Seiko were founded in 1881. The more I look into their history, the more fascinated I am. I also think Seiko are the best watch company in the world too. They truly are innovators.
Excellent video and beautiful brand! Thats the magic of seiko, you can start and finish your collection with only 1 brand, a brand with an amazing and full of accomplishment history. Started with a 5kx, then a king samurai and now my daily wear a spb143 (62mas), amazing watch and the accuracy is great if you know the watch positional variance. I can keep it within cosc depending on how i leave it at night, truly is amazing. In a year or two hope to get the new marinemaster SLA077, cant wait to have an 8L35 diver!
Verissimo ,anche io sono riuscito ad individuare come posizionarlo per la notte , se devo anticipare lo metto con il fondello sul comodino, se devo posticipare lo metto in verticale con la corona in basso. Parlo del Spb 143 e Spb 147 li ho tutti e due 😊.
@@rbybcc very good! for me to gain seconds is dial down and to lose seconds is crown down, watch is always running +5 or - 3 all of the time like that!
Eric-excellent video, the 8L movements are fantastic, love the 047, love the 051. McMahon has a fantastic collection of Seiko divers. Seiko and Rolex I believe are the only brands that do everything in house.
Rolex are only in house because they bought their manufacture Aegler in 2004. Before that, being ‘in-house’ was hardly ever mentioned when ranking brands.
Very comprehensive explanation of the Seiko line.. something for everyone including myself! Always been a Seiko diver junky since the 70s.. now in a 10 watch collection, 5 are Seiko… they range from an orange Seiko 5 GMT to the black Uemura ltd. The one thing they all have in common is excellent lume and a vibrant dial! Although I have other high end Swiss watches, there is no shame in wearing a nice Seiko!
I really like this perspective. And I LOVE Seiko. Adore it. My only criticism of Seiko is their marketing. I 100% agree with you that people should look at the brand and go, “wow! I can go from a C Class to an AMG?” Unfortunately I think most people look at it and go, “oh, I can get a Yaris and then a Corolla, then a Land Cruiser…. Then you want me to pay how much for a GX??? But it’s just a Land Cruiser with a facelift…” I think Rolex/Tudor is a great example of what great marketing can be and what it can do. Tudor is no longer the “poor man’s Rolex.” It’s aspirational from bottom to top. I hope Seiko gets better at Marketing so that more people will enjoy and respect them the way us watch enthusiasts do. In the meantime, more for us 😉
@@latinballa88 Couldn't agree more as they really dont appear to care what anyone thinks of them - to say they are set in there ways is a huge understatement. As a Marketer, I see so many opportunities to fix the brand. Still my favorite brand and people that "get it" "get it"but most dont. Thanks so much for watching.and commenting.
Wow Erik fantastic video brother. I actually have three watches in my collection that almost match completely the examples you’ve shown . I own the Seiko 5 SRPK11J1, the SPB105J1 and actually own the same Marine Master 300 SLA047J1 like you’re featuring in this video. This SLA047J1 MM300 is without a doubt the very best diver I’ve ever owned if not ever made.
on point, i think that is what most people will do when they're into seiko. I started the rabbit hole 15 years ago with an SRP043 because i could not afford a Sinn. I've stayed in that entry to mid range for a while with skx007, monster, turtles etc. I am financially in a better place now and i could not stop buying MM300s. i currently own 5 of them, going to be 6th soon if the deal comes through next week. So yeah i go through local market places and when i see an SBDX001 / 017 for sale, i will try to make an offer. i also have a couple of darth tunas and a quartz 300 tuna. I prefer the older ones with marinemasters writings and they are such good looking watch. Some would complain about the weight and the height of these watch, but i love it. when i wear it, i know i have a watch on. I have an sbdx001 that i picked up in not so perfect condition, scratches, dings and a couple of strip thread on the crown. had it fully serviced and I wear it as a daily, i dont have to care about it being banged and it still keeps like you've said +- 1 to 3 seconds a day. Love the MM300s
@@samyilterziev3887 Yeah, thats where im at and feel that ice found the perfect MM300 and band and clasp set up. But, no doubt, Ill find a next project! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I just bought the MM300 (SLA047) and it arrived yesterday. It’s an outstanding watch, in my opinion. I bought the MM200R (SPB187) last year, and the SLA is just better in every regard, although the MM200R is no slouch, either. I really like Seiko divers, with a Turtle, Monster, Samurai and Darth 62MAS also in my collection, but the MM300 is the top of the mountain for me. Good luck finding yours!
