Indeed, cut but don't replant. Not that he's re-planting anyway... halfway through the video and both foresters are still turned off. Phase out those crappy birch trees! Plus, again, you must cut or demolish the dead mangroves in order to replant there.
And seeing as he's using some mods, he can hook a stream gauge up to a water pump to have it auto fill for him when it gets too low so the crops stay alive. Just need to dynamite a 2nd hole next to the 1st.
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming You can use water dumps to hydrate plants as they dump drinkable water. I usually bomb a square and put a water dump on it to constantly fill it with water from my storage. This incentivises getting more water storage, which is why i have 4 big tanks lmao. This seems better in my opinion as I wouldnt have to keep pouring out water to a river, I would just put water on one block to make a whole area green.
4:30 Dam blocks overflow when they reach +0.5 of water, you are basically storing just .5 block deep of water, while the rest probably just evaporates with time. I think you should change them for an 1-tall gate, as you can just close them shut on dry and keep at .5 on wet
Have you considered, if you optimised your paths rather than just randomly laying them everywhere, your haulers might get more work done? You should also consider the paths they take in the making of a finished product, with all the stages in between, try and put things near each other, and if moving a building cuts a big chunk off a beaver's commute, maybe do it. You might double the useful work a hauler does, so you can halve their number. You could also put water closer to where the beavers work, since they all need to drink every day. Have one guy hauling it instead of them all running around to the barrel.
And re-working the paths would also be an opportunity to re-design the industrial areas. The one on the lower level has grown to where it's the main culprit in terms of blocking possible paths. And the iron and dynamite production exclave can not share it's power with the food and wood themed factories. I'd probably move all powered buildings from the lower area to the upper level (and by "moving it" I mean building a replacement before demolishing and re-claiming the resources). The upper level has the advantage that the power can be connected in the back (as he's done it at 12:14 with the paper mill and dynamite factory), while the access paths branch off the main path along the front. And the storage of intermediate materials would then best go directly on the other side of that main path. Completely re-working the layout of the colony could easily increase the efficiency by 40% (wild guess, I'm no expert). But I don't think RCE will actually do something like that. Building a larger reservoir just makes for a better thumbnail (even though the current colony survives 26 day droughts just fine with the current size, and RCE himself admitted that he sees it as future proofing). The little dynamite holes probably gave him all the drought resilience that he would ever need. It doubles the evaporation time for basically the same amount of water released, which is the same benefit as doubling the reservoir size. And in terms of water, I'd put (at least) one large water tank near the new log pumpers and the iron mine. This will minimize the hauling distance from those 4 pumps (which is important if the haulers don't keep up during a wet season) and put the water closer to where the beavers are. In fact, I might actually move the water tank from the rear edge of the map to that same area as well, unless there's some water consuming building that can be built next to that tank (or if the tank is supposed to be a reserve that isn't supposed to be tapped during a normal dry season). By the way, that piece of land with the iron mine is the only place from which beavers can access any of the water pumps! I'm not sure if RCE realizes that the path through his water reservoir extension is now disconnected from the top of the dams.
If he created a few bridges or scaffolding pathways he could make it more efficient without redoing everything. But he's said in other games he's not interested in "American" efficiency because it's too boxy.😂
Sometimes I wonder if Matt's problems in this game are caused by his excessive micromanagement and subsequent failure to actually keep up with the micro he's incurring.
*Summary* *Introduction and Early Planning* - 0:02: Welcomes audience back to Timber borers series. - 0:27: Celebrates 10th episode milestone. - 0:44: Gives game status update, mentions beaver count and water storage. - 1:04: Shares future plans, including water storage and new structures. - 1:47: Discusses industry; jokingly criticizes a 'fake' architecture engineer. *Water Management and Drought Preparation* - 2:21: Introduces explosives factory for solving water evaporation. - 3:08: Drought begins; shifts focus to wood and plank production. - 3:59: Plans for deep water pump platforms. - 4:33: Preps for next drought, notes current one lasts 22 days. - 5:26: Talks about hydroponic gardens as new food sources. - 6:00: Plans tree demolition for water storage. - 6:40: Considers mod for beaver mobility through a levy. - 7:15: Plans secondary water storage. - 7:43: Pauses game to conserve water, emphasizes green environment. *Resource Management and Crisis Aversion* - 11:21: Discusses near water shortage and emergency measures. - 11:32: Plans paper mill, lists required materials. - 11:48: Talks about explosives factory necessities. - 11:58: Pauses plank and gear production for other tasks. - 12:20: Plans trench dynamiting, mentions new log pumpers. - 12:34: Considers dam relocation for troubleshooting. - 12:45: Notes progress, identifies potential need for more hospital beds. - 13:57: Emphasizes need for paper and explosives for future projects. *Challenges and Adjustments* - 14:19: Expresses frustration over incoming drought. - 15:22: Discusses resource scarcity, specifically logs and gears. - 16:19: Another drought starts, affecting resources. - 16:45: Regrets past tree removal decisions. - 17:01: Realizes upcoming 26-day drought, plans for tree preservation. - 17:53: Notes quicker-than-expected water depletion, adjusts pumping. *Late-Game Developments* - 18:20: Completes explosives factory, acquires dynamite. - 18:29: Ponders using dynamite for water storage improvements.
