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@@blazingmytrail1962 I would argue that the design is to make us soft which has allowed a lot to happen that too many are too afraid to have an opinion about.
Wishful thinking perhaps. I doubt it would significantly change anything. Unless there was an outright application of equality before the law without exception; exemption as a member of a minority [wider 'national' context] along cultural lines would over-ride any accusation of misogyny. The accuser would still be labelled a hater and face criminal investigation effectively acting as a tool of discouragement.
Why was this guy who pushed the man on to the rail tracks on our streets. I dont understand. Our streets are going to be full of these nutters. No law at all.
Because you're innocent until proven guilty?? You must have faith in the system and horse blinkers on if you think that miscarriages of justice arent a lot more commonplace than they tell you
@@Dan-nm5kxbut non- British citizens should have their legal fees paid for by a hypothecated tax on immigrants and neo-British... put pressure of then to control their own or vote for fewer of then to come
@@Dan-nm5kx I would point you towards the home office recent social media posts where they label all the 1000's of arrested in the recent rioting as criminals before any trials have taken place. This notion that we are innocent until proven guilty is a thing of the past. Under starmers gov this is no longer the case.
In Iraq a father spoke out against the person in charge, they shattered his daughters spine and she became paraplegic. In another modern progressive country in that part of the world a young girl complained to the police about her grandfather sexually assaulting her and the police took her straight back to her family. They buried her alive and built a chicken shed on top of her grave. They were found out but would they have been punished? One of my own female relatives was walking home from school in a town not far from London and a pupil of that school was stabbed to death as they walked. Another member of the family,a child,was asked for help by another school friend who had been raped in a takeaway toilet. The list of crimes against women goes on and on.
Yes. It reminds me of a case I heard about a few years ago. I think it was in a village in Pakistan. A young man was found Guilty of rape. His punishment was to HAVE HIS OWN SISTER GANG RAPED. The SUFFERING of women and girls in this world is beyond belief, and will continue to be so until we bring Jesus Christ back into the mix. Remember Him ? You without sin cast the first stone ?
And it will go on until the authorities wake up. Islam does not want to be part of MULTI CULTURALISM. It wants to be the ONLY 'culture' with everyone on the planet giving submission to it. It's called 'Ummah'. Read the Koran, Hadith and Sunnah.
Wow, way to understate what is actually EVIL and DELIBERATE! Do call VILE, EVIL ATROCITIES for what they are! If you get sucked in, by this vile criminal governments way of explaining away vile ATROCITIES, then you are as bad as they are!!
only white men are misogynistic that's who they will target hoping it will trickle down they really don't know what to do everything thing is two tier rules for some and rules for others.
In the eyes of the law we are all ‘Humans’. It matters not whether one ‘Human’ has ancestry in the U.K. going back 500 yrs or another ‘Human’ arrived this morning on a dinghy. Any crimes committed by a ‘Human’ from Afghanistan will be dealt with in the same way as a crime committed by an indigenous ‘Human’ , or at least we assumed that was that was the case until 2 Tier policing was finally recognised for what it is. The government (both Tory and now Labour) ascribe to globalist ideology and where one was born is immaterial and we, the British people just have to accept living next to Afghans or Roma. In fact the Labour Party have promised to make sure we all get a taste of diversity by moving asylum seekers to every town in England. So, as a German diversity festival mourned the death of 3 people stabbed and we mourners the murder of 3 little girls stabbed by an immigrant we are just meant to shut up, accept it or go to jail if we decide to object
The illegal crossings would stop tomorrow if they did not get accommodation, food etc and benefits so one must assume that the Government does not want to stop them.
Yes, it seems very significant that widespread, institutional misogyny, the sort embedded and given religious force, within certain communities seems not to fall within the scope of Cooper's proposals.
If they want to solve the illegal immigration they can easily do it. Leave ECHR, detain them all and keep them detained until either asylum is granted, they are deported or 'voluntarily' leaves the country.
The ECHR provides the UK with the _only_ protection for freedom of expression. Shows like this will be gone if we leave, and anything you say the state decides it doesn't like will result in your prosecution and potential imprisonment. When it comes to human rights the court does not make legally binding rulings, it makes recommendations, recommendations we can and should ignore. This is what both France and Italy routinely do.
@@saladinbob Recommendations you say? They didn't stop the Rwanda scheme? And if it is just recommendations, what human right freedoms are they actually protecting? Leaving ECHR is a must, having foreign courts meddling in national affairs is a no, no. UNHCR is bad enough, another layer of corrupt and unelected bureaucrats is not needed.
