This worked beautifully for me. Definitely don't need to remove the top though and I just ended up soaking the rubber piece in medium warm water for about 3 minutes, then did a 20 second microwave to it and left it in for about 5 more minutes and it was golden. Tried it out just now and turned my damn hi hat back 10 years! Haven't heard the hi hat be that responsive since maybe ever. I'd imagine over 24 hours it'll become a slight bit less sensitive as it's still malleable but definitely did the trick for now. Amazing. Thanks for the tutorial! Edit: so it's been over a month and it's still working great!
Thanks so much! I had to STOMP HARD to get my pedal to trigger and this fixed it like new! However, I didn't see any reason to completely disassemble it like in this video. I just took the screws out of the bottom, and that allowed me to get to the inside without touching the pedal, spring etc. at all. Much easier and once you get that plastic casing off you can slip it off the pedal. I slathered it in Petroleum jelly, left it under a desk lamp for about 24 hours, and it was super flexible again! Felt great!
As rubber ages, it hardens. This happens when the softening chemicals called "plasticizers" bleed out. The hardening process can take years, but it can be reversed before the rubber gets so brittle that it crumbles. Plasticizers keep rubber in a pliable state for better utility. Silicone spray contains the plasticizers needed to restore hardened rubber to its original suppleness. You can also heat rubber to make it more flexible when cold temperatures have caused it to harden. Automobile window seals commonly suffer from rubber hardening. Rubber Softener 1 Spray the rubber with silicone spray. This spray can be found at any camping supply store. Spray until the rubber is soaked. Place the rubber inside an airtight, plastic bag. Use large garbage bags for big pieces of rubber. 2 Keep the rubber in the plastic bag for three to seven days. 3 Lift the bagged piece of rubber and bend it to check for pliability. Once the desired suppleness is attained, you can remove it from the bag for use. You might need to repeat this process if the rubber hasn't softened to the extent you desire. Heat 1 Heat some water in a stew pot on the stove. Heat it until boiling. 2 Set the stew pot in the sink and submerge the rubber in the water to soften it. 3 Grip the rubber with a pair of salad or canning tongs and remove it from the water. If you need to touch the rubber at this point, put on a pair of oven mitts or leather work gloves to handle it.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! This was a great video. I deviated a little from your instructions after reading some comments. The result was I didn't have to wait more than 20 minutes from start to finish and I had a working pedal. I boiled a pot of water and VERY CAREFULLY, with a spoon, dipped the petroleum coated rubber in the hot water for 5 seconds at a time. Every 5 seconds I'd take it out to check it's elasticity and make sure it wasn't melting (as some people experienced). I think I only repeated this about 2-3 times before it was ready again. USE EXTREME CAUTION when using hot water. The video recommends leaving somewhere warm over night and that's truly the safest way to go. But in the interest of time you can do it with hot water but you really have to be carful and dip it only a couple 3-5 second bursts.
The Actuator on our pedal was rock hard, you could barely bend it......we followed the instructions (covering it in petroleum jelly and sitting it on paper on top of our set-top box for heat, overnight) and now it is as bendy as a new one. I have seen another clip on TH-cam that said it didn't work.....I'm wondering if he didn't add the "heat" element? Truly amazing! Thanks.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Tried this on my 8 year old Hihat that was becoming practically unplayable. Worked perfectly. I did also wash it in warm water when I took it out of the pedal. Now, I genuinely think it's better than when it was new.
Reporting in in 2023. Your methods worked perfectly on my 10-year-old FD-8. I was skeptical, but warm water / Vaseline / microwave on the rubber actuator did the trick. Thanks very much!
I have a 11 year old FD8 and the hihat stopped working completely. I first replaced the sensor which made it at least signal again~, but still very stiff and unresponsive. After soaking it for a minute or 10 in ~60 oC water and liberally applying some petroleum jelly the pedal responds just like out of the factory. Thank you for the excellent video!
@@adonis5384 hey, You can keep the rubber flexible pretty much indefinitely with this method. I've used it for years re-elasticizing the rubber every couple of months but eventually replaced the pedal with a FD9 just for the feedback and difference in handling (it has more inertia like a real hihat pedal then the FD8). It still works fine although after it has been a couple of months in storage the rubber hardens again and it needs to be reapplied. Cleaning and covering the rubber in vaseline and putting it in the microwave for 30 seconds @ 300watt also works.
@@adonis5384 If the rubber is truly gone, you can order a replacement for like 7-8 euro/dollars from china or 20 from roland themselves (parts number C6200053R1).
That's helpful. Thanks. To complete this fix I would not completely disassemble the entire unit as it's unnecessary - unless you want to service the entire pedal (clean, lubricate etc.) For the fix, you only need to remove the square bolt with the drum key (00:20) and the seven screws (01:02) to access the rubber actuator or the sheet sensor. Thanks for the video.
Fantastic! It works! At the music store they asked me 50-60 Euros to fix it but with this video I only paid the cost of petroleum jelly (3.5 euros)! Very good work! :)
Great video. Did this with my FD-6 but the rubber was too far gone for this alone. Microwaved it for 20 seconds after leaving it over night in Vaseline and it works a treat now
I like how they took every single thing apart just to remove the rubber part... you only need to remove the bottom screws to take it out. Great tip though, I'm hoping it will work after doing this!!
