I know the majority of people will buy this mostly to play shooters, but can I just say this controller is f***ing incredible for racing games. Steering feels more responsive but somehow less twitchy, and it has the most accurate triggers I've ever used for accelerating & breaking in racing games. You can even customise the trigger response in the pc software to suit yourself. 10 out of 10 👏
@@just_2swift So I have really only used Xbox One, Xbox Series X, PS4, PS5 controllers for pc. This controller blows those out of the water. The ONLY downside is it is not wireless. Aside from that I love it!
just ordered one, i really don't know why i should spend 100+ euros on a controller when this bad boy exists, hall effect sticks, triggers, gyro, mechanical face buttons, rgb, 1000hz polling rate, 2 back buttons that feel great, only triggerstops can make it better but spending 170 euros for a scuf or aim controller which does barely 50% of these things if any, is a ripoff.
I own one and love it. Just wishing they did not manufacture their cable input to prohibit longer USB c cables - the shape and depth make it really difficult if not impossible to find a suitable longer cable. I have the option of using this into my Samsung tv's USB port while playing on Game Pass and the 6-foot cable that they include is not long enough.
@@PughsReview Thanks for the reply. I just tried that and the controller doesn’t power on with a standard male to female USB extender. This is turning into a quest. Ha. I used a 15 foot extender fwiw.
For anyone that is following along, I have a (sort of clunky) solution. I purchased a labeled 3.0 USB extension male to female 10-foot length cable. The GameSir T4 Kaleid supplied cable directly into either USB port of the Samsung QN90B tv works perfectly. No issues at all. The issue is that the cable is only 5 feet long or so. Way too short for a 75-inch tv. A USB 3.0 extension cable directly into either USB port of the Samsung QN90B does not work in between the GameSir T4 Kaleid controller and the tv. The controller will not even turn on. I purchased a 4 port best Buy (Insignisa branded) powered USB 3.0 hub (it is not currently plugged in; it is using the power from the tv. I bought the powered version 'just in case') and connected the hub to the tv USB port and ran the USB 3.0 extension into that and connected the controller to the accepting end of the USB extension. That worked perfectly in both USB port of the tv. This is also the exact same case adding a USB extension to the PC with the GameSir T4 Kaleid. I would have preferred just the USB 3.0 extension into the tv, but you get what you get I suppose. I guess a side positive is that it is easier to connect USB devices to the tv now. PS: I am loving this controller.
I suspect the reason why only switch has been getting hall effect is cause the joycon drift problem is really well known at this point. Manufacturers are willing to spend the extra money on better sensors cause they can add it to their marketing for easy attention. I suspect non switch controllers will catch up to the trend in time, but really I think the industry is waiting to see how impactful Hall effect sticks are towards marketing before jumping on the bandwagon. We’re talking about it, but I don’t actually know that the mainstream has caught on to the existence of Hall effect quite yet.
So you say when they stop making them or they go obsolete. Got it. The only thing I wonder is if people keep buying them making the companys money will they ever go obsolete? But good thought on it tho.
Quick question. Can I use this controller on Call of duty? (PC)Will it have any connecting issues since it isn’t considered an Xbox/PlayStation controller?
Nice reviews, thank you it was useful, btw i am a bit worried about the build quality of the transparent plastic, is it sturdy or it's like cheap plastic? 'cause i was searching for a durable controller, but the plastic that might brake scares me off a bit tbh
Do you need to have the software running in order to have the 1000HZ polling rate? Or does it save to the controller once it’s set through the software?
@@Do4Love71 I actually ended up buying the controller not long after asking this question. I can confirm that you do not need to have the software running in order to have 1000HZ polling rate. You just set it/configure in the software and it’ll save directly to the controller, no need to run it in the background 👍
I'm not sure how to answer that lol they are clicky I love tactile buttons some people don't. It's all preference I assume. Nut they feel good to me. I will say the particular controller buttons are a little lose not tight around where the seat at. Dosent bother me but worth mentioning.
I have one myself, but i got a problem, i put it in XINPUT mode, it blinked green, but now the home button is ALWAYS green, i can't change it on software, even with leds off it stays green, do you know how to solve it?