i thought architectural engineers were the guys who had to look at the madness architects cook up then figure out how to translate into something that won't kill the occupants
After having watched so many episodes of Timberborners, I had finally to purchase my copy of TImberborn from the Steam sale. Funny how I was expecting to hear the Timberborners theme tune :D And I also heard an internal narration by Matt when playing. I still do, after having played quite a lot. Like if there's a beaver sitting in front of a building: "What are you doing there sitting on your ass" :D :D I'm happy with the purchase
RCE- I found that the best way to manage the droughts is to pump out and store as much water as possible every single day, and leave a water dump running without haulers assigned to it. This way you don't even need flood gates. You can also have them dump into a full-height reservoir so they stop dumping when it's full. If the reservoir has any dam pieces to prevent it from getting to full height, they will continue dumping your precious water. If you use dams, place a water pump at the bottom of your river to recycle the water back upstream to the water dump. I'll even make a one tile reservoir using 8 levees and place a water dump in an area far away from rivers to grow more crops using practically zero water and never worrying about dry seasons. Cheers!
Making a hole with dynamite to fill with water to keep the crops alive is a good idea ! Making said hole in the middle of your field and puting a water dump on top of it is an even better idea.
I'm hoping that the devs allow us to choose whether or not to have badwater as a thing... a simple toggle in Preferences would be great. But it's still going to be an interesting challenge, especially with what I've seen from TH-camrs playing on the experimental branch recently. I just want a toggle for badwater to give the players more options... and if the devs want to make badwater more interesting, they could give it other effects than simple death-causing toxicity. Insane beavers who can't stick to their assigned tasks, insomniac beavers who work themselves 24/7 to death, not even stopping for food or water...and I'm sure we can think of other possibilities.
@@jacksonstarky8288 Yiu can set teh amount of badride-free cyclews and set taht chance, so I guess you can set it to 0, And then use a custom map without badwater sources.
This series is so up and down I love it. As we all know from Darkest Dungeon -> Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer! Or, in the case of Timberborn and Matt, sometimes a very quick and shocking killer...
Use Floodgates on the edge of the map, they dont glitch out. Also raise your floodgates to level 3 around 4 hours before drought. Also Also build a reservoirs at the top of the mountain around the water sources!
I did this map on this difficultly and flooded downstream and made a crap ton of log pumpers. I was able to support 160ish beavers on a drought of about 28 days. You just have to have a massive amount of water storage and then a ton of pumping power when the wet season begins. You also don't have to demolish resources, you could just clear the planting area and then you'll naturally cut them down and keep the resources. You could even reduce the tree cutting radius to just the trees you want cut so they get prioritized.
Because your Hydroponics had a full storage, it did not actually drain a lot of water last season. Now that you have storage and a consumer, it will drain your water reserves quickly.
A few suggestions: 1) you loose a lot of time in travel. Think about adding shortcuts, for example along the waterfall's cliff, and a path up the dam from the farm area. 2) demolishing and cutting down take almost as long, try placing woodcutter flags instead of demolishing. 3) you are not using winter vs summer jobs efficiently. do try to pause all industries (ideally including food production) in wet seasons, and pause all/most water pumping in dry seasons. mushrooms and algea are extremely efficient at producing food. mushroom produces close to 200 food every ~4 days, so can last 50 beavers per complex. just never pause it. algea needs a lot of canola oil, but produces close to 400 rations per iteration. 4) mangroves are a good way to use your wet areas, as long as they are only one deep. they can survive underwater for some time, so you can drown them right before a drought then pump them to the surface. 5) relaunch pumpers a bit before the end of the dry season, to get a few more days of pumping if you can afford it. 6) for 60 beavers fed with hydroponics, I found out that 10k water storage allows to survive more than 3 max sized droughts with min sized wet seasons (3-4 days) inbetween. 7) set some storage to "send to other storage", specifically water tanks near your pumps: this will cause your waterpumpers to do the short trip to the tank, and your haulers to do the long trip to the city center. NEVER reduce your number of haulers below your number of pumpers.
RCE please just max out the haulers to ten and prioritize them on orange, this way you can outomate a lot. Water prioriy dark green, Farms on light green Most of the jobs on grey Inventors, Haulers, Builder, orange
To hydrate fields you can just dynamite holes and put a water release on top of it - it only takes a few units of water to fill the hole and each one lasts around 10 days. If the field dries out you can just unpause the water release. There's a mod which will let you add a water level sensor and tie the activity of buildings to it, so the water release will automatically turn on when the water drops below a set level.