You are right, the pedal part doesn't have to be removed. It worked great for me, but I got a feedback from someone else that the problem comes back after a while. Rubber needs maintenance every now and then. This could mean you have to do the procedure again. Sometimes it's simply the trigger and not the rubber. But I have no ideas where to get a spare part. I am still searching for a better way to fix the pedal. As soon as I find it, I will make a video about it. Thanks for your feedback!
There are a few videos about this out there, but this if nothing else shows the best way to take the pedal apart to get at the insides to fix it. How well the repair works seems to be debatable, but as it's essentially free I would certainly try this first before cutting the rubber part or buying a new one as in other videos.
I was also suffering from the same problem. I had to press hard with my left leg to completely silence the ringing sound. This situation both prevented me from working comfortably and strained my leg. Since silicone rubber is exposed to pressure, its volume shrinks over time and it cannot apply sufficient pressure to the pressure sensor. To fix the problem, the silicone rubber needs to be replaced. I did a little research and when I saw that a silicone part that did not even cost 1 dollar was sold for about 30 dollars on the internet, I found the solution myself without spending any money. I glued a 2mm thick plastic silicone layer to the end of the metal pedal that puts pressure on the silicone part and the problem was solved. Although heating and petroleum jelly may make the silicone work temporarily, it does not work in the long term. will return to its old self again..The next thing to do is to wash the very dirty white mesh tom and snare drum heads of my roland with laundry detergent and make them white as the first day. But damn, I don't understand why they used screws that are nowhere to be found instead of the familiar allen screws. I'll have to buy a drum key.
Hi, I'm from Brazil and my rubber pedal was also very hard, I tried to moisturize it but it was not very good .. I put it in the microwave (yes, we have microwave) for 15 seconds and it was amazing!
Works!! It's not necessary remove all those things like the guys said before. And 15 to 20 seconds on a microwave if necessary is a nice tip too!! Thanks.
Hello guys, it has been years. Did it went stiff/hard again? Just asking since Im either doing this or the slice technique. Looking for inputs. Thanks guys!
Thanks for the video, I have done this several times and after a while it reverts back to being rock hard again. I would be interested in knowing if the people below still have working pedals. Thanks.
This is not a permanent solution, as rubber does get old. You can either repeat it or just buy a replacement part. These rubber parts are available. They cost 15$.
Depends, rubber gets old after a while. And I think it is not supposed to be used for a long time. Still weird, since other Roland gear lasts forever. But Roland improved, they invented the FD-9. Check it out.
dude it worked... like omg i wanna buy you a beer. took it oitside under the sun. i live in greece. it was ready after 15 minutes. works brilliantly now. the only downside is that its a bit sticky cause of the vaseline. it will not come off completely. if you have anything to suggest about that please do.
well it was completely soft! i intended to let it there for a whole day. if that happened it would be completely melted !hhahaha. Well my only concern is that the vaseline could damage the sensor.. otherwise i can live with the sticky feeling
Thank you so much, my pedal just suddenly stopped working, and now only half an hour later, its up and running again! I didn't leave it over night obviously but it worked.. panic over.. thank you
During 11/2024, mine went inop. Boiled the rubber hammer for 5 mins, let it sit there for 5 extra mins, dried it off, put it back in and it worked fine. YAY. i really needed this to work.🙂
I have an alternative version where I cut with a very sharp knife in the rubber, have to be careful but it's instant and you have reasonable control over the flexibility at the end of the process
I did mine 2 days ago, just boiled it for a few minutes and it's fine. If it goes hard again, I'm going to leave it in silicone overnight. That will definitely sort it out.
I got an FD-8 hi hat pedal from a friend. It was working on his kit and I tried using it with my Roland HD-3 kit, but it didn't work. Are those two items supposed to work together? And if so, any idea what I need to fix on my FD-8 to make it work with the HD-3?
Keep your money! No need to change this piece in plastic. Just make nicks in the original piece to make it more flexible as detailed in this video! ToscaVlog - DIY Fixing My Drum Pedal! (By Cutting Roland FD-8 Actuator) Tested and approved!
"Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly. The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon."
I just took out the rubber actuator, popped it into the microwave for 15 seconds, and it went from hard-as-a-rock to soft and pliable again! I will let you know if this fix turns out to be temporary.
I used a slightly different method and wrapped the black rubber in electrical tape. The tape has more give over a longer period of time. 5 years into the repair and it's still going fine.
Vdrum Tips I'm looking to replace my V-Drum Hat Pedal with something like the FD-8. I've currently got an Alesis Realhat but I find there's a huge 'dead zone' when you press down the footswitch, you have to depress it about halfway before it even contacts the rubber actuator. Then there's only a small range of motion in the trigger's sensor range. Does the FD-8 suffer the same problem? If so, are there any E-Hat pedals out there that don't have this issue? I want one with a nice wide sweep and no dead zones ideally!
Hello, I followed the instructions - the rubber part was very hard in my hi-hat pedal, and doing this did make it flexible again just as the right foot pedal is. Now I can close my hi-hat, however with some testing I have found that it seems to trigger like this when hit: 1. staccato triggering (as if hit 1.5 - 2 times when only hit once) or 2. delayed triggering. I used my finger to tap the pressure pad below the rubber and it seems to work fine - then the usual foot-on-pedal hitting worked fine, but intermittently this staccato or delay will happen. It's not very reliable. I have a Roland V1-lite, but the setup for the pedal is pretty much identical. I know that replacing the pressure sensor isn't a huge hassle, but it seems to be responsive to me. Any suggestions? The rubber part is not overly lubed now, I made sure to check it was not sticking to the pad and wiped over it again.
