Fasstco Flexx handlebars review︱Cross Training Enduro
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LONG TERM COMMENTS I used these bars for a few years before selling them with one of my bikes (Why? See below). Zero issues, worked great. Their main competitor, Twisted Engineering, now put a more flexible version of their x3 bar which is called the x4... naturally. It may be worth looking at. th-cam.com/video/Sj9vE6mimJk/w-d-xo.html
WHY DID I SELL THE BARS? viewer asked me why I didn't seem to be using either set of flexible bars anymore. When I hit my 50s, I was having quite a few issues with my hands and fingers when adventure riding but especially enduro riding. I was trying all sorts of solutions (see our arm pump video) and these bars were part of that.
Mysteriously it's much improved now I'm in my 60s when I was expecting it to get worse... my doc said I had 'pre-arthritic' fingers and it would only get worse lol. I suspect it might just be my riding technique has improved. I'm wasting less energy. I'm gripping the bike more with my legs. And the Steg Pegz have been a huge improvement.
So why did I ditch both sets of bars? I've always tried to keep things simple and only use mods and bling if it really helps. So the bars were sold off with various bikes. Of course I might wind buying them again if the arthritis kicks in.
I have been racing with them for a year now and riding ,best bars out there and they don't bend like normal bars would ,give them a call very nice people and great racer support !
Believe it. They make such a huge difference in your arms and hands and just saving overall energy riding.
Old vid, but thanks for making it!!
I lost my Balance 2 years ago(Fn stroke), riding has been near nil, but I can now ride on a dirt road for 30 minutes once a week. Last ride I got arm pump Soooooo bad, then the shoulder pain started. I was on a new to me ktm 350, non blinged up. I traded bikes with my daughter, she has BRP rubber mounted handlebars and a BLINGGY Scotts stabo, instant relief!!!!!!!!
I'm going to add a scott's to my new bike(yes it's pretty too!!), and I'm going to try some Flexx bars, I'm sure they will help me. The Mako 360 looks nice to, now I just have to work out fitment of the HDB handguards.
i hope they make a big difference, brad! check the link at the end, there is another brand that is lighter but doesn't offer quite the same degree of flex...
Thanks for the review! I have been wondering about the Flexx bars.
Im new to your channel but it's great big help! Thanks for the videos. Keep up the good work
There is a downside to these bars. Every bike you ride without them feels too rigid! Awesome product.
Awesome! Thanks for the carpal tunnel prospective.
twisted engineering have just brought out their 4x bend bar. hopefully we'll test this soon but if it can be made as flexible as the fasstco bars then these would be the best bar imho....
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Cool. Will stay tuned.Building a pile of parts in the meantime.
Thanks for sharing. Love all your videos.
I love Flexx bars. Work great
Im getting me a set for one of my 500 two strokes. My right arm gets tingly and pains in it at night more so after riding, i think this should help a lot. Thanks for your videos as always keep up the videos we enjoy them.
i hope it does the trick... i assume you've tried other fixes, chatted with your doctor etc?
GREAT simple Honest review,
Thank you Very much.
That jarring sounds exactly like what I've experienced on my '14 Beta 300.
There's something seriously wrong with the mid valve on the Betas. My '13 KTM 450 XCW doesn't do it to me at all... so I agree to sort suspension first. Seriously considering sending my stuff to Alan Stillwell to get it done, but it's a big commitment from this part of the world.
+Ian Henderson my suspension mob put the sachs rear shock on their shock dyno and said it's one of the best stock shocks they've seen. sadly the sachs forks are taking longer to get right although they tweak them each year. reviews suggested there was finally a big improvement on the 2015 forks and i'd have to agree... mine were sweet but the suspension shop managed to improve on them a bit. there are some good suspension discussions on the betarider forum.
Good review, thx!
nice review.... what clutch lever are you using? stock perch? Does the BETA use brembo like the KTM?
