The culture around guns in Switzerland is almost exclusively sport or military and not self defense related. Our crime rate is relatively low so there is little need to own a gun if you don't shoot for sport.
i mean how many mass shootings since this video was posted? If america truely wanted to make the situation better they need to invest in education and in make life easier for poor people.
No there is a self defence element to swiss gun culture, I am guessing you are just not in the loop. I am from Austria and I hang out with loads of swiss people who have guns for home defence.
@@davedavids57 I am swiss and I don‘t know anyone who has a gun at home for self defence. There are some people who buy guns out of fear, this is very recently, I think there was a report about it a while ago. Though it is definitely not the main reason why there is such a high percentage of guns in switzerland.
If you wanna do more Swiss videos, I will suggest you start with railroading in Switzerland. Train rides down there, involve some of the most breathtaking nature in Europe.
I was 16 and we had a class trip to Lausanne, 3 of my best friends and I just met George Breggy, one of the most famous soccer players of our nation just jogging around and let us interview him for 30min for our class project. Now of of course you don't know who this is, but this an icon to us teenage boys, Switzerland finally going to a world cup again in 1994, and passing the group stage ! And this guy shot one of the most famous long range stationary shots to score. In the 70' and 80's we were happy to just qualify for a European or World championship. It was amazing to see us advance past the group stage at the 1994 WC. And then barely a year later us nobody school kids just see this icon of an athlete stop his thing and answer all our random questions. Also Justin Biber keeps returning here for vacations, because he enjoys just strolling along the lakeside and joining a bunch of dudes kicking a ball around, cause no one either recognizes him, or if they do, just enjoy meeting him and not calling in the papparazzi squad. Tina Turner is living near Zürich for decades now. Phil Collins lived near geneva for quite a while. I suppose if you actually want to live in peace, this is a good place. But some just miss the attention. Like robin williams who said it was too boring to live in switzerland. /shrug lol
The Gun Permit is not from Swiss Police but Swiss Justice Ministerium and by law it can't be refused when having an impeccable record.During the Swiss Federal Field Shooting Fest you see Swiss president Ueli Maurer with his pimped SIG 90 surrounded by similar armed citizens and all this without body guards. The Shooting in the Cantonal Zug Parlement where a disgrunteld citizen of Zug wanted to show his disdain with bullets was the big exception
The traditionnel rifles used at the shooting events you saw, is the SIG AR 550 and the bolt action rifle we call Karabiner. All SIG AR 550s that do not belong to an active member of the militi have the ability to shoot in automatic fire mechanically removed. Even the AR 550s of the soldiers have an extra safety switch that clearly indicates if the weapon could or could not be switched to automatic fire over the fire selecter by the person who is using it. Most soldiers will not even practice shooting in automatic fire, ever. It is not allowed for them to switch this safety switch unless they get drafted for active duty in the case of a mobilisation. A weapons collector can buy almost any common fire arms. But if it is a weapon with automatic fire capabilities, it has to be mechanically removed. At the traditional shooting ranges, we shoot at the targets at a range of 300m / 328 yards using only the Iron sight of the AR 550. This tradition makes the swiss army basically an army filled with marksmen.
the sig ar550 as you call it is just called sig 550 and no ar in its name in fact it is closer to an ak than an ar15. and don't even try correcting me i own a gun store and repair those for a living.
I think another important factor to consider is that in Switzerland everyone has a very good standard of living, even minimum wage workers have a comfortable life, so there's less reason for people to be desperate enough or pissed off enough for people to want to shoot other people.
