Thank you for the comments! Trying to respond to as many comments as possible is becoming more and more difficult each video. On one hand, I am very happy that so many people are enjoying my content; on the other hand, I feel sorry that I miss some comments (youtube stopped giving me notifications for half of the comments). If I don't respond to your comment, it is probably because TH-cam hasn't notified me, sorry for that!
Hey can you do what is the best line up team for personas? Like I just finished the 3 palace and i want to find out what kind of perona's, for example, persona's high in fire,ice,thunder, ailment, gun resistance should i use for rest of the game. I know its not like pokemon where you can build teams to fit your playstyle, but i think it would be cool to see some team building videos
Some tips: - Your allies all get specific buffs/debuffs. Try and learn what they specialize in, and have at least one persona that covers their buff gaps. - You will want to keep the Protagonist as a Curse user. Giving him Bless is good too. This is mostly because you don't get the sole Curse/Bless party member until very late in the game. - Again, knowing your allies' magic types and building around that is optimal. If you're fielding Morgana, you may not need a Wind user, but you might want to have a defense against Electric. There are no "best personas" - as this video shows, the higher a persona's level, the less likely you are to be able to minmax its stats. However, with that said, try and find personas that match your general playstyle. Here are a few things I like to do: - Turn off Persona Memory, and put all of the Auto-Ma[buff]s on one persona. Set that persona to your main persona. Persona Memory remembers the persona you equipped during battle. Turning it off means that you can create a persona that essentially auto-Heat Risers your entire party for free! - There's only one revive-and-massheal character in this game, so don't skimp on healing spells on the protagonist. He's going to end up being the only source for some of the important ones. - Make sure you get Spell and Attack Master. They are very important.
Personally I wouldn't have a persona with so low Luck unless you put Unshaken Will ! After all Luck is Ailments & Instant Death Resistances. Attack Master is arguable since you will use Mediarahan/Salvation at end game.
Getting max Street would that help greatly on sertaon bosses on merciless I made it just but I would have been so much easier if I had worked on them huh yalbadoth was the certain boss I was speaking of well I'm done with merciless mode finally hell of adventure I'm not prooveing much doing it except how much I like pain my joints ache just like after the extra boss next time ill have the orb I might use it wonder if that helps against the charged attack it seems weaker if less at.s are up so how do I max life if posable with out cheating and willit feel like cheating I guess that attack will kill on any mode unless sabotaged I don't know though I will find out thank to your other vids I will use paradise lost I wanted to face him at an unfair disadvantage no special weapons even though I have some ready for me 3rd play through
aznpanda510x I know right?! That was so frustrating. I immediately resummoned him only to find out he stops getting skills 6 levels later. Such nonsense. Arsene should've been able to keep getting skills like the companion Personas... But that's okay. I fully intend to give him the love he deserve on my next playthrough. I intend to make him an absolute Monster worthy of the fear everyone showed when he was first awakening.
LMAO SAME!!!! AFter i got him past lvl 6.... i was like WTF IS THS BULLSHIT. I wanted him to have a 2nd stage. I KNOW there that "dude" at the end but to me. That a whole new persona. Not Arsene, i thought the "2nd" time we see him. He will join back my party and have new skill. NOPE he just want to talk to me.
aznpanda510x Seriously! Don't get me wrong, the final Persona was fucking badass. But he's essentially I plot device more than a Persona. I know you can fuse him in NG+, but he's basically a separate entity to Arsene in my opinion, regardless of his story relationship to Arsene. I feel like Arsene was more of a symbol instead of a viable option. There's little incentive to keep him around. Hell, they actively push you to, as you stated, "Chuck him in the trash like a used condom." Which isn't even remotely an exaggeration. It's just disappointing. *Warning - Spoiler Alert Ahead* I'm gonna research some good builds and make him a fearsome entity worthy of being the Advent of Satanael. That was such a badass cutscenes and it really got undermined by the fact that Arsene and Satanael couldn't be further apart in power. Not to mention he comes out of nowhere considering you Guillotine him 15 minutes in and his only role after is Mister Exposition.
aznpanda510x Is that Riot Gun? I haven't made him yet because of how expensive high end fusions can be. I take it that's how you get Riot Gun as a skill card to teach other Personas? That seems to be a popular one for Arsene.
I actually made the very same to Arsene but had Black Viper and Vorpal Blade til I got to Shido's palace (Str En Agi) now Im goin to do the same again on my PS3 version P5 (since I cant use my online storage or I'll get an error bout not having the DLCs 😑 I hate that bout the game..)
I did an Arsene-only run after 100%'ing my initial run, and I have to say the only bits that gave me trouble was Madarame's palace and Okumura's palace. At the time of Madarame's palace, enemies are getting tougher yet Arsene can't learn new skills at that point. The boss battle against Shadow Madarame is also a bit of a nightmare. Meanwhile, Okumura's palace had a lot of physical-resistant enemies which meant SP was guzzled a lot, but it was the same in my regular run. For reference, I started the run on a fresh save file (for extra challenge) and went for an Almighty build with Null Bless, Null Ice, Reflect Phys, and Makougaon for coverage. Can't remember every skill I had though, haha.
these privileged people who have only played persona 5 and don't understand the true horror and pain of having to x+circle for the skills you want stuff like nocturne still gives me nightmares man
IloveEmilia andRem My opinion is that Prioritising two stats is easier/quicker then focusing on 1 because 1 will make you lose your sanity and those moments when your so used to press X and O you accidentally cancel the 1 stat you wanted, every time that happens it completely shatters my mind
I'm really sad that they don't give the Protagonist's Persona more love. I mean, I know they're supposed to be the first one and therefore not very good - but it'd be awesome to see some more progression with it so it doesn't become useless after so many early levels. Like it'd be cool to see Arsene legitimately get some strong physical skills and magic skills and have balanced stats. It really sucks having to abandon the Persona that saved the lives of my friends (which led to them getting their Personas) just because they aren't going to learn skills that are strong enough to warrant their stats.
