My goal for this year is to get started in bonsai! I've been learning as much as I can for now. I have one small sapling I found in my garden that hopefully survives the Winter, which will be my first bonsai attempt
Do it! My advice how i started buy a tree that is in its first stages. My first tree was 100$. U can go even cheaper too and if u know what to do go to a nursery and find a suitable tree for even cheaper. I started and never looked back but be careful the addiction is real😂. Ive dumped a ton of money into my garden but couldnt be happier
This was a good lesson. All of mine are collected but one, and I have to say, watching that one little acorn grow into a seedling and work on a second little branch is the healthiest thing ever. I don't care if I'm dead before I see a tree, the process is kind of Zen, and feels very calming.
Dankjewel, Jelle! Als jonge bonsai hobbyist (22) heb ik nog veel te leren. Je video is helder en feitelijk, zonder te veel af te gaan op wat men zegt, wat me meer vertrouwen geeft in de verzorging van mijn eigen bonsai. Ik woon in een huurhuis met alleen tegels, dus jouw uitleg in deze video klinkt als muziek in mijn oren!
:) Veel succes. Uiteindelijk is het belangrijk veel naar anderen te luisteren, te begrijpen waarom bepaalde dingen worden aangeraden en op basis daarvan je plan te trekken. Kijk ook naar de bomen die die mensen hebben. Als iemand zelf geen bomen 5+ jaar in leven kan houden...
This was very interesting and encouraging. Not all of us have accessible ground with the right sun exposure or great soil to just put a tree in the ground and chop as needed. I like to watch the development in the pot, and appreciate the form even if the trunk isn’t super thick. It’s kind of relative anyway.
Good video subject! Like you, and lots of others, I use multiple growing methods. Having trees in pots on the ground so their roots can "escape" is actually known as the escape method of growing. A couple to things to watch out for: 1) If the pot has a drain hole in the middle, a tree left too long between root prunings can form a tap root that can make it very hard to dig up later. 2) Termites can get into trees directly from the soil underneath. Regular root pruning solves both problems, as well as sealing off any central drain holes.
I've got most of my pots in a raised garden bed this summer as I've moved to a slightly warmer climate. My Willow is grateful for the extra root growth and water supply and so are my NZ swamp trees. My Maples are in shock but fingers crossed. Good call on the subject matter, very interesting. 🤞❤️🇳🇿
It's 4:30am and I'm watching tree videos. Now I'm here for the opening!! Whoo! I have a few plants propagating to start my bonsai journey and some black pine and Japanese maple seeds coming
Well said - it is easy to forget just how hard it can be to heal those ugly wounds on ground planted material. As you know a ot of my trees have grown the slow way and definitely have less issues with unsightly cut sites. Top stuff as always :)
Thank you for making this video. I am currently only able to grow my cuttings in pots, and I'm happy to hear that there are some nice benefits to growing in a pot. I also enjoy the process more than the end result. Watering my plants by hand allows me to keep track of every development. I'm glad you pointed out that you need to help drain the pot after watering. I do that every time.
My understanding is that the potted trees still put on yearly growth rings but those rings are much denser, so although the trunk is not thickening up as fast as the same tree in the ground, the growth is there. Quality over quantity in wood?
@ the reasons i like to keep everything in pots other than space restrictions are controlling wounds, being able to wire branches before they get too thick, and root work. Pretty much what was said in the video. I dont want course growth and personally im aiming for shohin and smaller trees. 90% of my trees are from seed or cuttings. I want to be able to control anything that happens from the beginning
Hi Jelle, Great video, I have a trident maple with a trunk about two thumbs thickness and was wondering if i could still do a root over rock? The trees roots are still thin and fibrous. Thanks Mitchell😀😀
Solid argument, yeah as long as your roots can grow out freely during season, they really dont need extra 20 cm of soil on each side to "win more at bonsai" Dude im so itchy for a new season to start.. we have very mild winter so far, but we do get late spring frost hits - and that really whacks my trees... Can we please not do february this year, just skip to march and maybe put extra june in so it adds up.. Give us more content for the itch :D
One of my most vigorous trees is one of my oldest, over 2 years in the same tiny plastic cheese spread cup. It's a lawson cypress I got as a 20cm "christmas tree" in 2022 and "styled" and repotted straight away. I have no idea what soil I used back then, but I put some gravel on the surface to stop water eroding the soil, but it also blocks the proper view. It has never pushed roots out of the drainage holes either. I think I'll repot it next spring and find out what's beneath the surface.
