Jocko Podcast 187 w/ Dave Berke: Principles, Tactics, and Creativity Dominates

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  • @PaulAllen8.30
    @PaulAllen8.30 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Could you get Clint Emerson on the podcast? He was in SEAL team 3, DVGRU (team 6) and an agent for the NSA. He is the author of 100 deadly skills, a book that teaches skills for survival.

  • @TheXabl0
    @TheXabl0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Is Jocko ACTUALLY more relaxed without Echo or is Echo SO relaxed that he makes Jocko seem tense?

    • @midlife3581
      @midlife3581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Dichotomy

    • @onlycasual1
      @onlycasual1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      His demeanor changes depending on the guest. Obviously he's gonna be more relaxed with a buddy on the podcast than someone he met the first time that morning. It's normal human behavior.

    • @brunojake099
      @brunojake099 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheXabl0 😂😂

    • @TheBCSledder
      @TheBCSledder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The dynamic will naturally be different between certain people, especially since these guys went to war together.

  • @soapalot
    @soapalot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Top Shelf content here. Dave makes a great sounding board for Jocko; he has succinct and insightful contributions to the conversation. This episode was richer because of his inclusion.

  • @christianmadden1301
    @christianmadden1301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Good deal Dave?

  • @bcharles9605
    @bcharles9605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    When i saw the thumbnail at first, i thought that was a hello guys it's Jeff Cavaliere from Athlean-x. com

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s Maverick from Top Gun

    • @arielramirezpr94
      @arielramirezpr94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BCHARLES 911 Ha u forgot the .com😅

    • @bcharles9605
      @bcharles9605 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arielramirezpr94 hahaha, sorry for that. I will get it corrected right away.

    • @TomTheMaleMan
      @TomTheMaleMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thought we were about to get 3 hours of Face Pull talk!

    • @jimmyg5408
      @jimmyg5408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Athlean-x wouldn’t have a T-shirt on

  • @jeremiahjohnson9899
    @jeremiahjohnson9899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I pulled out my copy of MCDP 1-3 Tactics and just followed along.

  • @jzo08
    @jzo08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I do miss Echo, but it is a nice change with a casual conversation between two people who have seen war first-hand. Great podcast!

  • @andrewmeschter3205
    @andrewmeschter3205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This conversation is ehffing brilliant. Jocko moves through the text line by line like a preacher teaching scripture.

  • @tictacteague
    @tictacteague 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "A battalion is made of up individuals, the least important of whom may chance to delay things or make them go wrong." - Carl von Clausewitz
    In other words: "Leeroyyyyyyy Jeeeeeeenkiiiiiiiins!"

  • @andrewwoods9087
    @andrewwoods9087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    David and Jocko have fantastic tactics. Awesome together

  • @ally9953
    @ally9953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started from episode 1 now I'm in 33. Still got a ways to go.
    The more I listen, the more I feel patriotic and proud to be an American. I used to wake up at 6 am, Now I'm up at 5am.
    Get some!

  • @LuistheABF123
    @LuistheABF123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Any chance you can get Nate Fick on the podcast?

  • @gaylordpantamime
    @gaylordpantamime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    IM HERE TO LEARN

  • @XxP4B10
    @XxP4B10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm 20 years old and I just finished way of the warrior kid, I really liked I thought that because it was for kids I couldn't get much of it but I certainly did, awesome book

  • @lcobb5214
    @lcobb5214 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Full of useful lessons! Had to listen to this twice. The vast majority of podcasts don't even come close!

  • @dionthomas5418
    @dionthomas5418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It always good to talk about win battles tactics and creativity

  • @parkerjeans5777
    @parkerjeans5777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The only time I watch ads all the way through is on this podcast.

    • @williamshoffstall3902
      @williamshoffstall3902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here bro. Gotta help out ppl that deserve it.