+PokemonTrainer77 It's fine, because as always, the initial Persona of the protagonist becomes his ultimate Persona in the end. And at least this game has strengthening options. P3P had the ability to raise stats through arcade stuff, which was honestly better for stats, but being able to sacrifice Personas to strengthen one is very handy.
Still - I just want to be able to do, say a solo persona run. The entire party works together to beat the enemy with each member having a distinct advantage and disadvantage. Kinda want Persona 6's first playthrough to lock the protagonist to their primary and canon persona - and no Personas are required to do social links and get rank ups with them - and that's just the canon storyline. Then when you unlock the NG+, you get the Power of the Fool Arcana, are able to freely switch - and all enemies get a massive boost in their stats leading the game to be sensibly more difficult.
PokemonTrainer77 not having the fool Arcana prevents you from doing the journey to begin with tho. Every journey in the persona games (except the first 2 I think, I never played them) had 1 person with the fool to start the journey. If you don't have one not only do I think it's impossible to even start it but even if it was you wouldn't get far with everyone only having 1 persona. The entire party would end up dying. Just look at the animes. Had the protagonists not had the ability to use multiple personas they'd all have died. If you really want to use 1 persona then no ones stopping you but I highly doubt you'd last that long.
Yay! you maxxed an Arsene for me Sephi-kun, still... I wish they put a bit more thought into the main characters persona when it came to normal leveling.
Dude you're amazing. People on persona 5 game forums don't know how this work. Didn't even know sacrificing personas that give less EXP lets you narrow the stats you want to boost significantly. You're the best
I'm glad you addressed why personas above level 80 aren't good damage dealers. I was wondering if it was just my imagination, but it seems like stats make much more of a difference in this game than they did in the previous ones. This makes what I was seeing make a lot more sense. Great video, man.
You could maybe NEARLY max one stat for messiah normal, lvl 81 i think, he's the onlly persona who learns almighty boost naturally so just focus on magic and network fuse for almighty amp or somefink
Wow, first time I heard a TH-camr says to press dislike if they dislike the video. Usually TH-camrs would say the other way round. But I don't dislike the video. Good guide by the way.
I've actually heard it from someone else so I thought "hey, as someone who is watching, this is actually a good thing" so I think I will keep it from now on. Many subscribed people or fans will like a video as soon as it starts without seeing all of it. I feel like if you think the content is not up to the standard of the other ones, you should probably dislike it even if it's like your favourite youtuber (and maybe leave some feedback on why and how it could be improved)
did this for 8 hours yesterday. i felt like i was gonna DIE. went down for dinner afterwards and everywhere i looked i saw the persona stats screen, and i kept hearing voices whispering something to me... NANI O NAI ON DEIRU
Got Kaguya from base (lvl 16) to lvl 94.. cost roughly 4.25 million yen and took about 3 - 3½ hours. Just to give you an idea of how much time and money it takes.
Hey. Can ask some questions. I still abit confuse. Basically up personal, use what to sacrifice is batter? Is that high level or just normal same level?
@@thomascash2859 when you level up a persona and focus on some stats and not the total stats you must use a fodder that is lower level. If u use a fodder that has the same level the stats will always be in total and not focused on what you want. I have has the same problem of you and i was still able to get an Alice with 80 in magic
Atlus just registered a bunch of trademarks including P5R and Persona 6, Persona 7, and Persona 8. Alot are saying P5R is Persona 5 Red which is like Persona 4 golden since Persona 5 uses Red as its theme and P4 used gold as its theme so P5R is probably a re-release of Persona 5 with extra content such as the Aeon Arcana from previous games. The other things are self explanatory. With the huge success of P5 its pretty obvious that Atlus will want to make more games in the franchise hence why they registered P6, P7, and P8
Really hope that an enhanced version of Persona 5 is a few years away at best. I don't like the idea of paying for an enhanced version of a game that I've already paid full price for.
WTF?! You could delete your Persona?! Damn I've beaten this game twice and I never even knew that lol thanks for the tips man gonna make my life a whole lot easier
Bought Persona 5 when i got my PS4 in january because i heard so much good stuff about it and it massively exceeded those expectations that i had. I finished the game about a week ago now i'm on NG+ and i'm gonna try to make an OP persona with this technique. I figured i was not gonna have fun playing NG+ and I wouldn't play it at all but starting NG+ and seeing what i can still do (max all confidants before ending the game, find all locations(cuz somehow i still missed some Q.Q) and all the other stuff for trophies :)) Thanks a lot for these videos of yours, this inspired me to go on after i finished the first playthrough!
It's kinda weird how Arsene is the only initial Persona that's weak to two types. Everyone else in your party is only weak to one. Captain Kidd = Wind Zorro = Electric Carmen = Ice Goemon = Fire Johanna = Psychokinesis Milady = Nuclear Robin Hood = Curse Arsene = Bless.......and also Ice.
Lmao. At least he has a darkness resistance. Now imagine a persona with 2 weaknesses, with no resistances and one of it's weakness is instant kill. You don't need to. Look at Orpheus in his OG game. Worse initial persona in the entire series
In persona 3 you have no strengths an two weaknesses: Lightning and Darkness. It was a metaphor for how shocked you will be at how hard and dark the game is.
very informative video bro, keep up the fantastic work! so glad you channel is growing so rapidly, its a great thing to see in such a short space of time. You deserve it
cheers bro. Thank to you videos im learning something new about the game every day, I didn't even know that if you exit and re-enter the gallows fusion page that the stats bonuses change. That will be so helpful in future.