+Tyler Alphonso it was a midwest lever which reduced the pull by about a third but it still wasn't enough for my old fingers so i went the clake one light clutch.... it reduces the pull by about 70% and without using extra leverage. th-cam.com/video/5gQGY2quL8k/w-d-xo.html
I'm developing cyclists palsy and I'm thinking of investing in these. Going to try oury grips, padded gloves and a bar sweep change first seeing as that's pretty cheap to do
You might the tips in our 'arm pump' video handy too, Jonno
Did you stay with the soft rubbers or did you try the others?
Stayed with the softest ones, Steve. Other guys I know did as well but I think most riders would if they just potter around at lower speed like us. Eventually though I went with the Twisted Engineering 4X flex bars as they are so much lighter. We spend a lot of time lifting our bikes through snotty terrain!
Love your work!!! Have you tried the PHDS from KTM or Husqvarna? Or Mako 360?? Jus curious of your thoughts??
Thanks in advanced!!!
I don't know, Scott. What's a PHDS?
Thanks for the review, which bars did you buy (rise/sweep etc)? I'm considering buying, but unsure of the choices!
+UKEnduroRider no idea unfortunately, i took advantage of their ergonomics service and just described myself and the riding i was into, then they put together a package. if the paperwork listed what the parts were i seem to have lost it already... :(
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS the sweep is written on the bar.. near the elastomers
Oooohhhh buuuuoooyyyy....... Just as I'm trying to justify my failing manhood by hooning my YZ490 trials bike, you tempt me with this.....Now I'm going to have to go find a concrete post for bars .... unwilling to admit the superiority of real modern day technology....... You temptor you..... and that bloody red Italian Temptress.......
+MrDuhfactor lol i actually realized i'm reviewing an awful lot of stuff so in the next vid i've got a bit about training being the ultimate thing... all these bits of bling might make a rider more comfortable, or actually help a bit with riding, but learning good technique will always be the biggest factor. e.g. just learning to not do the death grip on the bars will probably be a bigger improvement than buying flexx bars.
How much do the bars reduce carpal tunnel symptoms? My hand is numb within minutes on my 2009 300. I have been contemplating getting a 4 stroke just to reduce vibes. Great video. Thanks.
impossible to say cameron... i'd try all the cheap easy solutions first and if it's still not much help fork out the money and see if the bars to the trick.
Get the surgery!..I had CT in both hands and until I had the surgery, everything else is just a band-aid..With that said, I'm seriously thinking of buying these bars..
which is what?
I know this is an old video. But what all have you been doing to combat the carparal tunnel syndrome? I have it and I've been trying practically everything.. thanks!°
I would be keen to hear what others have come up with. I'm glad to say I rarely encounter it any more... after a very hard ride I might wake up in the middle of the night with that tingling sensation but I just put on a cheap wrist brace and it's all good again. Usually I try to remember to put the brace on when I go to sleep. Mine was a no name brand one from Ebay for $10. Great investment. It just keeps your wrist straight while asleep so prevents the tingles in mild cases.
which specific model of Flexx Handlebars are you using? size and angle? do it help with taking the front wheel from the grand when you are in a stopped situation and you want to rotate the bike on the rear tire? I have a KTM 350EXC-F 2016. Thank you
i can't remember andre, i used those bars a long time ago. 😢 the bars did not have any impact on pivot turns.
@@crosstrainingenduro OK thanks, after some months, the bar was resistant and strong enough to be dropped several times? What are you using now?
Six years on, what is your opinion of these bars?
If we have any long term comments we put them in the pinned first comment, George.
I love you guys 😂
when you want to load up the front suspension do the flexx bars still give you good feedback?
never really thought about it dan... you can feel them bend a little but it's never been an issue
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hi. which model of the flexx bar did you choose for your beta? i also have a beta 300rr and thinking of buying either the flexx or the TE bar. like you i also prefer the slow, technical riding.. which system would be better ?
went with the one they recommended, they'll do this for everyone. there's a link at the end to a comparison of the two bars.
thanks!
