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Didn't you hear that TNT is the reason the women aren't shown as much though? AEW can't control the network, it's the other way around. We all want to see more women but it doesn't sound like it's their choice
@@alexisisanarieka4311 did you even watch the video? He talks about the possibility of it being a TNT problem and why we should be supporting the women even harder so they can get more TV time
So, here's what I noticed when the tournament started when it did. When the first match on the US side at the start of febuary I thought, "Okay, some of the matches need to go up on Dark or something OR they need to replace a slot that would normally go to a men's segment with the tournament." They went the former which is probably the safer bet, at least as ratings are concerned. Here's a question Tranquilo, with hindsight being as it is if you needed to replace matches that happened with women's tournament ones, which would they be? Orange Cassidy vs Luther is a good pick, but I don't know what you would do about that 4th quarterfinal match?
Having Brandon Cutler vs Jake Hager on Dynamite this week almost feels like a slap in the face to the women’s division. Literally nobody wants to see that match
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@@akwilson1676 He didn't bother to elaborate some of his view points. So it just leaves me to think he's only doing this for the views. Speaking of that, last year he stated that wrestling fans like Jim Cornette are some of the worst fans wrestling has today and that they need to accept that the old days are gone. Now he's pulled a 180 stating that he agrees with most of Cornette's views on wrestling, but didn't really state which opinions he agrees with him on.
I swear tranquilo don’t miss I swear🔥.But I think this a tnt thing but if the ratings is starring them in the face than tnt can’t do anything so tony Khan Plz.
Thunderosa vs riho will draw big numbers, it baffles me that they wouldn't main event that match, I'm super excited to watch it, I feel bad for the girls, it's not right
Great News: We finally are getting two women matches next week. Jade Cargill will be in action. Thunder Rosa vs Britt Baker will main event next Wednesday. Somebody must be listening. Next Wednesday
Yeah I’m not gonna say any names, some TH-cam channels started spreading a lot more negativity towards AEW because of the copyright strikes. Those comments that you were getting are probably people coming from others channels. I appreciate it by the way, I see enough people trying to dismiss AEW just because they don’t want to review anymore. Many are Showing that they were just in it for the clicks. A lot of what I’ve heard, criticizing the new Japan crossover doesn’t really make much sense to me either. It’s like somebody digging for problems with a shovel. I’m not saying AEW perfect, but a lot of people are coming up with doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Just calling somebody a mark is flat out stupid in my opinion. Why is he a mark with your obvious fake account explain
When i see Cezar Bononi, Griff Garrison or Ryan Nemeth on Dynamite while really talented wrestlers (male and female) wrestle on youtube channel it's really pisses me off. P.S. Squash matches should stay in 90's.
Wish I could give this a million thumbs up! I was just thinking this very thing as I watched the matches on YT. I got the Japan stuff, but I was like “WTF!!” Great way to be on the pulse of what’s going on. Great content man.
5:55 I never understood that Omega tweet. I thought TK was responsible for what was on his show or not? It's up to TK to book the women. I doubt it's on TNT. But yea excellent well researched points per usual.
On reddit there are some people saying TK is not a big fan of women wrestling, personally i believe that's true, TK is a fan of old school wrestling, and on some podcast when mentioning the rising star of aew, he didn't even mention any women wrestlers like Britt Baker... But this week we finally got women main event and 2 women's matches on Dynamite, so i guess we'll see, maybe even TK is not a fan of women wrestling, he's still willing to listen to others and give us what we want
Fantastic as always, I'm with you on everything, I didn't realize until you said it that thunder rosa vs riho is on bleacher report? What? Dude. No. That's a main event match
I'd much rather see Riho vs Thunder Rosa than moxley vs nemeth or cutler vs hagar I'm a huge AEW fan. They got me back to loving and watching wrestling again for the first time in so long. Just really disappointed with the handling of this. They have better women talent now than they did when they started the company. Also, Deebs vs Riho stole the show last week. Loved it for many reasons
I agree with you on this 1000%. It is disappointing seeing these talented women on the sidelines 90% of the time in AEW. I am extremely disappointed that rosa vs rhio is happening on bleacher report of all places. Rhio vs rose should be the main event of tonight's show. I am still gonna watch it but still. I love AEW too but the biggest criticism i have is how they are handling the aew women division. AEW need to do the women justice and i hope they do because they have the talent. Great video tranquilo club
I have a little tid bit... and I'll be honest from the start as a fan of women's wrestling my self, in fact, I am a massive fan, like I even do my best to support the all-womens brands like EVE, TJPW, STARDOM, even MPW and Shimmer; with all of this being said, I really despise other (mostly male) fans of women's wrestling for (boiling it down to the least insulting) being pretty much the Kpop stans of the wrestling world (yes they are that toxic). Now I do agree with you, but with all of this complaining and no results are coming up, the only thing we can do that is left is to SHOW AEW, TNT, and Warner Media that there is a market for it, if numbers is what they want, than we as a fanbase will have to show them numbers. I get the feeling that actions will be speaking much louder than words, and all of this have to be consistent too.
