Important to note that the Infernalist still has a higher power ceiling than this, but this easily outperforms Infernalist on a low-budget. More about high-end Infernalist in the next video!
So effectively, one might open a league with this build, and then roll the gear/currency into an Infernalist version of the build when you've got the budget to make that exceed the ceiling on this build. Neat.
Thank you for touching on LEVELING in a build guide.. SO many guides now solely focus on endgame so please continue to add the leveling section to future guides as well
Which seems crazy to me. After finishing the campaign on 3 different builds, I am pretty convinced leveling is the hardest part of the game currently. I'll also add that I'm not sure I like the difficulty curve starting at Souls and ending at basically PoE1 with a gameplay speed comparable to League of Legends. To clarify though, I've played way too much Dark Souls, PoE and to a lesser extent League until Vanguard dropped, my issue stems from having it all of it over the course of a single ARPG characters lifespan with the difficulty curve going from pretty challenging to medium, or even somewhat easy.
Leveling is not hard at all in POE2 now that we have some knowledge about the game especially items, and some exalts in the bank, I would say it's actually easier than POE1(but not as fast, you still have to unlock skills thru levels, and minus quicksilver flask), because of gold respect, there're several routes to power leveling, one popular method is pillar of the caged god (with two sockets put in some flat ele dmg) + jarngreipr glove, passives you just go all strength if possible, then at a certain level where you main build can be done do a respec with gold And even for a fresh start play thru, you just choose a time of need to "re-spawn at check point" farming, that gets you exalts and gold if you spend an hour and do it like 50 times, it's not big profit but definitely enough to buy leveling items and respec. Ieveling is only hard if you play the game that intended way, which you don't have to at all
@@therocklau Yes, leveling items trivialize the campaign, that's nothing new. I however do not think that matters for a large percentage of the playerbase. Many will play 1 build per league, especially with how long the campaign in 2 is. That percentage of the playerbase will only increase compared to PoE1, and it was already sizable. So, even if I'm not one of those players, I will take that into account. Not to mention my own first playthrough per league won't have much in the way of leveling uniques either. On your point of a fresh start and zone reset farming 50 times: Do you think that's good design, or feasable for a more casual player? I for one do not think having the option of a repetitive grind in order to trivialize the game is good design, honestly.
The tree showcasing in the video has 160% increased minion damage from small passive skills and when playing The Titan ascendancy you get 50% increased effect of small passive skills which gives another 80% increased minion damage. So combined he gets around 240% increased minion damage. Thats why The Titan might be the second strongest minion ascendancy or even stronger than infernalist.
Thanks for the build! I really like Summoner-Builds and was struggling pretty hard with my witch. I just tried your build for about an hour and made some changes to the really early game. As you said it was hard till Freythorn. So i decided to take +5 Int at level 3. Then i could instantly use flame wall and one skeleton sniper. I also took a rattling scepter for offhand. With 2 skeleton warriors, one archer, flame wall aoe plus gas cloud explosion and poison dot, i already could forget melee. At level 6 i swapped sniper for arsonists. So far its pretty fun and easy. You still can slap people in the face with mace strike or boneshatter if needed.
I can confirm this. Lightning arrow and Lightning rod only thing you need. Total breeze until you kill the king in the mist. Respec once you get your spirit gem. So much faster and enjoyabe on both my monk and warrior.
Been playing the Infernalist version and I really enjoy it. I have to say though, watching this video with the Snipers clearing, it doesn't look half bad. If anything I think it might be better. Between the Firewall and 8 Arsonists throwing bombs, it isn't exactly easy to see what's going on at times. Way better visual clarity with the Snipers and they have better range and are better at getting their damage in fast. Might try swapping to the Snipers tomorrow just to see what it's like.
I am a hardcore player so haven't reached endgame. But I can tell you that act 3 and before without a doubt snipers do more damage than arsonists if using active ability. Something I've been recently trying is a mix of snipers and arsonists it's working well.
