Yes, the LED filament bulbs are far more efficient and will out last any incandescent. However, some of the LED filament lamps flicker to the power line frequency... very hard on the eyes! Then there are the other LED types that have electronics in them that cause RFI, which is a growing concern. It depends on what you want, but for the total look and feel of retro, I like real incandescent buls.
Many people don't realize that the way LEDs work is rapid flashing. I've switched all my lights out with halogen or incandescent and NOTHING beats the warmth and feel of those lights. The cost of electric is through the roof and I don't care about the bill. I care about my health, mood, and well-being. I simply turn off lights I'm not using. Wow, never knew going green could be so simple😂
The vintage style leds are getting better all the time, but with these types of bulbs, aesthetics is the primary concern, and they haven’t quite matched the authentic look of the tungsten filament squirrel cage bulbs yet.
thats not true .... LED has alot rf draw backs... 1 the filament looks horrible... 2 the CRI is bad... and when we are at 100% clean energy CFL and LED has alot of waste when dead... and you cant recycle them properly... incandescent you can easily recycle them... it might be tuff the dispose the tungsten filament but at least its cleaner than the CFL and LED materials
Kek5kopF You are right! I just bought three 40W Feit brand for my bedroom. I love them! I won't go back to regular bulbs. And they're exposed so you can see the beauty of them! Incandescent is the way to go if your looking for the real look of the vintage bulb.
I'm usually in favor of modern technology especially when it's cheap and efficient but sometimes you just want to go old school. Even if they are more expensive to operate, those Edison style incandescent bulbs just look really nice and have a vintage look that you can't really get any other way. Sure you could go with the cheap, efficient LED filament bulbs, but they just don't look genuine enough to capture that authentic vintage look that you may be going for. That's where you have to think about the price you're willing to pay for decoration. Personally, I've thought about buying an Edison incandescent bulb, but only as a one-time novelty. In that case, energy efficiency or lifespan wouldn't matter. In the case of restaurants, pubs, or other establishments, they would just have to factor them into the maintenance costs of their decor. I doubt that successful businesses would have a problem with that. If it helps set the atmosphere that customers like, it's worth the cost.
+APPLBL00M For a business to be successful you have to reduce outgoings as much as possible, if that means buying a slightly more expensive replica bulb that costs much less to run and lasts a lot longer then that's what you'll do. Not to mention, when they are turned on and dimmed at the distance most customers will be sitting they either won't notice or won't know the difference anyway. I get what you're saying, sometimes i'ts nice to go original, and if I was having a couple in my own home I would probably be tempted to, if I was running a business, i'd go for the cheaper option every single time.
Yes they will notice. LEDs do not produce a glow, just a dull synthetic copy of a glow. With poorer colour rendering. Both those factors DO affect the ambiance in a room in quite a tangible way. Feel free to compare for yourself and you will see. If I go out for a cosy romantic dinner and walk in to a restaurant with fake light, I turn my heel and head for one that has the real thing. I 'm not going to want to sit under some gloomy synthetic light and both look and feel terrible. So using LED or CFLs is more likely to scare off potential customers, whereas the real thing attracts people like a magnet. I understand that a business needs to watch its expenses. But this is one area where it actually pays to pay a little extra for the real thing. Just like investing in candles, fresh flowers etc. Those who want fake light and fake food can go to a fast-food restaurant. Using LED there makes a lot more sense.
@@Nebunlina MAY THE HEAVENLY FATHER BLESS YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. I HATE THAT COLD LED LIGHT. old bulbs light is completly different. people are just so evil these last days
@@userjarabecko You do realize that you can get LED (and fluorescent lamps) in any color you want, right? Warm white/soft white 2700-3000 kelvin is like an incandescent lamp, Cool white 4100 Kelvin is that pure white you see in offices, hospitals, commercial spaces, and in garages, basements and bathrooms. White or bright white 3500 is in between soft and cool white. It's used in some businesses and pharmacies, I quite like it. Daylight 5,000 to 65000 kelvin is that bluish daylight. Most people don't like it for indoor lighting as it looks too blue.
These are great. I think they look almost authentic, a bit faux maybe if you really need to stare at them details. But these are giant improvement in previous tech. And at any rate their performance is pretty impressive, plus the fact they look not too shabby is just bonus.
Take some clear incandescent 60 or 100 watt bulbs and put them in series strings. Amazing how nice of a glow (2) 100 watt incandescents make when running on 120 volts AC. Add more bulbs to the series string to make lower light. A string of 4 bulbs has each bulb running at 30 volts. That creates very low, very pleasant late-night mood lighting. Add a variac for more options. Have some nice big old open knife switches to short across various bulbs, cutting them out of the string. Open a switch to cut in a lamp.
Thank you so much I've been looking for a good example of how bright a 40 watt filament bulb is! In Fallout there's a vault lit entirely with 40 watt bulbs and I wanted to see how bright that would be.
I have an incandescent Edison that was made when this video was uploaded. I have consistently used it in my desk lamp at least thirteen hours a day, every day for six years thus far and it's still going. It was only one in a box of ten I bought. No LEDs for me.
365 days x 13 hours x 40 watts x 6 years = 1,138,800 Wh or 1,138.8kwh x $.14per kwh (national avg) = $159.432 ytd on electricity. You could've used an led and then with all the saved money buy 132 more leds to outfit the rest of your house and some for backup. Leds > incandescent any day
@@andyblinkblink4198 Fortunately where I live, we have clean nuclear and hydro supplying 95% of our power. Oh and yes, my apartment building has grandfathered electricity.