i agree with almost everything said on the video the only thing that i disagree is that this is the best moment of womens division, the best moment was before the begin of Dynamite, look at the 1st Double or Nothing, beside not having singles matches, the hype there was high as tag team and mens division, the reaction when Awesome Kong entered the arena, that insane joshi trios match between Aja Kong, Yuka & Emi x Riho, Shida & Rio (imo the best match of the division until now), the faceoff between Aja Kong and Awesome Kong, Riho kinda turning heel on Yuka, Britt Baker x Bea Pristley, even was Allie doing something... The moment that made them give up on division was Nightmare Collective, but even that car crash could be saved, like they saved Dark Order, when they're started to show that something was clearly wrong with Brandi, we could even had bad Brandi & good Brandi, like Jay Lethal impersonating Savage, the whole hair collecting thing could had an absolute sense on 2 weeks if their goal was summon Abadon, she would be an even bigger force than she is now... That probably made Tony and TNT re-think about womens division, but never was a problem with fans, was and still is a problem of storytelling in and out of the ring, this tournament show this clearly, on joshi matches besides great part of us not even knowing half of the participants, had amazing storytelling be for fun(Rio x Maki Itoh) or more serious(Aja Kong x Rio, Rio x Yuka), while american matches focused much more on moves than build a story... The worst part there is no follow up after the tournament, be Shida or Rio winning they will be forgotten by the booking on the morning after, and that is very a serious problem that is starting on the other divisions too, for instance where is Joey Janela?? Cutler & Avalon after their feud had done nothing at all, Jurassic Express got almost a year with nothing good to do... AEW has done a great job on main feuds until now, but the womens division and the ppl not on main feuds are totally forgotten, like Ivelisse and Diamante (the "Lucha Bros" of womens division), Allie or Mel, tbh honest right now i'm more hyped to see Fuego x QT on DARK than Shida x Rio because of poor booking... I know there is the pandemic issue too but THERE IS TOO A GREAT LACK OF EFFORT on AEW's part on the booking of womens division
I wondered why this went down on YT. I missed the first Video on YT and was confused when they just dropped the results on Dynamite. Wonder what the Problem is. Even if the quality of the JP Matches is subpar in production, the matches were fucking awesome.
I agree with this SO MUCH. The women are ready for the spotlight and it's so frustrating that AEW keeps dropping the ball. I legitimately agree with every single one of your points!
Great vid as always man, and an important one. I wasn't too bothered about the Japanese side of the bracket being on TH-cam to be honest - cutting from Daily's Place to the empty Japanese arena with a number of wrestlers that have never been featured on AEW before mightn't have been the best move. Now you can counter point that by saying it's a perfect opportunity to introduce the likes of Maki Itoh and you may be right! But not featuring the cancelled Anna vs Britt match and Riho vs Thunder Rosa on Dynamite are very strange decisions which I completely disagree with. If AEW want to attract free agents then they'll have to show that they will be given more prominence.
It's both a TNT and TK thing. Remember that when dynamite started they had 2 women's matches but the fans complained and the nightmare collective didn't help so they reduced the air time. Give them time and let it breathe. I think Kenny improved as a booker for the women.
The quality of talent they have access to now is drastically better than a year ago Tony Khan needs to start putting in the same care in terms of storylines for all divisions. Another thing that has been beaten to death already but Maki Itoh being eliminated in rd1 was completely tone deaf and hurt interest in the tournament. She may not be the best worker but she grabs everyones attention and has so much charisma that she might be the talent that live audiences need to really invest a in division that hasn't really found it's central protagonist yet.
I'd read somewhere they only have a certain number of women's matches on Dynamite due to TNT and ratings, I'm not defending them or anything, it's just something I'd heard.
I am fine with being critical on the AEW women's division. Honestly my favorite in the AEW women's division besides Thunder Rosa has been out injured since mid 2020 and should be back soon? That being Kris Statlander. While I do like Shida and Swole, the AEW women's division has been stale for some time. I wonder if the problem was this idea came very late and was at a time where the rest of Dynamite episodes heading to Revolution were booked out. I am giving AEW the benefit of the doubt here, because you have 7 matches you now need to squeeze in and do justice for. I rather longer matches on TH-cam than squash matches. Now I'll say the Riho Thunder Rosa match should have been on Dynamite than the snoozefest that was Nyla versus Baker.
Well this Bleacher report special show was established to promote their upcoming PPV Revolution, obviously more viewers on a sunday can be reached at BR. So i gonna give AEW that benefit of doubt. However, after AEW Revolution PPV, i think we fans want to see more focus and better storylines for the women division on AEW Dynamite. I am still HOPING Thea Trinidad debuts on Revolution since her no compete clause just expired and she create a faction and rope in the likes of Ivelisse and Diamante. Cant Wait for Revolution, gonna be DOPE...
The women’s championship tournament is actually better than the men’s championship tournament near the end of last year. Don’t get me wrong almost all the matches from the men’s were amazing matches (Penta v Fenix especially), but we always knew that at the end it was going to be Kenny v Hangman, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but it did take away from the suspense of who could win the tournament. With the women’s championship tournament, it seems that anyone in the tournament can actually win it. Also maybe it’s just me but it seems like there’s a lot of stories being set up within the women’s division thanks to this tournament and I would really be disappointed if nothing came to fruition after the revolution match.
Hey man, would you be open to making more videos of the negatives of AEW and what you believe they could do to change them? Anyways another banger video, i agree with all of it. Thunder vs Riho is a total missed opportunity not being on Dynamite.