Good! But I just need to better understand what to do with the rubber part (in relation to time the actuator must be vaseline and the time of heat and how to do this in detail...), because I understand little the english spoken. Please, could you explain me in detail in writing? Thank you so much!
Hello - would you happen to know how to modify an FD-6 so that it functions as only a two position - On/Off momentary type switch. I have an Alesis DM5 module and my FD-6 wont trigger it. Thanks.
Hi, I never had a FD-6/ FD-7 pedal or an Alesis Modul. Before modifying the pedal, you should make sure that your modul is working with a switch as hi hat control. If a switch is compatible, and the FD-6 is built like the FD-8 from my video, I would attache a screw (with the head down) from the bottom side at the top of the rubber part and connect a cable(the part still has to be moveable move). Remove the sensor and attache aluminium film or something else and connect a cable. Then solder both cables onto the plugin connector. I am not sure if this is working, that's just an idea.
@@adonis5384 I think I bought a replacement one after a while because the old one cracked. But the replacement is still going strong with the Vaseline treatment.
Hello, When I plug my fd8 into my trigger io, the pedal seems to false trigger. I can not be touching the pedal at all and the hi hat randomly opens and closes pretty sporadically. I tried taking it apart like in this video but it did nothing. I didn't notice anything obviously wrong on the disassemble process .
Hi, it might be possible that you connected the sheet sensor in a wrong way. Just pull out the sheet sensor cable and turn it before plugging it in. Check the comment of Donald Hultman.
ok, there is actually not much things to do wrong. So it can be the cable or the jack plug has an issue. These the cable with another pad to make sure it's ok. An have a look at the solder joints of the FD-8 jack plug plate. Otherwise change the sheet sensor. I made a video about it too.
If you want a radical but effective solution, cut three lines halfway into the rubber part across the inside of the curve. This makes the rubber bend more. I put KY Jelly on pretty shoddily and it didn't work. I didn't want to put rubber in a microwave. So I can't say that this fix doesn't work. I can say that the cutting of lines on the rubber works.
+Sandy Hendry Not a big fan of your solution. You take away the stability of the part by doing that. I would suggest buying a spare part if jelly doesn't work.
Would u mind sending me a photo of your rubber after cutting it through my email :(( having this problem and it's driving me crazy (thanhcx710@gmail.com) Thanks in advance :((
+blackguitarman92 Hi, have you tried to order a replacement part? Here are some shop links: Fullcompass: www.fullcompass.com/product/37... Merktron: www.merktron.es/index.php?page... Le-Drumshop: www.le-drumshop.fr/roland-c340...
thanks everyone! took it apart and used the 20 second microwave trick. nice and bendy rubber piece now. careful though, the rubber piece can be a bit warm when you remove it from the microwave ;)
Viewers, you dont have to remove the spring, you don't have to dismantle any of the top parts. Just take the screws off the bottom and be cautious of the ribbon wire.
Where can i buy it from online? And what is thee keyword. My rubber dont have any form anymore, cause the rubber is literally melted when i let mu edrum on the car. Pliz someone help mee :(,
+Ardito Goller The rubber part (C6200053R1), called Sensor Actuator and the sheet sensor (C3400026R0). Order both parts at fullcompass.com in the US, at merktron.es from Spain or the sensor only at le-drumshop.fr from France.
I have visited fullcompas, but they dont delivered it to asian, especially indonesia the country i lived in :( i have go to ebay but there isnt any result
There is no need to take off so many parts if you are just going to remove the rubber hammer... just unscrew the bottom screws and you can carefully lift the top off and leave the cable in place... removed the rubber hammer and lube as shown...
@@adonis5384 It worked well. But I didn't play the drums for a long time and it got stiff again. Unfortunately, for this to be efficient, you would need to play regularly.
This may work but I had a less messier and cheaper solution. Just boil the rubber bit in water for 15 min then add some oil in the water.Let boil for another 5 min and presto,good as new.
@@adonis5384 hey ! The vaseline do his job , i had to do the process once again so twice in a year which is not too bad .... it felt like a new pedal honestly i was happy ... but obviously a new one would be the best
@@adonis5384 to make the process faster i put the thing in plastic bag , then in a hot water for an hour ... you will get the flexibility like the old days ☺
I covered my rubber in petroleum jelly then stuck my gear in hot water for 30 seconds. What was once rock hard is now totally bendy and super sensitive. Thanks a lot.
hurkit1 I thought I was the only one who did things like these to my penis! Love the sensitivity afterwards, but find that having a limp willy is unappealing to the ladies.
Abit long winded. You only need the bottom screws out. I've tried the Vaseline trick it's only a short fix. The actual rubber part is only about tenner new off eBay.
So many unnecessary things done in this video. I like how when you went to screw the plate down you started in the back. When the were done, watch the front housing spin all over the place twisting the ribbon. Hacks!
An extra tip would be to "chim" contact zone, so the rubber hits the sensor, wich is often the problem! I tried it and it sounds LOUD! Wow incredible.. The text is in french but I figure you will understand by looking at the picture! Enjoy ! :) fr.audiofanzine.com/accessoire-pour-batterie-electronique/roland/FD-8/pedago/tutoriels/pedale-de-charley-fd8-probleme-de-volume-5865/
could you not add some tape over the sensor like you did to your cy15 in another video? reduce travel distance for the pedal and get it to trigger better?
cool. i thought maybe it would. the rubber presses down in a gradual smooth motion on the sensor completing the circuit rather than tapping it directly liek the cymbal. plus the rubber may get stuck on the tab i guess. Thanks anyawys
I put into a glass of water and put in microwave 2 times for 30 seconds... the water became just a bit warm and the rubber simply MELTED. BE CAREFUL not to destroy it as I did. My luck was that I experimented it with an already 2-pieces-broken rubber.
very important step not mentioned in the video. Don't forget to put lubricant in this piece in case it doesn't have anymore: blog.lincomatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/actuator.jpg I removed it when cleaning and stop working. But lubricant brought it back to work.
