Van walls to be proud of begin with good templates/How to make good templates in this 2 part series
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- Handmade van wall panels you can be proud of begin with good templates. Watch how to make good templates.
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Nice Sunday morning video w/Coffee! Thanks!
You bet!
This really feels like a show that would be on PBS. He's like the Norm Abram of camper vans.
This is really where it begins. How to measure is the foundation of all builds. I've learned so much from you. This cardboard mockup with the fine details of curves, angles, extra pieces, holes, grommets for holes, wood donut tool... just marvelous stuff for my brain. I wish I had a teacher like you in my childhood. I'd be an inventor by now. Thank you, Maestro G!
That was then. Now, we enter all those measurements into the computer and the CNC machine cuts a beautiful piece, perfect every time! I love it!
i love these ,its like going back to school ,but actually being interested in the subject
You were so lucky to have woodshop in school. I grew up in another country attending a private girls school where they made you do embroidery! No woodshop, not even something useful like knitting or sewing, but embroidery! Useless. We were being groomed for marriage and nothing more. Fortunately, I rebelled, broke away from the mold and learned DIY on my own. I craved woodshop as a young girl. Now I can build to my hearts content. So grateful to this channel for a superb education. So much to learn.
Double video sunday ! Good way to start the day by listening your video with a coffee ! Double Thanks !
My pleasure!
George, You make an old guy cutting plywood very entertaining! I appreciate all the videos you make, I'm a longtime fan.
Cool, thanks!
I'm a new fan! Someday I'm building myself a van!
I didn’t party much back then, but since I had kids, I find myself repeating constantly!
I get so stoked when a new humble road video pops up on my feed :)
one could say the same about The Seven O Savage
Yippee!
Our boy, Humble, doesn’t have to cruise the rear of Appliance stores for refrigerator boxes to get his beautiful cardboard
I don’t remember the ‘70’s but people tell me that I had a real good time.
I forget measurements; I have to write them down.
Details! Thanks for sharing. Like #33
Nice t-shirt you hare smart man . Capisci.
Grazie .
Nice videos .
Help me allot on my diy project
The Louis suazedde of van building. Love the vids.
Thank you George! So amazing works. 👍😍
Love a logical process! Kudos.
Excellent lesson, thank you.
I've lost count of how many DIY videos I've seen. Your videos are professional , but you make them fun to watch. I've my upped my game watching your "know how" ...even though I grew up in the 70's. ;-) Being "Humble" is a good place to be. Cheers! Dan from Washington State.
Great tip with the wooden doughnut, I was figuring out how to do this and now I know.
Thanks George 👍
Really appreciate your sense of humor and overall knowledge on all things van conversion. This was the right video at the right tine for my own build. Appreciate you.🙏🏻
love TEMPLATES!!!!!
yay coffee time !
this is my favorite van build channel. I love this guy!!
Thank you so much for this. Currently ply lining a transit custom, it’s like adding ply to the sea but this video has made sense of a lot 🙏
I always aim for PERFECTION! Then settle for good . Great 👍🏼 Job
I really needed this video
Thanks much
Thank you so much for your video! I really appreciate the info!
You’re welcome Heather!
Thank you George for your excellent videos. My new hobby is going to be making my new Ford Transit Cargo Van into a weekend adventure van. I’m going to take my time and try to do it right. Your videos and vans are so well thought out you are making me feel like I can do it.
Best of luck!
I really enjoy watching do the templates. It’s great for my ocd. On to part two👍💕😊
I think we all have OCD on this channel, ha ha!
Just found your channel, and have binge watched for a few days. Much wisdom and practical knowledge shared.. Kudos on your efforts.
One trick I learned from another skilled craftsman, determine your measurement tolerance, 1/16 or 1/32, etc and always use that fractional term in all measurements to avoid confusion. 23 and 3/4 becomes 23 and 12, 14 and 3/8 becomes 14 and 6, etc for a 16th of an inch standard.
Thanks for all the fantastic ideas for solutions and sharing the process of following through on your Einstein level concepts!