I'm the first guy to criticize AEW and yet I like that the women's stuff is spread out and on different day's. More AEW the better, I'm watching it regardless, I enjoy it regardless. The complaining about the women is annoying at this point. Will there be tournament matches on Dynamite? Yes, the end. Either you're a fan and watch or you're not and then you're complaining to be a hater and at that point who cares.
This was actually a Stella match..not just good for the womens division as we've often said in aew..I throughly enjoyed it.and hopefully it's a huge step forward...but the women were always going to be the hardest division to grow as the net isnt as wide cast.women are relatively new to elite performance level compared to their male counterparts.its still growing among women.ans as it grows we will continue to see more women perform at the highest level...and to be honest,pro wrestling should give them the most equal playing field to compared to any other sport as its entertainment.and u work with you opponent.i have no stigmas against female wrestlers.but I'm also not going to ignore why uts not as progressed.im happy to watch any1,male or female as long as its top notch entertainment
I would love if AEW booked the women for half of the shows Dynamite, Dark & all PPV's every other match and the co main event should always be AEW Woman's & Men's Championship... & Give us women's tag team championship. I'll even take a woman's TNT championship. Just give us more women's matches!!!
So it's not Omega/Brandi's fault. TNT are probably pushing for segments like Orange/Luther. And I respect all Luther did. And the segment wasn't long. But you could have booked the women there.
I lost interest in the women's division in AEW not long after Riho left. It was really good then died down after the first year. This tournament-style contest really has me interested again!
Yeah honestly having squash matches instead of more women on TV is unacceptable and at a certain point excuses must fall on deaf ears..and i say this as a guy that if it wasn't for AEW would have stopped watching wrestling
Far far more people watch Dynamite than any of their TH-cam stuff, About 1/3 of the audience watched rd1 of the tournament and the number has dropped from there.
Yeah if aew gives atleast 2 segments a dynamite episode then it will improve women's division a lot Instead of squash matches give those top guys promo segments those squashes just break the momentum of entire show and if they let these talented ladies have atleast 2 segments it will be a great favour They can deliver great matches and they will surely improve by the time If aew from now on wards takes women's division seriously then in future dynamite show will be better than what we get today Dynamite show is incomplete without a proper women's division They have talent but is there even a storyline yeah rosa and baker thats it So if women's division gets proper involvement in dynamite then only we will get a damn complete episode of dynamite with the balance of women's tag and male division and that will be better Btw when will kris satlander will return she is also really talented She appears in bte but when will she cone back it has been a year But all in all give these ladies tv time and some legit storyline ...
It was planned badly. The tournament should have started before, they did it too late and due to the tv time they failed with this. Was disappointed to see the american bracket was on yt :( but Im sure after the tournament they will change this. Lets see what happens...
Completely ignorant opinion, but the problem with women's wrestling in AEW is the lack of sustained name-brand appeal. Outside of the us, the hardcore fans, who knows who Riho, Thunderosa, Britt Baker, or Sereena Deeb? Give the division 3-4 years, make 4-6 major womens stars, and incorporate womens division with the mens. AEW does a superb job making factions, yet outside of Anna Jay, what female wrestler is in a faction? What boosted Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, and most importantly MJF was their inclusion in groups. AEW is not a promotion where single stars are meant to thrive, yet the women's division is left to its own devices. Throw Tay Conti into a babyface group like the Inner Circle. It'd feel like they're pulling the trigger on a major push for her, does give her a decent rub, and puts her in the limelight. Have her feud with Sereena Deeb and have the pinnacle recruit her.
@@alexisisanarieka4311 that why women's division is in shambles. First with riho everyone was complaining she's too small she lives in Japan then with nyla she's a man and now with Tessa. If they let her join WWE then Im done with this women's division. Imagine WWE rejecting Shawn Michaels because he was a douche. Which he actually was. Same for WCW rejecting Hogan . She's too big a talent to pass on. Tessa is the big X-factor they need. Plus people change with time and she has her dad and cage to check on her attitude. She's pretty close to Cage too.
@@SleightCreative dude she's just 24 everyone should get a second chance. Remember everyone acts like a dick in college. Also she might have matured as a human being after all those years.
The women's division is going to be fine. The matches throughout the tourney have all been top tier and there were 16 women in the field. All of them highlighted, idk what more you need them to do. You couldn't have the entire tourney on Dynamite in time for Revolution. They had 8 matches. Every other tourney you mentioned had like 4 matches to do.
They had to scatter it due to 3 major things. 1st the Japanese production was not TNT level, 2nd many of these matches include non signed talent, and 3 the contracts prevent some of these wrestlers from being on certain platforms.
From what I've heard about the tournament... the reason the tournament's been done the way it has... the blame can be put on TNT for that, actually (the biggest bit of evidence for that was the Kenny Omega tweet calling for people to yell at TNT and support the tournament and show there IS a market for it). Between TNT not liking the production of the Japanese leg of the tournament and the fact they feel like women's wrestling isn't a draw (since it normally doesn't do so hot in the quarter rating breakdown... largely because the women's matches usually fall in the graveyard slot), they kinda fucked AEW in that regard, so AEW was forced to have to put most of it on TH-cam and now Bleacher Report. If it were up to AEW, it would've been on TV wholly, but they're at the mercy of the network. I mean, it took WWE literally DECADES to get the sort of sway they have with networks: AEW isn't going to get that with only a few years in the business, unfortunately.
