Which would you choose? The 3.0 suprised us, it is definitely going to go on a couple of trips with us this winter. lectricebikes.sjv.io/GjL1o2 (affiliate link) Here is that link again if you are interested in picking up your own XP 3.0.
Was going to order the 2.0 last night but got busy (ended up being a blessing in disguise). Logged back on at 3am to order the 2.0 and saw the 3.0 had JUST launched with $277 worth of free accessories. Ordered. Which of the two variants handles better? The regular 3.0 or the 3.0ST? Thank you
I purchased the XPremium about a month ago and I do love it. But I really wish it had grips like this new XP 3. I think the seat looks better too. I thought the problem with the seat is that people keep thinking a bigger softer padded seat would be more comfortable when really they need the seat to be smaller and just break in their own seat (butt). Once you ride enough those smaller seat allow you to pedal more comfortable and longer. Lectric just keeps improving on their models. It make a buyer almost slow to purchase because they might be releasing a new and improved model tomorrow! I am still glad I finally bit the bullet and bought the XPremium with all this said. I do think I will get new grips and this new seat. I love the range of my bike. I am a heavy rider at 300 lbs and this bike is great. I am 66years old.
Thank you for this, especially stating your weight. I am about 240 lbs, so this definitely was a good video for me. I'm convinced, I want the 3.0 now, thank you.
$999 Lectric 3,0 is awesome! Love the welded rack, elite headlight and Seat-post suspension!! A $277 BLACK FRIDAY FREEBY $200 buys the 4AH upgrade! How much grip does it take to stop with mechanical disc brakes from 28mph while carrying a passenger? 500W/1000W peak at 48V 10AH from 2 more amps in the controller? And a new range of what....?
Did you miss the uphill section where the 2.0 was 15-20% faster than the 3.0? No need to ignore that part Understanding why it happened is very important!!! It may had to do with gearing choice. Cheers 🍻🍻
Yeah, in my experience, there is no discernable performance increase going from the earlier XP generations to the 3.0. The improved top gear ratio does help in terms of comfortable pedalling speed and resistance (i.e., it eliminates "ghost pedaling" at high speeds), but as far as I can tell, the overall power output of the motor is the same either way.
Thank you : ) I bought mine yesterday 11/1/2022 using your link. Woot, I'm so excited and I'm just waiting for tracking info. this is going to be my first E-Bike woot!! woot!! have a good day: )
The difference there was so minimal.. Aside from the welded rack and hydraulic brakes they are the same exact bike.. Hydraulic brakes may be worth the upgrade, though.
Get the seat and basket and extended range battery deal like me. Now will convert me old Rocket from 36 to 48. Have new display and battery plate with pins new. Just new motor controller may be needed. And service motor:lube? Only 2 years old but I rode thousands o ' miles
Agree here, just took delivery of my 2 x 2.0's in October spending almost 2500, I guess the bikes are OK but to then get emails and text messages just a few weeks later saying "hey buy the new 3.0 it's better than that old 2.0 you just bought" is pretty shitty. The new edition does address some of my concerns and frustrations with the 2.0 but now I'm completely screwed and cannot afford or justify an upgrade so soon. I reached out to their service team and basically was told "sucks for you" I even offered to buy a bike without a battery and just use my battery apparently this is not an option. If I'm being completely honest here if go with Rad if I had it to do all over again, lectric has a very terrible return policy and I can't help but wonder why...seems pretty clear that Instead of telling potential buyers "hey we have a new version coming soon" they would rather just keep pushing bikes out the door at all costs to avoid any potential temporary lull to the balance sheet.
I LOVE your videos and your brand! Your logo is awesome too! I am looking at the 2.0 long range bike since its on sale, and in stock...The biggest thing is the value and its in stock, the 2.0 still a nice bike?
Gosh darn it, I didn't see the hints and ordered a XP 2.0. Been riding it this week and it's really nice! But seeing the XP 3.0 come out just as I started to enjoy the 2.0 (which had a black friday sale of its own) is a bit of a gut punch... Do you think it might be worth upgrading in the future?
I think you'll be happy with the 2.0. It's still a solid bike. Now if you were planning to utilize the full weight capacity of the rear rack then I would probably consider upgrading.
