@@romanmartha5359 Gemstones are all about visual appeal. Even the very BEST that Guatemalan jade has to offer will not compare favorably to the brilliant colors, watery translucency, mirror polish of Burma jadeite. Yes, it is more expensive, but one gets what one pays for. Conversely, I've never seen a single piece of Guatemalan jade, at any price, that comes close to imperial green Burma jadeite.
@@Indrid__Cold agreed gemstones are about their physical characteristics, but also personal meaning and attachments. Since I buy jewelry for personal use and not resale, its history and cultural significance wins over it being of "better quality". I'd find it strange if Burmese jadeite was carved in Maya style, even if it was imperial green
I did truly enjoy this however I must complain about the narration it was inaccurate you can hear people saying things that were not directly repeated by the narrator
Correction , cacao indeed was used as a type of currency in the Barter system of the Mayans but they also used Jade amongst other things as a currency . Jade was pretty common as a currency
It is very interesting that in Mayan the colour Green was called "Yash" is Farsi (Iranian language) Jade is called Yashm, and also the dark green which resembles Yashm is called Yashmi.
It hurts me to watch them "mine" the Jade - they don't know what they're doing. They need thinner bits and drill holes every 6" along the direction that they want to split. They can ream out the top 5 " of the smaller and deeper holes to put in the feathers and wedges. (better yet, use smaller feathers and wedges) What they are doing is brutallizing the stone and stressing it - causing cracks where they don't want cracks. p.s. those aren't "diamond tipped bits" They're carbide. You can't use diamond bits on a hammer drill. You have to use water with diamond only for cutting or abrasion. Diamond is brittle and can't take percussion.
@@marx4325 I've watched most of his videos and she does it in ever one of them its sooooo hard to block out the other person cause they have a different way of talking then the narrator I'm just glad it's not just me
Even with modern machines it still took so much effort... so it really makes me wonder how the Mayans did it back then, especially without metal tools.
they had time, lots of time and religious devotion, lots of belief...you can do an awful lot with those and they are very rare in the modern world, so rare that you can scarcely comprehend how they did it, because those concepts are so alien to you.
Anglos also brought you the keyboard your typing on,the vehicles, you ride in, or plane you fly in, and the electricity used for the internet . Vaccinations?
Just wait until the Chinese find something to interesting on your land. This jade isn't good quality as per the Chinese and thank God for that, else there would be swarms of Chinese in Guatemala
I've been in the jade trade for twelve years. With the exception of the "galactic black" which is a black jadeite flecked with pyrite, I have not seen any Guatemalan that would be worth the effort to transport it to China for cutting/carving. The stones are minimally translucent, and do not seem to take a polish as well as the Burma material (although that may be the inexperienced crafters working the stone).
@@lindanorris2455 If you are referring to vividness of color, translucency, variety of colors, and ability to take a high polish, Jadeite from Burma has the best Jade by a LIGHT YEAR!!!!
Love these videos. I am confused as to why they have the narrator translate English into English though... Like the people she was speaking over were very well spoken as well...
I didn’t’t know my jade bangle was a good type of three coloured jade. I shall make a silver sleeve of river fish, so the jade shines from between the fish. It can keep my wrists cool in summer heat. I love it
La mascara,, del rey " pakal" ah mi ver la mejor,,,, sus partes,, estan cortadas con alta presicion,,, ? y el jade su color verde,, brillante,, es unico,, no he visto jade como ese en ninguna otra reliquia maya,,,,,🇲🇽🧘🙏🧟👾🤖💪💚
I love this entire series but the English translations over the English is highly annoying. Who thought that would be a good idea? The original audio isn't even bad quality. Very strange.
My brother-in-law has an uncle in Wyoming who has a Pink Jade mine on his property . I've found raw green Jade in southern Alaska a thumb sized black composite studded with Jade a beautiful piece I gave my sister .
These are awesome documentaries thank you so much! But to be honest it's pretty annoying how the narrator is narrating over English-speaking people. And she's changing their wordage. why did you do this?
