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I call bullshit Bolters are armor-piercing grenades. Space Marines have perfect accuracy even when running 65mph! 200 Veteran Clones in cover with the best equipment COULD kill a normal Marine using a Bolt Pistol and Chainsword!!!
Fuck it you made me. BOLTER SCIENCE! .75 cal = 19mm Deuterium filling means that the projectile weighs just 6-10 grams after it exhausts its propellent. the Diamantine penetrator is less than a millimetre wide and the explosive is demonstrated to be directly behind it. 1 Gram of TNT is equivalent to one calorie, or 4.18 kilojoules Octanitrocubane is the fastest chemical explosive currently know it approaches two grams per ml and is 2.38 times more effective than TNT this means that a bolt penetrator is hitting with less than 10 kilojoules 10 kilojoules is the energy of a single AA battery or 1 gram of sugar more usefully 10Kj is like having 100kg dropped on your chest from hip high. but it's as thick as a 22gauge needle. And so every time I tried to run the numbers on it's penetration I found -the penetrator is not long enough -the penetrator is not strong enough -the penetrator does not met the minimum mass requirements for this calculation -the penetrator is not stabilized it contains less than a gram of explosive, so far from exploding into dangerous fragments killing the people around the target this round penetrates just 7mm of steel at it's maximum speed. it's pressure wave maxes out at just 140Db, as loud as a gun shot, and a person jus 20 meters away isn't even in danger of hearing damage. it's explosive fragments, if it produces them, are traveling slower than a regular .45acp (averaging just 230m/s) and finally if it detonates outside of the target, and produces random shrapnel, and that shrapnel hits someone at these concentrations it is only lethal to .3m or one foot, and can produce wounds on totally unarmoured subjects at a bare 5m. I am pleased to inform that should the round penetrate, and fragment, the target will suffer massive trauma like being in a bad car accident, without a seatbelt. but the man next to him will have to live with the nightmares because he is totally safe. Deuterium is very light, and is non-explosive, but it does burn very well in atmosphere, so when a bolt detonates outside of armour it LOOKS very impressive, kind of like a shot of petrol thrown at a fire, but produces superficial burns at best, and can actually cauterize the wounds you just spent so much effort inflicting. All of this is at it's most lethal What about point-blank? where we see most bolt shots. A bolters primary propulsion is a chemical shock detonator that flash boils compressed water ignoring that compressed water would be type seven ice and a chemical detonator is less stable lets go with electro-ignition and an actual liquid water. dropping the energy of a lightning bolt into the dribble of water in a bolt shell causes it to expand based on it's heat, running through some math I found that this steam was pushing at about 500psi Assuming that Admech know their stuff I gave the round a friction of 0.15 the lowest metal on metal friction we on earth can produce, dividing by the area of a circle and adding the mass of the unlit rocket as the work, we still need length of travel. if a bolter is in scale with the round it fires barrel length comes out to a whole 171...mm and the bolter itself becomes a more reasonable slightly larger than an MP5 finally we find that this incredible steam piston accelerates to 2.9m/s delivering with a full weight bolt 0.12 ft lbs or 0.16joules or setting a teacup down on the saucer. GW really wasn't kidding when they said it just push the bolt out the barrel. Finally, even the official mock up of a bolter magazine only fits 6 rounds At a modest RPM of 400, those six rounds are gone in .9 seconds And with a standard Marine only carrying two spare mags that's just 18 shots. a tactical marine is slightly better off with up to 32 rounds, Where is your supply line?
Ah, the quintessential Astra Militarum combat theory. If you didn't kill it, you didn't have enough men. Afterall, anyone who sneers at the lasgun, has not charged at 100,000 of them.
While I do like the idea of a WH40K unit going ham on some Star Wars faction in melee combat Ryan Wright, the game that our TH-camr here is using (with mods of course) is a bit restricting in some cases. You would have to have fully dedicated melee soldiers to do that, like the thunder hammer Terminators and the like.
In open areas like this, I figure it's more feasible for the terminator to teleport into the middle of the clone trooper army and just melee the shit out of them.
Not really needed if think about it Bolter ammo is about the size of a 40mm grenade ammo for a grenade launched its a casless exsplosive ammo that usses rocket fual to launch itself and exsplodes on impact thats enough to tear through plastoid armor that clones use
@@demonic_myst4503 Astartes doctrine is typically to shoot first, shoot hard, and advance into melee range. Terminators, being too bulky for fast attack, deploy via teleporter.
@@mazz9487 yea i know thats their main advantage over agressors , agressors are too slow even tho have better fire power they die before get into combat having shirter rsnges weapons ontop of being slow while terminators can get in close and have longer range and alao their special invunrability strategems
This just reinforces the theory that a fully equipped astartes chapter could decimate the Republic or the Empire. Now I imagine clones hiding behind a covered position only to be Kool-Aid Man'd by a Centurion
@@robknight666 And with the inbuilt targeting systems in the suit, he wouldn't be missing any shots (especially when the meat shields are grouped up like that!
That’s honestly what I was thinking. If I were the Astartes in that armor, I’d probably strategize to take out as many clumps of the enemy as possible in order for the effects of their combined energy blasts to overheat my armor. It may not break through the armor, but thermodynamics are nothing to laugh at.
