Hardware store valves/fittings are mostly brass, fittings/valves for boats are bronze/stainless. Some cheap out and go for brass valves, soonest to the ocean bottom. Best wishes all.
Thanks for the introduction to Sail Life's channel, went over, checked them out, and subscribed right away! Like you, I have left most of the more frivolous sailing channels behind, concentrating on the channels of people who are tried and true seafarers. I absolutely love and recommend 'Ran Sailing', 'Alluring Artic', 'Erik Aanderaa', 'Sailing with Thomas', 'Sampson Boat Co.', 'Sailing Magic Carpet', 'Sam Holmes Sailing', oh, and how could I ever forget 'Adventures of an Old Seadog'! Always on the lookout for introductions to other good sailing channels, thanks again for your suggestions!
You are a generous and humble man Sput! Thank you very much for watching. SVP is in the water and things are coming along very well! So excited. Now get SV Validated up here in three weeks! CUOTO
Hey Tim! You and Crisalida are doing a great job! Really coming along. I do enjoy your "how to" videos. Thanks for the great content! -Bill (Bill & Bell)
This was fascinating! Even though many of the terms you used were way over my head (thank goodness for google), it is great to learn how a professional mariner goes about properly fitting out his sailboat - I learned a lot of technical things from just this vid alone! Systems were a lot simpler when I was a liveaboard blue water cruiser in the '70's and '80's, but still would have loved to have had a teacher like you around back then!
Thank you very much for watching and welcome to the channel. I too have a lot to learn. For example, my friend Sean just informed me that my brass connectors have to be swapped out for bronze or nylon because the saltwater will eat through the brass. Leaning new things is one of the best parts about boat ownership. CUOTO
@svpaquita - Oh, I've been around since you started 'TimBatSea'! All my old likes and comments got lost when my channel got hacked and I had to start all over again with this channel.
Thanks for sharing this, there's so much great information here (and in the comments - never knew about dezincification of brass till now!) I just had to come back and watch again - and bookmark this one. Over the years I've learned so much from your channels, they're a goldmine of information, and fun too! I've been following since you started 'TimBatSea', but my old channel got hacked so all my likes and comments were erased, no one recognises me anymore (when you were new I was one of those folks leaving comments on every video, still 'like' everything, just don't comment as much). Silver lining is getting to go back and watch everything again!
Good stuff skipper. In my many years of working on yachts those strainer through hulls are a pain! Marine growth fets imside of them and blocks them up, where you then need to remove them to clear the blockage. Id always sooner have a straight through hull followed by an easily serviced filter on the inside of the vessel. Keep up yhe good work. CUOTO.
I didn't know about those type valves that can be greased.... that's just smart to use a better product especially on the hull of a boat when you need the confidence that the valve will do the job. Interesting stuff & very hard work. Be safe, Sir. peace
Tim: the primary reason for tinned wire in marine applications is greater resistance to corrosion, but there are a few other benefits. Wire made up of many fine strands is what makes it resist breaking when used in an environment where it is subject to flexing and/or vibration. Thus, multi-strand tinned wire is the standard for marine applications, but is used anywhere the wire is subject to corrosive conditions and/or vibration/flexing. RVs, for instance, should probably be wired with this stuff, but usually are not due to the higher cost. I suspect it is also used in aviation.
Great video! She's shaping up! Love your redundant seacocks. 5200 is a bold move. I was always advised to steer clear of 5200 because I'd never be able to remove anything affixed with that - which seems like the right direction for a through hull - unless you have a flaw or clog or something where you must remove the fitting. Anyway, you are the professional and I'm just an enthusiast! Thanks for video Cuoto!
Thank you very much for watching both channels since the beginning! I started out with 4000. It was hard. Went to 4200. It was hard. Went to 5200 the tip was hard, so used then end out of desperation. 😂. I hope I never have to remove it. Might have to cut it out. 😂.
