Solo Lapras Challenge - What Level Can Lapras Beat Pokemon Yellow At?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Lapras is an incredible Pokemon. In Generation 1 it has a diverse movepool and great stats. I expect this "challenge" to be fairly easy and part way through I decided to try to beat the game at a low level.
Thanks for making me aware of some errors in the video. I'm going to step up my script review and research process so that I minimize these errors in the future!
1. Overlay has an error. It says Special Defense 95. This is the combined generation one Special stat. Lapras has 95 base Special in generation one.
2. Bubblebeam or Body Slam vs Raichu. Wasn't aware electric doesn't resist water, thanks for the feedback. If we examine the numbers I still think I made a sensible choice. Bubblebeam gets STAB: 65 x 1.5 = 97.5 power, Body Slam doesn't: 85 power. Raichu has 55 base Defense and 90 base Special in generation one so I figured the 12.5 power advantage that Bubblebeam would be negated by Raichu's stat distribution. Body Slam has the additional chance to paralyze.
3. Ice Beam or Bubblebeam vs Giovanni's Rock/Ground Pokemon in the first fight against him. I was completely wrong here. Bubblebeam is the correct choice 65 x 4 x 1.5 = 390 (Ice Beam: 90 x 2 x 1.5 = 270).
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**walks up to microphone**
**taps head of microphone**
**clears throat**
"Sand Attac-tics."
**walks away**
Maybe you could do a gen 3 Zangoose vs Seviper Pokemon challenge race
That's a good idea!
Maybe A Solrock Vs Lunatone Race?
Love this idea.
@@olgadavid9386 oh gawd. Here I was wondering which mon would struggle with tate and Liza more (seviper vs zangoose) but a half mirror match seems awful
i second this idea
"Please keep insulting me, attention is attention"
I didn't come here to get attacked.
I did.
Going to drop a couple corrections here which you incredible people have brought to my attention. However, continue to comment about how I was wrong in the video, algorithm blah blah blah.
1. Overlay has an error. It says Special Defense 95. This is the combined generation one Special stat. Lapras has 95 base Special in generation one.
2. Bubblebeam or Body Slam vs Raichu. Wasn't aware electric doesn't resist water, thanks for the feedback. If we examine the numbers I still think I made a sensible choice. Bubblebeam gets STAB: 65 x 1.5 = 97.5 power, Body Slam doesn't: 85 power. Raichu has 55 base Defense and 90 base Special in generation one so I figured the 12.5 power advantage that Bubblebeam would be negated by Raichu's stat distribution. Body Slam has the additional chance to paralyze.
3. Ice Beam or Bubblebeam vs Giovanni's Rock/Ground Pokemon in the first fight against him. I was completely wrong here. Bubblebeam is the correct choice 65 x 4 x 1.5 = 390 (Ice Beam: 90 x 2 x 1.5 = 270).
Thanks for all the comments and the support on Patreon. I'm humbled. See you all next week with Dunsparce!
I'd also like to bring up body slam vs Ice Beam on Sabrina's Alakazam.
With neutral stats, Body Slam is better, but once it receives an X-Defend or applied Reflect, Ice beam should do more. Adjusting the calculator for a 135 base special defense Alakazam (the gen 1 calculator doesn't work because it just assumes max level and EVs on everything while the gen 3 one allows for changing base stats):
Lvl 42 0 SpA Lapras Ice Beam vs. Lvl 50 0 HP / 0 SpD Alakazam: 23-28 (17.6 - 21.5%)
Lvl 42 0 Atk Lapras Body Slam vs. Lvl 50 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 33-39 (25.3 - 30%)
Lvl 42 0 Atk Lapras Body Slam vs. +1 Lvl 50 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam: 22-26 (16.9 - 20%)
Lvl 42 0 Atk Lapras Body Slam vs. Lvl 50 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam through Reflect: 17-20 (13 - 15.3%)
Lvl 42 0 Atk Lapras Body Slam vs. +1 Lvl 50 0 HP / 0 Def Alakazam through Reflect: 11-14 (8.4 - 10.7%)
At the X-Defend alone stage, it's close enough that you might conceivably prefer the more consistent 30% paralysis chance to the rarer but more potent 10% freeze chance, but when reflect is up, switching to ice beam seems like it could be an optimisation.