I will say this I’ve owned this controller for over 6 months and I’ve owned all the pro controllers scuff battle beaver this beats them all price to Performanceu can’t get any better
I copped one of these but can’t seem to get the headphone jack to work. I’m on PC Windows 10. I tried different modes and was able to get it to work on PlayStation mode. It says it works with PC but not in “ Xinput” mode. Isn’t that the only mode that works with PC? I’m all confused. Anybody else get the headphone jack working with their PC? If so what mode? I’m playing games off Steam.
I will get this, I'm sure PowerA and Gamesir controllers are close and good for me to look into. I know Gamesir checked out that GuliKit Kingkong 2 pro and went with strong idea's. I have that controller as well but wish they made better software. I am having trouble trying to control the left stick using STEAM controller gyro software, it's is screwing up my left stick GuliKit Kingkong 2 pro calibration, It's making me unable to lean far enough on the racing game corners when I change my games from shooting games over to racing games. Steam Gyro controller software will not work unless you keep active Big picture mode. The Steam Gyro software is good when it comes to slowing down and can speed up the gyro to help make less or more controller movement if anyone wanted to know.
Does anyone know if it works with games from Microsoft store, specifically halo infinite? I am asking because the dualsense controller does not work with halo infinite if you have downloaded it from the microsoft store, it only works with steam. Also does it work in ds4windows?
No it doesnt work with ds4windows as of now. Its made for switch and pc. And as far as infinite get the gamesir g7 SE ( the white newer one) its going to be overclocked to 1000hz with a firmware update. And its made for the xbox and pc
🤣😅😂 I can't test that out then everyone would say I cheat even tho I don't own a crunos and my kd is like 1.4 tops 😂 the hackuzations would be there for sure 😂
@@PughsReview ill take it all back... now i can say its awesome.. now i can use on zen after latest update lol.. may gulikit can atleast rest from now on..
I know the majority of people will buy this mostly to play shooters, but can I just say this controller is f***ing incredible for racing games. Steering feels more responsive but somehow less twitchy, and it has the most accurate triggers I've ever used for accelerating & breaking in racing games. You can even customise the trigger response in the pc software to suit yourself. 10 out of 10 👏
tested on Forza Horizon and man i ride like a Schumacher on Road 66 :D
Well worth the money, way more features packed nto it then the over priced pro/elite controllers, just ordered the t4 Kalied
Absolutely 💯😀👏
Just ordered this for PC, super excited
Yea it's a good controller you should be happy
@@PughsReview I’m using a ps4 controller so I’m thinking it’ll be a huge upgrade. Great videos btw
@@KiwiMangoshow is it
@@just_2swift So I have really only used Xbox One, Xbox Series X, PS4, PS5 controllers for pc. This controller blows those out of the water. The ONLY downside is it is not wireless. Aside from that I love it!
Thanks man for this detailed presentation!! 😊
I order it before a moment and after that i saw your video.
Greetings from Greece!! 😉
Hey there, thanks for the comment . Welcome.
@@PughsReview welcome too Mr. Pugh. 😊
just ordered one, i really don't know why i should spend 100+ euros on a controller when this bad boy exists, hall effect sticks, triggers, gyro, mechanical face buttons, rgb, 1000hz polling rate, 2 back buttons that feel great, only triggerstops can make it better but spending 170 euros for a scuf or aim controller which does barely 50% of these things if any, is a ripoff.
Couldn't agree more 👍🙂
@@PughsReview btw i have 0.4% error at circularity test, i think your analogs are set to RAW input in the software
@@Superdazzu2what's raw input bro do I turn that off bc I want mine to feel just like a Xbox controller
@@Superdazzu2 what should i have them set on ?
Juar orderded. Another addition to my 10+ controlllers lol
Got a collection started lol
Hey i Have Xbox Version an oh my I love it p.s. You frorgot mentioning about Hall Effect on Trigers what these controllers have my and yours version
I own one and love it. Just wishing they did not manufacture their cable input to prohibit longer USB c cables - the shape and depth make it really difficult if not impossible to find a suitable longer cable. I have the option of using this into my Samsung tv's USB port while playing on Game Pass and the 6-foot cable that they include is not long enough.
Agree. You can get a usb type extended cable female to male then your be good.