Damn I didn't know they had Jadeite!!I thought it was Nephrite forsure,man was I wrong!!That piece he broke and showed was Beautiful!!And Wow how hard that jade is!!!Even with that diamond bit drill it was taking Alot of Force to make a hole!!And that Boulder he took the jade sample from must or weighed Tons!!I wish I could of bought a match book size piece to make a nice pendant!!!I wish that mine was open for it's people to make money!!It would literally give jobs to Everyone!!!🙏
You say that Jade with 3 different colors in the same stone is very rare. I see it a lot watching Jade civic videos. That's not what the Chinese are looking for they don't want. 3 colors in the same stone they want 1 maybe 2 colors. If it's laid out right
I wonder why the voice over was necessary when the speakers were perfectly well spoken in English, experts, and sound appeared good...? I'm wary now of other videos of voiceovers by this production team bc of how many times the narrator changed words as tho editing expert speakers, and losing nuance. Replacing "cultures" for "civilizations" is perplexing and wrong. Civilizations are political etc while culture means the physical remains. Why replace artifacts for artworks esp, again, as an ARCHAEOLOGIST is talking? Whoever is responsible for this injudicious editing is not knowledgeable and degrades a valuable documentation of this region. I'm disappointed.
@john knoefler - Colonial mentality, much??? I see an incredible spirituality - for the Church to co-exist with Native beliefs. It must be very comforting to be in touch with one’s roots, so to speak. Think about it: if God, wanted all of us to be the same, He would have MADE us all the same.
HORSES ARE STARVING TO DEATH IN INDIA DUE TO STUPID COVID AND THE LACK OF TOURISM. SO THE OWNERS ARE LETTING THE HORSES STAREE TO DEATH. WISE MOVE HUH?
Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere?!!!...
Here in Aotearoa/new zealand us maori call jade, pounamu, a sacred healing stone, i have never seen a maori carver attack a piece of pounamu in this manner. We always say ancient karakia, prayers, to the gods and ancestors. Cutting stone is a very solemn, reverential action. On the west coast of our south island where most pounamu is found, there are sandstones embedded on the beach, they have furrows from hundreds of years of stone being rubbed to create weapons, hooks, chisels, and if you go to the arahura river on the west coast south isle, it is permitted by the local maori tribe, who are the guardians of the stone, that you can find a piece of jade, if u can carry your piece, you can keep it.
We can hear the women , why are you speaking English over English ? I figure you pirate the video ,bye speaking over the sound you make the video yours .
sad to see such shameless pillaging of such a pristine place. pneumatic breakers smashing up ancient rocks and in their breaks the workers catapult protected iguanas 🤦🏻♂️ The jewellery looks like crap too.
Yes that was fekin ugly from my perspective, nz maori, our jade is world class, we call it pounamu, sacred healing stone. Never have i seen a carver here attack stonein such a callous manner, savages, lol. Great comment tho friend.
OK JAKE SPEAKS ENGLISH... NO NEED TRANSLATOR TO REPEAT... WE CAN HEAR BETTER WHAT HE SAYS.. THANK U... ALL OTHERS IT HELPED WITH TRANSLATOR N NARRATING...
I love learning about the gems and so on but as a true Catholic, seeing these South American people constantly contaminate our faith with their demonic superstitions breaks my heart.
I love learning about the gems, but seeing these South American peoples demonic superstitions constantly contaminated with Catholic bullshit just breaks my heart. I fixed it for you. 😁💕👍🏾
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE INTENSE POVERTY IN GUATAMALA WOULD DRIVE THE RESIDENTS TO WANT BETTER FOR THEMSELVES. RELYING ON TOURISM AND FARMING ONLY, MUST BE DEEPLY DIFFICULT. THE LACK OF TEETH, THE INTENSE POVERTY, UNSPAYED/ UN NEUTERED GOS IS OVERWHELMING TO ME, BUT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO WANT ANYTHING BETTER?
Once you have seen the nearly transparent texture, as well as the vivid greens, yellows, reds, and purples of Burma jade, you can never be satisfied with the pale colors and weak translucency of Guatemalan jadeite. To put it another way, Burma jadeite is a precious gem, Guatemalan jadeite is a decorative rock.
