i think “fixed” is wrong to say; i would bet Todd’s instructions/thinking “first race back, don’t squeeze the lemon, May is the target” and we might see a much better effort in next; but the price was crazy short, suckers who bet that.
That race was the biggest fix on the whole derby trail, fierceness ran against nothing, stalked a crawling pace and was asked nothing of him in deep stretch. Clearly pletcher used this race which that intention of targeting the Florida Derby at a price that him and his owner pals could load up and make a killing, the odds in this race were right, he towered over this crap field, even money on him in the Florida Derby was an absolute gift against that lousy field
Handicappers need to remember these are just babies at this point barely older than 2 years old and should approach these races as though they are two year old races
Domestic product was the best horse in the race. The winner had a very easy lead on a slow pace. Domestic product was wrangled back and trapped on the rail then got shuffled back a little bit on the turn when the front end quickened, he made a good strong move, but the leader had too much left, because the pace was dawdling.
Agree 100% .. He even had trouble coming out of the gate . Closed into a race with no pace. This horse will only be better next out . One I ll keep track of
@@ivanboesky1520 Thats exactly why I m impressed . I love seeing a closer who gets no pace close well and it s an angle I ve done very well on, Red Route One ,Tapwrit Big Truck all were horses who I ve won big with on using this angle. I m not sure he ll be a great horse but the potentials there and thats about all I can ask for..
I agree 😊 Sierra Leone has a lot more supporters internationally. I like Chasing Freedom & Honor Marie also, I'll throw in Fierceness in an exacta box 😅 just in case.
Hades danced with this field on the front end and took them gate to wire. Fierceness got raced out of his shoes and finished third. Can you say overated? 🏇😅👌
Hades had Fierceness measured every step of the way. the race caller is funny...saying that Fierceness isn't yet out of second gear...Fierceness was in full gear and not going to pass the leader. These race callers are comical. The second place horse is one I would keep an eye on. Fierceness is a miler at best.
My horse was awful.....no excuse... hindsight is always 20 20 when it comes to racing... but a horse coming off a layoff at a ridiculous short price is always one I will try to beat...I tried but picked the wrong one.. fierceness will move forward off this one.cant say I was overly impressed with the race or the field in general...if you had the winner...way to go... plenty of races to come....
Did you see that? Fierceness 1/5 got abliterated. Beat Muth by 9. Lost his race before that by 33 in the race before the 😢Muth race. (Breeders Cup). Next Patient please
Pletcher said Fieceness start was poor and couldn’t get into the flow of the race? I’ve seen way worse starts than that and seemed like he got right up there, just fell flatter than a pancake, wish he would of finished fourth
weak excuse; “couldn’t get into the flow” just say he didn’t run well.Pletcher can be so conservative, that when finally asks talent to go in May, they’re not ready, his underachievements in TCR’s are ridiculous, but he does well with 3’s after June (i think) and the 4Yo’s. Has a big barn. Johnny V on his own would’ve pushed that colt, Todd gave him specific instructions to save him, i would bet. And that’s a shame for racing. We’ll never know the truth.
Well thankfully Fierceness wont have to meet Nysos at the Derby. The way he just won the Robert B Lewis by 7😮 We could be robbed of another Triple Crown winner. As long as he stays sound, no one will catch this colt.
Not really . Todd dominates preps . Most all time in Florida derbies , Blue grass stakes , and Arkansas derby. Also I believe Louisiana derby. This was shocking
Gorgeous run by winner, the ending was so graceful. He got a burst of energy to tear the final stretch up.
i think “fixed” is wrong to say; i would bet Todd’s instructions/thinking “first race back, don’t squeeze the lemon, May is the target” and we might see a much better effort in next; but the price was crazy short, suckers who bet that.
He’s the 2 year old champ he’s supposed to be heavy fav, first time at a racetrack
Definitely fxd
That race was the biggest fix on the whole derby trail, fierceness ran against nothing, stalked a crawling pace and was asked nothing of him in deep stretch. Clearly pletcher used this race which that intention of targeting the Florida Derby at a price that him and his owner pals could load up and make a killing, the odds in this race were right, he towered over this crap field, even money on him in the Florida Derby was an absolute gift against that lousy field
@@FrankCarolei-lv6rbFirst back of a long layoff is not the time to back a 1:5.
Race Call:
Pete Ailello
Thank you
Thats a big 2 yr old! Hades. Beauty stride.
These are all 3 year olds
Handicappers need to remember these are just babies at this point barely older than 2 years old and should approach these races as though they are two year old races
Thanks Captain Obvious. 😀
Love your username! He’s my favorite. First Derby ever
Domestic product was the best horse in the race. The winner had a very easy lead on a slow pace. Domestic product was wrangled back and trapped on the rail then got shuffled back a little bit on the turn when the front end quickened, he made a good strong move, but the leader had too much left, because the pace was dawdling.
Domestic product seems to be another horse that can close in well. A lot of horses in this race had a bad start.
Agree 100% .. He even had trouble coming out of the gate . Closed into a race with no pace. This horse will only be better next out . One I ll keep track of
He closed into slow closing fractions. They went slow early and slow late in this race. Not an impressive prep at all.
@@ivanboesky1520 Thats exactly why I m impressed . I love seeing a closer who gets no pace close well and it s an angle I ve done very well on, Red Route One ,Tapwrit Big Truck all were horses who I ve won big with on using this angle. I m not sure he ll be a great horse but the potentials there and thats about all I can ask for..