This is very informative, and explained why I couldn't get Messiah's stats to increase when I decided on him to be my Confusion Grinder. I think I'll use someone lower-levelled now.
Quality content. Because min-maxing is important for some people (including me). I like how you made the point to use low level fodder, that's my problem coz I couldn't get the stats I want since I kept using the treasure demon (and thus gains too much levels).
this is a really tedious process and you need to have a lot of patience. but if you manage that, you’d be able to enjoy sitting on top of everything in this game lol. my endgame personas are satanael: one-shot kill and riot gun asura: atomic flare and cosmic flare alice: black viper and megidolaon black frost: diamond dust and ice age siegfried: god’s hand and gigantomachia attis: inferno and blazing hell vishnu: panta rhei and vacuum wave kohryu: psycho force and psycho blast metatron: kougaon and makougaon beelzebub: aeigaon and maeigaon odin: thunder reign and wild thunder ishtar: medic all of them have their respective boost and amp, as well as magic ability. i also covered all of their weaknesses, and they have 89 stats in ma or st,depending on their specialty. i equip that nataraja and the crystal skull for +10 on all stats so that becomes 99 lol
I never realized that about the stats, no wonder my black ooze was so much better in damaging opponents, hell its luck was also incredibly high at level 40 compared to my level 70 summoned demons
My first Persona. I try for securing the route on the first day, currently in the final vault at Kaneshiro's palace (hope I spelled it right). Level 20 on merciless. Damn that Demon Lord fight was hard. I won after like 6 tries then when on my way back to the safe house the weird camera mechanic got me. Had to do it all over again till the last chamber. Threw at least a zillion controllers in my head.
Maxing out Arsene's core stats... Only to render him unable to actually UTILIZE those stats with actual attack skills. Someone wants the Twins to royally mess him up.
You'er a truly humble person, I appreciate your content and when you said you going to release a video tomorrow to explain everything clear, of course I'm tuning in. Keep up the good work my friend! ; )
I used gallows to make a Persona that would be immune, repel, or absorb literally everything except fire, which it was still strong against. That was a fun process that let me completely trounce the twins fight.
I read somewhere that the fastest enemy only has 75 agility. So you can get away with having only 75 + the 10 from equipment. Not sure if it's true, but either way, it looks cool having 99 lol.
I used to use whatever gave me the highest amount of exp when I played through the game. It's only when I tried min maxing that I noticed it was better to level up slowly
Honest question, is this even necessary? i beat the secret boss without doing this with only a bit of bad luck killing me (seriously fuck the random criticals) but other than that i dont think there is a real reason to do this?
Yeah no actual need to do this. This is mostly for completionists or people who enjoy min maxing. I played through the whole game twice and platinum'd the game without doing this, but after that I just felt like experimenting with random stuff (like the passives-only Arsene I made in this video)
Elude irkz no really its not necessary to do and it's just simply a means of minmaxing/ getting the perfect persona for personal gain. i have beaten the twins with a goonsquad of captured personas, with a few that i actually properly fused and inherited. so while its not needed to have something like that on video, it makes it easier.
This is just how it is with RPG players there's an instinct to want to be more power or rich even when it's unnecessary, working to get real powerful has a satisfying feeling to it.... although it's also the same reason why we buy 99 potions in JRPGs or loot everything and preserve it all WRPGs and never use them.
If there was a way of online vs Yes but since this is single player only no but fun for some people Its like pokemon iv hard time comsuming but you rekt shit in mp
Its a shame all those cool looking end game personas will never be as powerful as the ones you level using this method though. I guess you could just transfer over any skills you wanted from those.
Is it not possible to min/max by using Treasure Demons? I understand that they grant more exp, but if the Persona is increasing in stats in the areas you desire, why wouldn't you use Treasure Demons to speed up the process? I.e. Treasure Demon grants 3 levels and increases STR, END, and AGI upon level up, and I continue to exit/re-enter until those stats are selected every time?
Nice video, I've been loving your Persona 5 content since I stumbled upon it, really useful information. I know you did a video on the Personas with the strongest skills in the game already, but would you consider doing one about how to which Personas give out the more powerful/useful Skill Cards through itemization? Either way, keep up the good work!
This is freaking awesome because this means that Arsene can be actually usefull and badass in NG+ and you can use him as your main persona (mostly, obviously not entirely lol) like your other teammates do with theirs. Great video, I will certainly take my time to do this.
Tip: If it only levels up to 1, try to go for only a single stat increase. It will give it 3 points instead of 1. For example, if only MA will increase, it will give it 3 points if your persona only levels up by one. That’s how I made my Arsene op in this game
So refreshing having a CC day if you didn’t like his work, leave a dislike. And very straightforward with the info, I had no idea of this method (critical thinking might not be my strongest point lmao)
No matter how hard I try, I can't get to 99 in any stat for Alice or Satanael (i think those are the names) with alice, the highest state I could get to was 80, and Satanael ended stuck with around 60.
Before I clicked on the video and I saw the thumbnail, I thought to myself: "Eh, this looks like clickbait". Fortunately I was wrong. ^_^ Thanks for uploading this.
