The Failure of Thundercats (2011) & How Lego Accidentally Killed It
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In this video, we explore the reasons why the 2011 Thundercats reboot animated series was a failure.
Despite high hopes Thundercats failed to live up to expectations and was met with disappointment from fans.
Some blamed poor writing and character development. Some blamed low ratings. Some blamed low toy sales. And all of that was a factor but there was another reason involving Lego that isn't talked about as much.
Whether you're a fan of the original Thundercats or just curious about the 2011 series, we attempt to provide a look at why it was a failure. So, sit back, relax, and join us as we delve into the reasons behind the failure of the 2011 Thundercats series.
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It hurt me so much when they canceled this version of the show... They ended it when it was gettin good.. 🥺🥺🥺
I feel exactly same
Not getting good it was already good, you mean when it was getting even better. 😂
What I remember most was the vehicle designs. Even though the series started without technology, they ended up looking amazingly detailed and well-designed, and especially the flying vehicles, which looked sleek, and their Japanese anime influences were very obvious.
A shame that these never made it into toy form.
It sucked!
@@cedricjocelyn6888 No it wasn't getting better! It was getting worse!
Honestly, if Cartoon Network wasn't going to honor their deal and give us two seasons, they should've at least had the decency to make a movie to wrap things up.
I mean that's essentially what Nick did with rise of the TMNT.
The problem is it seems like they just didn't care enough to even bother with that. The fact they just completely dropped the show with no ending or any final anything to it whatsoever it's such a slap in the face. And they pretty much had the chance they would have with Warner Bros at this point I don't know if anything is likely from them now.
No matter how popular was/is I'm not sure you could open Discovery's purse-strings enough to even get this made with the current circumstances.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu But we still don't know if Rise of the TMNT is canonically the finale.
@@wisconsinking323
I've heard that the "movie" was basically the only way they could get the show wrapped up.
I'm not sure exactly what all the hurdles were but it sounds like that was best-case scenario otherwise it would have just been left dangling forever.
This is actually heartbreaking to hear the full story. The 2011 series really was SO well done in all aspects of storytelling, animation, voice acting, and score. It is unbelievable that a freaking Lego deal is what took it down - especially when what Lego released was a complete rip-off of Lion-O/ThunderCats anyway. So sad that fans never got to see the complete story and 3 seasons planned. It really was a gorgeous show that deserved so much better.
@@caseysanborn1953 While I agree with you that _Thundercats_ (2011) really should have more seasons to finish off the story, as the first season was really well done there - it wasn't The LEGO Company's fault that _Thundercats_ (2011) got cancelled there; it was *_Warner Bros.'s_* fault for not including the Thundercats IP with the licensing deal with The LEGO Company, which is why The LEGO Company moved on and made the LEGO Legends of CHIMA IP. (Also, I don't have any respect for anyone who hates on the LEGO Legends of CHIMA theme and animated T.V. series; as it is one of my all-time favourite LEGO IP/themes and thus sorely miss it after 7 years of nothing from it - which is why I gave a Dislike on your comment, here.)
I always knew Lego Chima seemed to be very inspired by Thundercats but didn’t know they were actually be connected.
Connected, how?
@@mrg466 watch the video you're commenting on
@@messyjetski2549 Ok
I loved this show and actively annoyed friends about watching it who in turn did the same to others. It was a great show that deserved to tell a much larger story.
Unfortunately it was just put out in a time when Cartoon Network was doing a lot of crap that was not cool.
The cancellation of not only the entire toonami block but action pretty much entirely from the channel. Which included the infuriating cancellation of numerous DC properties including Young Justice. The last ten years have seen some of the worst changes at Cartoon Network and this was just the most painful poke in the eye (to the fans) I can remember.