Dunsparce is the correct choice for any run. Headbutt + Glare/Body Slam will beat most things, Dig will handle the rest.
You saved me the trouble of pointing these corrections out myself, but I'll still mention as much anyway to help appease the almighty algorithm.
"I am so sorry"
Don't lie to us, you're not.
Canadian. Had to say sorry even if I didn't mean it.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Oh well, can't fault you for genetic predisposition
Good thing it's mothers day. Lapras is about to make this game her child.
Dome fossil ftw. Kabutops was my favorite gen 1 mon.
Lapras beats children confirmed
you sound like adult Tina from bob’s burgers. Keep up the good work! 😂
Oof this is too accurate 🤣
"Girlfriend reference: check."
What a dweeb ugh I love it 💛💛
I always thought Ice resisted grass till you mentioned that Lapras was weak to grass... you learn something new every day
Also an Omanite/Omastar vs Kabuto/Kabutops run would be so cool to see
lol nope, although I think Ice should defo resist Grass. With Grass already being the most resisted type in the game though, they probably didn't want to cripple it any more than they already did. Ice is in serious need of some resistances man, its pretty dumb that Ice only resists itself, and nothing else.
Ice is one of those types that they seemed to just add for balance and it makes no sense, like steel.
Ice only resists Ice and that sucks so bad lol
Scott already did the fossil run
@@That_Epseon99 yeah, about 2 months after my initial comment 😅😅😅
You're like a hybrid of Jrose and MDB; this is a compliment
Idea:carvanah and sharpedo Vs crawphish and crawduant Pokémon emerald
* Carnvanha * Corphish * crawdaunt
*Professor pops out mewtwo*
Prof: "Ah yes, these are pokemon"
Me: well then.
Glad I am finally fully caught up on all of your challenges. Keep it up man I really like how each challenge is a slight improvement over the last with the quality and commentary
Working really hard to make them better!
I like the, As fast as humanly possible tablature reference in the beginning. Also, Ice beam is better than Blizzard no matter what the Gen...bring it haters.
The more Pp (Hehe PP)
Is clearly a Big plus
But Blizzard is stupid OP in gen 1. It's also better in gen 4-8 with hail
@@CyberchaoX I'd argue Blizzard in the World versions is still better. You get a 25BP boost for the cost of 10% accuracy, which is a small price to pay.
Yes, over longer periods of play, Blizzard will let you down with that 10% chance to miss and having less PP. But in individual battles, assuming max PP for both moves, it's reliable enough for how crazy strong it is, especially with stab.
@@FamilyTeamGaming Plus extra PP doesn't matter much if you have to use the higher PP move twice as often
Why couldn't you bubblebeam Surge's Raichu? Electric doesn't resist water, but am I missing something?
I mean, body slam paralysis got you the win, but since Raichu used growl, I'm curious what bubblebeam would have done with Lapras at full special.
New plan, Omanyte vs Kabuto speed run
That should be interesting. They
should plow through the game but I could see Erika, grass trainers and Lorelie being tough.
For the Record, Dome is the superior fossil, shun the helix believers, another nice video Scott! Thank you
Shun the Dome believers and False Prophet. Praise Lord Helix and Bird Jesus
Typing/stats in gen 1 actually make Omastar better tho :c which is sad Kabutops looks so much cooler lol.
Praise lord helix
Scott's Thoughts over here handing out good takes like "game design", "thinking", and "personality" 👀
Another great episode! I've always loved Lapras :)
0:15 "Don't throw the game, throw Pokéballs instead"
Premieres in 24 hours?
Challenge accepted
New sub! Really loving this Lapras run! Thanks dude! Love hearing about the good old days... many good middle school memories with these games 🎮
35:23 "I'm a cool guy. I've got a girl friend!"
