EDIT: Apologies for getting mislead and mixed up in my research of the demise of GTW 5629. I eventually learned the truth from History In The Dark’s video of 5629 the day it released and have since then blamed Jenson for the death of 5629 and reconciled with Metra. I made this edit to my comment and description because I was recently cyberbullied about this mistake by a Colorado railfan(who did apologize for it) and am taking drastic measures to make my change of thoughts more announced so avoid more risks of my past self being cyberbullied. See my corrected version: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html I know that my voice complaining may get annoying, I was still figuring out the best place to position my microphone to best tolerate how my voice sounded to me. I’m still working on tolerating my voice
Considering the nearly identical stories and fates that would befell both Grand Trunk Western 5629 and CB&Q 5632, isn't it almost symbolic and slightly unsettling that both have surviving siblings that happen to share each others numbers?
Yeah. That story only got more unsettling when a two part article titled “A Passion For Steam” exposed the shocking truth of how just how much responsibility Jensen had for the loss of GTW 5629, and impact of 5632’s loss on his thought process when 5629 was put in the same danger. That article later became the Basis of History In The Dark’s 5629 video, which I learned the truth from.
When the two mountains line boxcabs retired, 6712 was donated to the town of mont-royal for preservation, but sadly they never succeded in finding her a home, she was scrapped in 2012-2013.
The story to that only got sadder to the internet when a two part article named “A passion for steam” revealed that it was actually Jenson’s fault that it happened, not Metra’s, and that they tried everything they could to get legal authorization to just donate it, in 2021. History In the Dark later based his research for his 5629 video on the content of that article, resulting in him possibly being the first TH-camr to expose Jenson’s idiocy to the platform in late 2022(then reuploaded in January 2023 due to copyright). It was from that video I learned the real truth, on the day it premiered. Since then, I’ve resented myself for screwing up the 5629 segment in this video so badly. So much I even took 48 hours out of my life to make this: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
The GT 5030 for what I heard has been moved out of Jackson, MI not long ago I believe and is now heading to PA. Think they will restore or repair the locomotive from the damage of the elements and people destroying the inside. I have a video that's pretty old that showed the state the Locomotive was in back around 2011 on my channel. If ya ever like to use footage of the Locomotive your more then welcome to use it :) . Great video.
5030 is as of today, still there. From what I heard they may try to steam it up as despite the outward condition, it's what's on the inside that counts. Seems in decent shape except for really bad paint peeling and surface rusting but one has to remember how thick steamers are. So long and short, still there but quite the bright outlook indeed.
Half of me wonders if the SRI would have had a better time with it than Colebrookdale. It is much closer and has the space, plus it's on a class 2 so the plain bearings aren't a problem.
6018 King Henry VI was a western legend, it was the longest serving King class and pulled the final train for the class in January 1963. Despite Billy Butlin trying to save the engine, it was in vain and sadly the engine was cut in later in the year. It would be nice to have one of the Henry kings preserved, as we have two Edwards and a George.
@@ElNano9620 It doesn't matter anymore and hasn't since Late December of 2022 for me. Because that was when I discovered that it was mostly Jensen's fault 5629 was cut up, courtesy of Darkness The Curse. th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
Well at least Bessemer & Lake Erie number 643 didn’t end up like that because the Bessemer & Lake Erie 643 is a 2-10-4 Texas type and it was saved by the age of steam roundhouse
As much as we would all love to preserve everything. There is not the time, the space , the motivation, the man power or the money… something has to go.
Indeed. That guy just cared more about his financial troubles and getting as much money out of a lawsuit as possible, than his own locomotive. Unsurprisingly his plan failed so miserably and Metra and the court(who forced them to cut it up) had the last laugh. He just could not let his locomotives go. Also, as you can tell, I eventually learned the truth that 5629 was Jensen's fault when I saw Darkness The Curse's 5629 video on the day the original premiered, and naturally no longer blame Metra for any of it and thus don't take any disliking to them anymore. th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
A Good Video! However, my only criticism is that I think you were being a little bit too harsh on Richard Jensen. He's the man who saved the 5629, and there wasn't much he could've done to save the locomotive. It, for the most part, was completely out of his control.
He learned the truth of what really happened several months ago, and now knows it was Jenson’s fault. The sources he had at the time were just not clear on who’s fault it really was. Infact even Christopher Kovacs didn’t know the real truth until much later on. Andrew even announced this little debacle during his July 4 livestream and along with it the fact he now knows it was really Jenson’s fault. He no longer despises Metra
Check my community tab for a post sharing Darkness The Curse’s 5629 video. I shared it the day it premiered, because I watched it the day it premiered. I completely changed for the greater good after watching it and have resented myself for screwing up the 5629 segment.