Yeah and I can't believe we got the stupid reboot for kids instead. I'm ok with those reboots as long as we get a conclusion to our current universe favorite but no
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu the art style was different from the OG, but didn’t feel out of place… the tone was both familiar but more evolved than the original and the designs were amazing without losing the sense of who each character was
People kept saying that it felt like a moral lesson overtone kind of show, but then carried on about how the original wasn’t EXACTLY LIKE THAT
Both OG Thundercats and OG He-Man had heavy “lesson of the day” themes. They were both shows targeted to kids that provided basic themes to consider and a progression of character growth
He-Man literally had post-episode “in todays episode/adventure” interactions with the audience to summarize and reenforce the topic addressed
So it always baffled me how people felt that Thundercats 2011 was heavy handed with a “lesson” while forgetting that it was a theme carried over from the 80’s version
@@AronGKatz
I’m still holding out hope for a proper Teen Titans season 6
However I can appreciate the lite-hearted and episodic nature of TT: Go and the style definitely grew on me, especially since the retained the original cast
On the flip side, I saw the trailer for Thundercats Roar! and immediately felt absolutely nothing whatsoever
It looked like a poor man’s cross between Titans Go and Steven Universe but without any of the fun of the former or charm of the latter
@@TheMulToyVerse
The issue is people have total blind nostalgia for the original 80s cartoon and are willing to look past many huge glaring flaws and issues because they have emotional ties to it from their childhoods.
I can understand that but at the same time I can see the issue that causes. Also if I might just chime in on that other comment you made the biggest problem with Teen Titans go is the fact they can't not crap on the fans of the original every chance they get. The show's almost 10 years old and they're still doing that crap which comes off hella petty and frankly bitter that people still like the original over them. Roar was simply garbage. It really felt like the worst tendencies of teen titans go where they just couldn't not mock fans of the original show.
Plus it was basically a retelling of the 80s version but just much much worse.
Roar was not only redundant but totally unnecessary. Nobody needed a "comedic" version of that original 80s cartoon.
One of the things i liked about this series is how they made the Lizardmen sympathetic. They had legitimate gripes with the cats.
As an 80s kid I loved the original series but as a got older I could see it as little campy by today's standards. The 2011 series was outstanding and being in my early thirties back then I could really enjoy the update to character designs, storytelling, and phenomenal animation. Even easter eggs that connecting to other cartoon series like Tiger Sharks and Silverhawks. A tragedy that series didn't a finale.
My wife and I really enjoyed the 2011 Thundercats series. We watched it and were disappointed when it didn't come back. I'm not much of an anime fan, but the complexity of the story was very welcome. It's a shame it didn't continue.
This show was so damn amazing. I was so pissed when it was cancelled and no one else picked it up.
Plus it ended on a cliffhanger!
This and Young Justice deserved better
@@ladynikkie I was sooooo geeked when they announced the return of Young Justice and but the latest run just wasn't at the same level of the original. I was so disappointed.
It sucked!
@@ladynikkie I give you points for Young Justice, but this show sucked!
This chapter of the series deserved to continue. With so much anime out now, a chance for it to finish this arc would be ideal.
Sigh. Just bites how things turned out
The cast, music, animation, and story were excellent. Seriously it needs to be given another chance
The biggest issue is here we are in the HBO Max era (or rather shortly the discovery Max era if I remember correctly what they're rebranding it to) but Warner is pretty much on a short leash with their current ownership. Even though it would be a perfect project to resurrect I almost guarantee it won't happen.
It's such a shame to it would be so awesome to finally finish the series but I feel like it will forever be a lingering thread never to be finished.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu sigh true. It ended way too soon
Agreed but with,david zaslav in charge now that will probably never happen.Far as animation goes anything that as seen for loss of profit is being canceled.
@@Progearspec 🤦 Somehow Velma has earned a second season. That logic hurts my brain
@John Doe Even if they did bring this awesome series back, it is almost guaranteed that they will basterdize it in some way or another (like they have with so many other iconic franchises 🙄). Heck, they already did with that dumb reboot called thunder cats roar. That's why so many of us true fans. Stomped a gigantic mud hole in that abomination and it's pony tail wearing producer 😠👎.
We had just moved out of our house, there was a hoarder living next door:(
In with my in laws AND my son had just had open heart surgery.
Lots going on that summer.
But one thing that calmed me was sitting down and watching this with my 3 year old daughter and loving it
Cartoon network has a history of killing Teen/Young Adult centric cartoons. Remember Young Justice and Symbiotic Titan?