Ghazzy, you don't have to play melee to level up. The secret is Flame Wall. Take your first uncut gem and immediately go into Flame Wall. If you were lucky to pick up a crossbow, use that, or buy one. Just fire the crossbow into the Flame Wall. If you get luckier with a second uncut gem, get Spark. Spark into Flame Wall will be your map clear. And by the time you get to Freythorn, you will already have Flame Wall ready for SRS. The secret is: everyone plays as a Caster.
Going through the acts as melee is easier than with witch just telling you. I never ever had any problems wiht any bosses through the 6 acts as a warrior/titan and after u get sunder and seismic cry you basicly 1shot all bosses including act bosses.
PLEASE GGG just give us more minion diversity , using only SRS and arcanists is fun untill its boring give us more options , i want to play other minions aswell or be able to have zombie army , or play ravagers or ragins spirits with cast on ignite permanent infernal legion minions that do not die in 5 seconds where is righteous fire skill ?
Reaver and Brute are good, goddamn they are so stupid and clunky. I have 5 brutes, 2 reavers but only 2 -3 of them are dealing dmg, the rest blocks each other.
Just a small suggestion for anyone doing this in the future. You don't have to level with Maces. You can use pretty much anything if you path through the attributes right away (bow might be the best choice in that case, simply cause of range). There are also lvl 6 unique glove that let's you use strength to fulfill requirements for melee skills and weapons in which case you can level with quarterstaves and path through the melee damage nodes. Should make it way smoother/more comfortable until you get to SRS.
For those who want to play this but don't want to have the awfull time Ghazzy had leveling untill feythorn, use shockwawe totem splinter support and high speed round.
i love the melee. for the record, for early, earthquake + boneshatter is what i used. especially once you get the totem, and a stun buildup support on said totem. sorry to hear it didnt fair well for you Ghazzy/
Drop the fire theme, go for reavers + devastate > feeding frenzy > brutality > heft > martial tempo or heavy swing. Devastate fully strips armor on a heavy stun and a fully armor stripped boss in a t15 melts in literally less than 5 seconds. Mapping on open maps is very good as well, but maps with very narrow passages will be the worst experience unless you use the weapon swap mechanic to resummon minions to your position.
I'm still running infernalist with arsonists myself stacking 12k base ES and grim feast. Grim feast is buffed by minion skill and results in almost 1000ES per stack giving me 24kES with overhealing. I personally run full minion skill on my gear getting up to level 29 arsonists and neglect spirit since it seems to be better on dps overall and much cheaper; sometimes minions get stuck anyway and are inefficient at higher numbers. Unfortunately even at 83% res 7k life on my minions they still die regularly on double corrupted t16s which is kind of disappointing, but i guess thats always a problem for non-spectre minions in general. Im interested to see your updated infernalist build considering some time has passed and if you still run mind over matter
If I can help... Any melee is easy early game. Get to the first town at lvl 2, buy a staff and put firewall and spark as your first 2 skills. GG I leveled my titan to 30 as caster and to 70 as grenadier. Great experience.
Can just grab a scepter and play minions from the start, just use Unearth before Raging Spirits becomes online, almost everything else is there already flame wall, Skeletal sniper, Skeletal warriors
@@carlosschlyter keep in mind when your using your very first character you wont have the gold to buy any other gear than what drops ... and your guarunteed a mace
Similar issue with monk leveling until 14. Another content creator recommended people level with lightning arrow/conduit. I ended up doing skeleton snipers and firewall.
It's really hard to argue with the power of that +50% on small nodes. A big chunk of max life and extra space are big quality of life benefits too. Kripp's got a point.
i personally thing skelly archers are going to become much much more common after the update. Skelly archers with their command skill were already very close to arsonists for dps for bossing but their consistent damage was way lower. However with the nerf to arsonists and skelly archers actually having a pretty good Quality boost (10% reservation cost reduction at 20%) i think they will over take arsonists. What i want to see is a build actually utilizing 2 different minions, like skelly archers AND reavers but i dont think this change will happen yet.
I still don't get why do this? Other than for the meme? This ascendency gives you, what, 50% small node boost, 20 inventory slots, and 15% more life? Ghazzy sitting at 3185 life, which isn't terrible but isn't great. I would expect FAR MORE life if you were going to give up everything you gain from Infernalist.... Which gives you way more spirit (give up 25% life), gives you a free minion that actually does pretty decent damage and is tanky. AND, since you go either ES or Mind over Matter, you gain even more ES or Mana traded for some of your life. Just seems like this option is "just because" vs actually a potentially better choice?
