But then you would be unemployed no? World champion in any other field is requirement m retirement for life but for chess. You still need to work, participate earn and sustain your life
But then you would be unemployed no? World champion in any other field is requirement m retirement for life but for chess. You still need to work, participate earn and sustain your life
It is part of the Grand Chess Tour - which is part of a series of tournaments to which they are registered. Different picture if this were an isolated tournament.
I think FIDE released the schedule after this tournament, so when Ding and Nepo signed the contract for this tournament they didn’t know that it was gonna be so close.
@@ziedyacoub8488 Not friendly this is a tournament "" superbet Grand tour "" Grand tour tournaments are a big deal for every GM Ding and nepo are losing rating points Ding is 4th ( world champion and 4th )) Soon gonna be 5/6th
@@ziedyacoub8488 The World Champion went from World No.2 to No.4 and is tied for the last place with two people one being the World Championship challenger and the other being the lowest rated player in the tournament when 100k dollars are on the line. Dosen't seem like some friendly games to me lol
"A bad day at chess is better than any good day at work!" What if your work is playing chess for a living 🤪🤪😅😅 Godel is laughing and nodding in background 😁😁He's proud!
@@baron7199u just don t understand elo. There s a huge difference in 100 elo diff between a 1900 and a 2000 and between a 2750 and a 2850. The 2850 being the first means that if you DRAW vs the 2nd best player you LOSE elo. Gaining elo and maintaning a healthy elo lead as 1st is much much harder considering how hard the points are earned.
For people thinking Re2 at the end of engine line, it doesnt work because of bh6+ and next move the light squared bishop anywhere except 6th rank or h file.
Even world champions lose games ... except for Magnus. In the WCC, Ding did lose games, but he won one more game than Ian did (in the tiebreaks) and hence won the WCC.
Yeah he lost but he is actually the 2nd best player in the world! If you ask every player which tournament is more important, you will know what everybody will answer you. Good night
@@aco64umjenovic 2nd best player ?? I think Caruana is the best player after Magnus Even in ELO rating points ding is 4th and soon gonna be 5th or even worse
i like that the engine line was after the main game. it adds nothing to the real analysis of the game so it would be an unnecessary interruption during the main part of the video, but it is still entertaining to watch afterward. please share these excessively ridiculous engine lines after the game like this in future videos!
It’s not that it was not a pause the video moment, but once you say something like disgusting engine line which is forced. That knight check was the move that came to mind when I paused the video and thought about the position. If it forced it most likely starts with a check.
"a bad day of chess is better than any good day at work" well...this quote only works for spectators and only some players a bad day of chess for example like with Nepo's last game at the WCC I'm sure is comparable to the worst days of anyone
Imagine watching this “it’s now we have a new game” hey that’s not true! I had this exact opening the other day! “Well that’s not really true, there’s two very low level games in the database that followed this position” …
#suggestion Lets try some engine games again! Lets check a few highlights from an engine tournaments, with some info about new engines etc. Would mix things up a bit
Mr Ding needs rest especially when the sports causes so much mental stress . Ding ll b back . This ain't the prime Ding . Waiting for fresh players with Magnus in the fray . Well we ll be in for a thrill-ride . So many magicians in the chess world . Love chess
That’s why I love Carlson. No matter World chess championship defending title, he just don’t care and still wining every single other tournament. He’s a beast no need to rest
I know a lot of people are saying that Ding is tired from the WCC, and that's definitelly true, but this is not the kind of performance you expect from a world champion.