A few years ago I lived in a flat, one of four in the big house. There was a social tenant who had this habit of leaving the front door open and sitting on the step smoking and chatting with friends. The fireman once told me he couldn't get into her flat because she was a horder. So, as I was climbing over her to leave the house, I politely asked her not to leave the door open because it was the middle of winter and my flat was freezing. I walked down the road and this woman, grossly overweight, and covered in facial piercings, came running up to me and shoved me in a violent rage. My reaction was to say "Are you crazy, what are you doing?" . So, i've suffered from chronic anxiety and depression all my life and have taken antidepressants since I was 16. A couple hours later I received a call from the police who said they were considering charging me for a hate crime! The idea of going through life with a criminal record for a hate crime is not something I wanted because I have no hate whatsoever in my heart. .I've never been arrested. Even if I dislike religion or whatever, I always make the distinction between an ideology and the people who follow it. I don't hate any group of people, even those who have hurt others, or wronged me in some way, I wouldn't waste my time with being consumed by hatred. So, I was assaulted and yet here I was apologising profusely for using the word crazy in a way we do, not literally, when someone behaves a certain way. Nobody would think I was referring to her mental health issues which I didn't know anything about, how would I? I wasn't charged but it worries me that people are being called racist when they don't like the misogyny or homophobia found in the Islamic teachings or expressing concern over immigration. All we have is our name, our reputation. It's shocking how freely you can be called hateful, racist, or a even a pedophile. A school friend had a girlfriend a year or two younger when I was a teenager and I saw a newspaper article calling him a pedophile! I felt so sorry for him, I knew him when I was 4 years old and to see someone destroy his name was unfair and we need to be careful with stretching the meaning of such words as racist, pedophile, etc.
Has anyone really investigated the vested interests that profit from illegal immigration in the UK? Profits made by the security companies who guard hotels and other facilities? The hotel chains that agree to house illegals? Obviously the pro migrant UK based charities are part of the picture .How many more directly benefit financially from this ever growing sector of money spinning ?Has anyone ever really dug into it to expose it? Thanks so much for discussing these topics openly and fearlessly .Id also point you in the direction of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's study of European trends that reveal how women are being pushed out (intimidated) in many public spaces.
I saw a post the day on the groups that are running these hotel and house grabs and all the others involved on the side lines. Also it stated that the Home office has not monitored this at all. Billions not being checked.
@@jebjeb1498 I agree there is something missing in the overall debate. It's hard to see how the elite benefit unless it's cheap labour, and the downside of welfare dependency doesn't affect them personally.
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Steve Laws channel, if it still exists, has covered the entire topic.
We’ll survive. The Russians survived the gulags and the Chinese survived Mao. We’ll have some form of national identity crisis / PTSD, but we’ll carry on in some form or other
Just a thought; are some of these young migrants committing heinous crimes so they can get a prison sentence and remain in the UK this way? They’ll get three meals a day, a bed, and ‘rehabilitation’ with their own kind whilst there? Food for thought.
These Freeloaders see Prison as a Free B & B with free warm evening meals included, and warm shower. They don't need imprisoning but deporting!! And being rewarded, after committing heinous crimes of GBH, Stabbing & Rape! 🙈🙉
@@goodlookinouthomie1757a-man seemsto have committed an awful lot of crimes in the past. Many cases were committed by a-man… makes you wonder what killed of a-man is involved.
It seems very significant that widespread, institutional misogyny, the sort embedded and given religious force within certain communities seems not to fall within the scope of Cooper's proposals.
Elites will do anything to stay in power! Revolution usually has to occur -- Good-bye old elite! Hello new elite! Be careful what you wish/struggle for! 1789 France 1917 Russia 1933 Germany 1979 Iran
I don't like the word phobia regarding Islam, we're not afraid, we're just not in agreement. It's the clash of faith and values from a Christian country where people are forced to accept a belief of those who do not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them. It is inferior to the West, a logical fact, not a phobia 🤔.
It's like saying I'm rat-o-phobic because I don't want them living in my walls. When it's no more than a rational preference that everyone should share.
@gailpittilla3240. I totally agree. I won't and never do take part in these twisted games, where there is this attempt to use silly labels and accusations and constant wacko ideas, to try gain control of our morals and values! The wackos can fight it out amongst themselves, whilst they come up with more and more deranged ideas. I look forward to the day when they implode amongst themselves 😂
U do not have to return an Afgan immigrant to Afganistan. You need to return him to where he came from. They all come from France - return them to France. The French let them in and then offer the UK to deal with them
So they need to start by singing 'God save the King' wether it offends their sensibilities or not. The pandering to these people who are taken in to these shores must stop. I bet the Wokerati have dismissed that from the criteria, I bet!!!😮
Criminal incommers should not be allowed to plead a right to life in the UK because they are married. It is their own fault they shouldn't have committed crime.
I like twhe who initiative of British, I am Caucasian East European, and my ancestors defended the GB during the war. I'm embarrassed to see what is happening in Europe and te UK.
We need as a country to remember many thousands of non-British who helped us fight Nazis and others. In the fight for freedom. I thank all people who done their duty. 🎉 ❤
Of COURSE misogyny isn't the same as terrorism. About 30 seconds ago on the geological time-scale people would remark with a wry grin what a misogynist this or that curmudgeonly character was, typically some tweedy Oxford don, bachelor for life, cooped with his fellow misogynists over their pipes and brandy. And it was even endearing in its own way. They'd found their niche, preferred to be with men, not with women very much. Not hatred. Not abuse. Just a preference. Certainly not a crime. Free world, more power to 'em. And whether or not "misogyny" is that sort of innocuous preference or even, let's posit, a genuine, seething internal hatred (the primary victim of which is, obviously, the wretch himself), in ANY case it's a feeling, a thought, an internal state. Feelings ARE NOT CRIMES. People ARE allowed to hate. There's another word: hate. "We need to root out hate in our society!" So crow the perniciously power-lusting would-be tin gods obsessed with controlling not only what everybody does but what everybody thinks and feels. Until a feeling, ANY feeling, boils over into act, there's no question of its being criminal, let alone "terrorism" (please).