Was going to order the 2.0 last night but got busy (ended up being a blessing in disguise). Logged back on at 3am to order the 2.0 and saw the 3.0 had JUST launched with $277 worth of free accessories. Ordered. Which of the two variants handles better? The regular 3.0 or the 3.0ST? Thank you
FYI: I had my cart filled and then came back here to click the affiliate link. That opened a page that saw my same cart items. So, the channel ::should:: get credit. Thx for your content.
@@EbikeEscape np. Fwiw, they also gave me a survey, at the end, so I mentioned the channel there. Hopefully, you’re covered one way or the other. It was a big gd order, so somebody ought to benefit (besides us).
I have a 2.0 I changed my breaks and I am about to buy a better star with more teeth overall u can kind of make a 2.0 better if you wanted to but the 3.0 is a very good bike
Great Question. We have a bit more riding to do before we can definitively say. But we have found Lectric to be very accurate in the past with their range estimates. So if you go off of their numbers. It looks like the range all remains the same. 2 extra amps is a small amount. And the rear motor sounded like it was more efficient. So I believe their numbers for the 3.0.
@@EbikeEscape has the weight remained the same. New rigid rear rack & front shock should be heavier. Only time will tell how the extra torque affects range & reliability.
I may be nitpIcking here but I see that the cable is exposed all the way under the downtube rather than being integrated unside. Not too attractive. Also how is the overall welding? I noted weld marks visible in one or two areas . Of course all that has no bearing on performance, just aesthetics. Comments?
The issue we have found with internal cables is they are tougher to get to fold without kinking the cable. Aesthetics of course internal looks better. As far as welding goes. We have yet to have one of our models crack or break. Also worth remembering that this is a sub $1000 ebike. I recommend checking out the Denago Folding 1 or the Aventon Sinch. Those models have some appeal that I think you might be looking for.
I'm really not liking my xp 3.0 so far. Put the elite headlight on it, and no lights or tail lights. Emails sent to support, no response so far. The bike is only 😢a week old.
I had the 11-13-15-18-21-24-34 teeth freewill installed on my new XP 2.0 long range. It climbs better than the stock version. How might that compare to the new XP 3.0 version?
The setting you are looking for is P08 in the advanced settings. Hold the "+" and "-" button down at the same time, until the screen changes. Then cycle through the advanced settings to get to setting P08. Turn that from 45 to 100. And your top speed of the bike on throttle only is bumped up to 28 mph. Do this at your own risk, there are settings in this advanced area that can harm your bike. Also consult all local laws and regulations before making any adjustments.
@@EbikeEscape No, changing the top speed setting (from 20 mph to 28 mph) only applies to the pedal assist mode. The max speed in throttle-only is not adjustable and remains at 20 mph.
Im so confused, can you help me out bro. The Lectric 2.0 Long Range is $1069 and the Lectric 3.0 regular is $999 , out of these both, which one would you choose? I am going to use it to mainly film neighborhoods and communities for my real estate! I kind of want the long range, but then again I want the upgraded one. HELP ME BROOO
Business write off? Go with the 3.0 long range 😄 But really unless you like the 3.0 features (for me the integrated rear rack for children) the 2.0 is a screaming deal.
The two battery is only offered on the XPremium. And would be a 20Ah combined capacity. The capacity on the standard XP 3.0 is 10Ah and the Long Range XP 3.0 has a 14Ah capacity.
That I do not know. I think in most cases you'll do well if you buy a name brand but obviously any brand can have issues. Just follow the easy instructions on battery storage and charging.
Which setting did you change? And is that top speed on throttle only or pedaling? Another though, is make sure when you are shifting into the smallest gear (the 11 tooth). Sometimes things can get bent during shipping and not allow you into the smallest gear. Which will effect your pedaling top speed.
David sez: _"Unlocked the motor by following instructions, but fasted bike will go is 17.9mph. I’m 200lbs."_ Yeah, I have the same experience. I weigh about the same as you, but in throttle-only mode, my top speed is about 17.5 to 18 mph. And that's on a fresh battery. As it discharges, the top speed decreases as well. At around half full, my top speed is only about 15 mph. 😕 (In pedal assist mode, this is less of a problem. I can get it up to around 25 mph in top gear in pedal assist mode. Maybe even a little bit more if I push really hard.)
