Review: MacBook Pro with Touch Bar - a game changer?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Hands on with Apple's new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar. Is it a game changer? First impressions inside.
Subscribe now ► bit.ly/9to5YT
Find USB-C accessories on Amazon ► amzn.to/2f5X3Ne
Watch our impressions of the MacBook Pro without Touch Bar: • Review: 13-inch MacBoo...
● Follow 9to5Mac on Twitter - / 9to5mac
● Follow 9to5Mac on Facebook - / 9to5mac
● Follow Jeff on Twitter - / jeffbenjam
Other Channels:
● 9to5Google - / 9to5google
● Electrek - / electrekco
● 9to5Toys - / 9to5toys
FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links: 9to5mac.com/ab...
I tried the MacBook Pro with the Touch Bar, and I can't say I was impressed.
As a creative, to consistently look down while working to access the buttons on the Touch Bar makes me feel like it takes time away instead improving time productivity.
The keyboard was also a change to get used to, as they transitioned the MacBook keyboard now to the Pro line. I think they should've kept them separate, to give that Professional feel for the user.
Should I need to upgrade, I'll go with the 2015 models. They have what I need.
The thing is you learn to type fast and to not have to look down on the keyboard so you're more productive and now Apple releases this touchbar which seems cool but forces the user to look down repeatedly and use your index fingers like a noob
The touchbar is supposed to deal with dynamic stuff. Ofc, you have to look at dynamic UI no matter where they are: on the screen or the keyboard. You don't use touchbar for typing abcd. And no, you can use any finger to use the touchbar. I usually end up using my middle finger more than my index finger as I do with regular keys.
"I love the presence of the 4 USB-C ports which makes connecting USB-c peripherals and chargers super easy".
LOL
Hey what would happen if you plugged two charging cords in at a time? Or 4? Would it explode?
Nada. It'll only charge from one source at a time.
If one is, say, 60w, and the other 80w, will it pick the higher wattage?
9to5Mac Hey thanks for the reply I left another comment.
I'm not sure. The 13-inch model will only accept 60W, so it's hard to say without trying it. Now if you did the same with the 15-inch model, it would use the higher W charger. Maybe someone else can chime in on this.
In previous versions of MBP, you could always use a bigger charger for a smaller model (i.e. 80W charger on a 13" MBP). I would assume that's still the case. You shouldn't, however, use a smaller charger on the more powerful model.
i never thought someone would call these laptops flexible and mind-blowing in regards to connectivity ...that just shows you how opinions can vary .. really amazing
Your not in the minority Jeff, The touch bar is not necessary and doesn't solve any problems. Apple should have made the high-end 13" and 15" inch without the Touchbar and $300 less on price.
I'm not a Mac user but it just baffles me how they would get rid of all USB ports and even magsafe. If I was to suggest a design for this I would do 2 USB ports at least for sure and then maybe 2 other USB-C to accelerate the transition but not force it on the user. Then charging on both sides is meh. It's cool but not necessary. Macs have relaly good batteries so in general you never see people charging their laptops when they're out and about anyways so not really necessary. Did not understand why the headphone jack was there.. that makes no sense, especially when there's no USB ports and only USB-C, and of course since they got rid of the jack in iPhone 7.. So basically, iPhone 7 users cant really plug in their phone to this mac directly..
Touch bar: it's nice it's cool but it probably would've been a better move to add in a touch screen at that point, especially at that price point. Can't imagine that the touch bar can add a 500$ price to the base model.
What about battery life compared to base MacBook Pro?
I have this model and this computer is amazing! Coming from a 2012 MacBook Pro this is a huge update
Good review Jeff. I like that you compared the maxed out version to base 13" non-touch bar model, as well as got early 2016 MacBook into the mix. Used 12" MacBook for around 1,5 month as the main notebook recently and was surprised by its performance and greatly valued it's completely silent operation and portability. Only 1 port was not convenient for charging but fine due to long battery life, but the fact that it is 5Gb/s USB C port made it impossible to connect to Thundebolt Display or docking stations that I have and that was the main turn off. Now switching from Late 2013 MacBook Pro 15 (Iris only) to maxed out 13" MacBook Pro which seem to cover all the caveats I had about 12" MacBook, provide ample power and ports as well as finally bringing Touch ID into the mix. Don't think that I will miss 15" screen much since for any serious work I use an external monitor as the main work area next to the notebook. The only question remains is how well will a 13" MacBook Pro drive the 5k display...)