I can think of three players who would have on their best days found night to F5 check they are spassky Fischer in Kasparov whether or not they would have gone all the way to Bishop to H6? pinning The Rook is a question for the computers
If there’s one thing Magnus had over everyone is STAMINA. Dude could play gruesome 4-5hr games for 3 weeks str8 woth some games going 7-8hrs, and still have enough stamina to play another classical tourney IMMEDIATELY back to back. Ding is World Champion but he doesnt have stamina. Neither does Ian. They can play 1-2 long games but after that they’d need their rest. So having said that, who the hell does everyone thinks they are saying “Ding sucks, Ding weak, Ding not WCC worthy” as if they didnt realize both him and Ian came out of their 3.5 weeks of gruesome chess, having 1 week of rest between the WCC and this tourney. With the amount of stamina and energy drained from the WCC, they shouldve skipped this tourney. To put it into perspective, super gm’s burn 6000 calories when they’re playing their insanely long matches. Think aboout that u bums.
I think there are way too many unforced black moves assumed to consider the computer line a forced mate. Human would not necessarily play all those moves.
lol a 900 saying that anish wouldnt calculate those lines , those lines are inhuman and rightly so even magnus wouldn't have played rook to f1 on move 16
As the world champion, Ding has a huge target on his back and players are bringing the fight to him. Next candidates cycle, we get to find out if he’s a paper champion
Could someone please tell Ding Liren that losing to Anish "King of Draws" Giri is conduct unbecoming a world champion. Just kidding; we all know that, when in good form, Giri carries quite a punch, as one Magnus would attest.
2nd comment: 2016 WCC - This is relevant to the 2023 WCC. Please agad cover the other decisive game of the Sergey Karjakin vs Magnus Carlsen 2016 WCC (Game 10, where that TALENTLESS patzer won). #suggestion What happened is that Magnus lost to Sergey AS WHITE in Game 8 but then compensated for a white loss with A WHITE WIN in Game 10. This is what happened to Ding Liren & Nepo for Games 2 & 4 of the 2023 WCC. Fun fact for Game 8 - 'After the game Carlsen was visibly uncomfortable and left the press conference before it began, potentially incurring a fine of 5% of his prize money to the organizers Agon, and a further 5% to FIDE.[59] FIDE released a statement the following day indicating that the penalty would be imposed.[61] The fine was reduced on appeal to 5% of the prize money (2.5% to Agon and 2.5% to FIDE).[62]' For Game 10: Wesley So has some interesting thoughts that DEFY STOCKFISH, as Wesley So did in 2021 St Louis Chess 9LX with the move that won the chessc*m 2021 move of the year award. (Wesley So thinks white 'still had an edge' even though the computer says black is slightly winning.) Some maths: Why doesn't a drawn match go to the player w/ more black wins (if any) s.t. Sergey Karjakin not Magnus Carlsen is 2016 WCC? Surely a black win is worth more than a white win. But you might argue 2 draws with black amounts to a win with black. Does it? No question about it in chess960, where there's no theory. In chess? Gestalt psychology says the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. --- Other suggestions: Women's chess A - Was Kg6 in Dina's 1st GM slaying game in Reykjavik sexism? Like looking down on Dina? B - Anna Cramling's dad beats Mikhail Tal. #suggestion C - Philippine women's chess #suggestion - WGM Janelle Frayna, the female Wesley So, upset Georgian GM (really GM not just WGM) Bela Khotenashvili at the 2022 world blitz. There's a 13-move UNDERPROMOTION puzzle here. [Variant "From Position"] [FEN "6k1/6b1/1p1P3p/6pP/3pPpP1/p2NqP2/6K1/5Q2"] 1. Qd1 a2 2. Qb3+ Kf8 3. d7 Qe2+ 4. Nf2 Ke7 5. Qd5 Kd8 6. Qe6 Bf6 7. Qe8+ Kc7 8. Qc8+ Kd6 9. e5+ Qxe5 10. d8=R+ Bxd8 11. Qxd8+ Kc6 12. Qa8+ Kb5 13. Qxa2 For some reason none of the Philippine channels except Kelvinllovejr even cover this game. LOL. But Janelle did cover the game where e drew against Nemo, so maybe Janelle will cover this game later on. P.S. Please help get Wesley So on Lex Fridman's podcast. See xcdhgq
Is it just me or after magnus retire from classical, classical game become much more complicated, chaotic, and in the style of old master ?. This is mote exciting than positional engine line that always ends in draw
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I love how "angry" Agad gets when talking about the disgusting engine lines.