Would having a deep but narrow pot be better for developing your bonsai. I have some pots that have the diameter of a 4/5" pot but are 3 times as deeper than a standard pot that size
Hi Jelle! It’s a bit off topic with the video (by the way great and useful video I’ve love it) do you have experience into growing olive trees bonsais from small cuttings but hard wood type?? I have a 20 years old olvie tree in my garden and I’ve always wanted to make some cuttings for bonsais from the winter or summer pruning!!
Thanks for this. I am put off by those who hack up monster trunks; they might say that cuts will eventually not be obvious--not true! I have vitex, eleagnus and American elm grown from seedlings in pots for 15-20 years. They could have been managed better, but their trunks are beautiful.
@@GrowingBonsai Of course you are correct. The hack/heal/disguise approach is a viable approach to reduce time. I had the fortune to attend the November all-Japan show in Kyoto about 20 years ago, where the deciduous trees were shown without foliage. The trees did not show the cuts/healed cuts that are in evidence in U.S. exhibits, and I think such trees had been in culture for decades. Most of us have neither the patience nor the time for such culture. A few years back I splurged and bought a 35-year-old mame black pine from Bill Valvanis; it had been grown from seed, always in a pot, in Japan, I was told.
hi jelle you say the only way to get a branch is to graft, but its not my friend. i use a hormone paste and any dormant bud even bare branch will come to life. :)
@@GrowingBonsai yeah ok but on my big acer i just rubbed some in dots on the trunk and branches grew so i donk know.. ive used the stuff for years mate.. but you are right about nodes on acers. love learning things off you :)
Compost at the base of a pot saturated with water. This is the phenomenon of the perched water table. Air supply to a plant in a big pot can be improved by moving to a deeper pot. Water gradient from near o% at top to near 100% at bottom is the same regardless of the depth of the pot. So for better air supply to roots and faster growing, use not a very wide shallow pot, but a smaller, deeper one.
I've often wondered about this, and hey Jelle if you're reading do a video about water tables and soil gradients! I see some people put coarse on bottom and go finer towards surface, and that made no sense to me.... trees such as pine grow roots down towards water, you want dry on the top and the water to be sitting below where the longer roots can reach (like in nature).... so therefore fine sand bottom and coarser substrate towards top? Perhaps in a pot it doesn't matter? When I start seeds in compost, that organic soil (while great for germinating) later on becomes something that could cause root rot because it can stay wet for too long. I really have no clue about all this so I just make all my mixes consistent grade throughout and then there is no mystery if tree requires watering!
Buongiorno ma la variabile della vita e la prima cosa perché da seme potresti non vedere mai la realizzazione della pianta in borsai poi tutto può essere messo in discussione anche io o delle piante coltivate a seme ma o settant'anni riuscirò a vedere evoluzione ciao
I'll put my big pots away then!!! seriously though take your point about rightish size pot is better. I always thought commercial growers potted in small pots just to save space but have seen plants thrive better when potted up more often rather than put straight into biggest pot. This mainly applied to vegetable plants growing much more quickly.
Oh wow.. A big mistake atabout 4-5minutes in!
But he did it again! Loving this video!
My goal for this year is to get started in bonsai! I've been learning as much as I can for now. I have one small sapling I found in my garden that hopefully survives the Winter, which will be my first bonsai attempt
Do it! My advice how i started buy a tree that is in its first stages. My first tree was 100$. U can go even cheaper too and if u know what to do go to a nursery and find a suitable tree for even cheaper. I started and never looked back but be careful the addiction is real😂. Ive dumped a ton of money into my garden but couldnt be happier
@Chris-oq6kn I'm definitely trying for a cheaper route!
Yees, just give it a good start!
This was a good lesson. All of mine are collected but one, and I have to say, watching that one little acorn grow into a seedling and work on a second little branch is the healthiest thing ever. I don't care if I'm dead before I see a tree, the process is kind of Zen, and feels very calming.
absolutely!
Incredibly useful information, thank you Sir!
You're welcome!
Thanks for this video, I appreciated it. We often put so much emphasis in producing a bonsai as quickly as possible but faster isn't always better.
Very interesting with excellent pointers, thankyou Jelle
Dankjewel, Jelle! Als jonge bonsai hobbyist (22) heb ik nog veel te leren. Je video is helder en feitelijk, zonder te veel af te gaan op wat men zegt, wat me meer vertrouwen geeft in de verzorging van mijn eigen bonsai. Ik woon in een huurhuis met alleen tegels, dus jouw uitleg in deze video klinkt als muziek in mijn oren!
:) Veel succes. Uiteindelijk is het belangrijk veel naar anderen te luisteren, te begrijpen waarom bepaalde dingen worden aangeraden en op basis daarvan je plan te trekken. Kijk ook naar de bomen die die mensen hebben. Als iemand zelf geen bomen 5+ jaar in leven kan houden...
