One of my absolute favourite scenes! That perfect sparring dance rapidly transitioning between gentle concern, irritation, indignation, anger, full-blown wrath, hurt and anguish, followed by tender reconciliation is probably the best acted sequence in the entire series.
The only tiny bit of criticism I have for this otherwise superbly acted scene is the voiceover at the end. For me it falls flat when Jamie explicitly declares to viewers that he is in love with Claire. It's cringy. And utterly unnecessary. Did the producers have an urge to reassure the audience after the fight: "But that's okay, he still loves her"? If so, they poorly misjudged their audience, and broke one of the most important rules in cinema: "Show it, don't say it."
There was a reason for it. This was the first episode of the second part of season 1, which the producers and writers wanted narration from Jamie’s perspective. The episode began this way. And also picked up from his perspective in rescuing Claire from BJR (entering through the window etc). It makes better sense with the beginning narration.
Their acting and chemistry on screen is truly something else, especially since I'm rewatching some of their scenes for the first time in a long while. Some of the best acting I've ever seen honestly. I know Outlander isn't unpopular by any means, but man somehow it's still underrated.
@monicastricker3582 it kind of does, in this instance. Surrounded by a patriarchal and reproaching environment, it's impressive that he got into his skull that trying and remaining that way to his wife would never bring him what he found attractive about her in the first place. True, she also does go down routes that should make her pay more, but fair to lenient consequences always come to them.
@@monicastricker3582 it absolutely does. 23 is very young and this is his FIRST relationship after growing up not really seeing many healthy relationships. He panicked and reacted harshly but also self regulated which was impressive.
I am just watching it for the first time now, just into series 5 but already thinking about watching it again from the start. 😂 my husband joined in and now I’m having to watch at his pace. 😡
Okay so I come from a Scottish family, and I was watching this episode with my parents and all three of us looked at each other and my mom said "doesn't it sound like your grandparents fighting?"
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
Claire behaves like an infantile child the whole way through this scene, saying anything and everything to not take responsibility for her own actions. She lashing out and trying to hurt the man who saved her just to protect her own foolish pride. She has zero gratitude. It's a childish temper tantrum, and a proper man of the period probably would have just decided since she was going to act like a child to spank her.
What the fuck are you talking about? Men are still this way. Victim blaming is like the one thing men can agree on when it comes to women. And don’t start crying about, “not all men”…..it’s enough of them that you probably know several women that have gone through it. For evidence look at the responses you got from men. They think he was right.
I read this book when it first was published in the 90’s. Huge fan of the book series for years. I didn’t think any actors could ever portray Jamie and Claire….but, I was wrong. Sam and Catriona are just so perfect in these roles. So dedicated to the characters. It’s breathtaking to watch. This was a classic scene in the book and they just nailed it ❤
And this is why friends Outlander is a success, how Sam and Cait's portrayal of Jamie and Claire themselves so true to the story and to what a marriage goes through. Forgiven is the reason of the success of marriages. It was this scene that in the chemistry test that showed how good performers they are. Yes, they are not perfect but speak truth to the love that passes understanding. Season 8 the last waiting to see how it will end.
My friend turned me on to the book going on forty years ago and I was over the moon to find it had been made into a series. The books were utterly amazing and so was the series.
I feel like the people condemning Claire are oversimplifying her situation. I can understand how, from Jamie's perspective, she was wrong, but from her POV, she had just almost been raped and finally saw an opportunity to get back to her time period and took it. She's not wrong for trying to go home.
Why is it not listening? Like she said, he is not her boss. She isn't supposed to just passively listen and obey, she has her own mind about things. She should always listen to her own gut, right or wrong. Jaimie never listened to Claire, he always followed his own gut, but no one says he always caused trouble by not listening to her. Double standard. She was a brave, independent and strong woman, imo.
Two different centuries two different perspectives. What matters is how sorry they both were to have quarreled. Too bad about the 18 century spanking custom that drew them appart for so long. Luckily love prevailed❤
In the books, I really got sick of Claire's arrogance. She was constantly putting others in trouble because she thought she knew so much. She may have been savvy in the 1940's but not in Jamie's time. Then, she was dangerously and foolishly arrogant.
