As a man, I understand nothing about women... I was married to the same one 62 years. R.I.P. Dollie. Just when I thought I had her figured out, she'd change. I still find women and Model A's terribly interesting. Well done Paul. I definately like the last bulbs best. They have that '30's look'. My Model A has sealed beams with chrome trim rings. I'd have to buy reflectors, lenses, and trim rings. For now, I'm leaving them alone. At least that's my plan for now! I need a woman's opinion.
These seem like the perfect blend of modern practicality and classic looks. I love how people are still out there putting the time and effort into making the Model A a driveable vehicle, even in the modern world! It's impressive just how well a vehicle designed nearly 100 years ago can be adapted to modern tech and in a practical way.
Thanks for another enlightening video (sorry I couldn't help myself). Good point on the forum culture. While I haven't been on any model A forums the same thing happens on pinball forums too 😎
Thank you, Ryne!! Tina found the rest of the macadamia chocolate things in the fridge the other day. She had put them in a ziplock bag and tossed them way in the back, recently rediscovered and we thought of you all over again.
A 3000k or “warm” light will always throw light out further than any LED/HID bulb. I’ve had all 3, and halogen or a warm LED will always win. The 6000k LED/HID lights soak into the dark blacktop and fail to THROW light out in front of you. They just illuminate the immediate area in front of the car. And if it rains, forget it. Wet blacktop will soak up LED/HID light and you won’t be able to see anything. Thanks Paul for filling us in on these! I do like them much better!
On the forums and Face Book groups we call those arrogant, pompous people " Model A Holes". Nice video. I wonder if they will fit in a '33 Model B headlight.
Good question. If you have a Model A bulb, try installing it in the '33. If it fits, then these probably will. If it doesn't then they won't. Check with the Early Ford V8 suppliers. There may be some LED bulbs available that will fit those original '33 sockets. As a last resort, you can buy from Joe's Antique Auto Parts some Vintique sockets that will fit a Model A bulb (B-13075-2) but you would have to modify your reflectors to install them. If you have original reflectors, you would not want to do that but you could obtain and modify aftermarket reflectors, which would save your originals and give you good reflection.
Thank You. I am going to call him to make sure I get these exact ones. You really did all Model A owners a huge service with your complete series on LED headlights.
I'm new to model A Ford. I just bought a 1930 model A 3 or 4 weeks ago I have been watching your video on TH-cam and have learned A lot about the model A. I'm so glad that I got to watch your video. I watched other video on TH-cam but seam to come back to your video they are down to earth and more my speed..
Excellent video Paul, thanks for sharing the news about the LED bulbs and all their advantages. About a month ago I was talking with Newton about a moto-meter and he mentioned that he had the 6000 and 3000 K LED bulbs available. I ordered a pair of each and am completely thrilled. Newton's a great guy and it's been a lot of help to me. You are also absolutely right about the small number of jerks on the model A sites. 9 5% of people are great others are not. Thanks again for all the information and keep doing what you're doing
Sold! I've been looking for some good warm white bulbs for a while. I ordered new cowl and tail light bulbs from Newton as well. I can't wait to get my dad's Fordor switched back to 6V+ and back on the road again. You videos have been a huge help. Thanks!
Yes Paul.. there is another side to this question. For many years I drove a Semi across Australia and although I had powerful big Bull Lights I seldom turned them on, mainly because if there were any animals in front, the bright lights would spot them and hold them (confused) and not knowing how to get out of the way. I used to drive with my weaker yellowish headlights and had no such problems... it's also easier on the eyes when driving long hours. Cheers mate. 🍻
I hate the new bright white headlights - these are a much more comfortable color with less distracting glare. The only thing stopping me from ordering a set right now is that then I'd have to try explaining to my wife why I suddenly really, really, seriously, dear, really need to buy a Model A. You'd be able to see THAT eye roll from low earth orbit.