The reality is somewhat ... elsewhere. People with minimum wage do *not* have a comfortable life in Switzerland, health system is good but very expensive, taxes can be high on a local, state and federal level and the percentage of poor people are higher than what one would think of Switzerland (15% of households of the working population and 22% of households of retired residents are affected by poverty are the numbers reported by the Swiss Federal Office for Social Insurance for 2021). To be fair, people with poor revenues have no comfortable life, literally nowhere in the world. On the other hand, most intra-family murders are made with a gun (service gun or acquired gun). Swiss Federal Office for Gender Equality's Report in 2020 "Violence domestique et recours aux armes" states that 34% of domestic violences are made with guns (higher % before 30% with cold weapon) and the proportion of deceased people because of guns in domestic violence reaches 67% vs 57% with other «means». The fact Switzerland has a low deaths related to guns rate is mainly because: 1) They learn how to handle things with care and understand how it works 2) They are taught about rules, and they're known to be respectful of these rules 3) Law is not perfect but tends to stick to the reality of the market in a free economy, in a libertarian way of using arms in Switzerland which is a real and long centuries' tradition, way much longer than in the USA, and a security for others to protect them of violence Draw you own conclusions on America. ;)
@@Slithermotion Who said Switzerland had a minimum wage ? Not me. There are no minimum wage on a national scale. However you will find a legal one in a few cantons i.e. it means that in Switzerland, in various cantons, you will find real people living with a real minimum wage. I wrote: «People with minimum wage do not have a comfortable life in Switzerland». It's a reality. People who have the opportunity to be paid a minimum wage in various cantons do not have a comfortable life. #QED
If you look deeply it's actually majority wrong, it states there are psychological checks, red flag laws, safe storage rule, strict carrying rules (it gets confused between carrying and transporting), 2 week waiting period, mental health background check, compulsory training, strict background checks (your actually allowed 1 non violent criminal offence every 10 years) etc etc. All not true. It's amazing really they can just make stuff up and get away with it.
The background check part is correct, in order to have a permet you must have no criminal past of any sort. But the mental background check part is false, never had one or never heard of anyone having one ^^. It's mostly because if you have mental problems that require someone monitoring you (like being suicidal or being very unstable) they take that into account and it is not necessary to have a psychological test.
The background check part is also incorrect (like most other claims in the video) you are actually allowed one non violent criminal offence every 10 years (after 10 years they are wiped from the record). So you can get caught dangerous driving, avoiding tax, smoking drugs, etc once every 10 years no problem.
Switzerland has still a milita army and a militia army has to be trained. Therfore every county has to hold a shooting range for the obligatory training of soldiers when they return from having completed the recruit-school and the annual repetion-service in their normal life as a citizen. A Swiss is either a soldier in civil oder a citizen in uniform. For western gouvernements was the fall of the Berlin Wall, the End of German Democratic Republic and later the USSR not only "victory of liberal democracy". They saw also the thread by a militia army, a peoples army. If every family has father, husband, brother and son in the army, it is possible, the army is more loyal to the country than to the gouvernement. So it happend at the end of the GDR. The people felt as supressed by the governemental state, that it was impossible, to give the order to police and army to shout to the people - the soldiers were part of them. It was an insurrection, that is out of question. But the insurrection was that overvelming, that the security forces, inclusive Volksarmee joined and the gouvernement lost its power. The early USA had also a militia army and the second amendment, to have firearms was not a freedom, but a duty. As the USA became more and more mighty, ist needed also an army to conquer and an army that could fight all over the world. That is impossible with a militia army. As the US-militia disappeared, the 2nd amendment changed from duty to personal freedom. But the root of the 2nd amendment is also alive in the USA: the democratic possibility of a militia army to overtrow a despotic gouvernement, if necessary. "If the gouvernement fears the people, there is democracy, if the people fears the gouvernement, there is tyranny.", Benjamin Franklin, "Father" of the US-Constitution. This two sides of the medal may be an explanation for the hystery round 1/6 in the USA. In my view as a Swiss, that was an unjestified, uncontrolled rumpus, far away from an insurrection. Why did Nancy Pelosi not order the National Guard, as former president trump asked to do? May be, because it was not sure, that the guardists did not join the demonstraters or as the Democrats say, the attackers of the "heart of US-democracy". I mean, the Capitol is a building, but not the essence of US-democracy, wich was not in danger i.m.o. on 6th January. In Switzerland firearms are part of the army and the army is part of the people - in Switzerland that is a question of identity, of duty for the own country - or "respect", as the instructor says. There was one mass shooting since 1848. It is not true, that "Switzerland learned of this mistake". It was the EU, that forbid, that the Swiss soldiers take the rifle and the ammunition at home - because of the danger of massshootings. Many Swiss were very unhappy with this order. That takes at least four days to mobilize instead of 24 hours was complained. Switzerland can easily invaded, was the exaggeration. By the way: in Switzerland there are referendums for armement as arcrafts, tanks, missile system etc.. I think, the real aim of this referendums are rudimentary education of the citizes in warfare - mostly the proposal of the military departement, Bundesrat and parliament are accepted. Switzerland can not be a model for the USA with its professional army, contractors and so on. But the fire arms debatte could be rationalized with a debate of the militia roots of 2nd amendment and its meaning for the US democracy in 21st century.