@@richardwasserman Not really. I’m just a collector for many years. I took a long look at the Guatemalan material. It was usually barely translucent, and what little emerald green material there was, it was barely translucent. Burma material was usually richly colored in bright greens, violets, and reds. In short, if the Guatemalan material looked anything like Burma jadeite, the mountains containing it would have been mined out by now.
Thank you for posting these amazing documentaries❤
Guatamalan people are beautiful. So sad there's been so much violence against them by the colonists and their descendants.
is that why central america is the most violent region on earth today?
I never heard an English to English translation before. Haha
I know right? LOL! It's annoying tho. -.-
We are unique
How did it feel?
@@StanHowse Her voice and accent were better.
@@adrianalainez8499 That's true.
My favorite stone. I own several jadeite jewelry pieces from their Jade Maya store in Guatemala.
Once you've seen the brilliance of Burma jadeite, you can never be satisfied with the pale washed out colors of Guatemalan jade.
@@Indrid__Cold I'm familiar with Burmese jadeite, it's nice and all but it can't compare with the cultural significance of Guatemalan jadeite
@@romanmartha5359 Gemstones are all about visual appeal. Even the very BEST that Guatemalan jade has to offer will not compare favorably to the brilliant colors, watery translucency, mirror polish of Burma jadeite. Yes, it is more expensive, but one gets what one pays for. Conversely, I've never seen a single piece of Guatemalan jade, at any price, that comes close to imperial green Burma jadeite.
@@Indrid__Cold agreed gemstones are about their physical characteristics, but also personal meaning and attachments. Since I buy jewelry for personal use and not resale, its history and cultural significance wins over it being of "better quality". I'd find it strange if Burmese jadeite was carved in Maya style, even if it was imperial green
@Meshika PrinceAnd you look like Osama Bin Laden. That al quida beard work for the chicks?
I did truly enjoy this however I must complain about the narration it was inaccurate you can hear people saying things that were not directly repeated by the narrator
Definitely some political or racially motivated obstruction of accurate descriptions of socio-cultural information in this video.
Correction , cacao indeed was used as a type of currency in the Barter system of the Mayans but they also used Jade amongst other things as a currency . Jade was pretty common as a currency
I absolutely loved this documentary of yours...thank you...💗💗💗
It is very interesting that in Mayan the colour Green was called "Yash" is Farsi (Iranian language) Jade is called Yashm, and also the dark green which resembles Yashm is called Yashmi.
@Redd Bull Sabz is green, Yashmi is a dark green. Like turquoise which is a kind of blue and the name of a stone too.
Interesting In Turkish green is yeşil !
Nice
@Jasmine """
Plis, you can tell me,wath's líquida using fore the proof the jade
It hurts me to watch them "mine" the Jade - they don't know what they're doing. They need thinner bits and drill holes every 6" along the direction that they want to split. They can ream out the top 5 " of the smaller and deeper holes to put in the feathers and wedges. (better yet, use smaller feathers and wedges) What they are doing is brutallizing the stone and stressing it - causing cracks where they don't want cracks. p.s. those aren't "diamond tipped bits" They're carbide. You can't use diamond bits on a hammer drill. You have to use water with diamond only for cutting or abrasion. Diamond is brittle and can't take percussion.
For petes sake turn down that music. I want to hear about Jade.
Why is this lady talking over the guy every time
what do you mean?
ok i see what you mean now.........yes its really annoying
@@marx4325 I've watched most of his videos and she does it in ever one of them its sooooo hard to block out the other person cause they have a different way of talking then the narrator
I'm just glad it's not just me
maybe cause shes british and hes american and they cant understand MERICAN ENGLIASH
You are not respectful. She translated that we can better understand.
I hate that the colonizers are still profiting off of the Mayan resources though tbh
STAWP TRANSLATING ENGLISH WITH ENGLISH PLEASE
Hey Erin.... What is SL?