I give the women's division some harsh criticism. But thats because they have a lot to prove over the pedigree of the men's division. they need to find their own place. an i would say they have. I only skip the women's division because the support for them at ringside is annoying and soul grating. thats it. even then i watch more often than not. The women work very fucking hard. and the supports have their reasons for being there and why they do what they do. I hate Vicky. but i love that she is there. doing her thing. making me hate her :P
@@bossmafia9008 so? I'm bored of her and wanted either conti or Riho to win. The reason why they did doesn't matter to me, I wanted conti to get pushed so now I lost interest.
@@SoulFistGaming Ok, Conti can get push but she's not ready for that push yet. Britt's time is now, Riho could win as well tbh. I mean they are messing up some stuff in AEW but it makes perfect sense for Nyla to win that match to go against Britt since Nyla is a former AEW women's champion, it will boost Britt Baker more into a draw for the women's division in AEW. Tay Conti is young and will have her moment soon. And besides, it's just one win and Nyla is gonna lose anyways.
@@bossmafia9008 I already knew nyla was gonna win when she beat conti She might lose in the finals or we'll get nyla vs shida again As I stated before I'm bored and done with nyla rose and she killed all my interest
The men's matches took place on TV because people wanted to watch them. The women's tournament can't carry an audience. WWE has the best of the best in women's talent and they can't carry a 2 hour show. Womens wrestling isn't the draw that men's is. I know we're not allowed to tell the truth when it comes to race or gender today, but women can't carry a show on their own.
I personally blame Tony Khan, he comes off like a fan of wrestling like you and me, but if you think about it he is a big fan of early NWA days, NJPW and ECW and what exactly do all of those have in common... I mean TNT probably doesn't help
I think the problem now it's the time. So now they are creating the second show but in youtube. Let's see what happens. I give them the reasonable doubt.
"By putting something on TH-cam, you're saying it can't be on Dynamite". Ummm.... no, that's not what that means at all. They're spreading their content throughout many different platforms, because that's how AEW fans consume media. We aren't in the 50+ demo
Hey guys, this one is a bit different from my previous videos. If you agree with the message in this one, I encourage you to please share this and make sure AEW hears all of our voices. As always, thank you for your support.
Didn't you hear that TNT is the reason the women aren't shown as much though? AEW can't control the network, it's the other way around. We all want to see more women but it doesn't sound like it's their choice
@Tranquilo Club what is your opinion on jr comments on the crazy spots in matches
@@alexisisanarieka4311 did you even watch the video? He talks about the possibility of it being a TNT problem and why we should be supporting the women even harder so they can get more TV time
So, here's what I noticed when the tournament started when it did. When the first match on the US side at the start of febuary I thought, "Okay, some of the matches need to go up on Dark or something OR they need to replace a slot that would normally go to a men's segment with the tournament." They went the former which is probably the safer bet, at least as ratings are concerned.
Here's a question Tranquilo, with hindsight being as it is if you needed to replace matches that happened with women's tournament ones, which would they be? Orange Cassidy vs Luther is a good pick, but I don't know what you would do about that 4th quarterfinal match?
@@areallybigdwarf4560 you ok man? Gotta be careful about those comment coughs.
Having Brandon Cutler vs Jake Hager on Dynamite this week almost feels like a slap in the face to the women’s division. Literally nobody wants to see that match
OK but would that time be better being a short Riho Thunder Rosa match? I say no.
it was a set up to see the bucks dad get killed but I get your point
I'd watch Tranquilo Club over pllana any day
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Pllana doesn’t have consistent opinions about wrestling lol, he flips every video based on the topic. He does quantity over quality.
@@johnmantikas yeahh right man👍
@@johnmantikas Also his thumbnails feel like clickbait.
@@akwilson1676 He didn't bother to elaborate some of his view points. So it just leaves me to think he's only doing this for the views.
Speaking of that, last year he stated that wrestling fans like Jim Cornette are some of the worst fans wrestling has today and that they need to accept that the old days are gone. Now he's pulled a 180 stating that he agrees with most of Cornette's views on wrestling, but didn't really state which opinions he agrees with him on.
I swear tranquilo don’t miss I swear🔥.But I think this a tnt thing but if the ratings is starring them in the face than tnt can’t do anything so tony Khan Plz.
That women's match was one of my fav matches so far
Thunderosa vs riho will draw big numbers, it baffles me that they wouldn't main event that match, I'm super excited to watch it, I feel bad for the girls, it's not right
was watching the deeb and riho with my dad and our eyes were glued to the screen the selling was great from both wrestlers it was very fin to watch
@phil robichaud spot on
Riho/Deeb was match of the night by a country mile, that night.
I’d like to see Riho/Deeb for the NWA Women’s title
Great News: We finally are getting two women matches next week. Jade Cargill will be in action. Thunder Rosa vs Britt Baker will main event next Wednesday. Somebody must be listening. Next Wednesday
Yeah I’m not gonna say any names, some TH-cam channels started spreading a lot more negativity towards AEW because of the copyright strikes. Those comments that you were getting are probably people coming from others channels. I appreciate it by the way, I see enough people trying to dismiss AEW just because they don’t want to review anymore. Many are Showing that they were just in it for the clicks. A lot of what I’ve heard, criticizing the new Japan crossover doesn’t really make much sense to me either. It’s like somebody digging for problems with a shovel. I’m not saying AEW perfect, but a lot of people are coming up with doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Just calling somebody a mark is flat out stupid in my opinion. Why is he a mark with your obvious fake account explain
I try to look at the positive as well as acknowledge the negative and everything you said is 100% correct
Me who doesnt have the money to watch dynamite: YEAH TH-cam
There are....methods to watching it online.