So assshole????
But sadly the engine lines are the only things he got 😢
You should see the guys at the bar and the library.
It makes me sleep at night with a smile on my face
Ding is like, "Ok, now I get why Magnus didn't want to do it anymore."
Hahaha 😂
how is it funny? did you just compare ding to magnus?
@@Kbax3614 you're so fun at parties
But then you would be unemployed no? World champion in any other field is requirement m retirement for life but for chess. You still need to work, participate earn and sustain your life
O.D.T.R.T.A= One Ding to rule them all... Except for one.
and except for Magnus
@ and except for alireza apparently
...and Fabiano.
@@kennethwoods6525 ...and Nepo (at least in this tournament).
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc : That has to hurt. Ding needs a break but he's too polite to say no to his sponsors and handlers.
Did Magnus or the challengers perform 'tired' after playing past WCC games? Worth digging into the history of the competitions
24 persons now (including me) finding this is an excellent question - and yet no answer. This is work.
In short, no
Both Nepo and Ding should have called it a season and went home after the WCC.
apparently this tournament was in their schedule before the dates of the WCC came.
But then you would be unemployed no? World champion in any other field is requirement m retirement for life but for chess. You still need to work, participate earn and sustain your life
It is part of the Grand Chess Tour - which is part of a series of tournaments to which they are registered. Different picture if this were an isolated tournament.
its a major tournament with good money.
Ding should have had some time off after the grueling World championship. Everyone and their dog is having a go at him now!!
I think FIDE released the schedule after this tournament, so when Ding and Nepo signed the contract for this tournament they didn’t know that it was gonna be so close.
Nonsense - if anything winning the world championship should be an energy boost.
@@oboyoh3960 it's exhausting to play chess 4-5 hours daily with high stakes, and preping for the rest of the hours awake
@@oboyoh3960 who are you ?
You're not calling giri who defeated magnus this year Everyone and their dog
I think Ding took the phrase "DingChilling" way too seriously!!!😂
Relax dude ... these are some friendly games .. that's all
@@ziedyacoub8488
Not friendly this is a tournament "" superbet Grand tour ""
Grand tour tournaments are a big deal for every GM
Ding and nepo are losing rating points
Ding is 4th ( world champion and 4th ))
Soon gonna be 5/6th
@@ziedyacoub8488 The World Champion went from World No.2 to No.4 and is tied for the last place with two people one being the World Championship challenger and the other being the lowest rated player in the tournament when 100k dollars are on the line. Dosen't seem like some friendly games to me lol
what a game by Anish!
In other words Amish won
Brutal game
The more lines the better, just more time we get to spend with you
aww 😀
"A bad day at chess is better than any good day at work!"
What if your work is playing chess for a living 🤪🤪😅😅
Godel is laughing and nodding in background 😁😁He's proud!
what I like the most about Alireza is that his wins always look so simple. He's a master of "simple chess"
By far the best chess channel, excellent commentary 👌👍
This only shows how strong of a world champion Magnus was. Both Nepo and Ding are struggling here but Magnus won one match after the next.
No. This tournamet is not more than a week for both.of them after one month match.
@@baron7199 yeah, they should be judged by future performances
@@baron7199 Show me a tournament where Magnus would do so poorly after defending his title.
@@wszczebrzeszyn you are such a fool. Magnus even refused to defend his tittle.because WC needs so much energy.
@@baron7199 You're a fool and you haven't shown me such tournament.
I think ding and nepo both exhausted from WCC match, im quite surprised seeing ding and nepo in this tournament few days after grueling WCC match
might be. but their gap isnt really huge should u should not be shocked only magnus is far ahead them losing is just normal
@@shin29534 not far ahead.not 100 elo.
