yes fr, like princess can mean pampered. not as bad as brat but still it depends on the tone you’re using and all that. just like any other term, it can easily become an insuly
No Tam & Adam Polly call Ariah that & Ariah's caught up & invested in all of those movies like she said. That's just not a conversation Tam wants to have right now I guess. All's I'm saying is be real about it. That's the show's name for God's sake!!!
The term "princess" can be a term of endearment (in relation to a disney princess) BUT can be also use condescendingly (spoiled/entitled). I have no clue as to how none of the girls were understanding what Jeannie was trying to say.
Nicole Estella TV Jeannie gave the most international and diverse perspective. Lol they literally were talking about Disney Australia and then everyone except Jeannie gave the typical American perspective about our princesses.
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 well for people that are not American that doesn't make sense... Lol 🙈. Like I don't see how princess is in any way derogatory n why it should be a topic. In the same way saying u r beautiful is positive another person can say it in a sarcastic way to mean u think u r all that. But does it mean it's worth discussing if they should change the meaning? I still don't think all that was necessary
Nicole Estella TV I’m just saying it’s other views then just Americans. And this is an American talk show discussing the Australian view on a word. So yeah Jeannie was the only one giving a different cultural point of view.
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 am American talk show discussing the Australian view of the word where 3 Americans disagreed n one Asian American agreed. I get it...
Just noticing, though most in the The Real video's comments are females, every time I find a comment on The Real videos that make me laugh, it's from a guy. Intriguing.
Can this ladies actually HEAR Jeannie?! She actually understands.... i was always called little princess because i was privileged because it seemed like my dad gave me everything but i was always accountable for my actions, worked hard on my things but people thought i was given everything and didn’t really worked.
That's exactly what I thought. I figured that the word is probably used differently in Australia where they're running the campaign.... And the ladies at the table are having a hard time discussing it because that's not how the word is often used over here in America😂 It made for an awkward discussion because they didn't have the full story
Yeah but come on!!! Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!! This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!! Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!! I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!! Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
Everything today is an issue for everyone! Princess is an endearment and there’s nothing offensive with it, stop looking for problems where there aren’t any.
Yeh that made me a little upset. Jeannie was trying to make an example form Cinderella being a servant and Tamera said “Moana wasn’t a servant” and Jeanie never got to finish
@@britbritnicole9211 no...jeannie is right. Sometimes people do be like "okay princess" to girls if they ask for something that the other person thinks is high end or too extreme or too demanding for their liking. It does exist. But they didn't wanna acknowledge it like Jeannie was saying
About the princess thing, I wanted them to really get into Jeanie’s perspective. And I get it. Princesses exist beyond Disney and have before the popularity of Disney princesses. “Bratty” connotations of royalty such as remarks like “yes your highness🙄” when a woman is being “demanding”, DO exist. When “princess” is said, it depends on the context and tone in which it’s said that makes it sexist or not. I think that’s where Jeanie was getting at. However, Disney changed the way princesses were looked at and put them into a positive light which is GREAT. Now when we think of princesses we think of those influential women. I think the parents who are complaining should just adopt Disney’s interpretation of a princess.
Yeah but it shouldn't!!! I hate now how the meaning of it is being taken over by a very negative connotation and I can't stand those righteous pompous feminists who want to distroy and actual beautiful positive word really!! I'm just so sick and tired of it!!!
Lol my birth name is Princess so I find this discussion weird... things are really not that deep. Let me just drop a lil light for some of you in the comments who want to make jokes... My heritage is Nigerian and in Nigerian context ‘Princess’ is associated with royalty, respect, power, strength, beauty and is one of the highest honour you could give to someone. I also live in England and I’ve only ever heard polite comments about my name. I come from very humble beginnings and it’s reminded me during difficult times that I Am Strength + all the other beautiful things my name carries. I guess Some Americans just think differently 🤷🏾♀️
Any word can have a negative connotation people...somebody using the word “sweetie” can say it in a shady way or truly from a good place ...imma need y’all to act like y’all know lol
Exactly. We will have to throw the entire dictionary away at this rate. If we use the word correctly, there is no discussion. We are starting to sound so uneducated.
Temara and Adrienne try to make everything about them and their lives, in a talk show u need to understand other perceptions and ideas, so self centered, let Jeannie and Loni talk more
Cutting Jeannie off as usual. It is used in two ways. A positive way when it's a younger girl and used to call her adorable, cute, pretty, whatever. And a negative way with an adult woman when she's entitled, bratty, rude, high maintenance, spoiled, snobby or when a woman brings up legitimate issues and others dismiss them with "ok princess".
Yeah but come on!!! Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!! This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!! Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!! I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!! Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
I hate how nowadays society craps on anything feminine. Nothing wrong with princess. I understand it's important to teach children (especially little girls) about being independent and that they can do things for themselves. But, what's wrong with promoting balance? It's okay to be feminine, caring, gentle, etc. There isn't ONLY value in being masculine, strong, leading, etc. Then Disney princesses are strong in a unconventional way....there is strength in their feminine energy. Feminism is about equality, saying being masculine and feminine are both important and equal. Not that everyone should be masculine and femininity is weak. I hate that narrative.