You ever combine Flexx bars with GPR or Scotts stabilizer? If you don't think it's necessary let me know.. I'm curious how it would handle with the combined combo.
only ever ridden with a stabilizer once and reported on that in a vid. :)
What clutch lever were you using?
+Murray Robinson stock lever initially. was waiting for the clake guy to come to my hometown to fit the clake 2 and got a midwest clever lever to lighten the clutch a bit in the meantime. then had issues fitting the clake 2, so put on a clake ONE light clutch for the time being.
The problem I'm having is using them with a Scotts steering damper..Both products have there benefits but it makes the front end feel bulky..I need to pick one or the other and be done with it..Any opinions?
there was an option shown in the links at the end
Found that option here: th-cam.com/video/7nNTvaYp8mE/w-d-xo.html Its a good one..Thanks.
How do they compare to the Twisted Engineering composiflex bars? Do you favour one over the other?
i put a link at the end of this vid comparing them
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I see you don't use these anymore. Reasons as to why?
I was having quite a few issues with my hands and fingers when adventure riding but especially enduro riding. I was trying all sorts of solutions (see our arm pump video) and these bars were part of that. Mysteriously it's actually got better in recent years when I was expecting it to get worse... my doc said I had 'pre-arthritic' fingers and it would only get worse lol. I suspect it might just be my riding technique has improved. I'm wasting less energy. I'm gripping the bike more with my legs. And the Steg Pegz have been a huge improvement.
What's the issue with fitting the almighty Clake2?
+Russell Oliver the hydraulic line just hits the pivoting part of the mechanism enough to be an issue sadly. looking at ways around this, i really don't want to have to ditch the flexx bars. :(
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES, shoot me a picture of what the interference is and I'll find you a solution. We have different widths, and handle lengths so we should have something that will work for all your components. Thanks, Cole
+Cole Townsend cool, thanks for the offer cole. i suspect that bar ends with more sweep would clear but was reluctant to go that option as i'm so tall i prefer the straightest bars possible to get more room on the bike. i've put a clake ONE light clutch on for the time being and enjoying that hugely, it just means i haven't got the hand operated rear brake of the TWO setup.
hey would you be able to explain the benefits of getting your suspension fitted for you I'm am a small rider riding a wr250f but i only weigh 60KG and i can hardly touch the ground so would there be any point on changing my suspension and if i was to would i get less ground clearance that's half the reason why i got a big bike.
+Regboy2011 already got a suspension article on the website, not sure if we'll do an actual video as well...
+Regboy2011 I have a Honda CRF450X, I'm 168cm tall and weigh 77kgs, I had no way of touching the ground so I had the suspension lowered 50mm and cut an inch out of my seat. The little you lose in ground clearance is more than made up for in confidence at putting my feet down. I would've dropped it countless times in the gnarly terrain possibly given it away, but I love it and cant wait to get out there as much as I can.
Which one would you chose on a 2017 FE 501 or large like bike i.e EXC 500
A) Steg Pegz B) Flexx Handlebars C) Both?
exactly what i have my current large dirt bike
hahaha you are a true adventure rider! You just can't stop "farkling" can you???
+JoeJoe Moto yup, turning into the king of bling! hoping this stuff can ensure my fingers (if not entire body) don't pack it in too quickly and leave with scooters or harleys as my only riding option lol....
How would you rate these against the Twisted Engineering bars?
+CALDERA MOTO we emailed TE a few times but couldn't get a reply. as far as we can work out, the TE bars would be lighter, but not have the adjustment options. the flexx bars on flex in the same direction as your front suspension whereas the TE bars flex in all directions... we can't say whether that would be a good thing or not without trying them.