I’ve resented myself for screwing up the 5629 segment Eversince discovering the truth about it being Jensen’s fault. Heck, the article where Jensen causing the engine’s death probably hadn’t even surfaced onto the internet when I was writing the script, or worse hadn’t become as noticed enough that I would’ve taken a look.
PLEASE READ: Andrew Later learned the actual truth of 5629 several months ago thanks to History In The Dark and has since turned on Jenson and reconciled with Metra. In other words, he no longer hates Metra and now takes disliking to Jenson. Also note Andrew was in his infancy with research accuracy at the time this video went up.
Thank you for posting this. And you my friend get a special gift ahead of its premiere date: th-cam.com/video/J11r5MJfpfI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TZwUPctzyclAKH-Z
That’s accurate. The internet just doesn’t say the same thing, for now. I am however helping out to expose the real truth of 5629 into the internet(that it was actually Jenson’s fault)
Dude, what the absolute heck?! 😡This story is one of biggest controversies in and infamous in US railroad history. Not to mention, the way I sent about discussing 5629 in this video is the greatest mistake I’ve ever made in my TH-cam life because of how badly I had screwed up when it came to addressing who’s fault it was. Afterall my channel was still in it’s infancy with train videos at the time and I wasn’t as good as this as I was now. And I hadn’t even been doing it for a year at that point. I really encourage you to rethink what you said before I even remove it myself with in a week if I remember. Also on a side note, I eventually learned the truth that it was mostly Jensen’s fault at the beginning of this year from History In The Dark’s 5629 video. Edit: and I made this in response to address my acknowledgement: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 I’ve only heard summaries in similar videos, but I just went and read a couple stories online (not sure if they’re the straight poop or a bit biased). Sounds like Jensen actually told Metra they could scrap it but changed his mind? Then a court ruled that Metra could scrap it if Jensen couldn’t afford to move it. Definitely less irritated at Metra; they took the appropriate legal actions before scrapping the engine. Technically, they did have the authority to scrap it if the owner couldn’t move it. Most rail fans would have preferred that Metra moved it themselves, but business typically rules in these cases. In any case, it’s good there are surviving classmates.
@@ddthompson42 Exactly. I forgot to mention it when typing but I’ve been aware of the real truth since January when I learned about it from History In The Dark’s 5629 video, on the day he put it up, and have even made a few community posts to address my acknowledgment of the truth and the video. I have yet to address it in a narrated video, though I did also talk about it briefly in my July 4 Trainz stream as well.
Come on people make theLB&SCR E2 class alive agian they been dead reserve them pls restore them just please everyone that makes trains i love the LB&SCR E2 class series pls try to revive them
You'll have better luck trying to get a New York Central Hudson built pal. I don't know if you've seen my DOA E2 video, but I sugest you do because it'll explain how these things were actually crap in real life unlike Thomas
Well, can’t say the same thing my old self would say about 5629 anymore. I learned the real truth of this controversy several months ago from History In The Dark. It was actually Jenson’s fault. See his 5629 video and you’ll see what I’m talking about. This whole thing about Metra being at fault was just a false rumor spread by angry foamers. Eversince finding this out at the beginning of 2023, I haven't been hating Metra anymore. th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
One of the Indonesian class c28 4-6-4t steam locomotive no c28 49 actually pulled a secret train from jakarta to yogyakarta arranged by the first president of Indonesia soekarno in 1946 . the last survivor is c28 21 and c28 49 is missing Some say it was srapped some say it was missing
Canadian Pacific Royal Hudson 2850. The locomotive used to pull King George VI’s Royal train during his visit to Canada in 1939. It was this excursion that the King allowed CP to use the name Royal Hudson on their streamlined Hudson’s
Looks like 5629’s ghost will come back to haunt Metra and hunt their engines down. And some say that that same engine took Jimson’s life and the salvage crew as it’s ultimate revenge.
Not really, I realized a few months ago it was more so Jenson’s fault and not so much Metra’s thanks to History In The Dark. Although Metra still did have some fault since some employees did steel parts from 5629 and Metra’s demands to move 5629 were a bit ridiculous since the tracks ahead of 5629 had been pulled up, making a move almost impossible. But still, the blame is mostly on Jenson for not allowing anyone to move 5629. He had even hoped the scrapping would give him the chance to sue Metra for the money needed to fix his medical problems but the court just told him to shut it instead since it was ridiculous what he was trying to do. All he did was destroy 5629. The court gave Metra no choice.