@@xyzqsrbo The dog and life reservation for spirit already indicates its tailored for minions. If you go through the special resource route instead, ignition and fire damage for minions. The devs have already confirmed with several content creators that Infernalist is the witch spec for minions with fire damage as flavour. My guess is that when templar and druid are introduced there will be more minion options.
Wouldnt Gemling just be better? it takes about the same amount of points to travel, and the gem ascendancies look very neat... + its not such a pain in the ass early :D
Why go melee at all in the beginning? I don't get it? All you need is skeletal snipers, fire wall, with scatter shot and corrosion and bosses die in one shot still. You just prep 4-5 clouds before the boss spawns then detonate with firewall and the boss is down 50-75% hp in the beginning. That's how I did my Titan. Don't need minion nodes or anything to do that. It makes early start extremely easy.
I leveled this build now up to Freithorn with a wand and shield and grabbed essence drain/contagion at level 2 and 4 to skip the horrible melee leveling.
I would like to see the devs playing through the same content... the early cruel campaign... do they have a grimoire of strategy secreta? What would it take to make it bearable?
ive been saying it way before poe2 came out, that GGG dont want melee for whatever reason, maybe they dont know how, but look on poe1 was horrible, and now in poe2 is even worse much worse, just get rid of the class altogether if its going to perform like this.
Melee is just not that bad if you actually can/care to use your abilities and engage with the game tbh. Having played a titan and a monk 'melee bad' feels like a skill issue.
Has this guy made a build yet death on the minion fireball? I watched a video and it was so ridiculous. So many fireballs. It look like the whole screen was on fire
@@josefcayos4026 Depends what they are talking about, minion death builds are still a thing, you cast fireball it spawns srs they die which triggers your spells in cast on minion death, than repeat.
is it bad that Ghazzy repeatedly complains about how traumatizing leveling warrior was in the beginning when i went through all of act 1 with a mace+shield warrior?
Im really starting to think GGG had really only tuned a handful of skills and the rest are untouched. I see so many classes using the same skills like minions, anything lightning and lighting fart clouds on fire. Everything else feels so weak and not balanced. I cry knowing there is no way cyclone will work in this game.
Default attack, even in his example, is shit. I think people look at the DPS stats on the skills without realizing that it only count the first hit/without additional effects. Use the tools handed to you, read up on what they do, get gear in the shop and act 1 is easy cruising
I tried it, but it takes 34 points until you start getting into minion nodes if you go directly there using travel nodes as much as possible. That makes this an even rougher start through act 1-3
it's not. the +1 is worthless, quality even worst on minion. 30% manacost is useless for minion build. even the double support gem is worthless since we have no spectre atm. and also the skill tree is far.
After the Armour Explosion nerf I'm considering this. It's a full reroll but I'm sick of how painful melee is right now and I do not want to reroll and do campaign again now that I just arrived to maps. Anybody on the same boat?
@@gublin21 yeah, idk how but I totally skipped the part where he speaks about the incoming nerf, I went straight to the build itself... it looks fine, the nerf isnt to be bad
Nifty, so did I read chayula monk right, ... and they pote tally get some crazy 400 extra spirit by level 100 on top of any fromngear or quests? now it goes away if they take dmg or something, but still seems like a fun abuse case if its true.
This is POE 1 all over again ..whenever there is a build that is good for minions they nerf the s***t out of it ... Thx GGG, why dont you just remove minions from game, it will save you the time to nerf every single minion build until no one will play them
In trials too? Lol. That honour is going down to zero real fast. The sanctum alone is designed to avoid damage and getting hit at all costs, and you can't do that as melee.
Oh yes, we Warriors know how bad melee is XD I have given feedback on how bad it is. It doesn't really get better for the Warrior for the most part. Your list of actual viable skills is very low, and neutral game is very slow. Default Attack is something you are going to be using a lot , especially if you build defensive first.