@@EbikeEscape Funny, I think the classic version looks better. Much sleeker, imho. (Step-through is indeed easier to access, though, I'll grant you that. But it also puts the pedals closer to the ground, which is a slight disadvantage.) All in all, I prefer the classic version. 😊
You do not. Texas follows the federal ebike classifications. Which allows Lectric ebikes to all be ridden without the need for any other sort of requirements.
If you like biking, the Mid-Drive has a more natural feel. The 3.0 is awesome, but still a hub drive motor. So it feels a bit different. Where are you trying them out? In Phoenix?
I bought my XPremium a month ago and it really is great. I think that mid-drive really makes the difference. I actually pedal around tight u-turns in the road where as I think the X has more unstable feeling trying to do that. Plus the fact that I think the mid-drives are so much quieter than the hub drives. I like to ride on nature trails and I don't think other people appreciate noisy ebikes on the trails. Mine is whisper quiet.
Mid Drive uses electricity more efficiently, but stretches the chain. I went from a mid-drive to a hub Drive and stopped having to switch chains every year or so. Also, I'm more confident I can throttle out of a dangerous situation without worrying about my chain slipping.
Update: I went to Lectric Headquarters today. It was a very cool facility and Alex was great to work with. Being able to take unattended test drives in the nearby neighborhoods made all the difference. I took 4 long rides. One on the XPremium, one on the XP 3.0 and two separate rides on the XP 3.0 Step-thru. I was really trying to convince myself that the step-thru was the way to go, but....I loved the natural bike riding feel of the XPremium, along with the quiet and smooth hydraulic brakes. It was a night/day difference from the hub drive motor due to the overall realistic true bike pedaling experience, but in the end, it didn't win out. Unfortunately, it almost felt like I was riding an old Puch moped from the 80's. it just didn't seem to have the same "get up and go" perkiness that the other two had. It had such a heavy feeling and drag to it and wasn't as nimble as the others due to that. As I rode it, I learned how to take better advantage of the power though. The XP 3.0 Step-Thru was next. There was just something about it that felt off from the start. It was very hard to put my finger on what exactly it was, thus why I took two separate test drives on it in-between the others. Possibly it was due to it being "lower to the ground" then the XP 3.0 and also a feeling of the frame just not being as "tight" and "strong". Almost as if the bike was made of two separate halves. The XP 3.0 won out. It just felt the most comfortable overall and it was just as easy to mount, at least for me. Please keep in mind, I'm a total ebike novice and not exactly a spring chicken (56 years old). I only rode one for the first time a year ago (XP 2.0) and haven't ridden one since. Take anything I said above with a grain of salt, as I am not claiming to speak with any authority. The only downfall of the test drives is that the area was all totally flat. I couldn't test out the power of the 500 watt hub-motor on any substantial inclines like I would have to deal with living 30 minutes North of the Lectric facility. I'd love to test out another ebike brand with a 750 watt hub-motor, but having the ebike manufacture right "down the road" might provide a better overall value add! Thanks, Lectric!
Lectric is full of it. They claim their price dropped when it was never advertised as so and just came out today November 01, 2022. The 3.0 is the exact same 2.0 hub drive. Yes it PEAKS AT 1100, but that is not constant. The suspension seat is $69 for the 2.0 but not for the Lite, it is $99. And when you get a long range 2.0 the seat is not in option on there. I do not like being taking for a fool. The Lite should be $300 compared to the higher trims that have specials which is not really a special, because everything in this world has a high to extreme mark ups.
Trying to maintain that $999 price point makes it hard to incorporate rear suspension. We think the upgrades to the motor and drivetrain are quite the upgrades.
You say the battery is backwards-compatible with the XP and XP 2.0, but KevCentral says otherwise* -- that the battery on the 3.0 is *_not_* compatible with prior XP versions. Who's right? ___________________ * th-cam.com/video/9RtG7o7bSmg/w-d-xo.html at the 12:14 mark
We reached out to Lectric to confirm. The batteries are backwards compatible. The issue, Lectric said the issue was all reviewers got pre-production models. And this issue was changed on production models. Feel free to reach out to Lectric. They can confirm the backwards compatibility.
