Been abusing my medication by crushing, snorting, and mixing with alcohol for a few months. Personally Ive had the worst come downs and withdrawals since taking those medications. Finally on the path to sobriety though (: watching this video to encourage me to keep going.
I don’t think I abused Ritalin since I only took as many as I was prescribed, however some things scared me at the time of taking it and So I completely stopped taking it, it’s been 5 months but I’ve never felt depression like this and also had weird mood swings. But they are getting better now
I have been watching your videos to learn about addiction since My mother is an addict. I have been wondering, how come when I have to take my adhd meds, which is adderall xr 20mg twice a day. Lately I have been getting a really strong feeling to not take it. Idk how to describe it. When I try to explain this to others they don’t understand. Like it’s like a strong hate towards it. I even hate the sound it makes when I take it. Makes me want to puke. Idk if my mother has this feeling but she ignores it and takes her pills anyway. Btw I don’t live with her, I am safe and I have had to burn the bridges.
So when a neurotypical person abuses stimulants the withdrawal feelings they experience will give them an insight into what it's like for ADHD sufferers to deal with every day. Good to know.
Coffee and nicotine work for me, it’s not abusable at low doses, the effects are much longer lasting and I don’t have to constantly see my doctor for a script, the stress and anxiety about an unreliable source for medication is not worth being on a prescription stimulant in opinion. If you know coffee and nicotine are abused and the side effects of abuse like alcohol, you can live a longer life and be more productive 🍻 avoid abuse, don’t play chemist and treat your body like a temple, it’s not a trash bag you put crap into. PS, my doc recommended coffee and nicotine as alternative adhd treatment because of my concerns with prescriptions
I wouldn’t say I am “Addicted” to stimulants, I use Vyvanse for binge eating disorder and ADD. I can say, I am definitely dependent on them. I have never wanted to take more than prescribed and really have no craving for them.
The science of addiction is fascinating, and the more we understand the closer we get to conquering this problem. If you like this video, and want to know more about the addicted brain check out www.hopeforfamiliesrecoverycenter.com
I also drink a lot of Alcohol. Addiction runs in my family very badly, it resulted in a lot of trauma in my childhood I’m scared for myself I’m some what in denial and some what not sure if I’m ok or not, sorry for burdening you with my problems lol I just don’t know where to go or who to say this to
sad bwan I think you’re definitely beginning to realize the magnitude of the issue, because you’re searching out information online. It’s a sign that you’re are thinking about whether or not you want to continue down this path. You may not have a full blown addiction yet but you have the right background and current circumstances to become an addict. It’s smart of you to be stopping to think about your decisions like this.
I’m 16 and idk if I’m abusing adderall and Ritalin, I am prescribed adderall but not Ritalin, I take double the dose of adderall then I need to and when I run out I steal my grandpas Ritalin, I’m not taking like way too much but so I don’t no if it’s classified as abuse or addiction... it’s awful I feel so guilty about taking my grandpas meds but it’s a overwhelming feeling of numbness and dullness when I don’t have meds. They ease my depression and bpd and make me happy and motivated, I also went from 160 to 137 in 2 months and I would say I’ve definitely developed a eating disorder.
sad bwan hi Saf bawn, I think it’s smart that you’re watching out for those signs and educating yourself. it definitely sounds like you might be on your way to developing an addiction. Have you ever been caught stealing your grandpas meds?
My brother has adhd (he’s prescribed Vyvanse) and I’m not sure if Im addicted (I don’t have adhd and I don’t need the drug) I usually take around 2/3 pills weekly and I feel like if I stop it gives me a really bad craving for them even tho when I take them the “high” is always horrible because it always feels like I’m gonna overdose and idk what to do I’m only on grade 8 and don’t wanna get into harder drugs
If you don’t have ADHD then you really shouldn’t be taking Vyvanse. I’m not trying to lecture you because honestly an occasional day once every few months to get extra studying done won’t hurt you . But on a regular basis (especially since you don’t need it) you will start chasing the euphoria that it gives you. Even if your brother allows you to take his meds you shouldn’t.