+Vdrum Tips No, you didn't understand my message. The video explains how to fix the rubber actuator. What I added is (because I also had this problem): You must make sure the metal piece that pushes the rubber - see picture on the link - needs to have grease silicone lubricant to push properly. Petroleum jelly it's ok to soften the rubber, but you can't use this jelly as lubricant in the metal piece because eventually will damage the rubber.
This worked beautifully for me. Definitely don't need to remove the top though and I just ended up soaking the rubber piece in medium warm water for about 3 minutes, then did a 20 second microwave to it and left it in for about 5 more minutes and it was golden. Tried it out just now and turned my damn hi hat back 10 years! Haven't heard the hi hat be that responsive since maybe ever. I'd imagine over 24 hours it'll become a slight bit less sensitive as it's still malleable but definitely did the trick for now. Amazing. Thanks for the tutorial!
Edit: so it's been over a month and it's still working great!
It's not necessary to remove the bracket on the top, just the screws at the bottom and you can access the rubber piece.
Thanks so much! I had to STOMP HARD to get my pedal to trigger and this fixed it like new! However, I didn't see any reason to completely disassemble it like in this video. I just took the screws out of the bottom, and that allowed me to get to the inside without touching the pedal, spring etc. at all. Much easier and once you get that plastic casing off you can slip it off the pedal.
I slathered it in Petroleum jelly, left it under a desk lamp for about 24 hours, and it was super flexible again! Felt great!
Nice to hear that. Yes I know. I resembled it completely to clean it, but as you said. No reason to dissemble it completely.
Heath Allyn hello. Just wanna know if you still got problem with your fd8 after the remedy? Thank you
Adonis Gamboa I didn't have any more problems after that but I no longer have it any more.
Heath Allyn okay thank you. Just making sure i wont get a bad deal from a seller. 😅
As rubber ages, it hardens. This happens when the softening chemicals called "plasticizers" bleed out. The hardening process can take years, but it can be reversed before the rubber gets so brittle that it crumbles. Plasticizers keep rubber in a pliable state for better utility. Silicone spray contains the plasticizers needed to restore hardened rubber to its original suppleness. You can also heat rubber to make it more flexible when cold temperatures have caused it to harden. Automobile window seals commonly suffer from rubber hardening.
Rubber Softener
1 Spray the rubber with silicone spray. This spray can be found at any camping supply store. Spray until the rubber is soaked. Place the rubber inside an airtight, plastic bag. Use large garbage bags for big pieces of rubber.
2 Keep the rubber in the plastic bag for three to seven days.
3 Lift the bagged piece of rubber and bend it to check for pliability. Once the desired suppleness is attained, you can remove it from the bag for use. You might need to repeat this process if the rubber hasn't softened to the extent you desire.
Heat
1 Heat some water in a stew pot on the stove. Heat it until boiling.
2 Set the stew pot in the sink and submerge the rubber in the water to soften it.
3 Grip the rubber with a pair of salad or canning tongs and remove it from the water. If you need to touch the rubber at this point, put on a pair of oven mitts or leather work gloves to handle it.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! This was a great video.
I deviated a little from your instructions after reading some comments. The result was I didn't have to wait more than 20 minutes from start to finish and I had a working pedal.
I boiled a pot of water and VERY CAREFULLY, with a spoon, dipped the petroleum coated rubber in the hot water for 5 seconds at a time. Every 5 seconds I'd take it out to check it's elasticity and make sure it wasn't melting (as some people experienced). I think I only repeated this about 2-3 times before it was ready again.
USE EXTREME CAUTION when using hot water. The video recommends leaving somewhere warm over night and that's truly the safest way to go. But in the interest of time you can do it with hot water but you really have to be carful and dip it only a couple 3-5 second bursts.
Thanks, I tried the microwave method recently and the thing started melting:D The microwave method is dangerous. :D
The Actuator on our pedal was rock hard, you could barely bend it......we followed the instructions (covering it in petroleum jelly and sitting it on paper on top of our set-top box for heat, overnight) and now it is as bendy as a new one. I have seen another clip on TH-cam that said it didn't work.....I'm wondering if he didn't add the "heat" element? Truly amazing! Thanks.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Tried this on my 8 year old Hihat that was becoming practically unplayable. Worked perfectly. I did also wash it in warm water when I took it out of the pedal.
Now, I genuinely think it's better than when it was new.
Reporting in in 2023. Your methods worked perfectly on my 10-year-old FD-8. I was skeptical, but warm water / Vaseline / microwave on the rubber actuator did the trick. Thanks very much!
I have a 11 year old FD8 and the hihat stopped working completely. I first replaced the sensor which made it at least signal again~, but still very stiff and unresponsive. After soaking it for a minute or 10 in ~60 oC water and liberally applying some petroleum jelly the pedal responds just like out of the factory.