Melee is an absolute pain in the a**. There are melee classes that clear faster like monk but Good Lord, the warrior leveling with pure melee experience makes you want to unalive. SRS Witch burns through everything while still requiring dodge and attention. Melee warrior makes you feel like a random watered down blue mob struggling in every minor combat. You are supposed to be the MC not a suffering NPC.
Booooreeeeiiing, another SRS+Skeletal Arsonist build! 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 Can't you guys come up with something else? Well it's probably more of a problem of these 2 skills outpreform any other minion setup by miles.
![These are GREAT BOSSERS! - Skeletal Reaver Minion Build Showcase [PoE 2]](/img/n.gif)
Important to note that the Infernalist still has a higher power ceiling than this, but this easily outperforms Infernalist on a low-budget. More about high-end Infernalist in the next video!
Awesome work man! Excited to see an update on the infernalist, so much has changed since your first guide
Wanna see you try a Gemling Legionnaire summoner aswell for comparison, good content
When is the infernalist CI build coming bro?
@@lassikivela8966 he said that it kinda sucks because of the starting point on the passive tree, you start on the other side of most minion bonuses
So effectively, one might open a league with this build, and then roll the gear/currency into an Infernalist version of the build when you've got the budget to make that exceed the ceiling on this build. Neat.
Thank you for touching on LEVELING in a build guide.. SO many guides now solely focus on endgame so please continue to add the leveling section to future guides as well
100% this
Which seems crazy to me. After finishing the campaign on 3 different builds, I am pretty convinced leveling is the hardest part of the game currently.
I'll also add that I'm not sure I like the difficulty curve starting at Souls and ending at basically PoE1 with a gameplay speed comparable to League of Legends.
To clarify though, I've played way too much Dark Souls, PoE and to a lesser extent League until Vanguard dropped, my issue stems from having it all of it over the course of a single ARPG characters lifespan with the difficulty curve going from pretty challenging to medium, or even somewhat easy.
Leveling is not hard at all in POE2 now that we have some knowledge about the game especially items, and some exalts in the bank, I would say it's actually easier than POE1(but not as fast, you still have to unlock skills thru levels, and minus quicksilver flask), because of gold respect, there're several routes to power leveling, one popular method is pillar of the caged god (with two sockets put in some flat ele dmg) + jarngreipr glove, passives you just go all strength if possible, then at a certain level where you main build can be done do a respec with gold
And even for a fresh start play thru, you just choose a time of need to "re-spawn at check point" farming, that gets you exalts and gold if you spend an hour and do it like 50 times, it's not big profit but definitely enough to buy leveling items and respec.
Ieveling is only hard if you play the game that intended way, which you don't have to at all
@@therocklau Yes, leveling items trivialize the campaign, that's nothing new. I however do not think that matters for a large percentage of the playerbase. Many will play 1 build per league, especially with how long the campaign in 2 is. That percentage of the playerbase will only increase compared to PoE1, and it was already sizable.
So, even if I'm not one of those players, I will take that into account. Not to mention my own first playthrough per league won't have much in the way of leveling uniques either.
On your point of a fresh start and zone reset farming 50 times: Do you think that's good design, or feasable for a more casual player? I for one do not think having the option of a repetitive grind in order to trivialize the game is good design, honestly.
The tree showcasing in the video has 160% increased minion damage from small passive skills and when playing The Titan ascendancy you get 50% increased effect of small passive skills which gives another 80% increased minion damage.
So combined he gets around 240% increased minion damage. Thats why The Titan might be the second strongest minion ascendancy or even stronger than infernalist.
That makes it barely as good as Infernalist, because Infernalist has 87% minion damage on the tree that no other class gets.
@@Pr3vie Maybe I'm missing it, but where?
@@Somerled_Pox The starting points of witch are witch exclusive minion nodes. For every other class they look different.
To level as a warrior until srs I would recommend every get flamewall and sparks and put fork or unleash on sparks
Thanks, I'm glad you are actually going over the tree in detail without using the online version. This is very helpful.