There's a fine line between abuse and doctors prescribing higher doses than the brain needs for an extended duration. I'm pretty much the perfect example of that, after 15 years of being on too high a dose of dexamphetamine. My brain has never been the same since and even after stopped for a year, it didn't heal. This is all from prescription. 4 years since, going off and on, I'm still trying to find the answer. It's awful. But yeh still haven't given up. Just difficult when all the doctors i see, including ADHD psychiatrists, don't understand this and what I'm going through. At the very least they should understand the role of those key neurotransmitters esp dopamine, and the risks these drugs pose. If I even mention dopamine, i get a blank look. And these people are the ones responsible for distributing stimulants. Again and again, I'm just labelled as the standard patient with depression. Basically have to do my own research to find an answer which is a huge struggle and effort. I've been essentially bedridden for 4 years now trying to recover from this. Even the word depression is extremely vague. I can have no energy at all and feel like crap, yet my emotional mood can be okay. I was actually a lot more in a depressed state years ago (suicidal wise) and was still doing more in the day than i am now because I still had enough dopamine to keep me motivated to do at least some things. I wasn't bedridden like i am now. It's a very different feeling to withdrawal, just appears the same on the outside to people who aren't experiencing it because both carry the symptom of having reduced motivation and energy. At least with depression, there are usually some days where it's better. Withdrawal, there are almost none. At least for me. Can only hope that my brain will somehow heal; but it's difficult when there's no assurance or estimation of time. (Great video by the way. None of what I said was to object; just helping other people understand)
@@aprilhassell1747 I'm not. That was purely desperation and running out of solutions. Also from doctors advice so shows how much they know. I'm off dex completely now and also reducing alcohol. All these dependency drugs have only made it worsen and I've learned the hard way that the only way to reach homeostasis is to be off them so my brain can heal and generate these chemicals naturally. It will no doubt take a long time tho but no choice. I went to a rehab centre the first time I went off and only one person at that place had heard of PAWS, and it was a nurse. Pretty scary thought. I've yet to see a psychiatrist who even has an idea what a crash is. So i don't even see anyone anymore as apparently there's no doctor in my city with enough knowledge of neuroscience. For some reason my other message disappeared about contacting but I'm on Reddit under the username mt-Room if you want to discuss anything. Sorry to hear you have been struggling also.
If you prescribed by your doctor it’s in your system in your body goes to all of the withdraws for a year or so automatically labeled as an addict but if you take antidepressants and have side effects that’s normal🤷♀️
I didnt abuse my prescription and i literally got side-effects from taking it and also had a lot of life stress happening at the time I noticed the side-effects. I tried going down in dose and i still had a weird reaction and zombie like feeling. Intensification. It was horrible but then after the crash my withdrawing symptoms started. Unreal the symptoms I felt. I literally cried everydaybfor 2 months. Inwas on concerta low dose 18mg. So just letting you know ppl that dont abuse it can still have the horrible withdrawing and even PAWS. Everyone is different. Im so glad im not on it anymore. I remember feeling like I was never content and never stopped to smell the roses.
Been abusing my medication by crushing, snorting, and mixing with alcohol for a few months. Personally Ive had the worst come downs and withdrawals since taking those medications. Finally on the path to sobriety though (: watching this video to encourage me to keep going.
Hi Jr, your commitment to change is very respectable!
I abused adderall heavily but I never had a "crash" besides being sleepy. Feel lucky that withdrawal was always fairly smooth.
I’m having the opposite experience and am happy for you but also highly envious
@@nancyc.5535 same
Thank you for making and sharing this video. Your presentation and explanations are so so helpful.
So glad it was helpful, Carolyn 😃
I don’t think I abused Ritalin since I only took as many as I was prescribed, however some things scared me at the time of taking it and So I completely stopped taking it, it’s been 5 months but I’ve never felt depression like this and also had weird mood swings. But they are getting better now
Christopher Ray sounds you’re getting in the other side of it. Good for you!