Totally agree, i started with the SNk809 (7S26 movement) and now i jumped to mm200 gmt (not sure if it is mm but i felt it was the same than the mm300 of 2024 without the gmt, I know mm300 has nicer movement but it was 2 time expensive and i better going by steps)
@@sarosok18 Thanks for the positive comment. You can get some great deals on the used market 1500-2000. Still not cheap but worth the money! Thanks for watching.
I think if you are collecting watches long enough you eventually realize that Seiko is the perfect addition for any collector. I used to not noticing them at all but recently the only watches I want are all either Seiko or G-shock.
I’m U.K working class, Seiko look out for people like me. A lot of Swiss brands are unobtainable and I can’t stand the snobbery. I recently heard that AP won’t even let you in their shop if you’re not a member. I don’t play these games, and I would feel uncomfortable being in a club that does. Seiko were founded in 1881. I also think they are the best watch company too !
I bought a seiko 5 sports because it reminded me of my father with the skeleton bracelet. I then picked up a GS gmt and then king Seiko. I enjoy them but my Rolex submariner Starbucks and green mint date just are still unbeatable. I also have the Tudor Pro, Pelagos blue date, opaline gmt and BB41. I think if they work on a Tfit they would make out like a bandit.
Good review of some nice seikos. As a thought......micro brands used to be better value , and specs than seiko. I have found that isnt always the case anymore. You forgot to show the mono block case on the marine master. Unique among divers. ❤
@@Koishishibaman Here is a full review of the MM300: th-cam.com/video/VUlmGbGZogQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ASUiGQlBpKqeSF07 Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@erikkinginnyc thanks for the link. They are a special watch, but not for everyone. I have a 039 I fitted a strapco bor bracelet to. Better than a strap for me. Balances the hockey puc watch head😂
I just came upon your videos a little while ago and I love them. This might be off the topic here but it's for anyone, I just got today a Bulova lunar pilot watch the leather and NATO strap kit, was wondering if I should keep it or send it back for a Seiko watch if they are that good. Thanks
That's a great watch with a great history, have only heard it wears a little bit big but if you feel comfortable with it it's a great watch, if not should look at the seiko solar speed timers (if you want a chrono), they wear a lot better than the lunar pilot and also the finishing and details you get for the money are pretty good.
@@ramsfan709 As was said the Speedtimer is great BUT the Bulova you have is a great watch and if you like it then keep it! A great watch with great history!! Thanks for watching.
I have the Seiko SJE101J1 (like the tier below grand) and it’s honestly the best dive dial I’ve ever seen. Seiko just dominates for quality at quite a few different price points 😊
I am 59 and a 100% Rolex-Tudor fan and occasianlly get pulled by a Seiko release such as the new SPB 317 however there several things that make me think Seiko drops the ball all to often and now a days are asking way to much for whatone gets. One is the fact that they use plastic on the movement holder and date changer. The other is so may micro brands offer so much more for the same money with either a ETA\Sellita movement or even the NH35.
@@24hourgmtchannel64 At the lower end you are correct as they can be a mess. As you move up ($$$) things do change. Can't deny some of the value propositions of some micro brands. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@erikkinginnyc I have to admit I am liking the spb317. It's a re-release of the short two year run 6105-8000 right before the 1970 Captain Willard. I started getting really interested in the history of the 6105-8000 and 6105-8110 but then discovered while labeled as divers by Seiko, they didn't have screw down crowns. The modern re-releases do however but this is yet another reason why I find Seiko odd. I get how some gush over a spring drive but for that kind of money I'm going the Rolex route without a second thought.
You cannot beat the various designs on their Divers . I have a few , Monster , Willard , king Turtle 62 mas and the Rolls Royce of Seiko , the LX Springdrive in moss green and titanium . It's big and fits well on my 7.5 inch wrist . It's a redesignied MM300 which I bought mint but used at $3400 ( RRP at $6000 plus tax ) I could have bought a Black Bay but they are decent but dull. Springdrive is the best movement in horolgy and this , limited to 500 made , has so much character and is accurate to a few seconds per month . With no beats it hardly needs servicing over my lifetime . Problem is I have not found a better Diver , so I go for great design . Like the Horizon Nemo, Direnzo or the Titanium Citezin small seconds . I believe in great design and novel character which is where Seiko Divers shine. I cannot think of another brand that has the range of divers
I know a lot of people complain about their unsigned crowns and I think it's justified. I miss the days of the $300 SARBS. I still love Seiko but just wish they would sign their crowns again in the $1000 and less category.
