There is a bit of a mistake in the video. The procedure explained in the video is actually the vote of confidence / confidence question (Vertrauensfrage). There is a separate constructive vote of no-confidence (konstruktives Misstrauensvotum), where the Bundestag can put forward a new chancellor and vote that person in. I am curious if Merz will decide to call that if Scholz continues to refuse to call a confidence vote, since it will require working together with the AFD to set up a plan where a person gets made chancellor and then immediately calls a confidence question on purpose to trigger elections faster.
Merz may not have a majority for such a vote, unless he comes to terms with the SPD (which would have to vote down their own chancellor to make this happen). Instead he wants early elections to gain more seats. Regardless, he will likely require the SPD again to form the next government. He will have to move, if he wants to form a stable government.
It needs to hurt before we learn. I’m 100% sure Germany and the rest of EU will evolve and become bigger, greater and more respected. We need to change the treaty , so we can stop the stupid veto rules. 🇪🇺
You can't remove the Veto without making EU a federation. Why would or should a country give their Vero if the EU is a hostile environment. Without an elected leader, a full authority parliament, removed borders, common foreign-immigration-energy policies and a common army this cannot happen.
German is definitely his Native Language. He is a German. I don't think you can pronounce these names like this otherwise. I would at least be surprised.
One thing, while Germany is TECHNICALLY in recession it's not called thst way in proper economical terms. Changes so small, below 0,5%, either negative or positive are called stagnation and German economy is stagnating due to that. Calling it a full on recession gives wrong idea about real state of German economy which isn't in the best shape but it's doesn't deserve to be called horrible either.
I'm pretty sure the "break" is actually "brake", like braking an auto. The CDU's call for earlier vote leaves me the impression that they won't cooperate on a budget agreement, as this would give SPD opportunity to earn back votes before March and retain more seats. If they don't have to give them that, would they?
This is already part of Scholz's election campaign; if Merz doesn't address it, he should be seen as irresponsible and not statesmanlike. If Merz does, on the other hand, Scholz can present himself as a capable negotiator.
well... with no money, Russia wins and sells us gas and oil and much higher prices for helping Ukraine. if we help Ukraine, we send a message that no country has the right to go back on its word of respecting another country's borders. else we might as well through East Europe under the bus and mind our own business. also, sending money to Ukraine is least of our financial issues. sure, it is substantial, but we are getting taken for fools by the "human rights" shtick and immigrants keep comming to us for free benefits while we leave our own to freeze during winter or starve. look at the mayor of London, calling for free public transporation, but only for immigrants, not for eveyone. who pays for that? the british people, of course. but he does not care, he is a pakistani first, and a politician second. maybe a british somewhere in the 31st place on that list. Europe is generous with its money towards immigrants of totally different cultural backgrounds and ambitions, but ppl point fingers only towards money spent for our protection and our solidarity with our neighbors and possibly future allies. i find that weird.
@@Lucas-wn5wmnahh, we have always enough money for other European countries that are against russia and for Israel, even if we can't pay our own hospitals and streets
One thing that should be mensioned is that in the beginning moths of the coalition there was a lot of hope and also a huge effort from every party to make the coalition work. Then in feb 2022 it went south.
Actually no basically he fired some impottand figure, olaf wanted to send 250 billion to ukraine so he said no and got fired tbh i wouldve done the same Thing Ukraine dosent care about us anyway
I dont get the "cut tax" vs "no more debt" contradiction. Cutting corporate taxes, effectively increases debt. Was this an inherent conflict of economic ideologies or politics?
@@inteallsviktigt I meant the FDP is proposing what I would rather call a libeterian approach, smaller Fiscal Spending, allowing the Free Market to revive by itself, While the SPD side wants follow rather their Keynsian approach of more direct influence. So both will immediately increase the debts,one by spending, one by decreasing Goverment income. This is the contradiction I see in their arguments. No one is decreasing debt in the long run.
@ well not quite as the German have kept their debt in check and have been about 50-60% of GDP since WW2. FDP wants to invest in the economy but lower tax revenues. SPD do not want to increase the debt more than 3% of GDP/ or government deficit. As its irresponsible in their eyes to spend more than you actually have
@@inteallsviktigt both wrong. Neither of you understood it. Lindner refuses to take on debt. That would be legally possible, even though it is sometimes claimed otherwise (the explanation would be too long). At the same time, the FDP (which is now its only purpose) does not want to increase taxes. This means that they want a Social Democratic Chancellor to cut social benefits and the Greens cannot finance their climate protection. If he had been left alone, the Greens and SPD would no longer have had to show up to their voters - and tip from me: the people on the street would also have asked what the Ukraine crap was all about
Very unlikely: The Left and their split off party BSW don’t offer enough votes The AfD would never support this government and Scholz wouldn’t want their support anyway The FDP just left the government. One of their ministers actually left the party of this and remains in government, so maybe Scholz could hope for a couple more defectors from their ranks but not enough for a majority And CDU/CSU, as mentioned in the video, want new elections asap, so they wouldn’t cooperate either or only for extreme concessions, which Scholz probably wouldn’t agree to
How does only the chencellor have the power to call a mo confidence vote on himself? I thought the point of a no confidence vote is that they’d be won by the opposition!
It's a quirk of the german system. What the opposition could do though is to present a new candidate for chancellor and vote that person in. The results of that would be either a new chancellor or the old one stays in power. This happened back in the 80s when Kohl was voted in and Schmidt out. After that Kohl did a no confidence vote to hold new elections.
Okay interesting, that’s kinda limiting though if opposition can’t trigger a no confidence vote that triggers and election, and instead they need to propose a new chancellor.
Yes that is the trade off. There is reasoning behind that tho: It’s easy to agree that the current government is bad and vote it out but if the opposition can’t agree on who should govern instead, it just leaves the country leaderless. They are supposed to agree on something new before kicking the old one out. Whenever there is something strange in Germanys politics system, there is a good chance that it is a lesson from the Weimar Republic and that is the case here: In the 1920/30s extreme and fringe parties were able to stop moderate governments from ruling effectively without presenting an alternative with a chance to get a majority. It was purely destructive and that is meant to be prevented by the need to elect someone new instead of simply voting the current guy out.
Hahahahahaha. No. Definitely not. The FDP is the main reason, why the whole coalition is so hated in Germany and all over Europe. It was always the FDP who blocked reforms at the EU-level.
@@matiKRK ok and why do you think that this is a good thing? Because the FDP did not simply just say "no". During the negotiations they would often say "well, we have some doubts about it but we let it pass" and when it came down to the vote, they simply blocked and said no. If your doubts are so strong, then just be transparent about it that you won't agree in passing the legislation. Why should you waste anyone's time by saying we let it pass and then showing your true colors just at the end of the month-long legislation procedures? This is not how you gain trust, this is how you destroy the trust of your partners. And they did that not just domestically, but also at the EU-level, destroying Germany's reputation as a reliable and serious partner.
@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204 they seem to be the only german party that has fiscally responsible policies and stopped the worst of the German left-wing coalition laws. It actually has a good plan and are not as conservative and populist as AfD. They just seem great overall, the only issue is that they seem to have too low support to form the government or be the dominant force in a coalition and I would not want them to be in a coalition with fiscally left wing parties.
Germany economy depends on vw Audi Mercedes why they want to close vw make no sense don’t close industry because you will end like Greece work work work
They dont want to close VW? VW reduced jobs due to them being in a crisis. Their crisis doesn't have anything to do with the government but instead their own continuous lying and bullshitting (Abgasskandal) as well as bad management. Bad management and lower returns is mostly them first not focussing on electronic cars and then too much and also being disadvantaged compared to Chinese state funded automotive firms.
1. Die Linke is split into some remnants and the BSW. 2. Even if die Linke was still united, there would be no majority. Without the CDU or FDP there is no majority possible, ignoring the right-wing AfD.
@@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204 why ignoring them, I heard that they become the most powerful party , maybe several months ago? I mean, since then I seldom read news about AFD and I’m curious about their trends now, can you say a few words cause I find that the video maker haven’t made any video😂😊
@@lilithsmolinski4563 he is just quoting Hitler, don't take him seriously. The AfD will remain ostracized from political responsibility, und das ist auch gut so.
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@@miersdelika5016 How on Earth are you counting Die Linke as a Democratic party? And at the same time NOT counting the AfD as one? Can you read? Do you know history?
@@peterfireflylund, cuz he is an anti-democratic guy that tries to exclude or include for ideologic reasons. The numbers are clear: the AfD is rising in the polls and they will be one of the three winners in the next election, no matter if far-left extremists accept that.