Thank you for the excellent video!
bami2 hello. Just wanna know if you still got problem with your fd8 after the remedy? Thank you
@@adonis5384 hey,
You can keep the rubber flexible pretty much indefinitely with this method. I've used it for years re-elasticizing the rubber every couple of months but eventually replaced the pedal with a FD9 just for the feedback and difference in handling (it has more inertia like a real hihat pedal then the FD8). It still works fine although after it has been a couple of months in storage the rubber hardens again and it needs to be reapplied.
Cleaning and covering the rubber in vaseline and putting it in the microwave for 30 seconds @ 300watt also works.
bami2 okay thank you. Just making sure i wont get a bad deal from a seller. 😅
@@adonis5384 If the rubber is truly gone, you can order a replacement for like 7-8 euro/dollars from china or 20 from roland themselves (parts number C6200053R1).
@@bami2 wow! thank you! big help! :)
That's helpful. Thanks. To complete this fix I would not completely disassemble the entire unit as it's unnecessary - unless you want to service the entire pedal (clean, lubricate etc.)
For the fix, you only need to remove the square bolt with the drum key (00:20) and the seven screws (01:02) to access the rubber actuator or the sheet sensor. Thanks for the video.
You are right. It is my style to disassemble everything to clean it properly.
Fantastic! It works! At the music store they asked me 50-60 Euros to fix it but with this video I only paid the cost of petroleum jelly (3.5 euros)! Very good work! :)
Great video. Did this with my FD-6 but the rubber was too far gone for this alone. Microwaved it for 20 seconds after leaving it over night in Vaseline and it works a treat now
Danny Thirteen Does the FD-6 pedal have the same rubber part?
Vdrum Tips it does indeed. It's very similar. I went for it over the FD-8 because I have very big feet and it has a wider foot plate.
I tried this yesterday and it absolutely works! Thanks Vdrums Tips!
Never thought Vaseline can repair electronic parts!!
I tried it and success, thanks a lot!!
Vaseline isn't repairing electronic parts. The problem here is the rubber actuator is made of a rubber formula that hardens over time.
I like how they took every single thing apart just to remove the rubber part... you only need to remove the bottom screws to take it out. Great tip though, I'm hoping it will work after doing this!!
You are right, the pedal part doesn't have to be removed. It worked great for me, but I got a feedback from someone else that the problem comes back after a while. Rubber needs maintenance every now and then. This could mean you have to do the procedure again.
Sometimes it's simply the trigger and not the rubber. But I have no ideas where to get a spare part.
I am still searching for a better way to fix the pedal. As soon as I find it, I will make a video about it.
Thanks for your feedback!
There are a few videos about this out there, but this if nothing else shows the best way to take the pedal apart to get at the insides to fix it. How well the repair works seems to be debatable, but as it's essentially free I would certainly try this first before cutting the rubber part or buying a new one as in other videos.
I was also suffering from the same problem. I had to press hard with my left leg to completely silence the ringing sound. This situation both prevented me from working comfortably and strained my leg. Since silicone rubber is exposed to pressure, its volume shrinks over time and it cannot apply sufficient pressure to the pressure sensor. To fix the problem, the silicone rubber needs to be replaced. I did a little research and when I saw that a silicone part that did not even cost 1 dollar was sold for about 30 dollars on the internet, I found the solution myself without spending any money. I glued a 2mm thick plastic silicone layer to the end of the metal pedal that puts pressure on the silicone part and the problem was solved. Although heating and petroleum jelly may make the silicone work temporarily, it does not work in the long term. will return to its old self again..The next thing to do is to wash the very dirty white mesh tom and snare drum heads of my roland with laundry detergent and make them white as the first day. But damn, I don't understand why they used screws that are nowhere to be found instead of the familiar allen screws. I'll have to buy a drum key.
Hi, I'm from Brazil and my rubber pedal was also very hard, I tried to moisturize it but it was not very good .. I put it in the microwave (yes, we have microwave) for 15 seconds and it was amazing!
Nice to hear that! Happy drumming:D
Glad to hear you have a microwave 🤙
Works!! It's not necessary remove all those things like the guys said before. And 15 to 20 seconds on a microwave if necessary is a nice tip too!! Thanks.
Hello guys, it has been years. Did it went stiff/hard again? Just asking since Im either doing this or the slice technique. Looking for inputs. Thanks guys!
It works! I left the rubber part on top of the heater during the night. Thank you mate.
Thanks for the video, I have done this several times and after a while it reverts back to being rock hard again. I would be interested in knowing if the people below still have working pedals. Thanks.
This is not a permanent solution, as rubber does get old. You can either repeat it or just buy a replacement part. These rubber parts are available. They cost 15$.
Thanks. Is it just me that thinks that it's a bit cheeky asking to purchase these as they are a manufacturing issue therefore should be free!
Depends, rubber gets old after a while. And I think it is not supposed to be used for a long time. Still weird, since other Roland gear lasts forever. But Roland improved, they invented the FD-9. Check it out.
dude it worked... like omg i wanna buy you a beer. took it oitside under the sun. i live in greece. it was ready after 15 minutes. works brilliantly now. the only downside is that its a bit sticky cause of the vaseline. it will not come off completely. if you have anything to suggest about that please do.
Haha, the good old sun was fixing it? :D Cool. It is ok if it is covered in vaselin, meaning it stays flexible for longer time.
well it was completely soft! i intended to let it there for a whole day. if that happened it would be completely melted !hhahaha. Well my only concern is that the vaseline could damage the sensor.. otherwise i can live with the sticky feeling
maybe use a piece of cloth to wipe it off at the lower part where it touches the sensor.
Opa!
