maybe for who is not turk the focus tree can be boring but for the turks focus tree do have patriotic and historical background soo its not really boring for the turks
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I use them partly as a "tutorial" for achievements, because some things are just frustrating. Your Tank only Soviet Union video was very helpful. Thanks and greetings from Bavaria
I only played Turkey once. Funny to see more experienced people fall for the same mistake I did. I believe that if you hover over any economic law other than civilian it says it'll affect Estatism negatively
Legit one of the comments you showed at the start asked for play modded Turkey (Better Turkey Plus). Fixes a lot of the issues (but makes tonnes more) with the focus tree.
Arrived early: Hes gonna do Ottoman empire for the umptillion time like other youtubers, isnt he ? A bit later: Holy Shiet no Ottoman empire!Ura! Btw if you want other playstyle reccomand motorised/mecanised infantry only, can add artilerry( pls no Germany), Its GLORIOUS!
So as a Turkish person i'd like to explain a few things for you. A little history time. First of all that "Entrench Kemalist in State" decision. Back in the 1920s and 1930s, there were two political sides in Türkiye. One side mostly lived in rural areas and inner Anatolia, people were "traditionalist". Many of them did not really like the way Atatürk created. "Republic" and "Democracy" terms were very new to this people. And there was one "progressive" side. They mostly lived in borders to the sea. And as you can tell they were close to Atatürk's ideas. And in 20s/30s Türkiye many incidents happened. One of the most important was clearly an assasination attempt on our beloved father Atatürk. The idea of entrenching Kemalist in state means, stopping un-progressive, separatist and if i need to be bold terrorists, putting an end in a non-sense civil aggression by educating people. The "Etatism" was a collective economic system created by Atatürk. It is a bit complicated to translate but if I were to say it straight it means economy is controlled and diverted/distributed(?) by the Turkish government. In early Türkiye idea of "private-enterprise" was not preferred. Atatürk wanted our country to be self-sufficient. And in-game it is simplified to "if you change economic law you get bad stuff.". Lastly the most controversial one. "Kurdish Rebels". Back in 1880s and 1890s Kurdish people fought with Armenian people in Eastern Anatolia and Turkish military tried end this bloody war between them. In the end, the Turkish nation was chosen as the scapegoat. In 1920s Kurdish tribe leaders were received financial support from a few countries. Basically big countries wanted them to rebel to the new republic. They wanted to carve Türkiye into many states. I do not want to get into politics anymore but yeah this is the simplistic structure. They tried to rebel a few times by mixing the ideas of "cultural differences" and "Thanks to democracy we will have no religion!". Anyways i hope i have cleared just a tip of this iceberg. Thank you. Also most of the Turkish people does not hate Greek people or Kurdish people. We can joke about ourselves but they are brothers and sisters of us. Take care.
Hello, fellow turkish brother. I just wanted to correct the wrong info you had and even clarify it. Etatism was not created by Atatürk. It was more or less created by the French. (In fact, a lot of Atatürks ideas were inspired by the French, such as secularism) Also, to clarify etatism is when the government controls most of the nations industry and owns its resources. When the nation mobilizes, most of its resources and industry go to warfare, which causes less consumer goods production, which causes less trade, which causes devalued currency, which causes inflation Anyways, have a good day brother
@ Thank you for the correction. You are right, Atatürk took many from the French. In his early life he was greatly influenced by French authors. I don’t really know about economic stuff unfortunately. I did some research and read a little about Etatism. Take care.
Hey Florius, regarding that turkish strait event at just before the two minute mark, as far as I'm aware, you are correct. Even if the UK doesn't back you, if you remain steadfast and not choose any compromises, Stalin will always back down on historical
0:44 you can also build 2 infrastructure in Kaiseri and also a supply hub if you want to also get 2 mills from there after doing the chromium deal with Germany. Building in Bursa is unnecessary, since you get 65 chromium from there after getting a naval base from the navy focus (I forgot how its called)
17:51 You get bonuses to recruitable population and local speed construction in the state that has Kemalists entrenched. And it's vice-versa if Fundamentalists are entrenched. Their bonuses are awful, but aren't that hard to deal with if you dont forget about clicking Secularism in the "Ratify Six Arrows" decisions
Also, if you want to empower the fundamentalists by putting Fevzi Çakmak in power rather than Inonü, you should let them infiltrate as much as they can since you gain their support, so you get bonuses rather than maluses.