People genuinely think the problem is Germany (and the EU) haven't gone extreme enough. Using logic that defies reason, what Germany really needs is more debt, more state, and to transfer more power to the EU. Doubling up on failed policies will surely bring success this time. From the comments, I'm understanding why Germany is in such dire circumstances. People will collapse their country before they admit the direction the country is heading in is wrong.
Why, they seem to be quite useful. The ressources are there, but more centralisation will make use of them better. The only problem are nationalistic ideas
What are you all yapping about debt? No one cares about debt lest where it comes from. It's just a neoliberal myth to keep down the middle and lower class. It doesn't matter if an economy has a debt of 60% or 67%. The 60% is just a made up number by the EU. Of course you need to use debt wisely. Senseless investing is harmful to the economy, allowing tax cuts by taking on debt allows the economy to breath and further productivity.
This is germany we are speaking about lol. The same country tht not only faced debt from ww1 but was heavily subsidized under the Marshall act by the usa and other countries involved in spurring the economy back up. They are debt adverse just because of what happened to them in the past
monthly income for assembly line work at mercedes: 2.400€ monthly income for assembly line work at volkswagen: 4.500€ 20,2% of VW belongs to the federal state of lower saxony with so to say full power over decisions in VW. they prefer to prioritize overpaid earnings for their coworkers, than keeping VW competitive. despite only 20,2% shares, the red-green government (since 2014) is in the power of the blocking minority. instead of letting VW act, they are holding the managers accountable for the crisis now, although there were many attempts in the last months and years to change for the better, but were denied by the red-green party's minority block :D would be funny if it was a joke
I think it might be helpful to always put some information under the parties at bar charts. E.G. at 0:52: Union socially conservative/pro business/pro ukraine; SPD socially moderate/pro worker/pro ukraine; AfD socially reactionary/pro business/pro russia; FDP socially progressive/pro business/Pro Ukraine; Linke socially progressive/pro worker/pro russia; Grüne socially progressive/pro worker/pro ukraine; BSW socially conservative/pro worker/pro russia OR Union SPD AFD FDP Linke Grüne BSW Pro Worker: - - + + - - - - - - + + + + + + + Pro Ukraine: + + + + - - - + + - - + + + - - - Pro Tradition: + + - + + + + - - - - - + You could use party manifesto or chapel hill expert survey as sources. I think it is rather difficult to otherwise undersand, what coalitions might be possible and why it may take months to form a coalition.
Austrian here. No offense but your framing of this issue seems a little uninformed. Lindner had to go. If you think Germany is a paralyzed nation until the vote of no confidence, then you haven't paid attention in the last 3 years. Lindner sabotaged and held back the government for years. This should have been done sooner, not later. And it's not a coincidence that it happened right now after the US election. It's precisely because of the US election that Scholz did this in order to re-establish the ability to act of the German government. It was a much needed move and the only logical conclusion. And it was quite courageous from Scholz and even though I'm not a big fan of his, I think he should be applauded and praised for this bold move.
This is such weird framing 3:38 forgetting all the times lindner broke coalition promises After it being already in Theke coalition contract and publicly announced.
This is incorrect. By just looking at the numbers, the coalition was not as bad and even completed or begun two thirds of their contract promises. However, Greens and SPD demanded Lindner to break the coalition contract, in which it was made very clear,.that the "Schuldenbremse" should stay. Way too often, Lindner broke his own promises to his voters and against his will supported projects of SPD and Greens. Scholz new he wouldn't accept this one more insult. I think, Scholz planned this to gain public support by presenting the public a "Sündenbock", a person they could blame for their weak economy/finance politics. However important economy reforms were blocked by Habeck and Scholz
@@prof.cuthbertbinns8088 Wrong again. Stop spouting prop*ganda. My comment on your original post was deleted as will this one probably because I'm right and this channel revealed itself to be a conservative mouth piece with this wrong framing :) Taking on new debts is totally normal, especially in unprecedented times like these (20 years of missed investments in infra structure, pandemic, war in europe, climate problems). If there is any reason and time to take on new debt (for example from 60% to 80%) than it is now. Lindner showed everyone by refusing that he was there to make the Greens and SPD look bad right from the get go, because people aren't allowed to realize that it is not just the CDU that can "solve" problems. Everyone but the CDU and whoever the CDU appoints as their minion has to look incompetent so people just keep on voting for conservatives and their irrational and selfcentered policies.
Agreed ,this makes it seem more like habeck was the one who caused the collapse, when his party really wanted to keep the government together the most. Its also worth mentioning how cynically the FDP was colluding with the yellow press to destabilise their own coalition.
I really dont think a CDU SPD coalition is as likely as it used to be, the last few years have been marked by increasingly tense differences in ideology as the CDU aims to return from its at times uncharacteristically left wing, and green policies to the more center-right policies which used to be the core of the party. Simulatneously the SPD has experienced a much more left-wing drift in its ideology which makes the two parties increasingly incompatible. Really an FDP-Green-CDU, or the Jamaica Coalition seems much more likely, despite those three parties differences as it seems unlikely that the CDU and FDP will be able to secure a coalition on their own. The CDU and FDP essepcially wont want to work together with the SPD. And so whilst not at all popular amongst voters for either the CDU or FDP the Greens are just about the only option for coalition partners given that all the old mainstream parties, SPD, CDU, FDP and Greens have a blanket refusal to work together with the AFD or BSW on the federal level.
What bs are you talking dude, FDP wont even be in the parlament. Its like last time the fdp was in goverment. AND in addition, no the ydidnt refuse to work with BSW, BSW refused to work with them. Holy are you uninformed.
I honestly can't imagine the greens and fdp being in the same coalition without that coalition becoming disfunctional. They are, from their ideological core, just to different.
@@lemmyboy4107 Thats not really true? Whilst CDU politicians have shown some willingness to work together on a local level the coalition negotiations failed due to irreconsilable ideological differences, and the CDU membership as a whole is staunchly against a coalition with the BSW which doesnt make a coalitíon entirely impossible, but very unlikely. Also whilst the FDP definately has massively lost in support in more recent polls it has been able to reach just about the 5% barrier, and with the coalition now dead i am generally confident it will be able to maintain that level. Also 5% isnt the only way to get into parliament. If you get a direct mandate you are also guaranteed to be seated in parliament with the fraction of votes you got even if that is below 5%. This is the same way that Die Linke Managed to be represented in the current bundestag despite having only around 4%.
@@vmycode5142 They literally wanted to work with BSW on state level and only the bsw stopped the talk not the cdu. Inform yourself, or keep quiet! Also prove it to me which Direktmandate should the FDP get? Linke is pretty clear which they could get.
@@lemmyboy4107 I aknowledged that the CDU was willing to work together with the BSW, but i dont think that this is at all relevant to the federal level since i believe there is much more apprehension to working with parties on the federal level compared to the state level. And the exact failure to form a coalition with the BSW is likely to only reduce further willingnes of the CDU to try so in the future. Id agree that it is not at all certain the FDP would get a direct mandate, but given that the FW who nominally polls beneath the FDP was able to secure one direct mandate in Saxony shows that the possibility shouldnt be entirely discounted. Additionally I do generally believe that with the coalition being over the FDP may be able to secure the 1% additional national support it needs to ensure it enters the Bundestag. Also maybe stop being such a rude piece of work.
Why does he wait non- confidence vote for January. It is obvious that he is gonna lose, it is just waisting time. It’d be better to have early election and have coalition in early next year when Trump starts govern.
Maybe because organizing elections is not a kid's play and requires time. It's literally impossible to get done until January 5 (the next possible election day) and people are on holidays in December and January, so it's just your typical CDU/AfD populist rhetoric with no substance behind it.
The SPD argued today, that due to the Christmas break it would be logistically impossible to schedule reelections in January and instead they wan't to work together with the CDU to work on next year's finances and then move to reelections in March. For the stability of the country though, earlier reelections would probably be better.
I think it’s better to finish up the most pressing decisions before plunging the country fully into provisional government territory for a potentially very long time. After all, they’ll need months to form a new coalition, and success is not guaranteed.
LMAO. Conservatives after 2000 years of conservatism: ThE LEFtIEs HAvE tAkEN ovER QuICK wE NEeD CoNSeRvaTiVE rEVOLuTIOOOONN WUAAAAAAH THE WORLD IS GOIND UNDER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SAY FOR 4 YEARS WUAAAAH. FFS you people are cringe af.
Let's just hope the CDU recognizes the urgency of the threats we face on the international stage and the necessity of greater cooperation with the Europeans partners. I am surprised Germany has such a short memory of how painful it is to be split: They should know better than anyone else!