Human Rights protection. Thank you, Blair, for signing to this crap when you hoped to become President of the EU. Cherie quickly set up as a 'uman rights lawyer using his insight/foresight or as the financial world calls it ....insider trading.
@@fenlander7114 Knocking Blair does not make me a supporter of the Tories. They did a pi55 poor job of Brexit and we are still beholden to their human rights legislation. Neither party controls the UK, something which becomes more evident with each passing year. Currently Labour blame the Tories for a financial mess yet at the end of Brown's tenure left a note saying "There's no money left". I neither believe nor trust the majority of our political elite.
There is no real reason to leave the ECHR. It "was" an advisory decision until Tony Blair changed it to accept it as a final judgement. Just reverse that part of legislation. The real question is, why didn’t the Conservatives do anything about that simple change.
Philips is a feminist you know? Obviously not a feminist that objects to mass rape of young girls in Northern towns. Or a feminist who objects to the murder of young girls at a dance class but god help you if you wolf whistle a pretty girl in the street
What about extreme misandry? All this is, is an attempt to manipulate the word 'Terrorism' into a broader meaning to smear more of the opposition to their mentality.
Islam, a peaceful religion!!! How many Islamic countries are stable and peaceful ??? The primary objective since its inception is to convert the world to Islam by any means! God helps us! as the day of the Islamic Republic of Englistan is not too far. Amen
I Agree with the New Culture Forum presenters. I wouldn’t dare express my opinions online these days. Hey I’m a white British guy that flies a Union flag. I live in fear around where my house is.
You make the assumption that there’s any attempt here at humanitarian objectives. There isn’t. It is all about cementing assigned places on the oppressed /oppressor ladder. It WILL not address FGM or forced marriage or women’s rights generally if these are connected to the MALE demographic at the top of the victim ladder…. It is not designed to be cohesive or make much sense at all.
A very good conversation with a fine panel again, Peter. Your "Our history, culture and future" back drop an utterly brilliant " advert" for promoting common sense conversation.
observation: Starmer took some drastic measures that stopped protests overnight and policed the internet and the streets. the conservative ministers Patel and Braverman both claimed they want to stop the boats but they didn't because of legal issues. Why legal issues worked then but not now?
Misogyny is institutionalised in the 2nd most popular religion. If laws are brought in making misogyny illegal, will there have to be clauses included for exceptiions in this religion?
Not for us, no. It does not belong in Europe. But it is very successful, because they live by essential truths that we do not have the stomach to admit.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757slavery works too, there are many different sustainable ways for human society to be constructed and their incompatibility is why nations and border are required and why globalism can never work
Just wanted to thank you for speaking up for my children. I have four workin children who look full white and are suffering as a result of this change in the UK. I'm half Pakistani and can attest to the danger of my farther's backwards culture on Britain. It's destroying our country.
The British people have all the rights to decide who must live in their country.nobody can impose their dictats on them .what is the meaning of a sovereign country when outsiders are dumping barbarians into their country ?
Re bbc, I totally agree. Except it's definitely upper middle class, as opposed to middle class. Just consider the cost of living in London with no income. Parents' income would need to be £100k plus at minimum. Or have access to rent free properties... Family or friends. I have seen this in my own circle of friends.
Ms Patel et all are now all about context ie 350,000 from here (war) and half a million from there (Hong Kong) and another million from everywhere else (hospitality, hospital, care): context, not immigration. Incarcerating criminals - rapists, thieves - no prison places available. What madness.
Can someone please define "working class", I thought it was passé. If it's about money, no longer pertinent. If it's about accent, no longer pertinent. If its about job choice, no longer pertinent.
I'd say the main distinction today is between those who went to university (middle class) and those who didn't (working class). Even that distinction is vague at the edges, because the expansion of universities means that a degree from a bad one isn't worth much.
I don't think it's about university but I respect your opinion. Lots of people in Burke's and Debrettes peerage didn't go to university. I married into the peerage and I'm a law graduate. To me it should be about what a person wants to be nowadays with their own definition. But other people shouldn't impose their definition on them, in my opinion.
@@user-zu1id3yp2d I guess they'd be considered "upper class". I take it you’re questioning our old-fashioned conceptions of class, and how well they fit the modern world. I agree that they don’t really fit any more. We no longer have much of an industrial proletariat, for instance, just as we no longer have much of a rural farm labourer population. Having said that, it still feels like there are real class differences. We’re not just an undifferentiated human mass. So what are the important distinctions?
Working class in England refers to people that don't have degrees within their family and do not work in professional office jobs at banks or law firms or similar. They do the manual labour jobs or drive taxi etc but many of them have worked so hard they are now considered almost middle class and their children will get a degree and could become middle class. My dad and mum were working class but my sister and me are middle class.
Catch them, sentence them to 30yrs in a nasty prison then ask them whether they would rather go to jail or go home. If they return let them know they will serve the sentence.