Seriously everyone wants to be exactly the same nothing wrong with be feminine or masculine if you wanna be a girl and be feminine that’s fine and if you wanna be a man and be masculine then fine everything don’t gotta be all the same
Thank youuuu Mimi!! I sooo agree!! It shouldn't!!! It shouldn't be such a negative toxic word!! And adults should be able to be called that without it being toxic or patronising!! What is wrong with being feminine!? I so agree with you about the Ballance!!! I hate now how the meaning of it is being taken over by a very negative connotation and I can't stand those righteous pompous feminists who want to distroy and actual beautiful positive word really!! I'm just so sick and tired of it!!! If my man calls me his princess I melt!! I feel so good in it!! And it makes me feel even more feminine and lived!! Honestly I'm exhausted that people are trying to trumple this word into such a negative shi*ty connotation!!
Vando Varela ikr like damnnn. I would have to go to uni, get a whole a$$ degree just to get less then a fraction of what these people sit around making. Ahhhh, the fun.
Jeannie gets it, it deffo has negative connotations. I think Disney mean they want to reclaim the term from how at times it is used in a sarcastic way. When someone acts entitled you might say they are acting like a princess to suggest they are being spoilt similar to the phrase 'she thinks she is royalty' . Ofcourse mothers talking to their daughters will use it positively but thats a given.
But I think the deeper question that Tamera was trying to get at is....where did that connotation come from? In all the Disney princess movies, the princess weren't entitled or spoilt. They all had great personalities. Disney has done a fair job in portraying princesses in a positive light. I remember Disney princesses being the most sweetest and caring characters. Maybe I'm missing something.
Michelle A. They literally never seen these Disney movies. The main princess in the princess and the frog was a mean spoiled princess. And the stepsisters in Cinderella were not nice but we princess like rather than Cinderella.
@@mimia.4810 im sure the word had connotations prior to disney and its probably disney fairytales where the idea that everygirl could be a little princess stems from in part but thats not universal or old perhaps where as the spoilt precious,entitled little princess trope is
Yeah but come on!!! Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!! This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!! Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!! I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!! Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
JEANNIE IS BEYOND THIS SHOW ;princess in many of the fairytales we watched growing up meant someone who was waiting to saved by prince charming;DAMSEL IN DISTRESS waiting to be saved,who are victims to evil step sisters and witches and are saved by a prince.Disney only modified the narrative because of the feminist movement .There is no way a kid understands that it not reality especially if we dress them up and call them princess.I grew up believing fairytales and silly soaps that are fashioned the same way.Its an unrealistic protrayal of women.
I disagree, I think Disney princesses taught valuable traits. It depends how you look at it. Most, if not all, of the princesses were kind, gentle, loving, and caring. They remained the same despite all of the negatives of society (represented by witches and evil step sisters lol). I think there is something to be said about people,in real life, with those traits. Disney princesses taught a different kind of strength and power....femininity! Too many times, society shames feminine energy and only acknowledges the strength in masculinity. But there is strength in femininity and Disney princesses had that strength. I think that's what Tamera was trying to get at (which is a fair point) I don't think Jeannie is "beyond" this show.
i feel like Disney princess have come a long especially when you look at the older princess vs the recent princesses but even the older ones have positive things about them
Ladies you all have a point. I rediscovered my kindness and gentleness because it seemed like a weakness for long time, some people look and talk about you like you're an alien but then others are comfoted by it so, so for me it took time to embrace it again and keep it despite cruelty of others. Also, this prince thing coming and saving me, I was completely unaware but yeah subconciously I did expect it despite my mom warrning me when I was a girl that it's not rational. I just tought she was anoying and a pessimist 😂
Loni really??!? She's the most sarcastic and slightly bitter of them all! Naaahh hahaha I find Tamera so beautiful in her personality!! Much more positive and beautiful!
SERIOUSLY, ALL YOU CAN SAY ABOUT TIANA IS SHE'S ADVENTUROUS??? UGH, all the white ones they have great details and she's just adventurous? Anyone can be that.
They could of said "Tiana was a hard working young women who work really hard and saved her money because she wanted to accomplished her dream and her family's and become a business owner ..she never was discouraged by anyone...like Tiana was a really strong women ..one of the best princess out there !
@@averyjohnson7600 If you're still in college or university it's ok. When you're done and you have to strike out and make your life then its gonna be on you and no one else. I think he's just a good dad and you should appreciate everything you have and how your family got it for you.
Hmm. I haven't heard that term used in a long while. I guess it depends on the context. Nothing is wrong with the word though. As long as it is used respectfully.
I understand why some people find “Princess” sexist. At one of my jobs, my coworker got promoted to manager and whenever she would tell the employees what to do they’d groan and say “yes princess” or “here comes the princess again” which made her seem like she was bossy or too controlling just for doing her job! Yes Disney has done a great job showing princesses in a positive life but in REAL LIFE, aside from children when has being called a princess been a good thing? I think I agree that we need to change the definition of what a princess it. It’s happening slowly though
Natasha Exactly it has definitely been used in a condescending way in the real world especially in the workplace. It was really annoying that they were dismissing Jeannie’s point.
I’ve never associated Princess with spoiled. I’ve always seen it as a compliment. I think of Disney princesses and there’s good qualities associated with them 🤷🏾♀️
The word "princess" it can go many directions and it just depends on how people say it or representing it as. When I think of the word princess as a child it's like oh I'm special in a good way. As a adult I think of it in Disney princess way which is confident, kind, hardworking, adventurous and independent. Like there's a quote from a Barbie movie called Princess Charm School and the character Blaire/Princess Sophia say "There's a princess in every girl " I love that quote so much. So don't think of the word princess in a bad way because it can be in a good way too.
