8:18 I personally run the "I love Calydon" team. I personally recommend using Lucy as a DPS on this team, She performs pretty well with both Caeser and Piper!
Finally someone who mentions using qingyi and Caesar with Jane instead of Seth! My Qingyi is glued to Zhu Yuan for 2 team modes but for all the single team modes i think Caesar qingyi Jane are the way to go, especially since I really pushed my drives to get 416AP on Jane without Seth’s buff, so he isn’t providing as much value as something like qingyi’s stun multiplier for me.
@@Eshmasesh671 Chain attacks instantly fill her passion state; more stun leads to more chains more often, so Jane being on field less for dodging balances out. I do have an M2 Jane though, so repeatedly chaining allows me to quickly store an extra Salchow Jump with her M1 regularly, making stun feel a bit nicer whereas a no-stun team wouldn’t be benefitting from the extra capacity since they’d be using the jumps before a second is stored, so that may sway my opinion a bit. I suppose Qingyi and Seth’s buffs are a bit wasted on mobs since you’d be wasting time to stun mobs that can be one-shotted without, likewise Seth’s buffs would largely only contribute to overkill, so it all comes down to who feels more comfy against bosses. One shields and one stuns them more often so I don’t really think you can go wrong with either. I think if you haven’t maxed Jane’s AP, and instead have more attack or pen, then Seth is better for maxing her AP scaling like assault crit, but I think the closer you get to 420AP, then Qingyi may take the lead.
Jane plays differently with stun and onvolves more finicky setups You basically line things up so that the enemy has enough anomaly built up that a chain attack will immediately do an assault, followed by ukt then of done correctly, another assault which totals 3 assaults on one stun window @@Eshmasesh671
I think it's an okay alternative as she doesnt really have too many other great options, but outside the possible impact% I also dont see the benefit of doing so. I would argue depends on what your team wants. I probably should have mentioned and included that in the vid as well though.
@@iamrivenous it's all good. I was also just wasn't sure if what he said about equipping a different type of w-engine so I wanted to verify to other guides if it was true or not. Thank you! I still don't have her tho. Lost my 50/50 to Rina she is now M1. Kinda good for my disorder Grace, Rina and Jane team.
@@myfuntimesgaming Original Transmorpher (defense) gives a conditional, timed 16%. The S rank stun engines give unconditional 18% (and higher base attack), the A ranks unconditional 15%. If you do for some reason value the HP from Transmorpher then sure but otherwise there's no real reason to use it over the convenience of the A rank stun engines (and S ranks are actually strict upgrades).
Wait, is Lucy better than Nicole for Nekomata and Caesar? I've been using them with Nicole. I just got M0 Lucy from the standard banner, and I really want to use her.
Both fine, I personally just find Lucy more comfortable to play, but Nicole works super well too! At some point I just cant list every single team anymore 😅
I've been thinking of putting her in my piper/Lucy team. Rn I have grace there for disorder, but if I were to put Caesar, would it be better to maximize Lucy's anomaly mastery so still trigger disorder?
Here's what I'll do, since I already have stun weapon (anby's) at lvl 60, I'll use that for now, hoping for 1.3 they'll give us ftp weapon for her. let me cope
I thought about adding them as recap at the end, but I think I covered most of it during the video. Weapon too good, not too many alternative options, otherwise just universally great with basically no downsides except the weapon
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8:18 I personally run the "I love Calydon" team. I personally recommend using Lucy as a DPS on this team, She performs pretty well with both Caeser and Piper!
Finally someone who mentions using qingyi and Caesar with Jane instead of Seth!
My Qingyi is glued to Zhu Yuan for 2 team modes but for all the single team modes i think Caesar qingyi Jane are the way to go, especially since I really pushed my drives to get 416AP on Jane without Seth’s buff, so he isn’t providing as much value as something like qingyi’s stun multiplier for me.