If memory serves this show also kinda led to the creation of Critical Role. I think working on this is where Matt and Liam first became friends and Liam's birthday one shot game was planned, which eventually led to their home game, which eventually became Critical Role.
This was the best kind of reboot. It didn't shit on the old show, it respected it completely. It also carved out its own niche and told its own story.
I went into the 2011 series fully expecting to hate it having grown up with the original at the cherubic age of 5 years old, as reboots tend to poop the bed or dump on the original source material. However, even only having one season it blew my expectations out of the water, shame on WB for letting this drop the way it did.
Such an underrated show, I personally loved the reboot.
It sucked!
I don’t think you know what underrated means.
@@yowatchie I think reception was lukewarm at best. Personally I loved it. It was a shame it was canned after just 1 season.
As someone who grew up watching Thundercats, I really liked this remake. I wish it had gone one longer. I would love a new one on netflix. They already did He-man, Voltron, and She-Ra, all which I really enjoyed!
netflix wrecks every classic ip kids show it touches with needless workness. lets not have netflix ruin any more of my childhood. maybe crunchyroll or hidive can make it happen.
@@davidd.1319 Shut up old man
@@Appalachiosaurus22 really? That is your response. What are you 12? You think I am old. At least I have lives long enough to know a thing or two and have a valid point based on experience. I was 6 when the original Thundercats came. Out. I am not particularly old.
@@davidd.1319 Holy shit dude, you're in your 40s and your whining about "wokeness" in modern day cartoons? Some people just never grow up I guess.
@@Appalachiosaurus22 are you even old enough to be on you tube. Isn't it 13+ to be here
I loved this series, nothing wrong with it in my opinion. And that one episode with the tree people, damn still one of the best animated episodes I’d ever seen ever.
One of many great animated series that ended way too soon.
the annoying thing is they did everything right, but they still failed.
More like the people above them failed
@@andrewgreeb916 All cuz the big guys making the decisions wanted to get the big bucks from selling toys. It isnt fair. It really isnt
The animal-people designs were so distinct and neat in this series. I was really interested in the world building. The bird people and dogs and also all those other species hinted in the space scifi past reveal episode.
I wished we could get one movie or a comic book that could tie up everything from this cartoon. This series rocked hard, and it's a shame on Cartoon Network for canceling it.
I honestly loved this show. Had a lot of great ideas with only a few problems. I was absolutely devastated when it was canceled.
You also missed the part where cartoon network kept changing the time slot without notice and the huge delay between the first and second half of the season airing.
I still think of episode 4 “Song of the Petalars” all the time. It felt like a feature length movie and hit me so hard. I still keep my fingers crossed for another season. 🤞🏽
I miss cartoons having openings in general, they're rare as hell nowadays. Most shows now just have a short ring tone with the title flashing.
I didn't know what a Thundercat was at the time but I _adored_ the 2011 show as a kid. I don't think I saw every episode on account of being 10 and not knowing how to work the recorder in our cable box, but I did take notice of when I stopped seeing commercials for new episodes. Now, the funny thing is, I was also a huge Ninjago fan at the time, so when Chima started airing, I watched that too. I got bored of it pretty quickly and started wondering why there weren't any new Ninjago episodes (haha, fancy that), but not once did I think "Huh, this is kinda like that Thundercats show." Now, before even clicking this video, seeing "Thundercats" and "Lego" in the same sentence made it instantly click in my head. It makes me so sad. Despite watching all 41 episodes of Chima, I look back on the 10 or so episodes of Thundercats I saw a lot more fondly.
Grew up with the original and enjoyed the reboot. Really liked he episode where Lion-O met the species that lived their whole life in a day.
WB and Netflix should come together to make season 2. It's never too late to continue the story and Netflix will have something like Disney has now with X-Men 97
I loved the new take, I would have loved to see more of it.
Mumm-ra's first transformation was perfect and hit all the right notes.
If Adults were watching the show, why didn’t they come out with a Stainless Steel Replica of the Sword of Omens, and the place where the thundercat emblem is shines like a flashlight and projects on a wall in your house. These people were stupid
Edit: but the first Robocop movie, which was definitely not for kids, how did that movie sell kid’s toys?