@@marckbryanbalang9315 Think again: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html Your mind has a 50-90% chance of changing after you watch the video in that link starting this Halloween night.
EDIT:
Apologies for getting mislead and mixed up in my research of the demise of GTW 5629. I eventually learned the truth from History In The Dark’s video of 5629 the day it released and have since then blamed Jenson for the death of 5629 and reconciled with Metra. I made this edit to my comment and description because I was recently cyberbullied about this mistake by a Colorado railfan(who did apologize for it) and am taking drastic measures to make my change of thoughts more announced so avoid more risks of my past self being cyberbullied. See my corrected version: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
I know that my voice complaining may get annoying, I was still figuring out the best place to position my microphone to best tolerate how my voice sounded to me.
I’m still working on tolerating my voice
Considering the nearly identical stories and fates that would befell both Grand Trunk Western 5629 and CB&Q 5632, isn't it almost symbolic and slightly unsettling that both have surviving siblings that happen to share each others numbers?
Yeah. That story only got more unsettling when a two part article titled “A Passion For Steam” exposed the shocking truth of how just how much responsibility Jensen had for the loss of GTW 5629, and impact of 5632’s loss on his thought process when 5629 was put in the same danger. That article later became the Basis of History In The Dark’s 5629 video, which I learned the truth from.
When the two mountains line boxcabs retired, 6712 was donated to the town of mont-royal for preservation, but sadly they never succeded in finding her a home, she was scrapped in 2012-2013.
I wish Atsf had preserved the blue goose Hudson. It was Atsf only streamlined steam and was considered a rail fan favorite.
This reminds me of how one of the remaining LNER B1 the 'Mayflower' was not the original real mayflower
Never knew that.
R.I.P Silver Jubilee
Silver Link & Silver foxes name plates can be found in the National Railway Musuem in the collection/gallery area and they are on the wall together
8:11 as soon as i heard GTW 5629, i already felt tears welling up. saddest f*cking failed preservation attempt ever...
huh? I don’t understand EDIT: ohhhhhh
The story to that only got sadder to the internet when a two part article named “A passion for steam” revealed that it was actually Jenson’s fault that it happened, not Metra’s, and that they tried everything they could to get legal authorization to just donate it, in 2021. History In the Dark later based his research for his 5629 video on the content of that article, resulting in him possibly being the first TH-camr to expose Jenson’s idiocy to the platform in late 2022(then reuploaded in January 2023 due to copyright). It was from that video I learned the real truth, on the day it premiered. Since then, I’ve resented myself for screwing up the 5629 segment in this video so badly. So much I even took 48 hours out of my life to make this: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
The GT 5030 for what I heard has been moved out of Jackson, MI not long ago I believe and is now heading to PA. Think they will restore or repair the locomotive from the damage of the elements and people destroying the inside. I have a video that's pretty old that showed the state the Locomotive was in back around 2011 on my channel. If ya ever like to use footage of the Locomotive your more then welcome to use it :) . Great video.
5030 is as of today, still there. From what I heard they may try to steam it up as despite the outward condition, it's what's on the inside that counts. Seems in decent shape except for really bad paint peeling and surface rusting but one has to remember how thick steamers are. So long and short, still there but quite the bright outlook indeed.
Half of me wonders if the SRI would have had a better time with it than Colebrookdale. It is much closer and has the space, plus it's on a class 2 so the plain bearings aren't a problem.
We need the Coronation Scot back
Let’s build a full size replica of one with better maintenance and lubrication!
@@AmityBlightAndSP4449Fan Even better
@@JesusGonzalez-gs1cd so it can be used for excursions at 114MPH!
You're doing great with the videos 👍
Love the enthusiasm :)
6018 King Henry VI was a western legend, it was the longest serving King class and pulled the final train for the class in January 1963. Despite Billy Butlin trying to save the engine, it was in vain and sadly the engine was cut in later in the year. It would be nice to have one of the Henry kings preserved, as we have two Edwards and a George.
well there is one other uk steam fan
Billy Butlin also tried to save the A4 Silver Link. The men at Doncaster refused to cut her up, and outside contractors had to be brought in to do it.
Thank you for 800 subscribers! Let's keep pushing to 1000!
@@Jaidyn228 How is saying Fuck you to a company that scrapped a important engine disrespecting death?
@@ElNano9620 It doesn't matter anymore and hasn't since Late December of 2022 for me. Because that was when I discovered that it was mostly Jensen's fault 5629 was cut up, courtesy of Darkness The Curse. th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 that Jaidyn guy deleted the comment LOL, same, havent bothered at all lol, thanks for responding!