Whoosh….straight over your head. Claire ‘was’ a woman of her time, it wouldn’t have made any sense if she completely changed her personality & become some submissive housewife, & beyond boring as well, and there wouldn’t have been a story either. And Jaime loved Claire because she was different to the women from his time, that’s the whole point.
It was horrible time for anyone that seemed weak. Men or women. So such precaution were necessary. Loot at the scene, she went for a walk and look what happened.
She isn’t right. She should’ve stayed put. She should know she’s in the 1700s. Claire pissed me off, she should subdue to him. These are the times for back then and she needs to get aligned with it.
Actually it wasn't outside of her control at all I swear to god women have no sense of accountability, responsibilities or obligations. Actions have consequences do u think it was fair for Jamie to have been whipped on his back to near death for the crime of saving his sister from being gang raped by red coat soldiers do u think it's fair that these poor men were born during a bad time while she was born into a time when everyone got to enjoy the luxuries of civilized society do u think it's fair that the average lifespan for men in jamies time is no more then 30 years while women were never forced to fight back against the malevolent side of nature or the aggressive side of humanity because men volunteered themselves to be the disposable gender so that women didn't have to?
She was trying to get home from a completely crazy and dangerous situation. It is not HER fault the people around her were savages. They are responsible for their own behavior, and that savagery is what caused the situation, not Clair. Stop victim blaming. It's ugly.
@@ohana8535 So she should have respected his understanding and experience in a world she is unfamiliar with. Even now women cannot just go wandering around in some places without and escort.
@@useyournoodle100 So when you're thrown into one of those places by circumstance, with no belongings and no information, you would be expected to stay there and hide forever? Or would you try to get home?
I think he acts circles around her. She literally has two modes: raging bitch or hysterical. She had some potential up until season 2 and then just became awful to watch. Between her soap opera acting and the butchering of the story from the novels to push a feminist, man-hating agenda, and the addition of the horrible Brianna actress, so many of the fans of the books, like myself were out. This is my favorite book series, and she's just totally the wrong Claire. She's beautiful, but that's about it.
The only tiny bit of criticism I have for this otherwise superbly acted scene is the voiceover at the end. For me it falls flat when Jamie explicitly declares to viewers that he is in love with Claire. It's cringy. And utterly unnecessary. Did the producers have an urge to reassure the audience after the fight: "But that's okay, he still loves her"? If so, they poorly misjudged their audience, and broke one of the most important rules in cinema: "Show it, don't say it."
Yes! Let us remember she told him she took a walk and didn’t say where she had gone--to the stones! That is where she was captured! This was an iconic moment in the show and one of the best! The interplay between them was amazing! But I must say I really think she should have been kinder and more understanding toward Jamie! He took a lot from her and she was kinda like a bitch!🤔💙🤍
Look at the year this portion of the book took place. Please do not look at history a long time ago through today's list of rules. It really was life and death.
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
@@senluke it wasn't 'just a walk', she saw the stone circle and loves her husband (from her time) and attempted to return to him like a loyal partner would be expected to do. But also, if it's too dangerous in the woods, he should have brought her with him. He didn't have a good reason for leaving her there in the first place. And if that's not enough, you don't speak to someone you view as an equal like a misbehaving child. Fortunately, he learned better.
@@runningfromabear8354 And he had no idea about the stones at that point. From his point of view, with knowledge he had, he was 100% justified to be a mad. She told her to stay hidden, becuase the red coats could get her. She didint listen and red coats got her. Its not about control, its about not doing stupid things, and putting others in danger. Of course she was justified to do it, she tried ro get back to her own time, but he had no idea about that. With his knowledge he was right.
@@senluke no shit, but your wording implies 1. She was 100% wrong. 2. That his anger was justified, when he was the one to insist she stayed in the woods with the young guy after previous incidents exposed that the highlands weren't safe even alone with just him. Her "guard" walked off to take a crap. She was already alone whether she walked up to the stonehenge or standing right there. Jamie's anger wasn't justified.
They both wrong even in this time. Who goes for a walk in the woods in such a times and then gets angry cause he tried to protect you. But then who thinks someone would do something like this on purpose. In the end the essence of reasoning is all that needed to be said. Harsh times makes a harsh man especially when he wants to keep you safe. That's any male mind in any type of relationship with a woman.
He called her a foul mouthed b****, she called him a f****** Bast@rd.... I think they're even 😂 If you read the books the story is fantastic and so is their dynamic.