The problem is, during the 80's when I was a kid, yeah it made sense to have cartoons that were basically 30 minute commercials. But after 2000 they should have given up that idea and focused on the shows. Toys are absolutely nothing today (or in 2000) like they were when I was a kid. I'm still waiting for a really GOOD "MOTU" movie because the only one we got was absolute TRASH!
Toy companies didn't kill the Thundercats reboot the CEO of Cartoon Network did because he couldn't stomach the fact that little girls enjoyed the show just as much as little boys not to mention a whole lot of adults that grew up with the original thunder cats! And let's not forget kids don't play with toys anymore they play with video games. Especially when the toys are such unbelievably cheap brutal fragile ugly pieces of plastic compared to what we had when we were kids!
Funny thing about thundercats roar, the end of the teen titans go crossover, the original Lion-O appears at the end, and snarf is off to the side "Guess no one cares about old Snarf." camera pans out, "Or you....." and 2011 Lion-O is standing there. I really wish they could let Netflix or Hulu produce the 2nd+ seasons and finish the story.
I LOVED this show. It was so sophisticated with gorgeous art direction and style. I really miss it - Have always wished for a T.V. special or a D2V release that could wrap it up. It's too far gone though, it's gone forever now.
Yup, I'm afraid so.
With the current Discovery Warner situation the chance of getting anything is slim to none and slim just left town. I mean they luckily we're able to get the continuation of Young Justice done before the current merger. It would probably have suffered the same infinite non-ending fate otherwise.
"It's too far gone" ... is it? It's a cartoon, so it's not dependent on what the voice actors look like. And it's the 21st century, all the entertainment is at everyone's fingertips. New fans can binge-watch the earlier episodes at their leisure. The studio doesn't have to waste time re-introducing characters to a new audience before they continue the story, the internet can do that for them.
I know continuing the series won't happen. The major tv/movie studios are stuck in the past when it comes to how to handle their content, and still think they need to reboot anything that's been dormant for more than a few weeks. One day, hopefully, someone who understands how the internet works will be put in charge.
This series was so damn good. It was the best of all the modern reboots of 80's shows like He Man, GI Joe, or any of the various Transformers show. A big Problem was Cartoon Network scheduling. I never understood why they only showed these shows once a week. They should have shown it two or three times at least. Show it once on Friday nights then again on Saturday afternoon and then like a tuesday or something.
I’ve always wanted them to make a more serious, grownup version of Thundercats. Grittier and darker.
Loved this series. While the original will always hold a special place in my heart, the 2011 series was vastly superior. I was absolutely shattered when it didn't return. Still holding out hope.
I loved the show. I was so sad when it didn't continue. It was ahead of its time. If it had released when steaming had taken over I think it would have been able to finish telling its arc. Top quality designs and story telling. Very few franchises get such a well realized reboot.
I got into the 80s thundercats in syndication, in the early 90s. I always wondered why Chima felt so much like Thundercats. I will say, I loved the Thundercats reboot series, and was really sad to see it end so suddenly. It really was, in my opinion, one of the best reboots ever made, in that it did feel like they just made a show that delved exactly as deep as I wished the original show had, and nothing more. Also, I must admit, I would have picked up the action figures, but honestly, I didn't like the look of the sculpts, the articulation, how weirdly shiny they were. Even the collector focused ones looked somehow kinda cheap to me. At the time, companies like NECA and Hasbro were messing with doing different levels of matte and glossy finishes more, and seeing those next to these weirdly shiny thundercats made the figures look like they didn't have the love put into them that the new show did.
i was a kid when this show came out and loved it, bought the toys, etc. my dad was into the og thundercats, but this was my thundercats. such a shame it never continued.
Out of the reboot, this was one of the better one (Ducktales is still the best)!
Really wished we get that one more season!
I grew up watching some of the old shows so I was compell to watched the reboot. Also yeah, didn't bother with Roar as it was basiclaly an insult to the franchise!