Is there no facilities to increase persona stats? Like if we refer back to persona 3, if we play on arcade our persona can get increase stat by 1 each time playing, so its taking long time but honest work into making a persona has 99 stat on every stat be it strength, magic, endurance, agility and luck
Is it possible to start these projects earlier in the game? Seems really out of the way if you're already at endgame when you do this, and having them early makes their EXP-Gains come at a more natural pace. It might also be cheaper. (might)
Hey quick question, so can you do this with any Persona? if you can when you start New Game+ will you be able to buy them from the compendium as early as you can? (Kamoshida Palace)
Quick question. Would you say Sandalphon is a good Persona for the secret boss? I just did the Reaper Despair exploit and I fused a Sandalphon who is level 88 while I'm at 80. He has Auto-Matarukaja, Megidolaon, Angelic Grace, Repel Curse, that grave-phys attack, Marakunda, Matarunda, and High Counter. He also has 60 Magic. I have an Alice for Concentrate although she has 63 Magic.
Thank you for the comments! Trying to respond to as many comments as possible is becoming more and more difficult each video. On one hand, I am very happy that so many people are enjoying my content; on the other hand, I feel sorry that I miss some comments (youtube stopped giving me notifications for half of the comments). If I don't respond to your comment, it is probably because TH-cam hasn't notified me, sorry for that!
Hey can you do what is the best line up team for personas? Like I just finished the 3 palace and i want to find out what kind of perona's, for example, persona's high in fire,ice,thunder, ailment, gun resistance should i use for rest of the game. I know its not like pokemon where you can build teams to fit your playstyle, but i think it would be cool to see some team building videos
Some tips:
- Your allies all get specific buffs/debuffs. Try and learn what they specialize in, and have at least one persona that covers their buff gaps.
- You will want to keep the Protagonist as a Curse user. Giving him Bless is good too. This is mostly because you don't get the sole Curse/Bless party member until very late in the game.
- Again, knowing your allies' magic types and building around that is optimal. If you're fielding Morgana, you may not need a Wind user, but you might want to have a defense against Electric.
There are no "best personas" - as this video shows, the higher a persona's level, the less likely you are to be able to minmax its stats. However, with that said, try and find personas that match your general playstyle. Here are a few things I like to do:
- Turn off Persona Memory, and put all of the Auto-Ma[buff]s on one persona. Set that persona to your main persona. Persona Memory remembers the persona you equipped during battle. Turning it off means that you can create a persona that essentially auto-Heat Risers your entire party for free!
- There's only one revive-and-massheal character in this game, so don't skimp on healing spells on the protagonist. He's going to end up being the only source for some of the important ones.
- Make sure you get Spell and Attack Master. They are very important.
Personally I wouldn't have a persona with so low Luck unless you put Unshaken Will !
After all Luck is Ailments & Instant Death Resistances.
Attack Master is arguable since you will use Mediarahan/Salvation at end game.
Bro thank you for your guide!!!
Getting max Street would that help greatly on sertaon bosses on merciless I made it just but I would have been so much easier if I had worked on them huh yalbadoth was the certain boss I was speaking of well I'm done with merciless mode finally hell of adventure I'm not prooveing much doing it except how much I like pain my joints ache just like after the extra boss next time ill have the orb I might use it wonder if that helps against the charged attack it seems weaker if less at.s are up so how do I max life if posable with out cheating and willit feel like cheating I guess that attack will kill on any mode unless sabotaged I don't know though I will find out thank to your other vids I will use paradise lost I wanted to face him at an unfair disadvantage no special weapons even though I have some ready for me 3rd play through
Atlus threw away Arsene like a used condom. Before i can even get attach to him. They want me to fuse him with my high elf.
aznpanda510x I know right?! That was so frustrating. I immediately resummoned him only to find out he stops getting skills 6 levels later. Such nonsense. Arsene should've been able to keep getting skills like the companion Personas... But that's okay. I fully intend to give him the love he deserve on my next playthrough. I intend to make him an absolute Monster worthy of the fear everyone showed when he was first awakening.
LMAO SAME!!!! AFter i got him past lvl 6.... i was like WTF IS THS BULLSHIT. I wanted him to have a 2nd stage. I KNOW there that "dude" at the end but to me. That a whole new persona. Not Arsene, i thought the "2nd" time we see him. He will join back my party and have new skill. NOPE he just want to talk to me.
aznpanda510x Seriously! Don't get me wrong, the final Persona was fucking badass. But he's essentially I plot device more than a Persona. I know you can fuse him in NG+, but he's basically a separate entity to Arsene in my opinion, regardless of his story relationship to Arsene. I feel like Arsene was more of a symbol instead of a viable option. There's little incentive to keep him around. Hell, they actively push you to, as you stated, "Chuck him in the trash like a used condom." Which isn't even remotely an exaggeration. It's just disappointing.
*Warning - Spoiler Alert Ahead*
I'm gonna research some good builds and make him a fearsome entity worthy of being the Advent of Satanael. That was such a badass cutscenes and it really got undermined by the fact that Arsene and Satanael couldn't be further apart in power. Not to mention he comes out of nowhere considering you Guillotine him 15 minutes in and his only role after is Mister Exposition.
Yeah, you can get that perfect stats, The final persona only had 1 skill that good but his stats was fucked up
aznpanda510x Is that Riot Gun? I haven't made him yet because of how expensive high end fusions can be. I take it that's how you get Riot Gun as a skill card to teach other Personas? That seems to be a popular one for Arsene.
Word of warning: mute your TV when you're doing this, if you value your sanity. I swear, if I hear "What are you waiting for?" one more time...
"this pers..." "you want this perso" "such rudeness"
Just do what you're gonna do. What are you waiting for? Do it
YaminoKaze Show respect inmate!!!!
Then accept this Persona
Hmmmmmmmm. That will do
When I told my friend that I was going to do an Arsene only run, he asked me if I hated myself
naothoe slap all of the skill cards for the skill card set onto him and he becomes an amazing persona
naothoe I hope you’ll at least use other personas to level social links
I actually made the very same to Arsene but had Black Viper and Vorpal Blade til I got to Shido's palace (Str En Agi) now Im goin to do the same again on my PS3 version P5 (since I cant use my online storage or I'll get an error bout not having the DLCs 😑 I hate that bout the game..)