@@malcire for anything commonly fielded by unmodified humanoids? Yeah. But against a literal autocannon caliber? Ehhhh… not so sure. Throw a little Imperial Engineering into the mix, and that “ehhh, not so sure” becomes a “HELL NO.”
11:15 Clone 1: Surely we have this engagement in the bag with this many clones yeah? Clone 2: My brother in Bacta, we're about to fight a suit of power armor with a rotary cannon and a fucking Calliope missile rack while packed like Gizka in a y-wing, that thing is engaging US!
The Most Unrealist part as of 2:07... The Clones still Exist by this time. Considering the Absolute Apocalyptic Rate of Fire a Storm Bolter has... and that even within this game, the Terminator does what it does best (Eat Incoming Fire like Kirby at a all you can eat buffet) The 50 clones SHOULD have been mulched by 10 to 15 seconds. I mean, I dont really care for "How Durable" clone armor is... 800+ 75. Caliber High Explosive/ Armor Piercing Rockets flying at you dont exactly care for you or what ever paper you call armor.
I mean, one is an advanced civilization wearing armor that is effective against slugs and with portable energy weapons that size vs a society that no longer advances and is using retrofitted mining equipment. While a terminator should definitely pulp a good number of troopers; realistically with the number they have their; it's unrealistic that it isn't destroyed. That's mary sue levels of efficiency.
To be fair it wouldn’t matter if they were even first order era, warhammer still has more powerful tech, armor, and weapons all around. They are nothing to a space marine much less one in terminator armor
@@SATURNAL1A but they are still (at first, until the empire just started taking whoever for soldiers) kinda clones, and pretty much operate just like them with a considerably lower tactical iq. I see where one may say prequel era.
Can't wait to see Cataphractii Terminators with Volkite Chargers show up in this Mod....hoping that one day we get to see some Inner Circle Knights Cenobium tear their way through some Heretek Droids and Filthy Clone Soldiers.
How powerful is a bolter, exactly? Clone trooper armor is capable of withstanding direct impacts of up to 300 megajoules, or concussive forces of several tons of TNT equivalent.
@@swehumorofficial dude, we’ve seen these guys get hurt from some random flying debris. Bolters are highly advanced rifles with their own blessed sort of “machine spirit” that enhances the weapon, and shoots a 75 caliber bullet, that is launched with powder and then has a thruster which continues to propel the projectile even faster, with a highly effective armor piercing tip which burrows it into even the armor of heavy vehicles and after a short timer goes off the entire thing blows up like a grenade. Even if it didn’t blow up in the clone, the hole it tore through one would rip them apart.
A clone may survive when hit in the limb. The bolter bullet would pass through the limb, likely ripping it off, giving a clone a severe, but still non-lethal wound (remember that clones are of mandalorian gene and similar training regime, and as such they likely wouldn't die of shock)
@@purpur5 if they carterized and or bandaged the wound and gave proper medical treatment, they might survive, but a one armed soldier is just a burden. Also, the bolt would most likely detonate just after leaving the arm if not in it and blow an extra chunk out of their shoulder. Also, if they get hit in the leg then it’s just even worse. And if it does pass through, then it might just hit another guy behind him and blow that sorry sob tf up. I just don’t see the poor clones winning here 😂 and no I’m not being toxic, I just acknowledge the fact that warhammer has far superior technology and armaments compared to Star Wars, espeacially when it comes to ground troops.
@@swehumorofficialassuming it’s a standard marine bolter then it fires a .75 cal self propelled mini rocket that first penetrates and then explodes inside the target, this assumes it’s a standard bolter pattern though and not using something like hellfire rounds or whatever.
well, now we know that even so much as a single space marine chapter was to stumble it's way into the star wars galaxy, anything short of blowing up their ship with them all on it won't get rid of them XD
And this, dear viewers, is a textbook example of the importance of SPACING in any combat formation, be it fireteam strength or battalion strength; real-world or fictional. I’m not saying the Astartes wouldn’t have still won most of these engagements but, had the Clones been better spaced, they would have put up a much better fight. At the very least, their blaster bolts would have made it down-range, instead of hitting the backs of their own brothers.
I agree. Maybe have them on a wider front. This prevents the over penetration of the Astartes rounds and maximizing the clones overlapping fields of fire. The slower target acquisition/destruction of the astartes will be its weakness
Important? Yes. But 100 plasma base rifles should still have beaten a solo ceramite armored Astartes. Especially since their armor is especially good (in lore) to the kinds of ammo a bolter or assault cannon fires. I mean they are going to bleed for the win; especially when hugging each other. But their weapons in those numbers should be effective. Even if the Terminator kills half of them.
SO why only add the Rotary Blaster cannon to the clones but not the RPS-6 anti tank rocket launcher? At 100 trooper strength, they would have a few of them in their company since the deployment of this many clones would mean going against vehicles.
"The Emperor Protects" Seriously, I doubted you'd bring Cyclone in, nevermind Cyclone + Assault cannon. It seemed the more enemies were spawned in close together like that, the Cyclone did even more work. Now imagine a tricked out Terminator Squad? Or a close quarters built Terminator Squad teleported in.
Storm bolter: remember clone brothers this is just a simulation Clones: good thats good Storm bolter: and i will teach you all the true pain that a terminator can make on his enemies like me Clones: rrrr-really Storm bolter: yeah and in this simulation........ you all are my enemies Clones: for the shit of forerunners protect us emperor and master chief
This doesn’t answer the question in the title. I wanted to know how many the termie could kill. He could probably keep going. You should keep adding more until he finally loses. Then we will have our answer.