This is happening to me currently. Cant wait to be 6 months and see how ive recovered
I have been watching your videos to learn about addiction since My mother is an addict. I have been wondering, how come when I have to take my adhd meds, which is adderall xr 20mg twice a day. Lately I have been getting a really strong feeling to not take it. Idk how to describe it. When I try to explain this to others they don’t understand. Like it’s like a strong hate towards it. I even hate the sound it makes when I take it. Makes me want to puke. Idk if my mother has this feeling but she ignores it and takes her pills anyway. Btw I don’t live with her, I am safe and I have had to burn the bridges.
Why do you think you're having that feeling? Is it because you don't want to be dependent on a substance?
So when a neurotypical person abuses stimulants the withdrawal feelings they experience will give them an insight into what it's like for ADHD sufferers to deal with every day. Good to know.
Coffee and nicotine work for me, it’s not abusable at low doses, the effects are much longer lasting and I don’t have to constantly see my doctor for a script, the stress and anxiety about an unreliable source for medication is not worth being on a prescription stimulant in opinion.
If you know coffee and nicotine are abused and the side effects of abuse like alcohol, you can live a longer life and be more productive 🍻 avoid abuse, don’t play chemist and treat your body like a temple, it’s not a trash bag you put crap into.
PS, my doc recommended coffee and nicotine as alternative adhd treatment because of my concerns with prescriptions
Has that worked 10m later? Having same issues wondering a good alternative
I wouldn’t say I am “Addicted” to stimulants, I use Vyvanse for binge eating disorder and ADD. I can say, I am definitely dependent on them. I have never wanted to take more than prescribed and really have no craving for them.
Good insight Nick. There's a difference between dependency and addiction.
Lucky you
The science of addiction is fascinating, and the more we understand the closer we get to conquering this problem. If you like this video, and want to know more about the addicted brain check out www.hopeforfamiliesrecoverycenter.com
I also drink a lot of Alcohol. Addiction runs in my family very badly, it resulted in a lot of trauma in my childhood I’m scared for myself I’m some what in denial and some what not sure if I’m ok or not, sorry for burdening you with my problems lol I just don’t know where to go or who to say this to
sad bwan I think you’re definitely beginning to realize the magnitude of the issue, because you’re searching out information online. It’s a sign that you’re are thinking about whether or not you want to continue down this path. You may not have a full blown addiction yet but you have the right background and current circumstances to become an addict. It’s smart of you to be stopping to think about your decisions like this.
I’m 16 and idk if I’m abusing adderall and Ritalin, I am prescribed adderall but not Ritalin, I take double the dose of adderall then I need to and when I run out I steal my grandpas Ritalin, I’m not taking like way too much but so I don’t no if it’s classified as abuse or addiction... it’s awful I feel so guilty about taking my grandpas meds but it’s a overwhelming feeling of numbness and dullness when I don’t have meds. They ease my depression and bpd and make me happy and motivated, I also went from 160 to 137 in 2 months and I would say I’ve definitely developed a eating disorder.
sad bwan hi Saf bawn, I think it’s smart that you’re watching out for those signs and educating yourself. it definitely sounds like you might be on your way to developing an addiction. Have you ever been caught stealing your grandpas meds?
In the same position rn
Hey man what is your discord, I wanna talk about this and see how youre doing a. year later. Having the same problems and am concerned for myself
@@how775 Any update? Having the same problems right now and am concerned for myself. Wanna see how youre doin
My brother has adhd (he’s prescribed Vyvanse) and I’m not sure if Im addicted (I don’t have adhd and I don’t need the drug) I usually take around 2/3 pills weekly and I feel like if I stop it gives me a really bad craving for them even tho when I take them the “high” is always horrible because it always feels like I’m gonna overdose and idk what to do I’m only on grade 8 and don’t wanna get into harder drugs
If you don’t have ADHD then you really shouldn’t be taking Vyvanse. I’m not trying to lecture you because honestly an occasional day once every few months to get extra studying done won’t hurt you . But on a regular basis (especially since you don’t need it) you will start chasing the euphoria that it gives you. Even if your brother allows you to take his meds you shouldn’t.