    • @eddymunster3938
      @eddymunster3938 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamshoffstall3902 hope my 10 a month (premium) helps!
      Kinda wonder what helps more.. especially if TH-cam is my 'social media' .. more like cheap education

  • @Motorman2112
    @Motorman2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    No Echo? How will we know how Jaaacked he is?

    • @officialyoutubecommentator4357
      @officialyoutubecommentator4357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      No doubt Echo is in the process of getting some bigger arms; He will be the Jackest we've ever seen him.

    • @raimundosilva4382
      @raimundosilva4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🇧🇷🧔💃🏿💃🏿🌹💪💪🏼💪💪💪💪💪👌🚀👌🚀👌🚀👌🚀💋🚀💋🚀💋🚀💋🚀💋🚀💋🚀🌹🚀🌹🚀👌🚀🌹🚀👌

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who gives af

    • @TheBCSledder
      @TheBCSledder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@officialyoutubecommentator4357 Maybe he should spend some time working on his skinny knees instead 😂

    • @AngryOscillator
      @AngryOscillator 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      google earth

  • @andrewmeschter3205
    @andrewmeschter3205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...and Dave's summaries are priceless. The Marine Corps perspective feels more relatable and less esoteric than the SEAL perspective.

  • @LRRPFco52
    @LRRPFco52 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patton was really good at recognizing windows of combat opportunities and exploiting them with intense focus and speed, pushing his forces to reach higher than they had before and accomplish objectives that were thought to be unobtainable by his peers and superiors.
    I also think it's good to start out your IADs and playbook with 3 well-rehearsed drills, then expand to 5 and practice them often. Once you get into a combat rhythm and the enemy adapts to that rhythm, you can switch to another approach he wasn't expecting and throw him off base again so that you're constantly inside his decision-making process until he is spent.

  • @Ipolitoperro
    @Ipolitoperro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m sure you heard this before but you have inspired me and I got up,Stronger than ever thank you brother,Really thank you 🙏

  • @midlife3581
    @midlife3581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Intuition is when you are committed to Never Taking Time Off but then something inside leads you to accept a vacation which turns into a lead you'd never have come across otherwise.

  • @matthewkornder5586
    @matthewkornder5586 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode. I downloaded the pub and followed along. My Marines will be listening and reading this deployment.

  • @liveupmatt
    @liveupmatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW the difference between Tactical and Strategic gave me an entirely new lenses to look at the world with. Being pretty competitive I have a hard time backing down - even when tactically I lose leadership capital to get a victory.

  • @lukkycharmz4828
    @lukkycharmz4828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know if you can get Molk and Go in Canada(stores), without it being delivered to your house from the US?

  • @professorcanonizado6822
    @professorcanonizado6822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Echo visiting his biceps in Hawaii! Go get some brah!

  • @mortyross
    @mortyross 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Interesting & Thought Provocative ! Thank You

  • @jvv1786
    @jvv1786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good Deal Dave.

  • @samgraham2110
    @samgraham2110 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    32:32 A good point to that comes from the book "The Mission, Men, and Me" by Pete Blaber. The author discussed the lack of situational context that comes from gaining intelligence from simple satellite images. The author also added that it is outright dangerous to commit troops against an enemy without developing the situation and context through thorough ground reconnaissance. Gotta talk to the guys on the ground.

  • @AbirTarafdar
    @AbirTarafdar ปีที่แล้ว

    I got so much from this. Thanks guys. Amazing stuff. 👍🏽

  • @jackaubrey8184
    @jackaubrey8184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave Berke: Marine Corps Pilot, Top Gun pilot, Top Gun Instructor, Top Gun Senior instructor, 1st CO of the F-35 Operational Squadron, Cdr. of Air Naval Gunfire Liaison Company (ANGLICO) in Rahmadi - TU Bruiser, Team Member of Echelon Front... He flew F-18, F-16, F-22, F-35.
    What's up next? - A mission to Mars? lol

  • @zekeanthony
    @zekeanthony 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get some, a very special 187

  • @robx87
    @robx87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So grateful Jocko started this podcast , endless amount of invaluable info . Makes you wonder which two bozos disliked 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @troym33
    @troym33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I absolutely hated during my four year in the Corps was the phrase “don’t ask why!” If you weren’t a robot and you asked why we were doing something a certain way then you were labeled immediately. Toward the end of my enlistment I didn’t mind Marines asking me why we were doing something. I wanted them to understand the overall objective so they could think on their feet if something went wrong and make a judgment call on what to do next to meet said objective. I hope the Marine Corps is getting out of that mentality and it sounds like they are.