Credentialism has feminized news reporting and the media. Formerly, you learned on the job. Reporters were therefore skeptical of middle and upper class pretensions, for instance. Today, though, you go to journalism school or film school - which not only, as Mr Kiszely pointed out, filters out the working class, but also men. Hollywood films in general and Disney in particular are the very definition of 'Extreme Misandry.' Kind of doubt that Yvette's going to take them to court, though.🤨🤨🤨
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Yes, there's far more misandry than misogyny. Just look at TV commercials. Men (especially white men) are always portrayed as idiots.
Surely this gov is stopping everybodies right to question it, that is the whole idea of being democratic, the right to question the gov is our right, disgusted with the judge who used this as one of the reason to jail someone, that shows the gov even has destroyed the independence of the police and the judiciary.
Excellent remarks on the working class within the TV industry. Thank you NCF. Maybe we need a new tv company to produce some counter-cultural working class drama's...NCF, fancy turning your talents this way?
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That new TV company won't attract many advertisers.
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Well you know, violence against women on trains ... Emma West, Jacqueline Woodhouse nada nada.
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Please help us understand why Starmer wants to keep violent criminals on our streets, is it to bring in Martial law later on?
That is most likely. Will be called lockdown though, For your protection.
To me as a foreigner he seems like a wannabe Austrian painter. Maybe he wants them as an army to terrorise you British.
seems like dosn't it.
Yeah, it's part of the communism playbook, break down of community so people demand something done, martial law.
UK is finished.
Starmer is a pillock thats why
If you overstay a visa in Indonesia, you'll be immediately locked up and then CHARGED £30 for every day you have overstayed
Yes, there are really countries who know how to handle. We as western countries are too soft.
thats a well run country, uk is a toilet
Slur Kneel Scammer has overstayed and outlived his welcome, fine him and deport him.
@@ankavoskuilen1725it’s not about being soft… it’s by design.
@@blazingmytrail1962 I would argue that the design is to make us soft which has allowed a lot to happen that too many are too afraid to have an opinion about.
If extreme misogyny were an imprisonable offence, nearly every mislim male would be in prison.
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Not a chance!
Back in the real world yes. Not this woke one.
Wishful thinking perhaps. I doubt it would significantly change anything. Unless there was an outright application of equality before the law without exception; exemption as a member of a minority [wider 'national' context] along cultural lines would over-ride any accusation of misogyny. The accuser would still be labelled a hater and face criminal investigation effectively acting as a tool of discouragement.
@@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 Sad but very likely true.
Thank you to all at the New Culture Forum. You help to keep us hopeful and courageous. 🇬🇧
Unfortunately, there appears to be less and less hope with each new video.
Why was this guy who pushed the man on to the rail tracks on our streets. I dont understand. Our streets are going to be full of these nutters. No law at all.
Once you understand that it is policy and they hate us and want to destroy us, it all makes perfect sense.
Police to busy locking up the natives and mothers for mean tweets about kid killers.
Because black lives matter
Hmm, maybe it will end up with ‘law of the street’ if the judiciary are unwilling to deal with the true scourge of the country.
@@sandrawhelan9159 carefull Sandra, that's mean txt and wrong think!
We need to stop giving criminals any right to legal aid...I cant get it, so why should they?
Stop with the WE , these people no longer care about you and your family . Both parties have ignored the will of the people for a decade .
Because you're innocent until proven guilty?? You must have faith in the system and horse blinkers on if you think that miscarriages of justice arent a lot more commonplace than they tell you
Whos this WE ?
@@Dan-nm5kxbut non- British citizens should have their legal fees paid for by a hypothecated tax on immigrants and neo-British... put pressure of then to control their own or vote for fewer of then to come
@@Dan-nm5kx I would point you towards the home office recent social media posts where they label all the 1000's of arrested in the recent rioting as criminals before any trials have taken place.
This notion that we are innocent until proven guilty is a thing of the past. Under starmers gov this is no longer the case.
God help us all with this awful shower in power.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
We live under a international oligarchy
In Iraq a father spoke out against the person in charge, they shattered his daughters spine and she became paraplegic. In another modern progressive country in that part of the world a young girl complained to the police about her grandfather sexually assaulting her and the police took her straight back to her family. They buried her alive and built a chicken shed on top of her grave. They were found out but would they have been punished? One of my own female relatives was walking home from school in a town not far from London and a pupil of that school was stabbed to death as they walked. Another member of the family,a child,was asked for help by another school friend who had been raped in a takeaway toilet. The list of crimes against women goes on and on.
Yes. It reminds me of a case I heard about a few years ago. I think it was in a village in Pakistan. A young man was found Guilty of rape. His punishment was to HAVE HIS OWN SISTER GANG RAPED. The SUFFERING of women and girls in this world is beyond belief, and will continue to be so until we bring Jesus Christ back into the mix.
Remember Him ? You without sin cast the first stone ?
This is terrible
Insanity. You all let them in !!!
And it will go on until the authorities wake up. Islam does not want to be part of MULTI CULTURALISM. It wants to be the ONLY 'culture' with everyone on the planet giving submission to it. It's called 'Ummah'. Read the Koran, Hadith and Sunnah.
But where are all the feminists ?🤡🤡🤡
Surely all the attacks on little girls, in theatres, on streets, in a dance class would be the definition of misogynistic terrorism, then?
You'd think but unfortunately not.