I did an Arsene-only run after 100%'ing my initial run, and I have to say the only bits that gave me trouble was Madarame's palace and Okumura's palace. At the time of Madarame's palace, enemies are getting tougher yet Arsene can't learn new skills at that point. The boss battle against Shadow Madarame is also a bit of a nightmare. Meanwhile, Okumura's palace had a lot of physical-resistant enemies which meant SP was guzzled a lot, but it was the same in my regular run.
For reference, I started the run on a fresh save file (for extra challenge) and went for an Almighty build with Null Bless, Null Ice, Reflect Phys, and Makougaon for coverage. Can't remember every skill I had though, haha.
naothoe your picture perfectly describes it
The "feel free to leave a dislike" really tickled me.
Sorry for that D:
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- doing stat growth in Persona
I know that feel
Sir Teddy Fortesque I was just thinking of that- never forget the hours wasted trying to get decent skills
The FlamingHero45 I love the previous games,especially 3,bot god damn after playing this and Devil Survivor, I dread the skill roulette
these privileged people who have only played persona 5 and don't understand the true horror and pain of having to x+circle for the skills you want
stuff like nocturne still gives me nightmares man
I didn't even know this game did that with Strengthening personas...
The terrible part about this: hearing Caroline and Justine repeat the same things over and over. I'm going crazy
HipsterAnimeLover2000 it's not his fault. His actions are all thise of JUSTICE
"Such rudeness"
I made yoshitsune's strength stat 99 it took me 4 hours.
@@cafeledavid Caroline, you handle this
IloveEmilia andRem My opinion is that Prioritising two stats is easier/quicker then focusing on 1 because 1 will make you lose your sanity and those moments when your so used to press X and O you accidentally cancel the 1 stat you wanted, every time that happens it completely shatters my mind
When Persona becomes into competitive pokemon xDDD
Competitive Persona would be Almighty-fest as everyone becomes immune to everything xD
SephiZack im pretty sure if pierce was in this game Yoshitsune would be banned in the competitive scene xD
Hito yoshitsune can be fucked by gun attacks
It's just existential Pokemon.
Nearest for competitive PVP will be on SMT DX2
You're the first person I've hear say at the end. "If you didn't like this, make sure to leave a dislike" haha
OMG!!! those "Arsene" status, this is totally worth doing....Thanks man.
Pumping Arsene because he didn't get enough love from Atlus :D
I'm really sad that they don't give the Protagonist's Persona more love. I mean, I know they're supposed to be the first one and therefore not very good - but it'd be awesome to see some more progression with it so it doesn't become useless after so many early levels. Like it'd be cool to see Arsene legitimately get some strong physical skills and magic skills and have balanced stats. It really sucks having to abandon the Persona that saved the lives of my friends (which led to them getting their Personas) just because they aren't going to learn skills that are strong enough to warrant their stats.
+PokemonTrainer77 It's fine, because as always, the initial Persona of the protagonist becomes his ultimate Persona in the end.
And at least this game has strengthening options. P3P had the ability to raise stats through arcade stuff, which was honestly better for stats, but being able to sacrifice Personas to strengthen one is very handy.
Still - I just want to be able to do, say a solo persona run. The entire party works together to beat the enemy with each member having a distinct advantage and disadvantage. Kinda want Persona 6's first playthrough to lock the protagonist to their primary and canon persona - and no Personas are required to do social links and get rank ups with them - and that's just the canon storyline. Then when you unlock the NG+, you get the Power of the Fool Arcana, are able to freely switch - and all enemies get a massive boost in their stats leading the game to be sensibly more difficult.
PokemonTrainer77 not having the fool Arcana prevents you from doing the journey to begin with tho. Every journey in the persona games (except the first 2 I think, I never played them) had 1 person with the fool to start the journey. If you don't have one not only do I think it's impossible to even start it but even if it was you wouldn't get far with everyone only having 1 persona. The entire party would end up dying.
Just look at the animes. Had the protagonists not had the ability to use multiple personas they'd all have died.
If you really want to use 1 persona then no ones stopping you but I highly doubt you'd last that long.
Yay! you maxxed an Arsene for me Sephi-kun, still... I wish they put a bit more thought into the main characters persona when it came to normal leveling.
Yeah I maxed him because MC Personas don't get enough love D:
I wonder.... Can Arsene en up with 89 Magic?? and Which skills is Arsene most likely to Inherit??
Diaz Chatnoir arsene mostly inherits magic skills
@@SephiZack Bro I own Arense as my main because he's badass persona 😁
Another reason to love P5's gameplay is that you can now with the electric chair + the skill cards you can get one amazing Initial Persona.
Dude you're amazing. People on persona 5 game forums don't know how this work. Didn't even know sacrificing personas that give less EXP lets you narrow the stats you want to boost significantly. You're the best
I'm actually surprised people on Persona 5 forums wouldn't know this o_O
I'm glad you addressed why personas above level 80 aren't good damage dealers. I was wondering if it was just my imagination, but it seems like stats make much more of a difference in this game than they did in the previous ones. This makes what I was seeing make a lot more sense. Great video, man.
Glad you found it helpful ;)
Doctor Thunder
It sucks if you can't do this with Messiah. I really want to make him good in this game (it was difficult to do in P3).
You could maybe NEARLY max one stat for messiah normal, lvl 81 i think, he's the onlly persona who learns almighty boost naturally so just focus on magic and network fuse for almighty amp or somefink
they should have introduced a way to decrease a persona lvl
Funny seeing “personas above level 80 aren’t good damage dealers” as a Royal player
Wow, first time I heard a TH-camr says to press dislike if they dislike the video. Usually TH-camrs would say the other way round. But I don't dislike the video. Good guide by the way.