@@PughsReview Thanks for the reply. I just tried that and the controller doesn’t power on with a standard male to female USB extender. This is turning into a quest. Ha. I used a 15 foot extender fwiw.
For anyone that is following along, I have a (sort of clunky) solution. I purchased a labeled 3.0 USB extension male to female 10-foot length cable.
The GameSir T4 Kaleid supplied cable directly into either USB port of the Samsung QN90B tv works perfectly. No issues at all. The issue is that the cable is only 5 feet long or so. Way too short for a 75-inch tv.
A USB 3.0 extension cable directly into either USB port of the Samsung QN90B does not work in between the GameSir T4 Kaleid controller and the tv. The controller will not even turn on.
I purchased a 4 port best Buy (Insignisa branded) powered USB 3.0 hub (it is not currently plugged in; it is using the power from the tv. I bought the powered version 'just in case') and connected the hub to the tv USB port and ran the USB 3.0 extension into that and connected the controller to the accepting end of the USB extension.
That worked perfectly in both USB port of the tv.
This is also the exact same case adding a USB extension to the PC with the GameSir T4 Kaleid.
I would have preferred just the USB 3.0 extension into the tv, but you get what you get I suppose.
I guess a side positive is that it is easier to connect USB devices to the tv now.
PS: I am loving this controller.
Wierd controller is a missunderstanding in 2024
I suspect the reason why only switch has been getting hall effect is cause the joycon drift problem is really well known at this point. Manufacturers are willing to spend the extra money on better sensors cause they can add it to their marketing for easy attention. I suspect non switch controllers will catch up to the trend in time, but really I think the industry is waiting to see how impactful Hall effect sticks are towards marketing before jumping on the bandwagon. We’re talking about it, but I don’t actually know that the mainstream has caught on to the existence of Hall effect quite yet.
That's a great thought I could see that for sure. 💯😎
There is already multiple other controllers that are not for the switch that have hall effect
Planned obsolescence is why they still use potentiometers.
So you say when they stop making them or they go obsolete. Got it. The only thing I wonder is if people keep buying them making the companys money will they ever go obsolete? But good thought on it tho.
@@PughsReview what's turbo mode I heard people get ban on cod if it's on how do i keep it off
@KSAP02 you will know if you have it on you have to activate it
@@PughsReview what's raw input bro do I turn that off bc I want mine to feel just like a Xbox controller
@@PughsReview thx for your time bro appreciate you have a good one you definitely earned a sub
Dude I might buy this one. Just started the video but it sounds pretty awesome
For the price it seems great
The only thing i will say is looking back the xyba are little jiggly not tight like the other controllers but it dosent bother me.
Quick question. Can I use this controller on Call of duty? (PC)Will it have any connecting issues since it isn’t considered an Xbox/PlayStation controller?
Using this Controller on pc for COD should be fine its marketed as a switch/pc Controller
nice review
I appreciate it. 🙂
what's better between kaleid or G7 SE ?
If it's for pc then kaleid
Nice reviews, thank you it was useful, btw i am a bit worried about the build quality of the transparent plastic, is it sturdy or it's like cheap plastic? 'cause i was searching for a durable controller, but the plastic that might brake scares me off a bit tbh
I didn't fill that way, but it's all in how many times you throw it 😂
@@PughsReview 😂true, well then i should be fine, i don't usually throw them. Thank you for the reply :)
No problem
Do you need to have the software running in order to have the 1000HZ polling rate? Or does it save to the controller once it’s set through the software?
Great wuestion, I wanna know this too
@@Do4Love71 I actually ended up buying the controller not long after asking this question. I can confirm that you do not need to have the software running in order to have 1000HZ polling rate. You just set it/configure in the software and it’ll save directly to the controller, no need to run it in the background 👍
Sorry I missed your original comment. It's good to know, though.
gamesir g7 se or t4 kaleid ? which one should I buy ?
That's a lot to un pack I have a video between the g7 and se already
Sir if something happens to the cable what can we do
It's just a usb c to type a. Anything that will fit in the port slot will work.
In circularity test, why the avg error was about 10%; however it is known that hall effect joy stick are about 0.5% avg error?
This could of been a me thing not having the sticks set right in the app.
they have 10% error in raw mode
@@PughsReview no because you have activated Raw Mode i tested this after disabling Raw Mode You have around 0.2% or 0.4% AVG ERROR
@PughsReview review the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro its kinda like a xbox elite controller with hall effect joysticks.