@@EbikeEscape Wow, that was a fast reply! 😃 That's good news for me, because I have an XP (1.0) and I'd like to upgrade to an XP 3.0, and it would be nice to be able to use the XP's old battery as a backup. Thanks for the info! 👍😊
Update: I bought the 3.0, and the old battery from my 1.0 didn't fit. 😡 It looks like it is _supposed_ to, but due to what I perceive to be poor manufacturing tolerances, it was too tight and had to be forced hard to go all the way into the frame tube. At that point, it was in so tight that the only way to remove the old batt from the new bike was to pry it out with a screwdriver. Worse, the locking pin on the 1.0 battery didn't line up with the corresponding hole in the 3.0 frame, so I couldn't unlock and power on the battery. So it was a literal non-starter. So while it appears that the batteries from older XP generations are _supposed_ to be interchangeable, in fact they are not. Very disappointing.
the slime is a terrible addition. it caused build up in my tube because it sat for so long between when they assembles it, and when they actually shipped me the bike. I had to have a bike shop get it sorted for me. maybe if the slime wasn't added by morons? who knows. but Lectic told me "its normal to have your rear tire wobble up and down while riding it" I have 2 other ebikes from a competitor, neither of those had a "normal" wobble in the rear tire. i would literally be bouncing up and down while riding the bike. LECTRIC SAID THIS WAS NORMAL
@@EbikeEscape yeah i checked that. the bike shop said the slime caused a section of the tube to almost double back on itself, causing like a ball to form, making the weight unbalance at a section of the tire. its all set now, luckily they did it free of charge. the fact that Lectric said a wheel wobble was a "normal" is insane to me
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Which would you choose? The 3.0 suprised us, it is definitely going to go on a couple of trips with us this winter.
lectricebikes.sjv.io/GjL1o2 (affiliate link) Here is that link again if you are interested in picking up your own XP 3.0.
Was going to order the 2.0 last night but got busy (ended up being a blessing in disguise). Logged back on at 3am to order the 2.0 and saw the 3.0 had JUST launched with $277 worth of free accessories. Ordered. Which of the two variants handles better? The regular 3.0 or the 3.0ST? Thank you
What is the grade of the hill in your test?
I modded my 2.0 with a 11-28 freewheel and this is a welcome change as standard on the 3.0.
I did the same and upgraded my 2.0 to a larger battery. There's not much reason for me to upgrade to a 3.0 unless I really want the newer controller.
I purchased the XPremium about a month ago and I do love it. But I really wish it had grips like this new XP 3. I think the seat looks better too. I thought the problem with the seat is that people keep thinking a bigger softer padded seat would be more comfortable when really they need the seat to be smaller and just break in their own seat (butt). Once you ride enough those smaller seat allow you to pedal more comfortable and longer. Lectric just keeps improving on their models. It make a buyer almost slow to purchase because they might be releasing a new and improved model tomorrow! I am still glad I finally bit the bullet and bought the XPremium with all this said. I do think I will get new grips and this new seat. I love the range of my bike. I am a heavy rider at 300 lbs and this bike is great. I am 66years old.
Lectric normally stocks replacement parts. If you contact them, they can probably sell you the 3.0 grips and possibly even a seat.
Thank you for this, especially stating your weight. I am about 240 lbs, so this definitely was a good video for me. I'm convinced, I want the 3.0 now, thank you.
$999 Lectric 3,0 is awesome! Love the welded rack, elite headlight and Seat-post suspension!! A $277 BLACK FRIDAY FREEBY $200 buys the 4AH upgrade! How much grip does it take to stop with mechanical disc brakes from 28mph while carrying a passenger? 500W/1000W peak at 48V 10AH from 2 more amps in the controller? And a new range of what....?
Did you miss the uphill section where the 2.0 was 15-20% faster than the 3.0?
No need to ignore that part
Understanding why it happened is very important!!!
It may had to do with gearing choice.
Cheers
🍻🍻
With the same 11-28t i think it’d be hardly any different. I’ll be keeping my 2.0 and mod it soon enough with some POWER
Yeah, in my experience, there is no discernable performance increase going from the earlier XP generations to the 3.0.