Thank you so much, my pedal just suddenly stopped working, and now only half an hour later, its up and running again! I didn't leave it over night obviously but it worked.. panic over.. thank you
+Steve Hewitt Nice to hear. Half an hour is pretty quick. Not bad!
THANK YOU!!!! So easy and perfectly described! Saved me a new pedal! And I love that voice and simple background music. You rock.
Thank you for watching it and your positive feedback. I am really happy to see that it's working for some people!
During 11/2024, mine went inop. Boiled the rubber hammer for 5 mins, let it sit there for 5 extra mins, dried it off, put it back in and it worked fine. YAY. i really needed this to work.🙂
I have an alternative version where I cut with a very sharp knife in the rubber, have to be careful but it's instant and you have reasonable control over the flexibility at the end of the process
th-cam.com/video/KZrFsdaWu9Y/w-d-xo.html pretty much like that
What is this silicone spray that she's using? I can't understand because of her accent.
If the silicon grease gets on the sensor will it work?
You made a good point here. It can get between the sensor layers and prevent the sensor from working.
if grease get between the sensor layers how to make the sensor work? only replace for new sensor?
If grease gets between the layers, does actually mean that the sensor is already broken. A new sensor is entirely closed.
thnx a lot!
+Vdrum Tips thank you so much!!! i used to have to push on it really hard and now, it works like a charm. thank u and you have earned a sub.
I did mine 2 days ago, just boiled it for a few minutes and it's fine. If it goes hard again, I'm going to leave it in silicone overnight. That will definitely sort it out.
@Nicola: It will not last forever. The rubber will get hard again. But you can repeat the process.
That rubber actuator is the same as in the Roland td 1???
Voice doesn't match the arms? 😊
Helpful vdo. 👌
This STILL works perfect! Thanks so much for your help!
These tutorials are invaluable! Thank you so much
Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!!! You just saved me from buying a new pedal... I really appreciate you posting this! It's like new
Thank you for watching:) That's great!
Works great! the heating factor is important from my experimentation
I got an FD-8 hi hat pedal from a friend. It was working on his kit and I tried using it with my Roland HD-3 kit, but it didn't work. Are those two items supposed to work together? And if so, any idea what I need to fix on my FD-8 to make it work with the HD-3?
The HD-1 and FD-8 are identical, but the HD-3 has a different sensor. So I guess you cannot do anything. Maybe still watch my HD-1 pedal repair video.
Thanks! Glad to know it's a sensor issue, and I appreciate your quick response!
Keep your money!
No need to change this piece in plastic.
Just make nicks in the original piece to make it more flexible as detailed in this video!
ToscaVlog - DIY Fixing My Drum Pedal! (By Cutting Roland FD-8 Actuator)
Tested and approved!
"Vaseline or other petroleum products should never be used on rubber or neoprene objects. It can deteriorate the rubber or neoprene very rapidly. The correct lube to use is a silicone based lubricant, which comes with or without Teflon."
I just took out the rubber actuator, popped it into the microwave for 15 seconds, and it went from hard-as-a-rock to soft and pliable again! I will let you know if this fix turns out to be temporary.
This is a great idea:) Yeah, hopefully it will last.
I used a slightly different method and wrapped the black rubber in electrical tape. The tape has more give over a longer period of time. 5 years into the repair and it's still going fine.
Hi Chris, could you pl explain a bit more? You mean instead of petrolium gelly, you put the electric tape and removed after 24 hours?
Vdrum Tips I'm looking to replace my V-Drum Hat Pedal with something like the FD-8.
I've currently got an Alesis Realhat but I find there's a huge 'dead zone' when you press down the footswitch, you have to depress it about halfway before it even contacts the rubber actuator. Then there's only a small range of motion in the trigger's sensor range.
Does the FD-8 suffer the same problem? If so, are there any E-Hat pedals out there that don't have this issue? I want one with a nice wide sweep and no dead zones ideally!
+Bovrillor What module are you using?
I absolutely adore your voice
Hello, I followed the instructions - the rubber part was very hard in my hi-hat pedal, and doing this did make it flexible again just as the right foot pedal is. Now I can close my hi-hat, however with some testing I have found that it seems to trigger like this when hit: 1. staccato triggering (as if hit 1.5 - 2 times when only hit once) or 2. delayed triggering. I used my finger to tap the pressure pad below the rubber and it seems to work fine - then the usual foot-on-pedal hitting worked fine, but intermittently this staccato or delay will happen. It's not very reliable.
I have a Roland V1-lite, but the setup for the pedal is pretty much identical. I know that replacing the pressure sensor isn't a huge hassle, but it seems to be responsive to me. Any suggestions? The rubber part is not overly lubed now, I made sure to check it was not sticking to the pad and wiped over it again.
Hi, it's best to replace both sensor and rubber. I would order the 2 parts together. It will feel like a new pedal.
Hi, thanks for video. Can I use this approach for yamaha hh65 pedal?
Yes, If there is a flexible rubber piece in the Yamaha pedal.
Good! But I just need to better understand what to do with the rubber part (in relation to time the actuator must be vaseline and the time of heat and how to do this in detail...), because I understand little the english spoken. Please, could you explain me in detail in writing? Thank you so much!
You just apply some vasiline to the rubber and put the rubber at a warm place for a while. This will soften it again.
Hi, this is probably a silly (and late) question, but will this and so work for a TD4 pedal, as in, are a tell the components the same? thanks
This pedal is called FD-8, as ar as I know does the TD-4 contain such a pedal.