  • @Ninj-gw1qu
    @Ninj-gw1qu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #bringEchoBack

  • @IslamicRageBoy
    @IslamicRageBoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great. Feel more optimistic and patriotic now

  • @mcsranch6760
    @mcsranch6760 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great one! The clear sheet over the map? Acetate! 😂 The writing was symbology rolled into IPB.... used to geek out so hard over all of it.

  • @Bathaling
    @Bathaling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good deal dave

  • @SnuffsEnough
    @SnuffsEnough 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aw yeahhhh.......cant get enough if these.....

  • @Michael-tz3jw
    @Michael-tz3jw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    watching from brazil! working hard to understand everything you guys said, my English is not so good :)

    • @BetaBuxDelux
      @BetaBuxDelux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Michael You can always slow the video down. That might help.

    • @Michael-tz3jw
      @Michael-tz3jw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BetaBuxDelux Thanks for the tip. I will use it.

    • @rdenHotEd
      @rdenHotEd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AlphaDog Elite3 bom trabalho cara!

    • @BetaBuxDelux
      @BetaBuxDelux 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kristoffer P Thanks!

  • @1322239
    @1322239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like your comments...is it possible to add subtitles?

  • @BostonsF1nest
    @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good evening Maverick

  • @BostonsF1nest
    @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    “What’s up with fighting in World War I and World War II?” 😂😂 ikr that sounds so ridiculous

  • @mortyross
    @mortyross 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jocko, do you ever get frustrated like I do when you have to deal with others who can not think outside of the box ? What is the best way to deal with them.

  • @davidkeel5062
    @davidkeel5062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2 warriors still serving the country. You should start a university

  • @cisoperez9423
    @cisoperez9423 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Topgun/good deal Dave and Jocko are awesome:)

  • @hekkenschutz
    @hekkenschutz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God bless

  • @lauriedmills7581
    @lauriedmills7581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish there was one of these for women. Real women. There is a war among our own kind and it vicious.

    • @jvrerae8512
      @jvrerae8512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you elaborate? Also I'd love to start "one of these for woman" if you'd like to join reply and I'll leave u the discord workteam

    • @rdenHotEd
      @rdenHotEd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes please elaborate. I don’t have the perspective you’ve got - I’m a man - but I have noticed some ways in which women would be better off with some gender-specific tactical advice.

    • @vincentrepins5825
      @vincentrepins5825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      they're meant for thespians

    • @vincentrepins5825
      @vincentrepins5825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      commandant

  • @sililly1379
    @sililly1379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the email address to send my question to?

  • @rosejudge398
    @rosejudge398 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good deal 🤙

  • @jabuticaba2000
    @jabuticaba2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    *jocko! do wes watson (ex con). ty for your show and book*

    • @samurai74785
      @samurai74785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would love this

    • @4everdoma
      @4everdoma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why?

    • @jabuticaba2000
      @jabuticaba2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@4everdoma different paths similar lessons. thats why.

    • @samurai74785
      @samurai74785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Both been through adversity, both have hardcore mindsets. Both changing lives.

    • @4everdoma
      @4everdoma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jabuticaba2000 Other than one musician, all of Jocko's guests are military. And, although 10 years in prison is certainly tough, it is no comparison to special forces action.