Did they not apologize to each other? Staying proud makes reconciliation very hard. This modern day victimhood/victim-shaming nonsense is why our society is becoming so screwed up. Everyone is owed… except possibly the man. Their bad behavior needs to be excused because of their identity. That is peak narcissism.
@@_Colie Understand her feelings? This isn't about her feelings. They are in very dangerous times where the enemy is constantly milling around. She knows this. Second, the men around him just had to risk their lives to rescue her. They aren't trying to die for her. From their viewpoint, if he can't control his wife, they will not stay loyal to him. I don't like how she was expected to obey him, but that's the world she's in. She needs to fall in line whether she likes it or not. It would be like me waking up in a country where the women are expected to wear burkas and me insisting on wearing a bikini when I know damn well that that will reflect poorly on me and whoever I'm staying with. I love Claire, but she was forever putting Jaime in a position where he was having to defend her and explain her to people. It got on my nerves.
Thank you. They are both the victims but at least he acknowledges what happened to her. She is just acting like she knows everything and showing no regard for the danger she put them all in. Imagine being in Ukraine right now and just "going for a walk". You'd be out your mind.
@@theapostaterunawayslave First, if she was the obeying time, the show would be a snooze. She's the heroine of this story and when she found an opportunity to return to her time, she took it. After she told him that she was from the future and was desperately trying to go back to Frank, he understood and was sorry for beating her. Glad she's not the obedient kind. Love her feistiness,
@@theapostaterunawayslave They're in a war. She's not responsible for the crimes of other soldiers. She's allowed to choose her own risks and make any attempt to go home that she can. She's not their mother or their babysitter or even a member of the community. Every single member of that group knows the marriage is a fraud at that point.
I love the Outlander book series!!! The only characters I like is Jamie, Young Ian, Marsali, Lord John and Murtagh. I don’t like Claire even in her older age or Brianna or Roger Lol I can go on. But Claire is annoying, even as she gets older but Jamie loves her so🤷🏽♀️
She got herself in trouble because she wouldn’t listen to him and she’s willful. She has no idea how to be part of a team. Then he saves her from a fate worse than death and she slaps him. Doesn’t say thanks or sorry. I don’t find it cute.
No, she got in trouble because she was trying to get back to her timeline. It’s not like she could discuss that with anyone or get his input on the matter… of course she’d have to escape on her own and disobey him to do so
I’m a woman but I stopped watching this show because of how much annoying and stubborn Claire was. I know they need to create drama to keep the show going but letting her playing feminist all the time refusing to listen to her husband and putting both of them in danger was infuriating. After he got raped because she refused to obey his commands and stay put I started to feel discussed by her character. She sucks 🤮
Would you also describe a man who thinks independently and does what he wants without consulting others as stubborn? Or would you call him decisive and assertive? I sense a double standard from you regarding the same behaviours from men and women...
It wasn't her fault that he got raped. He went off with the Watch and was captured. Randal wanted Jamie from the moment he saw him. He tried to have his way with him the first time Randal took him. Claire was at Lallybrock waiting for him to come back.
@@leoniep9231 Yes, I would if the book was written in the sense that Jaime was in a matriarchal society and was expected to obey Claire. For me, this isn't about feminism. This is about Claire being stupidly stubborn. Should she have to obey him? No. Were their expectations about men and women fucked up? Of course. However, she knows what this society is like and what's expected of her. This doesn't just affect her; it affects Jaime and his relationship with his men as well. They had to risk their lives to rescue her all because she was trying to get back to the stone. She should have stayed put. Of all people, she knows that the English are everywhere. If she had to marry Jaime for protection, talking a walk alone as a woman was peak stupidity.
Men at least have the sense to know what environment they are in and adapt. Claire was just annoying after years of refusing to recognize she is in 18th century Scotland and has put Jamie and too many in danger with her attitude and outbursts of feminism which is rooted in lack of accountability and selfishness.
Claire is REALLY annoying….. please tell me she loses her feminism shtick as the season goes on…. It’s almost unbearable to watch as she puts everything into danger and never seems to think things through. Especially when she was trying to save Jaime in Wentworth prison…. She thinks she is untouchable.