God thank u someone who finally gets it. The whole conversation was just pointless.😴 Since when did the word princess become sexist. Some father and mothers call there baby girl princess. 😒
I’m a guy and one of my guy friends used to call me “princess” as both a derogatory term and a term of endearment. I’m gay. And also at the time I was so nice/noble to EVERYONE that I was sometimes naive as to people’s ill intentions. I took forever to get ready because I always HAD to look good. And i wasn’t hyper masculine like all all the other (straight) dudes in our friend group. So he called me a princess to make fun off all of those afore mentioned traits and to call me high maintenance. But it was also his term of endearment for me because he was my closest friend in that friend group and he’d literally be my knight in shining armor when I needed help with anything or if someone tried to start something with me (even tho I could easily defend myself. I’m not scared to throw hands). But yeah, that is a perfect example of both the positive and negative connotations that could be inferred when calling someone a princess. I’m really confused as to how none of the other girls picked up on Jeanie’s point. She was spot on.
i didn't know there was a definition like that for the word princess lol i get what Jeannie saying i get what everyone saying but i feel like it's not really a negative thing unless you use it that way
Some do mean it positively, with no ill intention. Being fair, some people DO see it as Jeannie described! Otherwise why would it need to be changed? She's right! Me personally, I just feel like whether they change it or not we need to stop encouraging our children to define and redefine themselves based on fiction and/or the opinion of others. Teach them to see themselves for who they are and receive it based on their true attributes and aspirations. If it don't fit just don't receive it. I'm telling you man we are what we eat!
There were many years I did not have the opportunity to Ride Adult Rides, because of kids, but now my grown Granddaughter say I am a Bomb Grandma on the Roller Coaster! My Grandaughter said Granny I am so proud of you!😂😂
why Tamara keep having Lonnie and her negative energy around her family? especially since she stated she doesn't believe in the "girl code" on the Khloe video. she need to keep that chick at a distance!!!!
"You know that's a life lesson. We all gonna be on rides. You ain't going to INCONVENIENCE all of us because you are a BABY!" HAHA savage. Imagine staring at a wide eyed cute baby and saying "Na-uh. U aint inconvenience us, baby! Not this time..." 🤣
So Jeannie needs to be the other mom on this show. Tamera is too conservative and outdated sometimes. I love hearing a different perspective. But it seems to only be respected on topics like this once you are a mother. So please push this Lor blasian out already mai goodness.
Cinderella was always a Princess, not only through marriage. Her birth mother (the queen) died of illness and so the father married the step mother who forced her down from her princess status to a maid because of jealousy. She simply got her status back at the end of the movie and she showed what a true “princess” encompassed. Getchyo facts straighhhht ;)
*all I know is.... my boyfriends grandpa who’s in his 70’s... uses the term “princess” in the most negative light.... my boyfriends brother broke up with his girlfriend recently because she was too “needy” he said... when we were discussing it with his grandpa he goes “yeah apparently she was a princess”. So yes.... TO ME “princess” is just a cute NAME.. that’s all it should carry.. is a NAME, it’s a TITLE... it’s not too deep to most. But there are some people who use it in a certain way and I think that’s what the question being asked is referring to!* *EDIT: I love Tamera. I love them all. Just my two cents.. for some reason I felt she was almost offended someone could look at the word “princess” in a negative way... and nobody is disagreeing with her at the table. Jeannie wasn’t saying that saying “princess” SHOULD be used in a negative way... she’s just bringing up the fact that some people DOOOO use that term in a negative way.* *its not the way you use it in a sentence.. just your meaning behind it. Just like my example above with my boyfriends grandpa...* *and the question was “is princess SEXIST?” Not... “if calling children princess’ is bad” like I think Tamera was getting offended by* *disclaimer... I freaking love the real and all four of the hosts. This is JUST SIMPLY my observations about this ONE clip and the topic at hand... much love* ♡ *last edit after finishing the clip.... they looked too deep into this.... I felt everyone was mad at jeannie for some reason LOL..... jeannie wasn’t saying being a princess is bad (I mean towards the end she did say u should feel good about yourself without being called a princess, yes) but all jeannie was answering... WAS THE QUESTION.. the question simply was “is it sexist?” Jeannie was just saying “yes... it CAN be.. because some people do look at it that way.. in a negative light”. That was ALL....* *i will even stick up for Tamera because I just don’t think she was able to explain her feelings correctly... I don’t think when Tamera calls her daughter a princess that it means she’s more powerful or more better than anyone..... I think Tamera just means it in a endearing (and most importantly) very SIMPLE way... it’s **JUST.A.CUTE.NAME* *all I know is? Yes..... the term “princess” can come across as sexist. As I believe my boyfriends grandpa is sexist LOL. Does it mean it’s sexist for everyone? No. Some people use the term in a good way. That’s all!! Lol!!*
Did not know Princess was negative. Wow!! Well I live in the UK where we have Princesses Also I am British and African- and although I do not address myself as "Princess" - the maternal side of my African family is royalty Shocking that a beautiful word has a negative connotation. What is wrong with people? Why do people have to spoil everything???!!!
I think it depends on how you say it, I call my daughters princesses endearingly but I have heard it said negatively also in reference to someone being a spoiled brat. Tam is kinda annoying me here.
That’s funny...so it entirely depends on cultural context. Ppl in the US, associate the word ‘princess’ with a Disney Princess. In Europe, we associate the word princess with the Royal family who don’t necessarily have the best image in that context.