Scholz getting boot is best news in years, can’t wait for him to finally leave and be nothing more then memory of worst chancellor ever, utter failure and disgrace
incredible how SPD even led him take the lead when he was mired in scandals for years before, even more incredible that his title of worst chancellor of all time might well immediately taken over by Blackrock's Friedrich Merz, who will bleed the German middle class dry unapologetically. Way to waste away one of the most impressive post-war countries in the west.
No, they are widely unpopular in most parts of germany. The AFD only has success in the former east germany. Trump winning could go either way. It could be as you say, but people could also become more wary of right wing partys and the AFDs popularity might go even more down.
No, since BSW got formed, many leftist conservatives move their vote to them. Before, many leftist conservatives in the east voted for AfD. But they are not needed anymore.
Doesn't matter does it, if all other parties already say they won't work with them out of political principle, they'll just go down in the polls again because it will feel like a wasted vote. Now, if the CDU says something like "We might be able to work with them", they'll probably become the biggest party. That's what happened in the Netherlands.
Head of Germany: Hmm... we don't have money, big deficit, our economy is crumbling. What do we do? Also Head of Germany: Let's pay billions to migrants for free!
@@k.umquat8604 Labour by paying bilions to migrants who don't want to work? It doesn't work like that. It's socialism for foreigners paid by German citizens who do. It's fucking trash
Germany can still debt spend, just in limited amounts. Opposing mass debt is what's prevented Germany from going the way of Greece. Do you think the money comes out of thin air?
@grafity1749 that is not true and a naked authoritarian argument. Germany's economy is struggling because it implemented crippling policies. The latest of which was closing down its nuclear power plants then sanctioning Russia, causing its energy costs to skyrocket. Pretty important for an industrial economy. But I'm sure doubling up on failed policies will lead to prosperity. Countries always stop debt spending right before success. Trust.
@@Pan_Z Funny you obv have no idea about how debts work neither how gemran debt break works or even how greece failed with their debt situation. You are missinformed in all 3 aspects + you dont know vwl and even all of this you still have an opinion? Huge problem of democracy is people like you ngl. EDIT: and your second commend gets even worse displaying a complete lack of kowledge about the german energy grid and economy lmao.
@@Pan_Z What he said is true, according to international standards, Germany spends too little, so the debt break is counterproductive. Closing down nuclear power plants was a mistake, but only because of the lack of alternatives, like hydroelectric power plant. The primary reason for the current situation aren't new policies, but rather the opposite. There is a lack in investment and degradation of Bureaucracy.
EU needs to step up it's lobbying game in Washington. Trump made a number of U turns and the most noticeable one is with electric cars since Elon got involved.
LMAO. Conservatives after 2000 years of conservatism: ThE LEFtIEs HAvE tAkEN ovER QuICK wE NEeD CoNSeRvaTiVE rEVOLuTIOOOONN WUAAAAAAH THE WORLD IS GOIND UNDER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SAY FOR 4 YEARS WUAAAAH. FFS you people are cringe af.
Conservatives haven’t conserved anything over the last 80 years. CDU will ally itself with SPD/Greens instead of forming an alliance of the right with AfD.
@@Jan12700, "need to be" for ideological reasons? Germany is spending more than 40 bn. € to (mostly illegal) migration, which is almost as high as it is spending on regular defense. If only the politicians would do their job, there would be enough budget without new debts.
Greens and SPD didn't even want to talk about FDP concepts and only wanted to take more debts. Lindner refused to and was sacked. The personal insults Scholz made about Lindner in the aftermath show, what a catrastophal leader Scholz is.
Totally wrong, stop spouting propaganda. Lindner refused every kind of real cooperation right from the start, because he's a CDU lackey and just was there to sabotage the Greens and the SPD so the CDU can look good in the next election. Every problem Germany has is because of the CDU. The only reason why the CDU can finance their programs without taking on new debts (btw taking more debts in times of need is totally normal) is because Merz will sell a bit of Germany to his satanist buddies at Blackrock. How about you start living in the real world instead of pretending to be important without ever having been important, little conservative idealogy drone?
@prof.cuthbertbinns8088 Wrong again. Stop spouting pro**ganda. My comment on your original post was deleted as will this one probably because I'm right and this channel revealed itself to be a conservative mouth piece with this wrong framing :) Taking on new debts is totally normal, especially in unprecedented times like these (20 years of missed investments in infra structure, pandemic, war in europe, climate problems). If there is any reason and time to take on new debt (for example from 60% to 80%) than it is now. Lindner showed everyone by refusing that he was there to make the Greens and SPD look bad right from the get go, because people aren't allowed to realize that it is not just the CDU that can "solve" problems. Everyone but the CDU and whoever the CDU appoints as their minion has to look incompetent so people just keep on voting for conservatives and their irrational policies.
@@luis15317 Taking new debts is against the coalition contract. Luckily, the time of red-green economy-destruction is over soon. Scholz and Habeck are bankrupt, they have no solutions for Germany, and don't even want to debate rational ideas.
i find Lindner to be in the right on this. creating debt is not a good idea. Germany is bleeding money, one must see what costs are a must, what costs are justified and what costs are ideologically driven. right now, ideologies have no place here. Europe is giving its wealth away to ungrateful peoples instead of focusing inwards to find a more stable solution.
Yeah well in Germany there was literally no money for anything. Difficult times justify a bit more spending and this is most certainly a difficult time with Russia knocking at our borders
To be honest, this couldn't come at a better time for Europe. Now Germany can come out of the paralyzed non-functioning government and install a healthy conservative government suited to face the harsh economic problems and also take again leadership of the EU, that must ASAP be transformed to the United States of Europe.
Depends how the votes are going. The government was quite dysfunctional though, yeah. But the conservative party most likely to win, will stand against similar problems and they don't have a proper plan either. I am curious how it goes, but I would bet on SPD and CDU making a coalition next after the next vote
@@lilithsmolinski4563 Probably CDU/CSU + SPD + FDP (if the latter >5%). And CDU/CSU can always force these parties by blackmailing to go with AfD (who BTW are not governable at any level, let alone the vast political distance to general parties).
@@Jurjen. Interesting, I disagree though on FDP being a viable option. CDU has to think about how to actually solve problems when in the government and while I already cannot believe them getting over 5%, I think CDU does want to get more credits (or take away social money, but I doubt anyone likes that). CDU also already said they don't co-operate with the Afd so there is not really a threat...same with BSW, they also hate the greens which means SPD and CDU are the most comfortable option. But hey, sometimes stuff happens and it's not so easy
@@lilithsmolinski4563 Yeah, but CDU/CSU + SPD is not >50%, so they'll have to take in FDP or find another partner for a majority. And CDU did indeed say they'd not go with AfD but if any formation of a majority government fails, political opportunity will force an alliance with AfD, or the SPD will have to back down on their political demands. That's how it's played 🙃
@Jurjen. They won't need 50% though, because a lot of votes go lost under 5% as people tend to go for smaller parties these days, especially oft the FDP doesn't get 5%
Considering there have been only other two since 2000, that is basically asking which is better and which is worse between Scholz, Merkel, and Schröder. And one of these is widely considered a Putin apologist and a russophile, while another is widely considered as one of the biggest political titans of her time and had the second longest chancellorship in german democratic history. I'm not a German, but I don't think it is too far-fetched to say that Scholz is in-between the other 21st century German chancellors so far.
Considering there have been only other two since 2000, that is basically asking which is better and which is worse between Scholz, Merkel, and Schröder. And one of these is widely considered a Putin apologist and a russophile, while another is widely considered as one of the biggest political titans of her time and had the second longest chancellorship in german democratic history. I'm not a German, but I don't think it is too far-fetched to say that Scholz is in-between the other 21st century German chancellors so far.
In my opinion, the worst chancellor was Merkel. She was the person who screwed the country, but got away with it, because Germany had cheap gas, which was basically a cheat code, but also a ticking bomb. She's the reason for the radicalization, because a "right" government opening borders and shutting down nuclear power plants is not perceived as right enough, and people started voting for more radical crap. She was the reason for Germany's dependence on Russian gas and consequently the war, for inefficient and weak policies that led to the current situation not only on the national, but also the European level. She's the reason Germany doesn't have an army, she's the reason Orban was getting away with the bs he was doing, she and her party are the reason that there was no infrastructure investment, but now Scholz is guilty of being unable to fix the country he inherited from her in just a couple of years while having to deal with an FDP member in his coalition.
@@georgescustefan8705 In 1933 the Zentrumspartei (a precursor to the modern CDU) voted together with the NSDAP (extremist party like the AfD) of Hitler to bring into law the enabling law. This solidified Hitler's power.
It won't happen, not hating on the AfD is like the biggest political taboo in germany right now. And putting them on par with the NS is just ridiculous. They are not.
The heating law was not the problem. Many European countries have the same law (e.g. in Austria and Scandinavia). The problem was the failed communication and the back and forth surrounding it.