@@baron7199u just don t understand elo. There s a huge difference in 100 elo diff between a 1900 and a 2000 and between a 2750 and a 2850. The 2850 being the first means that if you DRAW vs the 2nd best player you LOSE elo. Gaining elo and maintaning a healthy elo lead as 1st is much much harder considering how hard the points are earned.
@@Sharkmoves far ahead 60 point elo different??
@@baron7199 yes (but i see you ate not able the understand the concept)
Thanks for discussing the disgusting engine line and for your wonderful analysis of the main game. What a great channel you have.
Hi Agadmator, cheers from Zambia
Spectacular indeed!! Fireworks here for sure! Great game Anish!!
For people thinking Re2 at the end of engine line, it doesnt work because of bh6+ and next move the light squared bishop anywhere except 6th rank or h file.
Finally a anish game which is worth to be watched in this channel
Even world champions lose games ... except for Magnus. In the WCC, Ding did lose games, but he won one more game than Ian did (in the tiebreaks) and hence won the WCC.
I love the BB5 and KF6+ engine lines. More disgusting engine lines please!
Ding is tired from the world championship. Just imagine how much preparation he had before.
In other words Ding Lost
Is he the World champion or not ?
Yeah he lost but he is actually the 2nd best player in the world!
If you ask every player which tournament is more important, you will know what everybody will answer you. Good night
@@aco64umjenovic
2nd best player ??
I think Caruana is the best player after Magnus
Even in ELO rating points ding is 4th and soon gonna be 5th or even worse
i like that the engine line was after the main game. it adds nothing to the real analysis of the game so it would be an unnecessary interruption during the main part of the video, but it is still entertaining to watch afterward. please share these excessively ridiculous engine lines after the game like this in future videos!
Anish is a Great Player of course this can go either way nothing surprising
4:15 Giri so bad he missed a forced win in 27 moves.
"those were all some very expensive engine moves" LOL
agadmator's feelings about engine lines: disgust.
agadmator's behaviour about engine lines: discussed.
It’s not that it was not a pause the video moment, but once you say something like disgusting engine line which is forced. That knight check was the move that came to mind when I paused the video and thought about the position. If it forced it most likely starts with a check.
"a bad day of chess is better than any good day at work" well...this quote only works for spectators and only some players
a bad day of chess for example like with Nepo's last game at the WCC I'm sure is comparable to the worst days of anyone
Nice game by Anish Ding is looking very vulnerable lately
Showing other line's at the end is excellent... Will not spoil the flow of original game
Imagine watching this “it’s now we have a new game” hey that’s not true! I had this exact opening the other day! “Well that’s not really true, there’s two very low level games in the database that followed this position” …
I would be honored as one of those low-level players. It would show my crazy idea was actually pretty good. 🙂
I know Agad meant no disrespect but when he said some "2 low level games reached this position on some website", I chuckled
The world champion on the bottom of the leaderboard in a classical tournament. who would have imagined?
world champion and the runner up both at the bottom
Lmao
I love the idea of a beautiful disgusting engine line... 🙂
One Ding To Rule Them All except one ?
#suggestion Lets try some engine games again! Lets check a few highlights from an engine tournaments, with some info about new engines etc. Would mix things up a bit
Anish playing very aggressively, good to see
saw this masterpiece live from there. Awesome
Mr Ding needs rest especially when the sports causes so much mental stress . Ding ll b back . This ain't the prime Ding . Waiting for fresh players with Magnus in the fray . Well we ll be in for a thrill-ride . So many magicians in the chess world . Love chess
You gotta love how Agadmator inserts his own quotes and marks them as 'anonymous'.
Would love to see more disgusting engine lines
This is the second video I see where @agad says "you can see two of my previous videos here", and there is nothing 'there'.
