In-Motion Starlink Speed Test & Obstruction Results for Flat High Performance Vs RV Standard Dishy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Here are our Early In-Motion Flat Dish Starlink Speed Test Results High Performance Vs Standard Dishy, on our boat after 3 weeks!
0:00 Intro
0:43 Performance Test Approach - Starlink RV Standard vs Starlink High Performance In-Motion
2:40 Performance Test Installation - Starlink RV Standard vs Starlink High Performance In-Motion
3:42 Speed Test Approach - Starlink RV Standard vs Starlink High Performance In-Motion
3:48 Visibility Test Results - Starlink RV Standard vs Starlink High Performance In-Motion
5:51 Speed Test Results - Starlink RV Standard vs Starlink High Performance In-Motion
7:24 WAN Bonding Results - Starlink RV Standard vs Starlink High Performance In-Motion
8:25 Using Two WAN Bonded Starlinks together
9:01 Elli-Yacht Starlink and Mobile Cellular Peplink Internet Installation
9:20 Starlink and Cellular Internet WAN Bonding Information at MobileMustHave.com/Elliyacht
We’ve had our High Performance In-Motion RV dishy up side by side with our Standard RV dish, running for 3 weeks and wanted to share some preliminary performance results. The goal is to provide real world observations for those that may be contemplating buying an RV standard or in-motion dish or upgrading from their current Standard RV dish.
In our Performance observations we will cover the installation, terrain type, and speed test configuration that we used to create a reasonable level of consistency between the two dishes.
Then we’ll cover the results from two areas we have found most relevant to performance that effecting our internet connection experience, on our boat. The first is the familiar upload and download speeds that most of us associate with performance and the second is visibility which impacts the number of drop outs that can be disruptive for highly sensitive application internet video conferencing applications and to a much lower degree, video streaming.
If you’re interested in learning more about the differences between the hardware used for both dishes or which might make the most sense for different boaters, we’ll provide a link above to a previous video you may find helpful for that.
Installation
We have both of these mounted 5 ‘ apart on our boat’s hard top with 8 degrees of inclination to the West. Both are using the standard Starlink Wi-Fi routers for consistency placed 10’ apart.
Terrain
We are in Roche Harbor, Washington state
Our slip has a treeline that obstructs the horizon by:
8 degrees to the North about 295 yards away,
19 degrees to the East about 145 yards away,
13 degrees to the South, and 165 yards away
2 degrees to the West about a mile away
We have our mast at 22 degrees due East 8’ from the dishes and 15 masts from other boats ranging from 12 to 36 degrees from 13 to 100 yards surrounding us predominately to the North and South.
speed test configuration
We are using Speedtest from Ookla and selected San Juan Cable as the Test servers for consistency in our results.
Test Results
Visibility
First we’ll look at the qualitative results for Visibility between the two Dishys. After 12 hours of letting both dishys collect data on Obstructions, The RV Standard 11”x20” dishy with its 100 degree visibility of the sky line showed three obstructions and a decent overall visibility to the skyline. As you might expect, the 20”x 22” RV High Performance In-Motion, showed and even wider 140 degree visibility to the skyline, that is twice the size of the standard RV dish. This resulted in no observable obstructions.
This resulted in quantitative results of over double the drop outs exceeding 2 seconds, when comparing the RV Standard dish to the RV High Performance in motion dish. While 7 drop outs on the standard RV dish isn’t terrible, These would noticeably disrupt a video conference call, especially those in the 15-19s range.
We look forward to getting the High Performance Dishy out to some tight anchorages that created drop outs on our Standard RV Dishy every 10 to 15 minutes in Desolation Sound, BC. If it is able to reduce dropouts by 70%, like the results we found here…
Speed Tests!
So do these greater visibility results and difference is hardware give better performance? The RV Standard dishy delivered performance on par with average unthrottled results at download of 64Mbps and upload of 4Mbps. As you
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You guys are awesome! Just came across your channel as we are entertaining the idea to get into the boat life. Is fun watching your videos. Thank you for sharing your amazing journey. Hope we can meet you guys in the near future
Brilliant video, providing very useful information for cruisers. Thanks you!
Glad it was helpful!
look forward to your review with the high performance Starlink in tighter more obstructed areas.
Great content! Very useful data and insight! Thanks!
Thank you for the encouragement!
I’m going to have to stop watching you new vids so I can start from the beginning 💜⚓️🌴
Great video, thank you!
Thanks for the encouragement!
Thanks greatly for this information!
My pleasure!
Thanks for making & sharing this video. I've got Starlink on my boat so this is really useful. I am curious about the high performance flat dish, but Dishy seems to be working just fine.