I just realized if there is a abandoned scrapyard do you think there still be steam locomotives in the sheds of a abandoned scrapyard
Well at least Bessemer & Lake Erie number 643 didn’t end up like that because the Bessemer & Lake Erie 643 is a 2-10-4 Texas type and it was saved by the age of steam roundhouse
As much as we would all love to preserve everything. There is not the time, the space , the motivation, the man power or the money… something has to go.
Sandwich 60034
So if I got it right, these classes are more endangered than extinct
Dont worry about your breathing or your voice bro im just tryna hear about sum trains
You should have added the Southern Pacific p-6 preserved 2479, and it's scrapped counterparts the p-14s (former p-6), the "Sunbeam"..
Hadn’t heard about em yet. I’ll try to remember next time
I own the real 7002 headlamp!
11:04 was this another 2-10-4 that pulled excursions? How fast could they go, and why didn't they preserve at least one?
Instead of scrapping it Jensen could have sold the locomotive to Metra instead of having him scrapping it.
Indeed. That guy just cared more about his financial troubles and getting as much money out of a lawsuit as possible, than his own locomotive. Unsurprisingly his plan failed so miserably and Metra and the court(who forced them to cut it up) had the last laugh. He just could not let his locomotives go. Also, as you can tell, I eventually learned the truth that 5629 was Jensen's fault when I saw Darkness The Curse's 5629 video on the day the original premiered, and naturally no longer blame Metra for any of it and thus don't take any disliking to them anymore. th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
A Good Video! However, my only criticism is that I think you were being a little bit too harsh on Richard Jensen. He's the man who saved the 5629, and there wasn't much he could've done to save the locomotive. It, for the most part, was completely out of his control.
He learned the truth of what really happened several months ago, and now knows it was Jenson’s fault. The sources he had at the time were just not clear on who’s fault it really was. Infact even Christopher Kovacs didn’t know the real truth until much later on. Andrew even announced this little debacle during his July 4 livestream and along with it the fact he now knows it was really Jenson’s fault. He no longer despises Metra
Check my community tab for a post sharing Darkness The Curse’s 5629 video. I shared it the day it premiered, because I watched it the day it premiered. I completely changed for the greater good after watching it and have resented myself for screwing up the 5629 segment.
I’ve resented myself for screwing up the 5629 segment Eversince discovering the truth about it being Jensen’s fault. Heck, the article where Jensen causing the engine’s death probably hadn’t even surfaced onto the internet when I was writing the script, or worse hadn’t become as noticed enough that I would’ve taken a look.
Lucky for you, that's about to get fixed tomorrow night: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
PLEASE READ: Andrew Later learned the actual truth of 5629 several months ago thanks to History In The Dark and has since turned on Jenson and reconciled with Metra. In other words, he no longer hates Metra and now takes disliking to Jenson. Also note Andrew was in his infancy with research accuracy at the time this video went up.
Thank you for posting this. And you my friend get a special gift ahead of its premiere date: th-cam.com/video/J11r5MJfpfI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TZwUPctzyclAKH-Z
It’s 7002s wheels size that makes it go fast the bigger the wheels are the faster the locomotive goes
Mr. Jenson was thanos for steam engines
That’s accurate. The internet just doesn’t say the same thing, for now. I am however helping out to expose the real truth of 5629 into the internet(that it was actually Jenson’s fault)
I always love hearing that 5629 story.
“We can’t move your engine without authority, but we sure can scrap it!” Just wild.
Dude, what the absolute heck?! 😡This story is one of biggest controversies in and infamous in US railroad history. Not to mention, the way I sent about discussing 5629 in this video is the greatest mistake I’ve ever made in my TH-cam life because of how badly I had screwed up when it came to addressing who’s fault it was. Afterall my channel was still in it’s infancy with train videos at the time and I wasn’t as good as this as I was now. And I hadn’t even been doing it for a year at that point. I really encourage you to rethink what you said before I even remove it myself with in a week if I remember.
Also on a side note, I eventually learned the truth that it was mostly Jensen’s fault at the beginning of this year from History In The Dark’s 5629 video. Edit: and I made this in response to address my acknowledgement: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
@@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 I’ve only heard summaries in similar videos, but I just went and read a couple stories online (not sure if they’re the straight poop or a bit biased). Sounds like Jensen actually told Metra they could scrap it but changed his mind? Then a court ruled that Metra could scrap it if Jensen couldn’t afford to move it.