Linus from LinusTechTips also says to press the dislike button :P and yeah good guide for sure!
I've actually heard it from someone else so I thought "hey, as someone who is watching, this is actually a good thing" so I think I will keep it from now on. Many subscribed people or fans will like a video as soon as it starts without seeing all of it. I feel like if you think the content is not up to the standard of the other ones, you should probably dislike it even if it's like your favourite youtuber (and maybe leave some feedback on why and how it could be improved)
I'm reallig liking your guides, Hope you can grow and keep doing it!
I already see the drought of games in the next few months, my channel will stop growing and everyone will leave xD
SephiZack sub because your a cool dude lol
did this for 8 hours yesterday. i felt like i was gonna DIE. went down for dinner afterwards and everywhere i looked i saw the persona stats screen, and i kept hearing voices whispering something to me... NANI O NAI ON DEIRU
Yea I feel like I was going to go insane if I keep hearing the twins so I just mute the sound
"You lack patience"
Got Kaguya from base (lvl 16) to lvl 94.. cost roughly 4.25 million yen and took about 3 - 3½ hours. Just to give you an idea of how much time and money it takes.
yikes
Hey. Can ask some questions. I still abit confuse. Basically up personal, use what to sacrifice is batter? Is that high level or just normal same level?
@@thomascash2859 when you level up a persona and focus on some stats and not the total stats you must use a fodder that is lower level. If u use a fodder that has the same level the stats will always be in total and not focused on what you want. I have has the same problem of you and i was still able to get an Alice with 80 in magic
@@swwweee thank you my fren😀 now i playing hollow knight.. hahaha
@@thomascash2859 thank you too, now im playng strasburg court CEDU
I need persona 6 in my life now
I feel the pain too ;(
Atlus just registered a bunch of trademarks including P5R and Persona 6, Persona 7, and Persona 8. Alot are saying P5R is Persona 5 Red which is like Persona 4 golden since Persona 5 uses Red as its theme and P4 used gold as its theme so P5R is probably a re-release of Persona 5 with extra content such as the Aeon Arcana from previous games. The other things are self explanatory. With the huge success of P5 its pretty obvious that Atlus will want to make more games in the franchise hence why they registered P6, P7, and P8
Really hope that an enhanced version of Persona 5 is a few years away at best. I don't like the idea of paying for an enhanced version of a game that I've already paid full price for.
persona 5 red??? c'mon yall it's persona 5 ruby.
if we are following the P4/P4G nomenclature, then Persona 5 Crimson is more like it.
WTF?! You could delete your Persona?! Damn I've beaten this game twice and I never even knew that lol thanks for the tips man gonna make my life a whole lot easier
Same, I discovered it by chance at the end of my second playthrough xD
SephiZack 103 hours and I didn't even know.
'You cannot hold any more masks' must be pretty common for you xD
Indeed up till now I've been clearing space by strengthening and itemizing lol
I didn't know that either, up till now I've just sent all the stuff I don't want or need to the gallows. (because I haven't unlocked itemizing yet)
If they don't give me more control over persona fusion in persona 5 the royal...............
I'm gonna complain online!
Now alarm fusion makes it too easy, and you can max every stat
Bought Persona 5 when i got my PS4 in january because i heard so much good stuff about it and it massively exceeded those expectations that i had. I finished the game about a week ago now i'm on NG+ and i'm gonna try to make an OP persona with this technique. I figured i was not gonna have fun playing NG+ and I wouldn't play it at all but starting NG+ and seeing what i can still do (max all confidants before ending the game, find all locations(cuz somehow i still missed some Q.Q) and all the other stuff for trophies :)) Thanks a lot for these videos of yours, this inspired me to go on after i finished the first playthrough!
It's kinda weird how Arsene is the only initial Persona that's weak to two types. Everyone else in your party is only weak to one.
Captain Kidd = Wind
Zorro = Electric
Carmen = Ice
Goemon = Fire
Johanna = Psychokinesis
Milady = Nuclear
Robin Hood = Curse
Arsene = Bless.......and also Ice.
Lmao. At least he has a darkness resistance. Now imagine a persona with 2 weaknesses, with no resistances and one of it's weakness is instant kill. You don't need to. Look at Orpheus in his OG game. Worse initial persona in the entire series
In persona 3 you have no strengths an two weaknesses: Lightning and Darkness. It was a metaphor for how shocked you will be at how hard and dark the game is.
very informative video bro, keep up the fantastic work! so glad you channel is growing so rapidly, its a great thing to see in such a short space of time. You deserve it
Hey thank you, chatting with you during the livestream was entertaining ;) I wish the best of luck to your channel too!
cheers bro. Thank to you videos im learning something new about the game every day, I didn't even know that if you exit and re-enter the gallows fusion page that the stats bonuses change. That will be so helpful in future.
Thank you! I would have never thought about the register/resummon thing.
Without that, min maxing would take months in the game D:
You got the best P5 vid guides I've seen so far. Keep it up!
Great video again man! This is really, REALLY helpful for me as I was just in the process in doing something like this, so good timing :P
Yeah I assumed now it would be a good time, as many people are reaching the point in game where you can do this
I cant find a guide like this anywhere else, thank you so much for this
Cody Trent yeah me too and some of that is suck -_-
"...if you didn't feel free to leave a dislike."
who would?
Great guide!! Its exactly what I needed!! Thank you for making this!!!