Wouldn't it be better to keeps the pumps going at the start of the drought and build up stored water for the end rather than waiting until the reservoir is almost empty and doesn't have much left to pump from. Can always put a water dumps on the holes by the farms for them
Hi, RCE. Useful tip (that has saved me a few times): you can have your foresters plant berry bushes. Wild berry bushes spread, but forester planted ones won't grow beyond the patch they're planted in. You could have one area for just berries to sustain the breeding pods, and then remove the rest to plant trees instead. You can replace trees you removed though the power of forester engineering, and still have plenty of berries! You need to pay attention to your trees *and* your berries!
Around 18 minutes I noticed he nearly doubled his beavers. He still has his breeding pods active... O.O That's a lot of water usage (and berries but who cares about those lol) and consequently even more food/water for the new beavers being born.
You know when your water suddenly ran out? That's happened a couple of times with me when I saved the game and came back to it, like it was running in the background. Beavers have transcended.
Matt, very important! The beavers can’t reach the top of the building dam because the flood gate is in the way. You need to build some stairs so the beavers can continue to build.
I got so tired of waiting for new videos to be posted, I had to start my own game on this little map. Seeing all the open space RCE still has here makes me envious.
That's because the bottom is not even, the closest one couldn't reach the bottom of the reservoir. Matt just wanted to make sure somebody was pumping their log instead of sitting on their tail.
you can use the water dump as a very efficient irrigation tower if you build it on a 1 tile hole in a field (because it drains at the evaporation rate of one tile, as opposed to slurping your 1k water tank dry in days, like the actual irrigation tower does).
You can save SO many jobs with your log pumpers , I had a colony of 97 and still only used 3 pumps for all of them. You could redirect all those beavers towards more important stuff
Putting this in before I even watch the whole video. Thank you Matt, I was having a bad day and getting to sing along with you and everyone was just what I needed. 😊
I would now cut a narrow channel from the water source off to the left of the waterfall. That whole large flat area about the factories could be planted out
If you had more water storage, plus singular squares with dumps on them, you could both keep everything green and minimise evaporation - because the water in the storage tanks doesn't evaporate. Only need to turn on the dumps once every couple of days, keeps everything alive.
petition to transform that project extension of the Mega Dam so that it's not that unrealistic and actually looking like a dam (curved) by following the alredy existing "curve" of the right side of the actual Mega Dam! (can still add the closed part with the double gates but it will look much better!)
If someone had told me that I would be this entertained by watching digital beavers make fake damns and levees I would not have believed you; yet, here I am loving Timberboners
Hey Matt! The next update of Timberborn is up in the experimental phase and it adds a load of mechanics to the game you should check it out and probably go for the next season of Timberborners sometime soon.
You need to decrease the distance between the working area/ food area and water pum/storage. You can use platforms on top of your reservoir, one near the water fall, other between the tank and pumps. Beavers take a lot of time to travel.
I started a map to copy Matt's series just to see how I'd of done things after the first few of his episodes. I think him not focusing on getting engines unlocked to allow his workforce to do stuff other than creating power and waiting so long to get dynamite to deepen his reservoir to help prevent evaporation has been his biggest weaknesses compared to mine. His is very entertaining but I have robots doing half of my work by now.
Watching Matt complain about his water while he STILL hasn't removed those dams for the second and third water area is insane to me. Like they don't hold a full block of water so ofcourse you're losing water down there!
Architectural engineering focuses its study on the design of all building systems, including the mechanical, lighting/electrical, and structural systems of a building, while also planning the construction process of buildings and building systems.
as now, you don't really need to make paths on top of the dams, maybe if you change them to leavers and walls it maybe work for the problem of the missing water too
you could be an architectural engineer, its simply just, steal truss beams, with a pretty looking lightweight foam outer shell to make it look like something else ya know :P
When is somebody gonna tell him, that after he set up the Hydroponic stuff once (i.e. getting the 40 water inside), they dont need any more water, until the growth circle is done? He´s stressing too much about that :D
So happy to see another Timberborners episode! You should check out Airborne Kingdom! I have really enjoyed playing it and I think you could make some content with it. Not a lot to it so maybe not a series but potentially something for you to compile for fewer. I love the way you run these sim games
When you have the faction with the infinite depth pumps you don't really 'lose' the water. Yes, you lose the ability to dump water downstream, but you can keep your pumps going. Really useful if you want to run your hydroponics. With your dam you want as much depth as possible and as much total volume. And don't forget, you can dynomite stuff to increase the depth. I think ideally you'd have virtually everything on platforms over a dam, except farm land and a connector road.
