It's funny that you can usually find a blend that mixed together sounds like the tones you want, even though when soloed they don't sound at all like what you like.
I love love love Mike Starrs basslines they’re absolutely wicked. Simple but fucking genius!! I wish I could create shit like that. I use notes that sound way too happy
This is potentially the most useful video for me as a bass player. It would be nice for my basslines to come out sounding like metal. Usually they sound like crap. I think its called crapcore? Appreciate the advice sir! You're the best.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm having my first experience recording original songs with a band and this kind of breakdown of the creative process is exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks Rodney. I'm very much a noob bass player and this was really interesting to get my thought train going. This will be one I save and come back to as I develop.
I’m curious how one might try to write songs having only the bass to work with, where the rest of the instruments aren’t there? Sometimes I get cool riff ideas on my bass, but it’s hard to picture in my mind what the rest of the instruments are supposed to be doing, which would inform the bass to begin with?
That situation is what I like so much about being in a band. One member comes up with an idea and shows it to the others. Usually one or more have immediately some ideas and then you'll continue writing until the song is finished. At least that's my experience as being a bassist in a rock band and also in the thrash metal band I'm in right now.
Great video and insight into the creative process. Also , your cover of bad omen is awesome! You make it look easy to what is anything but of a bassline that demands precise and clean right hand work. It's my go to piece as we are working on it for a cover, thanks dude!
I thought about it, but it was going to extend an already long video. When the project is finished, i'll be doing some playthough videos so you can see it uninterrupted. Glad you enjoyed it.
LOVED this breakdown, I would be definitely happy to see more of this, whenever you feel like (maybe covering different styles? Like, it would be cool to see different approaches to different situations! ) Super interesting
just joined a ska/punk band and get to have busy basslines but i also am trying to find a balance to not get in the way of other instruments or vocals even.
Good job!!! Sounds goods think i would approached that kinda the same. I’m a slapper, i no u kinda hate slapping…lol so i playing with my octaves in hitting cords often to make thing massive when i can but I’m a nobody anyway so who cares what i think… glad your making content again always love your stuff….when will u be play ma.
Everybody is a nobody to somebody! Your thoughts are relevant as an artist. as I mentioned in the video, in my own projects I would do things a bit different, but i also write to accommodate that kind of thing. if I would have tapped over these parts or played counter harmony, it would wreck the band's vision. Thanks for the good word on the channel.
This song sounds killer remind us when it drops please 🤘 edit: see you will let us know. Those really fast lines was that three finger? I’m asking bc it sounded as steady as groupings of 4 with a pick
As important as it is to "serve the song", it is FAR more important to know yourself. I stopped playing bass for metal projects because I know what I want from music, and riding the root is not it.
So I'm in a bit of a pickle. I work with these guys that live about an hour away so we don't get a lot of practice time so what we do get is pretty precious. I'm the least experienced dude in the band by far, and for some reason the drummer moved to guitarist and knows how to play all these songs but is fuzzy on the notes and chords he's playing. They have all the drums and guitar parts tracked so I can practice this stuff on my own but I'm having a bear of a time figuring out what chords are being played at what moment which makes it impossible for me to know the root. Sometimes I'll show up to practice and the drummer who has a better ear for notes than any one in the group will call me out for being a half step off. Are there any tricks or software I can use which can help me figure out what these dudes are playing, or should I be sitting there for an hour and a half every practice session asking these dudes to walk me through the melodies? I'm worried I may just have to give up on music altogether because I just lack the musical ear, sadly.
Getting started with ear training can be tough, especially under pressure. I would recommend getting the guitar player to video himself doing the song. That way you can watch it at home and check your notes against his. You can then also take some time to look at the chords, find out what key / scale they indicate, and write your bass parts from there.
@@2scrimble9 Yeah, if you write riffs long enough, you're bound to step on someone's toes! Thanks for the good word, I appreciate you checking out the channel.
Sorry about that. Send me your PayPal address and I'll refund your money. And just a thought, maybe having the attention span of a ferret after a double espresso isn't serving you very well.
