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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- **WARNING - SPOILERS FOR MAJOR EVENTS OF THE WALKING DEAD: TELLTALE SERIES ARE IN THIS VIDEO. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO AVOID THEM PLEASE SKIP 4:44 - 5:21 **
Today I take you through all the information presented to us on how to prevent infection after being bit by a walker in The Walking Dead Universe.
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0:00 - Intro
0:32 - How the Virus Spreads
3:44 - Amputation
5:43 - Radiation Therapy
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CORRECTION - Bob Stookey was bit on the shoulder, not the leg.
Disqualifying him from the list of those who passed despite amputation.
Rate of infection is determined by whether or not the bitten person needs to have an emotional, heartfelt goodbye with someone
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Then how come Ophelia died just before being able to say goodbye to Daniel Salazar
You can also argue that Lee Everett died from blood loss. He cut his arm off then proceeded to try to find Clementine a few hours after cutting his arm off.
Yeah that’s a good point actually. I never considered that.
I always assumed that he died from blood loss. I just assume that most people who get an amputation and die afterwards die from either an infection or blood loss more so than the actual sickness. Amputating correctly is kinda hard to do in a post apocalypse, I feel like, and nobody sterilizes...anything before or after the amputation and we only see a blood transfusion when Carl got shot (unless it's in later seasons, I never watched those ones.) Also, everybody seems to always be starving which isn't exactly great when you get a leg lopped off. So, I think much more of the deaths are a result of the amputation area getting infected or just blood loss tbh
Fear twd writers got so stupid past like S4 its literally bad that its cannon
I think it got bad after Terminus. Don't get me wrong. The Negan arc had some cool stuff, but....
@@pkshowsupnoobsallday they’re talking about Fear
@@lukedoran1615
both dropped fast after S4 ngl, just a cat and mouse game between irrelevant factions
@@_Circus_Clapped_ At least twd still got some of the best episodes, fear went to trash all the way through
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TWD has them spread so far apart that I just dropped it entirely by S7
I believe Alicia survived due to the amputation. I think the show was trying to convey that she was making herself suffer because she felt she failed to keep her people safe. When she finally faced her younger self, she then began to see she had not failed and therefore stopped suffering.
That’s a valid theory.
I still feel it’s appropriate to include however, as June’s theory’s we’re based on her observation of Alicia, which radiation turned out to actually suppress the infection
She definitely amputated in time.
Don't forget she received military grade antibiotics and her fever broke, I think that the virus was held at bay long enough for the body to get a grip and fight back. Our bodies are capable of fighting off almost any infection or virus at all. It's whether the body can react in time before enough damage is done or if the virus can suppress the immune system for long enough to do what it needs to do. The body takes about 3 days to start producing antibodies for a virus once it detectes it and if it kills on 2 days normally, that would explain why no one can survive
@@Idk-lg9thAs far as I know, even military grade antibiotics wouldn't work on viruses because of their method of effect
I think she was sick from rusty metal
I think Alicia survived the amputation not because of radiation, but because her body was fighting off a tetanus infection after she amputated with a rusty and somewhat dull blade. Writers were trying to throw us off that she was fighting Wildfire
Can’t believe that Peter griffin is in the dna of all walkers
No way...
Video idea: Every active community in TWDU and their history
Technically Gabriel Stokes from the main show would also be a survivor of the virus even though it was exposure induced over direct transmission
Great call.
I hadn’t actually consider that but now that I’m thinking about it, the same season shows gut infected weapons will kill by getting it into your bloodstream.
So that’s pretty interesting he got to keep the eye.
@@Swell-Films precisely what I was thinking too
@@Swell-Films I just think of that as one of the exploits in the science of the infection, that doesn't make any sense.
People explain why a bite kills and not blood and guts exposure, due to a high amount of bacteria in the mouth and teeth, due to the biter germs being a corpse. Yet Negan put belt to azz with the infected weapons.
The bite fatality is supposed to be due to the high infection and bacteria in a corpse. Yet a freshly dead Walker that turned half a minute after death, will still give a fatal infection biting someone.
Padre was such a letdown
I'm surprised you missed Daryl being infected in DD Ep 1 then being treated and not turning after being burned by the burner, the nun disinfects the wound and he's just fine
Good call I did miss that one
I'd stand to argue that's because the acidic reaction would have killed any bacteria that would have allowed for the virus to spread.
He wasn’t infected though, he was just (essentially) hit with an acid attack
@@SJKNOL watch it again the nun says explicitly that he got infected
@@wittierspade7600Yeahhhh they were more farther in research there and probably knew some stuff better. Like how to make it NOT spread.