For me, I think another layer is the fact that killed thunder cats 2011 was the coming terror that was teen titans go. As he stated, the Lego style series in 2012 opened a gate. Make it cheapest as possible and make it for kids because parents will buy anything to shut kids up. As the video showed, this thunder cats used anime style and productions and was not cheap to make. As one panel put it, teen titans go style shows can basically do 4 episodes of material to one ep of this style show. And what have we seen since. A thunder cats style ttg series and others. That is the current model for them, make it cheap. And make a lot of it and then let the kids just keep going. Plus streaming a lot of episodes in a big series makes a lot more revenue from ads and such too.
For me, I loved the 2011 series. It was everything I ever wanted and I also bought the toys and merch and showed my nephews the series. And this was their first time dealing with a canceled show. Just my 2 cents
Frist the drawings, second, the sound effects, third, the actors, last the storylines. Like He- man, She-ra, duck tales, remakes were horrible!!! Back then cartoons, comedy shows, family shows, drama shows, had morals and life learning lessons in them. Today's shows don't.
This wasn't a popular show by many. Don't know many people who watched it or talked about it in school. I loved it. Maybe I was more mature for my age vs my peers.
I got Introduced to thundercats through the reboot. I remember being 11 years old and my life long fantasy and sci-fi obsession was starting. Watching this show with my older brother is one of my favorite memories.
I loved this show, too. So much love and respect for the original and it showed with every episode. I wish it could have concluded properly....Tigra was a douche, though
The episode with the small plant people made me tear up. Few cartoons ever get to do that.
That show was/is amazing. Even your complaint about Panthro's arms was a short lived joke that was quickly wrapped up. After that he got really good and using those arms in combat to basically be spiderman of 3rd Earth.
I remember being skeptical about 2011 Thundercats but fell in love with it on episode 1. It was so good. It deserved better. Much better than that atrocity roar.
The original overall origin story is what made the Thundercats awesome. Escaping a dying planet, lost in space, the only survivors land on a planet, have to rebuild then past enemies and a new enemy Mumm-ra. That is far more compelling then the reboot.
Good god if Thundercats was legitimately following the pattern of the Transformers n GI Joe movies it’s no wonder y it failed the creators of that show forgot what made the 1985 series so freaking awesome
Really great cartoon but they ruined it with thunder cats go
they wrote tigra to be insufferable over the most petty reason in the show while not expanding upon any character development
I wondered why Chima was so suspiciously like Thundercats.
Also another reason I heard bouncing around as to why the show failed was because of a poor consistent schedule in airing where it kept getting bounced around networks and time slots without much notice or directory for the fans so people lost track of the show.
A public channel in mexico did reruns of thundercats in the 00s. So I grew up with it and loved it. The 2011 series was so good. I was really engaged with the characters and the story. And then nothing...
The reboot felt so right that it kinda hurts the way it ended
I remember this series! I was sad to see it go, especially because the design work was top notch! And it's a shame that the Lego deal fell through. A lot of the vehicles were pretty cool, if I recall correctly, and would have made for nice Lego sets.
The other problem with merchandise sales now days is that they’re too darn expensive.
This version suddenly became infinitely better after Thundercats Roar
The greatest lost potential of the series was having some kind of shared Rankin Bass cartoon universe. I don't know how they would have tied Thundercats, Silverhawks and Tigersharks all together but I definitely would have watched it.
This reboot was HORRIBLE! They failed to captured any of the magic from the original Thundercats series such as the idea of a group of super individuals trying to survive after crash landing on an alien planet. The original Thundercats had only the wreckage of their crashed spaceship but they had to forge ahead, explore, make allies, build new equipment, new weapons and construct a new lair while working together. The original series was full of moral lessons for kids (and adults) about being a man, survival, teamwork, loyalty and friendship. The new series had none of these attributes and was extremely lame.
The toy sales were low due to who they targeted we who grew up with the series were too old to purchase said toy …
I really miss this show why Cartoon Network why 😢
when i first heard about the series i was pumped. flash forward 6-9 months later. the series was full swing and doing well ratings wise.. I remember seeing the figures for the line put on the shelf with clearance stickers the week they came out in the same aisle as the bicycles next to the helmets. I knew the whole thing was doomed from the start, sadly when I saw that.