  • @tookyourcandy
    @tookyourcandy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would really love for you to have nick koumalatsos on he podcast hes A single vaccine dose administered orally. Former marine raider and authour as well as acurrent youtuber discussing varoius topics about life and fitness I think that would be A single vaccine dose administered orally. Great episode.

  • @matthewaguigui6565
    @matthewaguigui6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jocko I wanted to know what you think about the Navy Seals that got sent back home from iraq for their misbehavior. If you would upload a video of your thoughts that would be interesting to hear.

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They all drink while deployed, only difference is they got caught

  • @TheFi1thyCasual
    @TheFi1thyCasual 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great podcast! Wish I could get our management team to listen to this.

  • @MegaSumit
    @MegaSumit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which book are they referring to

  • @thundergrace
    @thundergrace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mcd313 tacti??

  • @calumhales5716
    @calumhales5716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When are you gunna get David Goggins on the podcast!!!!!!!

    • @memyselfandI90001
      @memyselfandI90001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      why?

    • @calumhales5716
      @calumhales5716 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it’s David goggins ....

    • @memyselfandI90001
      @memyselfandI90001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@calumhales5716 it's a very ego centric person, not really a good fit for this podcast. Careless and self destructive, he achieved nothing in a group.

    • @calumhales5716
      @calumhales5716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vadim Tudor feel sorry for TH-cam comment haters

    • @brianholguin6338
      @brianholguin6338 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      13 K goggins is all about self development he’s not a leader because he doesn’t believe in holding peoples hands or coddling them he’s very open about that fact so yeah jocko would never have him on lol plus goggins says he wasn’t one of the guys in the seals that drink with the crew he’s very introverted. he’s not even humble enough to be on here im sure jockos a bit jealous too because goggins is an overachiever

  • @DanielBarron45
    @DanielBarron45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Echo needs his own pod.

  • @andrewwoods9087
    @andrewwoods9087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MC is great leadership school !! I like that real life battle fights are included with leadership advice

  • @bigshock4674
    @bigshock4674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be cool to see Dan Inosanto on here with Jocko.

  • @christighe656
    @christighe656 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else print out MCDP 1-3 and take notes? Or, am I the only one?

  • @goodfoot7926
    @goodfoot7926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The things that makes Americans great at combat is the individualism of the American soldier to think outside of the box on his own to overcome the enemy without having to get approval from higher ups in the command chain that dictatorial, communist or socialist governments demand of their forces because that they are conscript forces or lack of trust of their own command structure.

  • @majmack551
    @majmack551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You gotta know the numbers, but you need the techniques. No substitute for both.

  • @curiousskeptic9064
    @curiousskeptic9064 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need Steven Rinella Or Adam Greentree on the podcast Adam has done some pretty hardcore hunts were he didn’t leave the woods until he harvested an animal

  • @Yeah_na
    @Yeah_na 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need reminding... how do I get a coworker out of a rut? They’re depressed, dragging their feet, no motivation and it’s making me angry... angry because Jocko would be able to straighten them out, but I don’t know how to... I’m also not that motivated to help them... but it’s my job...

    • @jkockler
      @jkockler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe start with taking them to lunch and asking them what's wrong. See if they'll open up in a non judgmental/off the record environment. You can't address a problem if you don't know the problem.

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fire them

  • @LivermooreJesse965ud
    @LivermooreJesse965ud 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MORE VETS ON THE PODCAST plz sir

  • @robertdug495
    @robertdug495 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Complacency bad!, team work good!

  • @thundergrace
    @thundergrace 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Six days no podcast! on vacation?

  • @teddymargoles5829
    @teddymargoles5829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Single tear drops at the news echo is gone....

    • @TheBCSledder
      @TheBCSledder 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope it was in your non shooting eye.

  • @scottyou5443
    @scottyou5443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jocko's paint brush is a machine gun

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Picasso’s machine gun is a paint brush

  • @thundergrace
    @thundergrace 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been 6 days of no podcast..on vacation?

  • @thundergrace
    @thundergrace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Discipline go? Get those at the store!!!?