You got me into this game and I started last week. I’ve got 140 beavers 6k water and 7k food. I’m so worried about all my beavers dying of thirst and stuff so I’ve got like 20 log pumpers haha 😅😅😅
2:00. Actually architecture in Spain is not taught at liberal art universities. It is taught at tecnical ones because they have to learn about maths and physics and materials to not only design the building, but also design how it must be built. They are architect engineers.
so, water coverage does more based on altitude. the most you can get is on the same level. What i tend to do in this game is create a single cell of water using four levies and a dumping post. the dumping post uses almost nothing, and because it is a single cell the evaporation is as slow as it gets, but the range is enormous. requires a permanently assigned beaver, but as a result you never have to drain the reservoir. The upcoming bad water update scares me for this exact reason. having to completely empty contaminated water reserves is going to be tricky and manually involved.
Hi! You could make a 1x1 hole in the middle of the fields with a dynamite like you did in the river and than build a water dump over that hole... it should use minimal water and keep land green.
that evaporation idea might be good, you could probably detonate jus the entire edge of the river is the only place you need water in to keep stuff green
One improvement that would drastically help with water retention IN the dam, would be just taking more care when letting water out to replenish the river. Dumping a quarter of the available water storage to refill the river each time and making it overflow at the end will still eat up all that water storage just as fast, no matter how much it is expanded, as you'll then just be dumping more water to be wasted in overflow disappearing off the map.
Matt needs to hear the gospel of Maple Trees. Most wood per growth days AND provides maple syrup. Not only that, but if you're playing the folktail engineers they can use it to super charge their golems.
That moment when you need to read the comments to make sure matt doesn't make stupid mistakes again before watching timberborn videos to avoid frustration
You can build a wall of platforms on the back side of a 3-high floodgate. Then add a floodgate with the 1st level the same height as the top of the front levee. it'll just pour past the roof and go downstream, so you can have a series of these that can still contain water just fine, Just remember to activate the back ones first. lol
We gotta get Matt to play Frostpunk. Engineers, city planning, choices that get all of your citizens killed... What's not to love???
frostpunk would be so good, i love that game
it's a bit of an oldie. but Frostpunk 2 is coming out soon so you may have that.
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+1 for Frostpunk. It would be amazing if Matt played it
Yes! We can see if the civil engineer chooses to prioritize the civilians or the engineering
🤦♀️for demolishing the trees instead of cutting them, then found out he had no logs.
Most architectural thing Matt had done so far.
I keep saying, he's so bad at this game
Yeah, that was hard to watch.
High-level game play lives elsewhere 😂😂
Indeed, cut but don't replant. Not that he's re-planting anyway... halfway through the video and both foresters are still turned off. Phase out those crappy birch trees! Plus, again, you must cut or demolish the dead mangroves in order to replant there.
Water doesn't evaporate out of the water storage. More storage would be better than a larger reservoir.
And seeing as he's using some mods, he can hook a stream gauge up to a water pump to have it auto fill for him when it gets too low so the crops stay alive. Just need to dynamite a 2nd hole next to the 1st.
well that a practical idea , wont be thrilling and clickbatebale , probably wont do it .
More storage, and a bridge in front of the waterfall so those beavers can get to pumping their logs sooner earlier each day
I need water to keep plants green rather than to drink
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming You can use water dumps to hydrate plants as they dump drinkable water. I usually bomb a square and put a water dump on it to constantly fill it with water from my storage. This incentivises getting more water storage, which is why i have 4 big tanks lmao. This seems better in my opinion as I wouldnt have to keep pouring out water to a river, I would just put water on one block to make a whole area green.
4:30 Dam blocks overflow when they reach +0.5 of water, you are basically storing just .5 block deep of water, while the rest probably just evaporates with time. I think you should change them for an 1-tall gate, as you can just close them shut on dry and keep at .5 on wet
2 weeks of wait for 20 minutes of Timberborn is not enough. I love these videos.
Not enough wait? ok mate
Have you considered, if you optimised your paths rather than just randomly laying them everywhere, your haulers might get more work done? You should also consider the paths they take in the making of a finished product, with all the stages in between, try and put things near each other, and if moving a building cuts a big chunk off a beaver's commute, maybe do it. You might double the useful work a hauler does, so you can halve their number.
You could also put water closer to where the beavers work, since they all need to drink every day. Have one guy hauling it instead of them all running around to the barrel.
And re-working the paths would also be an opportunity to re-design the industrial areas. The one on the lower level has grown to where it's the main culprit in terms of blocking possible paths. And the iron and dynamite production exclave can not share it's power with the food and wood themed factories.
I'd probably move all powered buildings from the lower area to the upper level (and by "moving it" I mean building a replacement before demolishing and re-claiming the resources). The upper level has the advantage that the power can be connected in the back (as he's done it at 12:14 with the paper mill and dynamite factory), while the access paths branch off the main path along the front. And the storage of intermediate materials would then best go directly on the other side of that main path.