I still like the incandesvent (the original version) way more because it has such a stunning pattern in it and i like the glow of it way more than the led version
I disagree, I ve had my two edison bulbs in my room for 5 years now and they havent gone out yet. But regular led bulbs dont last. It might help if the bulb is lit by the Force too .
Incandescent are easier on the eyes. LED burns your eyes. And when u turn them down, they don't even look right. Incandescent while using more power, gives off more liveable light. LEDs also have a theoretical longer life but many times they fail prematurely. Just saying I wish LEDS were all that they are cracked out to be but aren't. I'd rather save my eyesight with Incandescent than burn them up with LEDs. Anyone who's had LED bulbs staring at their eyes for more than a few seconds know what I'm talking about ... the LED eye PAIN!
+peachees The LEDs would last a long time if they aren't run at their limit. But the electrolytic capacitors used in current designs will fail after about two years.
+peachees LEDs have a terrible glare because they are tiny but very bright points. You need diffusers to make LEDs bearable. I can never stand the direct sight of LEDs or understand why people think thats acceptable. But I think LED filaments solve that by spreading more evenly. LED light is still very narrow spectrum though which always makes it different from natural or incandescent light. I like those too. E.g. halogen spotlights, really nice! But for the cost, I'll just accept the nicest light is for the sunny days.
mark smith actually they are, warmth is literally just color temperatures which is measured in Kelvin. incandescents are 2400 Kelvin and these LEDs are actually even warmer at 2200k, candle light is 1500k. Most residential LED bulbs are now around 2700k which is just a slightly more neutral incandescent. this is on top of LEDs chewing six times fewer watts and lasting for like five years instead of one year
Then why do LED's cause so much visual fatigue for so many people? You can quote all the specs you want but the bottom line is for a pleasant experience on the eyes....LED's just plain suck. What they ARE great at is illuminating snow! In that they are fabulous. Especially the 5000k or higher ones. For obvious reasons. We need to seriously work on softeners and diffusers for LED's so they can be used without giving us a headache. We all love the power savings. We just hate the actual light they produce. (Just a minor factor I'm sure.....)
LEDs can't run on AC. They have a bridge rectifier that converts the AC into pulsed DC. Nowadays some of the LED bulbs with bigger drivers have more capacitors to help minimize the flicker but most filament LEDs still struggle with pretty high flickering
Quality vs quantity. I prefer quality. And I mainly use 7 watt incandescents anyway so it's not like it's costing a lot. The "decorative" filament LEDs give very poor quality light. Fine outdoors but not indoors if you care anything for light quality, colour rendering and cosy atmosphere. LED light is just gloomy.
I like this demonstrational comparison you put up here, also how you guys went about it, where could I buy the globe bulbs for vanity? I ask out of curiosity prior to where I can get said bulbs because I have a vanity that lights the bathroom in my house, said bathroom vanity right now has 4 incandescent 40 watt, G25 type bulbs, I plan to replace them when they burn out, too. so on one of my paychecks I hope to find a nearby store that sells the LED filament globes, after all I am the one of the house that changes the bulbs when they go dark. my apologies for such a long comment by the way.
Does this mean that Incandescent bulbs will wear out quickly? I like Edison bulbs much more, but I'm afraid of the lifespan, is it possible that their lifespan is 10 times shorter? And is the lifetime of the light bulb destroyed if a dimmer is used?
Don't ever believe the hype of LEDs lasting longer. It's a gimmick like anything else. I just moved into a new place with little chandeliers in the foyer and hallway with Edison looking LED lights and after about a week one started screwing up and blinking. I had thought that they were incandescent up till that point. So I immediately went out and bought the real deal and they work/look much better. Easier on the eyes. Another thing I noticed when removing the LED bulbs is that the base of them was getting hotter than the real bulbs and actually had somewhat melted the plastic sleeves around the base of the bulbs. The LED bulbs house the power chips and components in the base and while the lights themselves run cool, the base runs HOT! Something to keep in mind. Is burning down your house worth the energy savings? Yes, good question indeed.
Yeah, but are only being fed 10% or less of full power to get them to last like that. The Firehouse Centennial light bulb in CA is burning day and night and has been over a 100 years and is impressive. But its on a low voltage circuit and glowing dim. I can only imaging how long a good LED could burn for on a stable power supply... 300 years?
@@deanhite3078 "Yeah, but are only being fed 10% or less of full power to get them to last like that. " you need to reduce voltage by something like 35% to get 100 years out of normal light bulb, " The Firehouse Centennial light bulb in CA is burning day and night and has been over a 100 years and is impressive. " yea its not, just buy some crapy Russian light bulb in Russia and put in in USA handicaped 110V system(that is so handicaped thanks to Edison that didnt invent light bulb, he only invented this limit on light bulb life span, in this movie you have old bulbs before this "invention" was perfected, thats why its 3000 hours when any modern have avg life span of 1000h all over the world). The Firehouse Centennial bulb was propably from time when other higher voltage systems was used or the light bulb is from Europe or any other place where they using 200+ volts...
Wish they could make old fashioned C7 multi and clear Christmas lights like this. The tinted light that comes out of LED Christmas lights is horrible and over powering. Wish they could make them with glass shell (not plastic) that is tinted to change a warm white LED bulb to the traditional colors we’ve had forever, not the harsh blues of LED’s that put your eyes out they’re so overpowering
Seems to me (especially on the camera) that the color temperature of the LED version is very close to that of the incandescent. How's it to the eye? Is it enough warm white or it goes more to the neutral? How is the color rendering at least to the eye? Can you tell that it's an LED light or it seems like an incandescent.