I like that trick!
admire how you cut the curved shape, you are so smart!
You could make a fortune selling templates.
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I've definitely made a living off my template skills, no fortune yet but there must be a template for that, too, right?!
Thank you for covering some tricks of the trade.
I tried this technique today on my build 2016 high roof LWB Ford Transit, worked awesome!!Love this guy!!Using all his techniques for my build!!
Great to hear! Good luck!
The setup for the eventual tabletop inelegance cut had me in anticipation. The payoff, of course, had me in stitches!
Thank you for that needed humor to start my day George.
PS - This is the video that will start my build, since my floor is already in. Thnx for that, too…..
Glad you enjoyed it!
i cant believe you are doing all this for us diyers....forever grateful
Someday, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me.
you are the best
I like to see how an artist approaches a job. His mindset. What level of expertise he hopes to achieve and what he settles for. Even a mechanic has to start a job confident that he knows what action to take, if his flow chart says go to "plan B".
What a fine retirement. Rock on.
Thank you. I’ve been looking for someone to spell it out for me 🤣 so helpful thanks!!
No problem!!
Glad I am not the only one who repeats measurements over and over till I have marked it on the piece to be cut.😝
You could dance on that table and we would still see you as a gentleman. Always!
"I want you to think I'm a gentleman."
We've watched all your videos, and I'm afraid that ship has sailed! 😆
Cutting room floor? This is good work.
Mr. Humble Road is left handed. KEWL.
This guy makes me want to make templates out of random things that I don’t need them for 😁
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this was exactly what I was looking for for about half an hour before finding your videos. thanks a million, you're a great craftsperson
The secret to perfect templates is visqueen, clear plastic, a sharpie, and some tape
I need this man is my husband in the next life
C’est bien
For the hole that the door arm goes into I've been thinking about using a nylon brush or flap door seal to cover the hole when the arm is out. I haven't built one yet but thought I'd share the idea in case it is useful to you.
Nice!
Very clever! That would be nice too. Might catch a bit of grease though.
Metric.
Makes life so much easier. :)
I'd spend all day making conversions!
Fractions are easy. Most simple problems stay in your head after using them for a time. I use both on a daily basis. Some layouts are easier with metric systems, and some easier in fractions. Depends in which most accurately represents the exact measurements.
@@HumbleRoad
As I explained to the old carpenters I worked w in the ‘70’s
No need to convert
Metric tape measures has little lines & numbers just like imperial ones.
You would call out measurements to the saw man just like now. He would have the same numbers & little lines on his tape as you.
Easier to learn. We were taught metric in all grade levels in school. No more “it’s 24 inches & 3 little lines” from new guys on the job. We through all that & only have 2 litre bottles of Pepsi to show for it.
Brother Humble,
Your ply & Sprinters are made to metric measurements
If the USA had gone metric back in the 60’s, ‘70’s, conversion wouldn’t be considered today. Also the Challenger disaster would have been avoided. ‘O’ rings Specs were in metric. But made in imperial. Kaboom! Lives Lost due to ignorance
Pr - Praseodymium: Using Rare Earth elements to build a van...Impressive!
You know, when I was in 8th grade, learning about the periodic table, there were only 105 elements!
@@HumbleRoad I guess that's why they call it the "periodic" table. Periodically they'll add more (c:
@@Farkas1111
I thought they were a play on Adobe app logos
Tip: when you scribe the wheel well with the hole saw off-cut the scribed arc is larger than the wheel well arc. If you cut your template to that arc you can use the same hole saw off-cut to scribe back to the wheel well. Hope this makes sense ... (you can also use a fender washer).
Yes, there is a point where if you make one more scribe/cut, you've gone too far. Obviously, a compass is better, but as I said, I can't help myself, I love rolling that little wheel! As long as my end result is the same, I choose fun!
@@HumbleRoad Ok, it didn't make sense. I'll try again. It's about offsets.