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Jeannie is actually right here & nobody was even tryna hear it. There is a derogatory version of the word princess.
yes fr, like princess can mean pampered. not as bad as brat but still it depends on the tone you’re using and all that. just like any other term, it can easily become an insuly
@@lybug yeah exactly
There sure is, how couldn't they know that
No Tam & Adam Polly call Ariah that & Ariah's caught up & invested in all of those movies like she said. That's just not a conversation Tam wants to have right now I guess. All's I'm saying is be real about it. That's the show's name for God's sake!!!
DRUGSTOREMAKEUPDIVA they haven’t been real in years.
There's a difference between "you're my princess" probably said by a parent vs "okay princess" said by someone in a sarcastic way
It depends on how it is said. And who it is said to.
Perfectly said! 😉
Exactly
True the few times I can recall being called princess it was used against me in an insulting negative way.
For sure
Kimberly Damien Mitchell *exactly; perception is key.*
Real queens fix each other’s crowns
Nice quote, very rare though.
I like that and it's so true😊
Nice quote, but not here in the UK... Its a vile, cut-throat parade, and if you happen to be none-Brit, you are dead in the water mate!
The term "princess" can be a term of endearment (in relation to a disney princess) BUT can be also use condescendingly (spoiled/entitled). I have no clue as to how none of the girls were understanding what Jeannie was trying to say.
Bse u live in America..... But else where in the world its just like king or queen or prince or anything. Royalty is royalty... Period.
Nicole Estella TV Jeannie gave the most international and diverse perspective. Lol they literally were talking about Disney Australia and then everyone except Jeannie gave the typical American perspective about our princesses.
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 well for people that are not American that doesn't make sense... Lol 🙈. Like I don't see how princess is in any way derogatory n why it should be a topic. In the same way saying u r beautiful is positive another person can say it in a sarcastic way to mean u think u r all that. But does it mean it's worth discussing if they should change the meaning? I still don't think all that was necessary
Nicole Estella TV I’m just saying it’s other views then just Americans. And this is an American talk show discussing the Australian view on a word. So yeah Jeannie was the only one giving a different cultural point of view.
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 am American talk show discussing the Australian view of the word where 3 Americans disagreed n one Asian American agreed. I get it...
I know damn well Adrienne is wrong for defending cinderella when she performed a whole song on why she didnt want to be her🤣
I was waiting for this comment 😂
Just noticing, though most in the The Real video's comments are females, every time I find a comment on The Real videos that make me laugh, it's from a guy. Intriguing.
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Technically it wasn't her song. It was originally performed by "Play".
Stopp. Don't play my girl like that. 🤣🤣🤣🙈
They are literally shutting Jeannie out when she’s right 🤦🏾♀️
Yeah, I was like what's this vibe the girls are hittin' Jeanie with?
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She's not right though
It is Loni is doing it
Yooop it was annoying to watch 🤦🏽♀️
I’m really frustrated for Jeannie. Tam just doesn’t get it😂
It’s like.. it doesn’t matter if that’s how you view it, it’s still how it’s used in the world and that’s what the discussion is about 👹😪
I don’t even think Tamera was listening😂 she had her answers before Jeannie spoke
Can this ladies actually HEAR Jeannie?! She actually understands.... i was always called little princess because i was privileged because it seemed like my dad gave me everything but i was always accountable for my actions, worked hard on my things but people thought i was given everything and didn’t really worked.
People are also envious of people for simply being loved. It sad acctually.
It is also used as a term of endearment though. I wouldnt say that it's sexist overall
In Australia, princess is colloquially used to describe someone who is entitled and has a bad attitude, kinda like diva
Male workers will say, “cmon princess get off your ass” to other male workers who aren’t pulling their weight or being lazy, for example
@@weidogg yes, that is true in some incidents but the word had a good and bad connotation, not all Australians use the word that way.
That's exactly what I thought. I figured that the word is probably used differently in Australia where they're running the campaign.... And the ladies at the table are having a hard time discussing it because that's not how the word is often used over here in America😂 It made for an awkward discussion because they didn't have the full story
Yeah but come on!!!
Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!!
This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!!
Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!!
I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!!
Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
Jeannie is mad patient. I would have snapped, being interrupted like that all the time.
Exactly 💯
I hate that Tamera is cutting off Jeannie because she’s actually 100% right
Everything today is an issue for everyone! Princess is an endearment and there’s nothing offensive with it, stop looking for problems where there aren’t any.
@@jennichibas9625 girl bye
Jenni chibas the real has become annoying because of their lil fans that take things to personally. Lil fucking princesses 🙄🤦♀️
Yeh that made me a little upset. Jeannie was trying to make an example form Cinderella being a servant and Tamera said “Moana wasn’t a servant” and Jeanie never got to finish
I was happy when Tamera was cutting her off... 😂😂😂
Wow i feel sorry for Jeannie here lol like the girls were being so ignorant lol
A il Jeannie was the one sounding ignorant lol
@@britbritnicole9211 no...jeannie is right. Sometimes people do be like "okay princess" to girls if they ask for something that the other person thinks is high end or too extreme or too demanding for their liking. It does exist. But they didn't wanna acknowledge it like Jeannie was saying
A il Jeanie is a grown woman why are the TH-cam. comments always comforting this woman like she a damn baby 😩🙄
It's really not that deep. And we know Jeanie loves making every situation deep so I'm glad every point she made was shut down.
@@dmwilaa Crawl back to Lipstick Alley, Muppet stan.
Jeannie stay getting cut off🙄
Cuz she stays tryna be fake deep.