If you want to count more people who survived bites from walkers by amputation in the comics/games are Abel, Reggie, Connie, and Dale. I could be forgetting people but those are the people on the top of my head. The virus itself is intriguing since the bite doesn't kill you right away. And I'm glad that you mentioned Clementine since you keep it mostly based on the tv show universe. Fear the walking dead is in its own universe at this point😂😭 but im looking forward to more videos!
Bob was bitten on the shoulder, don't know how cannibals cutting his leg off would help
They didn’t cut off his leg to stop the virus. They cut his leg to eat a part of him and then he revealed he was bitten On his shoulder. They didn’t cut off his leg after bob revealed his bite.
Cooking it actually would help though. Almost no disease can survive intense heat enough to burn and char flesh, so it does make sense. I doubt you could eat a walker but you could probably eat an infected person in their early to intermediate stages of infection.
A new thing I thought of by the mentioning of radiation treatment working for a while would be that some form of chemotherapy could stop the infection progression.
Chemotherapy is useful for the same reason it's dangerous. Intense radiation kills everything it contacts, like a bomb rather than a scalpel. Theoretically if you applied chemotherapy to the affected area nearly-immediately following infection, you could probably keep the limb. I don't see why it wouldn't, honestly. Maybe it'd have to be an extra-crazy amount of radiation, but you'd be able to keep more of the limb that way, even if it's damaged.
Alejandro Nuñez, in one of the first seasons of Fear when they were in mexico he supposedly received a bite to the shoulder and somehow survived untill being bitten a second time later on and dying from that one.
EDIT: if you google his name theres a wiki article on him so i would check that out
Alejandro admits to lying about being bit by a walker at the end of season 2, he admits he was bit by a panicked living boy and faked it to instill hope in his people
@@Swell-Films ah ok sorry then it's. been a long time since I watched it so yeah didn't remember that part
@@Idk-lg9th all good! I enjoy the discussion regardless
@@Swell-Films haha yeah not often you find someone to chat about who knows a decent amount about the shows lore, most people ik stopped watching after season 8 of the main series
Amazing work, your channel is truly a gold mine. Keep it up!
Fear was a masterpiece for the first 3 seasons, it got so bad after season 4 remember the dirty lady as the villain second half of season 4? I haven't even finished season 8 because it's so bad. I'm even on a rewatch now currently on season 2 and will stop after 3.
i agree, i'm struggling to watch season 7 right now, it's so bad i almost fall asleep lol.
@@shadowking4736 season 7 is diabolically bad and 8 is even worse.
@@jamesandmikey32 don't tell me that......
I decided to give another chance and am halfway through a very tough s6....
@@Steven-le5oc it gets worse.
I love Fear but season 7 was unwatchable, however I actually enjoyed 8. I think it had better pacing.
Good idea for a video. Keep at it man you will get 100k in no time
I wish I knew about your channel earlier, good stuff man.
Randomly came across your vids and I like what your doing keep at it man! Subbed!
Great Lore Video on the Wildlife Virus. I hope we get more world building surrounding the Wildfire virus especially when we dive more into the CRM storyline. I believe there’s plenty of more potential TWD Lore world building with the CRM storyline. The CRM is by far the best villainous story within the TWDU especially when it comes to the scientific experiments.
I just saw the community post so I thought it’ll be later on today not rn lol
But still cool and love the breakdowns
This is Fabulous 🙌💎
Three videos in and hitting subscribe. Awesome well put together videos.
Ty I love the videos so far, I have to say I don’t think Alicia didn’t fight the bite infection I think she almost died due to infection from cutting her arm off with rusty pipe or whatever it was,
In The Oath, Dr. Marcones states that it’s possible to survive the infection, but rare.
Ur videos are good bro
Bob was bit In the shoulder. Not an amputatable spot. His leg was cut for food
I believe more in the theory that the bite contains a form of bacteria that kills the host which in turn causes reanimation, I think it was in a Film Theorist video
So how do the people that die without a bite still turn?
Right..they say due to it being dead and the heavy concentration of bacteria in their mouth. Yet a freshly dead Walker that turned a minute after death, has the same fatal bite a current-time Walker from 2010 has.
Please do the strain from fx.
So what you’re saying is that with radiation Sophia, Jim, T-Dog, Tyreese, and so many others could have been saved? It could have cured them of the infection?
Theoretically, yes. Given enough research, trial and error.
Although this discovery isn’t made until atleast 5 years into the outbreak, so those characters specifically were goners regardless
Infection kills you, I assume the best way to approach this disease is to think that this is some type of parasite that makes the host obey and act according to the parasite’s will.
We saw many times that when walkers pass a long time with no eating, they tend to accommodate themselves in shelter waiting for its next prey to arrive. That could probably explain that its functions and instincts are still present, not like a human being, more like an animal.
Although never mentioned or shown in the screen, I do believe walkers may digest their food normally and even have their physiological needs just like a living being, because they are “living beings”.