If you were to scribe around a dinner plate with your little wheel you could cut a template where the hole is larger than the plate by the diameter of the wheel (less the center hole). If you were to then use that template with the same wheel the scribe would be the same size as plate. You only need to scribe twice.
Did you usea combination of 1x1 and 80/20 for the build
Where do you find the large pieces of cardboard??? This is an excellent tutorial about templates!!! Thank you!!!!
You’re welcome 😊
try to find the cardboard locally. Shipping costs would be quite high.
Humble Road i mean what kind of store has that large cardboard?
Visit our hardware stores. Hover around the lumber section and the back bins. Free cardboard - large pieces and LOTS of it. Also try warehouses. And put an ad up on Craigslist for large cardboard pieces.
@@mickiethomason3484 i randomly found out the surf shop down the road from me gets surfboards in 7 to 12ft boxes almost every week, they have to take them to recycle ,so I get all I want free.
@@mickiethomason3484 Staples has new sheets of it at the store near me.
Good Sunday Morning George! Viki here, back in Nashville & ready to install my bed rails. How do you attach yours? Rivnuts? Bolts?
I use bolts, washers and nylok nuts where I have access. Otherwise I use PlusNuts for any weight bearing attachment.
A cargo van walls are all over the place a ford transit cargo van walls are a nightmare to put quarter inch plywood on. They bow in the middle there's bumps sticking out one inch some of the walls ribs bow in over an inch it's a very difficult job.
I will have my first Ford Transit in my shop for a full build in the early Fall. Can’t wait!
What is the material that your using to insulate the wheel wells? It looks like aluminum bubble foil with a rubber adhesive. Is there a common name for this type of insulation tape?
That is sound deadener. Noico or Rattletrap. Insulation goes over that.
Determining the curve around the wheel well seems so tedious and more importantly, time consuming . I'm sure there must be a geometry formula or a tool to accomplish the task faster. A thought that came immediately to my mind, is a stiff, but pliable material that could be molded to the wheel well but not lose its shape when removed to be transferred to cardboard. Perhaps a heavy gauge wire, or a piece of aluminum stock?
How do you attach the wall to the metal van wall? And any problem with mold putting wood on metal?
Magnets. Keep watching my videos for all the details.
Hey George the PR van itself sits low in the front end which leaves those factory holes for the bed rail running down hill towards the front of the van. How do you compensate for that?
park on a hill!
@@HumbleRoad :) :) :)
@@HumbleRoad ROF LMAO when you get an answer like that,. You know you are in Newgersy lol lol
Love your builds, but mounting 8020 to the van frame? Aren't you worried about thermal bridging?
Where it comes in contact with the van chassis, I back every piece of 8020 with rubber or vinyl.
@@HumbleRoad genius!
Love you video!! Where do you buy your cardboard from?
Buy local. Too large to ship
@@HumbleRoad gotcha. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to me
So I learned 23.5 = 23.75. :) And on a Pr the white side of the Thinsulate faces in but on a Sp it faces out? Details, details, details. It's exhausting just watching perfection in action.
These days, if I install the Thinsulate, it's white side in. As far as that 1/4 inch that somehow got lost, well... that's what templates are for! 😀
Where do you find the 4x8 sheets of cardboard? I have called eight local lumber yards
Corrugated boxes and supplies
Why in the Sprinter is the Black side of the insulation towards the interior but in the Promaster the White is towards the inside?
Thank you in advance for your answer
The Sprinter came with the Thinsulate preinstalled. When I install Thinsulate, it is with the adhesive on the black side.
@@HumbleRoad TY
Why is the thinsulate in backwards? I haven't seen it installed that way before.
There is no wrong way to install Thinsulate. In fact, you can buy it with black material on Both sides. The black side is far better for adhesion. Over time, the white fibrous side will fray apart and the Thinsulate may drop down in its cavity.
May I ask where you buy large sheets of cardboard?
Locally. Too expensive to ship.
Where do you get the cardboard sheets from?
Find the cardboard locally. The shipping will be too expensive.