Even with modern machines it still took so much effort... so it really makes me wonder how the Mayans did it back then, especially without metal tools.
they had time, lots of time and religious devotion, lots of belief...you can do an awful lot with those and they are very rare in the modern world, so rare that you can scarcely comprehend how they did it, because those concepts are so alien to you.
largest and oldest copper mine was in the Americas, prob had all kinds of materials
@------ Stone on stone, a long process of pecking and grinding with abrasion.
@@kc3718 americans mad cause they have no history sit down 🤣
You have a pretty awesome channel! Thank you!
Why the voiceover voice over🤪
Why you born over and over?
The Sound of Silence being played inside the Church during mass (29:46). this is interesting
Anyone know they name of the liquid they are using for the sink test?
I'd like to know also. Good question. I guess it's a closely guarded secret?
Might be diiodomethane at 3.2
It's always anglos who exploit the natural riches of the indigenous peoples.
It was the Spaniards who colonised Guatemala genius... Your last name also seems to be Spanish... Projection maybe?
Racist are we?
Anglos also brought you the keyboard your typing on,the vehicles, you ride in, or plane you fly in, and the electricity used for the internet . Vaccinations?
Just wait until the Chinese find something to interesting on your land. This jade isn't good quality as per the Chinese and thank God for that, else there would be swarms of Chinese in Guatemala
@@marutanray is actually good jade.
Thankyou very much , very informative
at 29:35 'The sound of silence' is played on a xylophone in church. Awesome!!!
Awesome!!!
I've been in the jade trade for twelve years. With the exception of the "galactic black" which is a black jadeite flecked with pyrite, I have not seen any Guatemalan that would be worth the effort to transport it to China for cutting/carving. The stones are minimally translucent, and do not seem to take a polish as well as the Burma material (although that may be the inexperienced crafters working the stone).
THE CHINESE SAY THIER JADE IS BEST. THE CENTRAL AMERICANS STATE THEIR JADE IS BEST. WHICH IS REALLY TRUE?
@@lindanorris2455 If you are referring to vividness of color, translucency, variety of colors, and ability to take a high polish, Jadeite from Burma has the best Jade by a LIGHT YEAR!!!!
Love these videos. I am confused as to why they have the narrator translate English into English though... Like the people she was speaking over were very well spoken as well...
Agreed. I stopped watching because its like nails on a chalkboard.
Which chemical use for identification true jade ?
No one seems to be able to answer that question. I'd like to know also.
I didn’t’t know my jade bangle was a good type of three coloured jade. I shall make a silver sleeve of river fish, so the jade shines from between the fish. It can keep my wrists cool in summer heat. I love it
Why do they have an interpreter for the people speaking english?
I have a piece of Olmec blue jadeite and its gorgeous!
Were did you get it from?
now i know that tha "hello darkness my old friend" can be sang in the chruch
Haha , I noticed that as well
hahahaha. I thoght I was the only one who noticed. and by the way... the title of the song is Sound of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel
Imagine dating the narrator, you'd never be able to tell a story again...
I want to come work for you guys. Love Guatemala!
" a green and prescious smile " is a symbol of POWER 💚
Where can I buy jade??
I have rough Jadeite Jade Type A from Indonesia, do you interested ?
At the Jade store, duh
La mascara,, del rey " pakal" ah mi ver la mejor,,,, sus partes,, estan cortadas con alta presicion,,, ? y el jade su color verde,, brillante,, es unico,, no he visto jade como ese en ninguna otra reliquia maya,,,,,🇲🇽🧘🙏🧟👾🤖💪💚
Indispensable material thanks
" beautiful jewelry "
💚💚💚
I love this entire series but the English translations over the English is highly annoying. Who thought that would be a good idea? The original audio isn't even bad quality. Very strange.
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do you sale any raw jade ?
I have rough Jadeite Jade Type A from Indonesia, do you interested ?
My brother-in-law has an uncle in Wyoming who has a Pink Jade mine on his property . I've found raw green Jade in southern Alaska a thumb sized black composite studded with Jade a beautiful piece I gave my sister .