Wow, way to understate what is actually EVIL and DELIBERATE! Do call VILE, EVIL ATROCITIES for what they are!
If you get sucked in, by this vile criminal governments way of explaining away vile ATROCITIES, then you are as bad as they are!!
that a good description.
only white men are misogynistic that's who they will target hoping it will trickle down they really don't know what to do everything thing is two tier rules for some and rules for others.
We must not talk about it. Please don't arrest me.
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In the eyes of the law we are all ‘Humans’. It matters not whether one ‘Human’ has ancestry in the U.K. going back 500 yrs or another ‘Human’ arrived this morning on a dinghy. Any crimes committed by a ‘Human’ from Afghanistan will be dealt with in the same way as a crime committed by an indigenous ‘Human’ , or at least we assumed that was that was the case until 2 Tier policing was finally recognised for what it is.
The government (both Tory and now Labour) ascribe to globalist ideology and where one was born is immaterial and we, the British people just have to accept living next to Afghans or Roma.
In fact the Labour Party have promised to make sure we all get a taste of diversity by moving asylum seekers to every town in England.
So, as a German diversity festival mourned the death of 3 people stabbed and we mourners the murder of 3 little girls stabbed by an immigrant we are just meant to shut up, accept it or go to jail if we decide to object
Well said.
The illegal crossings would stop tomorrow if they did not get accommodation, food etc and benefits so one must assume that the Government does not want to stop them.
why our Royal Navy is not patrolling the territorial waters ?
@@monacoprince398 The RNLI is and they are assisting the migrants to get to shore.
"""Is misogyny terrorism...?""
well...today, it depends...
if it's done by Islam it's a cultural thing...
Tommy Tommy spread the name more and more. Best wishes
Exactly, they're scared to target islam directly but this type of law is clearly targeted towards Muslim men. Bring it on.
Yes, it seems very significant that widespread, institutional misogyny, the sort embedded and given religious force, within certain communities seems not to fall within the scope of Cooper's proposals.
Why did Tommy then support Andrew Tate in his trafficking scandal hey?
@@user-db5hhbdid he? How so?
If they want to solve the illegal immigration they can easily do it. Leave ECHR, detain them all and keep them detained until either asylum is granted, they are deported or 'voluntarily' leaves the country.
Nort reallly, because the goverment don't want to do it. They have potentially supporter from next generation of boat people. They are pure evil.
The government could just ignore the human rights act like they do to British born people.
The ECHR provides the UK with the _only_ protection for freedom of expression. Shows like this will be gone if we leave, and anything you say the state decides it doesn't like will result in your prosecution and potential imprisonment. When it comes to human rights the court does not make legally binding rulings, it makes recommendations, recommendations we can and should ignore. This is what both France and Italy routinely do.
@@saladinbob Recommendations you say? They didn't stop the Rwanda scheme? And if it is just recommendations, what human right freedoms are they actually protecting? Leaving ECHR is a must, having foreign courts meddling in national affairs is a no, no. UNHCR is bad enough, another layer of corrupt and unelected bureaucrats is not needed.
Every international agreement must be put to national referendum and a proper fit for purpose written constitution is also required.
If one has concerns about Kier Stalins policies he declares them not legitimate concerns. So we cannot win with him in place.
Amy’s reason for not including authentic working-class characters in BBC dramas is excellent, spot on & in every word true.✔️👏🏻
A few years ago I lived in a flat, one of four in the big house. There was a social tenant who had this habit of leaving the front door open and sitting on the step smoking and chatting with friends. The fireman once told me he couldn't get into her flat because she was a horder. So, as I was climbing over her to leave the house, I politely asked her not to leave the door open because it was the middle of winter and my flat was freezing. I walked down the road and this woman, grossly overweight, and covered in facial piercings, came running up to me and shoved me in a violent rage. My reaction was to say "Are you crazy, what are you doing?" . So, i've suffered from chronic anxiety and depression all my life and have taken antidepressants since I was 16. A couple hours later I received a call from the police who said they were considering charging me for a hate crime! The idea of going through life with a criminal record for a hate crime is not something I wanted because I have no hate whatsoever in my heart. .I've never been arrested. Even if I dislike religion or whatever, I always make the distinction between an ideology and the people who follow it. I don't hate any group of people, even those who have hurt others, or wronged me in some way, I wouldn't waste my time with being consumed by hatred. So, I was assaulted and yet here I was apologising profusely for using the word crazy in a way we do, not literally, when someone behaves a certain way. Nobody would think I was referring to her mental health issues which I didn't know anything about, how would I? I wasn't charged but it worries me that people are being called racist when they don't like the misogyny or homophobia found in the Islamic teachings or expressing concern over immigration. All we have is our name, our reputation. It's shocking how freely you can be called hateful, racist, or a even a pedophile. A school friend had a girlfriend a year or two younger when I was a teenager and I saw a newspaper article calling him a pedophile! I felt so sorry for him, I knew him when I was 4 years old and to see someone destroy his name was unfair and we need to be careful with stretching the meaning of such words as racist, pedophile, etc.
Has anyone really investigated the vested interests that profit from illegal immigration in the UK? Profits made by the security companies who guard hotels and other facilities? The hotel chains that agree to house illegals? Obviously the pro migrant UK based charities are part of the picture .How many more directly benefit financially from this ever growing sector of money spinning ?Has anyone ever really dug into it to expose it?