That brine discharge lever, really think about to where the handle swings in that tight space. TefGel is great particularly where fasteners will be come hot. Think exhaust manifolds on an engine.
I enjoy both your channels. You just seem like a nice down to earth honest guy. On a different note, If for some reason that leaks when you put it back in the water, do you have special stuff to fix it or any leak for that matter?
Thank you for watching and the kind words. We check for leaks when they first put the boat in the water. If any, they raise her back up again. Once in the water, I have plugs for all the Thru-Hulls. CUOTO
@@svpaquita No sarcasm. I’ve been looking for a while. Tired of chartering and ready to retire on the water. Love watching both your channels. Thanks, Bill.
Amen on the Teflon tape discussion - your plumber friends have taught you well! One of these days I hope to get back into sailing and thankfully now we have the internet to learn from experienced sailors like yourself. I can't buy a boat now though as I am 100% confident that if I do, I'll never get anything else done... sailing is an incurable disease that is only cured by more sailing. I for one am enjoying watching you install quality into SV Paquita.
That makes me so happy to hear that! I have shot two or three more videos worth of content to work on when I get back to work. I hope you like the things I'll be showing you that I've done. I am feeling very blessed and proud of the work Crisalída and I have put in to her over this re-fit. CUOTO
@@svpaquita My 25' boat was far simpler and my needs were no where near to what yours are relating to the equipment onboard. So for me, there's much I need to learn and I don't know the questions to ask. Your videos expose me to the systems and methods I would only learn if I were to spend time on a boat. Thank you for taking the time to share!
@2020HotShotTruckingLLC - I agree! Tim's videos are invaluable lessons in how a professional mariner goes about properly fitting his boat out - I have learned so many things that I wouldn't even have known to ask about!
Leave room under that sea strainer to be able to remove and clean., you have to be able to unscrew the plastic bowl and have it clear under the screen which is semi removeable.
😂😂😂😂 I knew I forgot something. 😂 No. I checked and even thought I had mentioned that in the video. But it's all good and working well. Thank you so much for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
Nice one Tim! FYI I switched to Blue Monster PTFE Teflon sealing tape for all my plumbing jobs… it’s thicker for sealing and Teflon for lube. Also Blue monster has a great pipe dope. BTW I wonder if any small boat builders design a sea chest in their boats? Hurry up and float your boat!
😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Stanley! Paquita is now in the water! And she has a sea chest, maine engine, for and aft heads, for and aft A/C, and wash down pump all draw from the same sea chest. Whoever installed the original generator added a dedicated thru hull and the watermark wanted it's own as well. CUOTO
I'm the guy with the 42 Grand Banks. As a rule I will not use 5200. Makes future renovation/repair almost impossible. There are many great sealants available. On another note, the strainer for your water maker equipment seems very small to me. I have larger Groco strainers on the Mai Tai. Easy to service from the top. I don't think you should use any ss parts other than 318.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. It is the strainer that came with the watermark so I would like to think they know what they are sending me. 😂 But Groco strainers are most definitely the best! I had started with 4000, then 4200 before getting the 5200 to flow. I too thought to myself, "I'll most likely have to cut this out if I ever need to remove it". 😂 CUOTO
Thank you for watching Phillip. If all goes well and the winds are favorable, we hope to be in the 207 around the second week of August. Maybe we'll see you up there. CUOTO
Wouldn't use 5200, it's a bear to separate later, 4200 is a better choice. I use dielectric grease on all my crimp fittings. You are correct about the teflon tape, I've had arguments with professional plumbers over this. My dad taught me this when I was a kid. I have a 40ft Marine Trader with hydronic heat, air w/full electronics all self-installed.