+Origoangelohrol322 I bought a similar filament LED with very high CRI (90). It looked close enough to a decorative incandescent lamp for use outdoors. But indoors it still looked and felt a bit "off" and not quite like the real thing - which is not surprising as it is a synthetic copy and that can never be quite like a natural light-source such as incandescent light or daylight. It's like polyester compared with silk. May be practical and more durable but it can never have that same unique quality.
Exactly the same light? Nope! Light colour is just ONE of the parameters of light. Colour rendition is just as important or the colours of your room will look dull and grey. No synthetic light gives the same colour rendition and as natural incandescent light. Save a lot? Half true. If the LEDs have poor power factor (and most do) it will use almost twice its rated watts in volt-amperes.
I use 7 watt incandescent bulbs as I prefer more quality to quantity. Halogen is just an improved incandescent bulb. Halogen lamps are the most stable in light colour of all lamps. Standard incandescent lamps may get a bit weaker with age (thus slightly warmer) and sooty on the inside of the bulb, but the halogen gas recycles the soot particles back to the tungsten filament. Like all natural light sources, the colour temperature in incandescent and halogen incandescent lamps is dynamic, following the Planck curve = it gets whiter when it's brighter and more orange-red when it's dimmed down or low lumen, which is what is generally perceived as natural. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruithof_curve Synthetic light, on the other hand, is composed of a mixture of phosphors which create a static light colour that only changes with age as the phosphors are used up at different rates. This is also why fluorescent, HID, and LED lamps may turn more blue or green with age while it also gets more dim - which is the opposite of what is perceived as natural. Dim light should always be more red, like a candle. This also why you get so many inadvertently different ranges of colour even among CFL and LED lamps sold as "warm white". Because it's just a poor copy of the real thing and not easy to get the exact right mixture of phosphors for each lamp. Although it has gotten better lately. But will never be perfect because it is a composite chemical light and not a natural light source.
why dont you calculate it at all. Lets say there are 35 Watts in difference. You got 10 bulbs and you let them on 8 hours a day. Its a 1000 kW a year you save! (around 300 $)
But they don't actually save that much. Savings are calculated on best virtual scenario for the best and most expensive lamps on the market, used in optimal lab conditions, burning position etc where they don't overheat. Poor power factor makes them save less. Cheap drivers can limit their life. If you live in a cold climate zone the heat replacement effect eats up any savings (since it is the heat output that constitutes the ONLY difference between an incandescent bulb and a lower quality "energy saver"). And home lighting is still just a tiny fraction (≈3%) of a household's total energy consumption, so changing bulbs is one of the least effective things one can do at home. Making everyone believe they can make a real difference is just the result of an extremely well-coordinated and persistent PR campaign.
I need a low Lumen LED Vintage looking bulb for my bankers lamp to replace my incandescent one. But can't find one anywhere. The Lumens should be 200-250 preferrably.
The incandescent bulb , shape as above , ( dimmed to ⅓ .... 80 Volts for a 240 Volt bulb ) makes a superb night light , giving the authentic pleasing orange glow of an old valve radio ( ! ) .... LED bulbs are superbly efficient , but when dimmed the output colour does NOT change , they just get dim ....also reducing the voltage to ⅓ makes the Tungsten filament lamp last many , many decades ( tried - n - tested )..... DAVE™ ......................
Can I use it for dimmer Lamps? Is there a device that I can screw in the E27 and then a light bulb the device has a dimmer. Does something like this exist?
LEDs, when dimmed, flicker in a square wave that damages eye tissue and strains eye muscles and stresses brain (requires more computational capacity to decipher a flickering image.). Add to that LEDs lack many of the "nutritionally required" colors and lacks healing infra red... Just a bad idea except to distract loiterers and make the parking lot an undesirable hang out spot. Incandescents provide full nutritional wavelength spectrum like a top quality multi.vitamin. LEDs are like white flour... Toxic
No LED bulb gives that low light decorative orange glow. I have a book shelf of them. They are fine for bulbs inside a shade or cover though, but they will never replace those incandescent decorative bulbs. So much so, that I have bought at least $900 in decorative bulbs, just bought 3 more G200. Since the 3 Edison bulbs I have lasted 3 years so far and have never burnt out. I figure I have a life times supply. I only run these bulbs at around 25-30% power on a multiple smart dimmer cords. Might need a few more 8 inch T9's, might even buy 2 more G200 and a few more G125 but until they can make thin filament LED no way I will have those bare LED's. I have tried just about every brand of dimmable LED on the market, if only the functioned well at 20-30% power and had thinner LED filaments....... It's all about the steampunk pipe lamps.
If we all died from global warming, there are no people to care. Incandescent takes too much power. Most people don't know /feel the difference. It's outlawed everywhere bro.
manicniceguy China actually has the world's biggest green energy infrastructure and on schedule to built 100 nuclear power plants to move away from coal fire plants.
HackingDutchman Incandescent ones use tungsten filament with inert gases as nitrogen or argon. LEDs are totally different technology that is no way close to natural and not very safe either. Incandescents with tungsten filaments were the best choice I feel.
Yes. There are tons of those really cheap _"die-on-board"_ blue LED's mounted onto thin, and about inch long PCB type substrate with a small silicone tubing with phosphor slipped over the board to convert some of that light to red-green. th-cam.com/video/H_XiunR-cAQ/w-d-xo.html
Probably expensive. Thats a lot of LED to fail too..... Has anyone in the history of LED Light Bulbs (not individual led's) "EVER" been able to get one to 30,000hours?! LED's might last 30k hours but the micro ac to dc transformers that drive them never will.