Thanks so much for discussing these topics openly and fearlessly .Id also point you in the direction of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's study of European trends that reveal how women are being pushed out (intimidated) in many public spaces.
I saw a post the day on the groups that are running these hotel and house grabs and all the others involved on the side lines. Also it stated that the Home office has not monitored this at all. Billions not being checked.
@@jebjeb1498 I agree there is something missing in the overall debate. It's hard to see how the elite benefit unless it's cheap labour, and the downside of welfare dependency doesn't affect them personally.
Steve Laws channel, if it still exists, has covered the entire topic.
thank you.
How can we cope with 5 year's more
of this Government 😮😮
Tommy Robinson is our friend.
We can’t
We’ll survive. The Russians survived the gulags and the Chinese survived Mao. We’ll have some form of national identity crisis / PTSD, but we’ll carry on in some form or other
We shouldn't have voted them in
Set up a vote of No Confidence in which only up--to-date tax paying British passport holders can participate
Just a thought; are some of these young migrants committing heinous crimes so they can get a prison sentence and remain in the UK this way? They’ll get three meals a day, a bed, and ‘rehabilitation’ with their own kind whilst there? Food for thought.
No, it's just the nature of the beast. Most of them are incapable of the type of long term planning you describe.
Yea I've had that thought.
It's been proven that some do, they've admitted it
They get most of that anyway under the benefit schemes.
These Freeloaders see Prison as a Free B & B with free warm evening meals included, and warm shower. They don't need imprisoning but deporting!! And being rewarded, after committing heinous crimes of GBH, Stabbing & Rape! 🙈🙉
I fear a huge financial collapse.
100% then shit will definitely the fan...the debt bubble is set to burst in the UK and the US, hold on tight everyone.
The actual collapse occurred in 2008, QE hyperinflation has kept the illusion of monetary value alive since then.
That would actually give us a chance to change the political paradigm
@@JohnCannon-ec3cj they can probably keep it going for some while. Particularly with UBI
Ohhh, it’s coming…! Buy gold 😊
Three people killed in Germany
By "a man".
@@goodlookinouthomie1757By a man? Mostly it is done by a 'person' nowadays. They don't want to 'misgender'.
@goodlookinouthomie1757 If you happen to spot 'a man' then do not approach him, he could be armed and dangerous.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757a-man seemsto have committed an awful lot of crimes in the past. Many cases were committed by a-man… makes you wonder what killed of a-man is involved.
Just deport them better still our border force should be pushing the boats back not acting like a taxi service.
It seems very significant that widespread, institutional misogyny, the sort embedded and given religious force within certain communities seems not to fall within the scope of Cooper's proposals.
It’s coopers greacy Phillips embodied feminist misandry
What is the legitimate legal democratic process to rectify a Monarch and government against their own people?
Elites will do anything
to stay in power!
Revolution usually
has to occur --
Good-bye old elite!
Hello new elite!
Be careful what you
wish/struggle for!
1789 France
1917 Russia
1933 Germany
1979 Iran
I don't like the word phobia regarding Islam, we're not afraid, we're just not in agreement. It's the clash of faith and values from a Christian country where people are forced to accept a belief of those who do not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them. It is inferior to the West, a logical fact, not a phobia 🤔.
It's like saying I'm rat-o-phobic because I don't want them living in my walls. When it's no more than a rational preference that everyone should share.
@gailpittilla3240.
I totally agree. I won't and never do take part in these twisted games, where there is this attempt to use silly labels and accusations and constant wacko ideas, to try gain control of our morals and values!
The wackos can fight it out amongst themselves, whilst they come up with more and more deranged ideas.
I look forward to the day when they implode amongst themselves 😂
I am afraid and everyone should be.
The Government: let's make misogyny a terrorist offence.
Also the Government: let's support Shariah for UK.
U do not have to return an Afgan immigrant to Afganistan. You need to return him to where he came from. They all come from France - return them to France. The French let them in and then offer the UK to deal with them
So they need to start by singing 'God save the King' wether it offends their sensibilities or not. The pandering to these people who are taken in to these shores must stop. I bet the Wokerati have dismissed that from the criteria, I bet!!!😮
Criminal incommers should not be allowed to plead a right to life in the UK because they are married. It is their own fault they shouldn't have committed crime.
They can , but they won’t .
I like twhe who initiative of British, I am Caucasian East European, and my ancestors defended the GB during the war. I'm embarrassed to see what is happening in Europe and te UK.
We need as a country to remember many thousands of non-British who helped us fight Nazis and others. In the fight for freedom. I thank all people who done their duty. 🎉 ❤
Zero tolerance is the answer
Because criminals protect other criminals!!!⚔️💪🏻🏴🇮🇪
Would you not say that female genital mutilation was a crime against women?
And circumcision is a crime against men.