No clue how others having similar laws is relevant? In Poland you can buy blackpowder firearms without any premissions - would push towards same approach would be welcomed in Germany? I don't think so. And pushing for anything that will put more stress on people budget during times of worsening economical situation is always unpopular.
@ It is relevant because it does not really put a lot of stress on individual budgets but people claimed it did and the initial plan would have. But of course in the long run replacing gas heatings with remote heat or heat pumps is cheaper and should be consensus. I think it was mainly the Russian propaganda victims that went crazy.
Despite all the unprofessional insults from Scholz, Lindner still offered him an opportunity to work together, on the condition that the Chancellor confirms the need for reelections with a no-confidence vote.
Lindner deserves it. All year long, and even last year, he behaved like a little child who didn't get what he wanted, then thrown himself on the ground and starts crying and screaming.
Taking on new debts is totally normal, especially in unprecedented times like these (20 years of missed investments in infra structure, pandemic, war in europe, climate problems). If there is any reason and time to take on new debt (for example from 60% to 80%) than it is now. Lindner showed everyone by refusing that he was there to make the Greens and SPD look bad right from the get go, because people aren't allowed to realize that it is not just the CDU that can "solve" problems. Everyone but the CDU and whoever the CDU appoints as their minion has to look incompetent so people just keep on voting for conservatives and their irrational and selfcentered policies.
@@soundscape26funny how u guys judge USA when ur whole country will be overrun by muslim. They breed like crazy. At least in USA we getting rid of our illegal.
The FDP/Linder is carbrained. They want cars literally everywhere. Making cities even more carcentric, whilst not giving one single cr*p abt public transit nor walkable infrastructure. Lobbyism at its peak.
If CDU is stupid enough to publicly say they'll work with the AfD, they'll lose a massive share of their voters to the AfD. So if they are smart, they won't do that. In which case AfD will stay around 15%-ish, maybe 20%. And if the CDU is really smart, they'll solve the immigration issue effectively taking away the AfD's only issue and thereby their voters.
As a german i must say that the SPD and the Grüne aren't truly left anymore. SPD has had more centristic goals in the last ten years and the Grüne are slowly letting go of what mattered to them (the climate) for a ergonomic Standpoint that fuels the economy. Sorry for my grammatical Errors
Spoken like a supporter of Die Linke. If anything, it's the opposite. The idea that this SPD would be able to moderate enough to work with the CDU is a fantasy.
We Germans have a saying " Wer hat uns verraten? Die sozial Demokraten!" Which relays the message that in its Beginning Stages SPD was left, but have after a while swayed from seeing the importance of the workers that dont earn alot. Also i dont support die Linke :p@@Pan_Z
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Why? You're obviously already sponsored by conservatives. The wrong framing just proved that :)
and what about reacent elections in Lithuania???
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europe needs to find its own path, rather than following USA blindly
You love USA only when Obama or Biden are in power stop being a hypocrite
Check yr position who you are before posting? you lost WWII? did you remember this? if you do not follow America, what will gonna happen?
They already forgot that if not for US the whole Germany would’ve been Soviet and have the same GDP as Poland after 1991
@@dachochiyo3992 are you suggesting Germany will fall to Nazism if they stop being America’s lap dog?
@@garedmorort This isnt about WW2or the Cold War, its about Europe becoming less dependent on the US during modern times.
Bulgaria be like: I knew that the trend would eventually caught up.
Ironically currently one of the only stable nations is Italy, which is famose to not be stable 😅😅😭
@@97Corvi Two Melons perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@@97Corvi um.. I don't think that would last for long
@@97Corvithe Netherlands is still going strong!
bulgaria being a trendsetter is a first for me a as a bulgarian
In these times, Europe needs to work more together!
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Great job getting this out so fast
There is a bit of a mistake in the video.
The procedure explained in the video is actually the vote of confidence / confidence question (Vertrauensfrage).
There is a separate constructive vote of no-confidence (konstruktives Misstrauensvotum), where the Bundestag can put forward a new chancellor and vote that person in.
I am curious if Merz will decide to call that if Scholz continues to refuse to call a confidence vote, since it will require working together with the AFD to set up a plan where a person gets made chancellor and then immediately calls a confidence question on purpose to trigger elections faster.
Whatever germany is in Recession
Merz may not have a majority for such a vote, unless he comes to terms with the SPD (which would have to vote down their own chancellor to make this happen). Instead he wants early elections to gain more seats. Regardless, he will likely require the SPD again to form the next government. He will have to move, if he wants to form a stable government.
Do you think the CDU could ally with the AfD after a hypothetical election?
@@davideamato1007 Not with Merz
I feel like you should've mentioned the FDP's transport minister Wissing's move to leave his party and stay in government.
I'm glad to see more support for a united Europe. People are starting to wake up 🙏🙏
Great job! You not only make it simple but also fun to watch. However, die original was already excellent.
It needs to hurt before we learn. I’m 100% sure Germany and the rest of EU will evolve and become bigger, greater and more respected. We need to change the treaty , so we can stop the stupid veto rules. 🇪🇺
That’s hard to believe with trump now as president Germany will be hit the hardest
It will not happen, the future is not bright, we are a dying continent
Sholtz himself must step down he is nonsense a puppet😮
But countries are going to veto removing the veto...
You can't remove the Veto without making EU a federation. Why would or should a country give their Vero if the EU is a hostile environment. Without an elected leader, a full authority parliament, removed borders, common foreign-immigration-energy policies and a common army this cannot happen.
The speaker's pronunciation of German names is great! I couldn't help noticing it.
German is definitely his Native Language.
He is a German.
I don't think you can pronounce these names like this otherwise. I would at least be surprised.
@@eliasvonbrillehe’s Dutch actually, but it’s close!
Well they dont call the Dutch "Swamp Germans" for no reason.@@jeremylarsen6072
@@jeremylarsen6072 Same thing 🙃
@@eliasvonbrille He's Dutch. So, probably speaks German too!
One thing, while Germany is TECHNICALLY in recession it's not called thst way in proper economical terms. Changes so small, below 0,5%, either negative or positive are called stagnation and German economy is stagnating due to that.
Calling it a full on recession gives wrong idea about real state of German economy which isn't in the best shape but it's doesn't deserve to be called horrible either.
Europe is the only one losing here by arguing over differences instead of coming together to stand up to China and the USA.
Securing Ukraine should be the EU first concern.
China isn't too much of an issue as Russia is right now
Nor USA or china is current problem for EU . It's Russia
@@bgcvetansecured the border
What did china do in germany recession😂
Excellent video.
I'm pretty sure the "break" is actually "brake", like braking an auto.
The CDU's call for earlier vote leaves me the impression that they won't cooperate on a budget agreement, as this would give SPD opportunity to earn back votes before March and retain more seats. If they don't have to give them that, would they?
The SPD isn't gaining much votes regardless, they've been at around the same level (15/16%) the whole year
This is already part of Scholz's election campaign; if Merz doesn't address it, he should be seen as irresponsible and not statesmanlike. If Merz does, on the other hand, Scholz can present himself as a capable negotiator.
@@SSJG2"retain seats", I said. Their ability to gain back votes is pretty much limited to that. That's pretty much what I stated.
As a student who is trying to understand EU politics, this video is great.
Self inflicted crisis.
The budget negotiations could become quite tricky. I have no idea how Scholz intends to hold out until January.
"become"?! They have been tricky all the time. That is why the government tried to creatively repurpose positions from previous budgets ...
Es nützt nichts davon. Nur Schaden.
Es nützt nichts davon. Nur Schaden.
Es nützt nichts davon. Nur Schaden.
It’s called democracy in action. No big deal.
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EU is a cancer that is destroying our beautiful continent and cultures.
What about reacent elections in Lithuania???
I think they did a live stream about that.
They don't care about our region.
Only interested in western, core EU
It seemed almost inevitable at this point
Wonderful video.
Zelensky is like, can you still send me money?
well... with no money, Russia wins and sells us gas and oil and much higher prices for helping Ukraine. if we help Ukraine, we send a message that no country has the right to go back on its word of respecting another country's borders. else we might as well through East Europe under the bus and mind our own business.
also, sending money to Ukraine is least of our financial issues. sure, it is substantial, but we are getting taken for fools by the "human rights" shtick and immigrants keep comming to us for free benefits while we leave our own to freeze during winter or starve. look at the mayor of London, calling for free public transporation, but only for immigrants, not for eveyone. who pays for that? the british people, of course. but he does not care, he is a pakistani first, and a politician second. maybe a british somewhere in the 31st place on that list. Europe is generous with its money towards immigrants of totally different cultural backgrounds and ambitions, but ppl point fingers only towards money spent for our protection and our solidarity with our neighbors and possibly future allies. i find that weird.