This video has some good tips, but the Sanayciler focus gives access to a decision that costs 300pp and gives you a LOT of military factories. I believe it’s somewhere from 4 to 6, can’t recall of the top of my head. Well worth doing, especially since Turkey has a huge sink of political power in Kurdistan you can make use of soon after anyway.
Turkey sat out the WW2. As a Turkish person, I am starting to have doubts if it was a good decision after watching these HOI videos. We are lucky I was not leading Turkey at that time lol.
5:02 if you go to intervene in the spanish civil war that focus will give you -60% justify war goal time. And you can retire Atatürk early to become that ideology.
Honestly, theres a lot of potential with the Turkish ft , but its just too dragged out for it to be fun. I have some ideas on how to fix it since most turkey+ mods are outdated or bloated. If only i had modding skills....
05:02 that focus literally the best thing about Turkish tree which it gives you -60% war justification. you chould takeover Bulgaria at 90 days with that focus. But anyway it is nice to see mainstream ho4 youtubers doing something different other than restoring Ottomans 3345675667th times.
Batum region of Georgia (at Turkish border) was very likely Muslim majority in 20s, and Batum was included in Misak-ı Milli so that's why you can core Georgia. It should have been divided
Saddest thing is Turkish focus tree actually had potential, there are unused events about traditionals, kurds, lots of triggers don't work. I wanted to make a mod to bring all those back + fixing six arrow decisions because they are all worthless pp sink except for republicanism which is too op for this game also nationalism Soviet war as well, it's a day 1 total war with Soviets if on non historical, they could have gone with some win lose conditions for partial peace but fuck that I suppose. Wanted to do some changes for losing eastern provinces, winning caucauses maybe, releasing/puppeting/annexing them Well you get it You had a bottleneck between ankara and istanbul Intervention in Spain focus gives you huge time save on justifications great for early You can use train decisions get free trains and use republicanism to fix stab afterwards
Entrenching Kemalism in a state gives the state the same modifier that states like Istanbul has. Its worth it if you have pp you don't need for anything else
The best way is: - get rid of the debt council first - never purge the kemalists, go fatherland first focus - integrate kurdish terrorists is easy, you just need %70 compilence - do every focus but the faction ones in the foreign policy
You spend 50 and get 12 return pp with populism 1500 men and 25% mobilization which won't be there during ww2 if you don't stay nonaligned as the start.
Well most people dont know but you can annex all the minor countries in balkans before france falls to germany with fascist Turkey path including hungary but not the albania
Brasil under Vargas joining the Axis isn't really that weird, Vargas was much more closely aligned to fascism than with the Allies. The primary reason Brasil even joined the war on the Allies side was because germany (mos likely) sunk some brazillian merchants ships.
Not gonna lie. This was the most amount of fun and pain I had in HOI4 in a long time!
Pls make a video with Iran in Iran glory mod plsss❤❤❤❤
Now play the BlackIce mod
Artillery only please
I think it's the finesse of working around a horrible country that makes it satisfying.
Behind Denmark of course
10 minutes into leading Turkey and Florius already started a war in the Balkans. That's what I call historical accuracy
Hahaha
Bruh. When did Turkey start a war in the balkans?
Bruh when didnt they
@@urbann5567last time: fuckin 600 years ago
@@zydrate5098as long as we've been in anatolia
I'm a simple man, as soon as i saw Atatürk in thumbnail i clicked the video
😎😎
Yea me too
i dont even play hoi4 but i clicked the video just because of that
@@TheBinaryGuy01 yeah me too that's the first hoi4 video I've watched
@@fiora35 nicee
maybe for who is not turk the focus tree can be boring but for the turks focus tree do have patriotic and historical background soo its not really boring for the turks
"I shouldn't have taken all this; it wasn't worth it." -every empire that's ever occupied the Balkans
Hahaha!
Atam is happy :D
😊
9:40
"13 mili factories, that is realy good"
- Florius, 2024
😊
Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I use them partly as a "tutorial" for achievements, because some things are just frustrating. Your Tank only Soviet Union video was very helpful. Thanks and greetings from Bavaria
Freut mich zu hören 🫡
BAYERN 🍺🍺🥨
Ironman, historical and GO
😎
Ready, set, Go?
Nah
Ironman, Historical. GO!!
I only played Turkey once. Funny to see more experienced people fall for the same mistake I did.