I grew up with the Original Series and I've never seen the reboot.
Imagine if Lego actually went bankrupt, we probably would have saw more Thundercats (2011) seasons. But I still don't understand how Lego Chima would have cancelled this amazing show...
What's really messed up is that Cartoon Network thought that this wasn't worth a second season but that stupid thundercats roar was.
Why have I never heard of Chima????? I've always been a huge Legomaniac. I had the original space sets. Blacktron. M-tron. Why?????
I'm a 2000s kid so I didn't grow up with Thundercats (except for the relient K song) but I liked Chima, not as much as Ninjago but I still liked it. Interesting how so many factors can kill a franchise like that.
unfortunatley, thundercats, ben 10 UAF, at the time young justice, generator rex, and im sure im forgetting something; were marketed more towards teenagers and adults which killed toy sales and eventually killed the shows. Funnily enough if wb had fast tracked a streaming service or waited to release the shows they could have preformed so much better being seperated from their toy centric decisions
I was aware of the original Thundercats growing up, but it seemed like a weaker He-Man series, although I never actually watched it. To be fair, I was a Transformers fan so didn't watch much He-Man either. When the 2011 series came out, I enjoyed it and was disappointed it didn't come back. I got hold of some original episodes from the 80s, but I think you need to have watched it as a kid to get it - watching the 80s show for the first time as an adult doesn't play so well. This is basically the same situation as with the Thunderbirds too - I was aware of the series, never watched it, enjoyed Thunderbirds Are Go, found the original Thunderbirds hard to watch for the first time as an adult.
As much as some people like it, the majority hated it because they changed a lot of things in this remake of the Thundercats. There were a few good episodes, and more not-so-good episodes that overshadowed this show. Not to mention a bad time slot given for the show by CN. Overall, it was cancelled!
Thundercats aired early enough for me in the 80's for me to catch it before I had to leave for school. I love the series and would love for the franchise to take off again, but it sounds like they are trying to use the same formula now as what worked back then that wouldn't work today.
This was an incredible reboot much to my surprise. I’m sad it didn’t continue.
Thundercats is in the same universe as He- Man to me
the Masters of the universe reboot in 2002/2003 was awesome and the Thundercats 2011 reboot was awesome too. It sucks they both got cancelled. With Masters Of The Universe getting rebooted in 2021 maybe Thundercats will get a reboot soon too...
A lot of tv and movie executives should cut toy sales from movies and tv shows, besides younger generations are more interested in computer games than toys ...
everytime i think of this show i just feel sad... what could've been one of the greatest American animated shows ever was just thrown away like it was nothing.
The same thing happened to Extreme Ghostbusters, cancelled before it's time due to poor toy sales! 😒
I remember watching these original cartoons in primary school. The reboot versions wasn't so hot but I still enjoyed it. But I Loved Old Cable TV. 📺
We should just petition Lego and Warners Bros. to make Chima and Thundercat the same universe, but like 1,000 years apart. Problem solved, Lego makes Thundercat toys with molds they already have.
The odd part about the reboot is if they wanted to cash in on merchandise They could've done merch also targeted towards older audiences as well a great example is just simply Tshirts wallets etc basically most merch you'd see in a hot topic for example for someone who's a fan of anime shirts hoodies wallets earrings etc they could've used the toys for the kids the collectable statues for the older collectors and the clothing for those who want a piece of that nostalgia as well it's not too crazy to say that either when marvel and DC do the same thing with characters like the justice league and the avengers
I remember seeing ads for Legends of Chima and thinking "This is just Thundercats if they were Legos!"
Didn't watch the original nor the new one, but I knew who Cheetara was and when I saw her re-imagining in the remake, I was massively disappointed.
She went from being a strong 80's woman to being... Well not that.. Disappointment.
This reboot was amazing, shame it was canned. When they remade the Thunder Cats in the style of Teen Titans Go a few years later it was absolutely horrendous.
Roar is so disrespectful to the 80s cartoons.