Nice! Thank you very much for watching. I don't know if you caught it or not, but I started with 4000. The went to 4200. Then finally to 5200 by puncturing the tube. 😂 This was not by choice, but rather necessity as I had three tubes of hardened sealants. 😂. I too thought that I will never be able to remove this now without cutting it out. CUOTO
anything near waterline even above needs valve esp on sailboat which could be pitched or rolled and that above waterline can now be below many points on a long passage and cause major issues, seen sink drains flood boats many times
Hi Tim. From your geek friend Sean aboard Vector, on safety detail: It looks to me like some of your fittings in the seawater path are brass (hard to be certain in a video, but the tell is that they are fully machined rather than cast). You want to be certain they are all bronze and not brass, so that includes the seacock (which is likely bronze already if it is Groco), the diverter valve, and the nipples. Brass fittings in seawater are subject to an insidious failure condition known as "dezincification." This is where the zinc, which is an internal part of the brass alloy, essentially disappears through galvanic action with the copper part of the alloy, leaving the metal brittle. You'll know when the metal starts to turn pink. I hate to ask you to re-do work, but if any of that is brass I think you are better off swapping for bronze sooner rather than later. Dezincification has sunk more than one boat. Ironically, this is a case where plastic is sometimes a better choice, and you will note that most of the fittings in your Spectra are nylon.
Oh wow....... Way to start my Sunday morning Sean.... 😂 But seriously, thank you for letting me know. I believe they are (the small fittings (nipples) are all brass. I will get on the replacement of them. Thank you again. CUOTO
Thank you for watching John. Pickling the system protects the RO membrane if it goes unused for more than 5 days on a regular systems or more than 30 days on this system with Z-ION system. CUOTO
Oh yes. First thing I checked when putting a plan together. But I will have to change out all the brass on the saltwater side. (That seems to be the only mistake so far. Thank you for watching John. CUOTO
Thank you for watching John. While I am still working, I buy whatever Paquita needs. This re-fit has cost a fortune. But in short, insurance is about 6800, 6 months of mooring is 2600 and about the same again for winter storage. I spent about 1000 on fuel last year. CUOTO
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. I believe that is the case except for the flanged sea-cocks that require drilling mounting screws through the hull or (in this case) a base plate to be epoxied onto the hull first. CUOTO
Hardware store valves/fittings are mostly brass, fittings/valves for boats are bronze/stainless.
Some cheap out and go for brass valves, soonest to the ocean bottom.
Best wishes all.
Thank you for watching Carl. CUOTO
I’m not a boat guy but I enjoy both of your channels. Thanks for the show.
Thank you Rich. That makes me very happy. CUOTO
great video Tim hull fittings are so important I dont think people check them enough 70 deg F here and 8 AM
Thank you for watching Garth. We had a downpour all morning but it's clearing now. CUOTO
👍✅ So enjoyable to watch, especially when it's your money and your headache 🤣 Great job Tim!
😂😂😂😆 Thank you very much for watching! CUOTO
Thanks for the introduction to Sail Life's channel, went over, checked them out, and subscribed right away! Like you, I have left most of the more frivolous sailing channels behind, concentrating on the channels of people who are tried and true seafarers.
I absolutely love and recommend 'Ran Sailing', 'Alluring Artic', 'Erik Aanderaa', 'Sailing with Thomas', 'Sampson Boat Co.', 'Sailing Magic Carpet', 'Sam Holmes Sailing', oh, and how could I ever forget 'Adventures of an Old Seadog'!
Always on the lookout for introductions to other good sailing channels, thanks again for your suggestions!
That's fantastic! He is so good at what he does. CUOTO
Brother you’re going to have a new boat soon. Thanks for being my hero and my guide.
You are a generous and humble man Sput! Thank you very much for watching. SVP is in the water and things are coming along very well! So excited. Now get SV Validated up here in three weeks! CUOTO
Not sure about letting a Captain loose with a Engineer tool😁Thanks Cap👍🏻
You are correct 💯! 😂😅😅 Thank you very much for watching Doc! CUOTO
Hey Tim! You and Crisalida are doing a great job! Really coming along. I do enjoy your "how to" videos. Thanks for the great content! -Bill (Bill & Bell)
Hi Bill and Bell! Thank you for watching! Well cool. I'll make some more. CUOTO
Goof stuff Tim. Good info on teflon tape. Didn’t know that!👍
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
All a mystery to me and enjoying watching you work.