Love the new look Peter Whittle. 👍
Of COURSE misogyny isn't the same as terrorism. About 30 seconds ago on the geological time-scale people would remark with a wry grin what a misogynist this or that curmudgeonly character was, typically some tweedy Oxford don, bachelor for life, cooped with his fellow misogynists over their pipes and brandy. And it was even endearing in its own way. They'd found their niche, preferred to be with men, not with women very much. Not hatred. Not abuse. Just a preference. Certainly not a crime. Free world, more power to 'em. And whether or not "misogyny" is that sort of innocuous preference or even, let's posit, a genuine, seething internal hatred (the primary victim of which is, obviously, the wretch himself), in ANY case it's a feeling, a thought, an internal state. Feelings ARE NOT CRIMES. People ARE allowed to hate. There's another word: hate. "We need to root out hate in our society!" So crow the perniciously power-lusting would-be tin gods obsessed with controlling not only what everybody does but what everybody thinks and feels. Until a feeling, ANY feeling, boils over into act, there's no question of its being criminal, let alone "terrorism" (please).
They hate misogyny but import men from country's that practice it.
The British taxpayer subsidises polygamy in Britain. Why?
Not to mention all the progeny that are produced by these unions Unions,I might add, that are ILLEGAL in this OUR country
I didn't like the set when it was first unveiled. But now you've put up these signs and changed the lighting it looks great!
Great show guys , really interesting conversation.
Human Rights protection. Thank you, Blair, for signing to this crap when you hoped to become President of the EU. Cherie quickly set up as a 'uman rights lawyer using his insight/foresight or as the financial world calls it ....insider trading.
And the so-called Tories had 14 years to repeal that law and never did, think about that…
@@johnhill7889 yes, money for old rope!
@@fenlander7114 Knocking Blair does not make me a supporter of the Tories. They did a pi55 poor job of Brexit and we are still beholden to their human rights legislation. Neither party controls the UK, something which becomes more evident with each passing year. Currently Labour blame the Tories for a financial mess yet at the end of Brown's tenure left a note saying "There's no money left". I neither believe nor trust the majority of our political elite.
I will never understand why they can't just TURN THE BOATS AROUND in the first place!!!! It's really not rocket science. 🙄
Best program of the week. Thank you all so much. I thoroughly enjoy such intelligent and thought provoking discussion
Yes agree it was an interesting intelligent conversation.
Everyone should have the RIGHT to carry a firearm. Basic human right. WHO gave Them the right to take our self defence away from us?
We'd be in big trouble if all the Moose-limbs had guns.
There is no real reason to leave the ECHR. It "was" an advisory decision until Tony Blair changed it to accept it as a final judgement. Just reverse that part of legislation. The real question is, why didn’t the Conservatives do anything about that simple change.
They lost me when they invoked the term patriarchal. They've already surrendered to Labor.
Little hope of stopping the rot, alas. We have passed the point of no return.
This is disastrous, we are heading down a dangerous road
Thank you NCF for all that you do .
Great program, thank you 🇬🇧👍
I like the ‘tagline’; ‘Our History, Our Culture, Our Future’.
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How on earth can they introduce a misogyny law without giving an exemption to Islam?
It's only the misogyny by their definition. Amy gave good examples from what they will leave out.
Easy, they employ two tier policing.
Of course there will be exemptions. This has NOTHING to do with any broad humanitarian objectives.
I should be completely free to be a misogynist if I want to.
Do you have mummy issues
@@sandrawhelan9159 I have a free mind. I can hate whoever I want.
Ask an expert like Jess Philips
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Philips is a feminist you know?
Obviously not a feminist that objects to mass rape of young girls in Northern towns.
Or a feminist who objects to the murder of young girls at a dance class but god help you if you wolf whistle a pretty girl in the street
What about extreme misandry? All this is, is an attempt to manipulate the word 'Terrorism' into a broader meaning to smear more of the opposition to their mentality.
Love the new signs!
Islam, a peaceful religion!!! How many Islamic countries are stable and peaceful ??? The primary objective since its inception is to convert the world to Islam by any means! God helps us! as the day of the Islamic Republic of Englistan is not too far. Amen
I Agree with the New Culture Forum presenters. I wouldn’t dare express my opinions online these days.
Hey I’m a white British guy that flies a Union flag. I live in fear around where my house is.
Keep talking ,😊culture forum and we will keep listening.. 😊
Isn’t a misogyny crime sexist as it excludes misandry? Isn’t feminism the ideology as per the various feminist thinkers not extreme misandry.
You make the assumption that there’s any attempt here at humanitarian objectives. There isn’t. It is all about cementing assigned places on the oppressed /oppressor ladder. It WILL not address FGM or forced marriage or women’s rights generally if these are connected to the MALE demographic at the top of the victim ladder…. It is not designed to be cohesive or make much sense at all.
Terrorist misogyny expressed by grooming gangs also many recent stabbings.
I enjoy and believe in your mission. As member, I recommend your channel 100%.
Much appreciated!
More money for Serco.
A very good conversation with a fine panel again, Peter. Your "Our history, culture and future" back drop an utterly brilliant " advert" for promoting common sense conversation.
What about...............OUR HOME
Well done Peter and as always the people on the panel great content thanks 😊
Liking Peter’s haircut. 👍🏻 Streamlined and youthful.
I'm sick of hearing " smash the gangs " it means nothing !!
Stopping the boats is not racist
Stop and search is not racist
We have rows and rows of detention centres in the Irish countryside. Looking very much like army camps. Take note Britain.