Good point. I can afford a Rolex, but not only are they overpriced, but they are made hard to get. If Rolex wants my money, they should make it easy for me to get one. I won't get sucked into the marketing gimmick of making things scarce so people will run after them more. Too much effort just for a watch, and too sheep-like behavior.
@@erikkinginnyc Oh, but since your video was about Seiko and not Rolex, I have to add that I do agree with your observations about Seiko. That company just resonates with watch enthusiasts. Many have started with Seiko, and the brand will get the respect it deserves anywhere. And while I have Swiss and German watches (except Rolexes), I found myself craving for a Seiko that would fit my small wrist. Then, I found the SPB 411 Navigator Timer reissue. Again, accessibility, at 38.5mm, and for a price I was willing to pay. It's a nice feeling to be able to walk into an authorized dealer, and walk out with the watch you want. My uncle, a scuba and sky diver, has had his Willard on his wrist since 1978. Never serviced. He once brought it to the service center to be checked. When they asked him if there was something wrong with it and he answered no, they said then there was no reason to open it up. He's now 70 and I just saw him a couple of weeks ago wearing it. Since I was a kid, I've never seen any other watch on his wrist.
@@WordMadeFlesh777 You and I may be the few that think that. The ratcheting MM300 clasp is my favorite ever and trying to get one pvd or dlc coated for my next project. Thanks for watching.
In the 21st Century, pretty much all multi-national corporations have given up on offering any consistent parity of price and quality. I've purchased top of the line products which were massively disappointing, and I've purchased entry-level or basic products that have lasted for decades. It would be great if a TH-camr could get an American marketing executive from Seiko on their channel to answer some questions about some of the questionable decisions Seiko has made in the last several years. Perhaps, there is some rhyme or reason that the peasants are not privy to. For example: It SEEMS like Seiko has 200 dive watches out at any one time. It's confusing as hell. And while I will agree, I have never had a Seiko watch stop working, A LOT of the Seiko watches that I have seen in the last 10 years or so, appear 'cheap'.........sloppy bezels, tinny stamped clasps, sub-par bracelets, miscellaneous QC issues. Seems impossible to market Seiko as a competitor to higher tier brands, when they have such mediocre/generic products at the lower end. 10+ years ago, a Toyota Corolla was built as solidly as a 4Runner. Somewhat apples and oranges, but THE POINT is that the build quality was similar (enough), whether you were spending $25,000 for a Corolla or $50,000 for a 4Runner. Most people would not spend +$2,000 on Seiko. I don't have a problem with it. I would buy the $3,000 (black dial) SLA021 TODAY if it had, "Marinemaster" on it instead of that Prospex logo. There are too many micro brands out there nowadays that ARE building very solidly built watches, for Seiko to get complacent. Another example is the Prospex "X" logo. That X logo is on $800 Seiko divers AND The Marinemaster. I do not work in marketing or advertising, so it SEEMS asinine to me. That would be like Mercedes Benz slapping the AMG badge on their entry-level class series. IT CHEAPENS THE BRAND. "If every Mercedes is an AMG, then AMG means NOTHING." Initially, I thought it was some type of copyright infringement issue with another watch company............but THEN, they put Marinemaster back on the dial of newer releases. Seiko is all over the place.
After years and countless models tried and seen in person I have concluded seiko are just shit watches. I don’t get the obsession. Bad alignment, bad bezel movement, trash clasps, worse bracelets, ugly designs. I will never understand.
@@scottsalom3891 Agree as profit from Hardlex cant be that great. I did have an original MM300 with Hardlex and never a problem - could be that I was careful. Thanks for watching
As much as I love seiko they are rubbish brand. Over priced, inaccurate movements, poor QC , and very thick watches for their divers to chronographs on you get into $1k plus mark
The best watch company is the Swiss one that when you go into a AD you can't actually buy one for 3 to 4 years and the price is way over inflated for a stainless steel watch, oh wait it's special soft SS, Oyster steel😂
@@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy You have a point. So I think some are overpriced - yes! If you know Seiko you know what to buy and fortunately great deals on the secondary market and used! Thanks for watching.