Completely re-working the layout of the colony could easily increase the efficiency by 40% (wild guess, I'm no expert). But I don't think RCE will actually do something like that. Building a larger reservoir just makes for a better thumbnail (even though the current colony survives 26 day droughts just fine with the current size, and RCE himself admitted that he sees it as future proofing). The little dynamite holes probably gave him all the drought resilience that he would ever need. It doubles the evaporation time for basically the same amount of water released, which is the same benefit as doubling the reservoir size.
And in terms of water, I'd put (at least) one large water tank near the new log pumpers and the iron mine. This will minimize the hauling distance from those 4 pumps (which is important if the haulers don't keep up during a wet season) and put the water closer to where the beavers are. In fact, I might actually move the water tank from the rear edge of the map to that same area as well, unless there's some water consuming building that can be built next to that tank (or if the tank is supposed to be a reserve that isn't supposed to be tapped during a normal dry season).
By the way, that piece of land with the iron mine is the only place from which beavers can access any of the water pumps! I'm not sure if RCE realizes that the path through his water reservoir extension is now disconnected from the top of the dams.
If he created a few bridges or scaffolding pathways he could make it more efficient without redoing everything. But he's said in other games he's not interested in "American" efficiency because it's too boxy.😂
Matt: keeps the hydroponics running and using loads of water.
Matt 10 minutes later: WhErE dId AlL tHe WaTeR gO?
Sometimes I wonder if Matt's problems in this game are caused by his excessive micromanagement and subsequent failure to actually keep up with the micro he's incurring.
*Summary*
*Introduction and Early Planning*
- 0:02: Welcomes audience back to Timber borers series.
- 0:27: Celebrates 10th episode milestone.
- 0:44: Gives game status update, mentions beaver count and water storage.
- 1:04: Shares future plans, including water storage and new structures.
- 1:47: Discusses industry; jokingly criticizes a 'fake' architecture engineer.
*Water Management and Drought Preparation*
- 2:21: Introduces explosives factory for solving water evaporation.
- 3:08: Drought begins; shifts focus to wood and plank production.
- 3:59: Plans for deep water pump platforms.
- 4:33: Preps for next drought, notes current one lasts 22 days.
- 5:26: Talks about hydroponic gardens as new food sources.
- 6:00: Plans tree demolition for water storage.
- 6:40: Considers mod for beaver mobility through a levy.
- 7:15: Plans secondary water storage.
- 7:43: Pauses game to conserve water, emphasizes green environment.
*Resource Management and Crisis Aversion*
- 11:21: Discusses near water shortage and emergency measures.
- 11:32: Plans paper mill, lists required materials.
- 11:48: Talks about explosives factory necessities.
- 11:58: Pauses plank and gear production for other tasks.
- 12:20: Plans trench dynamiting, mentions new log pumpers.
- 12:34: Considers dam relocation for troubleshooting.
- 12:45: Notes progress, identifies potential need for more hospital beds.
- 13:57: Emphasizes need for paper and explosives for future projects.
*Challenges and Adjustments*
- 14:19: Expresses frustration over incoming drought.
- 15:22: Discusses resource scarcity, specifically logs and gears.
- 16:19: Another drought starts, affecting resources.
- 16:45: Regrets past tree removal decisions.
- 17:01: Realizes upcoming 26-day drought, plans for tree preservation.
- 17:53: Notes quicker-than-expected water depletion, adjusts pumping.
*Late-Game Developments*
- 18:20: Completes explosives factory, acquires dynamite.
- 18:29: Ponders using dynamite for water storage improvements.
This series is simultaneously addictive and entertaining while also being anxiety inducing all the time
i thought architectural engineers were the guys who had to look at the madness architects cook up then figure out how to translate into something that won't kill the occupants
Yep, they make complex building possible and safe.
That IS what we do. We just translate from Architect insane ramblings into engineer pedantic madness.
okay good just wanted to make sure.
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After having watched so many episodes of Timberborners, I had finally to purchase my copy of TImberborn from the Steam sale. Funny how I was expecting to hear the Timberborners theme tune :D And I also heard an internal narration by Matt when playing. I still do, after having played quite a lot. Like if there's a beaver sitting in front of a building: "What are you doing there sitting on your ass" :D :D I'm happy with the purchase
RCE- I found that the best way to manage the droughts is to pump out and store as much water as possible every single day, and leave a water dump running without haulers assigned to it. This way you don't even need flood gates. You can also have them dump into a full-height reservoir so they stop dumping when it's full. If the reservoir has any dam pieces to prevent it from getting to full height, they will continue dumping your precious water. If you use dams, place a water pump at the bottom of your river to recycle the water back upstream to the water dump. I'll even make a one tile reservoir using 8 levees and place a water dump in an area far away from rivers to grow more crops using practically zero water and never worrying about dry seasons. Cheers!