I've kinda done the opposite and made my witch able to get in the thick of things, but going this route looks dope too 💪
Thanks for the build! I really like Summoner-Builds and was struggling pretty hard with my witch. I just tried your build for about an hour and made some changes to the really early game. As you said it was hard till Freythorn. So i decided to take +5 Int at level 3. Then i could instantly use flame wall and one skeleton sniper. I also took a rattling scepter for offhand. With 2 skeleton warriors, one archer, flame wall aoe plus gas cloud explosion and poison dot, i already could forget melee. At level 6 i swapped sniper for arsonists. So far its pretty fun and easy. You still can slap people in the face with mace strike or boneshatter if needed.
I read that starting with a Bow should be a better experience, no matter what class.
I can confirm this. Lightning arrow and Lightning rod only thing you need. Total breeze until you kill the king in the mist. Respec once you get your spirit gem. So much faster and enjoyabe on both my monk and warrior.
Its how I did it on Warrior and its easy mode compared to trying to auto with shatter support.
Yes, I started with Lightning Arrow and Escape Shot until the first spirit gem and I think it's my go to for melee starts from now on.
@Valdorian-u5x I also did it with a new Witch last night. Also faster.
Been playing the Infernalist version and I really enjoy it. I have to say though, watching this video with the Snipers clearing, it doesn't look half bad. If anything I think it might be better. Between the Firewall and 8 Arsonists throwing bombs, it isn't exactly easy to see what's going on at times. Way better visual clarity with the Snipers and they have better range and are better at getting their damage in fast.
Might try swapping to the Snipers tomorrow just to see what it's like.
I would not on infernalist. Pre nerf snipers were amazing. Post nerf you're gonna struggle. I swapped TO arsonists from snipers.
I am a hardcore player so haven't reached endgame. But I can tell you that act 3 and before without a doubt snipers do more damage than arsonists if using active ability. Something I've been recently trying is a mix of snipers and arsonists it's working well.
what was the nerf to snipers?
Gas grenade damage fell off@@Edrees-aldosary
Ghazzy, you don't have to play melee to level up. The secret is Flame Wall. Take your first uncut gem and immediately go into Flame Wall. If you were lucky to pick up a crossbow, use that, or buy one. Just fire the crossbow into the Flame Wall. If you get luckier with a second uncut gem, get Spark. Spark into Flame Wall will be your map clear. And by the time you get to Freythorn, you will already have Flame Wall ready for SRS.
The secret is: everyone plays as a Caster.
Going through the acts as melee is easier than with witch just telling you. I never ever had any problems wiht any bosses through the 6 acts as a warrior/titan and after u get sunder and seismic cry you basicly 1shot all bosses including act bosses.
PLEASE GGG just give us more minion diversity , using only SRS and arcanists is fun untill its boring
give us more options , i want to play other minions aswell or be able to have zombie army , or play ravagers or ragins spirits with cast on ignite permanent infernal legion minions that do not die in 5 seconds
where is righteous fire skill ?
I use reavers to great effect not sure why he said they were not a good option
@@Asuryann how are the reavers?
@@gregorioricouz6612 they clog doorways
He said reavers give out big damage.. the downside is they're all melee. With tight corridors and terrible pathing. Its such a pain to play with.
Reaver and Brute are good, goddamn they are so stupid and clunky. I have 5 brutes, 2 reavers but only 2 -3 of them are dealing dmg, the rest blocks each other.
Just a small suggestion for anyone doing this in the future. You don't have to level with Maces. You can use pretty much anything if you path through the attributes right away (bow might be the best choice in that case, simply cause of range). There are also lvl 6 unique glove that let's you use strength to fulfill requirements for melee skills and weapons in which case you can level with quarterstaves and path through the melee damage nodes. Should make it way smoother/more comfortable until you get to SRS.
For those who want to play this but don't want to have the awfull time Ghazzy had leveling untill feythorn, use shockwawe totem splinter support and high speed round.
What ?
@ shockwave totem + splinter support breaks the armor of enemies you finish them with high speed round + scattershot
@@germalganis oh it's high velocity was looking for speed in poe2db couldn't find it, thanks !
@@silverblabe215 xD my bad
i love the melee. for the record, for early, earthquake + boneshatter is what i used. especially once you get the totem, and a stun buildup support on said totem. sorry to hear it didnt fair well for you Ghazzy/
Rage support on the default attack + Brutality or Added Fire, melts bosses. Thats the secret sauce for early game.