We see that they follow patterns, hordes, some of them may even be evolved to the point to hunt food and leave it for the rest of the group, which shows us that they’re more like a different “homo something” than dead corpses walking earth.
As for the cure, I do believe that some time in the future the series will show us that some type of vaccine is possible. Now, in order for them to return to their “homo sapiens” state, I highly think it’s impossible, maybe recent deceased human beings that turned into walkers have some kind of possibility, but long term walkers may not be able to recover their full brain activities. Now, I do believe that there must be a way to reeducate them, maybe teaching them some stuff, maybe like a dog or something, even though this will probably never be shown or approached by Walking Dead directors.
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While I can’t say I agree with the possibility of re-educating walkers, with the introduction of variants, exploring the more “alive” side of walkers could be very interesting.
@@Swell-Films bro is way off. He’s thinking more Last of us. TWD is zombies, mindless corpses that have no functioning organs. Their lungs heart even digestion systems don’t work anymore. That’s y they can still function underwater, they don’t breathe. I wouldn’t say they eat either. it’s more like they consume.
4:28 Well, Bob couldn't really be saved through amputation since he was bit in the shoulder. The reason he was amputated was because the Terminus people wanted to cook and eat his leg, not for the intention of saving him, especially since they were unaware of the fact that Bob was infected/bit.
I think a character arc of the best villain of FTWD Troy Otto would be a good one.
I think that in Alicia Clark’s case there were other factors. She amputated her lower arm in time before full blown infection. She may have had a more natural resistance to the virus as we know some people can shrug it off. Limited exposure to radiation may have also helped with slowing down and eventually purging the infection. Perfect trifecta.
Didn’t fear also have radioactive zombies that were so full of radiation that you couldn’t go near them without getting a lethal dose
Was a noticeable amount of time from when Clementine was bit to the leg being cut off so I wonder does she actually have a natural immunity
I think it has something to do with clem getting bitten on her foot that was slashed by the axe so the bacteria was probably just unable to get a hold due to the gaping wound bleeding a lot
I suspect the Echelon Briefing in the Ones Who Live is cure/survival related.
Something from episode 4 stood out to me.
When Rick was laid up with Michonne, he spoke of how he noticed the Walkers around that building, were all unusually skinny.
Michonne theorized that they starved..but it seemed Rick wrote off that theory citing how well and long they had amenities and such there.
Then that was it for that subject.
So, why would they mention the Walkers being unusually skinny?
I feel it had to have been pondered upon to the audience, for a reason.
In one apartment of that building, there was the Immunology report, by Leopard Bennett, the scientist working on a solution to the virus from World Beyond.
There was the lab, with the scientist's letter before her death, about how she/they, tried, in regard to opposing the virus.
Several of the Walkers/Delts Rick and Michonne encountered, looked to have on lab/scientist clothing.
I think the skinny Walkers were a hint toward something in opposition to the virus.
The exact connection, I don't know.
They still were in fact, Walkers.
But perhaps them being skinny, was due to something that at least brought them closer to a cure.
lol
@@33m3c well..the plan was to cure everybody's a*s of their mortal coil. Lol.
Why is the virus cell Look like peter Griffin 😂
I did notice that too💀
Correct me if I’m wrong bc at this point I don’t remember too well. But Alicia survived not only bc of the radiation but bc even tho she didn’t fully amputate it was in a sense cut off since we saw her arm decay. I still think it’s lazy writing but maybe there’s more there
If only survivors wore heavy layors or homemade armour to prevent scratches and bites instead of well, walking around in light shirts and tank tops
Seriously. Michonnes armour was exactly what they all should be wearing
Damn right. It doesn't even need to be full body armor, since we know in can become too heavy, hot and restrictive. Just your arms would be enough for the most part, since they're the most likely to get bitten while fighting. Like dog trainers.
Elton from World Beyond is the most frustrating example.
He had that bite resistant jacket that he stopped wearing as some sign of his growing up, like shedding a security blanket.
Then like two episodes later loses his arm to a walker bite.
These fucking writers, man.
Espero que Alicia volte futuramente no universo e que sua trama com a infecção seja importante pro universo. Eles não podem abandonar algo tão importante assim. Imaginem a quantidade de testes que cientistas poderiam fazer com o sangue de alicia...
What happens if you damage a walkers nose? Do they not attack?
Mannn, can we please act as if Fear seasons 4-8 never happened. Wait we can’t now since the radioactive bombshells went off 🤣😂 Great job.
My thoughts exactly mate 😂
why did you not mention craterisation from Daryl Dixon?
i thought bob was bitten on the shoulder? in that case amputation wouldn't be possible (i know the termites cut his leg off)
Colorize the wound? Sounds pretty medeval but a blow torch if used on a bite for the first couple seconds might work?