It's all over Canada and California too, it's not the same kind of jade that is valuable in China, that is called jadeite
Well, this did demonstrate the toughness of jadeite. The Chinese used to use it to temper steel.
Who is this gringo ?
And way can he take Guatemalan Jade ??
@@AEON.
Michael jackson time is over .. american dream is no longer interesting
I have rough Jadeite Jade from Indonesia, do you interested ?
These are awesome documentaries thank you so much! But to be honest it's pretty annoying how the narrator is narrating over English-speaking people. And she's changing their wordage. why did you do this?
Damn I didn't know they had Jadeite!!I thought it was Nephrite forsure,man was I wrong!!That piece he broke and showed was Beautiful!!And Wow how hard that jade is!!!Even with that diamond bit drill it was taking Alot of Force to make a hole!!And that Boulder he took the jade sample from must or weighed Tons!!I wish I could of bought a match book size piece to make a nice pendant!!!I wish that mine was open for it's people to make money!!It would literally give jobs to Everyone!!!🙏
I have rough Jadeite Jade Type A from Indonesia, do you interested ?
A superb, high quality documentary about a most inscrutable stone!!!
I wonder when this was filmed ?
Why do they have an English speaker for an English speaker?
You say that Jade with 3 different colors in the same stone is very rare. I see it a lot watching Jade civic videos. That's not what the Chinese are looking for they don't want. 3 colors in the same stone they want 1 maybe 2 colors. If it's laid out right
now jade is quite expensive pricey than gold pound to pound. Wonder 100's million dollar stone seating in their lawn.
what is up with translating into same language as spoken? it is hard to listen to and redundant.
I wonder why the voice over was necessary when the speakers were perfectly well spoken in English, experts, and sound appeared good...?
I'm wary now of other videos of voiceovers by this production team bc of how many times the narrator changed words as tho editing expert speakers, and losing nuance. Replacing "cultures" for "civilizations" is perplexing and wrong. Civilizations are political etc while culture means the physical remains. Why replace artifacts for artworks esp, again, as an ARCHAEOLOGIST is talking? Whoever is responsible for this injudicious editing is not knowledgeable and degrades a valuable documentation of this region. I'm disappointed.
Sir Patrick you should publish gems book/magzine
and gem sculpturing books please! :)
Why does the narrator translate already perfectly spoken English
..But the documentary is really interesting and beautifully made,,,
why is that woman talking over the original dialogue seems pointless to me
It doesn't matter if the Spanish get the jade just don't let an English boy with blonde hair get to it
🤣
@john knoefler - Colonial mentality, much??? I see an incredible spirituality - for the Church to co-exist with Native beliefs. It must be very comforting to be in touch with one’s roots, so to speak. Think about it: if God, wanted all of us to be the same, He would have MADE us all the same.
Saint Simeon was a famous saint from Aleppo Syria.
Fix the audio
poor horses. :( we use animals without often acknowledging their beautiful service
How do you know? Where you there? And that was a burro not a horse. Sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut to keep you from sounding stupid.
HORSES ARE STARVING TO DEATH IN INDIA DUE TO STUPID COVID AND THE LACK OF TOURISM. SO THE OWNERS ARE LETTING THE HORSES STAREE TO DEATH. WISE MOVE HUH?
The spains were enslaved in chichamec silver mines for 20-50 years before they went together to take down Aztecs
you guys got the historical nerative wrong!
Why the fuck did the narrator " translate " the dude who spoke perfect English? That was soooo annoying.
Why are you talking over them? ....
Marvelous
Wow amazing
Sorry for writing you, just out of curiosity your page come up on my suggested friend lists so I was just wondering if I knew you from somewhere?!!!...
english to english translation very annoying. it's like chatgpt found a camcorder
Here in Aotearoa/new zealand us maori call jade, pounamu, a sacred healing stone, i have never seen a maori carver attack a piece of pounamu in this manner. We always say ancient karakia, prayers, to the gods and ancestors. Cutting stone is a very solemn, reverential action. On the west coast of our south island where most pounamu is found, there are sandstones embedded on the beach, they have furrows from hundreds of years of stone being rubbed to create weapons, hooks, chisels, and if you go to the arahura river on the west coast south isle, it is permitted by the local maori tribe, who are the guardians of the stone, that you can find a piece of jade, if u can carry your piece, you can keep it.