@@OrochiFlamez that cost money
@@Schaffsbiggestfan There are avenues to watch it online at no cost.
@@Schaffsbiggestfan Actually I know a way to watch Wrestling for free. It's called "watchwrestling."
When i see Cezar Bononi, Griff Garrison or Ryan Nemeth on Dynamite while really talented wrestlers (male and female) wrestle on youtube channel it's really pisses me off.
P.S. Squash matches should stay in 90's.
The GOAT uploaded a Video and AEW Signed The Big Show.....
Now Marko stunt can finally meet his favourite wrestler.
@@shivamsingh-lb1mg LOL. Luchasaurus and Big Show facing in a chess game on BTE. 😂
How many time will he turn heel ?
@@JaimeD. dude has a master's degree im rooting for the dinosaur.
@@shivamsingh-lb1mg Me too.
TC: We dont want it on youtube, we want it on dynamite
My broke ass: Um... about that
Super like. Constructive criticism!! 💯 Agree!!!!
I think the Bleacher Report thing will be bigger than any of us realize.
Ok so they should put a men's match on it first since they are the draw, right?
It ended up being a trainwreck with BR screwing over international viewers Tony Khan was clearly annoyed with the situation.
Wish I could give this a million thumbs up! I was just thinking this very thing as I watched the matches on YT. I got the Japan stuff, but I was like “WTF!!” Great way to be on the pulse of what’s going on. Great content man.
Wish the Riho, and Rosa match was on Dynamite. That’s a big miss. I still love AEW, and their women’s divisions has done a 180 since post full gear.
Amen brother. This is exactly what needed to be said.
5:55 I never understood that Omega tweet. I thought TK was responsible for what was on his show or not? It's up to TK to book the women. I doubt it's on TNT. But yea excellent well researched points per usual.
On reddit there are some people saying TK is not a big fan of women wrestling, personally i believe that's true, TK is a fan of old school wrestling, and on some podcast when mentioning the rising star of aew, he didn't even mention any women wrestlers like Britt Baker...
But this week we finally got women main event and 2 women's matches on Dynamite, so i guess we'll see, maybe even TK is not a fan of women wrestling, he's still willing to listen to others and give us what we want
Fantastic as always, I'm with you on everything, I didn't realize until you said it that thunder rosa vs riho is on bleacher report? What? Dude. No. That's a main event match
I'd much rather see Riho vs Thunder Rosa than moxley vs nemeth or cutler vs hagar
I'm a huge AEW fan. They got me back to loving and watching wrestling again for the first time in so long. Just really disappointed with the handling of this. They have better women talent now than they did when they started the company.
Also, Deebs vs Riho stole the show last week. Loved it for many reasons
I agree with you on this 1000%. It is disappointing seeing these talented women on the sidelines 90% of the time in AEW. I am extremely disappointed that rosa vs rhio is happening on bleacher report of all places. Rhio vs rose should be the main event of tonight's show. I am still gonna watch it but still. I love AEW too but the biggest criticism i have is how they are handling the aew women division. AEW need to do the women justice and i hope they do because they have the talent. Great video tranquilo club
You’re absolutely right, the talent is not an issue. The ratings are not an issue. TNT and AEW Management are the problem.
I have a little tid bit... and I'll be honest from the start as a fan of women's wrestling my self, in fact, I am a massive fan, like I even do my best to support the all-womens brands like EVE, TJPW, STARDOM, even MPW and Shimmer; with all of this being said, I really despise other (mostly male) fans of women's wrestling for (boiling it down to the least insulting) being pretty much the Kpop stans of the wrestling world (yes they are that toxic). Now I do agree with you, but with all of this complaining and no results are coming up, the only thing we can do that is left is to SHOW AEW, TNT, and Warner Media that there is a market for it, if numbers is what they want, than we as a fanbase will have to show them numbers. I get the feeling that actions will be speaking much louder than words, and all of this have to be consistent too.
when is Kris Statlander due to return? Why does Nyla Rose never wrestle? Let alone Shida
I agree with you 100 percent.
I feel like AEW doesn't care about the women at all. I totally agree with you, i was excited for the tournament but got disappointed
i agree with almost everything said on the video the only thing that i disagree is that this is the best moment of womens division,
the best moment was before the begin of Dynamite, look at the 1st Double or Nothing, beside not having singles matches, the hype there was high as tag team and mens division, the reaction when Awesome Kong entered the arena, that insane joshi trios match between Aja Kong, Yuka & Emi x Riho, Shida & Rio (imo the best match of the division until now), the faceoff between Aja Kong and Awesome Kong, Riho kinda turning heel on Yuka, Britt Baker x Bea Pristley, even was Allie doing something...
The moment that made them give up on division was Nightmare Collective, but even that car crash could be saved, like they saved Dark Order, when they're started to show that something was clearly wrong with Brandi, we could even had bad Brandi & good Brandi, like Jay Lethal impersonating Savage, the whole hair collecting thing could had an absolute sense on 2 weeks if their goal was summon Abadon, she would be an even bigger force than she is now...