Will Davis If you use those LED's for 8 hours per day and they have 30,000 hours life than you should end up with 10.27 years out of them. You are lucky if you get 3 month out of incandescent bulbs and 1-2 years of screw-in fluorescent bulbs. So any thing that last longer is a plus.
+JoeVSvolcano Here is an update. One of my first LED's promised me 50,000 hours. Then they went to 25,000 hours and 15,000 hours. The newer LED's now have only 5,000 hours. Well, I guess we end up with the same junk hours that incandescent bulbs provided. The only thing that is different, that LED's are more expensive,
Ya, the only LED arrays I've ever had last are 12VDC replacement bulbs in my RV. When purchasing an AC Bulb type LED make sure it has a nice heavy heat sink on it too....
+Bonnie Flory Yeah you are completely right! If you calculate the price of the LED bulb compared to the price of the incandescent and the electricity consumed for a unity of time you'll end with a very similar cost per hour of light of the same intensity. Yeah you'll have a little lower price for the LED but at the cost of worse light in terms of color temperature and color rendering index. So that's why I'm using incandescent light bulbs everywhere in my home. I don't care about a 2-3$ a month spared from electricity for lighting.
The colour temperature of the light is too white. Manufactures of LED bulbs, please make them 2200K or lower. Stop with the 2700K and higher nonsense for these decorative bulbs.
savedfaves I will bring back the incandescent if there no longer being made.... there will also be the smallest incandescent... size less then a quarter
The reason for that is the LEDs themselves are actually blue but they use a phosphor to convert the blue light to lower the color temperature. The issue is the lower the color temperature, the more phosphor you need and therefore the hotter and less efficient the light is
135 lumen / 40 watts = 3.375 lumens per watt 440 lumen / 3.7 watts = 118.919 lumens per watt 3.375:118.919 = 1:35 The LED bulb is putting out 35 times the light per watt! Enough said! This is how the future looks, people. Kids will just grow up on different, better stuff. They won't feel nostalgic toward low-tech bulbs the way you do. Let go of the past- you're only remembering it through the rose-colored glasses of someone who no longer has to deal with it the way it was anyway.
Poor Thomas Edison...a lousy 100 years plus with his invention! Actually, I think he would be thrilled with the LED technology...and would have probably come up with TONS of neat new inventions with them!
@@Nebunlina Nope, he didnt improve it, he got small army of something like 100 engineers(or more) that was working after hours for very little $ and they improved the light bulb for him, he propably only invented idea that they did to good job and thats why modern versions works only for 1000 hours when at the begining of mass production they were allready working for 1500 hours and in this video he is showing 3000 hours version...
This is stupid. You're comparing a Carbon Filament to a LED? You do realise Tungsten Filament Incandescents were 3x more efficient? A 100w Incandescent is equivalent to a 1000 lumen LED. Yes, that's still inefficient but not as bad.
If the point is to REPLICATE the old bulbs then the LED just doesn't cut it. There's no comparison between the two in terms of colour temperature. Americans waste so much of their food. Wonder why they'd worry so much about electricity when it's just a few bulbs for decoration.
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Yes, the LED filament bulbs are far more efficient and will out last any incandescent. However, some of the LED filament lamps flicker to the power line frequency... very hard on the eyes! Then there are the other LED types that have electronics in them that cause RFI, which is a growing concern. It depends on what you want, but for the total look and feel of retro, I like real incandescent buls.
Power conditioner...
It is noticeable to your eyes when you're waving your hand slowly.
That ain't true if you buy decent LEDs and not cheap garbage.
Exactly. I'll be a die hard for incandescents. I'll buy all candela fitting lamps if I have too.
Many people don't realize that the way LEDs work is rapid flashing. I've switched all my lights out with halogen or incandescent and NOTHING beats the warmth and feel of those lights. The cost of electric is through the roof and I don't care about the bill. I care about my health, mood, and well-being. I simply turn off lights I'm not using. Wow, never knew going green could be so simple😂
The vintage style leds are getting better all the time, but with these types of bulbs, aesthetics is the primary concern, and they haven’t quite matched the authentic look of the tungsten filament squirrel cage bulbs yet.
finally some LED that can replace incandescent withou loss in quality, I'm gonna use it all over my house
thats not true .... LED has alot rf draw backs... 1 the filament looks horrible... 2 the CRI is bad... and when we are at 100% clean energy CFL and LED has alot of waste when dead... and you cant recycle them properly... incandescent you can easily recycle them... it might be tuff the dispose the tungsten filament but at least its cleaner than the CFL and LED materials
and thoes 2 things are only the surface
@@Scudmaster11 dude the enviroment isnt excuse for anything so stop with that speech and find a better argument
This was a year ago
You notice you are old when the term 'retro' refers to objects that you normally used every day when you were younger.
man you must be old when your light bulbs looked like the ones made 100 years ago..
Say with the incandescent light bulbs... there just better
this shape is old-fashioned, not the bulb
The regular one still looks way better than the LED one. I'll order some and compare them... 60W incendescent ones though
Kek5kopF You are right! I just bought three 40W Feit brand for my bedroom. I love them! I won't go back to regular bulbs. And they're exposed so you can see the beauty of them! Incandescent is the way to go if your looking for the real look of the vintage bulb.