Guns is for war and not for self defence…..i dont know why people in USA dont understand how valuable live is….so many stupid kill for nothing. Thanks. for i born and live in switzerland, is the real great contry in the world, because good education through school.
Oh no we do have anti gun people, however they're not as prominent here as in other countries because gun related violence is petty much zero, so there isn't really a need to talk about it.
@@michellehawk282 Well you don't have the CIA running psyops on mentally ill youth to push violence that can then be politicized to reduce Constitutional freedoms either...
We have some, our gun culture is more prominent in rural areas than in cities. Most of the anti gun people are also anti army, bc it's mandatory for men to serve unless they have health issues or choose to do civil service instead of military. From personal experience as a federal shooting instructor (bc military people need to shoot once a year in a fed shooting range if they don't want to be finned) most men from the city really hate coming shooting and don't have any interest in it, unlike women who went to the army as volunteers. Most of the anti gun people are uneducated on our security/gun control system and associated guns with violence unlike people who are directly involved in it who see it more as a sport who need discipline. (idk if I'm clear on what I wrote)
For anyone who thinks buying a gun is so easy.... why don't you actually buy one and say that. Ridiculous how ppl assume that walking into Walmart can get you a firearm. Especially in CA.... Always try to find answers in wrong ways .
It doesn't, a better and healthier society does, and those videos proved it The swiss have: - *Higher average IQ* - Lower *Single Motherhood* rates - More social cohesion - Better mental illness resources - Better gun education resources There you go, there's your answer, none of which involved the guns being the problem, none of which involves gun laws or _control_ either. Holy shit, crazy huh? 🤡🌍 crazy how that flies over anti-gunners heads
Its not easier to get a gun than alcohol here!? Have you bought guns? Have you bought alcohol? You have to get a background check for one of them and not the other.
To be fair, I live in Austria next to Switzerland and u can buy a rifle with your driving license (not full automatic n wait 72h) no register, no paperwork and it’s even safer. Not a lot of people buy one. The laws about keeping them locked…. R the same
Servus!! Anything here in Austria cat c, so bolt action, lever action, double barrelled over 60 cm (not pumps) are legal to own if you pass a background check and wait three days. Cat B stuff you need a WBK, so for semi autos and hand guns you need a WBK licence (and if your an Austrian man under 40 you need to have been in the army). Weird fact is that in both Switzerland and Austria the law just says you have to keep it stored in a responsible way. That's it.
The culture around guns in Switzerland is almost exclusively sport or military and not self defense related. Our crime rate is relatively low so there is little need to own a gun if you don't shoot for sport.
i mean how many mass shootings since this video was posted? If america truely wanted to make the situation better they need to invest in education and in make life easier for poor people.
@@sadgfasdg542 and regulate guns.
@@AlexanderOnFire yep
No there is a self defence element to swiss gun culture, I am guessing you are just not in the loop. I am from Austria and I hang out with loads of swiss people who have guns for home defence.
@@davedavids57 I am swiss and I don‘t know anyone who has a gun at home for self defence. There are some people who buy guns out of fear, this is very recently, I think there was a report about it a while ago. Though it is definitely not the main reason why there is such a high percentage of guns in switzerland.