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I always wondered if that would work if it was immediate
I have those symptoms regardless lol
I wonder why no one theorized high radiation a long while back since radiation does kill a lot of things
i think rick is the only guy who cut his limb without any real danger to his life.. just wasted moment for him, daryl brother(MErL) did cut of his hand in the first season but he was like real stuck. not able to accept the fact tht such a big character lost his limb for almost nothing.. it may add more twist to the story but in that moment it didnt hit me that much
What about someone like TV Judith Grimes ? Or other children conceived or birthed in the genertion after the outbreak? And what about animals , birds, or bugs ? If the virus is airborne ? Do they survive or become carriers of the infection?
In season 10 episode 15 (or 14 I can’t remember) Ezekials horse is bit and dies from the infection, but there’s no evidence anywhere in twd universe that anything besides a human reanimates. So animals most likely do carry it, but don’t turn.
As for children born after the outbreak, they definitely still are carriers and will die from a bite just as an adult will, evident from finch dying from the infection in fear season 8
@@Swell-Films very good , I tried to get into Fear, and the teenager walking dead aka the world beyond. Just couldn't do it. However your back story cliff notes help me in the new show. The ones who live.
What about Windex, Deep Woods off , Citronella, Listerine ,or Lysol ? Just kidding y'all .☣️😀
the writers said she is immune on Instagram
What about Meryl Dixon? He survived amputation
Correct, not a result from a bite however.
Oh yeah! Your right
I like your content! 👍
w for including Lee :(
Means Madison might be immune as well.
Didn’t bob get bit on the shoulder?
Wasnt Bob bit on the shoulder/ upper chest?
He was yes my mistake
@@Swell-Films still a great vid, man. You do great work 👍🏽
Radiation probably works but likely not the reason here. The bite just kills you because of the nasty infection it gives someone. Radiation may reduce viral loads but not totally eliminate the virus similar to antiviral drugs and HIV/AIDs. Virus is still in you but reduced to level where you aren’t sick.
and radiation would only work before the virus reaches the brain as that’s where the virus thrives the most
Great vid but I have a question. Do you think antibiotics will cure the wildfire infection bite?
From what we are presented in the show, no. If it were that simple I believe it would’ve been addressed by dr. Jenner in season 1
A genetic immunity isn't all that silly, although I get why it sounds that way. There are a lot of populations in history that have survived devastating plague and disease because of some inherent immunity. For wildfire though, honestly, this is a tad far fetched. Jenner compares wildfire to meningitis, and while there are cases of complete immunity to meningitis, I feel like wildfire is on another level of aggression with progression than meningitis if you die in 1-3 days.
Meningoccocus can kill you in less then 48 hours since infection, fever, joint pain, chills, fear of light, headache, diarhea, intestinal bleeding, bleeding into skin, Blood clotting in veins, necrosis, brain bleeding and death, all within 48 hours, its also airborne
Morgan also didn't die... wasn't he bitten??
I just need the early phase of an outbreak not the Mad Max style post apocalyptic turf warfs.
5:57 SHE CURED HERSELF?
do newborn babies carry the dorment infection?
As far as we know, yes. We see Dwight and sherrys son die from infection and he was born post outbreak
But we never saw him turn@@Swell-Films
Are there any people in the walking dead universe that never actually got the inactive infection?
I have not read the comics completely.But I don't think lee everett and clementine I know clementime has her own series of comic books but they're part of the tailtail tail universe
Telltale universe is the same as the comic universe.
The game series features multiple characters that resemble their comic counterparts throughout the series (Glenn, hershel, Jesus, etc)
@@Swell-Films see I didn't know that
@@whatislifegaming yeah it’s pretty interesting actually, season 1 features Hershel’s farm briefly and it’s the same design and layout seen in the comics.
bro forgot merle 4:25
Merle was not infected, he amputated to escape the handcuffs
How do they smell if they don't breath??? That's the only thing that bothers me about the show.
Yeah technically they shouldn’t even be able to make the sounds they make, sometimes you gotta suspend your disbelief with this franchise.
I really don’t understand how fictional reanimated WALKING corpses aren’t functioning like in real life. Bothers me as well
wildfire virus is so girlypop😗✨
Love ur vids but you really put a comic spoiler warning even though the comics are hella old lmaoo
It’s for the telltale series, I haven’t covered anything outside the show universe, so I figured I’d put it there incase someone is a show only fan, but is still interested
Bob wasnt amputated to prevent the spread that was just the terminus people so i wouldnt count him as a failed attempt to save someone via amputation
Sorry, but I still don't believe scratches are canon. Literally makes no sense.
bro spoiled world beyond for me
Holy crap, FTWD sucks so much after season 3.