@@ivanboesky1520 He did the same thing today ,the horse can run all day and the longer the race the better ..He s a good one..
Always grateful for the horses running and finishing.
Looked good winning the TB Derby .He s a badass
Dear lord those fractions were glacial watching after fierceness was made the derby favorite
Nobody is talking about Domestic Product yet.... now getting Irad Ortiz in the saddle. He's my pick for the Derby on Saturday!
20/20 hindsight is that this reality of grieve has happened
Nice run.
The Holly Bull was the best prep race in the last few weeks , very impressed !
@2009jadeorchid " not the best prep." Buddyo
Slow opening quarter...
LOL
Watch the Risen Star....NO PACE and Sierra Leone breezed past em
Fierceness Ran 2 HUGE Races and 2 CLUNKERS...Very Difficult Horse to Trust
Jocks hands were flying down the back stretch never got the horse relaxed too confident in tote board
I agree 😊 Sierra Leone has a lot more supporters internationally. I like Chasing Freedom & Honor Marie also, I'll throw in Fierceness in an exacta box 😅 just in case.
Great race
6 impressed me ,he ran on and was bummed earliy. There was no speed at all. The 1 had a dream trip and is a nice horse ..
Otello took a DUMP
One more victory. Fierceness
look how loose he had hades reins...lol he let him have his head and turned him loose!!!!
Hades danced with this field on the front end and took them gate to wire. Fierceness got raced out of his shoes and finished third. Can you say overated? 🏇😅👌
Indeed, Hades seems like a badass.
Hades has that smooth running , many others have the choppy gait and lose energy on pounding the dirt .
Meanwhile in the FL derby Fierceness destroyed the field
Did you see Fierceness win the Florida Derby by the largest margin ever? Maybe not overrated but under restraint.
Hades had Fierceness measured every step of the way. the race caller is funny...saying that Fierceness isn't yet out of second gear...Fierceness was in full gear and not going to pass the leader. These race callers are comical. The second place horse is one I would keep an eye on. Fierceness is a miler at best.
Great fighting finish!
Fierceness top contender to win Kentucky Derby
my horse
That horse is small and can’t mix it up physically and win. If he doesn’t have a perfect break in the derby it’s over.
Hade / deterministic /just a touch / siera leone/ dornoch / freedom /box
First quarter won the race !
Fierceness should be Fiercerat
Heck its pouring down cats and dogs in California 😢 at least you got racing. Today. In Florida & New York
What is the track surface , dirt or synthetic, looks grey like synthetic.
dirt. the inner is synthetic
He was empty; he finished third 😁
Fierceness will rebound in Derby . John Velazquez likes to win those couple million dollar races.
Not big on time but those splits were extremely slow.
My horse was awful.....no excuse... hindsight is always 20 20 when it comes to racing... but a horse coming off a layoff at a ridiculous short price is always one I will try to beat...I tried but picked the wrong one.. fierceness will move forward off this one.cant say I was overly impressed with the race or the field in general...if you had the winner...way to go... plenty of races to come....
Those fractions are t going to scare anyone.
Fireceness had the lead, but couldn't maintain.
Great race!
Hades , he's a God
Did you see that? Fierceness 1/5 got abliterated. Beat Muth by 9.
Lost his race before that by 33 in the race before the 😢Muth race.
(Breeders Cup). Next Patient please
Pletcher said Fieceness start was poor and couldn’t get into the flow of the race? I’ve seen way worse starts than that and seemed like he got right up there, just fell flatter than a pancake, wish he would of finished fourth
weak excuse; “couldn’t get into the flow” just say he didn’t run well.Pletcher can be so conservative, that when finally asks talent to go in May, they’re not ready, his underachievements in TCR’s are ridiculous, but he does well with 3’s after June (i think) and the 4Yo’s. Has a big barn. Johnny V on his own would’ve pushed that colt, Todd gave him specific instructions to save him, i would bet. And that’s a shame for racing. We’ll never know the truth.
@@carlmack2188 Guess people in the know make a lot of dough when the heavy favorite runs slow.
Jockey didn't ride fierceness right for sure bs
Bad ride on the favorite
Pull the horse
Really now...
All of them slow!
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Well thankfully Fierceness wont have to meet Nysos at the Derby.
The way he just won the Robert B Lewis by 7😮
We could be robbed of another Triple Crown winner. As long as he stays sound, no one will catch this colt.
Nysos is ineligible for the Derby
@@user-hw2wt4qf2j yes that's why I said they won't meet at the Derby
Nysos beat nobody and fierceness is heavily overrated
@@stupiddog7314 time will tell.
@@stupiddog7314 there's only two ways to win and millions ways to get beat.
Typical Pletcher trained horse
Not really . Todd dominates preps . Most all time in Florida derbies , Blue grass stakes , and Arkansas derby. Also I believe Louisiana derby. This was shocking
johnny v was prob paid off
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Slow race, slow horses. None are Derby threats. 😀
Fixed race, Johnny V never took the lead on a slow pace.... c'mon
Put irad ortiz jr back on fierceness
Oh please
@@eddie7151yeah put that cheater on this horse, Rapole will love that, that’s the only way they will win, just like Forte.
You must have voted for Trump too.
That was fixed too , right ? Lol
@@larrywheels762 Come on, Hilary, give it up. :-)