Exactly!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon
The chrome dome krillin like a villain fossil
Rip speed stat ironically and badge boost reliability
Fun facts
Gastly and poliwag can technically do minimum battles and bulbasaur at 59 can do ex champion butt ironically because all 3 have easier setup than lapras n Gastly has higher special and speed, poliwag has amnesia and bulbasaur sleep powder and growth
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon i also think your lapras had a terrible special ivs and hidden adamant nature
Because it has higher attack than special attack and I know that is not supposed to occur unless both are true
@@nateschendel4585 does hidden natures ocurr in gen I tho?
This is definitely a hidden gem of a channel.
I’m so happy you decided to use Lapras. It really is one of my absolute favorite Pokémon ever. Love all of the videos, Scott. Keep up the awesome content. Hey, I was just thinking about this: Since you always just use Charmander for HMs, how about doing a solo run with Kanto’s iconic little fire lizard? Now that’d be a sight to see.
Charmander line in the nearish future!
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Yayy! The Charmander line is my favorite group of Pokémon! (Not to sound like every kid who played Gen 1 ever...)
12:10: "Venonat and Venomoth are both bug-poison types".
13:20: "...Venomoth. That psychic-flying behemoth".
Uuuh...
Oh sorry, it's Dark/Fairy. I keep getting this one mixed up.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon at least you've never [yet] said augumon evolves into charizard.....
@@epicfail9271 Don't tempt me Frodo.
It's clearly Bug/Flying; it evolves from Metapod. ^-^
I love how the champion still kicking ass till the very end and yet have to finish the game with luck. Nice video ❤️
I totally agree with your stance on modern poke games. I love how they look and they're fun but I never went anywhere in moon because their was just so many cutscenes. I care about plot and flavor but not if they actively get in the way of the games pacing!
Finally someone takes the CORRECT fossil for once
Dome to send your opponents home!
Wrongeth again, thou weaketh being
One trick that I just learned so that you avoid wasting time at the trashcans: after you find the first one, save and then go for the one you think is the second one. If it isn't, restart and try with another. It really helped me save time on this part of the game.
at 6:40 u can see it says to not use save strats for yellow version?
Petition for Scott to give his rival Cyndaquil in all future gen 2 runs just so we can see him suffer with smokescreen
Oh no. Please no.
Lapras is such a good Pokemon, there is basically no situation where it doesn't give you options, even as an HM mon. I wish it wasn't so rare!
Honestly kind of surprised it had to breach the Lvl60 range to get it done. Goes to show how important good speed is in these challenges.
Probably could do it at a lower level against Vaporeon or Flareon. Jolteon just too stronk.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Against Flareon, definitely, since that would have removed Ninetales from the team in the final battle, but Vaporeon would still have it. And Vaporeon may have been difficult to get the final blow, since it's so bulky, particularly if Leech Seeded. I'd say Vaporean and Jolteon would be roughly the same in terms of difficulty here.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Would be fun to redo this with the rival having Flareon.
Obligatory comment for the TH-cam algorithm to help what is quickly becoming one of my favorite TH-cam channels
I'm subbed to a bunch of pokemon challenge channels and I find yours to be very high quality amongst them. You'll be at 10k subs in no time!
Thanks for the sub! Glad you're enjoying the content.
Fantastic run well done 👍 you have became one of my favorites TH-camrs Keep it up
Ah finally somebody gets it Dome fossile for life
Who doesn’t like getting dome?
Intelligent people
Got amped for the premier then saw i had a 24 hour wait 😄
This mad lad took the dome fossil. My respect to you
Someone is FINALLY doing a dunsparce run!!!!
"Yes Mom! I'm taking a poop!" Happy Mother's Day from the world of Pokemon!!
Indeed haha
10:30 The ramblings of a PokéBoomer
I love your videos man keep it up
Gen I Lapras in particular is like an actual tank. Not to slow, hard to take down, hits hard.
10:40 Don't forget that the legendaries are no longer hidden in obscure dungeons, some of which you aren't even required to visit during the main game! No no, now they're front and center, integral to the plot of the games. You WILL catch these pokemon, you WILL encounter them and you WILL be amazed at how rare it is to encounter such pokemon, the game screams at you while making it impossible to ever miss them. No longer do they roam around, making you have to actually chase them down if you want to catch them.