Thank you for watching Jack. I really appreciate it. CUOTO
Good morning Captain Tim. I enjoyed your pipe fitting and plumbing projects. I don’t know much about sailing but I am here to learn.
Thank you for watching Doug. CUOTO
This was fascinating! Even though many of the terms you used were way over my head (thank goodness for google), it is great to learn how a professional mariner goes about properly fitting out his sailboat - I learned a lot of technical things from just this vid alone! Systems were a lot simpler when I was a liveaboard blue water cruiser in the '70's and '80's, but still would have loved to have had a teacher like you around back then!
Thank you very much for watching and welcome to the channel. I too have a lot to learn. For example, my friend Sean just informed me that my brass connectors have to be swapped out for bronze or nylon because the saltwater will eat through the brass. Leaning new things is one of the best parts about boat ownership. CUOTO
@svpaquita - Oh, I've been around since you started 'TimBatSea'!
All my old likes and comments got lost when my channel got hacked and I had to start all over again with this channel.
Thanks for sharing this, there's so much great information here (and in the comments - never knew about dezincification of brass till now!) I just had to come back and watch again - and bookmark this one.
Over the years I've learned so much from your channels, they're a goldmine of information, and fun too!
I've been following since you started 'TimBatSea', but my old channel got hacked so all my likes and comments were erased, no one recognises me anymore (when you were new I was one of those folks leaving comments on every video, still 'like' everything, just don't comment as much). Silver lining is getting to go back and watch everything again!
Oh wow, I really appreciate that! Thank you very very much! CUOTO
All great content as usual Tim. Keep it coming. CUOTO.
Thank you very much for watching all these years. CUOTO
Good stuff skipper. In my many years of working on yachts those strainer through hulls are a pain! Marine growth fets imside of them and blocks them up, where you then need to remove them to clear the blockage. Id always sooner have a straight through hull followed by an easily serviced filter on the inside of the vessel. Keep up yhe good work. CUOTO.
Thank you very much for watching Matt. I too had wanted to put a straight one in, but Spectra recommended this one. I hope I don't regret it. CUOTO
I didn't know about those type valves that can be greased.... that's just smart to use a better product especially on the hull of a
boat when you need the confidence that the valve will do the job. Interesting stuff & very hard work. Be safe, Sir. peace
Thank you very much for watching! CUOTO
Tim: the primary reason for tinned wire in marine applications is greater resistance to corrosion, but there are a few other benefits. Wire made up of many fine strands is what makes it resist breaking when used in an environment where it is subject to flexing and/or vibration. Thus, multi-strand tinned wire is the standard for marine applications, but is used anywhere the wire is subject to corrosive conditions and/or vibration/flexing. RVs, for instance, should probably be wired with this stuff, but usually are not due to the higher cost. I suspect it is also used in aviation.
Outstanding info Bruce! Thank you very very much. CUOTO
Great video! She's shaping up! Love your redundant seacocks. 5200 is a bold move. I was always advised to steer clear of 5200 because I'd never be able to remove anything affixed with that - which seems like the right direction for a through hull - unless you have a flaw or clog or something where you must remove the fitting. Anyway, you are the professional and I'm just an enthusiast! Thanks for video Cuoto!
Thank you very much for watching both channels since the beginning! I started out with 4000. It was hard. Went to 4200. It was hard. Went to 5200 the tip was hard, so used then end out of desperation. 😂. I hope I never have to remove it. Might have to cut it out. 😂.
Nice job! and you kept my bunk clean
😂😂😂 I tried. Thank you for watching Sean. CUOTO
Nice video 😊
Thank you very much for watching George. CUOTO
That brine discharge lever, really think about to where the handle swings in that tight space.
TefGel is great particularly where fasteners will be come hot. Think exhaust manifolds on an engine.