I've owned multiple Seikos over the years, I'm familiar with their history as well as their current catalog. I still wear a Seiko watch as my daily. I love their design, and appreciate every era of their watchmaking. Except this one. They are turning into crap, both in terms of watches as well as movements. They don't care about quality control and they cannot read the market to save their life. They are easily the worst big name company in the industry right now. There are multiple reasons for that. Nothing lasts forever, including reputation.
@@kresimirpleic Agree with rep but cant say they dont have something for everyone. Additionally, the SLAs I've had have been as good as any watch! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Seiko should first stop producing bad QC watches. Chinese manufactured micro brands and AliExpress brands are shaming them. I'm still happy with my Alpinist but that's the last I've purchased after so many misaligned divers I had. I respect their movements that are used by many micro brands. Maybe a better strategy for them is to leave the low end watch market and compete on mid-tier to luxury segment.
Seiko = Horrible QC. Poor accuracy. No on the fly micro adjust clasp. Way overpriced for what it is. Save your money, save more and buy yourself a real watch. Buy yourself an Omega.
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Great video, refreshing to see other creators not just jumping on the current Seiko bashing bandwagon, subscribed!
@@AverageBros Thanks so much as a fan of your channel! Thanks for the kind words.
A lot of these channels are also paid by "Hommage brands" to review their watches and alot of them are crazy about swatch releases...
Seiko were founded in 1881. The more I look into their history, the more fascinated I am. I also think Seiko are the best watch company in the world too. They truly are innovators.
Great explanation on Seiko, I was unaware Seiko had such a prestige dive watch, the green dial is unreal.
@@kevinmuso8204 Thanks for the kind words and for watching!
I'm almost 40 and I'd still wear the first watch. I love Seiko watches
@@jancyvideos3419 They are everywhere - Seiko watches that live forever! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Excellent video and beautiful brand! Thats the magic of seiko, you can start and finish your collection with only 1 brand, a brand with an amazing and full of accomplishment history. Started with a 5kx, then a king samurai and now my daily wear a spb143 (62mas), amazing watch and the accuracy is great if you know the watch positional variance. I can keep it within cosc depending on how i leave it at night, truly is amazing. In a year or two hope to get the new marinemaster SLA077, cant wait to have an 8L35 diver!
@@Mexicanfood182 Exactly! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@@erikkinginnyc thank you for the great content!
Verissimo ,anche io sono riuscito ad individuare come posizionarlo per la notte , se devo anticipare lo metto con il fondello sul comodino, se devo posticipare lo metto in verticale con la corona in basso. Parlo del Spb 143 e Spb 147 li ho tutti e due 😊.
@@rbybcc very good! for me to gain seconds is dial down and to lose seconds is crown down, watch is always running +5 or - 3 all of the time like that!
Love your enthusiasm, passion & creativity for watches & your videos... subscribed!!
@@tw238 Thanks so much for the compliment and for watching.
Eric-excellent video, the 8L movements are fantastic, love the 047, love the 051. McMahon has a fantastic collection of Seiko divers. Seiko and Rolex I believe are the only brands that do everything in house.
@@paulbugoni2846 Yes, truly in house. Thanks so much for watching.
Rolex are only in house because they bought their manufacture Aegler in 2004. Before that, being ‘in-house’ was hardly ever mentioned when ranking brands.
Very comprehensive explanation of the Seiko line.. something for everyone including myself! Always been a Seiko diver junky since the 70s.. now in a 10 watch collection, 5 are Seiko… they range from an orange Seiko 5 GMT to the black Uemura ltd. The one thing they all have in common is excellent lume and a vibrant dial! Although I have other high end Swiss watches, there is no shame in wearing a nice Seiko!
@@jtpalooki7757 Om with ya 100% and love the Uemura! Thanks for watching.
I really like this perspective. And I LOVE Seiko. Adore it. My only criticism of Seiko is their marketing. I 100% agree with you that people should look at the brand and go, “wow! I can go from a C Class to an AMG?” Unfortunately I think most people look at it and go, “oh, I can get a Yaris and then a Corolla, then a Land Cruiser…. Then you want me to pay how much for a GX??? But it’s just a Land Cruiser with a facelift…”
I think Rolex/Tudor is a great example of what great marketing can be and what it can do. Tudor is no longer the “poor man’s Rolex.” It’s aspirational from bottom to top. I hope Seiko gets better at Marketing so that more people will enjoy and respect them the way us watch enthusiasts do. In the meantime, more for us 😉
@@latinballa88 Couldn't agree more as they really dont appear to care what anyone thinks of them - to say they are set in there ways is a huge understatement. As a Marketer, I see so many opportunities to fix the brand. Still my favorite brand and people that "get it" "get it"but most dont. Thanks so much for watching.and commenting.