Germany too poor for that shit
@@Lucas-wn5wmnahh, we have always enough money for other European countries that are against russia and for Israel, even if we can't pay our own hospitals and streets
Zelensky isn’t the issue
Would your LEADER not beg for money & weapons to protect its existence against someone like Russia?
Es nützt nichts davon. Nur Schaden.
From Bulgaria: Welcome to the club boys
Why has sholtz need to be removed does the US dictate what politics need to be in europe????? Since when??!!!
One thing that should be mensioned is that in the beginning moths of the coalition there was a lot of hope and also a huge effort from every party to make the coalition work. Then in feb 2022 it went south.
Olaf didn't want to deal with Trump 😂😂
Actually no basically he fired some impottand figure, olaf wanted to send 250 billion to ukraine so he said no and got fired tbh i wouldve done the same Thing Ukraine dosent care about us anyway
Germany's most pressing issue: too much CO2 in the atmosphere
(.... NOT)
I dont get the "cut tax" vs "no more debt" contradiction. Cutting corporate taxes, effectively increases debt. Was this an inherent conflict of economic ideologies or politics?
Yes as one do not want to increase German debt above their limit. Cutting taxes while increasing spending = increasing debt
@@inteallsviktigt I meant the FDP is proposing what I would rather call a libeterian approach, smaller Fiscal Spending, allowing the Free Market to revive by itself, While the SPD side wants follow rather their Keynsian approach of more direct influence.
So both will immediately increase the debts,one by spending, one by decreasing Goverment income. This is the contradiction I see in their arguments. No one is decreasing debt in the long run.
@ well not quite as the German have kept their debt in check and have been about 50-60% of GDP since WW2. FDP wants to invest in the economy but lower tax revenues.
SPD do not want to increase the debt more than 3% of GDP/ or government deficit. As its irresponsible in their eyes to spend more than you actually have
😆🤣🤣😆 I hope you are joking
@@inteallsviktigt both wrong. Neither of you understood it. Lindner refuses to take on debt. That would be legally possible, even though it is sometimes claimed otherwise (the explanation would be too long).
At the same time, the FDP (which is now its only purpose) does not want to increase taxes.
This means that they want a Social Democratic Chancellor to cut social benefits and the Greens cannot finance their climate protection.
If he had been left alone, the Greens and SPD would no longer have had to show up to their voters - and tip from me: the people on the street would also have asked what the Ukraine crap was all about
It's joever, I'm moving to Antartica
Another brick out of the EU wall. Europe heading back to the EEC?
Question is, could Sholtz now gain enough votes to pass budget, which is precondition to limp till regular election term?
Very unlikely:
The Left and their split off party BSW don’t offer enough votes
The AfD would never support this government and Scholz wouldn’t want their support anyway
The FDP just left the government. One of their ministers actually left the party of this and remains in government, so maybe Scholz could hope for a couple more defectors from their ranks but not enough for a majority
And CDU/CSU, as mentioned in the video, want new elections asap, so they wouldn’t cooperate either or only for extreme concessions, which Scholz probably wouldn’t agree to
No, he won't.
It is not. You are allowed to stay without a budget. Misinformation in the video
Translation is funny, thank you for the Mühe, to translate "Matt" with weak. 6:04
FDP absurdly pretends that *this time* austerity will work, even though it *always* results in economic ruin.
How does only the chencellor have the power to call a mo confidence vote on himself? I thought the point of a no confidence vote is that they’d be won by the opposition!
It's a quirk of the german system. What the opposition could do though is to present a new candidate for chancellor and vote that person in. The results of that would be either a new chancellor or the old one stays in power. This happened back in the 80s when Kohl was voted in and Schmidt out. After that Kohl did a no confidence vote to hold new elections.
In Germany there are two Votes. The one you are talking about and the other that the chencellor can start.
Okay interesting, that’s kinda limiting though if opposition can’t trigger a no confidence vote that triggers and election, and instead they need to propose a new chancellor.
Yes that is the trade off. There is reasoning behind that tho: It’s easy to agree that the current government is bad and vote it out but if the opposition can’t agree on who should govern instead, it just leaves the country leaderless. They are supposed to agree on something new before kicking the old one out.
Whenever there is something strange in Germanys politics system, there is a good chance that it is a lesson from the Weimar Republic and that is the case here: In the 1920/30s extreme and fringe parties were able to stop moderate governments from ruling effectively without presenting an alternative with a chance to get a majority. It was purely destructive and that is meant to be prevented by the need to elect someone new instead of simply voting the current guy out.
Introduction sentence is perfect😂
All of this would make want to vote for FDP if I was German
Hahahahahaha.
No. Definitely not. The FDP is the main reason, why the whole coalition is so hated in Germany and all over Europe. It was always the FDP who blocked reforms at the EU-level.
@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204 That is exactly why
@@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204 I think the same, many from my point of view useful measures the coalition wanted to take were blocked by the FDP
@@matiKRK ok and why do you think that this is a good thing? Because the FDP did not simply just say "no". During the negotiations they would often say "well, we have some doubts about it but we let it pass" and when it came down to the vote, they simply blocked and said no. If your doubts are so strong, then just be transparent about it that you won't agree in passing the legislation. Why should you waste anyone's time by saying we let it pass and then showing your true colors just at the end of the month-long legislation procedures? This is not how you gain trust, this is how you destroy the trust of your partners. And they did that not just domestically, but also at the EU-level, destroying Germany's reputation as a reliable and serious partner.
@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204 they seem to be the only german party that has fiscally responsible policies and stopped the worst of the German left-wing coalition laws. It actually has a good plan and are not as conservative and populist as AfD. They just seem great overall, the only issue is that they seem to have too low support to form the government or be the dominant force in a coalition and I would not want them to be in a coalition with fiscally left wing parties.
Endlich ist dieser Lumpenverein weg
Germany economy depends on vw Audi Mercedes why they want to close vw make no sense don’t close industry because you will end like Greece work work work
They dont want to close VW? VW reduced jobs due to them being in a crisis. Their crisis doesn't have anything to do with the government but instead their own continuous lying and bullshitting (Abgasskandal) as well as bad management. Bad management and lower returns is mostly them first not focussing on electronic cars and then too much and also being disadvantaged compared to Chinese state funded automotive firms.
If you don't want to close Volkswagen plants then don't ban combustion engines. Volkswagen cant't survive building EVs nobody is buying.
Bickering kids 😂
8:32 France
Can't these two collaborate with Die Linke in order to pass the budget?
1. Die Linke is split into some remnants and the BSW.
2. Even if die Linke was still united, there would be no majority. Without the CDU or FDP there is no majority possible, ignoring the right-wing AfD.
@@ioeuropaganymedkallisto7204 why ignoring them, I heard that they become the most powerful party , maybe several months ago?
I mean, since then I seldom read news about AFD and I’m curious about their trends now, can you say a few words cause I find that the video maker haven’t made any video😂😊
Remember when F President and G Chancellor were the "leaders" of Europe?
Yeah past. Now it's Polish Prime Minister
@@Czeslaw370😂😂😂
Thanks God that's the past 🤣🤣🤣
@@Czeslaw370nie wiem co ty bierzesz ale daj namiary bo jak widać kopie mocno
Germany for Germans
When is someone German? And when does a migrant stop being a migrant?
You say that as if Germany doesn't belong to Germans. Did I miss the invasion?
What's the advantage of that? Besides there are also plenty of Germans living abroad in case you forgot.
@@lilithsmolinski4563 he is just quoting Hitler, don't take him seriously. The AfD will remain ostracized from political responsibility, und das ist auch gut so.
@@lilithsmolinski4563 Yeah you missed it. Go anywhere in a city in West-Europe
The US: My turn
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Das kann wirklich nur ein Amerikaner sagen😂
I'm German 🇩🇪
You are so dumb😅
@@realmasked_9😂germany
No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@GerardBoer Why Not?
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FFS Define collapse. Click bait .
The Trump effect is fully in play😂😂😂
Sooo...
*Round 3?-*
Meanwhile Sachsen: All Bitcoin sold 😎
Trump was probably like "Did I just break Germany?" 😂
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Afd now 2nd most popular party in Germany
Wrong. Democratic parties 80%, afd 20%.
@@miersdelika5016 How on Earth are you counting Die Linke as a Democratic party? And at the same time NOT counting the AfD as one? Can you read? Do you know history?
AFD is authoritarian democratic, edicate yourself. @@miersdelika5016
Look at any poll and you‘ll see it‘s not true.
@@peterfireflylund, cuz he is an anti-democratic guy that tries to exclude or include for ideologic reasons. The numbers are clear: the AfD is rising in the polls and they will be one of the three winners in the next election, no matter if far-left extremists accept that.