The improved top gear ratio does help in terms of comfortable pedalling speed and resistance (i.e., it eliminates "ghost pedaling" at high speeds), but as far as I can tell, the overall power output of the motor is the same either way.
Thank you : ) I bought mine yesterday 11/1/2022 using your link. Woot, I'm so excited and I'm just waiting for tracking info. this is going to be my first E-Bike woot!! woot!! have a good day: )
Thank you! Hope you enjoy it as much as we do. -JT
I am 1200 miles and a year and half of riding hard in colorado rockys and love my 2.0 i wanna upgrade but love my 2.0
That's awesome!
Well done review. Your comments are very helpful too.
Enjoyed the comparison video, but would've liked a short summary and recommendation at the end. Who should choose 3.0 and who should choose 2.0?
The difference there was so minimal..
Aside from the welded rack and hydraulic brakes they are the same exact bike..
Hydraulic brakes may be worth the upgrade, though.
Get the seat and basket and extended range battery deal like me. Now will convert me old Rocket from 36 to 48. Have new display and battery plate with pins new. Just new motor controller may be needed. And service motor:lube? Only 2 years old but I rode thousands o ' miles
Saw 48 v motor controllers Amazon $80. Worth the conversion. Will it work? Is swappin out controller wires easy?
Really disappointed the company didn't let anyone know the release was coming. Would have waited a month for this upgrade.
They did post that updates to the XP were being announced Nov. 1 on their web site.
@@chow-chihuang4903 they didn't post that a month ago.
Agree here, just took delivery of my 2 x 2.0's in October spending almost 2500, I guess the bikes are OK but to then get emails and text messages just a few weeks later saying "hey buy the new 3.0 it's better than that old 2.0 you just bought" is pretty shitty. The new edition does address some of my concerns and frustrations with the 2.0 but now I'm completely screwed and cannot afford or justify an upgrade so soon. I reached out to their service team and basically was told "sucks for you" I even offered to buy a bike without a battery and just use my battery apparently this is not an option. If I'm being completely honest here if go with Rad if I had it to do all over again, lectric has a very terrible return policy and I can't help but wonder why...seems pretty clear that Instead of telling potential buyers "hey we have a new version coming soon" they would rather just keep pushing bikes out the door at all costs to avoid any potential temporary lull to the balance sheet.
@@sebrofc I am with you. I will never buy another bike from lectric. Got my bike the day they annouced the 3.0, same price. Dirty pull.on their part.
Sell your bike on face book or offer up it holds it vale big time you should have no problem making that money back thats what i did😉. Sold for 950
I LOVE your videos and your brand! Your logo is awesome too!
I am looking at the 2.0 long range bike since its on sale, and in stock...The biggest thing is the value and its in stock, the 2.0 still a nice bike?
Gosh darn it, I didn't see the hints and ordered a XP 2.0. Been riding it this week and it's really nice! But seeing the XP 3.0 come out just as I started to enjoy the 2.0 (which had a black friday sale of its own) is a bit of a gut punch...
Do you think it might be worth upgrading in the future?
I think you'll be happy with the 2.0. It's still a solid bike. Now if you were planning to utilize the full weight capacity of the rear rack then I would probably consider upgrading.
see my post above...these bikes are easy peasy to upgrade component wise
Is there a video showing how to remove speed limiter can’t seem to find it please
Was going to order the 2.0 last night but got busy (ended up being a blessing in disguise). Logged back on at 3am to order the 2.0 and saw the 3.0 had JUST launched with $277 worth of free accessories. Ordered. Which of the two variants handles better? The regular 3.0 or the 3.0ST? Thank you
Nice! The 3.0 is “accidentally” worth the wait.
FYI: I had my cart filled and then came back here to click the affiliate link. That opened a page that saw my same cart items. So, the channel ::should:: get credit. Thx for your content.
Appreciate you thinking about us!
@@EbikeEscape np. Fwiw, they also gave me a survey, at the end, so I mentioned the channel there.
Hopefully, you’re covered one way or the other.
It was a big gd order, so somebody ought to benefit (besides us).