I believe that if you hover over any economic law other than civilian it says it'll affect Estatism negatively
This Video is blocked in 🇬🇷😂
As always amazing video (The glazing is real🤣)
Hahahaha XD Turkey has a very bright colour 🤣
I just scale it a bit up 😶🌫️
No it is not blocked in greece, i checked. Please stop spreading misinformation
@@DreerKarler that was a joke bro 😑
I am in Eleusis now and it is not blocked in greece lol
--------------->joke
you
I started watching this video and my kitty came and sat down and started to look at my screen, I think she likes your videos
I'm happy to hear that 🫡🤣
No,she is a Turkish cat.
@@TokisakiKurumi_San all cats are Turkish.
@@kapetan1824 yes.
Praying for next part of this video. May Tengri bless you! *sound of throat singing intensifies*
Tengri 🙏
The editing style feels better
I noticed that too
Editor helped me with this video ^^
Oh i get it! If you conquer everything in the vicinity, there will be peace, both at home, and in the world.
Florius' editing is really the jangling keys type, and I love how good it is. My adhd is locked in
Went a bit overkill this time 🤣
Legit one of the comments you showed at the start asked for play modded Turkey (Better Turkey Plus).
Fixes a lot of the issues (but makes tonnes more) with the focus tree.
But no camel achievment 🥲
Now you need to play greece macedonian empire. YOU AINT ESCAPING THE SUFFERING FLORIUS!
Hahaha, I think somewhere in February is realistic 😊 (I have so much planed 😶)
@@chaoticflorius More fun for you incoming 🫡
@@chaoticflorius BETTTTTTTT I will be on every live if i am able to
Damn the editing is so good
😎
Arrived early: Hes gonna do Ottoman empire for the umptillion time like other youtubers, isnt he ?
A bit later: Holy Shiet no Ottoman empire!Ura!
Btw if you want other playstyle reccomand motorised/mecanised infantry only, can add artilerry( pls no Germany), Its GLORIOUS!
😎😎
Do it with motorised rocket arty.
Shoutout to florius for having very big patience
Hahaha, thanks ^^
Switzerland world conquest next maybe? Definitely one of the worser focus trees so could be an interesting challenge!
Best part of the week is when Florius uploads. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do!
>Says will do normal army and normal winning
>Most of the army is camels with guns
Based florious
The plan has changed😎
I hope u can continue this later down the road. This video was awesome. I loved it. Thanks for all the time and effort that goes into the videos
Happy to hear that mate 🫡 I try my best
Finnaly my homeland
🫡🫡
day 2, i propose Spain only tank Challenge
@@junker_1939 that's impossible, since the game will give you a lot of uneditable undeletable divisions
@TastyChicker1L17 those Can be Not Countable. After all they are deleted after CW
Issa Flidius yaya
Always great to see
Thank you for the amazing work, Flo! Appreciate you a lot!!!!! ❤❤❤❤
My pleasure!!
So as a Turkish person i'd like to explain a few things for you. A little history time.
First of all that "Entrench Kemalist in State" decision. Back in the 1920s and 1930s, there were two political sides in Türkiye. One side mostly lived in rural areas and inner Anatolia, people were "traditionalist". Many of them did not really like the way Atatürk created. "Republic" and "Democracy" terms were very new to this people. And there was one "progressive" side. They mostly lived in borders to the sea. And as you can tell they were close to Atatürk's ideas.
And in 20s/30s Türkiye many incidents happened. One of the most important was clearly an assasination attempt on our beloved father Atatürk. The idea of entrenching Kemalist in state means, stopping un-progressive, separatist and if i need to be bold terrorists, putting an end in a non-sense civil aggression by educating people.
The "Etatism" was a collective economic system created by Atatürk. It is a bit complicated to translate but if I were to say it straight it means economy is controlled and diverted/distributed(?) by the Turkish government. In early Türkiye idea of "private-enterprise" was not preferred. Atatürk wanted our country to be self-sufficient. And in-game it is simplified to "if you change economic law you get bad stuff.".
Lastly the most controversial one. "Kurdish Rebels". Back in 1880s and 1890s Kurdish people fought with Armenian people in Eastern Anatolia and Turkish military tried end this bloody war between them. In the end, the Turkish nation was chosen as the scapegoat. In 1920s Kurdish tribe leaders were received financial support from a few countries. Basically big countries wanted them to rebel to the new republic. They wanted to carve Türkiye into many states. I do not want to get into politics anymore but yeah this is the simplistic structure. They tried to rebel a few times by mixing the ideas of "cultural differences" and "Thanks to democracy we will have no religion!".