Claire was so annoying I stopped watching after like the 2nd or 3rd season. Can’t remember. The excessive whining and stubbornness is annoying af. She’s trying to be a feminist in 18th century Scotland
@@jakek4876 she went back to the present day and told frank to his face that she had an affair with James. Frank later read that she went back to james before he died in the car crash. She didn't even try hard enough to get back to Frank which is understandable; her and James have been through more hell so of course they're bond grew stronger.
@@thruthemotions In the context of real/present time, it would be but not 200 years before Frank was born and she had no idea that she would have ever been able to go back to her time. Moreover, she was pregnant and was 100% truthful about what happened to her. So no, it wasn't cheating.
At least he makes sure she’s okay before getting mad 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
One of my absolute favourite scenes! That perfect sparring dance rapidly transitioning between gentle concern, irritation, indignation, anger, full-blown wrath, hurt and anguish, followed by tender reconciliation is probably the best acted sequence in the entire series.
The only tiny bit of criticism I have for this otherwise superbly acted scene is the voiceover at the end. For me it falls flat when Jamie explicitly declares to viewers that he is in love with Claire. It's cringy. And utterly unnecessary. Did the producers have an urge to reassure the audience after the fight: "But that's okay, he still loves her"? If so, they poorly misjudged their audience, and broke one of the most important rules in cinema: "Show it, don't say it."
There was a reason for it. This was the first episode of the second part of season 1, which the producers and writers wanted narration from Jamie’s perspective. The episode began this way. And also picked up from his perspective in rescuing Claire from BJR (entering through the window etc). It makes better sense with the beginning narration.
And I think I also learnt that it was the audition scene both actors did
Their acting and chemistry on screen is truly something else, especially since I'm rewatching some of their scenes for the first time in a long while. Some of the best acting I've ever seen honestly. I know Outlander isn't unpopular by any means, but man somehow it's still underrated.
One of the few scenes were you are very much reminded that he's only like 23.
Age has nothing to do with it.
The character or the actor??
@@malxnt the character
@monicastricker3582 it kind of does, in this instance. Surrounded by a patriarchal and reproaching environment, it's impressive that he got into his skull that trying and remaining that way to his wife would never bring him what he found attractive about her in the first place.
True, she also does go down routes that should make her pay more, but fair to lenient consequences always come to them.
@@monicastricker3582 it absolutely does. 23 is very young and this is his FIRST relationship after growing up not really seeing many healthy relationships. He panicked and reacted harshly but also self regulated which was impressive.
Okay fine, I will rewatch all of outlander.
Same, about to start right now.
Lol
I am just watching it for the first time now, just into series 5 but already thinking about watching it again from the start. 😂 my husband joined in and now I’m having to watch at his pace. 😡
😂😂😂
Okay so I come from a Scottish family, and I was watching this episode with my parents and all three of us looked at each other and my mom said "doesn't it sound like your grandparents fighting?"
😂😉 ❤
I come from an English family...my grandparents used to fight the same way...they were the healthiest relationship I grew up with
I love how authentic this is. This was really the mindset of men back then. They were born in different times and different society values.
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
Claire behaves like an infantile child the whole way through this scene, saying anything and everything to not take responsibility for her own actions. She lashing out and trying to hurt the man who saved her just to protect her own foolish pride. She has zero gratitude. It's a childish temper tantrum, and a proper man of the period probably would have just decided since she was going to act like a child to spank her.
What the fuck are you talking about? Men are still this way. Victim blaming is like the one thing men can agree on when it comes to women. And don’t start crying about, “not all men”…..it’s enough of them that you probably know several women that have gone through it.
For evidence look at the responses you got from men. They think he was right.
I read this book when it first was published in the 90’s. Huge fan of the book series for years. I didn’t think any actors could ever portray Jamie and Claire….but, I was wrong. Sam and Catriona are just so perfect in these roles. So dedicated to the characters. It’s breathtaking to watch. This was a classic scene in the book and they just nailed it ❤
I think she realizes here just how she means to him.
Yes!! Right here she realizes how much he truly loves her. And it's squeezing at her heart here to see that she's tearing his right out.
And this is why friends Outlander is a success, how Sam and Cait's portrayal of Jamie and Claire themselves so true to the story and to what a marriage goes through. Forgiven is the reason of the success of marriages. It was this scene that in the chemistry test that showed how good performers they are. Yes, they are not perfect but speak truth to the love that passes understanding. Season 8 the last waiting to see how it will end.