You watch this and you start to understand when they say 500 terminators could conquer earth as it is today with little to no casualties. Then again, he appears to have infinite ammo and recharging rocket launchers. There has to be a limit.
@@Darakusillygoober Careful what you imply there.....that suggests that the average space marine is 35.7 times better than the average terminator. Now that's an opinion a few terminators might take issue with. 😄
@@Darakusillygoober Really? I had never heard that claim. I had heard 500 but if you say 10, I don't find myself prepared with any facts to dispute you. My orginal comment was referring to the 500 so the 14 was just in fun.
Imperium of man be like: Did you say 500k of clones are moving to assault? No worries send a dozen space marines to hold and decimate them until the fleet arrives.
@@malcire Which makes it even worse for that Terminator. Plasma regularly kills marines and Termies, that guy would be a smoldering burned out shell of armor after the first minute.
@@meager992 That's not really how it works. 40k plasma weapons are basically anti vehicle weapons they unleash massive amounts of energy. Blasters on the other hand are much weaker in comparison and have a comparable level of power to a lasrifle. A blaster can not one shot a marine.
It really doesn't help that they keep putting all the clones in a tight packed area so the AoE weapons of the Marine can wipe out massive groups at once. Every fight once missiles are introduced, the contest becomes laughable. If you actually want to see how many it handles before dying, don't give the Marine a terrain advantage.
@@IronGamingChannel I think those battles would be very good and a bit more closer. But imagine an Eldar mech walking across the battlefield would be very cool to see.
It doesn't seem like the bolsters do real damage as they should. Remeber that each bolt round is supposed to be an exploding missile that takes out the target. The 3 guys in front of him and those two guys next to him because it explodes. As opposed to one shot one kill.
Bolt rounds are designed to punch into the target and explode, they don't over penetrate, shoot through or do area damage - they're precision weapons for use in space ships and around vital equipment that they don't want to damage. So it should be One Shot, One kill.
Dude, if he spent more time shooting, than standing still, he'd WIPE THEM OUT in SECONDS. He stands there for FAR too long, doing nothing, while they're shooting. "TERMINATOR!: Execute Order 66. No survivors, please."
Except the Star Wars universe mostly uses plasma weapons; which are effective against ceramite. Additionally, trooper armor is designed to be effective against shrapnel, slugs, and explosive pressure. The Termi is still going to rip through a number of them. But this is pretty inaccurate to the different forces strengths. To the point of a blank fighting a force sensitive and their ability having an effect (like the assassins who are blanks could probably still kill a few Jedi; but their blankness shouldn't nullify force powers like it does warp ones).
@@malcire no, heat weapons are not especially effective against ceramite. Maybe you're thinking of flack armor. Stormtrooper armor can be designed against a lot of things, but the performance is quite clear. Against the Care Bears of Endor, it was absolutely useless. Against a Blastech DL-44 heavy blaster pistol, it was useless. Against all blaster pistols, it was useless. As for a terminator, they shouldn't have been able to do anything against it. An assault canon is not just a minigun, but a bolter, and as such, loaded with explosive rounds. Like the simulation showed, they should've been blasted to pieces, and when you're talking about something firing that fast, it should've wiped them out, pretty quickly. Also, let's take into consideration the legendary lack of bravery of the Stormtrooper, which is the polar opposite of the Astra Militarum, with, or with, a commissar. Fighting Jedi? I think Blakns would be completely effective against them, as there is no reason to believe Force powers are NOT from the Warp. Just because they don't know about the concept, doesn't mean it's not in effect.
I think I said this on another one of your videos, but the Marines would win so much faster if they were able to just sprint into close combat. The one thing most games and animations seem to miss with Astartes is just how fast they are. There are lore documented cases of marines running at close to 90kph, more than double peak Usain Bolt, and nothing to suggest they can't go at least some faster.
considering Clones have as good as no armor worth mentioning (esp when shot at with a Bolter, let alone the insane firerate of a stormbolter, which is basicaly 2 Bolter combined) its hard to believe that 50 clones would stand that long, even with time slowed down, it would mow them down in seconds, litteraly, since every bolt would go tru several bodies and rip them apart before it detonates and sharpnells the Clones around with either fragments of the bones or of the bolt itself, or even both
Not really, I think. A Blank just severs your connection to the Immaterium, which all humans innately possess. Psykers just have a stronger connection that allows them to do their thing. The Midi-Chloreans in a Jedi's body are very much from real space, so I'd hazard a guess and say that the Blank gene wouldn't do shit against them.
Shouldn't effect them. Blanks absorb warp shenanigans. The force is part of the material universe. Though lightsabers can't block physical rounds (they can block blaster bolts because both are charged plasma).
Shouldnt the super heated plasma burn through the terminators armor? Like i like 40k and starwars but, its super condensed heated plasma and several thousand shots too, wouldnt it have burned through the terminators shield battery as well as his armor?
theres a huge difference in scale between Clone Basters and Tau Pulse Rifles, they are both plasma guns but the Pulse Rifles are a much higher caliber, not to mention Terminator armor has a lot more Adamantium in it than standard Space Marine armor. Blasters would probably do more damage to Space Marines than Lasguns but even so it would still take a ton of shots.