The further you go in generations, the more and more and more constricting and corridor-like the games become. In every respect they become more and more condescending to the player, refusing to allow any amount of freedom and exploration. Pokemon has become so afraid that you might have to put in some effort to enjoy the game that it spoon feeds you everything now.
And that might even be tolerable _if what it was spoon feeding us was good._ I love traditional, linear JRPGs. I don't think linearity is automatically a bad thing. But holy crap is Pokemon's writing bad! So not only do you have the game coming to a screeching halt every time you get to a new location so that it can vomit up its plot to you, but it's a really bad plot, with shallow, under developed characters.
I could talk for hours about the declining quality of the Pokemon franchise. Please attend my upcoming Ted Talk :V
I think Lapras will do well. It's funny because I was thinking about suggesting a Dewgong vs Lapras challenge but then I saw this video of Lapras up.
Hand holding is a lot more common pretty much all Rpgs These days. The games were designed around you getting lost and pointing you in the correct direction actually became more commonplace in the SNES - Playstation Eras. They usually left the more confusing, cryptic stuff for side quests.
That final turn is so scary but so amazing! Just wow....
Another great video. Nice one!
Along with you know who (a certain user whose name begins with a J and ends with an 11), I'd say your Pokemon challenges are the most fun to watch in the whole internet.
I'm just wondering why the recent need to include so many visual memes. I honestly don't think you need them, as your content is good and your narration original enough without those comedy devices.
Just a subscriber's opinion, anyway! :) Keep up the good work!
I appreciate the hand holding personally. I nearly gave up on my first playthrough of leafgreen because I couldn't work out how to get past the snorlax and/or into saffron city (I don't remember which one it was) and looking it up somehow didn't get me the answer. I spent hours trying to find it out and would've loved someone to just tell me how to do it
why not have a setting to turn on/off tutorials/tips instead? fixes your problem as well as everyone else's. I wish gamefreak listened to constructive criticism.
you were most likely stuck at the safron city guards, they changed how you get past them between red and fire red, so when you look it up, you get wrong information from the old games.
could you imagine how much harder these games would be if they actually had good AI?
you know i thought about making a romhack where i give every trainer the same pokemon of the same level they're supposed to have, but with optimized move sets and the most suitable AI routine for their pokemon, but then i looked into how rom hacking works and instantly gave up on it because it's WAY too complicated for my monke brain.
If memory serves, Lapras was one of only like three Pokemon that I beat the game below Level 55 with. This was really fun to watch, and makes me realize just how lucky I actually got in order to actually beat the game at that level. lol
I knew it level 60-70 to beat the game in the prediction, though i thought agatha and lorelei would be harder but i forgot the most important thing... Gen 1 AI
Episode name: "Reminiscing with Scott feat Locky the Lapras"
Jokes aside, man what a run! My inner kid loved this as he really loved Lapras growing up :D
Also next VS run: Ekans Vs. Koffing!
Finally dome fossil gets some recognition.
Of course our Scout knows the truth and dont praise the false Prophet. (Seriously tho I never liked twitch plays pokemon or any of the memes it spawned so someone who just Pulls a troll with it is always great in my opinion)
This will be great but Ive always wanted too see you or J rose do snorelax! I think it could be top teir for sure
Snorlax is planned. Coming soon.
For the algorithm!!! Great video! Shame I didn't get the final level range right, but still. This was still good to watch. Keep it up!
Something to note for your dunsparce run; obviously the rollout defense curl strat, but it's move pool is surprisingly very diverse. I love teaching that thing flamethrower. If you need a good name for it. I just name mine Danzio cuz it sounds cool.
I love this channel and content I’d love to know what program you use so I can challenge myself
My channel has a recent video about how to replace the starter!
The worst part about this game for me wuz getting into saffron city, i wuz stuck for weeks not knowing wut to do cuz getting a drink from the department store never crossed my mind & it still doesnt make sense to me
I'm a half hour late!!! 23 hours......... 😂
If you believe in the dome fossil so much maybe you should show it’s strength. Do a Gen 2 play through with Kabuto and Kabutops, but you can’t evolve kabuto until after you defeat the league
Or he could throw the fossil at people before the battle starts and I knock them out. Then steal their money and pokemon.
oh hell yes im a charizard in your patrons. i am so okay with that B) okay now time to actually watch the vid
Thank you for including my comment in your video! I was so excited I showed my wife 😂. Great video as always!