That probably made Tony and TNT re-think about womens division, but never was a problem with fans, was and still is a problem of storytelling in and out of the ring, this tournament show this clearly, on joshi matches besides great part of us not even knowing half of the participants, had amazing storytelling be for fun(Rio x Maki Itoh) or more serious(Aja Kong x Rio, Rio x Yuka),
while american matches focused much more on moves than build a story... The worst part there is no follow up after the tournament, be Shida or Rio winning they will be forgotten by the booking on the morning after, and that is very a serious problem that is starting on the other divisions too, for instance where is Joey Janela?? Cutler & Avalon after their feud had done nothing at all, Jurassic Express got almost a year with nothing good to do... AEW has done a great job on main feuds until now, but the womens division and the ppl not on main feuds are totally forgotten, like Ivelisse and Diamante (the "Lucha Bros" of womens division), Allie or Mel, tbh honest right now i'm more hyped to see Fuego x QT on DARK than Shida x Rio because of poor booking...
I know there is the pandemic issue too but THERE IS TOO A GREAT LACK OF EFFORT on AEW's part on the booking of womens division
The TBS Championship Tournament (so far) has learned from this situation and it feels like a big deal. :)
Never thought about that ... bit you are right they deserve a place on tv rather then youtube specially riho va thunder rosa
I wondered why this went down on YT. I missed the first Video on YT and was confused when they just dropped the results on Dynamite.
Wonder what the Problem is. Even if the quality of the JP Matches is subpar in production, the matches were fucking awesome.
I agree with this SO MUCH. The women are ready for the spotlight and it's so frustrating that AEW keeps dropping the ball. I legitimately agree with every single one of your points!
I honestly think that maybe they should have a second show for the women's division on TNT or maybe TBS that is 1 hour long. Should work right?
1st round match Veny vs emi Sakura was fire. I hope they give some of these women some tv time on dynamite
Great vid as always man, and an important one. I wasn't too bothered about the Japanese side of the bracket being on TH-cam to be honest - cutting from Daily's Place to the empty Japanese arena with a number of wrestlers that have never been featured on AEW before mightn't have been the best move. Now you can counter point that by saying it's a perfect opportunity to introduce the likes of Maki Itoh and you may be right! But not featuring the cancelled Anna vs Britt match and Riho vs Thunder Rosa on Dynamite are very strange decisions which I completely disagree with. If AEW want to attract free agents then they'll have to show that they will be given more prominence.
maki ito needs to be in aew
It's both a TNT and TK thing. Remember that when dynamite started they had 2 women's matches but the fans complained and the nightmare collective didn't help so they reduced the air time. Give them time and let it breathe. I think Kenny improved as a booker for the women.
The quality of talent they have access to now is drastically better than a year ago Tony Khan needs to start putting in the same care in terms of storylines for all divisions.
Another thing that has been beaten to death already but Maki Itoh being eliminated in rd1 was completely tone deaf and hurt interest in the tournament. She may not be the best worker but she grabs everyones attention and has so much charisma that she might be the talent that live audiences need to really invest a in division that hasn't really found it's central protagonist yet.
I'd read somewhere they only have a certain number of women's matches on Dynamite due to TNT and ratings, I'm not defending them or anything, it's just something I'd heard.
@The Badderman I mean, if Women are getting the highest rated match, I'm not sure if your post holds water.
@The Badderman They literally just had a contest. It was ratings. The girls did great. Stop being weak, man.
@The Badderman Ahhh, damn, you chose being weak. :/ Later days
That's a pretty cool channel intro you got
Block the haters
I am fine with being critical on the AEW women's division. Honestly my favorite in the AEW women's division besides Thunder Rosa has been out injured since mid 2020 and should be back soon? That being Kris Statlander. While I do like Shida and Swole, the AEW women's division has been stale for some time.
I wonder if the problem was this idea came very late and was at a time where the rest of Dynamite episodes heading to Revolution were booked out. I am giving AEW the benefit of the doubt here, because you have 7 matches you now need to squeeze in and do justice for. I rather longer matches on TH-cam than squash matches. Now I'll say the Riho Thunder Rosa match should have been on Dynamite than the snoozefest that was Nyla versus Baker.
The women need more tv time . At least 2 matches a show . Aew has 2 many tag matches
Right topic, of this video.. unbiased opinion
They really need to sign Maki Itoh, Mei Soruga, and several others from the Japan Side
They basically need to have a based show on TNT that feature just the female roster I would watch it.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the working relationship between AEW and Impact Wrestling.
Good stuff. I agree with you.
Well this Bleacher report special show was established to promote their upcoming PPV Revolution, obviously more viewers on a sunday can be reached at BR. So i gonna give AEW that benefit of doubt. However, after AEW Revolution PPV, i think we fans want to see more focus and better storylines for the women division on AEW Dynamite. I am still HOPING Thea Trinidad debuts on Revolution since her no compete clause just expired and she create a faction and rope in the likes of Ivelisse and Diamante. Cant Wait for Revolution, gonna be DOPE...
Everyone like and share this. Let's show the the we support them and show the people in charge we are behind them!
Yeah, when the moved the tournament on YT I didn't really have a desire or drive to go see it.