Before I got the Starlink I tried a 5G antenna and booster, but didn't see much improvement (I used the set up recommended by the Gone with the Wynns YTube channel). I used the small antenna that came in the box because the larger antenna and cable needed an adapter. (So maybe I didn't give it a good test.) Tip if you try this on a sailboat. I ran the antenna on the coaxial cable up the mast on one of the halyards. And then a little wind, a little spinny... and the cable fall off. The antenna wasn't heavy enough to pull down the halyard. I had to go up in the bosun's chair. So if anyone tries this set-up, tie a string to the halyard so you can haul it down again.(Also the way it lay, even if it weighed enough to drop, it was threaded through some rigging and a spreader. You could not do that if you tried, and it wouldn't have happened if I'd tied a string on it.) So I'm looking forward to your 5G video. Operating it is after all is free (use my iPhone as a hotspot). Otherwise I have to find someone who wants the hardware.
Thanks for the great description! If your 5g setup is a cell booster, what we’ll cover next is different. I’ve tried 5G cell boosters in the past and they are terrible for data. The reason is, they are a high gain single antenna. 5G really needs a 8 element Multiple In Multiple Out (MIMO) antenna to be effective. 6’ or shorter for the cable runs is necessary to minimize signal loss. On a sailboat, that’s almost impossible up a mast. Have a great week!
@@ElliYacht1 now THIS is great info, too.
thanks for this video, i have an rv flat mount dish and frequently have issues so this is helpful. How is the bad weather performance? my rv dish seems to struggle with any rain systems even when minor.
Great video! As always 😊. We are wanting to purchase starlink for this upcoming season and have watched all your vids…so helpful. We are heading to Desolation and Princess Louisa this summer. Would you recommend the standard RV dish or in motion? I know they made recent changes and it’s now called roam, not sure how/if that will impact either of these dishes. Love to hear your recommendation 👍🏻 thanks!
I’d go with the flat in motion dish. I’ll get a video out on the new plans.
Love your videos. I have a class A RV too and need to find something that I can use with both because I am super frugal. lol
I get you! The flat mount conversion for our standard Rv dish has a suction cup option. Maybe that would work on both the RV & boat?
I never thought about having 2 dishes and 2 services. I assume that means you double your throttled connection speed when there is congestion. Does it also improve your dropouts? Or do both generally drop out at the same time? When you suspend service, how does that work? Is it month by month, or can you turn on the redundant service for an evening when there is congestion and then turn it off later that day when you are done? Do you add the connection speeds together when they are not throttled? If so, are you getting 300MB +?
Thank you for the video! Did you have a chance to test the flat Standard Dishy at anchor in terms of connection drops caused by rolling/swinging vs the non-flat alternative?
We’re doing some refits and will report ASAP
Not yet, we have refits in progress and will report out ASSP
Great video as always. What model boat is the Elli Yacht?
It is a 2010 4800 Navigator
For a real "apples-apples" test I'd love to see the test with the RV dish pointing north as Starlink engineers intended. The HP dish is designed for flat mounting (larger size and much wider field of view) so it makes sense that it does better than a flat mounted RV dish.
The dish pointing North was engineered for stationary mounting, not a constantly moving platform like a boat.
That said, many people are fine with keeping the standard dish configured to constantly realign North and the associated +2 minute drop outs, while anchored out. That doesn’t fulfill our, or most boater’s requirements, IMHO.
Thank you for sharing, how did you mount your inmotion to your yacht?
Thank you for the feedback! We mounted it on our hardtop with the wedge mount that is included with the In-Motion dish. Instead of using their mounting hardware we used 316L self tapping screws that were predrilled. We used 3M 4000UV to seal the mounting screws.
Also, they provided a marine waterproof gland to pass the cable through.
Hope that helps!
@@ElliYacht1 amazing ! thank you so much for your time !
Hoping you can help me out with a question
I have a situation on my vessel where I would need to cut the cable for the high performance dishy I am hoping to purchase and mount
( the ends are too large for the only wire run avail )
Do you know if the high performance dishy cable
Is a similar high end cat 6 cable to the regular gen 2 dishy ?
Can it be cut and re attached ?
The Gen 3 dish flat dish is our pick right now. It uses standard cat6 cable that can be cut and spliced. It performs on par with the HO and is IP67. The Trio Mount is a batter option vs the aluminum wedge mount on the HP that will ultimately corrode in a marine environment. Oh, and it’s only $599.
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply !
Would love to pick your brain a bit about in motion
Does gen 3 work at speed ? Babe you done tests on that ?
I’m not sure if we can get gen 3 in Canada
We cruise extensively North Coast - Belle Bella and Prince Rupert
Hmmm....using a regular dishy in a very congested marina with a ton of surrounding masts. But hardly ANY dropouts of significance. Southern Florida.
Good info. Thanks for sharing
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So can you use two Starlink dishes with one Starlink RV service?
Unfortunately, no. They each are independent services. However, you can have an manage both services under one account.
8 degrees means no obstruction on water
In summary high performance dish is twice the price, twice the size, twice the speed and twice the power consumption.
4 x the price, 2 x size, 70% less dropouts, 30% faster and 2x power
1 yr ago, probably outdated by now
Starlink internet are not reliable yet unstable
In our experience it’s better than having no coverage. Peace!
Expensive. Hardware for $2500 sorry starlink . Stupid price