Domitila Mukuba no cause people like you want to be fake dumb 🙄
@@gracedwithbeauty5233 Lmao!
Graced with Beauty 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Princess is a term that folks use to be sarcastic to rich or pretty chicks. Like "okay, princess 🙄"
Ms. Wilson it’s also a term that parents use to call there dauhter or guys call their girlfriend
@@rebeccat7005 ew why would a guy call his chick a princess?
Ms. Wilson ummmmmm lots of people do it’s like they saying your a princess to me it means he thinks she is pretty and special
Ms. Wilson you gotta be 12
@@ashantiwrlds6119 I'm not but thanks
I’m so tired of this generation.
Yeni Taylor bruh foreal
I have been here for almost two decades and I'm tired too.
Which generation? Cause 3 of the 4 ladies on the panel are generation x. Adrienne is the only millennial on the panel.
Same sensitive about calling a little girl princess really... it makes me sad.
Chantelle Holt the generation we live in now
I don’t think I could stand watching this show if it wasn’t for Jeannie lol
About the princess thing, I wanted them to really get into Jeanie’s perspective. And I get it. Princesses exist beyond Disney and have before the popularity of Disney princesses. “Bratty” connotations of royalty such as remarks like “yes your highness🙄” when a woman is being “demanding”, DO exist. When “princess” is said, it depends on the context and tone in which it’s said that makes it sexist or not. I think that’s where Jeanie was getting at. However, Disney changed the way princesses were looked at and put them into a positive light which is GREAT. Now when we think of princesses we think of those influential women. I think the parents who are complaining should just adopt Disney’s interpretation of a princess.
Yes philosopher..., 😂😂😂😂 we hear u but I don't agree with u.....
This!! Lol like I was getting frustrated because Jeannie was being so clear with her explanation
@Nicole Estella TV How would you explain the princess thing?
The term "princess" can be condescending. It can mean spoiled little brat.
Yeah but it shouldn't!!!
I hate now how the meaning of it is being taken over by a very negative connotation and I can't stand those righteous pompous feminists who want to distroy and actual beautiful positive word really!!
I'm just so sick and tired of it!!!
Lol my birth name is Princess so I find this discussion weird... things are really not that deep.
Let me just drop a lil light for some of you in the comments who want to make jokes... My heritage is Nigerian and in Nigerian context ‘Princess’ is associated with royalty, respect, power, strength, beauty and is one of the highest honour you could give to someone. I also live in England and I’ve only ever heard polite comments about my name. I come from very humble beginnings and it’s reminded me during difficult times that I Am Strength + all the other beautiful things my name carries. I guess Some Americans just think differently 🤷🏾♀️
iampaxo exactly everybody wanna reach for something that isn’t even there
IKR!
Ok princess
Exactly
iampaxo right !! so is mine !
Tamera is exuding some real tense bitter energy today. That's unlike her
I think it is very much real her
Any word can have a negative connotation people...somebody using the word “sweetie” can say it in a shady way or truly from a good place ...imma need y’all to act like y’all know lol
Exactly. We will have to throw the entire dictionary away at this rate. If we use the word correctly, there is no discussion. We are starting to sound so uneducated.
Ny Shawn RIGHHHHTTTTT! Lmao this was ridiculous! I always thought as “princess” as someone who can is spoiled.
I'm with Jeannie
I recall someone on this panel sung a song saying they didn’t wanna be like Cinderella😂👀
Edy Lorraine lol so true😂
Is the word Queen sexist? Dumb question.
I'm princess Tausha and I love it........
Temara and Adrienne try to make everything about them and their lives, in a talk show u need to understand other perceptions and ideas, so self centered, let Jeannie and Loni talk more
Why are they acting ignorant! Jeannie is right it can be used in a derogatory way
Cutting Jeannie off as usual. It is used in two ways. A positive way when it's a younger girl and used to call her adorable, cute, pretty, whatever. And a negative way with an adult woman when she's entitled, bratty, rude, high maintenance, spoiled, snobby or when a woman brings up legitimate issues and others dismiss them with "ok princess".
Yeah but come on!!!
Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!!
This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!!
Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!!
I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!!
Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
I hate how nowadays society craps on anything feminine. Nothing wrong with princess.
I understand it's important to teach children (especially little girls) about being independent and that they can do things for themselves. But, what's wrong with promoting balance? It's okay to be feminine, caring, gentle, etc. There isn't ONLY value in being masculine, strong, leading, etc.
Then Disney princesses are strong in a unconventional way....there is strength in their feminine energy.
Feminism is about equality, saying being masculine and feminine are both important and equal. Not that everyone should be masculine and femininity is weak. I hate that narrative.
Seriously everyone wants to be exactly the same nothing wrong with be feminine or masculine if you wanna be a girl and be feminine that’s fine and if you wanna be a man and be masculine then fine everything don’t gotta be all the same
Good on that point!
so agree!!!
That’s not even what they’re talking about tho
Thank youuuu Mimi!!
I sooo agree!!
It shouldn't!!! It shouldn't be such a negative toxic word!! And adults should be able to be called that without it being toxic or patronising!!
What is wrong with being feminine!? I so agree with you about the Ballance!!!
I hate now how the meaning of it is being taken over by a very negative connotation and I can't stand those righteous pompous feminists who want to distroy and actual beautiful positive word really!!
I'm just so sick and tired of it!!!
If my man calls me his princess I melt!! I feel so good in it!! And it makes me feel even more feminine and lived!!