Making a hole with dynamite to fill with water to keep the crops alive is a good idea !
Making said hole in the middle of your field and puting a water dump on top of it is an even better idea.
I can't wait for Timberborners: Update 5.
6:17 You know you can just tell the forester not to replant those, right?
Badwater is not going to go well for Matt.
@@IceWolfLokiForget badwater, levees blocking irrigation...
I'm hoping that the devs allow us to choose whether or not to have badwater as a thing... a simple toggle in Preferences would be great. But it's still going to be an interesting challenge, especially with what I've seen from TH-camrs playing on the experimental branch recently. I just want a toggle for badwater to give the players more options... and if the devs want to make badwater more interesting, they could give it other effects than simple death-causing toxicity. Insane beavers who can't stick to their assigned tasks, insomniac beavers who work themselves 24/7 to death, not even stopping for food or water...and I'm sure we can think of other possibilities.
@@jacksonstarky8288 Yiu can set teh amount of badride-free cyclews and set taht chance, so I guess you can set it to 0, And then use a custom map without badwater sources.
This series is so up and down I love it. As we all know from Darkest Dungeon -> Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer! Or, in the case of Timberborn and Matt, sometimes a very quick and shocking killer...
Use Floodgates on the edge of the map, they dont glitch out. Also raise your floodgates to level 3 around 4 hours before drought. Also Also build a reservoirs at the top of the mountain around the water sources!
I did this map on this difficultly and flooded downstream and made a crap ton of log pumpers. I was able to support 160ish beavers on a drought of about 28 days. You just have to have a massive amount of water storage and then a ton of pumping power when the wet season begins.
You also don't have to demolish resources, you could just clear the planting area and then you'll naturally cut them down and keep the resources. You could even reduce the tree cutting radius to just the trees you want cut so they get prioritized.
Because your Hydroponics had a full storage, it did not actually drain a lot of water last season.
Now that you have storage and a consumer, it will drain your water reserves quickly.
I love how he knows about the water leaving the map and just doesn't do anything about it
Edit: it took him over half the episode
Oh thank you i was just at that first point and immediately went to check the comments 😂
A few suggestions:
1) you loose a lot of time in travel. Think about adding shortcuts, for example along the waterfall's cliff, and a path up the dam from the farm area.
2) demolishing and cutting down take almost as long, try placing woodcutter flags instead of demolishing.
3) you are not using winter vs summer jobs efficiently. do try to pause all industries (ideally including food production) in wet seasons, and pause all/most water pumping in dry seasons. mushrooms and algea are extremely efficient at producing food. mushroom produces close to 200 food every ~4 days, so can last 50 beavers per complex. just never pause it. algea needs a lot of canola oil, but produces close to 400 rations per iteration.
4) mangroves are a good way to use your wet areas, as long as they are only one deep. they can survive underwater for some time, so you can drown them right before a drought then pump them to the surface.
5) relaunch pumpers a bit before the end of the dry season, to get a few more days of pumping if you can afford it.
6) for 60 beavers fed with hydroponics, I found out that 10k water storage allows to survive more than 3 max sized droughts with min sized wet seasons (3-4 days) inbetween.
7) set some storage to "send to other storage", specifically water tanks near your pumps: this will cause your waterpumpers to do the short trip to the tank, and your haulers to do the long trip to the city center.
NEVER reduce your number of haulers below your number of pumpers.
RCE please just max out the haulers to ten and prioritize them on orange, this way you can outomate a lot.
Water prioriy dark green,
Farms on light green
Most of the jobs on grey
Inventors, Haulers, Builder, orange
I was so disappointed there was no Timberborners last week. I love this series!
To hydrate fields you can just dynamite holes and put a water release on top of it - it only takes a few units of water to fill the hole and each one lasts around 10 days. If the field dries out you can just unpause the water release.
There's a mod which will let you add a water level sensor and tie the activity of buildings to it, so the water release will automatically turn on when the water drops below a set level.
Wouldn't it be better to keeps the pumps going at the start of the drought and build up stored water for the end rather than waiting until the reservoir is almost empty and doesn't have much left to pump from.
Can always put a water dumps on the holes by the farms for them
Hi, RCE. Useful tip (that has saved me a few times): you can have your foresters plant berry bushes. Wild berry bushes spread, but forester planted ones won't grow beyond the patch they're planted in. You could have one area for just berries to sustain the breeding pods, and then remove the rest to plant trees instead. You can replace trees you removed though the power of forester engineering, and still have plenty of berries! You need to pay attention to your trees *and* your berries!
Around 18 minutes I noticed he nearly doubled his beavers.
He still has his breeding pods active... O.O That's a lot of water usage (and berries but who cares about those lol) and consequently even more food/water for the new beavers being born.