I'm usually in favor of modern technology especially when it's cheap and efficient but sometimes you just want to go old school. Even if they are more expensive to operate, those Edison style incandescent bulbs just look really nice and have a vintage look that you can't really get any other way. Sure you could go with the cheap, efficient LED filament bulbs, but they just don't look genuine enough to capture that authentic vintage look that you may be going for. That's where you have to think about the price you're willing to pay for decoration. Personally, I've thought about buying an Edison incandescent bulb, but only as a one-time novelty. In that case, energy efficiency or lifespan wouldn't matter. In the case of restaurants, pubs, or other establishments, they would just have to factor them into the maintenance costs of their decor. I doubt that successful businesses would have a problem with that. If it helps set the atmosphere that customers like, it's worth the cost.
+APPLBL00M For a business to be successful you have to reduce outgoings as much as possible, if that means buying a slightly more expensive replica bulb that costs much less to run and lasts a lot longer then that's what you'll do. Not to mention, when they are turned on and dimmed at the distance most customers will be sitting they either won't notice or won't know the difference anyway.
I get what you're saying, sometimes i'ts nice to go original, and if I was having a couple in my own home I would probably be tempted to, if I was running a business, i'd go for the cheaper option every single time.
Yes they will notice. LEDs do not produce a glow, just a dull synthetic copy of a glow. With poorer colour rendering. Both those factors DO affect the ambiance in a room in quite a tangible way. Feel free to compare for yourself and you will see.
If I go out for a cosy romantic dinner and walk in to a restaurant with fake light, I turn my heel and head for one that has the real thing. I 'm not going to want to sit under some gloomy synthetic light and both look and feel terrible.
So using LED or CFLs is more likely to scare off potential customers, whereas the real thing attracts people like a magnet. I understand that a business needs to watch its expenses. But this is one area where it actually pays to pay a little extra for the real thing. Just like investing in candles, fresh flowers etc.
Those who want fake light and fake food can go to a fast-food restaurant. Using LED there makes a lot more sense.
Old comment, but I disagree. Done properly, I believe the filament LEDs look quite authentic.
@@Nebunlina MAY THE HEAVENLY FATHER BLESS YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. I HATE THAT COLD LED LIGHT. old bulbs light is completly different. people are just so evil these last days
@@userjarabecko You do realize that you can get LED (and fluorescent lamps) in any color you want, right? Warm white/soft white 2700-3000 kelvin is like an incandescent lamp, Cool white 4100 Kelvin is that pure white you see in offices, hospitals, commercial spaces, and in garages, basements and bathrooms. White or bright white 3500 is in between soft and cool white. It's used in some businesses and pharmacies, I quite like it. Daylight 5,000 to 65000 kelvin is that bluish daylight. Most people don't like it for indoor lighting as it looks too blue.
These are great. I think they look almost authentic, a bit faux maybe if you really need to stare at them details.
But these are giant improvement in previous tech. And at any rate their performance is pretty impressive, plus the fact they look not too shabby is just bonus.
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Take some clear incandescent 60 or 100 watt bulbs and put them in series strings. Amazing how nice of a glow (2) 100 watt incandescents make when running on 120 volts AC.
Add more bulbs to the series string to make lower light. A string of 4 bulbs has each bulb running at 30 volts. That creates very low, very pleasant late-night mood lighting.
Add a variac for more options. Have some nice big old open knife switches to short across various bulbs, cutting them out of the string. Open a switch to cut in a lamp.
Thank you so much I've been looking for a good example of how bright a 40 watt filament bulb is! In Fallout there's a vault lit entirely with 40 watt bulbs and I wanted to see how bright that would be.
I have an incandescent Edison that was made when this video was uploaded. I have consistently used it in my desk lamp at least thirteen hours a day, every day for six years thus far and it's still going. It was only one in a box of ten I bought. No LEDs for me.
365 days x 13 hours x 40 watts x 6 years = 1,138,800 Wh or 1,138.8kwh x $.14per kwh (national avg) = $159.432 ytd on electricity. You could've used an led and then with all the saved money buy 132 more leds to outfit the rest of your house and some for backup. Leds > incandescent any day
@@andyblinkblink4198 Fortunately where I live, we have clean nuclear and hydro supplying 95% of our power. Oh and yes, my apartment building has grandfathered electricity.
I still like the incandesvent (the original version) way more because it has such a stunning pattern in it and i like the glow of it way more than the led version
I will always prefer incandescens but i really coudn't find the difefrence between those two, I think this LED filament is preety good
I disagree, I ve had my two edison bulbs in my room for 5 years now and they havent gone out yet. But regular led bulbs dont last. It might help if the bulb is lit by the Force too .
The led filament bulb is far more efficient than incandescent, the well quality controlled led filament bulbs no flicker.
Can you tell me what the PWM flicker frequency is on these LED when dimmed and at what levels, what is the flicker frequency at 100% power, thanks.
Incandescent are easier on the eyes. LED burns your eyes. And when u turn them down, they don't even look right. Incandescent while using more power, gives off more liveable light.
LEDs also have a theoretical longer life but many times they fail prematurely.
Just saying I wish LEDS were all that they are cracked out to be but aren't.
I'd rather save my eyesight with Incandescent than burn them up with LEDs. Anyone who's had LED bulbs staring at their eyes for more than a few seconds know what I'm talking about ... the LED eye PAIN!
+peachees The LEDs would last a long time if they aren't run at their limit. But the electrolytic capacitors used in current designs will fail after about two years.
+peachees LEDs have a terrible glare because they are tiny but very bright points. You need diffusers to make LEDs bearable. I can never stand the direct sight of LEDs or understand why people think thats acceptable. But I think LED filaments solve that by spreading more evenly.