Honestly I'm exhausted that people are trying to trumple this word into such a negative shi*ty connotation!!
I totally get it its like when someone says "you're such a diva"
I was thinking this but not princess
Omg . Imagine getting paid to talk about this topic
😂😂😂 I do that for free with my friends, I wish someone paid me
Vando Varela ikr like damnnn. I would have to go to uni, get a whole a$$ degree just to get less then a fraction of what these people sit around making. Ahhhh, the fun.
Can yall shut up and listen to JEANNIE 😒
Oh my God!!!!!!!!! Loni saying "Prince and the Frog Face Bitch" had my soul resurrecting! I'm DEADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!
Jeannie gets it, it deffo has negative connotations. I think Disney mean they want to reclaim the term from how at times it is used in a sarcastic way. When someone acts entitled you might say they are acting like a princess to suggest they are being spoilt similar to the phrase 'she thinks she is royalty' . Ofcourse mothers talking to their daughters will use it positively but thats a given.
But I think the deeper question that Tamera was trying to get at is....where did that connotation come from? In all the Disney princess movies, the princess weren't entitled or spoilt. They all had great personalities.
Disney has done a fair job in portraying princesses in a positive light. I remember Disney princesses being the most sweetest and caring characters. Maybe I'm missing something.
Michelle A. They literally never seen these Disney movies. The main princess in the princess and the frog was a mean spoiled princess. And the stepsisters in Cinderella were not nice but we princess like rather than Cinderella.
@@mimia.4810 im sure the word had connotations prior to disney and its probably disney fairytales where the idea that everygirl could be a little princess stems from in part but thats not universal or old perhaps where as the spoilt precious,entitled little princess trope is
Life’s Tough she was still materialistic. She just didn’t have the heart or mind of Tiana
Yeah but come on!!!
Why are we giving AIR to such a negative term!!
This is what I don't like and don't want to hear from Jeenie!! I appreciated that the girls weren't giving it so much space because there's nothing wrong with being called a princess, as a girl or as an adult!! It should never be considered a negative term!!
Princess is such a term of endearment and cherishing!! That's it!!
I'm not going to accept or let other meanings of it taint the word!! Plain and simple!!
Anyone who thinks otherwise about the word princess is just a bitter old a$$!!! And got issues!!
JEANNIE IS BEYOND THIS SHOW ;princess in many of the fairytales we watched growing up meant someone who was waiting to saved by prince charming;DAMSEL IN DISTRESS waiting to be saved,who are victims to evil step sisters and witches and are saved by a prince.Disney only modified the narrative because of the feminist movement .There is no way a kid understands that it not reality especially if we dress them up and call them princess.I grew up believing fairytales and silly soaps that are fashioned the same way.Its an unrealistic protrayal of women.
I disagree, I think Disney princesses taught valuable traits. It depends how you look at it.
Most, if not all, of the princesses were kind, gentle, loving, and caring. They remained the same despite all of the negatives of society (represented by witches and evil step sisters lol).
I think there is something to be said about people,in real life, with those traits. Disney princesses taught a different kind of strength and power....femininity! Too many times, society shames feminine energy and only acknowledges the strength in masculinity. But there is strength in femininity and Disney princesses had that strength.
I think that's what Tamera was trying to get at (which is a fair point) I don't think Jeannie is "beyond" this show.
i feel like Disney princess have come a long especially when you look at the older princess vs the recent princesses but even the older ones have positive things about them
Ladies you all have a point. I rediscovered my kindness and gentleness because it seemed like a weakness for long time, some people look and talk about you like you're an alien but then others are comfoted by it so, so for me it took time to embrace it again and keep it despite cruelty of others. Also, this prince thing coming and saving me, I was completely unaware but yeah subconciously I did expect it despite my mom warrning me when I was a girl that it's not rational. I just tought she was anoying and a pessimist 😂
I think what Jeannie was getting at was princess being used towards grown women. That’s another discussion within itself.
I loooove Loni, she is so motherly and her heart is sooo big! Makes me emotional, people like this are rare and a true blessing.
Loni really??!?
She's the most sarcastic and slightly bitter of them all! Naaahh hahaha
I find Tamera so beautiful in her personality!! Much more positive and beautiful!
Loni has me weak with the finger in the milk story 🤣🤣🤣
SERIOUSLY, ALL YOU CAN SAY ABOUT TIANA IS SHE'S ADVENTUROUS??? UGH, all the white ones they have great details and she's just adventurous? Anyone can be that.
Her name is spelled Tiana* and I totally agree with you.
Dude its not that deep. Y'all stay reaching 😒
@@kokoaverage5239 it is
Ms. Wilson WHY IS EVERYTHING ABOUT RACE FUCKS SAKE
They could of said "Tiana was a hard working young women who work really hard and saved her money because she wanted to accomplished her dream and her family's and become a business owner ..she never was discouraged by anyone...like Tiana was a really strong women ..one of the best princess out there !
Princess do have more negative connotations than positive periodt. I 100% agree with jennie
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Sami Arun mahmood I feel they didn’t get her point
I’m 20 and a family member 🤢 calls me princess (b*tchy) because my dad takes care of my life financially
Alice Craz that’s just someone joking
Alice Craz girl be like “I’m a princess that’s got my life paid for.”
@@rebeccat7005 not really its my half-sister's husband and he thinks i don't deserve what i have
@@AlheriDB I do lol
@@averyjohnson7600 If you're still in college or university it's ok. When you're done and you have to strike out and make your life then its gonna be on you and no one else. I think he's just a good dad and you should appreciate everything you have and how your family got it for you.