Just by good luck I saw this video, as I am in the middle of redoing my headlights now. I ordered a bunch of stuff last Thursday, but held back on the bulbs, just because I did not like the bright blue glare. Today I ordered a pair! On another note, I would like to confess a mishap I had with my lens. I was so careful removing it and then cleaned it with Windex, but decided to rise it off in the sink with hot water, as soon as the hot water hit it, it cracked! Tough lesson to learn.
Remember when I asked you a few weeks ago what you thought of the difference between the warm and the cool bulbs? At that time I ordered the warm set. Glad I was right and you finally caught up. cheers!
Awesome bulbs! I just ordered a set, this is the exact build I was looking for. I totally agree with you, this color build just looks right in the Model A.
Great info on a subject most Model A’ers will be interested in viewing. I need to check these out but I’ve been running brighter lights for years and wouldn’t go back to the standard bulbs. Lecil
That's been my biggest complaints after I changed bulbs out in the Camry. That kinda bluish white light just doesn't do it for me. Everything you said about the slight yellow tinge makes all the difference.
The contrast between the beautiful sunset and the scary name of your County 😅... Also, the new lights look so much better! Who cares what the forum experts say? 😅
Paul, my car is not that old but it also benefited from me installing HID headlight modules. They do have a life span and the next set are going to be LED's. The HIDs were 6000K. I might think about reducing the color to 3000K after seeing this video. Thanks Dale
Great video as usual. Now how about the bulb that lights up the instrument panel and the dome light? Happy Easter Paul and Tina. Oh, tail and brake and turn signals too :-) I hope the 29 Fordor gets them too, my favorite car of yours. Have you ever considered a 32 Fordor V8? :-)
This is very interesting. I wonder if you can see more with these new bulbs because our eyes are accustomed to seeing in sunlight, which is yellow-ish and not blue white. Does the same hold true with household light bulbs? I wonder. 😊👍
You love the bulbs, but I love that you're NOT an "original" fan. LEDs, Overdrive, full set of gauges, new paint, better safer fan, oil coolers....YEA!! I live in Northern California, June - September 100 to 115 degrees nearly every day....Model A may need some cooling assistance. Hey we already have manual choke and spark advance, wonder if we can adjust the carburetor jet from the driver seat someday too, for us mountain folks.
Excellent. The harsh white of the other LED bulbs is not something I was looking forward too. It disrupts the natural look of the car at night, and completely washes out everything they shined on. The new pair are much better, both aesthetically and in practical use.
Thanks for the video Paul! I’m not quite to the electrical components in my restoration yet, but this will be one less decision I need to make! I’ll order some of these bulbs now! Looking forward to hearing options for turn signals. Considering an idea a few suggested in having my cowl lights as my front turn signals or do I put those small turn signals in between the bumpers (which seem cool and well hidden). I still need to add a second tail light, so considering rear tail light turn signals. So many options!! Have you done any videos about this by chance? Thank you!!
I recently bought a 1931 A. The cowl lites work only as turn signals and the two tail lites have double filement bulbs. No ugly overpriced added bumper truck side marker lites. Truck stops used to sell those mini-marker lites for a few dollars each.
@@modeladenny1218 Thanks for the input. Sounds like I can get away with the cowl lights as my front blinkers and tail lights for my rear blinkers. Thanks
@@kenrhoda2573 That's how my tudor is set up. For some reason, people don't recognize the cowl lights as blinkers. I went with the ugly add-on yellow lights on the front bumper for turn signals on my coupe, and people do recognize those as turn signals. I really hated to do that (I agree with you on their ugliness), but I was going for safety over looks on that car.
@@kenrhoda2573 There are fairly cheap cone shaped lites that used to come in red, amber, and white lenses. To me they make a more antque looking blinker than those modern LED rectangular ones. As Paul wrote, something at the front of the car will attract more attention.