I have both bar systems... and I think I am going back to Flexx. the Twisted uses their own handguards that are flimsy and bend on a small drop. but the Twisted are light! but there's not enough movement like the Flexx so your wrists are still sore at the end of a ride. I don't like how the Flexx have nowhere to install any accessories like a GPS or Roll Chart on dual sport rides. but I mount things onto the handguard bar so it's not a big deal.
I have both, I like my flex bars better, just my two cents.
Still good? My carpal tunnel is getting worse each ride.
i sold them with my DR650 ages back but they were still working well. i've got the twisted engineering ones on my dirt bike now. they don't have the same degree of flex available or the adjustability but they are a lot lighter.
@@crosstrainingenduro My hands are going numb when I ride. (I know what people will say as far as riding technique) I have carpal tunnel syndrome pretty severe according to my doc...just looking for some options. Picked up a pair of Stegz which will be here in a couple weeks and then thinking about ordering some of these bars...
i recently mounted a new bar, and bent it within 5 minutes of my first ride with it. I. Was. Pissed. I'm thinking that this might alleviate my bar bending problem.....? My DR650 weighs like, a million pounds/kilos (just call it Kilos) and the first time i dumped it, that lead weighted bike bent that fat bar like it was made of tin. Would this flexibar stand up to laying down a DR650 and be ok? Seriously though, i am all sorts of upset about bending a brand new bar within 5 minutes on the first ride. When i buy a new bar, its just gonna happen again on my first dump... HELP!!!
Haha it sounds like an expensive exercise
+65elcamino283 i know how heavy a DR is when it comes down, due to four snapped metatarsals in my foot. :( the stock steel bars are known for bending if you breathe on them heavily, so any aftermarket bar is going to be way better (did you replace your bent ones with stock bars again?).
whether a flexible bar would be less prone to break i don't know... it doesn't seem to be a claim that flexx (faastco) or twisted engineering make. i guess one advantage of a flexx bar would be you would probably only be replacing one section of the bars if you did bend them?
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES the new bar that i bent was the Fly Racing Aero Taperd thick walled bar. I only slid the back end out and lay'd the bike down in first gear. The bike laid down and the bar was bent forward and up. This 360 Lb pig seams like it will bend ANY bar that is on it when it's laid down. I'm thinking that the flex bars would be good to let them flex and take the brunt. I hope...?
+65elcamino283 maybe... the flexx bars only flex inline with the forks though. the twisted engineering ones bend in all directions (interesting that both claim theirs is better) so might provide a bit of extra protection against bending? either are very expensive options though. :(
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES yeah, with my gumby ass laying my bike down on regular intervals, replacing the expensive bar parts might not be a good idea when A new Fly bar is only $50. I guess i just need to consider my handlebar a Consumable...
I really need your help dude! I am a tattoo artist and I need to keep my hands healthy haha! I e mailed fasstco giving information about my bar. They told me their highest bar is the Moto High. Which bend did you get? You needed the rox risers? I am 172 cm tall and I ride LOTS of rocky sessions that are killers for my hands!
+Enduro Depravation actually i'm not sure what bend they gave me, they just asked a pile of questions then assembled the bar accordingly. they seem to really know their stuff. i scrapped my roxx risers recently... our coach, chris birch, said they work against you as you get into more advanced techniques and seems he was right, not missing them at all now. i'm 194cm.
Thank you very much! I had the same feel about risers, so now I know that is true!
So if you are that tall and you don't use risers I can do the same without issues :)
Grazie mille CTEC&ET ;)
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+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES Im interested in why they get in the way (the roxx risers). Im a tall freak too and I always have to put risers and lower foot pegs on my bikes. Maybe I should stop?
It has to do with front end cornering. Risers take weight off the front wheel and rob you of the leverage you need to weight the front end for cornering....Google it and see what the coaches say about risers. I have both the Roxx Risers and FaastFlexxBars on my KDX220, love them, but when I do my fork swap this week, the risers are coming off the KDX and onto my VStrom! I'm in the process of buying a second set of Flexx Bars for my new build!