Those do help quite a bit. Cheers! -JT
Are they not still doing the 100 off when you buy two and the 178 in accessories we are trying to purchase four bikes and none of that is coming up
I have a 2.0 I changed my breaks and I am about to buy a better star with more teeth overall u can kind of make a 2.0 better if you wanted to but the 3.0 is a very good bike
they need the slime as the tires are very thin for weight... waiting on the 3.0 now
How much more battery does the 3.0 use with the reprogrammed controller?
Does range decrease?
Great Question. We have a bit more riding to do before we can definitively say. But we have found Lectric to be very accurate in the past with their range estimates.
So if you go off of their numbers. It looks like the range all remains the same. 2 extra amps is a small amount. And the rear motor sounded like it was more efficient. So I believe their numbers for the 3.0.
@@EbikeEscape has the weight remained the same. New rigid rear rack & front shock should be heavier.
Only time will tell how the extra torque affects range & reliability.
I hope & pray for one of these. 🙏 🙏 🙏 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Where can I get a T-shirt that you guys are wearing?
I may be nitpIcking here but I see that the cable is exposed all the way under the downtube rather than being integrated unside. Not too attractive. Also how is the overall welding? I noted weld marks visible in one or two areas . Of course all that has no bearing on performance, just aesthetics. Comments?
The issue we have found with internal cables is they are tougher to get to fold without kinking the cable. Aesthetics of course internal looks better.
As far as welding goes. We have yet to have one of our models crack or break. Also worth remembering that this is a sub $1000 ebike.
I recommend checking out the Denago Folding 1 or the Aventon Sinch. Those models have some appeal that I think you might be looking for.
I'm really not liking my xp 3.0 so far. Put the elite headlight on it, and no lights or tail lights. Emails sent to support, no response so far. The bike is only 😢a week old.
less than 100 dollars the 2.0 can be upgraded to be the same or better than the 3.0..the only real difference would be frame set ups
The rear motor is different also. So I think that would cost a bit more to make the same.
I had the 11-13-15-18-21-24-34 teeth freewill installed on my new XP 2.0 long range. It climbs better than the stock version. How might that compare to the new XP 3.0 version?
Cannot exactly comment. But with the motor and controller being larger I think it would be quite a bit better. -JT
Ordering the xp 3.0 tonight! What's this I hear about unlocking the motor?
The setting you are looking for is P08 in the advanced settings. Hold the "+" and "-" button down at the same time, until the screen changes. Then cycle through the advanced settings to get to setting P08. Turn that from 45 to 100. And your top speed of the bike on throttle only is bumped up to 28 mph.
Do this at your own risk, there are settings in this advanced area that can harm your bike. Also consult all local laws and regulations before making any adjustments.
@@EbikeEscape No, changing the top speed setting (from 20 mph to 28 mph) only applies to the pedal assist mode. The max speed in throttle-only is not adjustable and remains at 20 mph.
excellent review style
Thank you kindly!
Im so confused, can you help me out bro. The Lectric 2.0 Long Range is $1069 and the Lectric 3.0 regular is $999 , out of these both, which one would you choose? I am going to use it to mainly film neighborhoods and communities for my real estate! I kind of want the long range, but then again I want the upgraded one. HELP ME BROOO
Business write off? Go with the 3.0 long range 😄 But really unless you like the 3.0 features (for me the integrated rear rack for children) the 2.0 is a screaming deal.
@@EbikeEscape Thank you! Other people have told me to get the 3.0 and just get an extra battery for the future
Please send me description
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Motor ??
Battery ??
What's the capacity of the two battery options? All I see on their website is some vague wording on the range.
The two battery is only offered on the XPremium. And would be a 20Ah combined capacity.
The capacity on the standard XP 3.0 is 10Ah and the Long Range XP 3.0 has a 14Ah capacity.
how does the xp 3.0 compare to xp premium?
Honestly tho because I'm think that premium is not so premium even with the 2 batteries. It 5oo more and just almost make it not worth it any more...🤔
Be nice if they sold stickers for your bike
The 2.0 still a good bike right???
Definitely
What’s new is they don’t have them!! They don’t know when either
Can you show a measured difference of handlebars width of 2.0 and 3.0?