This was very interesting and encouraging. Not all of us have accessible ground with the right sun exposure or great soil to just put a tree in the ground and chop as needed. I like to watch the development in the pot, and appreciate the form even if the trunk isn’t super thick. It’s kind of relative anyway.
Good video subject! Like you, and lots of others, I use multiple growing methods. Having trees in pots on the ground so their roots can "escape" is actually known as the escape method of growing. A couple to things to watch out for: 1) If the pot has a drain hole in the middle, a tree left too long between root prunings can form a tap root that can make it very hard to dig up later. 2) Termites can get into trees directly from the soil underneath. Regular root pruning solves both problems, as well as sealing off any central drain holes.
I've got most of my pots in a raised garden bed this summer as I've moved to a slightly warmer climate.
My Willow is grateful for the extra root growth and water supply and so are my NZ swamp trees.
My Maples are in shock but fingers crossed.
Good call on the subject matter, very interesting.
🤞❤️🇳🇿
It's 4:30am and I'm watching tree videos. Now I'm here for the opening!! Whoo!
I have a few plants propagating to start my bonsai journey and some black pine and Japanese maple seeds coming
Ohw boy... Are you OK? Should you not have 2 eyes closed, snoring loudly waknig up all the kittens in the neighbourhood?
Well said - it is easy to forget just how hard it can be to heal those ugly wounds on ground planted material. As you know a ot of my trees have grown the slow way and definitely have less issues with unsightly cut sites. Top stuff as always :)
Great video Jelle. I've heard some of the great Japanese bonsai growers only container grow and it's been highly successful for them.
Absolutely. We are impatient at times!
Loved this video Jelle thank you for amazing content, lots of my trees are seed grown and like you I love the process of developing them
Great to hear!
Thank you for making this video. I am currently only able to grow my cuttings in pots, and I'm happy to hear that there are some nice benefits to growing in a pot. I also enjoy the process more than the end result. Watering my plants by hand allows me to keep track of every development. I'm glad you pointed out that you need to help drain the pot after watering. I do that every time.
Nice work on the video.... I need to down size some of my pots!!
Altijd weer leuk om een andere visie op de standaard gedachte in de bonsai wereld te zien bedankt Jelle 👍
Graag gedaan! Er zijn vele wegen naar rome. Sommige zijn scenic, en andere zijn snel :)
Thank you for wonderful videos, with good information.
Thank you so much!
Thank you Jelle for yet another wonderful video
My pleasure!
Very informative...thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video. Interesting!
I only pot grow. A tree can continue to get bigger and thicker as long as the diameter of the trunk is smaller than the diameter of the pot.
My understanding is that the potted trees still put on yearly growth rings but those rings are much denser, so although the trunk is not thickening up as fast as the same tree in the ground, the growth is there. Quality over quantity in wood?
@ the reasons i like to keep everything in pots other than space restrictions are controlling wounds, being able to wire branches before they get too thick, and root work. Pretty much what was said in the video. I dont want course growth and personally im aiming for shohin and smaller trees. 90% of my trees are from seed or cuttings. I want to be able to control anything that happens from the beginning
Very interesting video jelle thanks my friend keep up the good work
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Jelle, Great video, I have a trident maple with a trunk about two thumbs thickness and was wondering if i could still do a root over rock? The trees roots are still thin and fibrous. Thanks Mitchell😀😀
Un grand merci pour la vidéo!
You're very welcome!
Solid argument, yeah as long as your roots can grow out freely during season, they really dont need extra 20 cm of soil on each side to "win more at bonsai"
Dude im so itchy for a new season to start.. we have very mild winter so far, but we do get late spring frost hits - and that really whacks my trees...
Can we please not do february this year, just skip to march and maybe put extra june in so it adds up.. Give us more content for the itch :D
aaaaalllmooosst spring!
Great info I never thought of!!
Glad to hear there was something new!
One of my most vigorous trees is one of my oldest, over 2 years in the same tiny plastic cheese spread cup. It's a lawson cypress I got as a 20cm "christmas tree" in 2022 and "styled" and repotted straight away. I have no idea what soil I used back then, but I put some gravel on the surface to stop water eroding the soil, but it also blocks the proper view. It has never pushed roots out of the drainage holes either. I think I'll repot it next spring and find out what's beneath the surface.
Good idea!
Again very nice Jelle! See you soon in Gent :D
Can't wait!