Thank you for watching Mike. Oh yes. Tried, tested and now complete. CUOTO
enjoyed the video and talk thank you Tim
Thank you James. Great to have you over here on this channel. CUOTO
Coming along nice Tim
Thank you very much for watching Steve! CUOTO
I enjoy both your channels. You just seem like a nice down to earth honest guy. On a different note, If for some reason that leaks when you put it back in the water, do you have special stuff to fix it or any leak for that matter?
Thank you for watching and the kind words. We check for leaks when they first put the boat in the water. If any, they raise her back up again. Once in the water, I have plugs for all the Thru-Hulls. CUOTO
Watching you complete all of these fun projects is really helpful. You’re making me want to go buy a sailboat.
Thank you (I think). Not sure if you are being sarcastic. 😂 CUOTO
@@svpaquita No sarcasm. I’ve been looking for a while. Tired of chartering and ready to retire on the water. Love watching both your channels. Thanks, Bill.
Amen on the Teflon tape discussion - your plumber friends have taught you well! One of these days I hope to get back into sailing and thankfully now we have the internet to learn from experienced sailors like yourself. I can't buy a boat now though as I am 100% confident that if I do, I'll never get anything else done... sailing is an incurable disease that is only cured by more sailing. I for one am enjoying watching you install quality into SV Paquita.
That makes me so happy to hear that! I have shot two or three more videos worth of content to work on when I get back to work. I hope you like the things I'll be showing you that I've done. I am feeling very blessed and proud of the work Crisalída and I have put in to her over this re-fit. CUOTO
@@svpaquita My 25' boat was far simpler and my needs were no where near to what yours are relating to the equipment onboard. So for me, there's much I need to learn and I don't know the questions to ask. Your videos expose me to the systems and methods I would only learn if I were to spend time on a boat. Thank you for taking the time to share!
@2020HotShotTruckingLLC - I agree! Tim's videos are invaluable lessons in how a professional mariner goes about properly fitting his boat out - I have learned so many things that I wouldn't even have known to ask about!
Leave room under that sea strainer to be able to remove and clean., you have to be able to unscrew the plastic bowl and have it clear under the screen which is semi removeable.
😂😂😂😂 I knew I forgot something. 😂 No. I checked and even thought I had mentioned that in the video. But it's all good and working well. Thank you so much for watching and welcome to the channel. CUOTO
Nice one Tim! FYI I switched to Blue Monster PTFE Teflon sealing tape for all my plumbing jobs… it’s thicker for sealing and Teflon for lube. Also Blue monster has a great pipe dope. BTW I wonder if any small boat builders design a sea chest in their boats? Hurry up and float your boat!
😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Stanley! Paquita is now in the water! And she has a sea chest, maine engine, for and aft heads, for and aft A/C, and wash down pump all draw from the same sea chest. Whoever installed the original generator added a dedicated thru hull and the watermark wanted it's own as well. CUOTO
Great video. Keep it up.
Thank you very much for watching Rafael! CUOTO
I'm the guy with the 42 Grand Banks. As a rule I will not use 5200. Makes future renovation/repair almost impossible. There are many great sealants available. On another note, the strainer for your water maker equipment seems very small to me. I have larger Groco strainers on the Mai Tai. Easy to service from the top. I don't think you should use any ss parts other than 318.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. It is the strainer that came with the watermark so I would like to think they know what they are sending me. 😂 But Groco strainers are most definitely the best!
I had started with 4000, then 4200 before getting the 5200 to flow. I too thought to myself, "I'll most likely have to cut this out if I ever need to remove it". 😂 CUOTO
I very much enjoy these types of videos, and enjoy both your channels. When are you going to be up in the Maine area sailing .