The women’s championship tournament is actually better than the men’s championship tournament near the end of last year. Don’t get me wrong almost all the matches from the men’s were amazing matches (Penta v Fenix especially), but we always knew that at the end it was going to be Kenny v Hangman, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but it did take away from the suspense of who could win the tournament. With the women’s championship tournament, it seems that anyone in the tournament can actually win it. Also maybe it’s just me but it seems like there’s a lot of stories being set up within the women’s division thanks to this tournament and I would really be disappointed if nothing came to fruition after the revolution match.
Hey man, would you be open to making more videos of the negatives of AEW and what you believe they could do to change them? Anyways another banger video, i agree with all of it. Thunder vs Riho is a total missed opportunity not being on Dynamite.
I agree 100%
Thank you
I'm the first guy to criticize AEW and yet I like that the women's stuff is spread out and on different day's. More AEW the better, I'm watching it regardless, I enjoy it regardless. The complaining about the women is annoying at this point. Will there be tournament matches on Dynamite? Yes, the end. Either you're a fan and watch or you're not and then you're complaining to be a hater and at that point who cares.
This was actually a Stella match..not just good for the womens division as we've often said in aew..I throughly enjoyed it.and hopefully it's a huge step forward...but the women were always going to be the hardest division to grow as the net isnt as wide cast.women are relatively new to elite performance level compared to their male counterparts.its still growing among women.ans as it grows we will continue to see more women perform at the highest level...and to be honest,pro wrestling should give them the most equal playing field to compared to any other sport as its entertainment.and u work with you opponent.i have no stigmas against female wrestlers.but I'm also not going to ignore why uts not as progressed.im happy to watch any1,male or female as long as its top notch entertainment
4:30 Wouldn’t be the first time “cough” Cutler vs Avalon “cough”.
Yooo Luther with Serpentico is cash money! Throw em up!
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I would love if AEW booked the women for half of the shows Dynamite, Dark & all PPV's every other match and the co main event should always be AEW Woman's & Men's Championship...
& Give us women's tag team championship. I'll even take a woman's TNT championship. Just give us more women's matches!!!
Great job with this one.
I just wanna see maki itoh. Her gimmick is gold!
Riho vs thunder rosa couldn't only main event dynamite that is a ppv main event quality match
So it's not Omega/Brandi's fault. TNT are probably pushing for segments like Orange/Luther. And I respect all Luther did. And the segment wasn't long. But you could have booked the women there.
So when are we getting a Big Show video? 😆
I lost interest in the women's division in AEW not long after Riho left. It was really good then died down after the first year. This tournament-style contest really has me interested again!
Yeah honestly having squash matches instead of more women on TV is unacceptable and at a certain point excuses must fall on deaf ears..and i say this as a guy that if it wasn't for AEW would have stopped watching wrestling
hey Tranquilo Club maybe you can do a rival series when you can talk about aews main rivalry's you already started it
Tranquilo day!!
The big show just signed with AEW!
What's your reaction/opinion on this?
Swear, wish they'd just put the belt on Britt Baker already so everyone magically feel the division is fixed.
Having them on youtubenis preferred not on Bleacher Report
can u create character analysis for jungle boy - tarzan boy
As a person who tries to watch all the AEW content, why is it so crucial for things to show up on Dynamite specifically?
For me, watching cable is so much more of a hassle than TH-cam, so I wonder why it's seen as important.
And I'm not denying that it's important. I just really don't understand why.
Far far more people watch Dynamite than any of their TH-cam stuff, About 1/3 of the audience watched rd1 of the tournament and the number has dropped from there.
Well Said Man !!
Yeah if aew gives atleast 2 segments a dynamite episode then it will improve women's division a lot
Instead of squash matches give those top guys promo segments those squashes just break the momentum of entire show and if they let these talented ladies have atleast 2 segments it will be a great favour
They can deliver great matches and they will surely improve by the time
If aew from now on wards takes women's division seriously then in future dynamite show will be better than what we get today
Dynamite show is incomplete without a proper women's division
They have talent but is there even a storyline yeah rosa and baker thats it
So if women's division gets proper involvement in dynamite then only we will get a damn complete episode of dynamite with the balance of women's tag and male division and that will be better
Btw when will kris satlander will return she is also really talented
She appears in bte but when will she cone back it has been a year
But all in all give these ladies tv time and some legit storyline ...
It was planned badly. The tournament should have started before, they did it too late and due to the tv time they failed with this. Was disappointed to see the american bracket was on yt :( but Im sure after the tournament they will change this. Lets see what happens...
Completely ignorant opinion, but the problem with women's wrestling in AEW is the lack of sustained name-brand appeal. Outside of the us, the hardcore fans, who knows who Riho, Thunderosa, Britt Baker, or Sereena Deeb? Give the division 3-4 years, make 4-6 major womens stars, and incorporate womens division with the mens.
AEW does a superb job making factions, yet outside of Anna Jay, what female wrestler is in a faction? What boosted Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, and most importantly MJF was their inclusion in groups. AEW is not a promotion where single stars are meant to thrive, yet the women's division is left to its own devices.
Throw Tay Conti into a babyface group like the Inner Circle. It'd feel like they're pulling the trigger on a major push for her, does give her a decent rub, and puts her in the limelight. Have her feud with Sereena Deeb and have the pinnacle recruit her.