LED light is still very narrow spectrum though which always makes it different from natural or incandescent light. I like those too. E.g. halogen spotlights, really nice! But for the cost, I'll just accept the nicest light is for the sunny days.
mark smith
actually they are, warmth is literally just color temperatures which is measured in Kelvin. incandescents are 2400 Kelvin and these LEDs are actually even warmer at 2200k, candle light is 1500k.
Most residential LED bulbs are now around 2700k which is just a slightly more neutral incandescent.
this is on top of LEDs chewing six times fewer watts and lasting for like five years instead of one year
Then why do LED's cause so much visual fatigue for so many people? You can quote all the specs you want but the bottom line is for a pleasant experience on the eyes....LED's just plain suck. What they ARE great at is illuminating snow! In that they are fabulous. Especially the 5000k or higher ones. For obvious reasons. We need to seriously work on softeners and diffusers for LED's so they can be used without giving us a headache. We all love the power savings. We just hate the actual light they produce. (Just a minor factor I'm sure.....)
I do like the incandescent because it’s does not hurt your eyes or make you struggle
Do the LED decorative bulbs have the 30Hz flicker like other LED's running on AC do?
+Sean Place 30 Hz? I would say 60Hz (half wave rectifier) or 120 Hz (full wave rectifier), and without good voltage smoothing.
+Misza Ah, that's right. It is 60hz in both directions.
LEDs can't run on AC. They have a bridge rectifier that converts the AC into pulsed DC. Nowadays some of the LED bulbs with bigger drivers have more capacitors to help minimize the flicker but most filament LEDs still struggle with pretty high flickering
What is the differende between ST-64 Filament Bulb or E27 /E26 LED bulb?
Is st-64 filament bulb same as edison incandescent bulb?
What do you think about smart Edison bulb
They are not nearly as nice to look at though...
+shomolya Ya this is true, maybe a few generations later, they will be thinner and dim nicer too.
+shomolya This is true as well. I think most LEDs have uneven output but they are getting better so lets see what happens over time :)
Just bought 30 of them, was instantly disappointed. They're incredibly yellow :(
shomolya I bought them mainly for decoration, less for actually giving off higher lumens. It was the glow I was after :/
Quality vs quantity. I prefer quality. And I mainly use 7 watt incandescents anyway so it's not like it's costing a lot.
The "decorative" filament LEDs give very poor quality light. Fine outdoors but not indoors if you care anything for light quality, colour rendering and cosy atmosphere. LED light is just gloomy.
I like this demonstrational comparison you put up here, also how you guys went about it, where could I buy the globe bulbs for vanity? I ask out of curiosity prior to where I can get said bulbs because I have a vanity that lights the bathroom in my house, said bathroom vanity right now has 4 incandescent 40 watt, G25 type bulbs, I plan to replace them when they burn out, too. so on one of my paychecks I hope to find a nearby store that sells the LED filament globes, after all I am the one of the house that changes the bulbs when they go dark. my apologies for such a long comment by the way.
Does this mean that Incandescent bulbs will wear out quickly?
I like Edison bulbs much more, but I'm afraid of the lifespan, is it possible that their lifespan is 10 times shorter?
And is the lifetime of the light bulb destroyed if a dimmer is used?
Don't ever believe the hype of LEDs lasting longer. It's a gimmick like anything else. I just moved into a new place with little chandeliers in the foyer and hallway with Edison looking LED lights and after about a week one started screwing up and blinking. I had thought that they were incandescent up till that point. So I immediately went out and bought the real deal and they work/look much better. Easier on the eyes. Another thing I noticed when removing the LED bulbs is that the base of them was getting hotter than the real bulbs and actually had somewhat melted the plastic sleeves around the base of the bulbs. The LED bulbs house the power chips and components in the base and while the lights themselves run cool, the base runs HOT! Something to keep in mind. Is burning down your house worth the energy savings? Yes, good question indeed.
There are some of those Edison style bulbs still burning after 80,90, even 100 years.....
Yea, but they have 2-3W. Drive an LED with 10% of their power and then compare...
Yeah, but are only being fed 10% or less of full power to get them to last like that. The Firehouse Centennial light bulb in CA is burning day and night and has been over a 100 years and is impressive. But its on a low voltage circuit and glowing dim. I can only imaging how long a good LED could burn for on a stable power supply... 300 years?
@@deanhite3078 "Yeah, but are only being fed 10% or less of full power to get them to last like that. " you need to reduce voltage by something like 35% to get 100 years out of normal light bulb, " The Firehouse Centennial light bulb in CA is burning day and night and has been over a 100 years and is impressive. " yea its not, just buy some crapy Russian light bulb in Russia and put in in USA handicaped 110V system(that is so handicaped thanks to Edison that didnt invent light bulb, he only invented this limit on light bulb life span, in this movie you have old bulbs before this "invention" was perfected, thats why its 3000 hours when any modern have avg life span of 1000h all over the world). The Firehouse Centennial bulb was propably from time when other higher voltage systems was used or the light bulb is from Europe or any other place where they using 200+ volts...
I will just say this because I want to..... incandescent light bulbs are better
Nice video
best video ever about this light.
I bought a few normal ones and a few leds. If I need nostalgia, I'll use the original ;)
Where to buy these?
Ironically the incandescent bulb in ur video looks better with a dimmer than the led!
@@alyankhan448 Incandescent dims to warm, while LED normally don't.
that's not irony dumb fuck.