You know when your water suddenly ran out? That's happened a couple of times with me when I saved the game and came back to it, like it was running in the background. Beavers have transcended.
Matt, very important! The beavers can’t reach the top of the building dam because the flood gate is in the way. You need to build some stairs so the beavers can continue to build.
"34 seconds ago" It's a dream come true, no one could ask for more.
I got so tired of waiting for new videos to be posted, I had to start my own game on this little map. Seeing all the open space RCE still has here makes me envious.
You should leave the closer water pumps unpaused during the dry season. Not the one that's furthest away
yeah, and that's not his first time its triggering.
That's because the bottom is not even, the closest one couldn't reach the bottom of the reservoir. Matt just wanted to make sure somebody was pumping their log instead of sitting on their tail.
@@lapisanyta good thing he has dynamite now!!
Matt, you need to fix the Timberborners Playlist. There is a mistake in season 5 and there is no season 6.
Glad Matt hasn't forgotten about his best series
you can use the water dump as a very efficient irrigation tower if you build it on a 1 tile hole in a field (because it drains at the evaporation rate of one tile, as opposed to slurping your 1k water tank dry in days, like the actual irrigation tower does).
You can save SO many jobs with your log pumpers , I had a colony of 97 and still only used 3 pumps for all of them.
You could redirect all those beavers towards more important stuff
Putting this in before I even watch the whole video. Thank you Matt, I was having a bad day and getting to sing along with you and everyone was just what I needed. 😊
For your next timberborners series you should pick a map with very little water and make it your goal to green up the whole map.
as a Canadian this is pretty accurate beaver behavior
The second thing that comes to Matt's head is "standing at the back of a funeral". That's dark.
I’m lowkey obsessed with the evolution of the intro- like I swear it gets longer every time
Pointing at the screen and chanting "shame!" is my favorite part of this series 😂😂
I would now cut a narrow channel from the water source off to the left of the waterfall. That whole large flat area about the factories could be planted out
You might consider building more water storage on platforms in the lake. This could increase capacity while reducing hauling time.
If you had more water storage, plus singular squares with dumps on them, you could both keep everything green and minimise evaporation - because the water in the storage tanks doesn't evaporate.
Only need to turn on the dumps once every couple of days, keeps everything alive.
I think you'll like the new update to Timberborn :) lots of having to do water engineering to deal with the new badwater
I give it half an episode of badtide before he accidentally poisons all his beavers because he forgot to divert the water.
i've had to go back and reload so many times i've lost count because of that.@@zecuse
petition to transform that project extension of the Mega Dam so that it's not that unrealistic and actually looking like a dam (curved) by following the alredy existing "curve" of the right side of the actual Mega Dam!
(can still add the closed part with the double gates but it will look much better!)
If someone had told me that I would be this entertained by watching digital beavers make fake damns and levees I would not have believed you; yet, here I am loving Timberboners
I love the timberborners videos, they're my favorite of all your videos, keep up the good work!
I like how Matt built a new dam at the edge of the map to fix his water loss problem, but didn’t get rid of the original one
5:35 "I don't need land for food production anymore"
> deletes wood production, leaves food production untouched
Hey Matt! The next update of Timberborn is up in the experimental phase and it adds a load of mechanics to the game you should check it out and probably go for the next season of Timberborners sometime soon.
We need more frequent episodes of the beavels sorry Timberborners. Love this OG series
Damn. We getting harmonies now. Guys.. he's evolving. 😂
finally you've made some irrigation pits!
You need to decrease the distance between the working area/ food area and water pum/storage. You can use platforms on top of your reservoir, one near the water fall, other between the tank and pumps. Beavers take a lot of time to travel.
I started a map to copy Matt's series just to see how I'd of done things after the first few of his episodes. I think him not focusing on getting engines unlocked to allow his workforce to do stuff other than creating power and waiting so long to get dynamite to deepen his reservoir to help prevent evaporation has been his biggest weaknesses compared to mine. His is very entertaining but I have robots doing half of my work by now.
Watching Matt complain about his water while he STILL hasn't removed those dams for the second and third water area is insane to me. Like they don't hold a full block of water so ofcourse you're losing water down there!
That harmony was actually amazing at the beginning 😂😂😂
Architectural engineering focuses its study on the design of all building systems, including the mechanical, lighting/electrical, and structural systems of a building, while also planning the construction process of buildings and building systems.
as now, you don't really need to make paths on top of the dams, maybe if you change them to leavers and walls it maybe work for the problem of the missing water too
Yay! Waiting more than a week between episodes is excruciating.
you could be an architectural engineer, its simply just, steal truss beams, with a pretty looking lightweight foam outer shell to make it look like something else ya know :P
When is somebody gonna tell him, that after he set up the Hydroponic stuff once (i.e. getting the 40 water inside), they dont need any more water, until the growth circle is done? He´s stressing too much about that :D
Stellar title, mate 👍
So happy to see another Timberborners episode! You should check out Airborne Kingdom! I have really enjoyed playing it and I think you could make some content with it. Not a lot to it so maybe not a series but potentially something for you to compile for fewer. I love the way you run these sim games
Once you have dynamite, blow a single hole in the middle of each farm, have a water dispenser fill the holes and it should keep them green!