Thank you for watching Phillip. If all goes well and the winds are favorable, we hope to be in the 207 around the second week of August. Maybe we'll see you up there. CUOTO
Wouldn't use 5200, it's a bear to separate later, 4200 is a better choice. I use dielectric grease on all my crimp fittings. You are correct about the teflon tape, I've had arguments with professional plumbers over this. My dad taught me this when I was a kid. I have a 40ft Marine Trader with hydronic heat, air w/full electronics all self-installed.
Nice! Thank you very much for watching. I don't know if you caught it or not, but I started with 4000. The went to 4200. Then finally to 5200 by puncturing the tube. 😂 This was not by choice, but rather necessity as I had three tubes of hardened sealants. 😂. I too thought that I will never be able to remove this now without cutting it out. CUOTO
anything near waterline even above needs valve esp on sailboat which could be pitched or rolled and that above waterline can now be below many points on a long passage and cause major issues, seen sink drains flood boats many times
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. I am happy I put one on either end. CUOTO
Hi Tim. From your geek friend Sean aboard Vector, on safety detail: It looks to me like some of your fittings in the seawater path are brass (hard to be certain in a video, but the tell is that they are fully machined rather than cast). You want to be certain they are all bronze and not brass, so that includes the seacock (which is likely bronze already if it is Groco), the diverter valve, and the nipples. Brass fittings in seawater are subject to an insidious failure condition known as "dezincification." This is where the zinc, which is an internal part of the brass alloy, essentially disappears through galvanic action with the copper part of the alloy, leaving the metal brittle. You'll know when the metal starts to turn pink. I hate to ask you to re-do work, but if any of that is brass I think you are better off swapping for bronze sooner rather than later. Dezincification has sunk more than one boat. Ironically, this is a case where plastic is sometimes a better choice, and you will note that most of the fittings in your Spectra are nylon.
Oh wow....... Way to start my Sunday morning Sean.... 😂 But seriously, thank you for letting me know. I believe they are (the small fittings (nipples) are all brass. I will get on the replacement of them. Thank you again. CUOTO
@sw0i - Gosh, I hope everyone sees this potentially lifesaving comment, I had never heard of this reaction, thank you!
great info thanks! CUOTO!
Thank you for watching Lester. CUOTO
What do you “pickle “ with, is that for the purpose of cleaning everything including the RO water maker?
Thank you for watching John. Pickling the system protects the RO membrane if it goes unused for more than 5 days on a regular systems or more than 30 days on this system with Z-ION system. CUOTO
Do all metal thru hulls need to be bonded?
ABYC says they should. CUOTO
Do you have clearance to remove sea strainer?
Oh yes. First thing I checked when putting a plan together. But I will have to change out all the brass on the saltwater side. (That seems to be the only mistake so far. Thank you for watching John. CUOTO
13:38 - that's not her mascara brush is it???
😂😂😂😂 No. The tub of TefGel came with two of those. Thank you for watching Heath. CUOTO
🤭 it really did look like a mascara brush! 😂😂😂
As you get your hands dirty, can I bring up an equally dirty subject? What is your budget for Paquita for one year?
Thank you for watching John. While I am still working, I buy whatever Paquita needs. This re-fit has cost a fortune. But in short, insurance is about 6800, 6 months of mooring is 2600 and about the same again for winter storage. I spent about 1000 on fuel last year. CUOTO
Cocking Tim!
Thanks
😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Jerome. CUOTO
I should simplify my budget question and ask you how much did the parts and accessories for the sea cock system cost, $500?
Probably pretty close. 😂 CUOTO
Hello tim , after your retirement l hope you will decide to live out your old days on paquita in warm seas sipping cocktails naked with old friend
😂😂😂 Thank you very much for watching Denis. That sounds like a good plan. CUOTO
Sorry to say but usually the screen is the first component mounted on centre of hole with very short screws then the sea-cock is screwed to it.
Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel. I believe that is the case except for the flanged sea-cocks that require drilling mounting screws through the hull or (in this case) a base plate to be epoxied onto the hull first. CUOTO
As you get your hands dirty, can I bring up an equally dirty subject? What is your budget for Paquita for one year?
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