No, you were right that Rock slide would have done more damage than dig to Venonat/Venomoth (or at least equal). Bug types resist ground moves. It's one of those annoying resists that I often forget about, so even if they're poison type and weak to ground, the bug type cancels the weakness out.
As a kid, a funny thing happened to me on a playthrough. I took a break from playing during summer, picking up where I left off after two and a half months... There's no way to know how far along I got, so I spent 2-3 days going all over to talk to every NPC, then translating the English of every line of dialogue
OMG that sounds so tedious.
Omg I was stuck as hell in Celadon game corner for weeks, until a good friend helped me out
Even though you probably no this ice beam was neutral because ground is weak to it and rock resist it but due to bad coding in gen 1 it will say super effective if one type is weak
It's tough to pick which fossil is better in gen 1 because omastar and kabutops are awesome. But kabuto is better than omanyte so I don't blame ya
LOL his rival’s name is Butt. I named my rival Butt when I played this game as a kid. I also named him Butt in FireRed for tradition.
Obligatory comment to help with the algorithm. Can I just say, I love that you fo these in Yellow instead of Red or Blue? Yellow is the one I'm most nostalgic for, having spent years playing it growing up
Personally, I feel that Jynx should have been included in the Magmar vs Electabuzz race. They always felt like a trio to me. They're grouped together, in gen 2, they all get babies, they're all Humanshaped. Since that isn't possible now, maybe you could race her against Mr. Mine?
I know JRose does it a lot, but in the Champion battle you could replace Psychic with Mimic and steal Earthquake from Sandslash. You'd probably have to be aroud the same level, but it would definitely make the Jolteon easier, and possibly the Alakazam.
You should have taken the Helix fossil it's the best for the TH-cam algorithm. And you should have thaught Charmander dig.
I thot you missed an opportunity here, I'll grab a shovel and we can get to the bottom of this
Can you do a Yellow run with Missingno.? That would be extremely interesting to see.
Sidenote I believe there are different versions of Missingno to choose from.
In germany we say: was ein Ehrenmann
Das tun wir!
Wer erkennt das Kabuto cooler ist als Amonitas der ist immer ein Ehrenmann ;) (Ehrlich vielleicht bin ich der einzige aber das Lord Helix Ding geht mir derbst auf den Keks)
Kabuto sieht ja auch voll cool aus im vergleich
If the earlier generations had re-usable TMs like later gens, the strategies would be very different.
Agreed.
I've never played a generation where TMs don't break. Was it gen 5?
@@johnapple6646 Yes, Gen 5 made them reusable.
I think after Sabrina used X Defend and Reflect, you should have gone for Ice Beam, I'm pretty sure that it would have dealt more damage because Lapras Special is good enough and with STAB you would have hit hard. Maybe even a 3HKO
Definitely want to see more of these. Have you considered streaming some of the runs (pre elite 4 say) on twitch? The elite 4 is the real kicker but the gyms would be great for streaming and chatting with viewers
I have complicated thoughts about streaming. I have a very low social battery and being "on" while playing through these runs may drain too much of my energy. Additionally I write the script as I go and typically it's about a 1:4 ration of playing to writing. So it wouldn't be the most engaging of streams. I'm thinking of doing some longer form, live-style content in the form of Nuzlockes. I'm going to try that idea out starting in June.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Streaming is draining, I agree. Good that you're keeping your personal balance so well :) I'll keep an ear out on your videos for an announcement on if you start Streaming too.
I enjoyed the run, but I feel inclined to point out (after noticing late in the video against Bruno), you list the stats with Special Defense in Blue and Special Attack presumably cropped out. You can preview the stats with a single unified Special on Bulbapedia as well, with a link at the bottom of the stat listing for 1st gen pokemon.
Other than that, nothing to add, great video, looking forward to the next one :D
Forgot to fully edit the graphic. Should be Special 95.