I am waiting for Adrienne to stop saying...”I am not a mother but” prayers up when your ready 🙏🏽
Who's here after Adrienne welcomed her son?
Princess is a beautiful word. I picture a Princess like Diana...I got a cup and everything!
people offended about everything
Hmm. I haven't heard that term used in a long while. I guess it depends on the context. Nothing is wrong with the word though. As long as it is used respectfully.
Gosh. Is anything acceptable these days🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Haha...I know. Soon everything will be offensive
Jeannie is spitting straight facts. Remember when Alex used to mock Jo by calling her “princess”
I understand why some people find “Princess” sexist. At one of my jobs, my coworker got promoted to manager and whenever she would tell the employees what to do they’d groan and say “yes princess” or “here comes the princess again” which made her seem like she was bossy or too controlling just for doing her job!
Yes Disney has done a great job showing princesses in a positive life but in REAL LIFE, aside from children when has being called a princess been a good thing? I think I agree that we need to change the definition of what a princess it. It’s happening slowly though
Natasha Exactly it has definitely been used in a condescending way in the real world especially in the workplace. It was really annoying that they were dismissing Jeannie’s point.
I’ve never associated Princess with spoiled. I’ve always seen it as a compliment. I think of Disney princesses and there’s good qualities associated with them 🤷🏾♀️
No there’s not lol all Disney princesses do is desperately go after men and wait to be saved
nicole avery if that’s how you choose to see it...
The word "princess" it can go many directions and it just depends on how people say it or representing it as. When I think of the word princess as a child it's like oh I'm special in a good way. As a adult I think of it in Disney princess way which is confident, kind, hardworking, adventurous and independent. Like there's a quote from a Barbie movie called Princess Charm School and the character Blaire/Princess Sophia say "There's a princess in every girl " I love that quote so much. So don't think of the word princess in a bad way because it can be in a good way too.
I was waiting for somebody to point out how it’s all about tone
Whenever I hear princess all I imagine is some dude making fun of an entitled woman
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Then maybe you have an incorrect perspective of the word cuz it's really not that deep.
Dr Shrimp Puerto Rico all I hear is a dad calling his little girl princess or a boyfriend calling his girlfriend
Me too,All I see is someone bratty, you know like whatever you want princess kind of way
@@dmwilaa it's not the incorrect perspective because it does happen a lot and I've seen it happen
I am one of five kids and the three of us in the middle are females. My Dad still calls us all his princesses and I am the youngest at 32!
Jeannie needs her own show ! Podcast or something her views on everything or sooo relatable and she’s the REALest one.
Mulan IS👏MY👏GIRL👏!! Princess or not! 😭😭
Loni be swearing to much for daytime tv 🤣 she so funny 😂❤️
However, tamera be pissing me of recently.
Princess to me was always used for spoiled and brat
So yes ....
I always thought it had positive connotations.
@@mimia.4810 depends on the tone
Keren Carrillo really it was always pretty and kind for me
It’s not that deep.
God thank u someone who finally gets it. The whole conversation was just pointless.😴 Since when did the word princess become sexist. Some father and mothers call there baby girl princess. 😒
I’m a guy and one of my guy friends used to call me “princess” as both a derogatory term and a term of endearment. I’m gay. And also at the time I was so nice/noble to EVERYONE that I was sometimes naive as to people’s ill intentions. I took forever to get ready because I always HAD to look good. And i wasn’t hyper masculine like all all the other (straight) dudes in our friend group. So he called me a princess to make fun off all of those afore mentioned traits and to call me high maintenance. But it was also his term of endearment for me because he was my closest friend in that friend group and he’d literally be my knight in shining armor when I needed help with anything or if someone tried to start something with me (even tho I could easily defend myself. I’m not scared to throw hands).
But yeah, that is a perfect example of both the positive and negative connotations that could be inferred when calling someone a princess. I’m really confused as to how none of the other girls picked up on Jeanie’s point. She was spot on.
The girls talking about Disney movies
Loni: or Shrek
The Disney Community started quacking 😂
Aww tam, "she enjoyed the music.." that was so sweet !
I'm with Adrienne on the toddler!
Tamera is taking it personally! This topic seems very serious to her 🤣
idk, i agree with jeannie but tbh for me, i’ve always seen the word “princess” being used when your bae talks to you ? like in a cute, pet name ?
Why is it that after Loni's contagious laughter I immediately laughed out like her? Hmmm!?
Im with adrienne on this...im leaving the kids that are too young (to even enjoy or remeber) while me and husband go on a vacation....sometimes....
Like Adrienee said. "Let's try to find the positive in everything instead of the negative."
We cant call people anything!😒 we are just going to call you: *Existing Presence*
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i didn't know there was a definition like that for the word princess lol i get what Jeannie saying i get what everyone saying but i feel like it's not really a negative thing unless you use it that way
Some do mean it positively, with no ill intention. Being fair, some people DO see it as Jeannie described!
Otherwise why would it need to be changed? She's right!
Me personally, I just feel like whether they change it or not we need to stop encouraging our children to define and redefine themselves based on fiction and/or the opinion of others.
Teach them to see themselves for who they are and receive it based on their true attributes and aspirations. If it don't fit just don't receive it. I'm telling you man we are what we eat!