@@RodneyMcG Sorry. I didn't know you were so oversensitive. I was at the end of a long and busy day, but at least I didn't insult you. Other TH-camrs keep me for a lot longer than you did. You're thorough, which is good, but irrelevant detail is bad. You talk of not going too busy with fills and keeping the basslines relevant to the songs. Take the same thinking into your scripts. Would you do six-minute bass intro, before the rest of the band comes in? I don't reckon you would.
Thanks for reminding me that its ok if my favorite bass tone doesnt fit with my favorite guitar tone...deciding a compromise that blends..
It's funny that you can usually find a blend that mixed together sounds like the tones you want, even though when soloed they don't sound at all like what you like.
The sound of your bass all throughout the song is incredible. Thank you for the play by play lesson!
Talley is a beast! Fuxking guy fills in for so many bands!
#fact
I love watching stuff like this to get ideas for writing bass
I love love love Mike Starrs basslines they’re absolutely wicked. Simple but fucking genius!! I wish I could create shit like that. I use notes that sound way too happy
Simple fix. Concentrate on the common minor notes. Use minor 3rd a lot, flat5, minor second, major second. Almost all of it is in there. Good luck!
Cool song. Nice addition to the track on bass.
This is potentially the most useful video for me as a bass player. It would be nice for my basslines to come out sounding like metal. Usually they sound like crap. I think its called crapcore? Appreciate the advice sir! You're the best.
More stuff in this vein coming. Hope it helps
This song rules 🤘
Thank you so much for this video. I'm having my first experience recording original songs with a band and this kind of breakdown of the creative process is exactly what I was looking for.
Glad I could help!
Sounds great cool to hear a little different tone from the master as well. Good work!
Glad you think so!
Thanks Rodney. I'm very much a noob bass player and this was really interesting to get my thought train going. This will be one I save and come back to as I develop.
Hope it comes in handy
Rodney awesome advise brother!
Caught myself saying “So Sit right There” when u said “So You have to take a minute”
I’m curious how one might try to write songs having only the bass to work with, where the rest of the instruments aren’t there? Sometimes I get cool riff ideas on my bass, but it’s hard to picture in my mind what the rest of the instruments are supposed to be doing, which would inform the bass to begin with?
That situation is what I like so much about being in a band. One member comes up with an idea and shows it to the others. Usually one or more have immediately some ideas and then you'll continue writing until the song is finished.
At least that's my experience as being a bassist in a rock band and also in the thrash metal band I'm in right now.
Now that's something! Love this video, a lot of cool stuff and good tips. Can't wait to try them on my upcoming recording sessions!
Hope it gives you some new ideas
Very insightful, Rodney. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video. Brutal bass lines.
I’m glad I found this channel. Looking forward to seeing many more
Welcome aboard!
This video was awesome Rodney. Re-writing all my recent basslines now!
I hope it serves you well!
Great video and insight into the creative process. Also , your cover of bad omen is awesome! You make it look easy to what is anything but of a bassline that demands precise and clean right hand work. It's my go to piece as we are working on it for a cover, thanks dude!
I really appreciate that! post a link when you finish the song 🤘
Excellent video, very helpful, thank you!
Very informative, thanks! Would be also awesome to see the actual bass playing.
I thought about it, but it was going to extend an already long video. When the project is finished, i'll be doing some playthough videos so you can see it uninterrupted. Glad you enjoyed it.
@@RodneyMcG superb, thanks!
LOVED this breakdown, I would be definitely happy to see more of this, whenever you feel like (maybe covering different styles? Like, it would be cool to see different approaches to different situations! ) Super interesting
Really glad you enjoyed it, I'll be doing another one in the near future
Nice!!! @@RodneyMcG
just joined a ska/punk band and get to have busy basslines but i also am trying to find a balance to not get in the way of other instruments or vocals even.
thanks for the video!
My pleasure!
Wow, this is a great video! I've been thinking about this kind of thing lately, so it is timely too. Love how fat the tone is on this!