That I do not know. I think in most cases you'll do well if you buy a name brand but obviously any brand can have issues. Just follow the easy instructions on battery storage and charging.
@@EbikeEscape Uh.... I think you may have replied to the wrong comment.
Just got the XP3.0 today. Unlocked the motor by following instructions, but fasted bike will go is 17.9mph. I’m 200lbs.
Which setting did you change? And is that top speed on throttle only or pedaling?
Another though, is make sure when you are shifting into the smallest gear (the 11 tooth). Sometimes things can get bent during shipping and not allow you into the smallest gear. Which will effect your pedaling top speed.
I had that happen when I bought my 2.0 ,but after a few charges it should improve.
David sez: _"Unlocked the motor by following instructions, but fasted bike will go is 17.9mph. I’m 200lbs."_
Yeah, I have the same experience. I weigh about the same as you, but in throttle-only mode, my top speed is about 17.5 to 18 mph. And that's on a fresh battery. As it discharges, the top speed decreases as well. At around half full, my top speed is only about 15 mph. 😕
(In pedal assist mode, this is less of a problem. I can get it up to around 25 mph in top gear in pedal assist mode. Maybe even a little bit more if I push really hard.)
What are your thoughts on step-through vs non-step-through version?
I prefer the step thru both for looks and accessibility.
@@EbikeEscape Funny, I think the classic version looks better. Much sleeker, imho. (Step-through is indeed easier to access, though, I'll grant you that. But it also puts the pedals closer to the ground, which is a slight disadvantage.) All in all, I prefer the classic version. 😊
How many teeth do they have on the front sprocket and would a bigger front sprocket make it go faster?
You could change to front to a larger ring to get a little bit more steam, but how much faster then 30mph are you trying to go?
@@EbikeEscape a few more mph faster, mister
Do we need driving licence to ride this in Texas? Any registration?
You do not. Texas follows the federal ebike classifications. Which allows Lectric ebikes to all be ridden without the need for any other sort of requirements.
Wanted to know what is the battery life on a full charge?
Lectric’s website has a range chart on it. We found it to be quite realistic in our previous testing. Check that out.
Here is a link. The chart is less then half way down the page: lectricebikes.sjv.io/GjL1o2 (affiliate link)
So 3.0 vs Premium. Does that mid-drive motor make it a no brainer? Going to check them both out this weekend. Thoughts?
If you like biking, the Mid-Drive has a more natural feel. The 3.0 is awesome, but still a hub drive motor. So it feels a bit different.
Where are you trying them out? In Phoenix?
@@EbikeEscape Thanks for the reply. Yes, Phoenix! Based on what I am reading so far, I will probably go with the 3.0.
I bought my XPremium a month ago and it really is great. I think that mid-drive really makes the difference. I actually pedal around tight u-turns in the road where as I think the X has more unstable feeling trying to do that. Plus the fact that I think the mid-drives are so much quieter than the hub drives. I like to ride on nature trails and I don't think other people appreciate noisy ebikes on the trails. Mine is whisper quiet.
Mid Drive uses electricity more efficiently, but stretches the chain. I went from a mid-drive to a hub Drive and stopped having to switch chains every year or so. Also, I'm more confident I can throttle out of a dangerous situation without worrying about my chain slipping.
Update: I went to Lectric Headquarters today. It was a very cool facility and Alex was great to work with. Being able to take unattended test drives in the nearby neighborhoods made all the difference. I took 4 long rides. One on the XPremium, one on the XP 3.0 and two separate rides on the XP 3.0 Step-thru. I was really trying to convince myself that the step-thru was the way to go, but....I loved the natural bike riding feel of the XPremium, along with the quiet and smooth hydraulic brakes. It was a night/day difference from the hub drive motor due to the overall realistic true bike pedaling experience, but in the end, it didn't win out. Unfortunately, it almost felt like I was riding an old Puch moped from the 80's. it just didn't seem to have the same "get up and go" perkiness that the other two had. It had such a heavy feeling and drag to it and wasn't as nimble as the others due to that. As I rode it, I learned how to take better advantage of the power though. The XP 3.0 Step-Thru was next. There was just something about it that felt off from the start. It was very hard to put my finger on what exactly it was, thus why I took two separate test drives on it in-between the others. Possibly it was due to it being "lower to the ground" then the XP 3.0 and also a feeling of the frame just not being as "tight" and "strong". Almost as if the bike was made of two separate halves. The XP 3.0 won out. It just felt the most comfortable overall and it was just as easy to mount, at least for me. Please keep in mind, I'm a total ebike novice and not exactly a spring chicken (56 years old). I only rode one for the first time a year ago (XP 2.0) and haven't ridden one since. Take anything I said above with a grain of salt, as I am not claiming to speak with any authority. The only downfall of the test drives is that the area was all totally flat. I couldn't test out the power of the 500 watt hub-motor on any substantial inclines like I would have to deal with living 30 minutes North of the Lectric facility. I'd love to test out another ebike brand with a 750 watt hub-motor, but having the ebike manufacture right "down the road" might provide a better overall value add! Thanks, Lectric!