If you wanna do more Swiss videos, I will suggest you start with railroading in Switzerland. Train rides down there, involve some of the most breathtaking nature in Europe.
I was 16 and we had a class trip to Lausanne, 3 of my best friends and I just met George Breggy, one of the most famous soccer players of our nation just jogging around and let us interview him for 30min for our class project. Now of of course you don't know who this is, but this an icon to us teenage boys, Switzerland finally going to a world cup again in 1994, and passing the group stage ! And this guy shot one of the most famous long range stationary shots to score. In the 70' and 80's we were happy to just qualify for a European or World championship. It was amazing to see us advance past the group stage at the 1994 WC. And then barely a year later us nobody school kids just see this icon of an athlete stop his thing and answer all our random questions.
Also Justin Biber keeps returning here for vacations, because he enjoys just strolling along the lakeside and joining a bunch of dudes kicking a ball around, cause no one either recognizes him, or if they do, just enjoy meeting him and not calling in the papparazzi squad.
Tina Turner is living near Zürich for decades now. Phil Collins lived near geneva for quite a while. I suppose if you actually want to live in peace, this is a good place. But some just miss the attention. Like robin williams who said it was too boring to live in switzerland. /shrug lol
Bregy the Beckham of Switzerland at the World Cup he made such a great Goal
actually phil collins lived in Montreux and opened a drumming school there.
The Gun Permit is not from Swiss Police but Swiss Justice Ministerium and by law it can't be refused when having an impeccable record.During the Swiss Federal Field Shooting Fest you see Swiss president Ueli Maurer with his pimped SIG 90 surrounded by similar armed citizens and all this without body guards. The Shooting in the Cantonal Zug Parlement where a disgrunteld citizen of Zug wanted to show his disdain with bullets was the big exception
The traditionnel rifles used at the shooting events you saw, is the SIG AR 550 and the bolt action rifle we call Karabiner. All SIG AR 550s that do not belong to an active member of the militi have the ability to shoot in automatic fire mechanically removed. Even the AR 550s of the soldiers have an extra safety switch that clearly indicates if the weapon could or could not be switched to automatic fire over the fire selecter by the person who is using it. Most soldiers will not even practice shooting in automatic fire, ever. It is not allowed for them to switch this safety switch unless they get drafted for active duty in the case of a mobilisation.
A weapons collector can buy almost any common fire arms. But if it is a weapon with automatic fire capabilities, it has to be mechanically removed.
At the traditional shooting ranges, we shoot at the targets at a range of 300m / 328 yards using only the Iron sight of the AR 550. This tradition makes the swiss army basically an army filled with marksmen.
the sig ar550 as you call it is just called sig 550 and no ar in its name in fact it is closer to an ak than an ar15. and don't even try correcting me i own a gun store and repair those for a living.
I think another important factor to consider is that in Switzerland everyone has a very good standard of living, even minimum wage workers have a comfortable life, so there's less reason for people to be desperate enough or pissed off enough for people to want to shoot other people.
The reality is somewhat ... elsewhere. People with minimum wage do *not* have a comfortable life in Switzerland, health system is good but very expensive, taxes can be high on a local, state and federal level and the percentage of poor people are higher than what one would think of Switzerland (15% of households of the working population and 22% of households of retired residents are affected by poverty are the numbers reported by the Swiss Federal Office for Social Insurance for 2021). To be fair, people with poor revenues have no comfortable life, literally nowhere in the world.
On the other hand, most intra-family murders are made with a gun (service gun or acquired gun). Swiss Federal Office for Gender Equality's Report in 2020 "Violence domestique et recours aux armes" states that 34% of domestic violences are made with guns (higher % before 30% with cold weapon) and the proportion of deceased people because of guns in domestic violence reaches 67% vs 57% with other «means».