Stun is counterproductive to Jane though because she wants to dodge to get more Passion State
@@Eshmasesh671 Chain attacks instantly fill her passion state; more stun leads to more chains more often, so Jane being on field less for dodging balances out. I do have an M2 Jane though, so repeatedly chaining allows me to quickly store an extra Salchow Jump with her M1 regularly, making stun feel a bit nicer whereas a no-stun team wouldn’t be benefitting from the extra capacity since they’d be using the jumps before a second is stored, so that may sway my opinion a bit.
I suppose Qingyi and Seth’s buffs are a bit wasted on mobs since you’d be wasting time to stun mobs that can be one-shotted without, likewise Seth’s buffs would largely only contribute to overkill, so it all comes down to who feels more comfy against bosses. One shields and one stuns them more often so I don’t really think you can go wrong with either. I think if you haven’t maxed Jane’s AP, and instead have more attack or pen, then Seth is better for maxing her AP scaling like assault crit, but I think the closer you get to 420AP, then Qingyi may take the lead.
Jane plays differently with stun and onvolves more finicky setups
You basically line things up so that the enemy has enough anomaly built up that a chain attack will immediately do an assault, followed by ukt then of done correctly, another assault which totals 3 assaults on one stun window @@Eshmasesh671
Thoughts about using a stun w-engine for Caesar? I saw Gouba mentioned it in guides.
I think it's an okay alternative as she doesnt really have too many other great options, but outside the possible impact% I also dont see the benefit of doing so. I would argue depends on what your team wants. I probably should have mentioned and included that in the vid as well though.
@@iamrivenous it's all good. I was also just wasn't sure if what he said about equipping a different type of w-engine so I wanted to verify to other guides if it was true or not. Thank you! I still don't have her tho. Lost my 50/50 to Rina she is now M1. Kinda good for my disorder Grace, Rina and Jane team.
Pretty sure the craftable wengine gives more impact than a stun wengine
@@myfuntimesgaming Original Transmorpher (defense) gives a conditional, timed 16%. The S rank stun engines give unconditional 18% (and higher base attack), the A ranks unconditional 15%. If you do for some reason value the HP from Transmorpher then sure but otherwise there's no real reason to use it over the convenience of the A rank stun engines (and S ranks are actually strict upgrades).
@iamrivenous I think it would be better you pin your comment regarding using stun agent impact W-Engine
I lost the 50/50 and the 75/25 but still managed to get her and her w-engine in 129 pulls thanks to very lucky early pulls, nice
I won! 😁
now trying to decide should I pull her signature or is it better save for Burnice's
Caesar 💪💪💪
So to proc the engine in terms of interrupts what options do I have using Caesar and her teammates?
Wait, is Lucy better than Nicole for Nekomata and Caesar? I've been using them with Nicole. I just got M0 Lucy from the standard banner, and I really want to use her.
Nicole is M1 and Caesar has her signature, if that matters.
Both fine, I personally just find Lucy more comfortable to play, but Nicole works super well too! At some point I just cant list every single team anymore 😅
Both work well with Nekomata but lots of people moved Nicole to their Zhu Yuan teams so Neko is usually run with Lucy in her stead.
I've been thinking of putting her in my piper/Lucy team. Rn I have grace there for disorder, but if I were to put Caesar, would it be better to maximize Lucy's anomaly mastery so still trigger disorder?
Do you think Grace, Seth and Ceasar would be a good team?
Piper, Seth Caesar is much better.
Here's what I'll do, since I already have stun weapon (anby's) at lvl 60, I'll use that for now, hoping for 1.3 they'll give us ftp weapon for her. let me cope
hmmm no mention of zhuyuan at all?
M1 vs Signature Engine?
sig
Can I use stunner wengine on her?
Of course
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EN or JP VA?
@@Shuraig7 JP
when burnice came plz make main dps lucy new video
I lost to that stupid cat 😭
No pros & cons this time?
I thought about adding them as recap at the end, but I think I covered most of it during the video. Weapon too good, not too many alternative options, otherwise just universally great with basically no downsides except the weapon