I read people's minds before deciding which video to make ;D
this is an incredibly helpful guide! thanks for the great tips
Hey glad it was helpful
ty for this :) great, short, direct explanation of how it works
That Arsene. ❤ I'm now motivated to level him up.
I wish they’d naturally made Arsene a good persona, HE LOOKS SO COOL AND I WANNA KEEP HIM
Took me about an hour, maybe longer, to level Arsene up by 32 levels while trying to min max EN, MA, and LU.
This is very informative, and explained why I couldn't get Messiah's stats to increase when I decided on him to be my Confusion Grinder. I think I'll use someone lower-levelled now.
Thanks for the info. I'm a Persona noob so this was helpful.
You can also get the Ronald Medal from the Shady Commodities to get All Stats+5. Just a reminder.
Quality content. Because min-maxing is important for some people (including me). I like how you made the point to use low level fodder, that's my problem coz I couldn't get the stats I want since I kept using the treasure demon (and thus gains too much levels).
Yeah I also that problem when starting, I had to keep summoning lower and lower level personas because every time they gave me too much exp
this is a really tedious process and you need to have a lot of patience. but if you manage that, you’d be able to enjoy sitting on top of everything in this game lol. my endgame personas are
satanael: one-shot kill and riot gun
asura: atomic flare and cosmic flare
alice: black viper and megidolaon
black frost: diamond dust and ice age
siegfried: god’s hand and gigantomachia
attis: inferno and blazing hell
vishnu: panta rhei and vacuum wave
kohryu: psycho force and psycho blast
metatron: kougaon and makougaon
beelzebub: aeigaon and maeigaon
odin: thunder reign and wild thunder
ishtar: medic
all of them have their respective boost and amp, as well as magic ability. i also covered all of their weaknesses, and they have 89 stats in ma or st,depending on their specialty. i equip that nataraja and the crystal skull for +10 on all stats so that becomes 99 lol
Another great guide, thank you so much!
Thank you for the support :)
I never realized that about the stats, no wonder my black ooze was so much better in damaging opponents, hell its luck was also incredibly high at level 40 compared to my level 70 summoned demons
would love to see a video showcasing your personas and skill sets
My personas are really just random ones I found because that's how I played the game. The only interesting ones are those I've already shown in videos
My first Persona. I try for securing the route on the first day, currently in the final vault at Kaneshiro's palace (hope I spelled it right). Level 20 on merciless. Damn that Demon Lord fight was hard. I won after like 6 tries then when on my way back to the safe house the weird camera mechanic got me. Had to do it all over again till the last chamber. Threw at least a zillion controllers in my head.
Maxing out Arsene's core stats... Only to render him unable to actually UTILIZE those stats with actual attack skills. Someone wants the Twins to royally mess him up.
thank you very much. Check your channel first thing in the morning for this vid.
Honoured to get checked first thing in the morning :D
You'er a truly humble person, I appreciate your content and when you said you going to release a video tomorrow to explain everything clear, of course I'm tuning in. Keep up the good work my friend! ; )
I used gallows to make a Persona that would be immune, repel, or absorb literally everything except fire, which it was still strong against. That was a fun process that let me completely trounce the twins fight.
Yoshitune..?
Very helpful. I've beaten the game twice now. Neither was on merciless difficulty. This will help me do just that. :)
Hey glad you found it helpful :)
You can save first before gallows and then level up saves money
Hopefully in P5R Arsene gets more love by getting more skills
If they somehow make poor Arsene more useless than before, _someone's studio will explode._
I read somewhere that the fastest enemy only has 75 agility. So you can get away with having only 75 + the 10 from equipment. Not sure if it's true, but either way, it looks cool having 99 lol.
Great guide as always
And as always, thank you for the amazing reception :)
When you wished to mid-maxed, but you end up only making the stats even through the playthrough ;-;
I should've realized using weaker Personas was better for controlling stat changes I just kept going with what was good enough
I used to use whatever gave me the highest amount of exp when I played through the game. It's only when I tried min maxing that I noticed it was better to level up slowly
Honest question, is this even necessary? i beat the secret boss without doing this with only a bit of bad luck killing me (seriously fuck the random criticals) but other than that i dont think there is a real reason to do this?
Elude irkz Higher Difficulity and for fun some people like me i like to optimise my personas in the best way i can.
I do this with all my rpgs
Yeah no actual need to do this. This is mostly for completionists or people who enjoy min maxing. I played through the whole game twice and platinum'd the game without doing this, but after that I just felt like experimenting with random stuff (like the passives-only Arsene I made in this video)
Elude irkz no really its not necessary to do and it's just simply a means of minmaxing/ getting the perfect persona for personal gain. i have beaten the twins with a goonsquad of captured personas, with a few that i actually properly fused and inherited. so while its not needed to have something like that on video, it makes it easier.
This is just how it is with RPG players there's an instinct to want to be more power or rich even when it's unnecessary, working to get real powerful has a satisfying feeling to it.... although it's also the same reason why we buy 99 potions in JRPGs or loot everything and preserve it all WRPGs and never use them.
If there was a way of online vs
Yes but since this is single player only no but fun for some people
Its like pokemon iv hard time comsuming but you rekt shit in mp
Congratz on the subs! You deserve it! just a couple days ago you were talking about wanting to reach 500, now look at ya mr big shot! haha
I'm still a small fish though ;D
Its a shame all those cool looking end game personas will never be as powerful as the ones you level using this method though. I guess you could just transfer over any skills you wanted from those.
I guess they did it this way to balance the game a bit, but I wish there was a "delevel" option in game
If only EV training Pokémon made this much sense. 😂
Happy holidays bro 4/20 ⛽️🔥
I'll probably just keep Arsene forever on my next playthrough and feed him once a day so it's not annoying
Guide for finding all the treasure personas?
