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![[FGO] - Gilgamesh’s Valentines Voice Lines](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VojhKGhyY1U/mqdefault.jpg)
Charlie's years of experience wrangling 12 lunatic paladins have left him well suited to handling the king of heroes.
HE IS BURNING HIM, AND HE DOESN'T EVEN NOTICE.
😂😂😂 that’s the funny part
I have a question. Who's he and who's he?
@@agustusclaudiathegodzillam54to the left : Gilgamesh, the legendary Sumerian King, and also call the king of Hero, because he was the first in human history to be recorded as one. As a Archer class servant, he is Prideful as hell and doesn’t even think of you as a person if you’re at the very least a king yourself.
To the right : French king of the medieval era, Charlemagne who made an empire out of the western part of Europe, as a saber class servant.
I don’t have much info about him since fate/extella link is the first game where we saw him.
And I think he is the one doing the burning.
@@djibril012 I don’t think he’s asking about their identities, he just wants to know “who” is burning “who” in the initial comment.
@@theclayman841 ok, let me correct the previous comment then.
So that why Ereshkigal says you'd have to either be a great hero or a total fool to even start a conversation with him :)))
Charlie’s both, so that works out fine!
As much as it might just sound like simping, Charlemagne's actually got a point; it's not just about power. Gil was born with a wisdom that surpasses both mankind and the Gods, and to be blunt there was never anything he couldn't accomplish if he wanted to. Even the Babylon singularity proves this point; from Morgan in fairy Britain establishing the fairy kingdom and failing to actually change Britain in to the land she knew it had to be for her goal to be completed plus being completely unable to silence Cernunnos , to similarly with the lion king, to zeus in olympus and several other events, when faced with circumstances they can't see a way out of, every other king or ruler gives up and pulls something crazy that either accepts the end or plain as day just wouldn't work.
When faced with that in Babylon, Gil retained his faith and fought against Tiamat hoping for something beyond his sight to help save the day. He refused the easy way out of using EA and killing everyone except himself to prevent mankind's complete erasure. Maybe. In the end, when he's not a dick, Gil's unstoppable; but he's always a dick, so he always gets in his own way.
I doubt that, Ea is powerful but not that powerful while it shows the truth of the world it is only the truth of the world of earth showing Earth's genesis as an inferno or a hell scape; Anti-World phantasms are complex, Karna's spear is Anti-World, and all it took to nullify it is Achilles shield which is an NP that creates an entirely different world from his experiences and memories so Anti-world NPs are either able to rip away a layer of the world or put a layer on top of it as opposed to destroying a planet as that is still completely impossible for any NP to do currently. Sefar was able to wipe out and decimate nearly all the gods from every Pantheon with Zeus only driving her off because he combined the remaining power of the gods from his pantheon with his own similar to God Arjuna, none of them could defeat the Alien and when it returned from the battle with Zeus it became even stronger, and only when Gaia herself felt threatened and issued the creation of Excalibur to the fairies were they able to finally defeat her, and that was during the age of the gods.
His wisdom does not surpass the gods it is likened to them as Gilgamesh was created as a bridge for Mankind and the gods in the first place, they didn't anticipate that he would go against them and the only reason for this or at least the most significant aside from his Hubris is when Ishtar provoked him and was responsible for most of the problems he faced. The Beasts are very different all of them don't even have a concept of death and if we take Primate murder...well Gil would be fucked there are only a handful of beasts that could rival an "ULTIMATE" of a Type/Planet in terms of Killing and destruction and Fou is one of them; one of the reasons Tiamat was defeated was because Grand Assasin King Hassan was there he inflicted the concept of Death on her and that's his own ability not even tied to his weapon, without that he could use EA but nothing would happen she's a primordial being to begin with, and he did accept it's destruction and realising there was no other way but to accept that Babylon will end, but humanity has to carry on.