Drop the fire theme, go for reavers + devastate > feeding frenzy > brutality > heft > martial tempo or heavy swing.
Devastate fully strips armor on a heavy stun and a fully armor stripped boss in a t15 melts in literally less than 5 seconds. Mapping on open maps is very good as well, but maps with very narrow passages will be the worst experience unless you use the weapon swap mechanic to resummon minions to your position.
That's good Hulking Form doesn't apply to Attribute nodes! Thanks for expanding the box
I'm still running infernalist with arsonists myself stacking 12k base ES and grim feast. Grim feast is buffed by minion skill and results in almost 1000ES per stack giving me 24kES with overhealing. I personally run full minion skill on my gear getting up to level 29 arsonists and neglect spirit since it seems to be better on dps overall and much cheaper; sometimes minions get stuck anyway and are inefficient at higher numbers. Unfortunately even at 83% res 7k life on my minions they still die regularly on double corrupted t16s which is kind of disappointing, but i guess thats always a problem for non-spectre minions in general. Im interested to see your updated infernalist build considering some time has passed and if you still run mind over matter
You CAN see the SRS's stats! You have to have them SUMMONED, then the stats will show up. It's a pain in the ass, but it does work.
Giggity! Truly, a Pirate's Treasure of a build
If I can help...
Any melee is easy early game.
Get to the first town at lvl 2, buy a staff and put firewall and spark as your first 2 skills.
GG
I leveled my titan to 30 as caster and to 70 as grenadier. Great experience.
U dont have to play melee, just go crossbow (unique) from beginning, scalling is ok in that very first phase
You don't HAVE to play melee to get through Freythorn, you made the choice to play melee. Pick up a damn crossbow or a frost staff or something.
Can just grab a scepter and play minions from the start, just use Unearth before Raging Spirits becomes online, almost everything else is there already flame wall, Skeletal sniper, Skeletal warriors
@@carlosschlyter keep in mind when your using your very first character you wont have the gold to buy any other gear than what drops ... and your guarunteed a mace
Similar issue with monk leveling until 14. Another content creator recommended people level with lightning arrow/conduit. I ended up doing skeleton snipers and firewall.
So Kripp was right, he said Titan was gonan be the goat
It's really hard to argue with the power of that +50% on small nodes. A big chunk of max life and extra space are big quality of life benefits too. Kripp's got a point.
I dont know man. I just like your stuff. You make a hard day at work somehow a bit better. Cheers
you are using basic attack on lvl70 titan as well. That is the melee vision of PoE 2.
i personally thing skelly archers are going to become much much more common after the update. Skelly archers with their command skill were already very close to arsonists for dps for bossing but their consistent damage was way lower. However with the nerf to arsonists and skelly archers actually having a pretty good Quality boost (10% reservation cost reduction at 20%) i think they will over take arsonists. What i want to see is a build actually utilizing 2 different minions, like skelly archers AND reavers but i dont think this change will happen yet.
I want to have skeleton warrior build endgame bunch of smackers :)
I still don't get why do this? Other than for the meme? This ascendency gives you, what, 50% small node boost, 20 inventory slots, and 15% more life?
Ghazzy sitting at 3185 life, which isn't terrible but isn't great. I would expect FAR MORE life if you were going to give up everything you gain from Infernalist.... Which gives you way more spirit (give up 25% life), gives you a free minion that actually does pretty decent damage and is tanky. AND, since you go either ES or Mind over Matter, you gain even more ES or Mana traded for some of your life.
Just seems like this option is "just because" vs actually a potentially better choice?
There aren't many builds that can actually do end game and they all share a tiny skill pool. Most skills in the game are doo doo.
Thanks legend!
how does it outperform infernalist when infernalist is made for minions + you get more spirit from 3rd ascendancy for your HP
infernalist has nodes that work with minions, but I definitely wouldn't say it's made for it.
50% bonus on small nodes on tree is a LOT of generic minion power.