Outrageous AI slop.
Bulgaria is the og🤣
People genuinely think the problem is Germany (and the EU) haven't gone extreme enough. Using logic that defies reason, what Germany really needs is more debt, more state, and to transfer more power to the EU. Doubling up on failed policies will surely bring success this time.
From the comments, I'm understanding why Germany is in such dire circumstances. People will collapse their country before they admit the direction the country is heading in is wrong.
more power to the EU? more debt? these are bad policies, mate. what makes you think they would be good for Germany?
Why, they seem to be quite useful. The ressources are there, but more centralisation will make use of them better. The only problem are nationalistic ideas
@@ragael1024 Was sarcasm, good sir.
What are you all yapping about debt? No one cares about debt lest where it comes from. It's just a neoliberal myth to keep down the middle and lower class. It doesn't matter if an economy has a debt of 60% or 67%. The 60% is just a made up number by the EU.
Of course you need to use debt wisely. Senseless investing is harmful to the economy, allowing tax cuts by taking on debt allows the economy to breath and further productivity.
This is germany we are speaking about lol. The same country tht not only faced debt from ww1 but was heavily subsidized under the Marshall act by the usa and other countries involved in spurring the economy back up.
They are debt adverse just because of what happened to them in the past
But they all love yahhoo ! sinking the European project
Lmao first Ireland now Germany
But Ireland isn't that important for Europe than Germany
@ it’s still is a big deal since since it’s a European country
@@hardatak Of course, but not as relevant as Germany
Germany wanted to see a regime change in Russia. Russia ended up seeing a regime change in Germany.
monthly income for assembly line work at mercedes: 2.400€
monthly income for assembly line work at volkswagen: 4.500€
20,2% of VW belongs to the federal state of lower saxony with so to say full power over decisions in VW. they prefer to prioritize overpaid earnings for their coworkers, than keeping VW competitive. despite only 20,2% shares, the red-green government (since 2014) is in the power of the blocking minority. instead of letting VW act, they are holding the managers accountable for the crisis now, although there were many attempts in the last months and years to change for the better, but were denied by the red-green party's minority block
:D would be funny if it was a joke
It's fine because government pays for it with taxes tht the white collar workers pay to make things equal
I think it might be helpful to always put some information under the parties at bar charts.
E.G. at 0:52: Union socially conservative/pro business/pro ukraine; SPD socially moderate/pro worker/pro ukraine; AfD socially reactionary/pro business/pro russia; FDP socially progressive/pro business/Pro Ukraine; Linke socially progressive/pro worker/pro russia; Grüne socially progressive/pro worker/pro ukraine; BSW socially conservative/pro worker/pro russia
OR
Union SPD AFD FDP Linke Grüne BSW
Pro Worker: - - + + - - - - - - + + + + + + +
Pro Ukraine: + + + + - - - + + - - + + + - - -
Pro Tradition: + + - + + + + - - - - - +
You could use party manifesto or chapel hill expert survey as sources.
I think it is rather difficult to otherwise undersand, what coalitions might be possible and why it may take months to form a coalition.
will CDU embrace AFD or work with spd
It will without the shadow of a doubt form a coalition with SPD and perhaps the greens💀. Cuckservatives at it again.
Austrian here. No offense but your framing of this issue seems a little uninformed. Lindner had to go. If you think Germany is a paralyzed nation until the vote of no confidence, then you haven't paid attention in the last 3 years. Lindner sabotaged and held back the government for years. This should have been done sooner, not later. And it's not a coincidence that it happened right now after the US election. It's precisely because of the US election that Scholz did this in order to re-establish the ability to act of the German government. It was a much needed move and the only logical conclusion. And it was quite courageous from Scholz and even though I'm not a big fan of his, I think he should be applauded and praised for this bold move.
This is such weird framing 3:38 forgetting all the times lindner broke coalition promises After it being already in Theke coalition contract and publicly announced.
*their
It's because this channel is a conservative propaganda channel.
This is incorrect. By just looking at the numbers, the coalition was not as bad and even completed or begun two thirds of their contract promises.
However, Greens and SPD demanded Lindner to break the coalition contract, in which it was made very clear,.that the "Schuldenbremse" should stay.
Way too often, Lindner broke his own promises to his voters and against his will supported projects of SPD and Greens. Scholz new he wouldn't accept this one more insult. I think, Scholz planned this to gain public support by presenting the public a "Sündenbock", a person they could blame for their weak economy/finance politics.
However important economy reforms were blocked by Habeck and Scholz
@@prof.cuthbertbinns8088 Wrong again. Stop spouting prop*ganda. My comment on your original post was deleted as will this one probably because I'm right and this channel revealed itself to be a conservative mouth piece with this wrong framing :) Taking on new debts is totally normal, especially in unprecedented times like these (20 years of missed investments in infra structure, pandemic, war in europe, climate problems). If there is any reason and time to take on new debt (for example from 60% to 80%) than it is now. Lindner showed everyone by refusing that he was there to make the Greens and SPD look bad right from the get go, because people aren't allowed to realize that it is not just the CDU that can "solve" problems. Everyone but the CDU and whoever the CDU appoints as their minion has to look incompetent so people just keep on voting for conservatives and their irrational and selfcentered policies.
Agreed ,this makes it seem more like habeck was the one who caused the collapse, when his party really wanted to keep the government together the most. Its also worth mentioning how cynically the FDP was colluding with the yellow press to destabilise their own coalition.
I really dont think a CDU SPD coalition is as likely as it used to be, the last few years have been marked by increasingly tense differences in ideology as the CDU aims to return from its at times uncharacteristically left wing, and green policies to the more center-right policies which used to be the core of the party. Simulatneously the SPD has experienced a much more left-wing drift in its ideology which makes the two parties increasingly incompatible. Really an FDP-Green-CDU, or the Jamaica Coalition seems much more likely, despite those three parties differences as it seems unlikely that the CDU and FDP will be able to secure a coalition on their own. The CDU and FDP essepcially wont want to work together with the SPD. And so whilst not at all popular amongst voters for either the CDU or FDP the Greens are just about the only option for coalition partners given that all the old mainstream parties, SPD, CDU, FDP and Greens have a blanket refusal to work together with the AFD or BSW on the federal level.
What bs are you talking dude, FDP wont even be in the parlament. Its like last time the fdp was in goverment.
AND in addition, no the ydidnt refuse to work with BSW, BSW refused to work with them. Holy are you uninformed.
I honestly can't imagine the greens and fdp being in the same coalition without that coalition becoming disfunctional. They are, from their ideological core, just to different.
@@lemmyboy4107 Thats not really true? Whilst CDU politicians have shown some willingness to work together on a local level the coalition negotiations failed due to irreconsilable ideological differences, and the CDU membership as a whole is staunchly against a coalition with the BSW which doesnt make a coalitíon entirely impossible, but very unlikely.
Also whilst the FDP definately has massively lost in support in more recent polls it has been able to reach just about the 5% barrier, and with the coalition now dead i am generally confident it will be able to maintain that level. Also 5% isnt the only way to get into parliament. If you get a direct mandate you are also guaranteed to be seated in parliament with the fraction of votes you got even if that is below 5%. This is the same way that Die Linke Managed to be represented in the current bundestag despite having only around 4%.
@@vmycode5142 They literally wanted to work with BSW on state level and only the bsw stopped the talk not the cdu. Inform yourself, or keep quiet!
Also prove it to me which Direktmandate should the FDP get? Linke is pretty clear which they could get.
@@lemmyboy4107 I aknowledged that the CDU was willing to work together with the BSW, but i dont think that this is at all relevant to the federal level since i believe there is much more apprehension to working with parties on the federal level compared to the state level. And the exact failure to form a coalition with the BSW is likely to only reduce further willingnes of the CDU to try so in the future. Id agree that it is not at all certain the FDP would get a direct mandate, but given that the FW who nominally polls beneath the FDP was able to secure one direct mandate in Saxony shows that the possibility shouldnt be entirely discounted. Additionally I do generally believe that with the coalition being over the FDP may be able to secure the 1% additional national support it needs to ensure it enters the Bundestag. Also maybe stop being such a rude piece of work.
Federalize the EU now !
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Hell, it probably wouldn’t be so bad. We need a radical change, something outside of the box if you will 😉⚡️⚡️
You smoke cheapy!
Why does he wait non- confidence vote for January. It is obvious that he is gonna lose, it is just waisting time. It’d be better to have early election and have coalition in early next year when Trump starts govern.
Maybe because organizing elections is not a kid's play and requires time. It's literally impossible to get done until January 5 (the next possible election day) and people are on holidays in December and January, so it's just your typical CDU/AfD populist rhetoric with no substance behind it.