Hello Paul, Unfortunately I am not a Model A owner but I found your headlight videos fascinating. I am currently working on a project to replace the sealed beam incandescent headlights in a replica speedster with1936 Ford Model A convex glass lenses, headlight ring, and a reflector with LED bulb. The Model A reflectors at 8 inch diameter is too wide, but I see the 1937-1939 reflector is about 7 inches and should work. Would the Newton Wells LED light work with this 7 inch reflector? Also, what type of socket is
Also, what type of socket is used for the LED bulb, and can I use an adapter to plug that socket into the standard sealed beam three prong socket? Again, great video and very informative!
Hi! and thank you! The stock bulbs and the Newton Wells bulbs have the same 2-terminals on the bottom and the bayonet nibs on the lower outside edge for the stock sockets. You need to switch everything to stock before using his LED bulbs.
I have to say, the only inarguable criteria of a restoration of any car should be those aspects that relate to safety. Who cares if an antique car has (bluish) LED lights, if it makes driving safer? Or installing modern lap and torso seatbelts? Or has _Aeroquip_ brake lines, or even has seats with lumbar and headrest support? No one seems to mind utilizing modern synthetic lubricants in them, or installing an overdrive so that it may be driven at highway speeds... I realize that this issue is mainly driven by a perception of retained value and/or “purity“ of preservation, but really, people... _safety!_ The durability and ubiquity of the _Model A_ attests to the presumption that “ordinary“ people have them _and_ (daily!) drive them. My above thesis is therefore especially pertinent to this very car.
Thank you, I have a T, I've tried to focus them with the lens on. I'm stupid never though to take the lens off to focus. I would be one to say you can't focus the headlights. Thanks again.
Paul - found this very interesting.... have you seen the other Logo Lights style? It's also 6000k but a different style entirely - "Bright White Focused Beam LED Headlight Bulbs for Antique Cars and Trucks". Wondering your thoughts if you have seen/tested them. Do you know where to find, WARM white LED tail / park / cowl / dash / dome light bulb and/or Brake light bulb for Model A with 12V- system? In the process of converting to 12V- with alternator... Thanks
I know the lights you reviewed are 6/12/+/-... my question was about the other, typically 3cp, single contact bulbs (e.g. cowl, tail, dash lights) and the 2 filament brake light being available as LED 12V- (see them places as 6V+)
Paul, nicely done. Just put two sets in some of our cars, so won't be buying these right now. Forget the forums you have been using. Try Vintage Ford Forum instead. Mostly people who moved there from the forum with the grumpy (jerks) when they got tired of the fighting and bullying.
Thanks Kevin. I have popped in on the VFF a time or two. I responded with additional explanation to some criticism of methods used in a video there and it just kinda went nowhere.
Hi Spenser. I just put some heat shrink tubing around the ends before slipping into the holders and sockets. Then hit them with heat again and they form in place. Best of luck!
Paul, I have a wonderful 30 Tudor. However, the previous owner converted the headlights to the seal beam bulbs. I want to change everything back to stock, then use LED bulbs. I just can't seem to find a list of what I need. Single bulb, two bulb?? The mechanics handbook doesn't really say. I think two bulb, but I don't know. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.Internet hasn't helped much. Thank you for the videos! Love them!
If you have the wires in your harness for the parking lights (that extra bulb that hangs from the top in headlight buckets) then get headlights with the parking bulb. If not, then just get regular headlights. You can buy the headlights as a complete assembly from most of the Model A parts suppliers. Then, after you install them, just unplug the glass bulbs and plug in some LEDs if you want them. Save the glass bulbs as a backup. Thank you!
@@ModelA The wire harness was changed to the SEAL connection, so I don't know what was original. A new set of headlights is about $340. Trying to put the pieces together I'm at about$160. I 'm not trying to be cheap, but why waste the headlight buckets I have? I saw in a forum that its two bulbs if you don't have cowl lights? I guess the big part is that I thought with a 91 year old car, I couldn't possibly be the first guy trying to rebuild old headlights that were converted and butchered.
No, you're not the first guy. There are diagrams of all the parts and where they go in a couple of the catalogs. I think the Bert's catalog is one of them. That will guide you what you need and where it goes. I can't describe it in a comment. If you have never done it before, you need the picture.