@@xyzqsrbo The dog and life reservation for spirit already indicates its tailored for minions. If you go through the special resource route instead, ignition and fire damage for minions. The devs have already confirmed with several content creators that Infernalist is the witch spec for minions with fire damage as flavour. My guess is that when templar and druid are introduced there will be more minion options.
Because title is clickbait lol. We dont even have POB. There is no way to tell for sure if his titan is outperforming his infernalist rofl
@@clivezilla05 It's pretty easy to see from playing both
Wouldnt Gemling just be better? it takes about the same amount of points to travel, and the gem ascendancies look very neat... + its not such a pain in the ass early :D
can you play minions without srs?
How are the unique boots that turn corpses into poison clouds?
Why go melee at all in the beginning? I don't get it? All you need is skeletal snipers, fire wall, with scatter shot and corrosion and bosses die in one shot still. You just prep 4-5 clouds before the boss spawns then detonate with firewall and the boss is down 50-75% hp in the beginning. That's how I did my Titan. Don't need minion nodes or anything to do that. It makes early start extremely easy.
I leveled this build now up to Freithorn with a wand and shield and grabbed essence drain/contagion at level 2 and 4 to skip the horrible melee leveling.
I've been considering doing something similar using a gemling merc. Now I wonder how it would stack up to this.
Skeletal storm mage might be the new play
Where do you have the skin for the shield and the cape from ? they dont show up in shop for me.
I would like to see the devs playing through the same content... the early cruel campaign... do they have a grimoire of strategy secreta? What would it take to make it bearable?
I more and more believe they have been playing with dev tools for so long they didn't know what the actual game felt like.
ive been saying it way before poe2 came out, that GGG dont want melee for whatever reason, maybe they dont know how, but look on poe1 was horrible, and now in poe2 is even worse much worse, just get rid of the class altogether if its going to perform like this.
maybe warrior melee is bad, but monk melee has been amazing and feels great. Lots of bosses are quite easy if you are hugging them
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why would you level as melee and not get a random scepter and get some skeletal archers?
early game act 1 doesn't give you a lot of flexibility in drops, and you start the tree in pure STR
Melee is just not that bad if you actually can/care to use your abilities and engage with the game tbh. Having played a titan and a monk 'melee bad' feels like a skill issue.
Skeletal Snipers on a controller are terrible, the poison clouds can barely be aimed properly.
How many hours did u spend with calculator in hideout trying to get build like this?
Has this guy made a build yet death on the minion fireball? I watched a video and it was so ridiculous. So many fireballs. It look like the whole screen was on fire
that was fixed
@@josefcayos4026 Depends what they are talking about, minion death builds are still a thing, you cast fireball it spawns srs they die which triggers your spells in cast on minion death, than repeat.
@@xyzqsrbo I don't think you can still trigger srs from autocasted spells
@@josefcayos4026 that is correct, but also not what I just said. You cast fire bal and it triggers minion death spells than you repeat doing that
I still primarily play with my default attack on lvl 67 big bonks :)
I have to say, I started a warrior and so far it is fantastic, i guess you simply chose the wrong skills
Same experience here. I don't think people who complain about warrior actually have taken the time to understand how they work
This was nerfed with latest patch right?
Gemling?
even futher away from the northern minion gems. Makes it bad.
@ lvl 73 so far and it hasn’t been that bad. Early aura attack speed and life regen
just get the unique crossbow and play with that, it's super effective and easy
is it bad that Ghazzy repeatedly complains about how traumatizing leveling warrior was in the beginning when i went through all of act 1 with a mace+shield warrior?
Wait what, arsonists been nerfed? I played maps all day and didn't notice a change... I think?
patch is not live yet
Melee is painfully sluggish might actually save gold and re spec my lvl 87 hammer of the god bleed build into minions
Where do we put the pastebin?
Isn't that how it is done in diablo 2?
You basic attack more than using skill due to potions
Just an fyi - level with bow until level 10. Super easy and fast.
I didnt know infernal hounds provided a free fire exposure, time to remove that support gem.