Anyways i hope i have cleared just a tip of this iceberg.
Thank you. Also most of the Turkish people does not hate Greek people or Kurdish people. We can joke about ourselves but they are brothers and sisters of us. Take care.
Hello, fellow turkish brother. I just wanted to correct the wrong info you had and even clarify it. Etatism was not created by Atatürk. It was more or less created by the French. (In fact, a lot of Atatürks ideas were inspired by the French, such as secularism)
Also, to clarify etatism is when the government controls most of the nations industry and owns its resources. When the nation mobilizes, most of its resources and industry go to warfare, which causes less consumer goods production, which causes less trade, which causes devalued currency, which causes inflation
Anyways, have a good day brother
@ Thank you for the correction. You are right, Atatürk took many from the French. In his early life he was greatly influenced by French authors. I don’t really know about economic stuff unfortunately. I did some research and read a little about Etatism.
Take care.
Çok iyi açıklamissin❤
Always love it when a new Florius video comes out! I love watching you and Sejozwak so much!!!
Happy to hear that mate 🫡
woah new video. I am 28 seconds inside and I love it hahaha. It is always funny to watch your video.
Happy to hear that ^^
Florius your vids are getting better and better keep it up
Thanks mate!
Hey Florius, regarding that turkish strait event at just before the two minute mark, as far as I'm aware, you are correct. Even if the UK doesn't back you, if you remain steadfast and not choose any compromises, Stalin will always back down on historical
Artillery only or No focus challenge
0 fun no matter what 😂
You getting editors now or did you suddenly become amazing at editing? Amazing vid as always
I edit still myself, but with this video I had help from an editor ^^
damn you really outdid yourself with the editing with this one sheesh🎉🎉
Editor helped me with those bits 🫡
0:44 you can also build 2 infrastructure in Kaiseri and also a supply hub if you want to also get 2 mills from there after doing the chromium deal with Germany. Building in Bursa is unnecessary, since you get 65 chromium from there after getting a naval base from the navy focus (I forgot how its called)
The editing is really good
🫡
The soviet AI ALWAYS backoff when you remilitarise the bosporus. Just go for it, free bonus.
Nice!
17:51 You get bonuses to recruitable population and local speed construction in the state that has Kemalists entrenched. And it's vice-versa if Fundamentalists are entrenched. Their bonuses are awful, but aren't that hard to deal with if you dont forget about clicking Secularism in the "Ratify Six Arrows" decisions
Also, if you want to empower the fundamentalists by putting Fevzi Çakmak in power rather than Inonü, you should let them infiltrate as much as they can since you gain their support, so you get bonuses rather than maluses.
Day 7 of convincing Florius to do a World conquest as Communist hawaii in hoi4
Cool to see a turkey video that is not the Ottoman path good job mate 😎
a florius video always makes my day
Happy to hear that mate 😊
I remember that there was faster way to disable allies supply by either pressing CTRL+ left click or Shift+left click.
Bruh... Really 💀 Thanks for letting me know
@chaoticflorius yeah it was CTRL + left click in supply mode. Also Shift + left click toggles motorization. Pressing shift shows supply hubs range.
easily the best hoi4 channel out there
The happines after i see Florius plays turkey🥹
Love your vids made me finally get into hoi4 ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Happy to hear you joined the cul..... us :)
Holy shit he finally didn't use space marines
17:04
Dont cooperate with debt coulncil if you didnt early. There is a focus in soviet side that dissolves it for FREE.
I like how the UK was just split in two and thoes Italian Scott's would probably be terrifying 😂
I don't remember anyone that has more
*Mega trait Stalin stares angrily through your window*
i even dont play hoi4 and didnt watch in my life but i just saw the Ataturk in the thumbnail and clicked the video
Another Chaotic Florius classic 😎
ain't no way bro is going to make 🦃 fun
😎😎
This video has some good tips, but the Sanayciler focus gives access to a decision that costs 300pp and gives you a LOT of military factories. I believe it’s somewhere from 4 to 6, can’t recall of the top of my head. Well worth doing, especially since Turkey has a huge sink of political power in Kurdistan you can make use of soon after anyway.
Turkey sat out the WW2. As a Turkish person, I am starting to have doubts if it was a good decision after watching these HOI videos.
We are lucky I was not leading Turkey at that time lol.