Awesome vids though, keep it up!
Hey I will definitely do that, it might not be today though
Wow, thanks for the video and information. VERY helpful ^_^ this is my first Persona game so I was very confused. Thank you :]
Is it not possible to min/max by using Treasure Demons? I understand that they grant more exp, but if the Persona is increasing in stats in the areas you desire, why wouldn't you use Treasure Demons to speed up the process?
I.e. Treasure Demon grants 3 levels and increases STR, END, and AGI upon level up, and I continue to exit/re-enter until those stats are selected every time?
i'm asking the same thing :/
Nice video, I've been loving your Persona 5 content since I stumbled upon it, really useful information. I know you did a video on the Personas with the strongest skills in the game already, but would you consider doing one about how to which Personas give out the more powerful/useful Skill Cards through itemization? Either way, keep up the good work!
Hey I actually didn't think about doing that. I think I will do it unless I forget
This is freaking awesome because this means that Arsene can be actually usefull and badass in NG+ and you can use him as your main persona (mostly, obviously not entirely lol) like your other teammates do with theirs. Great video, I will certainly take my time to do this.
WHAT THE HELL, I NEVER SEEN THOSE PERSONAS BEFORE!!
Tip: If it only levels up to 1, try to go for only a single stat increase. It will give it 3 points instead of 1. For example, if only MA will increase, it will give it 3 points if your persona only levels up by one. That’s how I made my Arsene op in this game
Thanks for the guides!
You're welcome :D
helpful video for a new player. Thanks
Tfw you spend 5 hours summoning crystal skull and arsene over and over
This guy's a legend
Can't you just grind alarm in mementos and get every Stat 99 with the malfunction strenghen persona since it doesn't give any xp?
Had a randomized stats kaguya at the end of the game, then went to watch this video and realized I eff up. Welp, time to new game+ and try again.
So refreshing having a CC day if you didn’t like his work, leave a dislike.
And very straightforward with the info, I had no idea of this method (critical thinking might not be my strongest point lmao)
Why is Persona 3 the only Persona game where you can actually get items to improve Persona stats.
Because you dont need items for it duh.
No matter how hard I try, I can't get to 99 in any stat for Alice or Satanael (i think those are the names) with alice, the highest state I could get to was 80, and Satanael ended stuck with around 60.
YES! YES YES!!! Thank you so much!
hanging doesnt guarantee a transfer. it has to be able to learn/accept that ability first
Yeah I mentioned that at the end, it's just that I am not sure about which personas can't learn what
SephiZack
one easy way is as you said, physical vs mage, then theres elements. fire likely cant learn ice, etc etc...
Oh thank you for confirming my guess ;)
SephiZack
its not always obvious though
This video helped alot :) thx man.
Persona would be an incredible multi-player game. Persona battles?! Hell yeah!
But everyone immune to everything apart from Almighty D:
How do i not min-max ive been making arsenne and he just got a bunch of strength instead of magika now im on 46 st and 12 mag
Wait, so there are no cards to upgrate individual status? There are no more personas with all 99? u.u
Can you make a video for moves that are unique to a specific persona (list all of them)(that only one persona can learn)
It's gonna take some time, but I'm gonna use arsene for my almighty build now, instead of satan
Before I clicked on the video and I saw the thumbnail, I thought to myself: "Eh, this looks like clickbait". Fortunately I was wrong. ^_^
Thanks for uploading this.
Hey glad I didn't disappoint ;)
How to unlock all of those options? Mine just has the execution and summon options
It only took 3 million yen but we did it.
Is there no facilities to increase persona stats? Like if we refer back to persona 3, if we play on arcade our persona can get increase stat by 1 each time playing, so its taking long time but honest work into making a persona has 99 stat on every stat be it strength, magic, endurance, agility and luck
Hello thank you for the video i went and bought the persona 5 dlc for persona.
Nice purchase ;)
wow i wonder how i managed to min max 20 personas and still have 8 million lol. but then again i am on my 3rd playthrough
Is it possible to start these projects earlier in the game? Seems really out of the way if you're already at endgame when you do this, and having them early makes their EXP-Gains come at a more natural pace. It might also be cheaper. (might)
How long did you take to min max one P? Getting 99 luck on my Shiki-Ouji is already a pain in the ass.
This is the reason why I miss shuffle time from Persona 4 Golden...
So much easier to increase stats.
I wish they had Incense Cards in P5
Yeah but...
How much dialogue do you have to click through?
What are you waiting for?
@@david52875 hm... that will do
@@LORDdrPepper such rudeness
I see...A strong persona indeed
This persona? You'll withdraw this persona? Such rudeness.
It was way easier to Max your stats out in P3 with consumable items for Personas
What is the reason behind not increasing magic? Is that just for Arsene or is there another reason?
Hey quick question, so can you do this with any Persona? if you can when you start New Game+ will you be able to buy them from the compendium as early as you can? (Kamoshida Palace)
Quick question. Would you say Sandalphon is a good Persona for the secret boss? I just did the Reaper Despair exploit and I fused a Sandalphon who is level 88 while I'm at 80. He has Auto-Matarukaja, Megidolaon, Angelic Grace, Repel Curse, that grave-phys attack, Marakunda, Matarunda, and High Counter. He also has 60 Magic. I have an Alice for Concentrate although she has 63 Magic.
I think all personas are generally good, it's only when min maxing that you can notice slight differences between them
Is it possible to reduce a persona to below their base level in order to give yourself more room to min-max? Or no?
this is awesome! i always wanted to figure a way to make arsene useful still.
i have the strengt in rank 7 and the fool rank 6 but i havent unlock the strength option yet (persona 5 the royal version)