They should sign Tessa Blanchard if they are serious about what they promised at inception of this company.
Nobody wants that
Tessa is a toxic asset and probably will never be signed ESPECIALLY now that they have a working relationship with IMPACT
Dude Tessa is an awful person point blank I don't want her anywhere near AEW
@@alexisisanarieka4311 that why women's division is in shambles. First with riho everyone was complaining she's too small she lives in Japan then with nyla she's a man and now with Tessa. If they let her join WWE then Im done with this women's division. Imagine WWE rejecting Shawn Michaels because he was a douche. Which he actually was. Same for WCW rejecting Hogan . She's too big a talent to pass on. Tessa is the big X-factor they need. Plus people change with time and she has her dad and cage to check on her attitude. She's pretty close to Cage too.
@@SleightCreative dude she's just 24 everyone should get a second chance. Remember everyone acts like a dick in college. Also she might have matured as a human being after all those years.
SAY IT LOUDER
Aew dont even give the women's champion a promo or segment, I love aew but cmon.
That always bugged me & makes me sad that Shida's reign is probably coming to an end without ever giving her much of a character building opportunity.
@@Lo_Key90 yeah hopefully it changes soon
Anyone would rather see a Penelope Ford match than a Jake Hager match, let's be honest.
I love luther tbh
In my opinion he sucks really bad but I can sort of see why you do and I respect your opinion
I feel like he's in a good role as a semi jobber
The women's division is going to be fine. The matches throughout the tourney have all been top tier and there were 16 women in the field. All of them highlighted, idk what more you need them to do. You couldn't have the entire tourney on Dynamite in time for Revolution. They had 8 matches. Every other tourney you mentioned had like 4 matches to do.
hell yeah
One thing is for sure. When you win the AEW women's championship, you're gonna disappear.
They had to scatter it due to 3 major things. 1st the Japanese production was not TNT level, 2nd many of these matches include non signed talent, and 3 the contracts prevent some of these wrestlers from being on certain platforms.
From what I've heard about the tournament... the reason the tournament's been done the way it has... the blame can be put on TNT for that, actually (the biggest bit of evidence for that was the Kenny Omega tweet calling for people to yell at TNT and support the tournament and show there IS a market for it). Between TNT not liking the production of the Japanese leg of the tournament and the fact they feel like women's wrestling isn't a draw (since it normally doesn't do so hot in the quarter rating breakdown... largely because the women's matches usually fall in the graveyard slot), they kinda fucked AEW in that regard, so AEW was forced to have to put most of it on TH-cam and now Bleacher Report. If it were up to AEW, it would've been on TV wholly, but they're at the mercy of the network. I mean, it took WWE literally DECADES to get the sort of sway they have with networks: AEW isn't going to get that with only a few years in the business, unfortunately.
I give the women's division some harsh criticism. But thats because they have a lot to prove over the pedigree of the men's division. they need to find their own place. an i would say they have. I only skip the women's division because the support for them at ringside is annoying and soul grating. thats it. even then i watch more often than not. The women work very fucking hard. and the supports have their reasons for being there and why they do what they do. I hate Vicky. but i love that she is there. doing her thing. making me hate her :P
Nyla rose going over Tai Conti killed all my interest
Nyla was a dominant force, they needed her to win to push Britt Baker more for the women's world championship.
@@bossmafia9008 so? I'm bored of her and wanted either conti or Riho to win.
The reason why they did doesn't matter to me, I wanted conti to get pushed so now I lost interest.
@@SoulFistGaming Ok, Conti can get push but she's not ready for that push yet. Britt's time is now, Riho could win as well tbh. I mean they are messing up some stuff in AEW but it makes perfect sense for Nyla to win that match to go against Britt since Nyla is a former AEW women's champion, it will boost Britt Baker more into a draw for the women's division in AEW. Tay Conti is young and will have her moment soon. And besides, it's just one win and Nyla is gonna lose anyways.
@@SoulFistGaming Fuck, I was wrong. I thought they were gonna book Britt to win, so now I'm pissed.
@@bossmafia9008 I already knew nyla was gonna win when she beat conti
She might lose in the finals or we'll get nyla vs shida again
As I stated before I'm bored and done with nyla rose and she killed all my interest
The men's matches took place on TV because people wanted to watch them. The women's tournament can't carry an audience. WWE has the best of the best in women's talent and they can't carry a 2 hour show. Womens wrestling isn't the draw that men's is. I know we're not allowed to tell the truth when it comes to race or gender today, but women can't carry a show on their own.
Yes sirrrrrr
I personally blame Tony Khan, he comes off like a fan of wrestling like you and me, but if you think about it he is a big fan of early NWA days, NJPW and ECW
and what exactly do all of those have in common...
I mean TNT probably doesn't help
I think the problem now it's the time. So now they are creating the second show but in youtube. Let's see what happens. I give them the reasonable doubt.
"By putting something on TH-cam, you're saying it can't be on Dynamite". Ummm.... no, that's not what that means at all. They're spreading their content throughout many different platforms, because that's how AEW fans consume media. We aren't in the 50+ demo
The Monday TH-cam shows where a baseline to see how elevation would work....so is the Sunday BR show.
I disagree with matches like this being on youtube i dont have cable but i do have internet and watch on my phone it doesn't take anything away
Honestly I don't care about women wrestling so good luck to everyone else on getting these women more screen time
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