I grew up with and loved the original Thundercats. Saturday morning cartoons favorite! I had such high hopes for the new series, it has its moments but overall. It failed to recapture the essence of the original.
*that being said, I did support it in my own way. I purchased all the episodes through amazon*
My friends and I were never into ThunderCats, but as a hardcore He-Man fan, I wish you all the best of luck in the future. Maybe our paths will cross someday?
I loved this show and hated that it got canceled, but in a way I'm glad. I heard in the next season they were going to turn Pumyra into a bug monster and kill her off.
It's complete nonsense that shows like Young Justice can get a revival and more seasons through fan desire, despite the lack of toy sales, but Thundercats 2011 was killed and left to rot. A complete shame that can be rectified, but as of now, hasn't even been glanced at since it's demise.
My honest take as a original old school fan I think instead of rebooting it they should have continued where it left off from the original series. The imagination and ideas from the minds of a true fan would made the show epic.
"What went wrong" you ask ?
I'll tell you what went wrong.
What use to be the Mystic Eye of Thundera is now nothing but a BIG BATTERY.
What was the Sword of Omen is now just a Scrap metal with a battery strap onto it.
the episode with the little leaf people that lived an entire life in 20min was profound. it encapsulated life, death and the circle of life in such an amazing way. still think of it to this day.
"Song of the Petalars" was an impressive episode. It broke through my cynicism and made me care about characters we'd only just met, and would likely never see again :(
Such an impactful episode.
I remember that to this day
God, that one killed me.
thats the only thing i remember from this series, peak television
I met Wiil Friedle at DragonCon a few years back. Most of the people were there to talk to him about Boy Meets World. He seemed ecstatic to talk about Thundercats. I asked him what happened. As said in this video, he said CN cancelled it due to lacks of merchandise sales. But what made it worse was they were initiallly they were given the green light for season 2. He was actually co-writing the episodes and they had already fully written 4 episodes on season 2. He really hated how it just ended the way it did because not only did it end on a cliffhanger but it ended with Mumm-ra winning.
Will is a really down to earth guy. If you ever get the chance to talk to him do so.
Thank you for the explanation.
That’s heart breaking 😭
Are you sure he said it ended with "Mumm-ra winning?" I think the very final scene made it clear that the animals of earth were well on their way to forming an alliance.
@guardianvalor962 yes. But imagine the MCU ending with Infinity War. You would end with Thanos winning.
Thundercats season 2 two girls names Willa and Nyada sisters in those bow and arrow is warriors maidens.
I remember watching the panel for the ThunderCats reboot at the San Diego Comic-Con 2011. Having Larry Kinney voicing Claudius was a perfect way to pass the Baton to the next Lion-O.
*Sword XD
I was at that panel too! Loved getting to watch the first episode.
I was there too with my wife. Both of us grew up with ThunderCats. Got a photo with Larry Kinney after the panel. He was such a nice guy.
I always wondered where Chima came from. It seemed so random. I NEVER would have guessed! Thanks for pulling back another curtain, Dan. Love your work.
I loved the 2011 series so much. It was a perfect compliment to the original series. Thanks Dan for reopening the wounds that was the 2011 series. Don’t even get me started on “Thundecats Roar”🤬. Well I guess I’m go need to schedule an appointment with my therapist now.
Roar not only opened old wounds but also poured salt directly into them. The fact it came almost exactly 10 years after the infinitely superior previous version was just a complete slap in the face like I couldn't believe.
Ah, good ol' Thundercats Roar. "Hey, let's have the show reboot made by a talentless hack who copies whatever he sees is popular without regard for context, and also hated the original show!"
I can't believe Dan low-key just hit us with a -Toy- Secret Galaxy double feature.
I loved how he treated roar,
acknowledged it and moved right along.
@@JohnDoe-wq5euas it should be
@@zainmudassir2964 😆
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu Yeah... but I *_really_* don't like it when he hated on and slandered the _LEGO Legends of CHIMA_ animated T.V. show and related LEGO IP/theme of the same name, which is *_THE_* only reason why I gave this TH-cam video a Dislike! 😑
@@StevenVillman Why shouldn't he? Would you like it if someone took your favorite show and rebranded it into something else? It's not even a good show.