Definitely less irritated at Metra; they took the appropriate legal actions before scrapping the engine. Technically, they did have the authority to scrap it if the owner couldn’t move it. Most rail fans would have preferred that Metra moved it themselves, but business typically rules in these cases. In any case, it’s good there are surviving classmates.
@@ddthompson42 Exactly. I forgot to mention it when typing but I’ve been aware of the real truth since January when I learned about it from History In The Dark’s 5629 video, on the day he put it up, and have even made a few community posts to address my acknowledgment of the truth and the video. I have yet to address it in a narrated video, though I did also talk about it briefly in my July 4 Trainz stream as well.
Poor steam locomotives
Come on people make theLB&SCR E2 class alive agian they been dead reserve them pls restore them just please everyone that makes trains i love the LB&SCR E2 class series pls try to revive them
You'll have better luck trying to get a New York Central Hudson built pal. I don't know if you've seen my DOA E2 video, but I sugest you do because it'll explain how these things were actually crap in real life unlike Thomas
@@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 thx! I will be doing it next year tho because of school but yea!
Great video . I skip over 5629,so sad to hear about it. I hate Metro too. There are pieces of the engine remaining but in private collection
Well, can’t say the same thing my old self would say about 5629 anymore. I learned the real truth of this controversy several months ago from History In The Dark. It was actually Jenson’s fault. See his 5629 video and you’ll see what I’m talking about. This whole thing about Metra being at fault was just a false rumor spread by angry foamers. Eversince finding this out at the beginning of 2023, I haven't been hating Metra anymore. th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
One of the Indonesian class c28 4-6-4t steam locomotive no c28 49 actually pulled a secret train from jakarta to yogyakarta arranged by the first president of Indonesia soekarno in 1946 . the last survivor is c28 21 and c28 49 is missing
Some say it was srapped some say it was missing
THAT 7002 IS A SPY
What was that the locomotive in 0:08
Canadian Pacific Royal Hudson 2850. The locomotive used to pull King George VI’s Royal train during his visit to Canada in 1939. It was this excursion that the King allowed CP to use the name Royal Hudson on their streamlined Hudson’s
Just like the NSWGR C38 class from Australia. 3801 - 3805 were stream lined and 2806+ wasn't. Only 3801 has survived. And 3830.
My family and I are from Saint Thomas Ontario!
I'd like to see ten wheeler E class steam up again.
How often do you want to remember that your voice ist bad 😂 I mean your voice is good.
Simple, I just didn’t know how to sound like a robot yet. I’ve also matured since then. LOL
900th sub
IT'S 15 YEARS LATER, NOT 19 YEARS LATER!
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Does the locomotive 5632’s cosines is alive in 2023
I don’t get your grammar.
Welp, I know what I’m doing if I ever get a time machine.
What dates do I go back to so I can save these.
What we lost
pls pls pls pls pls do that for uk steam
Looks like 5629’s ghost will come back to haunt Metra and hunt their engines down. And some say that that same engine took Jimson’s life and the salvage crew as it’s ultimate revenge.
Not really, I realized a few months ago it was more so Jenson’s fault and not so much Metra’s thanks to History In The Dark. Although Metra still did have some fault since some employees did steel parts from 5629 and Metra’s demands to move 5629 were a bit ridiculous since the tracks ahead of 5629 had been pulled up, making a move almost impossible. But still, the blame is mostly on Jenson for not allowing anyone to move 5629. He had even hoped the scrapping would give him the chance to sue Metra for the money needed to fix his medical problems but the court just told him to shut it instead since it was ridiculous what he was trying to do. All he did was destroy 5629. The court gave Metra no choice.
7002 is the fastest steam engine of all time
The steam locomotives the better.
You said 7002 so many times in the first segment lol.
I could’ve done a better job writing the script back then, when I was still in my infancy and thus a bit of an idiot
😔☹😔☹😔☹😔☹😔☹
Americans can’t go over 100mph there’s too many parts on the out side on the streamlining
What are ya, 12? A few have gone above that.
Then 7002 went 100 before flying scotsman
So many railfans including me refuse to believe it since it wasn’t documented
Boo Metra boo
Well yeah i really hate metra because they scrap 5629
Not anymore for me buddy. I learned the real truth a few months ago from Darkness The Curse. It was actually Jenson’s fault.
@@marckbryanbalang9315 Think again: th-cam.com/video/xDSQZ8HYKho/w-d-xo.html
Your mind has a 50-90% chance of changing after you watch the video in that link starting this Halloween night.