Vdrum Tips thank you very much
Hello - would you happen to know how to modify an FD-6 so that it functions as only a two position - On/Off momentary type switch. I have an Alesis DM5 module and my FD-6 wont trigger it. Thanks.
Hi, I never had a FD-6/ FD-7 pedal or an Alesis Modul. Before modifying the pedal, you should make sure that your modul is working with a switch as hi hat control. If a switch is compatible, and the FD-6 is built like the FD-8 from my video, I would attache a screw (with the head down) from the bottom side at the top of the rubber part and connect a cable(the part still has to be moveable move). Remove the sensor and attache aluminium film or something else and connect a cable. Then solder both cables onto the plugin connector. I am not sure if this is working, that's just an idea.
Scott McCee
Thanks for the info - I'm not real good with this kind of stuff but I'll have a friend help me take a look at this. Cheers!
Thanks so much! Pedal is working again after following this tip.
Tom Wright hello. Just wanna know if you still got problem with your fd8 after the remedy? Thank you
@@adonis5384 I think I bought a replacement one after a while because the old one cracked. But the replacement is still going strong with the Vaseline treatment.
@@hovis21 okay thank you. Just making sure that I can make a good deal from a seller
I used hot water and the part has melted and since 8-9 hours it is not becoming hard. What can I do?
Thank you! Just followed your excellent video. Smooth repair.
Thank you very much. Useful tips on how to disassemble the hi-hat pedal.
Hello, When I plug my fd8 into my trigger io, the pedal seems to false trigger. I can not be touching the pedal at all and the hi hat randomly opens and closes pretty sporadically. I tried taking it apart like in this video but it did nothing. I didn't notice anything obviously wrong on the disassemble process .
Hi, it might be possible that you connected the sheet sensor in a wrong way. Just pull out the sheet sensor cable and turn it before plugging it in. Check the comment of Donald Hultman.
i actually did not disconnect the sheet sensor. I just took the rubber piece out and back in.
ok, there is actually not much things to do wrong. So it can be the cable or the jack plug has an issue. These the cable with another pad to make sure it's ok. An have a look at the solder joints of the FD-8 jack plug plate. Otherwise change the sheet sensor. I made a video about it too.
cool thanks
Thank you! Just spend $2.50 on Vaseline and saved me over $100!
thats 2.50 too much. Next time just boil the rubber in water for 15 min then add a bit of oil then let boil for another 5 min and presto,good as new.
If you want a radical but effective solution, cut three lines halfway into the rubber part across the inside of the curve. This makes the rubber bend more.
I put KY Jelly on pretty shoddily and it didn't work. I didn't want to put rubber in a microwave. So I can't say that this fix doesn't work.
I can say that the cutting of lines on the rubber works.
+Sandy Hendry Not a big fan of your solution. You take away the stability of the part by doing that. I would suggest buying a spare part if jelly doesn't work.
+Vdrum Tips
I'll report back here if it snaps.... right now it is feeling more like a real hi-hat pedal than it has for years...
Let me know how long it lasts this way.
Would u mind sending me a photo of your rubber after cutting it through my email :(( having this problem and it's driving me crazy (thanhcx710@gmail.com)
Thanks in advance :((
+blackguitarman92 Hi, have you tried to order a replacement part? Here are some shop links:
Fullcompass: www.fullcompass.com/product/37...
Merktron: www.merktron.es/index.php?page...
Le-Drumshop: www.le-drumshop.fr/roland-c340...
What a great help this video was! Thankyou, good as new!
Thanks, I am happy to hear that!
Excellent video. Thanks for posting!
thanks everyone! took it apart and used the 20 second microwave trick. nice and bendy rubber piece now. careful though, the rubber piece can be a bit warm when you remove it from the microwave ;)
+digital138 the ruuber go to microwave clean or with vaseline?
+digital138 Yes, the ultimate solution is buying a new rubber part.
try putting it in the microwave for 30 seconds i did and it is soft like it was when it was new works great now
Good idea, I thought it will explode if you do that:D
I did this and it works like magic! Thanks so much! But all you need is 20 seconds...
You used the microwave too? :D
Lari Perez Thank you so much, it worked perfect for me. 20 seconds in microwave without Vaseline
awesome glad this has helped so many ppl
Viewers, you dont have to remove the spring, you don't have to dismantle any of the top parts. Just take the screws off the bottom and be cautious of the ribbon wire.
Hey Alex, yes you are right. I did it to clean the thing. Cheers
Dont shave your hand I like the voice over ity's good Thanks for a good video
Thank you uploader!!! my pedal feels like new.
Amit Netanel Happy to hear that. Thanks for watching!
You guys are awesome, thanks for this!
Where can i buy it from online? And what is thee keyword. My rubber dont have any form anymore, cause the rubber is literally melted when i let mu edrum on the car. Pliz someone help mee :(,
+Ardito Goller The rubber part (C6200053R1), called Sensor Actuator and the sheet sensor (C3400026R0). Order both parts at fullcompass.com in the US, at merktron.es from Spain or the sensor only at le-drumshop.fr from France.
I have visited fullcompas, but they dont delivered it to asian, especially indonesia the country i lived in :( i have go to ebay but there isnt any result
You can only try to contact the Roland customer support.
you can buy new on Amazon $18.99
There is no need to take off so many parts if you are just going to remove the rubber hammer... just unscrew the bottom screws and you can carefully lift the top off and leave the cable in place... removed the rubber hammer and lube as shown...