I have a couple of questions. How much damage does one clone blaster gun to space Marine armor? What arl e the armor's weak points? Why aren't the clone troopers maneuvering? Not rooting for the clones but a real infantry unit with just assault rifles and grenades can outmaneuver and defeat a real tank, maybe not kill it but render it useless. I would've enjoyed it more seeing both sides try to evade just a LITTLE return fire (I would no matter WHAT kind of armor I had 😊)
generally speaking the average Blasters and the average Lasgun are more or less equal in terms of firepower, and because Blasters are plasma based weapons instead of light based that means blasters would be dealing more damage to Space Marines than Lasguns due to Ceramite being weak to Plasma. as for the lack of tactics performed by the clones, the battle was set up so the Terminator could kill as many Clones as possible, you can tell because of how badly the Clones got bottlenecked and because the Clones only had the most basic equipment, and the AI in this game is pretty bad so any tactical thinking on either side is basically nonexsistent.
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I call bullshit
Bolters are armor-piercing grenades. Space Marines have perfect accuracy even when running 65mph!
200 Veteran Clones in cover with the best equipment COULD kill a normal Marine using a Bolt Pistol and Chainsword!!!
Fuck it you made me. BOLTER SCIENCE!
.75 cal = 19mm
Deuterium filling means that the projectile weighs just 6-10 grams after it exhausts its propellent.
the Diamantine penetrator is less than a millimetre wide
and the explosive is demonstrated to be directly behind it.
1 Gram of TNT is equivalent to one calorie, or 4.18 kilojoules
Octanitrocubane is the fastest chemical explosive currently know
it approaches two grams per ml and is 2.38 times more effective than TNT
this means that a bolt penetrator is hitting with less than 10 kilojoules
10 kilojoules is the energy of a single AA battery or 1 gram of sugar
more usefully 10Kj is like having 100kg dropped on your chest from hip high.
but it's as thick as a 22gauge needle.
And so every time I tried to run the numbers on it's penetration I found
-the penetrator is not long enough
-the penetrator is not strong enough
-the penetrator does not met the minimum mass requirements for this calculation
-the penetrator is not stabilized
it contains less than a gram of explosive, so far from exploding into dangerous fragments killing the
people around the target this round penetrates just 7mm of steel at it's maximum speed.
it's pressure wave maxes out at just 140Db, as loud as a gun shot,
and a person jus 20 meters away isn't even in danger of hearing damage.
it's explosive fragments, if it produces them, are traveling slower than a regular .45acp (averaging just 230m/s)
and finally if it detonates outside of the target, and produces random shrapnel, and that shrapnel hits someone
at these concentrations it is only lethal to .3m or one foot, and can produce wounds on totally unarmoured
subjects at a bare 5m.
I am pleased to inform that should the round penetrate, and fragment, the target will suffer massive trauma
like being in a bad car accident, without a seatbelt. but the man next to him will have to live with the nightmares
because he is totally safe.
Deuterium is very light, and is non-explosive, but it does burn very well in atmosphere, so when a bolt detonates
outside of armour it LOOKS very impressive, kind of like a shot of petrol thrown at a fire, but produces superficial
burns at best, and can actually cauterize the wounds you just spent so much effort inflicting.
All of this is at it's most lethal
What about point-blank? where we see most bolt shots.
A bolters primary propulsion is a chemical shock detonator that flash boils compressed water
ignoring that compressed water would be type seven ice and a chemical detonator is less stable
lets go with electro-ignition and an actual liquid water.
dropping the energy of a lightning bolt into the dribble of water in a bolt shell causes it to expand
based on it's heat, running through some math I found that this steam was pushing at about 500psi
Assuming that Admech know their stuff I gave the round a friction of 0.15 the lowest metal on metal
friction we on earth can produce, dividing by the area of a circle and adding the mass of the unlit
rocket as the work, we still need length of travel.
if a bolter is in scale with the round it fires
barrel length comes out to a whole 171...mm
and the bolter itself becomes a more reasonable
slightly larger than an MP5
finally we find that this incredible steam piston accelerates to
2.9m/s
delivering with a full weight bolt 0.12 ft lbs
or 0.16joules or setting a teacup down on the saucer.
GW really wasn't kidding when they said it just push the bolt out the barrel.
Finally, even the official mock up of a bolter magazine only fits 6 rounds
At a modest RPM of 400, those six rounds are gone in .9 seconds
And with a standard Marine only carrying two spare mags that's just 18 shots.
a tactical marine is slightly better off with up to 32 rounds,
Where is your supply line?
Luke Skywalker Vs Exarc eldar
@@pilarrosanas5085
Which version of Luke?
Only the strongest versions can beat an Eldar Exarch in battle
Ah, the quintessential Astra Militarum combat theory. If you didn't kill it, you didn't have enough men. Afterall, anyone who sneers at the lasgun, has not charged at 100,000 of them.
Which is why the lasgun has the highest kill count of any weapon. Including Exterminatus.
Star Wars blasters are plasma weapons though. Not lasers (assuming the lasgun is actually a laser weapon which seems inconsistent in the lore).
And that would b a bad day with only 100,000 of them it'd b like if half the normal amount of guards let their gun at home and had to use their shovel
@@michaelsouslin891 that's just kreig wet dream. Katachan use their knives. No true cadian would leave their lazgun.