Babylon still fell, the point was though he was a benevolent king he is still far off from the perfect King and from accomplishing everything, the tale of him losing the elixir of life is proof of that even if he can put his all into it, he can't accomplish everything, he couldn't save his best friend hell the only reason he had the elixir in Fate strange fake is because his tale once recorded that he
"Used" to possess it and as a reward by the throne it was given to him only because later in his life he changed and became worthy of it, he even admonished Shirou's wish to save people without sacrifice that was a goal said to be impossible even by the gods and Gil didn't even dare to challenge that, he accepted Humanity's misgivings and labeling it stupid to try to save them all never placing his faith that someone could find the answer, Emiya even goes further to explain what saving everyone means to him, he didn't want people to stop fighting (in terms of succeeding in life) nor did he want them to stop changing and being better he just wanted people to stop killing each other and pointlessly making others cry in pain, there is a mature way of dealing with problems causing wars for pointless reasons and calamities is not one of them.
The perfect king was Artoria the reason for the destruction of camelot is because most of of the kingdom was against her rule even if she was the perfect one to lead them that problem becomes more complex taking in both sides because most of her people are basically hypocritical assholes that immediately blames a higher power without considering what they could've done to atleast lessen her burden and fail to try to understand her as a person, her very own knights were very selfish as opposed to her and you can see this in the camelot singularity where they absolutely know they were in the wrong for leaving the burden to her alone and running off to do whatever they wished to do which was present in all of their stories hell the Lion King or Goddess Rhongomyniad wouldn't have been able to possess her if Bediviere (well singularity at least, PHH he did) wasn't selfish and threw the sword into the Lake as he promised he would do, most of their selfish actions also lead to the rebellion and the destruction of Camelot, except for 3 people: Galahad, Percival, and Gareth; they were the only ones to follow her command and succeed her (Gareth though died by the hand of Lancelot but she was still recognized as someone worthy to follow the King and was compared to Galahad or percival if I'm not mistaken), most of them were even recognized by the Holy Grail to be worthy; unlike Ishtar, Morgan is proficient at scheming and she is known for that, most of the round table knights well the main ones were composed of her children, most of the reasons why Artoria Lost artifacts and mystic codes that surpass even Gilgamesh's NPs in his treasury was because she stole them away. Artoria didn't look for the easy way out, she looked for the most rationale. She wasn't knowledgeable at everything but she knew how to lead, it's the same thing in life you give people a leader that is perfect for the role (Hypothetically speaking) and they'll still find ways to bitch and complain.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 lmao Saber was a good king, and Zero was full of shit, but even if it was executed poorly, it had a point that she wasn't really a "perfect" king. If there's any "perfect king", it would be Leo from Extra, who Nasu doubles down on for that specific trait, or Arthur, who is essentially boring Arturia as he is everything she isn't
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Few things here. Anti-World is not the destructive capacity of a Noble Phantasm. The rankings like that are the Range specifically. Karna's spear is not Anti-World, because if it was it would've destroyed Achilles' shield entirely and still killed Sieg. Enuma Elish is Anti-World because it can rip apart the world at it's very concept, reducing it back to nothing.
Also, Gil's wisdom, at the very least Caster Gil's, definitely surpasses the Gods. Sha Naqma Imuru is the Noble Phantasm that Caster Gil possesses, that literally allows him to see into the future, and all variations of it and choose which one comes true. You literally can't have better wisdom than literally knowing how everything is going to play out. But despite all that Gilgamesh let himself die and allowed humans to take control of the future. Caster and Archer Gil are two entirely separate characters, Archer, who only puts faith in his strength and power, and Caster, who puts his faith in humans despite our many flaws.
Also Artoria was not a perfect King and no one was against her rule at all. Everyone trusted Merlin, so when she pulled the sword from the stone they just accepted her as king. That was the entire point of her character. She lead from a point of emotionlessness, giving out absolute orders. She never connected with anyone, even her own wife Guinevere, her closest friends in the Round Table, and even the person that raised her, Merlin. To be fair with Merlin however, he's part Incubus and doesn't understand human emotion, so naturally Artoria wouldn't get it either. But the fall of Camelot comes about in a few places, the first was Tristan. Tristan was the one that really began this, as Artoria lead she had no emtion and was purely strict and fair, which was the problem. She never understood the people she was leading, leading Tristan to leave and say that she didn't understand the human heart, which later lead to an all out war.
And then we get to Mordred. While Mordred's creation is not Artoria's fault, the way she treated Mordred was not great. Instead of telling Mordred that they simply weren't ready to be king yet, she went for the harsh approach and told Mordred they would never be king. She even admits that she made the wrong choice there and is just now bitter about Mordred ending her kingdom, despite that being directly her own fault. Artoria being betrayed came from actions she made herself.