Why not level the van before starting ? Little air out of the tyres
The van has shock absorbers and tires. As you move around the van, the level will change.
Why not cut all the way through? Did I miss that?
where do you get cardboard that big
Local supplier
Where do you get those sheets of cardboard?
Local
I can't help but wonder, what the dollar value of each cardboard template would be, based on time involved to arrive at the finished product. Some pieces would be $50. USD, while I bet, others would be $500. I'll never look at another piece of cardboard the same way. :-) ;-) :-D
That is the beauty of a Humble Road build. There is no clock ticking. I charge a fixed labor rate. Choose and install as much as you like, it doesn't matter!
Do you have template for Toyota Hiace. Thats the only reasonable and best van we have on this side of the globe.
No sorry
Thank you for your reply🥰
Are you eventually going to make permanent templates for each van model?
Yes, but only after my CNC router table is up and running.
@@HumbleRoad Yep. I just saw Part 2 and in that video you mentioned the router which answers this question, so very cool. That router should be able to increase your output immensely.
Where can you get sheets of cardboard?
Four by eight sheets of cardboard should be acquired locally
Where do you get your cardboard
Unless you are local to me, it is irrelevant. Shipping 4x8 sheets of cardboard is not cost effective. You need to source it locally and go pick it up. My supplier has a 50 sheet minimum.
I love his videos but I really wish he would tell us who he gets his supplies from. Specifically the thinsulate.
Google search: Thinsulate
@@HumbleRoad I did but all I found was amazon links
Better upload this video first , than upload part 2 , sorting order is reverse now, good video btw.
I want part one to be the newer video, followed by part two.
What state are you from..great accent
I’m in New Jersey. You got a problem wid dat? 😉
@@HumbleRoad nope. I was thinking New York..but Jersey is cool..great video thank you..
Had to give you a little New Jersey attitude! Hope you weren't offended... I think we are the only people who, in the same breath, will cuss you out and then ask if you are hungry, c'mon, sit down, have something to eat!
@@HumbleRoad absolutely not
Spent 15 years in Boston.. now back in Ireland.. your accent brought some good memories back..
“Now go get your Shinebox”…
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I tried to submit a longer e mail on your website and it kept giving me ERROR MESSAGES...please check & fix
Let me check
So you don't have to walk around saying your measurements over and over again to remember them. Put a piece of painters tape on your tape measure and write the measurements down. Good luck Tcash
Good idea!
As usual, I have questions.
1. Usually you use vans for your build. Have you ever use a Bus?
2. If I wanna have a Gaming Setup (a 500W desktop & a 22W monitor), what will I need and what I need to sacrifice for it?
3. I have seen combinations like:
-Bedroom/Garage
-Driver Seats/Living Room
-Bedroom/Living Room
-Shower/Wardrobe (you did it recently)
Is there more?
I will build a few shuttle buses, eventually. Desktop gaming, large monitors in a van? HMMM, It can be done, but I would leave that stuff home and go outside and get some fresh air...
I find most carpenters repeat measurements cause their stoned , the two go together like peas and carrots.
Constantly constantly repeating repeating ourselves ... i i hear that ..
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Chill! Let’s all be little Fonzies
Somebody forgot Rule #2
Are you actually making a new template for each new build from the same manufacturer? You don’t reuse the templates from previous builds? 🤔🤔🤔
Each of my van builds has been different. 170, 170 EXT, window van, cargo van... eventually, when I get my CNC table up, all panels and flooring will be saved as files, just lay the ply on the table and push a button!
Humble Road 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@HumbleRoad
Dang!
I was gonna suggest transferring your cardboard templates to Masonite but the wonderus CNC makes that unnecessary
1/2”?? Why so thick!?
1/2” in the garage only. The rest of the walls are 1/4”
At age 67, I must be using those same rulers...the ones that they’re making “smaller and smaller every year”. Of course, the deterioration of our eyesight has nothing to do with it...lol
It's nice to see all this but there's no way I'm gonna be over thinking might handling on my band like this there are much easier ways and tools to help you accomplish a good cut