Yeah, not all marriages go through man calling his wife a b* and reprimanding her for being captured...
Not like she could tell Jaime she was trying to go through the stones to return to her husband 200 years in the future. 🤷🏼♀️
I think she does eventually tell him...but he says "It would be easier if [she was] a witch"
She did, and it shows what kind of man Jamie is when he feels guilty about their conflict since she was trying to go back to Frank
My friend turned me on to the book going on forty years ago and I was over the moon to find it had been made into a series. The books were utterly amazing and so was the series.
The first was published 33 years ago. Don't make us older faster than we are already getting older. lol
The first book came out in "91.
I can’t get over how beautiful Caitriona is. She is so captivating
Forgiven.... And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you make 25 years of marriage work. Speaking from personal experience. Lovely scene!
😂😂 thanks
One of my favorite scenes! The acting is incredible.
They could've have picked any 2 but them for this Show. I love the connection they have and MORE. I LOVE THEM❤
Now I remember why I got hooked on this series.
So powerful...so real!! Gives me chills
I feel like the people condemning Claire are oversimplifying her situation. I can understand how, from Jamie's perspective, she was wrong, but from her POV, she had just almost been raped and finally saw an opportunity to get back to her time period and took it. She's not wrong for trying to go home.
I love this scene she always causes trouble not listening. She really made me mad treating him that way❤😢
Why is it not listening? Like she said, he is not her boss. She isn't supposed to just passively listen and obey, she has her own mind about things. She should always listen to her own gut, right or wrong. Jaimie never listened to Claire, he always followed his own gut, but no one says he always caused trouble by not listening to her. Double standard. She was a brave, independent and strong woman, imo.
Even now. If my husband told me to stay somewhere to be safe and i went for a walk. Oh he would be PISSED
Two different centuries two different perspectives.
What matters is how sorry they both were to have quarreled.
Too bad about the 18 century spanking custom that drew them appart for so long. Luckily love prevailed❤
In the books, I really got sick of Claire's arrogance. She was constantly putting others in trouble because she thought she knew so much. She may have been savvy in the 1940's but not in Jamie's time. Then, she was dangerously and foolishly arrogant.
I agree. She really do work a nerve in the books!
Whoosh….straight over your head. Claire ‘was’ a woman of her time, it wouldn’t have made any sense if she completely changed her personality & become some submissive housewife, & beyond boring as well, and there wouldn’t have been a story either.
And Jaime loved Claire because she was different to the women from his time, that’s the whole point.
@@bellabana and she still work a nerve ! Now what !
@@bellabanaSo she lacked sense, as befitting a woman of her time?
@@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 Seems like you have no idea what you're talking about. Missed the entire plot.
Dois grandes atores! Cena maravilhosa, totalmente emocional… Outlander❤ eu amo
This scene is so powerful
Love it.
I almost hated him at this moment! Horrible time for women!!!
I meant the the times!
@@terrynicoll5443are you seriously saying that it's not better for women in 2024 than it was in the 1700s??? Are you serious??
Probably so, but if you think this reflects on him poorly...
It was horrible time for anyone that seemed weak. Men or women. So such precaution were necessary. Loot at the scene, she went for a walk and look what happened.
@@Buzz0216 In many, many places in the world, and in some cultures living among us, it's still a terrible time to be a woman.
When I go to my friend's house and they argue with their parents in front of me
In awe of this acting
Muy buena interpretación son dos grandes actores ❤❤❤
Great acting!!!
She's right. :) The F audacity for having to apologise to the dude for things outside of her control. There are times, he rightly annoyed me haha!
She isn’t right. She should’ve stayed put. She should know she’s in the 1700s. Claire pissed me off, she should subdue to him. These are the times for back then and she needs to get aligned with it.
Nope. She was wrong.
@@soulserenade.kcn1992Oh please forgive her for wanting to go back in her time
Actually it wasn't outside of her control at all I swear to god women have no sense of accountability, responsibilities or obligations. Actions have consequences do u think it was fair for Jamie to have been whipped on his back to near death for the crime of saving his sister from being gang raped by red coat soldiers do u think it's fair that these poor men were born during a bad time while she was born into a time when everyone got to enjoy the luxuries of civilized society do u think it's fair that the average lifespan for men in jamies time is no more then 30 years while women were never forced to fight back against the malevolent side of nature or the aggressive side of humanity because men volunteered themselves to be the disposable gender so that women didn't have to?