The SPD argued today, that due to the Christmas break it would be logistically impossible to schedule reelections in January and instead they wan't to work together with the CDU to work on next year's finances and then move to reelections in March. For the stability of the country though, earlier reelections would probably be better.
I think it’s better to finish up the most pressing decisions before plunging the country fully into provisional government territory for a potentially very long time. After all, they’ll need months to form a new coalition, and success is not guaranteed.
@@snan275, the SPD is creative in searching for a reason. History tells us that elections (Landtagswahlen) in January were doable.
He wants to stay in power or as long as possible.
We had enough, Scholz out, Merz in. This is Conservative Counter-Revolution.
LMAO. Conservatives after 2000 years of conservatism: ThE LEFtIEs HAvE tAkEN ovER QuICK wE NEeD CoNSeRvaTiVE rEVOLuTIOOOONN WUAAAAAAH THE WORLD IS GOIND UNDER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SAY FOR 4 YEARS WUAAAAH. FFS you people are cringe af.
Jokes on you, conservatives will never have enough votes so they will most likely go into coalition with the SPD. Maybe not Scholz though
@@Otto_42 I mean, Scholz might go, but I am pretty sure the SPD stays
@Otto_42
I would be very quiet of If I had the Reichskriegsflagge as my profile picture... 😶❗
Let's just hope the CDU recognizes the urgency of the threats we face on the international stage and the necessity of greater cooperation with the Europeans partners. I am surprised Germany has such a short memory of how painful it is to be split: They should know better than anyone else!
Scholz getting boot is best news in years, can’t wait for him to finally leave and be nothing more then memory of worst chancellor ever, utter failure and disgrace
incredible how SPD even led him take the lead when he was mired in scandals for years before, even more incredible that his title of worst chancellor of all time might well immediately taken over by Blackrock's Friedrich Merz, who will bleed the German middle class dry unapologetically. Way to waste away one of the most impressive post-war countries in the west.
Maybe someone besides Germany should provide that leadership
@@SputnikRX but who?
Bro, europe sucks..
Polling AFD at only 17% seems a bit off, they are more likely at 18-19% and with Trump winning in the US might see them grow to above 20% again.
No, they are widely unpopular in most parts of germany.
The AFD only has success in the former east germany.
Trump winning could go either way. It could be as you say, but people could also become more wary of right wing partys and the AFDs popularity might go even more down.
One vote from me. 💪
No, since BSW got formed, many leftist conservatives move their vote to them. Before, many leftist conservatives in the east voted for AfD. But they are not needed anymore.
Doesn't matter does it, if all other parties already say they won't work with them out of political principle, they'll just go down in the polls again because it will feel like a wasted vote. Now, if the CDU says something like "We might be able to work with them", they'll probably become the biggest party. That's what happened in the Netherlands.
@@LontEnCaras yeah and why are they unpopular? because of the constant brain washing by the left goverment...
CDU is Better Fisher they didn’t have this economy problem with cdu
Of course they did, all the long-term problems are mostly CDU's fault. They were in power for 16 years.
@ no you wrong with fisher cdu was never a economic problem you as polish don’t know anything
Head of Germany: Hmm... we don't have money, big deficit, our economy is crumbling. What do we do?
Also Head of Germany: Let's pay billions to migrants for free!
This is one of the many problems we have.
Immigrants, the perfect scapegoats for Germany's economic problems
They need the labor... Germany doesn't have enough young people
@@k.umquat8604 Labour by paying bilions to migrants who don't want to work? It doesn't work like that. It's socialism for foreigners paid by German citizens who do. It's fucking trash
@@k.umquat8604Germany needs workers and not freeloaders!
CDU + AFD
Not gonna happen
Wenn die AFD regiert, ist Deutschland und Europa kaputt
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Literally all infrastructure crumbeling from trains, streets to the military. Opossing debt has killed germany!
Germany can still debt spend, just in limited amounts. Opposing mass debt is what's prevented Germany from going the way of Greece. Do you think the money comes out of thin air?
@Pan_Z all economist agree that germany has to invest more. Thats only achiveable with more debt
@grafity1749 that is not true and a naked authoritarian argument. Germany's economy is struggling because it implemented crippling policies. The latest of which was closing down its nuclear power plants then sanctioning Russia, causing its energy costs to skyrocket. Pretty important for an industrial economy.
But I'm sure doubling up on failed policies will lead to prosperity. Countries always stop debt spending right before success. Trust.
@@Pan_Z Funny you obv have no idea about how debts work neither how gemran debt break works or even how greece failed with their debt situation. You are missinformed in all 3 aspects + you dont know vwl and even all of this you still have an opinion? Huge problem of democracy is people like you ngl.
EDIT: and your second commend gets even worse displaying a complete lack of kowledge about the german energy grid and economy lmao.
@@Pan_Z What he said is true, according to international standards, Germany spends too little, so the debt break is counterproductive. Closing down nuclear power plants was a mistake, but only because of the lack of alternatives, like hydroelectric power plant. The primary reason for the current situation aren't new policies, but rather the opposite. There is a lack in investment and degradation of Bureaucracy.
Germany is collapsing in every sense, because of Ukraine
That process started long before the Russian invasion or the Covid pandemic.
I can tell you've never been to Germany
EU needs to step up it's lobbying game in Washington. Trump made a number of U turns and the most noticeable one is with electric cars since Elon got involved.
Good. Conservative revolution.
LMAO. Conservatives after 2000 years of conservatism: ThE LEFtIEs HAvE tAkEN ovER QuICK wE NEeD CoNSeRvaTiVE rEVOLuTIOOOONN WUAAAAAAH THE WORLD IS GOIND UNDER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A SAY FOR 4 YEARS WUAAAAH. FFS you people are cringe af.
Conservatives haven’t conserved anything over the last 80 years. CDU will ally itself with SPD/Greens instead of forming an alliance of the right with AfD.
That's an oxymoron
@@miersdelika5016 in comparison to the progressives quite the opposite, cope harder
@@soundscape26 I beg to disagree as counter revolution is just another revolution.
What is more important Ucraina or the future of Europe countrys me from Romania and dont want tu be forcet in war dying for Ucraina
Germany heading back into middle ages just to meet the climate goals
Nope, we going into the middle ages because we don't got into debt to finance projects.
Hyperbole much?
@@Jan12700, like projects that could be easily financed with the regular budget if other expenses would be cut?
@@jayfraxtea Nope, they could not be financed this way, because other projects also need to be
@@Jan12700, "need to be" for ideological reasons? Germany is spending more than 40 bn. € to (mostly illegal) migration, which is almost as high as it is spending on regular defense. If only the politicians would do their job, there would be enough budget without new debts.
Greens and SPD didn't even want to talk about FDP concepts and only wanted to take more debts. Lindner refused to and was sacked.
The personal insults Scholz made about Lindner in the aftermath show, what a catrastophal leader Scholz is.
Totally wrong, stop spouting propaganda. Lindner refused every kind of real cooperation right from the start, because he's a CDU lackey and just was there to sabotage the Greens and the SPD so the CDU can look good in the next election. Every problem Germany has is because of the CDU. The only reason why the CDU can finance their programs without taking on new debts (btw taking more debts in times of need is totally normal) is because Merz will sell a bit of Germany to his satanist buddies at Blackrock. How about you start living in the real world instead of pretending to be important without ever having been important, little conservative idealogy drone?
@prof.cuthbertbinns8088 Wrong again. Stop spouting pro**ganda. My comment on your original post was deleted as will this one probably because I'm right and this channel revealed itself to be a conservative mouth piece with this wrong framing :) Taking on new debts is totally normal, especially in unprecedented times like these (20 years of missed investments in infra structure, pandemic, war in europe, climate problems). If there is any reason and time to take on new debt (for example from 60% to 80%) than it is now. Lindner showed everyone by refusing that he was there to make the Greens and SPD look bad right from the get go, because people aren't allowed to realize that it is not just the CDU that can "solve" problems. Everyone but the CDU and whoever the CDU appoints as their minion has to look incompetent so people just keep on voting for conservatives and their irrational policies.
This statement is just plain wrong.
Of course they looked at them. But they don't correlate with the coalition papers
@@luis15317 Taking new debts is against the coalition contract.
Luckily, the time of red-green economy-destruction is over soon.
Scholz and Habeck are bankrupt, they have no solutions for Germany, and don't even want to debate rational ideas.
i find Lindner to be in the right on this. creating debt is not a good idea. Germany is bleeding money, one must see what costs are a must, what costs are justified and what costs are ideologically driven. right now, ideologies have no place here. Europe is giving its wealth away to ungrateful peoples instead of focusing inwards to find a more stable solution.