This deserved at least a 2nd season. Such great story telling.
Sucked!
At the very least, they finish the story as a comic series
At least Wildstorm got their crack at doing what I thought was some excellent lore building within the world and some expansion and fleshing out further of some of our favorite characters from the 80s. Plus there's that HeMan crossover floating out there, as well.
That or have a movie to rap up the show. Sure it had a few "adult themes" going on towards the end but... If The Owl House, a show about a lesbian witch, I'm not nocking on the LGTBQ community, but if it can get 3 seasons why can't Netflix pick this up and finish it?
Can you explain why it great?
I'm a 90's child here, I watched the original Thundercats when they had reruns. When the 2011 Thundercats came on Cartoon Network me and my brother were so excited because of the Nostalgia and the awesome looking designs for the characters. We were both so sad how it got abruptly cancelled. Then when Thundercats Roar came out I was disappointed at the poor art direction. This just goes to show long time fans that corporate greed can ruin a good thing.
I still stand by this show as being one of the best reboots ever. It deserved better.
A lot better. What Cartoon Network did (and Warner and whoever continue to do) is just a joke.
The fact that they made a show like roar just to rub salt in the wound and laugh at our pain is also awful.
This reason why I hate capitalism
It was a smart reimagining.
I loved this show (and I wasn't a *huge* fan of the original, I was just a tiny bit too young for it) I still think about it and all the cool stuff that might have happened
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Due to numerous circumstances even though I was probably just about the right age when the show was on or in syndication even I never really experienced it much.
Honestly sadly due to other circumstances I didn't get to enjoy the newer thundercats even until sadly it had already long been cancelled. I just hate the fact that instead of even attempting a third version they just said screw it and turned it into that horrible CalArts monstrosity that was roar. There may have been a bit or even a lot of divisiveness with the 2011 version but I've heard pretty much nothing but hate for roar across the board. I don't even get what the point was. But suffice it to say I think they understood the fans were not amused and whatever new market they thought they was going to showed up never did.
I grew up with the series...I was fully ready to see where the 2011 series was gonna go. I liked how they tied the old into the new.
Same was disappointed when season 2 was canceled
The remix of original story ingredients was good. I liked Mumm Ra as an alien overlord. The episode where we saw Liono's ancestor fighting Mumm Ra was also excellent, they created some interesting history and lore in this series.
This show sucked!
You “grew up with it”? Isn’t that a bit of an exaggeration? It was on for two years. We watched it, had the toys too…but I can’t claim to have grown up with it
Honestly one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. Thundercats 2011 was a triumph of storytelling. We the fans want this amazing series back!
I don't, it sucked!
I hated the love triangle… Poor Lion-O. 😭
@@a1pha_star I'm glad Lion-o didn't get Cheetara, it made the story more real!
@mrg466 EXACTLY! Its people like @alphastar1965 that complained how LionO didnt get the girl when really they were just too immature to appreciate good writing and storytelling.
@@roba5098 The show had its good, but it also had its bad. The Good: Tygra and Snarf was a big improvement . The bad: I hated their version of Panthro and the arms he couldn't even control! I also hated how The Thunder kittens were sillier, had tails and worst of all, they were thieves. Yet, my main issue, they lost focus on getting revenge for their king and father, (plus the king, wasn't necessary a good guy either, which was more realistic)...which isn't always a focus in a animated shows, but is a reality in terms of making the show more realistic. Many rave about this show, but I think many miss the flaws I see in it . Lastly, the episodes started getting worse. I know, because I own the entire series. Enough said.
I wish this series had never ended. When Toonami brought it back in 2012/2013 for another run, I seriously thought that maybe we were gonna get a 2nd season. But it was all for naught.
You're not the only one. Even the people at Toonami were incredibly annoyed they pulled the rights away from them.
I loved Thundercats 2011, the storylines were very interesting & seeing it end like it did was a gut punch
I agree.
Like Wolverine and the X-Men, one perfect season then nothing.
@@urbz6712 that's another one that hurt, so did Green Lantern the Animated Series