If I didn't want to get the touch bar dirty, would it be possible to put a screen protector over it?
Because Apple is a company full of capitalist pigs...then I guess yes haha
Eh, I wouldn't bother to be honest, just wipe it down. But to answer your question, I'm sure some Amazon seller is working on it. Here is one, but it looks pretty terrible amzn.to/2fYPsRQ I'd wait for some better options.
9to5Mac So is the touch bar matte or shiny?
Top Dawg like your iPhone. MacBook Pro should be supposed to run naked. Any extra layer of cover will affect the heat radiation, any extra layer of thickness will press the screen when the MacBook is closed
Top Dawg The touch bar is matte
I think we are at the beginning of something big. We only have seen a few applications for the touch bar. Wait for those creative developers to put their talent to work. Touch ID is huge. I use 1Password and it has been so great to open my password manager with just a touch. Now I can do it on the MacBook Pro. Awesome.
a typical apple fanboy
The tabs in Safari should be favicons on the touch bar IMO
Your favicons/bookmarks show up in the touch bar when you are on a fresh, new tab. You can select which book mark you care access from there.
Colton White That's great, but Safari doesn't show favicons on your tabs like other browsers do, which could be added by showing them on the touch bar instead of showing a tiny picture of a full webpage
Wow, that touch bar is truly a useless marketing gimmick :P
Laudrengen no!?
daniel_960_ Time will tell :) I'm feeling confident.
Just because you can't think of anything it can be useful for doesn't mean it's a gimmick. To me, it's something that going to boost productivity and make common tasks much more intuitive.
Nahiyan Alamgir Constructive! I can think of many things that it can be used for. Just not anything smart ;) And I guess I'll have to say good for you!
i would have preferred they finally bring their laptops full touch screen to compete with the rest of the market.
3:50 I REALLY wish they'd move beyond this finger oil absorbing keyboard material. Going off my 2015 one the matte coating also wears out fast.
What's the battery life like with the i7 and 16 GB of RAM?
Jamie Chen i hear the base model without the touch bar has a hour more battery than the rest because of the 2.0 ghz processor
So base model should be 9 1/2 hours and the rest should be 8 1/2 hours because the i5 and the i7 waste just a bit more juice
I bought this model with all high end upgrades available and am impressed with the performance and capabilities from day to day work yo video/Photo editing. It just runs so smoothly and incredibly fast and easily. Touch bar is an incredible advanced interface with the Mac. It is for me definitely the best notebook ever
After I watched this video, I think touch bar better than touch screen on pc. It is amazing when opening safari I can searching on touch bar just start touch.
A lot of people touch type which makes me think the touch bar could be a bit useless. I don't really want to be looking down at a touch screen to mess about with settings I could do before with out looking.
Oh my god, ports on both sides? THAT IS INNOVATION!! It's not like my WIndows laptop doesn't have that or anything
Your windows laptop doesn't have USB-C. USB-A means 100 ports for 100 features. I see what you call innovation.
Nahiyan Alamgir My Windows laptop is 3 years old so of course it doesn't xD
Touch bar, extra USB C ports aside, what happened to the the rest of the machine? Why focus on something that is a non issue in the first place while negating other aspects like typing experience, prolong usage, battery life, amongst other things like quirks noise, coil whine, etc..
I waited two years for Apple to release a new fantastic machine so that I could replace my MBA 11" mid-2011 that I have loved. Now I'm typing this on a new fully spec'ed Dell XPS 13 with Kaby Lake i7. Why? The new Macbook "pro" has too shallow keyboard, no sdcard slot, no usb a. The thouch bar feels like a gimmick. I find myself using the touch screen on the Dell all the time. Do I miss the industrial design of Apple? Yes. Do I miss the trackpad? Yes. Do I miss MacOS? Yes. Do I regret buying Dell? Not yet.