Seiko divers ISO 6425 rated. When you look at what goes into the specifications and testing for it to pass is impressive. Great watches.
@@TheZanshen Om with ya. Thanks for watching and commenting.
As a Seikopath I enjoyed this vid!
@@doctorbohr1585 Glad you did as I did too. Thanks for watching and commenting.
That makes so much sense. Interesting to see that life cycle put together. Great video.
@@doreen.a Thanks for the support!
Wow Erik fantastic video brother. I actually have three watches in my collection that almost match completely the examples you’ve shown . I own the Seiko 5 SRPK11J1, the SPB105J1 and actually own the same Marine Master 300 SLA047J1 like you’re featuring in this video. This SLA047J1 MM300 is without a doubt the very best diver I’ve ever owned if not ever made.
@@1968jpy We're a rare breed that can appreciate a watch fully for its capabilities instead of just name. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@ looking forward to see what Marine Master you’re getting 👍🏻
Great video. I love my Seikos. I also have many other brands who use Seiko mechanicals and quartz, all great.
@@a0r0a7 Glad to hear. As I say, something for everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have seiko tunas in my collection along with Rolex watches, and i pick up my seikos all the time 🔥👌
@@Matt-uq3in Me too! Love all different types of watches. Thanks for watching and commenting.
on point, i think that is what most people will do when they're into seiko. I started the rabbit hole 15 years ago with an SRP043 because i could not afford a Sinn. I've stayed in that entry to mid range for a while with skx007, monster, turtles etc. I am financially in a better place now and i could not stop buying MM300s. i currently own 5 of them, going to be 6th soon if the deal comes through next week. So yeah i go through local market places and when i see an SBDX001 / 017 for sale, i will try to make an offer. i also have a couple of darth tunas and a quartz 300 tuna. I prefer the older ones with marinemasters writings and they are such good looking watch. Some would complain about the weight and the height of these watch, but i love it. when i wear it, i know i have a watch on. I have an sbdx001 that i picked up in not so perfect condition, scratches, dings and a couple of strip thread on the crown. had it fully serviced and I wear it as a daily, i dont have to care about it being banged and it still keeps like you've said +- 1 to 3 seconds a day. Love the MM300s
@@typehelvetica Feel the same and have had 5 MM300s and many Tunas that were all quartz - beautiful watches! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Seiko really has so many amazing watches, you can never keep up with them. And they last practically forever.
@@tw238 Thats the truth! Love the brand and how you can go entry level for a few hundred to LX level for a few thousand.
I love Seiko
@@evh4611 I'm with ya. Thanks so much for watching.
🙌🏻 great video
@@lucas98919598 Thanks for watching!
Brother this is so true I started whit 4r turtle now I’m in mm200 gmt and im looking for the exact mm300
@@samyilterziev3887 Yeah, thats where im at and feel that ice found the perfect MM300 and band and clasp set up. But, no doubt, Ill find a next project! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I just bought the MM300 (SLA047) and it arrived yesterday. It’s an outstanding watch, in my opinion. I bought the MM200R (SPB187) last year, and the SLA is just better in every regard, although the MM200R is no slouch, either. I really like Seiko divers, with a Turtle, Monster, Samurai and Darth 62MAS also in my collection, but the MM300 is the top of the mountain for me. Good luck finding yours!
Totally agree, i started with the SNk809 (7S26 movement) and now i jumped to mm200 gmt (not sure if it is mm but i felt it was the same than the mm300 of 2024 without the gmt, I know mm300 has nicer movement but it was 2 time expensive and i better going by steps)
Seiko 5 Map Meter Automatic Two Tone Is my main watch.👍🏻✨
@@rubenowitzv.3135 Fantastic! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I have a 10 watch collection and 4 are Seikos. They easily have the best designs in the 1000 dollar ball park for me
@@user-iz9co4qf6z Im with ya. Love the brand and really cover something for everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Agree despite it flaws Seiko is best Pound for Pound!💯👏🏼
@@felipec2157 Yes! Thanks for watching.
I would love to have a marine master. Great video, cheers.
@@sarosok18 Thanks for the positive comment. You can get some great deals on the used market 1500-2000. Still not cheap but worth the money! Thanks for watching.
I can agree with that.
@@georgecupac1202 Thanks for watching and commenting!