@@soulserenade.kcn1992 I think you meant "submit" but it's ok we can still understand your character
Bottom line is, she disregarded her own safety and put everyone at risk, as a result.
She was trying to get home from a completely crazy and dangerous situation. It is not HER fault the people around her were savages. They are responsible for their own behavior, and that savagery is what caused the situation, not Clair. Stop victim blaming. It's ugly.
@@ohana8535 So she should have respected his understanding and experience in a world she is unfamiliar with. Even now women cannot just go wandering around in some places without and escort.
Ain't that the truth
@@useyournoodle100 So when you're thrown into one of those places by circumstance, with no belongings and no information, you would be expected to stay there and hide forever? Or would you try to get home?
@@useyournoodle100She was trying to get back to Frank. She saw an opportunity to get away and she took it. 🤷♂️
Wow! what a beautiful powerful scene!
llore con esta y muchas escenas mas😢😢
Ok.. I'll re-watch Outlander
😂🎉
Same 😂
Her acting here is a lot better than his here. Shes got the full range of expression thats needed for this scene.
Eu acho os dois impecáveis na entrega de atuação
I think close ups of her facial expressions are consistently better than his throughout the series, but his are still good
@@horsegirlb7120I agree they both have great acting. But hers seems so deeply expressed and real, so true to life.
Her acing range is phenomenal. He's just ok.
I think he acts circles around her. She literally has two modes: raging bitch or hysterical. She had some potential up until season 2 and then just became awful to watch. Between her soap opera acting and the butchering of the story from the novels to push a feminist, man-hating agenda, and the addition of the horrible Brianna actress, so many of the fans of the books, like myself were out. This is my favorite book series, and she's just totally the wrong Claire. She's beautiful, but that's about it.
Two warriors! ❤😮
The only tiny bit of criticism I have for this otherwise superbly acted scene is the voiceover at the end. For me it falls flat when Jamie explicitly declares to viewers that he is in love with Claire. It's cringy. And utterly unnecessary. Did the producers have an urge to reassure the audience after the fight: "But that's okay, he still loves her"? If so, they poorly misjudged their audience, and broke one of the most important rules in cinema: "Show it, don't say it."
Idc what anyone says I don’t blame her for trying to go home! I would have done the same!
Yes! Let us remember she told him she took a walk and didn’t say where she had gone--to the stones! That is where she was captured! This was an iconic moment in the show and one of the best! The interplay between them was amazing! But I must say I really think she should have been kinder and more understanding toward Jamie! He took a lot from her and she was kinda like a bitch!🤔💙🤍
Classic. Strong, independent women, who have their own minds and will, are ALWAYS seen as b*tches. What a shame to think that way.
Kaime burda bağırması kızması ağlaması çok güzel röl harika oynamış claire harika müthişler❤❤❤❤
Oh Last diese Serie nicht enden und wenn dann nur mit Happy end ich liebe sie alle so sehr habe nie was besseres gesehen ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
So glad I'm single. I belong only to myself.
Find your soul mate. Life is too beautiful not to share it with someone special. Good luck ❤
Look at the year this portion of the book took place.
Please do not look at history a long time ago through today's list of rules.
It really was life and death.
Love this 💙🦋
If I’m not mistaken they both were auditioning for the roles and had to take a test for this argument scene.
Самая любимая пара❤ и самый прекрасный сериал😍 очень жду последний сезон❤
Jamie don't fret brother, my wife's just a modern day Claire! IT will never change.
😂
I can argue and get undressed at the same time, by the time I'm really angry, we're both naked.
Depois que Clair entrou na vida de Jaime por todo amor a vida dele mudou para pior
Claire's actions put herself and the others in danger. She should show humility for what she did. She is in a world she doesn't understand yet continuously throws her weight around like she is in charge. All Jamie was trying to do was protect her because he knows the dangers.
That's been the argument against women's rights since the beginning of time. Cover your face, dear, it's for your own protection.
@@jancie202 She was literally almost killed.
@@senluke it wasn't 'just a walk', she saw the stone circle and loves her husband (from her time) and attempted to return to him like a loyal partner would be expected to do. But also, if it's too dangerous in the woods, he should have brought her with him. He didn't have a good reason for leaving her there in the first place. And if that's not enough, you don't speak to someone you view as an equal like a misbehaving child. Fortunately, he learned better.