I will never understand why people pay money for mtx to have more visual clutter on the screen
Im really starting to think GGG had really only tuned a handful of skills and the rest are untouched. I see so many classes using the same skills like minions, anything lightning and lighting fart clouds on fire. Everything else feels so weak and not balanced. I cry knowing there is no way cyclone will work in this game.
you look like robert barone from everybody loves raymond
Can you use a bow to level?
Of course!
Honestly with mace strike + boneshatter melee is tolerable in act 1. Trying it in act 2 onwards though? Heck no.
it's amazing to me the melee is in this state, well maybe not amazing but default attack for the whole levelling experience?? wtf
Default attack, even in his example, is shit. I think people look at the DPS stats on the skills without realizing that it only count the first hit/without additional effects. Use the tools handed to you, read up on what they do, get gear in the shop and act 1 is easy cruising
Gemling Legionnaire is OP as summoner. The ascendancy skills are too good and can be used in any build
how does it work? any guide?
I tried it, but it takes 34 points until you start getting into minion nodes if you go directly there using travel nodes as much as possible. That makes this an even rougher start through act 1-3
Gemling lives in the antipodes of minion nodes.
Don't you have to wait a lot to reach the minion nodes? It feels kinda bad at the beggining, do you have any builds?
it's not. the +1 is worthless, quality even worst on minion. 30% manacost is useless for minion build.
even the double support gem is worthless since we have no spectre atm.
and also the skill tree is far.
main question: WHY warrior?
Make a minion build without srs challenge: impossible.
After the Armour Explosion nerf I'm considering this. It's a full reroll but I'm sick of how painful melee is right now and I do not want to reroll and do campaign again now that I just arrived to maps. Anybody on the same boat?
I did it just to realise that this build was nerfed too
@@davidgagnon2924 Damn, how was it nerfed? Can you please elaborate?
@@gublin21 they increased the spirit cost of skeletal arsonists meaning that you have fewer minions now
@@davidgagnon2924that bricks the build or makes it less "optimal"? I believe ghazzy was tweaking the infernalist build with more snippers
@@gublin21 yeah, idk how but I totally skipped the part where he speaks about the incoming nerf, I went straight to the build itself... it looks fine, the nerf isnt to be bad
"draught" is pronounced the same as "draft"
Ty!
Nifty, so did I read chayula monk right, ... and they pote tally get some crazy 400 extra spirit by level 100 on top of any fromngear or quests?
now it goes away if they take dmg or something, but still seems like a fun abuse case if its true.
Same build different class; alright bud xd
Imy trying to make gemling melee minions work :D
So we are buying a unique to level lol that's true experience
Where is the moboanalytics version that word sanskrit poe db is trash. LOL I will just follow the video guide lol
This is POE 1 all over again ..whenever there is a build that is good for minions they nerf the s***t out of it ... Thx GGG, why dont you just remove minions from game, it will save you the time to nerf every single minion build until no one will play them
wtf, I just switched from stampede to this to now realize that this one got nerf too.... fck me
Melee is too ez to play for me
In trials too? Lol. That honour is going down to zero real fast. The sanctum alone is designed to avoid damage and getting hit at all costs, and you can't do that as melee.
It still feels bad even if it is easy.
melee to 90 xD
isnt this kripps infernalist build?
Oh yes, we Warriors know how bad melee is XD I have given feedback on how bad it is. It doesn't really get better for the Warrior for the most part. Your list of actual viable skills is very low, and neutral game is very slow. Default Attack is something you are going to be using a lot , especially if you build defensive first.
can't wait to no life get this build up and running to have it nerf 2 days later like the last 3 characters I leveled
imagine saying melee is boring, but walking simulator minion build isnt
Melee is an absolute pain in the a**. There are melee classes that clear faster like monk but Good Lord, the warrior leveling with pure melee experience makes you want to unalive. SRS Witch burns through everything while still requiring dodge and attention. Melee warrior makes you feel like a random watered down blue mob struggling in every minor combat. You are supposed to be the MC not a suffering NPC.
I entered your multi dollar giveaways and i did not win and i don't like it! Its shit!
but infernalis give doggo 🥹
Booooreeeeiiing, another SRS+Skeletal Arsonist build! 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 Can't you guys come up with something else? Well it's probably more of a problem of these 2 skills outpreform any other minion setup by miles.