That very last battle with Jolteon was nerve wracking lmao
Well, of course you beat Sabrina at level 42. It's the Meaning of Life, after all.
"yes mom, I'm OK, I'm just taking a poop"
Content
Quality Mother's day content. I hope she's proud of me.
Dang that shell is unbreakable! I agree about the good ol' days being great. I had no guide and nobody in school had beaten the game yet. Seafoam Islands was intimidating and I was scared of getting lost in there. I saw some strange bird while jumping down the holes and I decided to try my best to navigate the area. I made it to Articuno and caught it on my first attempt. I felt like such a bad ass doing that.
The next video should start with
“I have a girlfriend. Girlfriend reference, check”
I love the Kalos region because while it is linear, there are many areas within routes such as Terminus Cave and the lost hotel that encourage more exploration for someone who wants to get the most out of the game
yea there are many routes in X/Y that have branching paths, but not to the extent where you would get stuck, it just changes the trainers you fight and items you find, so going back and exploring the other path is usually worth it.
Just here for your algorithm have a great weekend brotha
You have a great weekend too brotha!
Yellow mid-game level jump is crazy but you can at least catch Zapdos and Articuno by Sabrina.
7:04
I don't think he's heard of the LochNess Monster....^-^
I'm really digging all the meme graphics, they're great!
Me too! I think it's my favorite part of making these videos!
Idea: a fossil race, since kabutops and omastar are very different pokemon, its a bit more of a grabbag compared to the starmie/cloyster race
i looked into it and i think a Kabutops with Swords Dance, Submission, Ice Beam, and Body Slam/Hyperbeam could go far in the late game, even if getting all those tms could be a hassle
mimic might get you key access to earthquake or rock slide, but i dunno if it's worth a slot over submission, esp if you wanna punch through cloyster
Omastar gets Surf/Blizz but any water or ice type would have to be dealt with either via submission, body slam, or mimic, all unboosted,
I could see Omastar losing in the late game simply b/c Loreli is a brick wall even though statistically it's the obvious choice given Gen1's favoring of mons with strong Special.
It's smart to choose Dome Fossil because Kabutops slash is super broken in gen 1.
Team Kabuto rules!
Also, does electric resist water in gen 1? I didn't think so, but Surge you used just body slam...
No it doesn't.
Did my own run of this myself a few months ago. Easily one of the best pokemon for a solo run in yellow from what I recall. I played with insane speed up compared to your usual 4x so the time wasn't accurate but I predict it to be the lowest yet of your bunch.
I identify so much with playing gameboy on the bathroom, I sometimes could be 2 hours playing there, good times... Lmao
In terms of game design, I think a good balance can be met between the old style and handholding that the modern day Pokemon games do. I don't like the game assuming I'm an idiot who needs a healer every 10 steps and constant directions but I do like how the game will tell you type advantages when you select a move now. There's just so many Pokemon now and more types that for casual players, I think that information in game lets casual players (like me) keep up better. But yes I think newer games should open up the world more to do things out of order, let you explore, and bring back HM moves so you have to overcome overworld obstacles and dungeon puzzles again!
Even just like a challenge mode would be cool. Higher level leaders with slightly more diverse teams. Harder versions of the puzzles etc. You're right that the newer generations have brought a lot of quality of life improvements. Without the text telling you what is super effective in gen 7 I probably would have never learned anything about type-effectiveness.
huh.... I had not realized how smart the rival's team is in yellow version. Leech seed followed by high speed (and high crit rate) firespin?
Take a shot for every time something survives on a sliver of health
Delaying my subscribing due to the frozen pun. Looks like I'll subscribe another day
Next week Dunsparce will win you over ;)
The Dome Fossil is clearly the right answer.
All those who follow Dome are doomed to eternity in the Distortion World
Hey at least there are the more interesting people anyways so i'm fine with it x3 (Good joke ;))
Easily one of my favorite Pokémon challenge channels
Great video! I wasn't expecting Ninetails to give you such a hard time in the champion fight.
@7:47 Charmander can also learn dig! One more pseudo-HM for HM’s moveset!
(I know you’ve already learned this sometime after this video. Just doing my part for the TH-cam algorithm.)