I think if you are collecting watches long enough you eventually realize that Seiko is the perfect addition for any collector. I used to not noticing them at all but recently the only watches I want are all either Seiko or G-shock.
Agree. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’m U.K working class, Seiko look out for people like me. A lot of Swiss brands are unobtainable and I can’t stand the snobbery. I recently heard that AP won’t even let you in their shop if you’re not a member. I don’t play these games, and I would feel uncomfortable being in a club that does.
Seiko were founded in 1881. I also think they are the best watch company too !
I bought a seiko 5 sports because it reminded me of my father with the skeleton bracelet. I then picked up a GS gmt and then king Seiko. I enjoy them but my Rolex submariner Starbucks and green mint date just are still unbeatable. I also have the Tudor Pro, Pelagos blue date, opaline gmt and BB41. I think if they work on a Tfit they would make out like a bandit.
@@JohnnyBeans-w9k Agree that Seiko needs to work on their bracelets! Nice watches! Thanks for watching. 0
Good review of some nice seikos. As a thought......micro brands used to be better value , and specs than seiko. I have found that isnt always the case anymore.
You forgot to show the mono block case on the marine master. Unique among divers. ❤
@@Koishishibaman Here is a full review of the MM300:
th-cam.com/video/VUlmGbGZogQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ASUiGQlBpKqeSF07
Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@erikkinginnyc thanks for the link. They are a special watch, but not for everyone. I have a 039 I fitted a strapco bor bracelet to. Better than a strap for me. Balances the hockey puc watch head😂
Great information
@@cindywolff7540 Thanks for watching and commenting.
Happy with my NH35 watches and my Amazon Seiko watches.
@@TruTube.1. Regardless of price there is a Seiko for everyone and the NH35 is a real, tested workhorse! Thanks for watching.
I just came upon your videos a little while ago and I love them. This might be off the topic here but it's for anyone, I just got today a Bulova lunar pilot watch the leather and NATO strap kit, was wondering if I should keep it or send it back for a Seiko watch if they are that good. Thanks
That's a great watch with a great history, have only heard it wears a little bit big but if you feel comfortable with it it's a great watch, if not should look at the seiko solar speed timers (if you want a chrono), they wear a lot better than the lunar pilot and also the finishing and details you get for the money are pretty good.
@@ramsfan709 As was said the Speedtimer is great BUT the Bulova you have is a great watch and if you like it then keep it! A great watch with great history!! Thanks for watching.
Do u recommend invicta watches
@@sreekesh23 Hope thats a joke. Thanks for watching.
I have the Seiko SJE101J1 (like the tier below grand) and it’s honestly the best dive dial I’ve ever seen. Seiko just dominates for quality at quite a few different price points 😊
Agree. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I am 59 and a 100% Rolex-Tudor fan and occasianlly get pulled by a Seiko release such as the new SPB 317 however there several things that make me think Seiko drops the ball all to often and now a days are asking way to much for whatone gets. One is the fact that they use plastic on the movement holder and date changer. The other is so may micro brands offer so much more for the same money with either a ETA\Sellita movement or even the NH35.
@@24hourgmtchannel64 At the lower end you are correct as they can be a mess. As you move up ($$$) things do change. Can't deny some of the value propositions of some micro brands. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@erikkinginnyc I have to admit I am liking the spb317. It's a re-release of the short two year run 6105-8000 right before the 1970 Captain Willard. I started getting really interested in the history of the 6105-8000 and 6105-8110 but then discovered while labeled as divers by Seiko, they didn't have screw down crowns. The modern re-releases do however but this is yet another reason why I find Seiko odd. I get how some gush over a spring drive but for that kind of money I'm going the Rolex route without a second thought.
I know you are a huge MM300 fan but what do you think about the new SLA079? Interesting to know your view on it esp when the monobloc case is gone.
Love it and now wearing a 055, so similar. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The willards are my favorite
@@HerschelLaCroix I love them too. Did a review probably 10 back about one and love the fit and everything about them. Thanks for watching.
You cannot beat the various designs on their Divers . I have a few , Monster , Willard , king Turtle 62 mas and the Rolls Royce of Seiko , the LX Springdrive in moss green and titanium . It's big and fits well on my 7.5 inch wrist . It's a redesignied MM300 which I bought mint but used at $3400 ( RRP at $6000 plus tax )
I could have bought a Black Bay but they are decent but dull.
Springdrive is the best movement in horolgy and this , limited to
500 made , has so much character and is accurate to a few seconds per month . With no beats it hardly needs servicing over my lifetime .