A lasgun does diddly. But 100,000 lasguns? That's a whole lot of diddly.
"How many Clones can one Terminator kill?"
terminator: "yes."
"How many clones do you got?"
There is no terminator. It’s the armour type, not a soldier it’s self. But otherwise funny
Boy do I wish the Terminators in this would go into melee. That would be one hell of a show.
Khorne Terminators ma boi
While I do like the idea of a WH40K unit going ham on some Star Wars faction in melee combat Ryan Wright, the game that our TH-camr here is using (with mods of course) is a bit restricting in some cases. You would have to have fully dedicated melee soldiers to do that, like the thunder hammer Terminators and the like.
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I feel the clones would take loses no doubt but they would shoot move back try to keep out of close range
not written the code for a punch yet lol
In open areas like this, I figure it's more feasible for the terminator to teleport into the middle of the clone trooper army and just melee the shit out of them.
Duel lighting claws and a teleporter.
Not really needed if think about it
Bolter ammo is about the size of a 40mm grenade ammo for a grenade launched its a casless exsplosive ammo that usses rocket fual to launch itself and exsplodes on impact thats enough to tear through plastoid armor that clones use
@@demonic_myst4503 Astartes doctrine is typically to shoot first, shoot hard, and advance into melee range. Terminators, being too bulky for fast attack, deploy via teleporter.
@@mazz9487 yea i know thats their main advantage over agressors , agressors are too slow even tho have better fire power they die before get into combat having shirter rsnges weapons ontop of being slow while terminators can get in close and have longer range and alao their special invunrability strategems
@@demonic_myst4503 Standard pattern bolter ammo is much closer in size to a 12 gauge shotgun shell, not a 40 mm grenade.
This just reinforces the theory that a fully equipped astartes chapter could decimate the Republic or the Empire. Now I imagine clones hiding behind a covered position only to be Kool-Aid Man'd by a Centurion
Oh yeah, for the emperor.
Or just gey flooded by a steel rain storm from the magpies.
This is what terminators are in the lore than vs the table top terminators
The inlore terminator wouldn't randomly become a pacifist though.
@@robknight666 that's interesting
@@robknight666 And with the inbuilt targeting systems in the suit, he wouldn't be missing any shots (especially when the meat shields are grouped up like that!
Im pretty sure they have a better chance of cooking the spacemarine inside the terminator armor before actually shooting through it
That’s honestly what I was thinking. If I were the Astartes in that armor, I’d probably strategize to take out as many clumps of the enemy as possible in order for the effects of their combined energy blasts to overheat my armor. It may not break through the armor, but thermodynamics are nothing to laugh at.
Terminator armor is highly heat resistant @@thegrimcritic5494
Good lord... the penetration on that Assault Cannon is absurd!
I believe the standard caliber for those things is 20mm, largely considered to be a lighter autocannon caliber in our modern day
30 mm cannon with depleted uranium rounds irl will go through most things and make a gooey mess of the softer stuff.
Dude those are litteraly full auto 20mm cannon strapped onto someone arm
Isn't the blast armor clone and storm trooper's wear suppose to be good at dealing with slug throughers?
@@malcire for anything commonly fielded by unmodified humanoids? Yeah. But against a literal autocannon caliber? Ehhhh… not so sure. Throw a little Imperial Engineering into the mix, and that “ehhh, not so sure” becomes a “HELL NO.”
11:15
Clone 1: Surely we have this engagement in the bag with this many clones yeah?
Clone 2: My brother in Bacta, we're about to fight a suit of power armor with a rotary cannon and a fucking Calliope missile rack while packed like Gizka in a y-wing, that thing is engaging US!
Terminator: « it’s a nice day out today »
Clones:*hiding behind their brothers mountains of bodies.
Then you wonder why terminator armour is a bitch to make
10:00-10:02 Look at this on the right side of the bridge, for above it.
I think this Clone there, deserves the Medal The Hightest Yard.
Love it when the Clone Trooper says "That's a hit!" Than explodes 🤣😂😅
TFW you're a non-compliant world during the Great Crusade
terminator, looking like a sparkler, casually: "no mercy!"
Short Answer: YES!
Long Answer: DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA
Right Answer: I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!
The Most Unrealist part as of 2:07... The Clones still Exist by this time. Considering the Absolute Apocalyptic Rate of Fire a Storm Bolter has... and that even within this game, the Terminator does what it does best (Eat Incoming Fire like Kirby at a all you can eat buffet) The 50 clones SHOULD have been mulched by 10 to 15 seconds. I mean, I dont really care for "How Durable" clone armor is... 800+ 75. Caliber High Explosive/ Armor Piercing Rockets flying at you dont exactly care for you or what ever paper you call armor.
I mean, one is an advanced civilization wearing armor that is effective against slugs and with portable energy weapons that size vs a society that no longer advances and is using retrofitted mining equipment. While a terminator should definitely pulp a good number of troopers; realistically with the number they have their; it's unrealistic that it isn't destroyed. That's mary sue levels of efficiency.
14:02 hold on guys i need to take a quick breather. 14:29 okay I'm good, back to slaughter
This is what happens when you send prequel era clones against a marine with ARMOR SAVES...
what are prequel era clones
@@SATURNAL1A clones… from the prequels.