Hey man what is your discord, I wanna talk about this and see how youre doing a. year later. Having the same problems and am concerned for myself
There's a fine line between abuse and doctors prescribing higher doses than the brain needs for an extended duration. I'm pretty much the perfect example of that, after 15 years of being on too high a dose of dexamphetamine. My brain has never been the same since and even after stopped for a year, it didn't heal. This is all from prescription. 4 years since, going off and on, I'm still trying to find the answer. It's awful. But yeh still haven't given up. Just difficult when all the doctors i see, including ADHD psychiatrists, don't understand this and what I'm going through. At the very least they should understand the role of those key neurotransmitters esp dopamine, and the risks these drugs pose. If I even mention dopamine, i get a blank look. And these people are the ones responsible for distributing stimulants. Again and again, I'm just labelled as the standard patient with depression. Basically have to do my own research to find an answer which is a huge struggle and effort. I've been essentially bedridden for 4 years now trying to recover from this.
Even the word depression is extremely vague. I can have no energy at all and feel like crap, yet my emotional mood can be okay. I was actually a lot more in a depressed state years ago (suicidal wise) and was still doing more in the day than i am now because I still had enough dopamine to keep me motivated to do at least some things. I wasn't bedridden like i am now. It's a very different feeling to withdrawal, just appears the same on the outside to people who aren't experiencing it because both carry the symptom of having reduced motivation and energy. At least with depression, there are usually some days where it's better. Withdrawal, there are almost none. At least for me. Can only hope that my brain will somehow heal; but it's difficult when there's no assurance or estimation of time.
(Great video by the way. None of what I said was to object; just helping other people understand)
This is currently my situation but a bit different. Love to connect with you.
Going back on and off is probably not helping your situation.
@@aprilhassell1747
I'm not. That was purely desperation and running out of solutions. Also from doctors advice so shows how much they know. I'm off dex completely now and also reducing alcohol. All these dependency drugs have only made it worsen and I've learned the hard way that the only way to reach homeostasis is to be off them so my brain can heal and generate these chemicals naturally. It will no doubt take a long time tho but no choice. I went to a rehab centre the first time I went off and only one person at that place had heard of PAWS, and it was a nurse. Pretty scary thought. I've yet to see a psychiatrist who even has an idea what a crash is. So i don't even see anyone anymore as apparently there's no doctor in my city with enough knowledge of neuroscience.
For some reason my other message disappeared about contacting but I'm on Reddit under the username mt-Room if you want to discuss anything. Sorry to hear you have been struggling also.
If you prescribed by your doctor it’s in your system in your body goes to all of the withdraws for a year or so automatically labeled as an addict but if you take antidepressants and have side effects that’s normal🤷♀️
EXACTLY. Not taking my SSRI is WAY worse than my adhd meds. I don’t get it?
I didnt abuse my prescription and i literally got side-effects from taking it and also had a lot of life stress happening at the time I noticed the side-effects. I tried going down in dose and i still had a weird reaction and zombie like feeling. Intensification. It was horrible but then after the crash my withdrawing symptoms started. Unreal the symptoms I felt. I literally cried everydaybfor 2 months. Inwas on concerta low dose 18mg. So just letting you know ppl that dont abuse it can still have the horrible withdrawing and even PAWS. Everyone is different. Im so glad im not on it anymore. I remember feeling like I was never content and never stopped to smell the roses.
Adderall is just an amphetamine not a meth amphetamine
Differences?
Caffine
I use elvanse (vyvanse) 130 mg. But since the last couple of weeks I get serious nassua
that's A LOT!
@@anastasia3069 really !?! I used to be on 210 mg 3x 70 mg