I'm sorry buddy
"Pro" LMAO
I'm coming from a mid 2012 nonretina MacBook Pro 13 inch, and I must say I'm impressed with the new MacBook pros. I really love the speakers on the 15 inch, it sounds very nice. The dongle life is ok for me. One thing I notice about using the touch bar. I remember surifing the web. My eyes were so focused on my MacBook screen so I completely forgot about the touch bar since I'm no looking down. But there are occasions where I love the touch bar, scrubbing videos on safari for example.
is the touchbar really worth it in your opinion?
No matter how you dress it up, it's just not a value offer. If the price was lower then maybe.
Also they should have included a dongle.(at least ).
I think this was a fair review of this MacBook!! Well said !!
NOBODY types like you do
+Derek Kronenberger I don't actually type like that, I was in an awkward position.
9to5Mac oh haha. Great video, btw!
Thanks :)
Mackey mouse clubhouses
...
Had Apple stuck to it's usual pricing (base model starting at $1200 middle $1500 or $1700) all of the above would have been fine but the pricing is making people think "Why?" "Do I really need it" Touch Bar is a decent compromise to the touch issue. I wished the Touch Bar was a wee bit bigger and the track pad a wee bit smaller.
Could you provide more details on how this spec'd out 13' MBP performs against the base MBP w/ Touch Bar (i5 2.9GHz, 8gb ram). Also, is the battery really that much worse?
You could have bought the 15"with quad core and dedicated graphics for 2399 (100 less). Don't you think it was better?
That was the best review on the new Mac yet !
thank you !!
keep up the good work!!
You are the only commentator I have heard that likes the USBC only inputs. Everybody else ( including me) hates the IO.
TheFluffyDuck the only thing that bother me is the not existing sdcard slot, because you can't replace it with usb.
TheFluffyDuck it annoys me, but I'm fine with it. Just getting a single dongle that takes HDMI, and 3 USB 3.0 and I'd be set for life :p
If you don't like USBC, I feel sorry for you.
I'm also a keyboard shortcuts guy -- and the fact that the touchbar changes for each app running means a lot more time spent looking away from my work to make sure the right few pixels are under my finger. It's a nice option for folks who work in a purely visual manner and/or who like the "wow" factor, but for me... NO, thank you. I'm still trying to figure out why the company that invented the modern all-in-one computer has been steadily stripping ports & functions from their hardware only to give us the touchbar. :-(
the touch bar on the New MacBook Pros should be in addition to all of the traditkeys on a keyboard including not in place of!
I wonder if you can use two chargers to charge at the same time for faster charging time?
Edit. I guess I could have googled it.
Here if anyone else was wondering. Your MacBook Pro draws power from only one power supply, even if more than one is attached-so using multiple power supplies will not speed up charging.
If you connect multiple power supplies to your MacBook Pro, the one that provides the most power will be used, regardless of the order in which you connected them.
You should not connect any power supply that exceeds 100W, as it might damage your Mac.
Nice, but the price tag is out of control, better to wait till next year when they discount this one?
Jeff, I think it's great that you are adept at using the functions. I however am not good with function keys, so for me the touch bar will be very welcome. Good review!
Good to hear. I hope it succeeds and I hope users enjoy it. It's growing on me, slowly.
I’m in a different category. After using computers for about 20 years I only ever used about 2 function key short cuts. Refresh and? I forget. I bought the new 13” MacBook Pro with touch bar- my first Mac computer. I really like it. And I like the touch bar. Finally! Someone replaced the archaic function keys! Good job Apple! This is the future. I’m sure that no computers will have function keys in a few years. They are going the way of the crock pot- and btw I’ve actually gone all Apple. Got my first iPhone too. iPhone 8 Plus. Why? Syncing my Samsung note 3 with Acer laptop was a nightmare. A total headache. Now my new iPhone and MacBook and iPad sync very easily and automatically. I’m very glad I switched
You selected the exact specs I was looking at. However at just under $3000 I am going to have to wait till the current MBP I am currently using dies.