Traduzcalo en Españ9l....
We can hear the women , why are you speaking English over English ? I figure you pirate the video ,bye speaking over the sound you make the video yours .
I am getting me a pair of ear plugs made from this jade.
sad to see such shameless pillaging of such a pristine place. pneumatic breakers smashing up ancient rocks and in their breaks the workers catapult protected iguanas 🤦🏻♂️ The jewellery looks like crap too.
Yes that was fekin ugly from my perspective, nz maori, our jade is world class, we call it pounamu, sacred healing stone. Never have i seen a carver here attack stonein such a callous manner, savages, lol. Great comment tho friend.
Why are you translating English with ENGLISH? LOL
What's the mummy?
Lol, they gonna protect the location from looters? What are they doing? 💰
relocating it for safety
@@haroldvonhelms8304 safety, haha! It's sitting in a river bed. Selling it gives it to the world. 🗿
@@johnemerick5860 yep
OK JAKE SPEAKS ENGLISH... NO NEED TRANSLATOR TO REPEAT... WE CAN HEAR BETTER WHAT HE SAYS.. THANK U...
ALL OTHERS IT HELPED WITH TRANSLATOR N NARRATING...
They obviously speak English why is she repeating them
I love learning about the gems and so on but as a true Catholic, seeing these South American people constantly contaminate our faith with their demonic superstitions breaks my heart.
I love learning about the gems, but seeing these South American peoples demonic superstitions constantly contaminated with Catholic bullshit just breaks my heart.
I fixed it for you. 😁💕👍🏾
The music doesnt match, & WHY is this woman translating English to English is RIDICULOUSLY IRRITATING !
Native jade🙂🙂🙂🙂
Man I wanna get my hands on grandpa's overstock pile out back. He's sitting on a gold mine
En español solo son 3 minutos,
Lo que estos homered esta a indoor es robar por eso no quieren que otros se enteren y los deverian de denunciar.
41:52 Tennessee TITANS !
i cant get over the conditions people are working in anywhere in the world where gems are involved! disgusting!
Why are you translating English to English. That's irritating at best.
for poor people she got enough gold hanging round her neck
LOL, "Asian jade" is anything but soft. Unless he means by color?
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE INTENSE POVERTY IN GUATAMALA WOULD DRIVE THE RESIDENTS TO WANT BETTER FOR THEMSELVES. RELYING ON TOURISM AND FARMING ONLY, MUST BE DEEPLY DIFFICULT. THE LACK OF TEETH, THE INTENSE POVERTY, UNSPAYED/ UN NEUTERED GOS IS OVERWHELMING TO ME, BUT THEY DO NOT SEEM TO WANT ANYTHING BETTER?
Asian jade isn't soft.
damns he she really need to translate the english
Lo prefiero en español el documental
I form india hou I show you my sempal
She is translating English into English?! Nonsense! And she is not doing the exact translation!
Your comment is rather useless. It's pretty obvious what's going on. Lol. Look at the bigger picture. 👍
Leave the iguanas alone!
What the stupid music totally ruined the good video
Once you have seen the nearly transparent texture, as well as the vivid greens, yellows, reds, and purples of Burma jade, you can never be satisfied with the pale colors and weak translucency of Guatemalan jadeite. To put it another way, Burma jadeite is a precious gem, Guatemalan jadeite is a decorative rock.
@@richardwasserman Not really. I’m just a collector for many years. I took a long look at the Guatemalan material. It was usually barely translucent, and what little emerald green material there was, it was barely translucent. Burma material was usually richly colored in bright greens, violets, and reds. In short, if the Guatemalan material looked anything like Burma jadeite, the mountains containing it would have been mined out by now.
The woman @ 50:17 is more stunning than Jade.
The Mayans are originally Chinese, how many more clues do you need, genetic and resemblance are facts already