The fact Switzerland has a low deaths related to guns rate is mainly because:
1) They learn how to handle things with care and understand how it works
2) They are taught about rules, and they're known to be respectful of these rules
3) Law is not perfect but tends to stick to the reality of the market in a free economy, in a libertarian way of using arms in Switzerland which is a real and long centuries' tradition, way much longer than in the USA, and a security for others to protect them of violence
Draw you own conclusions on America. ;)
Switzerland actually doesn't have a minimum wage.
I think it's just the culture over there. Usa is a melting pot with people who are all human that believe we're all too different from one another.
@@Slithermotion Who said Switzerland had a minimum wage ? Not me.
There are no minimum wage on a national scale. However you will find a legal one in a few cantons i.e. it means that in Switzerland, in various cantons, you will find real people living with a real minimum wage.
I wrote: «People with minimum wage do not have a comfortable life in Switzerland». It's a reality. People who have the opportunity to be paid a minimum wage in various cantons do not have a comfortable life.
#QED
@@nashtags You said it and even quoted it again.
I'm Swiss. Not everything in this is 100% correct, but the gist of it is right.
Grüezi wohl und guet schuss!
If you look deeply it's actually majority wrong, it states there are psychological checks, red flag laws, safe storage rule, strict carrying rules (it gets confused between carrying and transporting), 2 week waiting period, mental health background check, compulsory training, strict background checks (your actually allowed 1 non violent criminal offence every 10 years) etc etc. All not true. It's amazing really they can just make stuff up and get away with it.
thats no dough its melted cheese called fondue :D
The background check part is correct, in order to have a permet you must have no criminal past of any sort. But the mental background check part is false, never had one or never heard of anyone having one ^^. It's mostly because if you have mental problems that require someone monitoring you (like being suicidal or being very unstable) they take that into account and it is not necessary to have a psychological test.
The background check part is also incorrect (like most other claims in the video) you are actually allowed one non violent criminal offence every 10 years (after 10 years they are wiped from the record). So you can get caught dangerous driving, avoiding tax, smoking drugs, etc once every 10 years no problem.
Nah man, we’re not armed and dangerous. We’re armed and friendly.
With get power comes great responsibility
Mikko Leinonen - not a very Swiss name ;)
He's from Finland. Met him at a shooting range in Geneva where he has training courses. Super nice guy.
We don’t have the 13%….
well...we are close
thats not even the issue
try *bad breeding* and *single motherhood* caused by ♀
Switzerland has still a milita army and a militia army has to be trained. Therfore every county has to hold a shooting range for the obligatory training of soldiers when they return from having completed the recruit-school and the annual repetion-service in their normal life as a citizen. A Swiss is either a soldier in civil oder a citizen in uniform.
For western gouvernements was the fall of the Berlin Wall, the End of German Democratic Republic and later the USSR not only "victory of liberal democracy". They saw also the thread by a militia army, a peoples army. If every family has father, husband, brother and son in the army, it is possible, the army is more loyal to the country than to the gouvernement. So it happend at the end of the GDR. The people felt as supressed by the governemental state, that it was impossible, to give the order to police and army to shout to the people - the soldiers were part of them. It was an insurrection, that is out of question. But the insurrection was that overvelming, that the security forces, inclusive Volksarmee joined and the gouvernement lost its power. The early USA had also a militia army and the second amendment, to have firearms was not a freedom, but a duty.
As the USA became more and more mighty, ist needed also an army to conquer and an army that could fight all over the world. That is impossible with a militia army. As the US-militia disappeared, the 2nd amendment changed from duty to personal freedom. But the root of the 2nd amendment is also alive in the USA: the democratic possibility of a militia army to overtrow a despotic gouvernement, if necessary. "If the gouvernement fears the people, there is democracy, if the people fears the gouvernement, there is tyranny.", Benjamin Franklin, "Father" of the US-Constitution.