@@runningfromabear8354 And he had no idea about the stones at that point. From his point of view, with knowledge he had, he was 100% justified to be a mad. She told her to stay hidden, becuase the red coats could get her. She didint listen and red coats got her. Its not about control, its about not doing stupid things, and putting others in danger.
Of course she was justified to do it, she tried ro get back to her own time, but he had no idea about that. With his knowledge he was right.
@@senluke no shit, but your wording implies 1. She was 100% wrong. 2. That his anger was justified, when he was the one to insist she stayed in the woods with the young guy after previous incidents exposed that the highlands weren't safe even alone with just him. Her "guard" walked off to take a crap. She was already alone whether she walked up to the stonehenge or standing right there. Jamie's anger wasn't justified.
Ese es el trato que recibía ler de sam cuando estuvo con el el primer tiempo heran unos bárbaros que mo sabían tratar a una mujer
They both wrong even in this time. Who goes for a walk in the woods in such a times and then gets angry cause he tried to protect you. But then who thinks someone would do something like this on purpose. In the end the essence of reasoning is all that needed to be said. Harsh times makes a harsh man especially when he wants to keep you safe. That's any male mind in any type of relationship with a woman.
A woman from the past would do better with a modern man than the reverse.
You damn right because if a man even dreamt of speaking to me like that he better wake up running.
The AI captions are dreadful 😨
I'm with Jamie 100% on this one. It's all her fucking fault.
Wow, that was toxic. I thought this show was supposed to be about this epic love story. If my husband ever called me a B, I'd immediately divorce him.
He called her a foul mouthed b****, she called him a f****** Bast@rd.... I think they're even 😂 If you read the books the story is fantastic and so is their dynamic.
@scullywully1604 they were both in the wrong she shouldn’t have called him names and he shouldn’t have either. But there both from different times
Do you know the backstory?
There's no context that makes this exchange okay.
It reality for a lot of people
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Is it just me or did he manage to play the victim and make it all about him ...and then she apologized? 👎🏻
Did they not apologize to each other? Staying proud makes reconciliation very hard. This modern day victimhood/victim-shaming nonsense is why our society is becoming so screwed up. Everyone is owed… except possibly the man. Their bad behavior needs to be excused because of their identity. That is peak narcissism.
@@_Colie Understand her feelings? This isn't about her feelings. They are in very dangerous times where the enemy is constantly milling around. She knows this. Second, the men around him just had to risk their lives to rescue her. They aren't trying to die for her. From their viewpoint, if he can't control his wife, they will not stay loyal to him. I don't like how she was expected to obey him, but that's the world she's in. She needs to fall in line whether she likes it or not. It would be like me waking up in a country where the women are expected to wear burkas and me insisting on wearing a bikini when I know damn well that that will reflect poorly on me and whoever I'm staying with. I love Claire, but she was forever putting Jaime in a position where he was having to defend her and explain her to people. It got on my nerves.
Thank you. They are both the victims but at least he acknowledges what happened to her. She is just acting like she knows everything and showing no regard for the danger she put them all in. Imagine being in Ukraine right now and just "going for a walk". You'd be out your mind.
Yes,
It is just you. Glad you asked.
She was thinking only of herself
Exactly!
He was right!
He was 100% wrong.
@@ohana8535 If she had obeyed her husband she would not have been put into danger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@theapostaterunawayslave First, if she was the obeying time, the show would be a snooze. She's the heroine of this story and when she found an opportunity to return to her time, she took it. After she told him that she was from the future and was desperately trying to go back to Frank, he understood and was sorry for beating her. Glad she's not the obedient kind. Love her feistiness,
@@jakek4876 women need to obey
@@theapostaterunawayslave They're in a war. She's not responsible for the crimes of other soldiers. She's allowed to choose her own risks and make any attempt to go home that she can. She's not their mother or their babysitter or even a member of the community. Every single member of that group knows the marriage is a fraud at that point.
Otro maltrato de sam hacia cait😮
I love the Outlander book series!!! The only characters I like is Jamie, Young Ian, Marsali, Lord John and Murtagh. I don’t like Claire even in her older age or Brianna or Roger Lol I can go on. But Claire is annoying, even as she gets older but Jamie loves her so🤷🏽♀️
I love book Claire, but hate TV Claire.