  • @DaRabbiit
    @DaRabbiit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does Jocko "get after it" when he dreams?

  • @thewize
    @thewize 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Echo lookin JAAAACCCKKKKKKKED!

  • @泰勒-u1h
    @泰勒-u1h 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually thought that David was Sam from the Taken movie, lmao.

  • @mrlinushermansson
    @mrlinushermansson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Echo only lasted 186 episodes before he had to take an episode off?! Where is the commitment to the cause?!

  • @jkockler
    @jkockler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2 minutes into Dave's credentials and I want to quit lol

  • @BigBear81
    @BigBear81 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of war is not a prescripted event, how does art of war work its self into what they're talking about. I'm probably missing something but I would appreciate a response from someone who is more educated/qualified to explain. Thnx

    • @JoCo480
      @JoCo480 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The art of war is a rough overview but in it is wrote that if one know every aspect of oneself and this and that victory is certain but the ultimate truth is that no one person can predict the future with absolute certainty, so I think sun Tzu was perhaps an idealist who even though strategically intelligent believed in the art too much ignoring the chaos of the real world.

  • @logosofgame4273
    @logosofgame4273 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Good Evening "Dave"??? It just sounds wrong when it's not Echo!

  • @brennmann1234
    @brennmann1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get Kyle carpenter on the podcast! He has a new book coming out soon!

  • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
    @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Killing

  • @daireklewis2482
    @daireklewis2482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Deal Dave??.... Good Deal Dave... Echo Charlie you are missed

  • @sdbling
    @sdbling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Deal Dave? Since Echo isn’t here to say Dave’s name as a question. Good evening.. Get Wes Watson on here. What a paradox.

  • @thundergrace
    @thundergrace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Art? Good? Art?

  • @TheJuggernautKing3
    @TheJuggernautKing3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jocko should have David Goggins on

    • @dachisoncarrazco
      @dachisoncarrazco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheJuggernautKing3 that would be epic!!!!!

  • @RikodiusRex
    @RikodiusRex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is Echo going to help his seal friend get turned back into a person?

  • @jacobrousse111
    @jacobrousse111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE echo charles, but he got ROASTED at the beginning of this episode 😂😂 another incredible podcast.

    • @cdrtej
      @cdrtej 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea but Dave muffed the supporch! Harder than it looks I guess

  • @daireklewis2482
    @daireklewis2482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to know Dave’s take on ufos

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Leif's, too. I would be interested to know what the two of them think of ufos and aliens.

  • @BradPitbull
    @BradPitbull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    NOTHING DOMINATES SKINNY KNEES!!!!

  • @skuirrelTV
    @skuirrelTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good deal Dave???

  • @boydcrowder6130
    @boydcrowder6130 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bailed on socialist horse shit idea's being discussed on the current JRE. This is wayyyy better.

  • @markchick634
    @markchick634 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have You ever chased a UFO?Just putting that out there since it's all over the news.Thanks for Your service Sir.

  • @vincentrepins5825
    @vincentrepins5825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i await my window of opportunity then it's go time to harvest the milkweed

  • @TheFi1thyCasual
    @TheFi1thyCasual 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    501 doesn't really count as the first f35 squadron 😄.. Semper Fi

  • @cometkiller6444
    @cometkiller6444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:10:45

  • @joshuphouse1395
    @joshuphouse1395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really

  • @fuzzybuzzy3159
    @fuzzybuzzy3159 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, but seriously. I think having Vaush on your podcast would be very interesting, as he does agree with many things you espouse but sits on the opposite side of the political spectrum. As much as he likes to call you a caveman, he does respect you.

  • @waterfordenterprise2836
    @waterfordenterprise2836 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goggins

  • @Linebacker8859
    @Linebacker8859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Admit it, echo Charles is doing bicep curls and getting jaaaaaacked

  • @BetaBuxDelux
    @BetaBuxDelux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Echo - get back to work!!!