Except two
This is a prophecy fulfilled when kasparov said he believes "this time the world champion will not be the strongest player (or the best)"
most funny thing ever 😢😂 heard anish Giri play like a real attacker hahaha
#Suggestion
GM Adham Fawzy VS GM Belal Bellhacene
African Chess Championship
Ding and Nepo are exhausted from the world championship match
That’s why I love Carlson. No matter World chess championship defending title, he just don’t care and still wining every single other tournament. He’s a beast no need to rest
both nepo and ding are at the bottom of the table, you can tell how exhausted they are.
ding has a lot of weaknesses, nepo should have won, but he didn't
Okay…soon as I saw h4 to support the bishop on g5 I wanted to play bishop to b5 because it is geometrically aesthetic.
Wow Ding and Nepo both at the end of the leaderboard 😳
I know a lot of people are saying that Ding is tired from the WCC, and that's definitelly true, but this is not the kind of performance you expect from a world champion.
Ding chilling
15:12 you could play Re2 to win the bishop
Anish in 2023 sees world champion. Anish in 2023 beats world champion.
I can think of three players who would have on their best days found night to F5 check they are spassky Fischer in Kasparov whether or not they would have gone all the way to Bishop to H6? pinning The Rook is a question for the computers
Will Magnus be playing more tournaments this year?
Very very nice game thanks and good job gery
Brutal doesn't begin to describe this game.
Some Good Games today in the team tournament going on Tigers and Knights
If there’s one thing Magnus had over everyone is STAMINA. Dude could play gruesome 4-5hr games for 3 weeks str8 woth some games going 7-8hrs, and still have enough stamina to play another classical tourney IMMEDIATELY back to back.
Ding is World Champion but he doesnt have stamina. Neither does Ian. They can play 1-2 long games but after that they’d need their rest.
So having said that, who the hell does everyone thinks they are saying “Ding sucks, Ding weak, Ding not WCC worthy” as if they didnt realize both him and Ian came out of their 3.5 weeks of gruesome chess, having 1 week of rest between the WCC and this tourney. With the amount of stamina and energy drained from the WCC, they shouldve skipped this tourney.
To put it into perspective, super gm’s burn 6000 calories when they’re playing their insanely long matches. Think aboout that u bums.
Anish did it again against Ding 😮
Alireza vs nepo please
Ding should probably just return the championship lol
I think there are way too many unforced black moves assumed to consider the computer line a forced mate. Human would not necessarily play all those moves.
seems like Ding is a weak WCC and Blunder-Prone Jan didn't deserve it either. Magnus seems justified in his prophetic statements.
I don't think Anish could calculate the engine line, but I think some strong players would play it. The moves all seemed very logical and natural
lol a 900 saying that anish wouldnt calculate those lines , those lines are inhuman and rightly so even magnus wouldn't have played rook to f1 on move 16
After Magnus, WCC is just a title with no actual meaning.
Anish's Immortal
Rook vs. Bishop pair......just resign!!! I tried to hold it once, it is not possible. It was brutal torture for me.
I looked through this game earlier when I woke up this morning. All I could say is 'what in god's name is going on here?'.
Great Video.
I instantly knew what the acronym stood for, because I'm a fkn nerd 🤣
Ding will be the only WC that will be bullied for 2 years.
My 2 famous nephews, at it again :)
one ding to rule them all O.D.R.T.A.
As the world champion, Ding has a huge target on his back and players are bringing the fight to him. Next candidates cycle, we get to find out if he’s a paper champion
We already know he is...
I think Anish took all the comments of 'drawish Giri' personally
Could someone please tell Ding Liren that losing to Anish "King of Draws" Giri is conduct unbecoming a world champion. Just kidding; we all know that, when in good form, Giri carries quite a punch, as one Magnus would attest.
2nd comment: 2016 WCC - This is relevant to the 2023 WCC.