Problem is I have not found a better Diver , so I go for great design . Like the Horizon Nemo, Direnzo or the Titanium Citezin small seconds .
I believe in great design and novel character which is where Seiko Divers shine. I cannot think of another brand that has the range of divers
@@stevehenrytagami4709 You hit the nail directly on the head! BINGO! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
I know a lot of people complain about their unsigned crowns and I think it's justified. I miss the days of the $300 SARBS. I still love Seiko but just wish they would sign their crowns again in the $1000 and less category.
@@JakeLian I feel the same way and really dont like the Prospex X logo. Thanks so much for watching.
Good point. I can afford a Rolex, but not only are they overpriced, but they are made hard to get. If Rolex wants my money, they should make it easy for me to get one. I won't get sucked into the marketing gimmick of making things scarce so people will run after them more. Too much effort just for a watch, and too sheep-like behavior.
@@mitondo6123 Yeah, Rolex play all the games to manipulate price, availability.... Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@erikkinginnyc Oh, but since your video was about Seiko and not Rolex, I have to add that I do agree with your observations about Seiko. That company just resonates with watch enthusiasts. Many have started with Seiko, and the brand will get the respect it deserves anywhere. And while I have Swiss and German watches (except Rolexes), I found myself craving for a Seiko that would fit my small wrist. Then, I found the SPB 411 Navigator Timer reissue. Again, accessibility, at 38.5mm, and for a price I was willing to pay. It's a nice feeling to be able to walk into an authorized dealer, and walk out with the watch you want. My uncle, a scuba and sky diver, has had his Willard on his wrist since 1978. Never serviced. He once brought it to the service center to be checked. When they asked him if there was something wrong with it and he answered no, they said then there was no reason to open it up. He's now 70 and I just saw him a couple of weeks ago wearing it. Since I was a kid, I've never seen any other watch on his wrist.
Correct and same applies for Lamborghini. If they cant make them under 15k and put one on my doorstep……then I’m not buying one!!!
@@mitondo6123 100% as they are not even near the best watch as well! Thanks for watching.
Owned many seikos, personally think the swiss make the best watches
@@coffeeboyclips1973 Yeah, as an industry definitely dominated by the Swiss but Grand Seiko, Seiko LX....Thanks for watching.
They are the best company because their bracelets and clasps are so good they haven’t needed an upgrade…..ever….
@@WordMadeFlesh777 You and I may be the few that think that. The ratcheting MM300 clasp is my favorite ever and trying to get one pvd or dlc coated for my next project. Thanks for watching.
No doubt is the best With Citizen
@@christianherrmann9615 Huge fan of Citizen and there 9 series movement. Thanks for watching.
its also feature in most olympics.
@@eugeneteo9664 Yes, true. Thanks for watching.
Seiko is Toyota of watches
@@BenMarar In a way but also Lexus. Thanks for watching.
I only buy GS and Credor but Seiko has nice watches. Cant tolerate the movements though.
Love GS and Credor. Thanks for watching and commenting!
In the 21st Century, pretty much all multi-national corporations have given up on offering any consistent parity of price and quality. I've purchased top of the line products which were massively disappointing, and I've purchased entry-level or basic products that have lasted for decades.
It would be great if a TH-camr could get an American marketing executive from Seiko on their channel to answer some questions about some of the questionable decisions Seiko has made in the last several years. Perhaps, there is some rhyme or reason that the peasants are not privy to.
For example: It SEEMS like Seiko has 200 dive watches out at any one time. It's confusing as hell. And while I will agree, I have never had a Seiko watch stop working, A LOT of the Seiko watches that I have seen in the last 10 years or so, appear 'cheap'.........sloppy bezels, tinny stamped clasps, sub-par bracelets, miscellaneous QC issues. Seems impossible to market Seiko as a competitor to higher tier brands, when they have such mediocre/generic products at the lower end. 10+ years ago, a Toyota Corolla was built as solidly as a 4Runner. Somewhat apples and oranges, but THE POINT is that the build quality was similar (enough), whether you were spending $25,000 for a Corolla or $50,000 for a 4Runner.
Most people would not spend +$2,000 on Seiko. I don't have a problem with it. I would buy the $3,000 (black dial) SLA021 TODAY if it had, "Marinemaster" on it instead of that Prospex logo. There are too many micro brands out there nowadays that ARE building very solidly built watches, for Seiko to get complacent.