Wish they could make old fashioned C7 multi and clear Christmas lights like this. The tinted light that comes out of LED Christmas lights is horrible and over powering. Wish they could make them with glass shell (not plastic) that is tinted to change a warm white LED bulb to the traditional colors we’ve had forever, not the harsh blues of LED’s that put your eyes out they’re so overpowering
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we especially making the filaments led lighting ,also deal in led external lighting fittings
Nice video bro, to the point and quick. Thanks
Seems to me (especially on the camera) that the color temperature of the LED version is very close to that of the incandescent. How's it to the eye? Is it enough warm white or it goes more to the neutral? How is the color rendering at least to the eye? Can you tell that it's an LED light or it seems like an incandescent.
+Origoangelohrol322
I bought a similar filament LED with very high CRI (90). It looked close enough to a decorative incandescent lamp for use outdoors.
But indoors it still looked and felt a bit "off" and not quite like the real thing - which is not surprising as it is a synthetic copy and that can never be quite like a natural light-source such as incandescent light or daylight.
It's like polyester compared with silk. May be practical and more durable but it can never have that same unique quality.
Exactly the same light? Nope! Light colour is just ONE of the parameters of light. Colour rendition is just as important or the colours of your room will look dull and grey. No synthetic light gives the same colour rendition and as natural incandescent light.
Save a lot? Half true. If the LEDs have poor power factor (and most do) it will use almost twice its rated watts in volt-amperes.
I use 7 watt incandescent bulbs as I prefer more quality to quantity.
Halogen is just an improved incandescent bulb. Halogen lamps are the most stable in light colour of all lamps. Standard incandescent lamps may get a bit weaker with age (thus slightly warmer) and sooty on the inside of the bulb, but the halogen gas recycles the soot particles back to the tungsten filament.
Like all natural light sources, the colour temperature in incandescent and halogen incandescent lamps is dynamic, following the Planck curve = it gets whiter when it's brighter and more orange-red when it's dimmed down or low lumen, which is what is generally perceived as natural. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruithof_curve
Synthetic light, on the other hand, is composed of a mixture of phosphors which create a static light colour that only changes with age as the phosphors are used up at different rates. This is also why fluorescent, HID, and LED lamps may turn more blue or green with age while it also gets more dim - which is the opposite of what is perceived as natural. Dim light should always be more red, like a candle.
This also why you get so many inadvertently different ranges of colour even among CFL and LED lamps sold as "warm white". Because it's just a poor copy of the real thing and not easy to get the exact right mixture of phosphors for each lamp. Although it has gotten better lately. But will never be perfect because it is a composite chemical light and not a natural light source.
@@Nebunlina 😍🤗🤗🤗
why dont you calculate it at all. Lets say there are 35 Watts in difference. You got 10 bulbs and you let them on 8 hours a day. Its a 1000 kW a year you save! (around 300 $)
But they don't actually save that much.
Savings are calculated on best virtual scenario for the best and most expensive lamps on the market, used in optimal lab conditions, burning position etc where they don't overheat.
Poor power factor makes them save less. Cheap drivers can limit their life.
If you live in a cold climate zone the heat replacement effect eats up any savings (since it is the heat output that constitutes the ONLY difference between an incandescent bulb and a lower quality "energy saver").
And home lighting is still just a tiny fraction (≈3%) of a household's total energy consumption, so changing bulbs is one of the least effective things one can do at home. Making everyone believe they can make a real difference is just the result of an extremely well-coordinated and persistent PR campaign.
@@Nebunlina "And home lighting is still just a tiny fraction (≈3%)" because in USA all believe that USA=world... :D
I need a low Lumen LED Vintage looking bulb for my bankers lamp to replace my incandescent one. But can't find one anywhere. The Lumens should be 200-250 preferrably.
The incandescent bulb , shape as above , ( dimmed to ⅓ .... 80 Volts for a 240 Volt bulb ) makes a superb night light , giving the authentic pleasing orange glow of an old valve radio ( ! ) .... LED bulbs are superbly efficient , but when dimmed the output colour does NOT change , they just get dim ....also reducing the voltage to ⅓ makes the Tungsten filament lamp last many , many decades ( tried - n - tested )..... DAVE™ ......................
I have one its cool looking cause i never saw a real edison bulb but the led serves its purpose im gonna use it for a while
Love this now i have to install a dimmer on everything im so tired of being blinded to death by LEDs
Can I use it for dimmer Lamps?
Is there a device that I can screw in the E27 and then a light bulb the device has a dimmer. Does something like this exist?
LEDs, when dimmed, flicker in a square wave that damages eye tissue and strains eye muscles and stresses brain (requires more computational capacity to decipher a flickering image.). Add to that LEDs lack many of the "nutritionally required" colors and lacks healing infra red... Just a bad idea except to distract loiterers and make the parking lot an undesirable hang out spot. Incandescents provide full nutritional wavelength spectrum like a top quality multi.vitamin. LEDs are like white flour... Toxic
it is better than normal led but has nothing to do with incandescent light..
please I need u to reply me as soon as possible, how many kelvin were these lamps of?
No LED bulb gives that low light decorative orange glow. I have a book shelf of them. They are fine for bulbs inside a shade or cover though, but they will never replace those incandescent decorative bulbs. So much so, that I have bought at least $900 in decorative bulbs, just bought 3 more G200. Since the 3 Edison bulbs I have lasted 3 years so far and have never burnt out. I figure I have a life times supply. I only run these bulbs at around 25-30% power on a multiple smart dimmer cords. Might need a few more 8 inch T9's, might even buy 2 more G200 and a few more G125 but until they can make thin filament LED no way I will have those bare LED's. I have tried just about every brand of dimmable LED on the market, if only the functioned well at 20-30% power and had thinner LED filaments....... It's all about the steampunk pipe lamps.
And still it doens't look as cool as the Incandescent Edison bulb. The strings in the LED bulb are way too big.