To be fair it wouldn’t matter if they were even first order era, warhammer still has more powerful tech, armor, and weapons all around. They are nothing to a space marine much less one in terminator armor
@@blacksabbath5300 clones are only prequel era. the troopers after that are all stormtroopers 😐
@@SATURNAL1A but they are still (at first, until the empire just started taking whoever for soldiers) kinda clones, and pretty much operate just like them with a considerably lower tactical iq. I see where one may say prequel era.
Shouldn't the terminator be advancing in order to engage them in melee, I mean that usually a the space Marine tactic.
A lot more than that if the simulation was carried out in a spacehulk. The terminators are especially adept in such an enviroment.
5 terminators vs 1000 rebel solders
5 Termies with missile launchers? I think a squirrel vs a grizzly bear would be a fairer fight 💀
Where in the Codex Astartes does it say after killing 350 Clone Trooper one must take a short nap. I missed that chapter 🤣😂😅
Codex Astartes is piece of bullcrap
Can't wait to see Cataphractii Terminators with Volkite Chargers show up in this Mod....hoping that one day we get to see some Inner Circle Knights Cenobium tear their way through some Heretek Droids and Filthy Clone Soldiers.
are you telling me this mod has 30k units too
The single bolter Terminator set up reminds me of that scene in Robocop when he gets shot up in the car park by all those cops
A clone absolutely should not survive any damage from a bolter and I think I’ve seen that happen many times in this video…
How powerful is a bolter, exactly? Clone trooper armor is capable of withstanding direct impacts of up to 300 megajoules, or concussive forces of several tons of TNT equivalent.
@@swehumorofficial dude, we’ve seen these guys get hurt from some random flying debris. Bolters are highly advanced rifles with their own blessed sort of “machine spirit” that enhances the weapon, and shoots a 75 caliber bullet, that is launched with powder and then has a thruster which continues to propel the projectile even faster, with a highly effective armor piercing tip which burrows it into even the armor of heavy vehicles and after a short timer goes off the entire thing blows up like a grenade. Even if it didn’t blow up in the clone, the hole it tore through one would rip them apart.
A clone may survive when hit in the limb. The bolter bullet would pass through the limb, likely ripping it off, giving a clone a severe, but still non-lethal wound (remember that clones are of mandalorian gene and similar training regime, and as such they likely wouldn't die of shock)
@@purpur5 if they carterized and or bandaged the wound and gave proper medical treatment, they might survive, but a one armed soldier is just a burden. Also, the bolt would most likely detonate just after leaving the arm if not in it and blow an extra chunk out of their shoulder. Also, if they get hit in the leg then it’s just even worse. And if it does pass through, then it might just hit another guy behind him and blow that sorry sob tf up. I just don’t see the poor clones winning here 😂 and no I’m not being toxic, I just acknowledge the fact that warhammer has far superior technology and armaments compared to Star Wars, espeacially when it comes to ground troops.
@@swehumorofficialassuming it’s a standard marine bolter then it fires a .75 cal self propelled mini rocket that first penetrates and then explodes inside the target, this assumes it’s a standard bolter pattern though and not using something like hellfire rounds or whatever.
this is a real good trade considering only 1 in a million recruits even become normal astartes and only the finest astartes become terminators.
well, now we know that even so much as a single space marine chapter was to stumble it's way into the star wars galaxy, anything short of blowing up their ship with them all on it won't get rid of them XD
Clone #37465: is he out of missiles?
Now let's see how many a dreadnought can kill
And this, dear viewers, is a textbook example of the importance of SPACING in any combat formation, be it fireteam strength or battalion strength; real-world or fictional.
I’m not saying the Astartes wouldn’t have still won most of these engagements but, had the Clones been better spaced, they would have put up a much better fight. At the very least, their blaster bolts would have made it down-range, instead of hitting the backs of their own brothers.
I agree. Maybe have them on a wider front.
This prevents the over penetration of the Astartes rounds and maximizing the clones overlapping fields of fire. The slower target acquisition/destruction of the astartes will be its weakness
Important? Yes. But 100 plasma base rifles should still have beaten a solo ceramite armored Astartes. Especially since their armor is especially good (in lore) to the kinds of ammo a bolter or assault cannon fires. I mean they are going to bleed for the win; especially when hugging each other. But their weapons in those numbers should be effective. Even if the Terminator kills half of them.
Clones just shooting some firecrackers and the terminator is loving it.
Brother! This action is non compliant of the Codex Astartes! YOU MUST GET CLOSER!
SO why only add the Rotary Blaster cannon to the clones but not the RPS-6 anti tank rocket launcher? At 100 trooper strength, they would have a few of them in their company since the deployment of this many clones would mean going against vehicles.
I like it when he lays down for a rest
Tyranids vs Jedi.
....and now the Tyranids have the Force...
"The Emperor Protects"
Seriously, I doubted you'd bring Cyclone in, nevermind Cyclone + Assault cannon. It seemed the more enemies were spawned in close together like that, the Cyclone did even more work. Now imagine a tricked out Terminator Squad? Or a close quarters built Terminator Squad teleported in.
Storm bolter: remember clone brothers this is just a simulation
Clones: good thats good
Storm bolter: and i will teach you all the true pain that a terminator can make on his enemies like me
Clones: rrrr-really
Storm bolter: yeah and in this simulation........ you all are my enemies
Clones: for the shit of forerunners protect us emperor and master chief
Very bizarre.
1) what do you think a blaster is? (Hint: not a lasgun)
2) why aren’t the clones spreading out?