Hi Richard, yes, you are right, that would be quicker. Didn't think about that when I made the video:)
Useful video ,great work
thanks for the video! Solved my problem!
Thank you ! My HD-1 is just like new now.
Glad to hear that. Well done!
75offsuit hello. Just wanna know if you still got problem with your fd8 after the remedy? Thank you
@@adonis5384 It worked well. But I didn't play the drums for a long time and it got stiff again. Unfortunately, for this to be efficient, you would need to play regularly.
75offsuit okay. Thank you for the advice. 👍🏻
Worked like a charm - thanks!
Helped me a lot. Thanks!
I put the rubber part in a warm place as recommended. In front of my fire. It completely melted.
Amazon $18.99
HAHA!
This may work but I had a less messier and cheaper solution. Just boil the rubber bit in water for 15 min then add some oil in the water.Let boil for another 5 min and presto,good as new.
Thanks for saving my V-Drum :)
OMG It works !!!! Thank you so much , I was thinking the worse ! no need to buy another pedal ! peace !
melaasify hello. Just wanna know if you still got problem with your fd8 after the remedy? Thank you
@@adonis5384 hey ! The vaseline do his job , i had to do the process once again so twice in a year which is not too bad .... it felt like a new pedal honestly i was happy ... but obviously a new one would be the best
@@adonis5384 to make the process faster i put the thing in plastic bag , then in a hot water for an hour ... you will get the flexibility like the old days ☺
melaasify okay thank you. Just making sure i wont get a bad deal from a seller. 😅 You’re right, the best is to have fd9 🤣
melaasify okay thank you. Just making sure i wont get a bad deal from a seller. 😅
I covered my rubber in petroleum jelly then stuck my gear in hot water for 30 seconds. What was once rock hard is now totally bendy and super sensitive. Thanks a lot.
hurkit1 I thought I was the only one who did things like these to my penis! Love the sensitivity afterwards, but find that having a limp willy is unappealing to the ladies.
hurkit1 hello. Just wanna know if you still got problem with your fd8 after the remedy? Thank you
Adonis Gamboa it kind of worked but not for long. Just went and bought a new one to save all the hassle
hurkit1 yeaah. A new one is still the best heheh thank you
tank you a lot and long life for drum's
Thanks for this detailed explanation Duane! Hopefully many people read this too. Would you mind if I use this text in my blog: v-drumtips.com?
Abit long winded. You only need the bottom screws out. I've tried the Vaseline trick it's only a short fix. The actual rubber part is only about tenner new off eBay.
yes, but at the time it was not so easy to get.
thank you so much !!!!! works awesome now
The problem with using Vaseline/petroleum jelly near metal parts, is that it is a water based product and will rust any metal over time.
On the contrary, it is a petroleum based product (made of mineral oil, which comes from petroleum) and can actually prevent metal from rusting.
So many unnecessary things done in this video. I like how when you went to screw the plate down you started in the back. When the were done, watch the front housing spin all over the place twisting the ribbon. Hacks!
Great Video... thanks for the help. :)
Thanks
Very helpful, thank you so much !!!
Worked for me thanks :)
Nach einem Monat ist dieses Gummi wieder hart geworden..
Brilliant !! - it works
That 2 chord backing track is super annoying!!
An extra tip would be to "chim" contact zone, so the rubber hits the sensor, wich is often the problem! I tried it and it sounds LOUD! Wow incredible.. The text is in french but I figure you will understand by looking at the picture! Enjoy ! :) fr.audiofanzine.com/accessoire-pour-batterie-electronique/roland/FD-8/pedago/tutoriels/pedale-de-charley-fd8-probleme-de-volume-5865/
+cuistot20 not magic solution but it improved the sound of my hard actuator.
Thanks
yeah!! orked awesome for me too. ive heard it only lasts a short while so we will see :) but looking good s far :p thanks a load
kiopl2003 Sadly yes. Either you become really good in speed dissembling or you change the rubber part:)
could you not add some tape over the sensor like you did to your cy15 in another video? reduce travel distance for the pedal and get it to trigger better?
You can try, but I think it degreases the sensitivity.
cool. i thought maybe it would. the rubber presses down in a gradual smooth motion on the sensor completing the circuit rather than tapping it directly liek the cymbal. plus the rubber may get stuck on the tab i guess. Thanks anyawys
There is absolutely no need to take the whole thing apart !!!
Nice, tks
I put into a glass of water and put in microwave 2 times for 30 seconds... the water became just a bit warm and the rubber simply MELTED. BE CAREFUL not to destroy it as I did. My luck was that I experimented it with an already 2-pieces-broken rubber.
Sorry to hear that. Thankfully you can get them as spare parts.
thank you so much!!
Haha, it worked, thank you very much :-) !
My pedal is now 10 yrs old. I used E45 cream. The jury is out 😆
very important step not mentioned in the video. Don't forget to put lubricant in this piece in case it doesn't have anymore:
blog.lincomatic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/actuator.jpg
I removed it when cleaning and stop working. But lubricant brought it back to work.
btw, grease silicone lubricant
+Joey Vera That's basically the subject of the video, except that I have used petroleum jelly.
+Vdrum Tips No, you didn't understand my message. The video explains how to fix the rubber actuator. What I added is (because I also had this problem): You must make sure the metal piece that pushes the rubber - see picture on the link - needs to have grease silicone lubricant to push properly. Petroleum jelly it's ok to soften the rubber, but you can't use this jelly as lubricant in the metal piece because eventually will damage the rubber.
"the rubber gets stiff and hard" gigity
Doesn't work..