+HackingDutchman Of course they are way too big, they are not even filaments or strings as you call them.
If we all died from global warming, there are no people to care. Incandescent takes too much power. Most people don't know /feel the difference. It's outlawed everywhere bro.
What's your major in school? If you are not a science major, talk to someone in science major in College.
manicniceguy China actually has the world's biggest green energy infrastructure and on schedule to built 100 nuclear power plants to move away from coal fire plants.
HackingDutchman Incandescent ones use tungsten filament with inert gases as nitrogen or argon. LEDs are totally different technology that is no way close to natural and not very safe either. Incandescents with tungsten filaments were the best choice I feel.
Why type of LED is that? COB? How is that possible? A string of LEDs?
Yes. There are tons of those really cheap _"die-on-board"_ blue LED's mounted onto thin, and about inch long PCB type substrate with a small silicone tubing with phosphor slipped over the board to convert some of that light to red-green.
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You would only get an Incandescent Edison bulb for decorative purposes. Efficiency comes 2nd.
Blowing my mind! Amazing
Probably expensive. Thats a lot of LED to fail too..... Has anyone in the history of LED Light Bulbs (not individual led's) "EVER" been able to get one to 30,000hours?!
LED's might last 30k hours but the micro ac to dc transformers that drive them never will.
JoeVSvolcano yeah, fuck the 30,000 hours nonsense. I'll be happy if they can last 10 years though!
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If you use those LED's for 8 hours per day and they have 30,000 hours life than you should end up with 10.27 years out of them.
You are lucky if you get 3 month out of incandescent bulbs and 1-2 years of screw-in fluorescent bulbs. So any thing that last longer is a plus.
+JoeVSvolcano
Here is an update.
One of my first LED's promised me 50,000 hours.
Then they went to 25,000 hours and 15,000 hours.
The newer LED's now have only 5,000 hours.
Well, I guess we end up with the same junk hours that incandescent bulbs provided.
The only thing that is different, that LED's are more expensive,
Ya, the only LED arrays I've ever had last are 12VDC replacement bulbs in my RV. When purchasing an AC Bulb type LED make sure it has a nice heavy heat sink on it too....
+Bonnie Flory Yeah you are completely right! If you calculate the price of the LED bulb compared to the price of the incandescent and the electricity consumed for a unity of time you'll end with a very similar cost per hour of light of the same intensity. Yeah you'll have a little lower price for the LED but at the cost of worse light in terms of color temperature and color rendering index. So that's why I'm using incandescent light bulbs everywhere in my home. I don't care about a 2-3$ a month spared from electricity for lighting.
LED light is bad for the eye's, and can effect sleeping patterns because of it's spectrum
Air itself can be made luminous with certain non-harmful scalar radiation, no bulbs.
I got pendant light need it
very nice
Didn't these lambs exists. They look cool!
Thank you! Found a nice offer so will buy a bunch of them! :D
The colour temperature of the light is too white. Manufactures of LED bulbs, please make them 2200K or lower. Stop with the 2700K and higher nonsense for these decorative bulbs.
savedfaves I will bring back the incandescent if there no longer being made.... there will also be the smallest incandescent... size less then a quarter
@@Scudmaster11 When do you plan on bringing them back? Do you have a website?
Yeah I'm pretty sick of the 2700k bullshit.
Vinny V years from now
The reason for that is the LEDs themselves are actually blue but they use a phosphor to convert the blue light to lower the color temperature. The issue is the lower the color temperature, the more phosphor you need and therefore the hotter and less efficient the light is
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We have some now Edison bulb, would you like to try, free on Amazon with review testing
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Filament high resistance,high melting point.
135 lumen / 40 watts = 3.375 lumens per watt
440 lumen / 3.7 watts = 118.919 lumens per watt
3.375:118.919 = 1:35
The LED bulb is putting out 35 times the light per watt! Enough said! This is how the future looks, people. Kids will just grow up on different, better stuff. They won't feel nostalgic toward low-tech bulbs the way you do. Let go of the past- you're only remembering it through the rose-colored glasses of someone who no longer has to deal with it the way it was anyway.
Poor Thomas Edison...a lousy 100 years plus with his invention! Actually, I think he would be thrilled with the LED technology...and would have probably come up with TONS of neat new inventions with them!
Edison didn't invent the lightbulb, he only improved and marketed it.
@@Nebunlina Nope, he didnt improve it, he got small army of something like 100 engineers(or more) that was working after hours for very little $ and they improved the light bulb for him, he propably only invented idea that they did to good job and thats why modern versions works only for 1000 hours when at the begining of mass production they were allready working for 1500 hours and in this video he is showing 3000 hours version...
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3.7W vs 40W
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Gentleman this is not available in India
But they don't look as cool as incandescent. Sorry.
you should try E14 candle light
it can't dimmable
This is stupid. You're comparing a Carbon Filament to a LED? You do realise Tungsten Filament Incandescents were 3x more efficient? A 100w Incandescent is equivalent to a 1000 lumen LED. Yes, that's still inefficient but not as bad.
Also, who the fuck cares about efficiency when people still drive V8s anyway.
They don't look as good and defeat the purpose of going old school...
Lots of hippies in the comments
And Trump-supporting boomers
If the point is to REPLICATE the old bulbs then the LED just doesn't cut it. There's no comparison between the two in terms of colour temperature. Americans waste so much of their food. Wonder why they'd worry so much about electricity when it's just a few bulbs for decoration.
"Wonder why they'd worry so much about electricity" they dont... thats why they are using 110V so they cane waste more electricity. :P
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