I call my daughter a princess when she is being kind
this is such a good fit on Loni, her makeup and her hair. Get it girl
Awww, you all look like 'princesses' i.e. looking so pretty and looking like you came from a magical place😍🤗🎉
Loni
".. and I put this on my stand-up.." 👀
Whenever a good word gets used in a derogatory manner. We toss the good word aside. We neglect good.
Turned back into the Tree monsters 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My parents did both. They took their lil vacations and we did family ones. We always stayed with my grandmother or cousins and we were cool
"We never hear about the prince and the frog face bitch" LOL! Loni had me dead 😂
There were many years I did not have the opportunity to Ride Adult Rides, because of kids, but now my grown Granddaughter say I am a Bomb Grandma on the Roller Coaster! My Grandaughter said Granny I am so proud of you!😂😂
2:58 - 3:02 Adriennes awkward hand slam 😂😂 am I the only one who notices stuff like that ?
why Tamara keep having Lonnie and her negative energy around her family? especially since she stated she doesn't believe in the "girl code" on the Khloe video. she need to keep that chick at a distance!!!!
Princess is a Great compliment!! People making something outta nothing 😑
It's the tone on how it's said that could be endearing or condescending
"You know that's a life lesson. We all gonna be on rides. You ain't going to INCONVENIENCE all of us because you are a BABY!"
HAHA savage. Imagine staring at a wide eyed cute baby and saying "Na-uh. U aint inconvenience us, baby! Not this time..."
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So Jeannie needs to be the other mom on this show. Tamera is too conservative and outdated sometimes. I love hearing a different perspective. But it seems to only be respected on topics like this once you are a mother. So please push this Lor blasian out already mai goodness.
maybe the rumors are true!!
Cinderella was always a Princess, not only through marriage. Her birth mother (the queen) died of illness and so the father married the step mother who forced her down from her princess status to a maid because of jealousy. She simply got her status back at the end of the movie and she showed what a true “princess” encompassed. Getchyo facts straighhhht ;)
Thank youuuuu!!!! I was wondering which Cinderella they were talking about, coz she’s always been a princess.
😂 ohh Adrienne stop always waiting for audience approval of your opinion, she’s cute always makes me laugh though
*all I know is.... my boyfriends grandpa who’s in his 70’s... uses the term “princess” in the most negative light.... my boyfriends brother broke up with his girlfriend recently because she was too “needy” he said... when we were discussing it with his grandpa he goes “yeah apparently she was a princess”. So yes.... TO ME “princess” is just a cute NAME.. that’s all it should carry.. is a NAME, it’s a TITLE... it’s not too deep to most. But there are some people who use it in a certain way and I think that’s what the question being asked is referring to!*
*EDIT: I love Tamera. I love them all. Just my two cents.. for some reason I felt she was almost offended someone could look at the word “princess” in a negative way... and nobody is disagreeing with her at the table. Jeannie wasn’t saying that saying “princess” SHOULD be used in a negative way... she’s just bringing up the fact that some people DOOOO use that term in a negative way.*
*its not the way you use it in a sentence.. just your meaning behind it. Just like my example above with my boyfriends grandpa...*
*and the question was “is princess SEXIST?” Not... “if calling children princess’ is bad” like I think Tamera was getting offended by*
*disclaimer... I freaking love the real and all four of the hosts. This is JUST SIMPLY my observations about this ONE clip and the topic at hand... much love* ♡
*last edit after finishing the clip.... they looked too deep into this.... I felt everyone was mad at jeannie for some reason LOL..... jeannie wasn’t saying being a princess is bad (I mean towards the end she did say u should feel good about yourself without being called a princess, yes) but all jeannie was answering... WAS THE QUESTION.. the question simply was “is it sexist?” Jeannie was just saying “yes... it CAN be.. because some people do look at it that way.. in a negative light”. That was ALL....*
*i will even stick up for Tamera because I just don’t think she was able to explain her feelings correctly... I don’t think when Tamera calls her daughter a princess that it means she’s more powerful or more better than anyone..... I think Tamera just means it in a endearing (and most importantly) very SIMPLE way... it’s **JUST.A.CUTE.NAME*
*all I know is? Yes..... the term “princess” can come across as sexist. As I believe my boyfriends grandpa is sexist LOL. Does it mean it’s sexist for everyone? No. Some people use the term in a good way. That’s all!! Lol!!*
This is ridiculous 😑
Just depends on how it's said but it's really not that deep
I remember when Alex used to call Jo princess all the time 😂
How do the 3 stooges not get what Jeannie is saying. Everyone knows princess can be used as a derogatory term.
Jeannie is 100% right.
Did not know Princess was negative. Wow!! Well I live in the UK where we have Princesses
Also I am British and African- and although I do not address myself as "Princess" - the maternal side of my African family is royalty
Shocking that a beautiful word has a negative connotation. What is wrong with people? Why do people have to spoil everything???!!!
*lmfaooo loni is CRAZY* 😂
I love getting called princess by my mans 💕💕
I think it depends on how you say it, I call my daughters princesses endearingly but I have heard it said negatively also in reference to someone being a spoiled brat. Tam is kinda annoying me here.
Never wanted Tamera to shut up so bad 🤦🤦🤦
Out of this whole segment the only thing I was offended by was how tamera kept calling moana a princess🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
That’s funny...so it entirely depends on cultural context. Ppl in the US, associate the word ‘princess’ with a Disney Princess. In Europe, we associate the word princess with the Royal family who don’t necessarily have the best image in that context.
Tamara always thinks that she’s right.She constantly talks over people and gets mad when people talk over her !