Glad you got something from it
Damn this is a helpful video! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good job!!! Sounds goods think i would approached that kinda the same. I’m a slapper, i no u kinda hate slapping…lol so i playing with my octaves in hitting cords often to make thing massive when i can but I’m a nobody anyway so who cares what i think… glad your making content again always love your stuff….when will u be play ma.
Everybody is a nobody to somebody! Your thoughts are relevant as an artist. as I mentioned in the video, in my own projects I would do things a bit different, but i also write to accommodate that kind of thing. if I would have tapped over these parts or played counter harmony, it would wreck the band's vision. Thanks for the good word on the channel.
Nice
Thanks
Definitely educational, inspiring and BADASS!!
Thanks, Jay!
Amazing really good stuff
Grandi
Great video, I really enjoyed it. Learned some stuff too. 🤘
Glad to hear it!
Noob question here, what does Rodney mean when he says "tag"?
Can you tell me how i used the word? (context) and i'm happy to explain.
Great video and demonstrations! Best way to learn some new and old tricks to get better results
You can take the essential / accented notes and just play those, effectively playing half time underneath the riff
Awesome video.. Hey. How you keep looking younger?
I don't know. Maybe it's what happens when you move out of Los Angeles, and you stop having your soul sucked out!😂😂
Awesome video and shirt!
"Meteor shit" - award winning author, Stephen King.
This song sounds killer remind us when it drops please 🤘 edit: see you will let us know. Those really fast lines was that three finger? I’m asking bc it sounded as steady as groupings of 4 with a pick
All fingers. 🤘
As important as it is to "serve the song", it is FAR more important to know yourself.
I stopped playing bass for metal projects because I know what I want from music, and riding the root is not it.
So I'm in a bit of a pickle. I work with these guys that live about an hour away so we don't get a lot of practice time so what we do get is pretty precious. I'm the least experienced dude in the band by far, and for some reason the drummer moved to guitarist and knows how to play all these songs but is fuzzy on the notes and chords he's playing. They have all the drums and guitar parts tracked so I can practice this stuff on my own but I'm having a bear of a time figuring out what chords are being played at what moment which makes it impossible for me to know the root. Sometimes I'll show up to practice and the drummer who has a better ear for notes than any one in the group will call me out for being a half step off.
Are there any tricks or software I can use which can help me figure out what these dudes are playing, or should I be sitting there for an hour and a half every practice session asking these dudes to walk me through the melodies?
I'm worried I may just have to give up on music altogether because I just lack the musical ear, sadly.
Getting started with ear training can be tough, especially under pressure. I would recommend getting the guitar player to video himself doing the song. That way you can watch it at home and check your notes against his. You can then also take some time to look at the chords, find out what key / scale they indicate, and write your bass parts from there.
Thanks, man!
That has to be a fucking nightmare
Had to comment because the second riff is literally stolen from Job for a Cowboys first EP, but nice video overall.
To "literally" steal something, you have to have heard the riff at least once. Never listened to job for a cowboy. I'm sure it's similar.
@@RodneyMcG its almost exactly the same, maybe in different tuning but the rhythm and intervals are the same, nonetheless cool videos dude!
@@2scrimble9 Yeah, if you write riffs long enough, you're bound to step on someone's toes! Thanks for the good word, I appreciate you checking out the channel.
Bro thank you so much for leaving that mispronounced name in
Don’t be a rockstar
too much talk
It's how information is transferred. The fact that it annoys you says a lot
I lost all interest by 6.30. Get to the point quicker.
Sorry about that. Send me your PayPal address and I'll refund your money. And just a thought, maybe having the attention span of a ferret after a double espresso isn't serving you very well.
@@RodneyMcG Sorry. I didn't know you were so oversensitive. I was at the end of a long and busy day, but at least I didn't insult you. Other TH-camrs keep me for a lot longer than you did. You're thorough, which is good, but irrelevant detail is bad. You talk of not going too busy with fills and keeping the basslines relevant to the songs. Take the same thinking into your scripts. Would you do six-minute bass intro, before the rest of the band comes in? I don't reckon you would.