Jamie is a brute and a jerk.
I think she likes to make Jamie mad cause she secretly thinks it's sexy! I can't blame her!
Totally missed the point.
She got herself in trouble because she wouldn’t listen to him and she’s willful. She has no idea how to be part of a team. Then he saves her from a fate worse than death and she slaps him. Doesn’t say thanks or sorry. I don’t find it cute.
Yeah she was awful to him at times. She needs to stop acting like she’s in charge all the time.
If he had listened to her in the first place, none of this would have happened. He should have taken her with him.
@@soulserenade.kcn1992He should have listened to her.
No, she got in trouble because she was trying to get back to her timeline. It’s not like she could discuss that with anyone or get his input on the matter… of course she’d have to escape on her own and disobey him to do so
It was her fault.
AND… they were on a break!
She was wrong sorry to say ! Wrong 😢😢
So at some point women knew how to apologize. Wow.
You are messed up.
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I’m a woman but I stopped watching this show because of how much annoying and stubborn Claire was.
I know they need to create drama to keep the show going but letting her playing feminist all the time refusing to listen to her husband and putting both of them in danger was infuriating.
After he got raped because she refused to obey his commands and stay put I started to feel discussed by her character.
She sucks 🤮
Would you also describe a man who thinks independently and does what he wants without consulting others as stubborn? Or would you call him decisive and assertive? I sense a double standard from you regarding the same behaviours from men and women...
It wasn't her fault that he got raped. He went off with the Watch and was captured. Randal wanted Jamie from the moment he saw him. He tried to have his way with him the first time Randal took him. Claire was at Lallybrock waiting for him to come back.
@@leoniep9231 Yes, I would if the book was written in the sense that Jaime was in a matriarchal society and was expected to obey Claire. For me, this isn't about feminism. This is about Claire being stupidly stubborn. Should she have to obey him? No. Were their expectations about men and women fucked up? Of course. However, she knows what this society is like and what's expected of her. This doesn't just affect her; it affects Jaime and his relationship with his men as well. They had to risk their lives to rescue her all because she was trying to get back to the stone. She should have stayed put. Of all people, she knows that the English are everywhere. If she had to marry Jaime for protection, talking a walk alone as a woman was peak stupidity.
Men at least have the sense to know what environment they are in and adapt. Claire was just annoying after years of refusing to recognize she is in 18th century Scotland and has put Jamie and too many in danger with her attitude and outbursts of feminism which is rooted in lack of accountability and selfishness.
@@misspriss2482no you wouldn't
he saved your a$$ let him be angry and let it off of his chest such an entitled BH
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She looks like his mom
I am a surgeon
She’s not as much of a feminist in the books
Not pretty
Claire is REALLY annoying….. please tell me she loses her feminism shtick as the season goes on…. It’s almost unbearable to watch as she puts everything into danger and never seems to think things through. Especially when she was trying to save Jaime in Wentworth prison…. She thinks she is untouchable.
She doesnt think she is u touchable. She represents thatWomen Do t want to be treatwt like weak objects
Wow. Her "feminist shtick"... Hope there are no women in your life because you sound like a bad person to be around.
You realize she becomes a surgeon later on and heals rapists and murderers right?
This is the problem with modern women!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you are weak and think it's a problem?
Claire was so annoying I stopped watching after like the 2nd or 3rd season. Can’t remember. The excessive whining and stubbornness is annoying af. She’s trying to be a feminist in 18th century Scotland
Ends up as woke crap
So she cheats on him too.
No she cheated on Frank with Jamie for sure.
@@thruthemotions No, she didn't cheat on Frank with Jamie because Frank was not born during her time with Jamie.
@@jakek4876 she went back to the present day and told frank to his face that she had an affair with James. Frank later read that she went back to james before he died in the car crash. She didn't even try hard enough to get back to Frank which is understandable; her and James have been through more hell so of course they're bond grew stronger.
@@thruthemotions In the context of real/present time, it would be but not 200 years before Frank was born and she had no idea that she would have ever been able to go back to her time. Moreover, she was pregnant and was 100% truthful about what happened to her. So no, it wasn't cheating.
@@jakek4876 in real life cheating isn't on purpose all the time. Shit happens
white feminism 101
He should have listened to her. She told him to take her with him.