Consider a water irrigation tower, provides an area with hydrated ground
When you have the faction with the infinite depth pumps you don't really 'lose' the water. Yes, you lose the ability to dump water downstream, but you can keep your pumps going. Really useful if you want to run your hydroponics. With your dam you want as much depth as possible and as much total volume. And don't forget, you can dynomite stuff to increase the depth. I think ideally you'd have virtually everything on platforms over a dam, except farm land and a connector road.
You got me into this game and I started last week. I’ve got 140 beavers 6k water and 7k food. I’m so worried about all my beavers dying of thirst and stuff so I’ve got like 20 log pumpers haha 😅😅😅
I’ve never looked forward to a series on TH-cam as much as this😂👍
FINALLY MATT READS HIS COMMENTS!!! WATER FALLING OFF THE MAP
Make one of those holes in the middle of the farm land and pump water into it. That should work.
2:08 👉🦫 shame shame shame shame shame
2:00. Actually architecture in Spain is not taught at liberal art universities. It is taught at tecnical ones because they have to learn about maths and physics and materials to not only design the building, but also design how it must be built. They are architect engineers.
Architects who have solid Engineering skills are called "Arcitechs". You can tell who they are, because they pump their logs IN STYLE.
so, water coverage does more based on altitude. the most you can get is on the same level. What i tend to do in this game is create a single cell of water using four levies and a dumping post. the dumping post uses almost nothing, and because it is a single cell the evaporation is as slow as it gets, but the range is enormous. requires a permanently assigned beaver, but as a result you never have to drain the reservoir.
The upcoming bad water update scares me for this exact reason. having to completely empty contaminated water reserves is going to be tricky and manually involved.
2:11 I am on my school bus lol
Hi! You could make a 1x1 hole in the middle of the fields with a dynamite like you did in the river and than build a water dump over that hole... it should use minimal water and keep land green.
You should improve their life expectancy, so you can increase pop without increasing pods that much
that evaporation idea might be good, you could probably detonate jus the entire edge of the river is the only place you need water in to keep stuff green
I never want this series to stop, brings me so much joy, lol.
One improvement that would drastically help with water retention IN the dam, would be just taking more care when letting water out to replenish the river. Dumping a quarter of the available water storage to refill the river each time and making it overflow at the end will still eat up all that water storage just as fast, no matter how much it is expanded, as you'll then just be dumping more water to be wasted in overflow disappearing off the map.
If Matt gave us the change to send in all of us singing the word "Timerborners" I bet so many of us would, and he could get a beautiful harmonization
Ah, yes, the Timberborners theme. This engineer's soul has been thoroughly energized by its perfectly engineered nature.
Matt! Build canals under your paths. Dams and platforms keeps the water from flooding to much or evaporating to quickly
I'm just amazed Matt fixed the exit dam.
please play the new timberborn badwater update on a map that is not so small. then you will have actual bigger problems to solve.
Yes, dynamite holes! I figured this out ages ago, so I am glad to see someone use it. 😊 Great Video by the way. 😊
I hope for next season you try the badwater modifier (radioactive water)
Matt needs to hear the gospel of Maple Trees. Most wood per growth days AND provides maple syrup. Not only that, but if you're playing the folktail engineers they can use it to super charge their golems.
From the title you can really see that he is an Engineer and not an English Major
It's because of RCE that i bought and got addicted to Timberborn. And now I eagerly await the next Timberborners Video
0:22 I didn't sing along until the dooo dooo doo doooooooo went missing.
Edit: 6:30 RIP timberborn season 6. Modded but not forgotten.
THERE! He acknowledged the damn dam (pun intended) thing at the edge, guys! You can stop mentioning it now! 😂
you could add the larger storage in alternating layers of the food skyscraper to save even more space.
That moment when you need to read the comments to make sure matt doesn't make stupid mistakes again before watching timberborn videos to avoid frustration
Like demolishing a bunch of trees to make room for a large timber construction project instead of cutting them down for wood…
Dynamite will be really useful. Use the dynamite to blow out the bottom of your tanks so they're even deeper and hold even more water
You can build a wall of platforms on the back side of a 3-high floodgate. Then add a floodgate with the 1st level the same height as the top of the front levee. it'll just pour past the roof and go downstream, so you can have a series of these that can still contain water just fine, Just remember to activate the back ones first. lol
Matt, you forgot about engines to make power instead of wheels. That was the whole reason you wanted metal!