I use A 1977 honda XL75 as my trials bike....yes im serious. these could help quite a lot with that I think.
+Luke Visscher there used to be a trail bike class in many trials clubs, i reckon it should be brought back in. :)
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES Yes that would be great. Although it almost looks more like a trials bike anyways....completely stripped of extra stuff not even an airbox just A cone filter!
Still using these?
No I swung over to the Twisted Engineering Composi-flex bars eventually.
Uh oh... Like I haven't spent enough dinero on the pumpkin princess already! Just like that trophy wife I never had, I have found myself struggling with the impulse to buy beautiful things for her to gain her approval. While most of the small fortune I've expended on the APP (Austrian Pumpkin Princess... Keep up with me here!) has been for extremely useful items #bestdualsportbikes.com, a few have been not so much. #uselessbilletgascap
I've been curious about the Flexx bars for some time however, since they've been popular with certain (aging) American dirt bike journalists for a while. But yours is the most comprehensive review and I may be on the verge of popping the big question on the APP! (...Should I buy Flexx bars?)
Besides cost is the issue of hand guards. I'm very fond of my Highway Dirt Bike guards and mirrors, fitted with BDSB dead ends (anti-vibe). I am not above modifying the HDB guards to fit, but I need to find out if they're in the range first.
Thank you again Mr. Morris for sharing your experience and insight with us! And congratulations to all you Aussies on leading the 2015 ISDE on day 2. Team USA lead as of last night, and is only 8 seconds behind. But it looks to be between the two colonies for the 2015 ISDE World Trophy. Good on ya mate! (Did I get that right?)
+gncc1race onya mate... or on ya mate! yep, the boys are doing well, i wonder if the girls will come first again as they did last year. doing us proud, woohoo!
il bling y mucho dinero, no? i think i might need to annotate that flexx review, sometimes just learning to avoid the death grip can be the biggest improvement. i think the flexx bars mainly come into their own when you know your body positioning and riding technique is good, but you are still facing issues with the hands, wrists, arms and/or shoulders. i'd hate to be responsible for your impending bankruptcy. :)
Si, si... !Demasiado dinero por los blings, est cierto! Pero vale la pena, ?no? (I had to get help with that one!)
I struggle with death grip too at times, and constantly seek to adjust body position, riding technique and suspension, all of which you do mention. And the onset of death grip can certainly be purely mental as well.
But usually when you feel like you have to over grip the bars to keep them in your hands, there's a reason.
So bars that widen the margin of comfort in those circumstances become hugely attractive...
And yes, it looks like the Aussie Junior and Women's teams are far ahead of the other teams and both seem headed for a first this year! Hmmm... Is this Cross Training thing some kind of Aussie conspiracy to dominate world off-road racing?!
Hmmm...
+gncc1race, Flexx Handlebars will work with most HDB guards. Shoot us an email with the model you have and we'll get you sorted out. Thanks for the interest in #FlexxHandlebars.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES, @gncc1race, we spend more time sorting out riders ergos than any other brand. We're happy to go over your particulars, ask you questions and be sure we match you with the bar bend that will best fit your ergo needs.
At 600 bucks plus handguards... you'll never wipeout again cuz your so afraid to bend them. So they absolutely make you a better rider.
ouch, $600 now?! yeah i don't think i'd fork out that much. 😥
where is Betty Beta??!! ;-)
+Borgfeld Rider she's quite shy and has said she'll only appear in the occasional vid. brian beta offered to stand in but i politely declined. :)
Tell em the price son.
+paul dav in which currency for which countries? and then regularly check in to see if they've changed prices in various countries and keep updating the video? just easier if anyone interested visits the website link i put at the end of the vid, or does a google search.
In AUD. Didn't realise you could only buy online.
+paul dav there's a link to the australian distributor in the video description... quad squad in melbourne.