Artoria was not a perfect king because she lacked human imperfection. She was admirable, fair, and sincere, but she never acted in a way that would give off she was even human. Her entire story arc was just to accept what happened and finally move on and let her story end. It's like what Iskandar and Gil were telling her, to accept what happened as redoing their rule would be an insult to all the people who followed them and died for them. Leo is not a good king for this same reason, he's just too perfect. Gil is not perfect either, but he understood people and made fair calls with his knowledge of the future. He knew Uruq would not survive, but so long as it's people remained that was enough. He literally informed everyone that most of them would die if they stayed, but they stood by his side regardless. The way you're interpreting this story is just odd to me, also with Camelot, she is objectively doing the wrong thing in most people's opinion. Instead of fighting back against the singularities, she's saving the worthy people and killing literally everyone else, even people who weren't actually doing anything wrong. That's why the knights betrayed her there as well. She was killing innocent people and justifying it without taking into account how others might look at it.
Also Artoria did not have anything in the Camelot treasury that can surpass anything of Gil's. Gate of Babylon is just it's own pocket dimension that is constantly growing to the point even Gil doesn't know what is getting added to it. I'm not gonna hold you so hard against the parts where you clearly don't know how the Noble Phantasms work, they're complicated so whatever. The character parts confuse me because they are the opposite of what we are literally shown through the series.
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Gil actually went back for the elixir. But to complete his collection this time.
He wasn't "rewarded" for it.
@@jcekap9522 Worlds first OCD. The snake becoming immortal was truly a gag. But on the other hand, that’s what I respect the most about Gilgamesh. Respecting that he could choose the path of immortality but stayed as a mortal, and instead allowed his actions and accomplishments itself be immortal in history.
I can't get enough how much I love Charlie's positibity.
Caster Gil: Did he just?
Kid Gil: Indeed he did…
Archer Gil: Huh? What do you mean? He’s just praising me, right?
Didn't expect this to funny
Lol Charlamange is literally roasting this man and he don’t even notice. Lol the best roasters are those types the type that roast you and also still show a bit of admiration for you
I didn't notice either, what about Gil that he roasted? I rewatched and still didn't get it.
@@Succubus_L0li Because he’s doing it in a sarcastic way
He's definitely roasting him and yes the egoestical king of mesopotamia is too oblivious .
His ego has always been his biggest hindrance. Without it he would likely be everything he claimed, and so much more.
He has the wisdom to be able to spot roasts like this, but since it sounds like praises to his person he becomes blind to it.
An overinflated ego with the specs to actually stand behind the ego, but ironically, the very same ego is making him less than what he could be.
@@Elmithian because that's how ego works, even IRL. It's just pulling yer leg.
I may be late commenting but, it's kinda cute that he want's to be praised when Saber (Arturia) is around haha 😅
2:03
That was a burn
how
@@mxhdi1998 Calling Gilgamesh "Weird" for his method to makes moves with Artoria
How to get into the King of Heroes' good side.. Just genuinely praise him without looks like you trying to kiss his ass
Gilgamesh character portrait looks like Hisoka.
Hmmm so Charlamange is the last King to make his mark as a hero is what he’s saying or is there something else because I think he’s right now sure tho gotta fact check that, but from all the king heroic spirits I know I think he is the last one to leave his mark to be a heroic spirit
Artoria comes after Charlemange. In fact some sources say KOTR is based on The twelve paladins.
@@yammoto148 huh I thought the knights of the rounds came first? I’m confused 😵💫
@@darakkriess1030 Nope 12 paladins.
The earliest mention of KOTR is 1000 AD, where as the song of Roland was written 512AD
@@yammoto148 I see I did read that Charles came before Arthur and that Arthurian legend did draw inspiration from it but I’ve also ready historically Arthur came first but I guess that’s because of the story so I guess that makes sense. Well I guess for the sake of the fate timeline Nasu makes it seem like Arthur came first
@@darakkriess1030 Yeah no, King Arthur came much later, there is ideas that stories about him started around Charlemagne's time in England but there is no evidence for it.
Gilgamesh, humanity's oldest simp (and creep)