3) range of engagement?
Modded MOW is definitely not accurate when it comes to how strong characters are and how they fight.
That's an awful lot of plasma rounds for ceramite to take directly. Even in the first engagement.
This doesn’t answer the question in the title. I wanted to know how many the termie could kill. He could probably keep going. You should keep adding more until he finally loses. Then we will have our answer.
You watch this and you start to understand when they say 500 terminators could conquer earth as it is today with little to no casualties. Then again, he appears to have infinite ammo and recharging rocket launchers. There has to be a limit.
and infinite hp...
It would take only 14 space marines with constant suppliment to conquer real life earth with current tech
@@Darakusillygoober Careful what you imply there.....that suggests that the average space marine is 35.7 times better than the average terminator. Now that's an opinion a few terminators might take issue with. 😄
@@malachiXX it needs less than 10 terminators to conquer cutrent tech earth
@@Darakusillygoober Really? I had never heard that claim. I had heard 500 but if you say 10, I don't find myself prepared with any facts to dispute you. My orginal comment was referring to the 500 so the 14 was just in fun.
Imperium of man be like: Did you say 500k of clones are moving to assault? No worries send a dozen space marines to hold and decimate them until the fleet arrives.
no weapon jams and all that sustained fire bonus too. Good run
Damn, this is like watchign the Astartes short all over again.
Dang. Those lasers are extremely weak and the armor just terrible. They are gonna need everyone to have rocket launchers like Super Battle Droids.
Blasters aren't lasers. They are plasma weapons. It's why lightsabers can deflect them.
@@malcire Which makes it even worse for that Terminator. Plasma regularly kills marines and Termies, that guy would be a smoldering burned out shell of armor after the first minute.
@@meager992 That's not really how it works. 40k plasma weapons are basically anti vehicle weapons they unleash massive amounts of energy. Blasters on the other hand are much weaker in comparison and have a comparable level of power to a lasrifle. A blaster can not one shot a marine.
It really doesn't help that they keep putting all the clones in a tight packed area so the AoE weapons of the Marine can wipe out massive groups at once.
Every fight once missiles are introduced, the contest becomes laughable.
If you actually want to see how many it handles before dying, don't give the Marine a terrain advantage.
My favorite part is the Wilhelm Scream used for the clones’ death sound.
The Terminator should be walking forward , they don't loose any accuracy when moving and they prefer to get up close so they can punch stuff
In the Emperor's name, I will be a bulwark against your puny imperium. Burn in Holy Fire!
14:39 That's a Heavy 2D6? damn!
How about Eldar or Krieg vs CIS?
Will do!
@@IronGamingChannel
I think those battles would be very good and a bit more closer. But imagine an Eldar mech walking across the battlefield would be very cool to see.
i think there may be some ballence issues. The pew pews seem to be less combat effective then throwing a stone.
@@alcazarbane5680 thanks for straitening that out for me.
It doesn't seem like the bolsters do real damage as they should. Remeber that each bolt round is supposed to be an exploding missile that takes out the target. The 3 guys in front of him and those two guys next to him because it explodes.
As opposed to one shot one kill.
Bolt rounds are designed to punch into the target and explode, they don't over penetrate, shoot through or do area damage - they're precision weapons for use in space ships and around vital equipment that they don't want to damage. So it should be One Shot, One kill.
Dude, if he spent more time shooting, than standing still, he'd WIPE THEM OUT in SECONDS. He stands there for FAR too long, doing nothing, while they're shooting. "TERMINATOR!: Execute Order 66. No survivors, please."
Except the Star Wars universe mostly uses plasma weapons; which are effective against ceramite. Additionally, trooper armor is designed to be effective against shrapnel, slugs, and explosive pressure. The Termi is still going to rip through a number of them. But this is pretty inaccurate to the different forces strengths. To the point of a blank fighting a force sensitive and their ability having an effect (like the assassins who are blanks could probably still kill a few Jedi; but their blankness shouldn't nullify force powers like it does warp ones).
@@malcire no, heat weapons are not especially effective against ceramite. Maybe you're thinking of flack armor. Stormtrooper armor can be designed against a lot of things, but the performance is quite clear. Against the Care Bears of Endor, it was absolutely useless. Against a Blastech DL-44 heavy blaster pistol, it was useless. Against all blaster pistols, it was useless. As for a terminator, they shouldn't have been able to do anything against it. An assault canon is not just a minigun, but a bolter, and as such, loaded with explosive rounds. Like the simulation showed, they should've been blasted to pieces, and when you're talking about something firing that fast, it should've wiped them out, pretty quickly. Also, let's take into consideration the legendary lack of bravery of the Stormtrooper, which is the polar opposite of the Astra Militarum, with, or with, a commissar. Fighting Jedi? I think Blakns would be completely effective against them, as there is no reason to believe Force powers are NOT from the Warp. Just because they don't know about the concept, doesn't mean it's not in effect.
I think I said this on another one of your videos, but the Marines would win so much faster if they were able to just sprint into close combat.
The one thing most games and animations seem to miss with Astartes is just how fast they are.
There are lore documented cases of marines running at close to 90kph, more than double peak Usain Bolt, and nothing to suggest they can't go at least some faster.
He's got my son and I watching these, we're really interested. But we want to see Warhammer versus Star Trek
200,000, with a million more well under way.