Without doubt the extreme misogyny from certain quarters will be excused as 'mental health' or somesuch.
On my bus was an advert warning us about child exploitation!! And what to look for in your child!! I think that signifies how rampant it is!!
observation: Starmer took some drastic measures that stopped protests overnight and policed the internet and the streets. the conservative ministers Patel and Braverman both claimed they want to stop the boats but they didn't because of legal issues. Why legal issues worked then but not now?
ALL THE PANELS SPOT ON 😊
Shut our borders, Build new Prisons or even just 1 Super max Prison AND Get us out of the ECHR
Misogyny is institutionalised in the 2nd most popular religion. If laws are brought in making misogyny illegal, will there have to be clauses included for exceptiions in this religion?
Well as some might say, that particular religion is right about women.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 This religion is not good.
Not for us, no. It does not belong in Europe. But it is very successful, because they live by essential truths that we do not have the stomach to admit.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757No, they live by conquering and intimidation. Watch world history, watch our present times.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757slavery works too, there are many different sustainable ways for human society to be constructed and their incompatibility is why nations and border are required and why globalism can never work
Just wanted to thank you for speaking up for my children. I have four workin children who look full white and are suffering as a result of this change in the UK. I'm half Pakistani and can attest to the danger of my farther's backwards culture on Britain. It's destroying our country.
Thank you NCC
The British people have all the rights to decide who must live in their country.nobody can impose their dictats on them .what is the meaning of a sovereign country when outsiders are dumping barbarians into their country ?
Woah Woah , you can't call them illegal, Sky news called them Irregular.
So it now is legal to invade a foreign country?
How about illegitimate?
Re bbc, I totally agree. Except it's definitely upper middle class, as opposed to middle class. Just consider the cost of living in London with no income. Parents' income would need to be £100k plus at minimum. Or have access to rent free properties... Family or friends. I have seen this in my own circle of friends.
Allowing 150,000 more asylim seekers permission to stay ..england soon will be no more.
I like the new set!
Criminals out
Ms Patel et all are now all about context ie 350,000 from here (war) and half a million from there (Hong Kong) and another million from everywhere else (hospitality, hospital, care): context, not immigration. Incarcerating criminals - rapists, thieves - no prison places available. What madness.
Can someone please define "working class", I thought it was passé. If it's about money, no longer pertinent. If it's about accent, no longer pertinent. If its about job choice, no longer pertinent.
I'd say the main distinction today is between those who went to university (middle class) and those who didn't (working class). Even that distinction is vague at the edges, because the expansion of universities means that a degree from a bad one isn't worth much.
It's everyone not in the bubble of liberal intelligentsia.
I don't think it's about university but I respect your opinion. Lots of people in Burke's and Debrettes peerage didn't go to university. I married into the peerage and I'm a law graduate. To me it should be about what a person wants to be nowadays with their own definition. But other people shouldn't impose their definition on them, in my opinion.
@@user-zu1id3yp2d I guess they'd be considered "upper class".
I take it you’re questioning our old-fashioned conceptions of class, and how well they fit the modern world. I agree that they don’t really fit any more. We no longer have much of an industrial proletariat, for instance, just as we no longer have much of a rural farm labourer population. Having said that, it still feels like there are real class differences. We’re not just an undifferentiated human mass. So what are the important distinctions?
Working class in England refers to people that don't have degrees within their family and do not work in professional office jobs at banks or law firms or similar. They do the manual labour jobs or drive taxi etc but many of them have worked so hard they are now considered almost middle class and their children will get a degree and could become middle class. My dad and mum were working class but my sister and me are middle class.
But the numbers of legal migrants will still be massive? We need all inward migration reducing dramatically.
Catch them, sentence them to 30yrs in a nasty prison then ask them whether they would rather go to jail or go home. If they return let them know they will serve the sentence.
Credentialism has feminized news reporting and the media. Formerly, you learned on the job. Reporters were therefore skeptical of middle and upper class pretensions, for instance. Today, though, you go to journalism school or film school - which not only, as Mr Kiszely pointed out, filters out the working class, but also men. Hollywood films in general and Disney in particular are the very definition of 'Extreme Misandry.' Kind of doubt that Yvette's going to take them to court, though.🤨🤨🤨
Yes, there's far more misandry than misogyny. Just look at TV commercials. Men (especially white men) are always portrayed as idiots.
Surely this gov is stopping everybodies right to question it, that is the whole idea of being democratic, the right to question the gov is our right, disgusted with the judge who used this as one of the reason to jail someone, that shows the gov even has destroyed the independence of the police and the judiciary.
If its so hard to deport then easier is to just not let in. I know crazy idea 😅
What is to stop, "your friends," from using the camps for future classifications of "residents."
Excellent remarks on the working class within the TV industry. Thank you NCF. Maybe we need a new tv company to produce some counter-cultural working class drama's...NCF, fancy turning your talents this way?
That new TV company won't attract many advertisers.
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People need to realise they were born inside a company and not a country....
Ok Sovcit
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Companies house says otherwise 🤔 UK
@@Joey-t8x You've really fallen doen the rabbit hole. Put down the bong.
No !!!!!!
What about a referendum on whether we are in favour of racist rioting?
Love the new haircut Peter…👍
Dystopia approaches!!😮