Maybe never heard of it. Thanks for the information.
Can you set the turbo function to a paddle?
Are the tacticle buttons for axyb soft compared to the membrane controller?
I'm not sure how to answer that lol they are clicky I love tactile buttons some people don't. It's all preference I assume. Nut they feel good to me. I will say the particular controller buttons are a little lose not tight around where the seat at. Dosent bother me but worth mentioning.
Can u over clock it at 1000hz
Does it work on Xbox?
No not this one
u can use an adapter
@@hislasthope5422 I'd rather not have to do that, there are several great options. The fusion pro 2 is my current weapon of choice.
Fusion 3 not 2 lol
The 2 sucks
I have one myself, but i got a problem, i put it in XINPUT mode, it blinked green, but now the home button is ALWAYS green, i can't change it on software, even with leds off it stays green, do you know how to solve it?
I am not sure, to be honest. When did you get it? Is it under warranty, like with Amazon is so get a new one.
Mine is like this too, i think that's just the way it is
@@siabee421 I fixed. just hold home button and the square button underneath it
Nice💪
@@lootador96 i tried this, it makes the controller not working. The light stays green on xinput no matter what
Can you please test Fortnite and gyro on Fortnite does it work
my update is at v1.26 is there anyway i can update it so i could overclock it
do a review again xD do they improve
I will say this I’ve owned this controller for over 6 months and I’ve owned all the pro controllers scuff battle beaver this beats them all price to Performanceu can’t get any better
💪💪💪
Sir please make a tutorial on how to install t4k software 😢😢
this or easysmx 9124 pro which one??
This
Good video
I try 🙂
Overstocked on them. That's why the lower end controllers and others are still using them.
💯
I copped one of these but can’t seem to get the headphone jack to work. I’m on PC Windows 10. I tried different modes and was able to get it to work on PlayStation mode. It says it works with PC but not in “ Xinput” mode. Isn’t that the only mode that works with PC? I’m all confused. Anybody else get the headphone jack working with their PC? If so what mode?
I’m playing games off Steam.
WHILE YOU HAVE 1000hz Pool Active then Headset is Deactivated
I will get this, I'm sure PowerA and Gamesir controllers are close and good for me to look into.
I know Gamesir checked out that GuliKit Kingkong 2 pro and went with strong idea's.
I have that controller as well but wish they made better software. I am having trouble trying to control the left stick using STEAM controller gyro software, it's is screwing up my left stick GuliKit Kingkong 2 pro calibration, It's making me unable to lean far enough on the racing game corners when I change my games from shooting games over to racing games.
Steam Gyro controller software will not work unless you keep active Big picture mode. The Steam Gyro software is good when it comes to slowing down and can speed up the gyro to help make less or more controller movement if anyone wanted to know.
Does anyone know if it works with games from Microsoft store, specifically halo infinite? I am asking because the dualsense controller does not work with halo infinite if you have downloaded it from the microsoft store, it only works with steam. Also does it work in ds4windows?
That is very weird first time hearing this issue
No it doesnt work with ds4windows as of now. Its made for switch and pc. And as far as infinite get the gamesir g7 SE ( the white newer one) its going to be overclocked to 1000hz with a firmware update. And its made for the xbox and pc
@@CookieMonster-we1in Thank you for the reply! I will probably get the G7 then!
@CookieMonster-we1in you are right I actually have that video dropping this weekend g7 comparison to the SE.
@@PughsReview just for that, ill watch and you just got a sub!!
useless cannot use with crunos zen hahahah gyro output on zen :)
🤣😅😂 I can't test that out then everyone would say I cheat even tho I don't own a crunos and my kd is like 1.4 tops 😂 the hackuzations would be there for sure 😂
@@PughsReview ill take it all back... now i can say its awesome.. now i can use on zen after latest update lol.. may gulikit can atleast rest from now on..
@spippy8522 😂🤣😂 what's your profile name so I can rage at you when I die too you 🤣😂
This again proves my opinion that most controllers are a scam when this is 40 dollars
Yea one issue is marketing to be able to use on xbox you have to pay that xbox tax since they are stingy.