@@GrowingBonsai and I mean GenK, not GenT of course, I have a day ticket with one Demo, if I see you I will wave :D
Would having a deep but narrow pot be better for developing your bonsai. I have some pots that have the diameter of a 4/5" pot but are 3 times as deeper than a standard pot that size
Hi Jelle! It’s a bit off topic with the video (by the way great and useful video I’ve love it) do you have experience into growing olive trees bonsais from small cuttings but hard wood type?? I have a 20 years old olvie tree in my garden and I’ve always wanted to make some cuttings for bonsais from the winter or summer pruning!!
I have grown olive from bigger hardwood cuttings. I found they take quite well if kept nice and warm and humid.
@@GrowingBonsaiin which season did you did it? or recomend on doing it? also thanks for sharing :)
I use a raised garden bed so I can keep my trees from looking unkept while still developing them much faster than in a pot
Great video Jelle. I prefer slower, easier controlled growth. You hit the nail when you said it is about the journey, not the finished product
Thx! I do use both fast beefing and slow development of extentions
Thanks for this. I am put off by those who hack up monster trunks; they might say that cuts will eventually not be obvious--not true! I have vitex, eleagnus and American elm grown from seedlings in pots for 15-20 years. They could have been managed better, but their trunks are beautiful.
I think with time, most of these cuts can heal over well, and be less noticable. But.. Well.. there are other routes
@@GrowingBonsai Of course you are correct. The hack/heal/disguise approach is a viable approach to reduce time. I had the fortune to attend the November all-Japan show in Kyoto about 20 years ago, where the deciduous trees were shown without foliage. The trees did not show the cuts/healed cuts that are in evidence in U.S. exhibits, and I think such trees had been in culture for decades. Most of us have neither the patience nor the time for such culture. A few years back I splurged and bought a 35-year-old mame black pine from Bill Valvanis; it had been grown from seed, always in a pot, in Japan, I was told.
hi jelle you say the only way to get a branch is to graft, but its not my friend. i use a hormone paste and any dormant bud even bare branch will come to life. :)
But.. only if there are dormand buds...
Maples do not typically have dormant buds between nodes.
@@GrowingBonsai yeah ok but on my big acer i just rubbed some in dots on the trunk and branches grew so i donk know.. ive used the stuff for years mate.. but you are right about nodes on acers. love learning things off you :)
Compost at the base of a pot saturated with water. This is the phenomenon of the perched water table. Air supply to a plant in a big pot can be improved by moving to a deeper pot. Water gradient from near o% at top to near 100% at bottom is the same regardless of the depth of the pot. So for better air supply to roots and faster growing, use not a very wide shallow pot, but a smaller, deeper one.
I've often wondered about this, and hey Jelle if you're reading do a video about water tables and soil gradients!
I see some people put coarse on bottom and go finer towards surface, and that made no sense to me.... trees such as pine grow roots down towards water, you want dry on the top and the water to be sitting below where the longer roots can reach (like in nature).... so therefore fine sand bottom and coarser substrate towards top? Perhaps in a pot it doesn't matter?
When I start seeds in compost, that organic soil (while great for germinating) later on becomes something that could cause root rot because it can stay wet for too long.
I really have no clue about all this so I just make all my mixes consistent grade throughout and then there is no mystery if tree requires watering!
I think those elms are Ulmus minor var. Sure looks like the same cork Barks ive gotten from bonsai Schule Enger
thx
Making me miss continental Europe with that brodie you got there. 0:49
Sorry.. No local european / german baker nearby?
Great information Jelle thank you. I have also had great results from growing trees in flat seed trays. Take care.
yeah, flat trays are great!
Excellent as always Jelle. Thanks again from the Irish fan club!!
:) Hope the Iris club is doing well and have been able to keep the trees safe the last 24hrs.
Buongiorno ma la variabile della vita e la prima cosa perché da seme potresti non vedere mai la realizzazione della pianta in borsai poi tutto può essere messo in discussione anche io o delle piante coltivate a seme ma o settant'anni riuscirò a vedere evoluzione ciao
I do not speak Italian. But if google translated this correct I think you are completely missing the point I am trying to make.
One with nature, one with the universe, one with God. Fine your path to make the connection and life life to the full. Enjoy.
I think your sacrifice roots are also called escape roots.
Absolutely!
I'll put my big pots away then!!! seriously though take your point about rightish size pot is better. I always thought commercial growers potted in small pots just to save space but have seen plants thrive better when potted up more often rather than put straight into biggest pot. This mainly applied to vegetable plants growing much more quickly.
Absolutely
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You used the word "really" 44 times, in this video.
Thats one "really" every 21 seconds.
Haha !
Joke is on the one counting :)
really.. :)
👍🤝Enjoy your Long process that more important than result
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Thank you, I will