5:02 if you go to intervene in the spanish civil war that focus will give you -60% justify war goal time. And you can retire Atatürk early to become that ideology.
As a turk, this is satisfying.
I never saw anyone playing turkey "just for fun" you might be the first xD
Man can try! 🫡
love your videos and your narration
Still waiting for Siam paratrooper only (Week six)
We turks call the final situation as something like
Altaylardan Tunaya
Which means from Altais to Tuna.
Honestly, theres a lot of potential with the Turkish ft , but its just too dragged out for it to be fun. I have some ideas on how to fix it since most turkey+ mods are outdated or bloated. If only i had modding skills....
Veri gud vidio bruh keep on going 💀🇭🇺
05:02 that focus literally the best thing about Turkish tree which it gives you -60% war justification. you chould takeover Bulgaria at 90 days with that focus. But anyway it is nice to see mainstream ho4 youtubers doing something different other than restoring Ottomans 3345675667th times.
Batum region of Georgia (at Turkish border) was very likely Muslim majority in 20s, and Batum was included in Misak-ı Milli so that's why you can core Georgia. It should have been divided
TBH I just modify the tree and make stuff up until near the end of the top bit 35 days. Makes it so you don't sit there for years
I like the new editing
Just cuz u played turkey again ima join patrion asap
Saddest thing is Turkish focus tree actually had potential, there are unused events about traditionals, kurds, lots of triggers don't work. I wanted to make a mod to bring all those back + fixing six arrow decisions because they are all worthless pp sink except for republicanism which is too op for this game also nationalism
Soviet war as well, it's a day 1 total war with Soviets if on non historical, they could have gone with some win lose conditions for partial peace but fuck that I suppose. Wanted to do some changes for losing eastern provinces, winning caucauses maybe, releasing/puppeting/annexing them
Well you get it
You had a bottleneck between ankara and istanbul
Intervention in Spain focus gives you huge time save on justifications great for early
You can use train decisions get free trains and use republicanism to fix stab afterwards
asking for estonia tanks only video #2
Hahaha
That’s rude to put the hamster when Atatürk die in game
why
17:36 5! DOLLARS!
Bro... Your meme's caught me... İ just subscribed to you...
i hope to god when the new dlc comes out they fix the turkey tree
the national spirit tells you mobilizing economy is gonna hurt economy (i doesnt mention stability tho)
Entrenching Kemalism in a state gives the state the same modifier that states like Istanbul has. Its worth it if you have pp you don't need for anything else
You know, maybe i should give turkey a try.
Dont make fun out of Atatürk.
By calling him a good leader?
@ ok sorry only thing i did is observe the thumbnail
@ im stupid i know
Yeah as a Turkish I confirm you have unlocked our focus tree one by one 😂
I would really like to see You try Denmark. It can form quiet the strong Nation with Kalmar Union AND Norse Reich.
I hear the Mapuche have a better tree. But hey that’s just what I’ve been hearing.
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The best way is:
- get rid of the debt council first
- never purge the kemalists, go fatherland first focus
- integrate kurdish terrorists is easy, you just need %70 compilence
- do every focus but the faction ones in the foreign policy
You can go for etatism decision while you change economics. It delays the debuffs for 100 days
You had me at camels
Hahaha XD
Remember when you reformed the ottoman empire
Tank only Turkey (kemalist path, light tanks) please
NOT the Ott*man Empire
I'll look into it ^^
YES
@@chaoticfloriuswith the Democratic Republican path (not the islamist democratic party)
You spend 50 and get 12 return pp with populism 1500 men and 25% mobilization which won't be there during ww2 if you don't stay nonaligned as the start.
hahha this was so fun
Happy to hear that ☺️
whoa whoa whoa am I spying AOE2 here
Well most people dont know but you can annex all the minor countries in balkans before france falls to germany with fascist Turkey path including hungary but not the albania
Brasil under Vargas joining the Axis isn't really that weird, Vargas was much more closely aligned to fascism than with the Allies. The primary reason Brasil even joined the war on the Allies side was because germany (mos likely) sunk some brazillian merchants ships.
No way he didnt beg for investments not a real turkey playthrought
İf you research minig 2 and build suply hub diyarbakır, you can earn 2 more factory with clodius
funny thing is turks playing turkey better than any other races
New Video!!!! But Im a Bit Late :(
You are forgiven XD
I wouldn't say its a perfect win unless you made Turan xd
the edit is great
If they change how long the focus are I sure it would be better
thank you