Another example is the Prospex "X" logo. That X logo is on $800 Seiko divers AND The Marinemaster. I do not work in marketing or advertising, so it SEEMS asinine to me. That would be like Mercedes Benz slapping the AMG badge on their entry-level class series. IT CHEAPENS THE BRAND. "If every Mercedes is an AMG, then AMG means NOTHING." Initially, I thought it was some type of copyright infringement issue with another watch company............but THEN, they put Marinemaster back on the dial of newer releases. Seiko is all over the place.
@@AldermanFredCDavis Agree 100% I dont think Seiko can even explain it, nor do they appear to care. Thanks for watching and commenting.
4:57, Suuure! Better than Rolex! Suture! Whatever you say!
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Yeah right😂
@@sasha5320 Im happy you agree! Thanks for watching.
After years and countless models tried and seen in person I have concluded seiko are just shit watches. I don’t get the obsession. Bad alignment, bad bezel movement, trash clasps, worse bracelets, ugly designs. I will never understand.
@@dmoneydmoney6050 To each their own, lots of watch options out there. Thanks for watching.
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@@scottslater-nb5ch U Too!
3200 for a Seiko that's not a grand Seiko? Na I’m good 😂😂😂😂
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Seiko 5 hardlex crystal……hard pass. Cheap is cheap. Great watch if it had the proper crystal.
@@scottsalom3891 Agree as profit from Hardlex cant be that great. I did have an original MM300 with Hardlex and never a problem - could be that I was careful. Thanks for watching
As much as I love seiko they are rubbish brand. Over priced, inaccurate movements, poor QC , and very thick watches for their divers to chronographs on you get into $1k plus mark
@@JohnnyJohnJon83 To each their own but ill take my Marinemaster any day against a Rlx Sub. Thanks for watching.
I disagree, but it's just my opinion.
@@MJY91 And I agree. Thanks for watching
Because is japanese
@@giuliocaprini-be2pj I think thats part of it! Thanks for watching.
Miyota hb is more accurate
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The best watch company doesn't make watches with misalignment of bezels
@@LoneJedi It does if your only spend g a few hundred. Wont happen on SLA...Thanks for watching!
My Willard is perfect....😊
I have way too many Seiko divers. Most JDM. Maybe one or two slightly off.
Also have other brands miss aligned. For me not a problem.
The best watch company is the Swiss one that when you go into a AD you can't actually buy one for 3 to 4 years and the price is way over inflated for a stainless steel watch, oh wait it's special soft SS, Oyster steel😂
I've seen authorized dealers where half of the diver inventory is misaligned. Seiko is trying hard to ruin their own brand.
This guy must be sleeping with a Shitko rep.
Nope! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@erikkinginnyc Shitko will always be shite,⁰
It’s so good that it’s 6r family of movements which are trash btw are now packaged in watches with asking price of 1k or more 😂
@@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy You have a point. So I think some are overpriced - yes! If you know Seiko you know what to buy and fortunately great deals on the secondary market and used! Thanks for watching.
I've owned multiple Seikos over the years, I'm familiar with their history as well as their current catalog. I still wear a Seiko watch as my daily. I love their design, and appreciate every era of their watchmaking. Except this one. They are turning into crap, both in terms of watches as well as movements. They don't care about quality control and they cannot read the market to save their life. They are easily the worst big name company in the industry right now. There are multiple reasons for that. Nothing lasts forever, including reputation.
@@kresimirpleic Agree with rep but cant say they dont have something for everyone. Additionally, the SLAs I've had have been as good as any watch! Thanks for watching and commenting.
At least at the lower price level Orient Blows Seiko away!!
Agree somewhat. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Seiko should first stop producing bad QC watches. Chinese manufactured micro brands and AliExpress brands are shaming them. I'm still happy with my Alpinist but that's the last I've purchased after so many misaligned divers I had. I respect their movements that are used by many micro brands. Maybe a better strategy for them is to leave the low end watch market and compete on mid-tier to luxury segment.
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If I loved overpriced old-style watches with epic levels of bezel and chapter ring misalignment, I'd agree with you.
But I don't.
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Seiko = Horrible QC. Poor accuracy. No on the fly micro adjust clasp. Way overpriced for what it is. Save your money, save more and buy yourself a real watch. Buy yourself an Omega.
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I don‘t agree. Seiko is too expensive. Citizen rulez.
@@frankhint5863 Love citizen but Seiko for me has more options. Thanks for watching.