Please agad cover the other decisive game of the Sergey Karjakin vs Magnus Carlsen 2016 WCC (Game 10, where that TALENTLESS patzer won). #suggestion
What happened is that Magnus lost to Sergey AS WHITE in Game 8 but then compensated for a white loss with A WHITE WIN in Game 10. This is what happened to Ding Liren & Nepo for Games 2 & 4 of the 2023 WCC.
Fun fact for Game 8 - 'After the game Carlsen was visibly uncomfortable and left the press conference before it began, potentially incurring a fine of 5% of his prize money to the organizers Agon, and a further 5% to FIDE.[59] FIDE released a statement the following day indicating that the penalty would be imposed.[61] The fine was reduced on appeal to 5% of the prize money (2.5% to Agon and 2.5% to FIDE).[62]'
For Game 10: Wesley So has some interesting thoughts that DEFY STOCKFISH, as Wesley So did in 2021 St Louis Chess 9LX with the move that won the chessc*m 2021 move of the year award. (Wesley So thinks white 'still had an edge' even though the computer says black is slightly winning.)
Some maths:
Why doesn't a drawn match go to the player w/ more black wins (if any) s.t. Sergey Karjakin not Magnus Carlsen is 2016 WCC? Surely a black win is worth more than a white win. But you might argue 2 draws with black amounts to a win with black. Does it? No question about it in chess960, where there's no theory. In chess? Gestalt psychology says the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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Other suggestions:
Women's chess
A - Was Kg6 in Dina's 1st GM slaying game in Reykjavik sexism? Like looking down on Dina?
B - Anna Cramling's dad beats Mikhail Tal. #suggestion
C - Philippine women's chess #suggestion - WGM Janelle Frayna, the female Wesley So, upset Georgian GM (really GM not just WGM) Bela Khotenashvili at the 2022 world blitz.
There's a 13-move UNDERPROMOTION puzzle here.
[Variant "From Position"]
[FEN "6k1/6b1/1p1P3p/6pP/3pPpP1/p2NqP2/6K1/5Q2"]
1. Qd1 a2 2. Qb3+ Kf8 3. d7 Qe2+ 4. Nf2 Ke7 5. Qd5 Kd8 6. Qe6 Bf6 7. Qe8+ Kc7 8. Qc8+ Kd6 9. e5+ Qxe5 10. d8=R+ Bxd8 11. Qxd8+ Kc6 12. Qa8+ Kb5 13. Qxa2
For some reason none of the Philippine channels except Kelvinllovejr even cover this game. LOL. But Janelle did cover the game where e drew against Nemo, so maybe Janelle will cover this game later on.
P.S. Please help get Wesley So on Lex Fridman's podcast. See
xcdhgq
I now understand Garry Kasparov
I don't understand the title someone could explain?
one ding to rule them all
Basic beginner mistake. Never play G5 when you castle your king. Play G5 first and once the bishop moves then castle….in such positions
15:16 doesn't it rook to E2 wining?
And of course he didn't show the standings 🤣
Anish destroyed Ding omg!!
idk about chess but y not bishop g6 capture?
Nice
You could say "a completely new GM game"
In this tournament Ding having all negative results.😢
Not looking good at all
No fire in his play
@@michaelmassaro4375
5 draws and 2 losses and 0 win 🥴🥴
Is it just me or after magnus retire from classical, classical game become much more complicated, chaotic, and in the style of old master ?. This is mote exciting than positional engine line that always ends in draw
Magnus punishes blunders and blunders less. If this is better chess for you, I recommend watching 1000 ELO players duke it out.
@@ChessJourneyman why so salty sir ? Chill. Blunders are part of chess, no need to harass 1000 elo player blundering pieces. They are human after all
Get rekt, Ding
Chess without a king is boring. We need a Thanos. We need Magnus.
just to make a point
we do like disgusting engine lines
Is Ding really serious or is he tired?
😑😑
He and Nepo are clearly not in the state of classical games. Their body languages and their interviews show they are extremely exhausted.
I think ian and ding need a break.
so many 1sts 🤣
Ding is first among equals except for......you know who