Its hard to find positive comments anywhere ever these days. It's like a challenge..
For me at least, old function keys where almost useless, it's great too see something different. 1 year tops from here, most pcs are going to have USB C everything is going to be USB c and we're gonna be thankful.
Just that price! :( I guess having a great OS is expensive
Great vid
Ahhh the initial so.
;)
Nick Donnelly
Nick Donnelly t
Wait. At 1:30 you say the touch bar version is noticeably better, yet you test them with two very different CPUs. I know you can't spec them with the same i7, but when the entry level one is not even the i7 but only the i5, you are comparing different kinds of apples here.
why dont you buy 15" MBP instead of ur $2499 13" MBP ?
The geek bench 4 scores for the touch bar model feature an i7 processor. If you don't upgrade the processor the non touch vs touch are not too different. And possibly not worth it.
I might be a little late but there is a way to get haptic feedback on the touchbar
Are these new MacBooks better/faster than the older model though?
Jason I know that MacBook Pro are not for gaming but just want to know how good are they hope you make a video on that
You are comparing a spec'd out MBP Touchbar model with the entry level MBP sporting an i5. First of all, the difference - as far as benchmarking is concerned - seems pretty insignificant. I'd love to see the impact on battery life between these two models (1), and some actual tests, e.g. converting a video file or boot up times.
I believe, Apple is stating 10 hours on both machines due to marketing. It is quite impossible for a model with a higher TDP, a smaller battery and an extra display to have a similar battery life than the entry model.
This is the model I ordered! So excited.
Can you comment on the battery life with the souped up RAM and CPU?
what should i buy? 2015 mac pro 13 inch vs 2016 mac pro 13 inch without touch bar? or i should take mac pro with touch bar, other wise just stick on 2015 mac pro 13 inch? pls kindly give me suggestion.
Is that a USB monitor riser you're on? I'm looking for one of those, which is it?
The prices need to be reduced by $300 at least!
It will definitely become more useful like 3D Touch as it adopts
For sure!
how about the speakers quality? the fan noise during high load renders? temps, etc etc. and i've read that the thunderbolt 3 / usb-c chip (intel) for this model was newer. that makes it incompatible with older t3/usb-c devices with TI chip
hey Jeff! I was wondering if you could do a video covering the battery life of the maxed out 13" Macbook Pro because I haven't heard the battery performance of the maxed out one and was seriously considering one for my college and general use. It would be much appreciated by me and many others I'm sure :) Thanks.
Solid release? Looooooooooooool! Surface studio/book is what we call a SOLID release!
Thanks for putting this together.l Apple should have introduced touchID and that would be good enough. How about USB keyboard with TouchID?
Best laptop on the market right now...out selling every windows machine
Clayton Ransehousen best selling = best laptop???
Kingofwale1 well yeah....duh...go on youtube right now and look how many windows laptop videos there are....now look at how many new MBP videos there are
Clayton Ransehousen The MBP is said to be the best and fastest laptop on its category right now.
By......who?
Making blanket claims is silly. Its a mediocre upgrade over the previous model that sacrifices functionality for dongles.
They're selling to pent up demand, just like the 6/6plus. Then the 6s/6splus come along....and sales drop right off. The demand will abate and sales will fall.
Eric Xu the comment seem like it was sarcastic lol
The voice is from IDB, Jeff !!!! Am i right ?
Yes
I notised that too.
Can you do a video comparing the silver and space gray colors?
i wonder if apple can do software updates on the touchbar to make it better?
Elephant in the room - SD card slot
why do you hover your left hand over the keyboard like that? just lower your hand or off to the side
The moment when you are still using a 2010 macbook pro and you are more than happy with it
JCube me too. Just thinking of getting the SSD upgrade and go for the 2016 macbook pro.