This two sides of the medal may be an explanation for the hystery round 1/6 in the USA. In my view as a Swiss, that was an unjestified, uncontrolled rumpus, far away from an insurrection. Why did Nancy Pelosi not order the National Guard, as former president trump asked to do? May be, because it was not sure, that the guardists did not join the demonstraters or as the Democrats say, the attackers of the "heart of US-democracy". I mean, the Capitol is a building, but not the essence of US-democracy, wich was not in danger i.m.o. on 6th January.
In Switzerland firearms are part of the army and the army is part of the people - in Switzerland that is a question of identity, of duty for the own country - or "respect", as the instructor says.
There was one mass shooting since 1848. It is not true, that "Switzerland learned of this mistake". It was the EU, that forbid, that the Swiss soldiers take the rifle and the ammunition at home - because of the danger of massshootings. Many Swiss were very unhappy with this order. That takes at least four days to mobilize instead of 24 hours was complained. Switzerland can easily invaded, was the exaggeration.
By the way: in Switzerland there are referendums for armement as arcrafts, tanks, missile system etc.. I think, the real aim of this referendums are rudimentary education of the citizes in warfare - mostly the proposal of the military departement, Bundesrat and parliament are accepted.
Switzerland can not be a model for the USA with its professional army, contractors and so on. But the fire arms debatte could be rationalized with a debate of the militia roots of 2nd amendment and its meaning for the US democracy in 21st century.
as orther europeans say switzerland has no army it IS an army.
Guns is for war and not for self defence…..i dont know why people in USA dont understand how valuable live is….so many stupid kill for nothing. Thanks. for i born and live in switzerland, is the real great contry in the world, because good education through school.
to me, the funny thing about US-Americans is: the anti abortion people are also the pro gun people.... let that sink in!
Just guessing no anti gun persons
Oh no we do have anti gun people, however they're not as prominent here as in other countries because gun related violence is petty much zero, so there isn't really a need to talk about it.
@@michellehawk282 Well you don't have the CIA running psyops on mentally ill youth to push violence that can then be politicized to reduce Constitutional freedoms either...
We have some, our gun culture is more prominent in rural areas than in cities. Most of the anti gun people are also anti army, bc it's mandatory for men to serve unless they have health issues or choose to do civil service instead of military. From personal experience as a federal shooting instructor (bc military people need to shoot once a year in a fed shooting range if they don't want to be finned) most men from the city really hate coming shooting and don't have any interest in it, unlike women who went to the army as volunteers. Most of the anti gun people are uneducated on our security/gun control system and associated guns with violence unlike people who are directly involved in it who see it more as a sport who need discipline.
(idk if I'm clear on what I wrote)
yes ther is some but there is also an asociation who protects our right to own guns called pro tell.
For anyone who thinks buying a gun is so easy.... why don't you actually buy one and say that. Ridiculous how ppl assume that walking into Walmart can get you a firearm. Especially in CA.... Always try to find answers in wrong ways .
lol
Well this didnt age well 😂 its kinda awkward right now
It's almost like reasonable gun control works.
It doesn't, a better and healthier society does, and those videos proved it
The swiss have:
- *Higher average IQ*
- Lower *Single Motherhood* rates
- More social cohesion
- Better mental illness resources
- Better gun education resources
There you go, there's your answer, none of which involved the guns being the problem, none of which involves gun laws or _control_ either.
Holy shit, crazy huh? 🤡🌍
crazy how that flies over anti-gunners heads
Its not easier to get a gun than alcohol here!? Have you bought guns? Have you bought alcohol? You have to get a background check for one of them and not the other.
To be fair, I live in Austria next to Switzerland and u can buy a rifle with your driving license (not full automatic n wait 72h) no register, no paperwork and it’s even safer. Not a lot of people buy one. The laws about keeping them locked…. R the same
Servus!! Anything here in Austria cat c, so bolt action, lever action, double barrelled over 60 cm (not pumps) are legal to own if you pass a background check and wait three days. Cat B stuff you need a WBK, so for semi autos and hand guns you need a WBK licence (and if your an Austrian man under 40 you need to have been in the army). Weird fact is that in both Switzerland and Austria the law just says you have to keep it stored in a responsible way. That's it.