Did the key position change on the 3.0 vs 2.0?
No. It is the same on both models.
How safe is it for the key to not fall off while riding?
Lectric is full of it. They claim their price dropped when it was never advertised as so and just came out today November 01, 2022. The 3.0 is the exact same 2.0 hub drive. Yes it PEAKS AT 1100, but that is not constant. The suspension seat is $69 for the 2.0 but not for the Lite, it is $99. And when you get a long range 2.0 the seat is not in option on there. I do not like being taking for a fool. The Lite should be $300 compared to the higher trims that have specials which is not really a special, because everything in this world has a high to extreme mark ups.
Not really sure what you're complaining about? They did upgrades and kept the price the same. They did not advertise a price cut.
Still? no rear suspension! Not that much of an upgrade.
Trying to maintain that $999 price point makes it hard to incorporate rear suspension.
We think the upgrades to the motor and drivetrain are quite the upgrades.
2.0 is a better bike
You say the battery is backwards-compatible with the XP and XP 2.0, but KevCentral says otherwise* -- that the battery on the 3.0 is *_not_* compatible with prior XP versions. Who's right?
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* th-cam.com/video/9RtG7o7bSmg/w-d-xo.html at the 12:14 mark
We reached out to Lectric to confirm. The batteries are backwards compatible. The issue, Lectric said the issue was all reviewers got pre-production models. And this issue was changed on production models.
Feel free to reach out to Lectric. They can confirm the backwards compatibility.
@@EbikeEscape Wow, that was a fast reply! 😃
That's good news for me, because I have an XP (1.0) and I'd like to upgrade to an XP 3.0, and it would be nice to be able to use the XP's old battery as a backup.
Thanks for the info! 👍😊
Update: I bought the 3.0, and the old battery from my 1.0 didn't fit. 😡 It looks like it is _supposed_ to, but due to what I perceive to be poor manufacturing tolerances, it was too tight and had to be forced hard to go all the way into the frame tube. At that point, it was in so tight that the only way to remove the old batt from the new bike was to pry it out with a screwdriver.
Worse, the locking pin on the 1.0 battery didn't line up with the corresponding hole in the 3.0 frame, so I couldn't unlock and power on the battery. So it was a literal non-starter.
So while it appears that the batteries from older XP generations are _supposed_ to be interchangeable, in fact they are not. Very disappointing.
Not that big of a difference in performance.
the slime is a terrible addition. it caused build up in my tube because it sat for so long between when they assembles it, and when they actually shipped me the bike. I had to have a bike shop get it sorted for me. maybe if the slime wasn't added by morons? who knows. but Lectic told me "its normal to have your rear tire wobble up and down while riding it" I have 2 other ebikes from a competitor, neither of those had a "normal" wobble in the rear tire. i would literally be bouncing up and down while riding the bike. LECTRIC SAID THIS WAS NORMAL
Is your rear tire seated all the way?
@@EbikeEscape yeah i checked that. the bike shop said the slime caused a section of the tube to almost double back on itself, causing like a ball to form, making the weight unbalance at a section of the tire. its all set now, luckily they did it free of charge. the fact that Lectric said a wheel wobble was a "normal" is insane to me
You need to learn to STOP up-talking at the end of each sentence Jees!
Agreed. After many commenters have brought this to my attention, I have been working on it.
Thanks for the constructive criticism.