This is the first MacBook upgrade than makes me want to hang on to my current model. Apple is in trouble.
give it 5 years. USB C will be everywhere
I ist oft my fist MacBook ever, a 2020 m1 MacBook Pro, and Imma be honest, the Touch Bar is amazing and I loooove the trackpad
do you think it's worth the price for the specs and features you get? i personally think it's to expensive, $200-300 of all models would have been much better.
Jeppe Werring last years MacBook with the same specs as 13 in 1800 cost almost the same.
When the laptop is open and turned off, how can you turn it on since there is no turn on key?
Would you say there is a significant difference between the top i5 processor compared to the i7 processor on the 13inch Touch Bar model?
I have a question- I think you used Adobe Photoshop app is that true?
what happened if you put all the thunderbolt port with charging cable?
Hey Jeff great video! Really appreciate your review. Could you please tell me your opinion, which is better option for Video editing between MacBook pro 13" touch bar vs non touch bar version ?
Should I use this MacBook for web development
Apple's "innovation" are now expensive gimmicks.
Narration of this video goes something like this "Woooow you may think this pile of poop is exactly what you think it is. But wait you can use it as a paper weight or even fertilizer which makes it extremely flexible!" Cmon man there are FAR more important features that should have been priority when this thing was built then the ones you're trying to draw our attention to.
I just tried it and I'm not even close to touching the function keys on my computer while typing normally.
Great review Jeff
Very thorough review -- I enjoy your opinions. Thank you!!
I'm waiting until they will be available in stores but it looks like it might take another 5 months
Jakenova I'm not sure about all countries and locations but at my local store all models with Touch Bar were in stock and able to be sold
***** where is that store located?
Jakenova I'm in Ottawa, Canada but I've heard many stores should have availability this week
***** Canada!! I'm in Toronto but it looks like they don't have it here yet
In Cali there's a lot of Best Buy's that have it in stock
Paying almost 3k on a 13" laptop with top specs that is not even as close to surpassing any of what the other competitors are offering, is to me a serious waste of money. 15" which includes a dedicated gpu of only 2gb or 4gb and those models are reaching 4k price range...Ouch! By all means if this is not expensive for you then cheers to you. But I rather spend my money more wisely.
BRO THIS IS THE JAILBREAK GUY FROM BACK IN THE DAY !
this is jeff with idownloadblog !
I think we want to see a test comparing this macbook to the competition at same price point
can we get a video about 1password and the touch id please?
hope apple make a keyboard with touch bar and touch id for iMac or the others desktop mac
Apple says its says 1000 times "No", for every "Yes". Apparently those 1000 "No"s where horribly uninspired if this MacBookPro is the "Yes". And thats not even about the price which is just making me question the marketing team of Apple even more....
Jeff, you are the best reviewer as usual
is upgrading i7 on the 13 inch worth? also does it affect battery life and heating? really considering it because upgrading the i7 is almost same price with 15 inch
Keith Boon quad core makes a big difference. No point in doing it on the 13 in get the 15. The only thing the i7 will do is extend the life a little more for a lot of money.
This is jack
From 9 to 5 Mac
Totally rhyme!
9to5Mac: Could you compare rigorous 4K video editing process speed from beginning to end on both the touchbar and non-touchbar version? Also could you compare with previous generation?
I have a theory, but I'd like to see if any other people think it has any validity. Since the trackpad has continuously gotten bigger each release, what if the apple pencil (or some stylus) is one day able to control the mouse on screen by moving around on the pad? It would be cool for drawing applications, user control, etc. Just my thoughts.
I see what you're saying. It would not be without a redesign, for sure, but I would like to see it.
What would happen if we charge this macbook on its 4 ports at the same time?
Nice review!
I can't wait to get mines
4K Editing in Adobe Premiere Pro is as smooth as in Final Cut?
Wait, the 13 inch touch bar can handle 4k in FCP?!
Can someone tell me why you would select the i7 version over the i5. Both are dual core with hyper threading.
When you put a fingers to the Touch ID to buy for the Apple Pay
Nice review. Conclusions= Money, Money, Money.
after the adjusting period for users and devs I think the touch bar will be successful
*Just imagine one day the macbook will be so advanced it will have extra ports integrated into the device...*