Yeah well in Germany there was literally no money for anything. Difficult times justify a bit more spending and this is most certainly a difficult time with Russia knocking at our borders
To be honest, this couldn't come at a better time for Europe. Now Germany can come out of the paralyzed non-functioning government and install a healthy conservative government suited to face the harsh economic problems and also take again leadership of the EU, that must ASAP be transformed to the United States of Europe.
Depends how the votes are going. The government was quite dysfunctional though, yeah. But the conservative party most likely to win, will stand against similar problems and they don't have a proper plan either. I am curious how it goes, but I would bet on SPD and CDU making a coalition next after the next vote
@@lilithsmolinski4563 Probably CDU/CSU + SPD + FDP (if the latter >5%). And CDU/CSU can always force these parties by blackmailing to go with AfD (who BTW are not governable at any level, let alone the vast political distance to general parties).
@@Jurjen. Interesting, I disagree though on FDP being a viable option. CDU has to think about how to actually solve problems when in the government and while I already cannot believe them getting over 5%, I think CDU does want to get more credits (or take away social money, but I doubt anyone likes that). CDU also already said they don't co-operate with the Afd so there is not really a threat...same with BSW, they also hate the greens which means SPD and CDU are the most comfortable option. But hey, sometimes stuff happens and it's not so easy
@@lilithsmolinski4563 Yeah, but CDU/CSU + SPD is not >50%, so they'll have to take in FDP or find another partner for a majority. And CDU did indeed say they'd not go with AfD but if any formation of a majority government fails, political opportunity will force an alliance with AfD, or the SPD will have to back down on their political demands. That's how it's played 🙃
@Jurjen. They won't need 50% though, because a lot of votes go lost under 5% as people tend to go for smaller parties these days, especially oft the FDP doesn't get 5%
I have a question that is dedicated to our German fellows: Would you consider Olaf being one of the worst chancellors since 2000?
Considering there have been only other two since 2000, that is basically asking which is better and which is worse between Scholz, Merkel, and Schröder. And one of these is widely considered a Putin apologist and a russophile, while another is widely considered as one of the biggest political titans of her time and had the second longest chancellorship in german democratic history. I'm not a German, but I don't think it is too far-fetched to say that Scholz is in-between the other 21st century German chancellors so far.
Considering there have been only other two since 2000, that is basically asking which is better and which is worse between Scholz, Merkel, and Schröder. And one of these is widely considered a Putin apologist and a russophile, while another is widely considered as one of the biggest political titans of her time and had the second longest chancellorship in german democratic history. I'm not a German, but I don't think it is too far-fetched to say that Scholz is in-between the other 21st century German chancellors so far.
In my opinion, the worst chancellor was Merkel. She was the person who screwed the country, but got away with it, because Germany had cheap gas, which was basically a cheat code, but also a ticking bomb. She's the reason for the radicalization, because a "right" government opening borders and shutting down nuclear power plants is not perceived as right enough, and people started voting for more radical crap. She was the reason for Germany's dependence on Russian gas and consequently the war, for inefficient and weak policies that led to the current situation not only on the national, but also the European level. She's the reason Germany doesn't have an army, she's the reason Orban was getting away with the bs he was doing, she and her party are the reason that there was no infrastructure investment, but now Scholz is guilty of being unable to fix the country he inherited from her in just a couple of years while having to deal with an FDP member in his coalition.
No, the title of worst since 2000 goes to Angela Merkel.
Nicht nur seit 2000 sondern schon seit der Gründung der Bundesrepublik Deutschland
What if CDU allies with AfD?
Similar thing already happened in the 30s. Didn't go down that well though for everybody.
@kevinkerkhoff6670 What exactly?
@@georgescustefan8705 In 1933 the Zentrumspartei (a precursor to the modern CDU) voted together with the NSDAP (extremist party like the AfD) of Hitler to bring into law the enabling law. This solidified Hitler's power.
Then the so calld "christdemocrats" have shown that they aren't much christian at all and will be judged accordingly :)
It won't happen, not hating on the AfD is like the biggest political taboo in germany right now.
And putting them on par with the NS is just ridiculous. They are not.
wait
WHAT IF FDP JOINS AFD?????
It would be great for Germany
Their economic ideas don't match, the former is super capitalistic the latter defends a heavy Government intervention on the economy
Trump winning the election and German leftist government collapsing?? OK this week was definitely one of the best politically in some months 😂
Now we need some kind of Trump in Europe...
@@sewur5034 Se had one in the thirties, ir didn't Turn out well.
@@hugo-fr2rs😂😂
It will be even better brother. This is Conservative Counter-Revolution 💙
@@hugo-fr2rs yeah yeah everyone is literally the Austrian painter, we already heard it enough, don't need to repeat it
The heating law was not the problem. Many European countries have the same law (e.g. in Austria and Scandinavia). The problem was the failed communication and the back and forth surrounding it.
No clue how others having similar laws is relevant? In Poland you can buy blackpowder firearms without any premissions - would push towards same approach would be welcomed in Germany? I don't think so.
And pushing for anything that will put more stress on people budget during times of worsening economical situation is always unpopular.
@ It is relevant because it does not really put a lot of stress on individual budgets but people claimed it did and the initial plan would have. But of course in the long run replacing gas heatings with remote heat or heat pumps is cheaper and should be consensus. I think it was mainly the Russian propaganda victims that went crazy.
@@tobiwan001 so not a lot of strees means few hounded euro extra of expenses when building new construction of few thousands?
Despite all the unprofessional insults from Scholz, Lindner still offered him an opportunity to work together, on the condition that the Chancellor confirms the need for reelections with a no-confidence vote.
Lindner deserves it. All year long, and even last year, he behaved like a little child who didn't get what he wanted, then thrown himself on the ground and starts crying and screaming.
Taking on new debts is totally normal, especially in unprecedented times like these (20 years of missed investments in infra structure, pandemic, war in europe, climate problems). If there is any reason and time to take on new debt (for example from 60% to 80%) than it is now. Lindner showed everyone by refusing that he was there to make the Greens and SPD look bad right from the get go, because people aren't allowed to realize that it is not just the CDU that can "solve" problems. Everyone but the CDU and whoever the CDU appoints as their minion has to look incompetent so people just keep on voting for conservatives and their irrational and selfcentered policies.
Lindner offered opportunity under his conditions which consists only of lobbying and Union interests
The Green Party in Germany is not "Obviously" green because, in the US, the Green Party was in Yelllow.
Thats America's problem. The green party being green is obvious.
The US also thinks red = not Socialist and Socialist = not red. They are a bit confused sometimes.
Yellow is the Libertarian Party. The US Green Party is green.
@@peterfireflylundThey also think liberalism is a leftist ideology
@@soundscape26funny how u guys judge USA when ur whole country will be overrun by muslim. They breed like crazy. At least in USA we getting rid of our illegal.
FDP ruined it, they could have modernized everything but FDP doesn't understand economics or industry
The FDP/Linder is carbrained. They want cars literally everywhere. Making cities even more carcentric, whilst not giving one single cr*p abt public transit nor walkable infrastructure. Lobbyism at its peak.
This is honestly hilarious as a Hungarian. Trump is elected, a good friend of Orbán, and the leftist german government collaapses. Absolute cinema. 🤣🤣
@@gergelyritter4412 at least we still have independent news in Estonia 😂
Orban is a fool. Which is why he's a good friend of the president of my country, Erdoğan
@@lilithsmolinski4563 You are so lucky out there...
CDU FPD and AFD coalition
Mark My Words
FDP wont get in Bundestag again XD
No, either CDU and SPD or CDU and Greens
If CDU is stupid enough to publicly say they'll work with the AfD, they'll lose a massive share of their voters to the AfD. So if they are smart, they won't do that. In which case AfD will stay around 15%-ish, maybe 20%. And if the CDU is really smart, they'll solve the immigration issue effectively taking away the AfD's only issue and thereby their voters.
Do you think AFD will go with either of them?
Now, that's just hogwash
As a german i must say that the SPD and the Grüne aren't truly left anymore. SPD has had more centristic goals in the last ten years and the Grüne are slowly letting go of what mattered to them (the climate) for a ergonomic Standpoint that fuels the economy. Sorry for my grammatical Errors
They was always trash, still they're trash.
Spoken like a supporter of Die Linke. If anything, it's the opposite. The idea that this SPD would be able to moderate enough to work with the CDU is a fantasy.
We Germans have a saying " Wer hat uns verraten? Die sozial Demokraten!" Which relays the message that in its Beginning Stages SPD was left, but have after a while swayed from seeing the importance of the workers that dont earn alot. Also i dont support die Linke :p@@Pan_Z