I love seeing 300 cloně troopers gone in a matter of mere seconds
7:59 jeesus man, poor clones
Terminator: “ meet the might of the chapters finest DIE! “
4:15 Terminator go Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
"YOU WILL NOT PASS!"
Dude that missile volley decimated
Needs melee, Assault marines and chainswords with bolter pistols. That said, I couldn't do anything like this Kudos
This game has a very pathetic melee system.
That assult Term vs is glorious . what a badass
im a war hammer fan but after seeing these videos after a good 10 of them i want to know do any clones actually win lol ... nope
Was anyone else waiting for the Space Marine to say "Roger Roger"? Or would that have been too cruel?
Space marines are like if jedis used full beskar armor and didn't hold back on the carnage
the courage of those clones to stand back up nd keep firing is outstanding
"How many clones can one terminator kill?"
Yes.
im surprised that bullets werent going THROUGH the clones into OTHER clones behind em xD
thanks for the heart it seems since this comment i have fallen into a time of heresy...
Next: 10,000 clones vs Sly Marbo
Not really fair to have the all bottlenecked into a tight spot. Obe volley takes out a tenth of their number
considering Clones have as good as no armor worth mentioning (esp when shot at with a Bolter, let alone the insane firerate of a stormbolter, which is basicaly 2 Bolter combined) its hard to believe that 50 clones would stand that long, even with time slowed down, it would mow them down in seconds, litteraly, since every bolt would go tru several bodies and rip them apart before it detonates and sharpnells the Clones around with either fragments of the bones or of the bolt itself, or even both
I REFUSE to believe a storm bolter would lose to 100 clones
New title: How long can a Clone Trooper last against the Emperors Finest?
Custodian or lucifer blacks?
@@meh5469 Neither, Space Marines.
Custodes are the Emperors perfection and Lucifer Blacks are just highly trained guardsmen
What if a Jedi or a Sith were to encounter a Blank or a Culexus Assassin, will his/her force powers be nullified?
Not really, I think. A Blank just severs your connection to the Immaterium, which all humans innately possess. Psykers just have a stronger connection that allows them to do their thing. The Midi-Chloreans in a Jedi's body are very much from real space, so I'd hazard a guess and say that the Blank gene wouldn't do shit against them.
Shouldn't effect them. Blanks absorb warp shenanigans. The force is part of the material universe. Though lightsabers can't block physical rounds (they can block blaster bolts because both are charged plasma).
This must be post Lasik surgery for the troopers, I don't see shots flying off into the distance towards the buildings
well now we know who would win between the Imperium of man or the Grand Republic
10k vs a dreadnought?
Shouldnt the super heated plasma burn through the terminators armor? Like i like 40k and starwars but, its super condensed heated plasma and several thousand shots too, wouldnt it have burned through the terminators shield battery as well as his armor?
SW blasters aren't = astartes plasmaguns
theres a huge difference in scale between Clone Basters and Tau Pulse Rifles, they are both plasma guns but the Pulse Rifles are a much higher caliber, not to mention Terminator armor has a lot more Adamantium in it than standard Space Marine armor.
Blasters would probably do more damage to Space Marines than Lasguns but even so it would still take a ton of shots.
for a terminator, this dude really be fighting like a tau
how do we see the stats for all these units?
the clones would be just running if he walks up to them with a constant stream of fire and uses his power fist^^
Император защитит нас! Смерть еретикам :) но за клонов обидно, неудивительно что империя проиграла
The bolt rounds should be more explosive. And is the storm bolter shooting two rounds pre shot.
Please put A full 10 man unit of Sanguinary Guard and Dante vs 1000 clones. c:
The terminators in macrage fight a harder battle against tyranids
Pretty sure the clones would win way more easily if they just spread out and take defensive positions. Then they could even Kill a couple Terminators.
Its all frontal assault-they would have him doing the mexican hat dance if they could flank him.
How mant Bobbas or Jangos can 1 Angry Marine kill?
All of them. Video over!
Oh so now the clones get to use specialized weapons, yea totally good timing
I have a couple of questions. How much damage does one clone blaster gun to space Marine armor? What arl e the armor's weak points? Why aren't the clone troopers maneuvering? Not rooting for the clones but a real infantry unit with just assault rifles and grenades can outmaneuver and defeat a real tank, maybe not kill it but render it useless.
I would've enjoyed it more seeing both sides try to evade just a LITTLE return fire (I would no matter WHAT kind of armor I had 😊)
generally speaking the average Blasters and the average Lasgun are more or less equal in terms of firepower, and because Blasters are plasma based weapons instead of light based that means blasters would be dealing more damage to Space Marines than Lasguns due to Ceramite being weak to Plasma.
as for the lack of tactics performed by the clones, the battle was set up so the Terminator could kill as many Clones as possible, you can tell because of how badly the Clones got bottlenecked and because the Clones only had the most basic equipment, and the AI in this game is pretty bad so any tactical thinking on either side is basically nonexsistent.
He can keep killing their ranks run out or his armor gives out because he's using all his ammo then going into melee
How many bullets and chain fist fuel does the terminator have? About THAT MANY!
I know this is just whatevs but; the terminator would be advancing on them and the troopers would probably be more spread out
40k space marines are the toughest and strongest so it be like you need a army to take them out that also plastic vs titanium is the major difference
Ah nice, much more interesting like this