Just saw your cartoon on buying another ham radio.I hurt myself laughing. Yes I will let you know when I get my standard fordor. I bet the Mrs. colaberated on that.
@@ModelA I also collect old radios. I have a console radio from the late 30's and several of the record players made in the fiftys to the mid 70's. The sound of records on them is unmatched. I have a vast selection of 30's to 40's big band stuff.
@@ModelA I used to play along with big band CD's at weddings and catered partys,when it was fashonable in the early ninetys. I played clarinet and did many Benny Goodman and Artie Shaw selections. Pretty difficult stuff. I used the redigitized CD's because I can tune to them at A442. You can't play with records because they play flat and the record speed is not consistent. The CD's are perfect and sound as if it was live back in the day. Amazing
Great video on LED head lights. I noticed while driving at night that the cars head lights behind me are reflecting off the inside of the A’s flat windshield. Making it look confusing. Is there anything I can do about this? Hoping I made this clear. Robert in Mi.
I know this has nothing to do with this video but I’m having a little trouble with some thing so I know you’re a model A ford guy And so am I but. I also have another car which is a 1930 Dodge and I cannot find any place or catalogs for parts. so i was wondering if you knew any catalogs for vintage Dodge cars?
@@ModelA haha! I went ahead and bit the bullet and ordered 2 from eBay. Good thing, I think I got the last 2 he had on the site (for now)! Get them next week and can't wait! Thanks for sharing! I'll let you know how it goes.
Mr. Paul lm having problem with my light switch, l got a new one, so l can't make the switch buttom work when l try to on the light is hard to turn and later burn my fuse, please a need you help
Sounds like you got one of the poorly made repro switch bodies. Call up Steve over at Bert's and tell him I sent you and that you need one of the originals or one of the properly made repro ones.
@@ModelA Talked to him; didn't mention why but he said the warm LEDs cost $10 more to manufacture than the cool ones. He's going to discontinue those since Logolites are still selling for $29.99.
Did you notice the right side headlight appeared to be flickering until you removed the left side bulb. I have heard of LED headlights flickering before. I wonder why this is? I really like the new LED bulbs. Right now I have Ron Francis Super Bright 125/75 cp bulbs that are pretty bright. When these burn out I plan on investing in some of these new LEDs. I'm always curious, what is on the other side of the end of the cul-de-sac?
Thanks Dennis. They weren't flickering in real life, they just looked that way on camera. Other side of that canyon is another small hill where some goats live.
@@ModelA I find it odd that it was flickering in your video until you unplugged the other bulb?? Every time you pull up to the end of the road I wonder what would happen if you didn't stop?
@@Dennis-lx9mo I think the flickering has to do with the iphone camera trying to find the right light balance or something. When I unplugged the other bulb, there was less light and the camera found its balance perhaps? If I kept going at the end of the road, it would be a wild ride to a huge puddle at the bottom!
Flickering is caused when light matches the video intake frequency. In the old black and white TV days it was really bad for the video taken. It looked like waves of lines.
Yes but he also had to find the company in China. Design the LED for the company in China. And negotiate a price and pay for shipping... Making a good profit! Ahhh the American way! Go USA! :-)
Sorry Paul, I am one that your referring to at the end of your video and my constituents on the VFF & Ford barn, we have spent countless hours testing these bulbs... Spin it any way you want,, You cannot focus them and you did not or aim them at all. I will put my 6 volt against these any time,. They are NOT right for the model a ford. OH and all the pages and pages on the VFF, Ford barn and facebook sold the bulbs out....sorry to inform you. You have shown no factual information to prove they can be focused properly or aimed the ford way...Good Luck Paul...
Mark, You are repeating info from a web forum posted by a man who tested LED headlight bulbs a few years ago. Those LED bulbs would produce the results I read in his lengthy report. These LED headlights are shorter than the ones he tested and use different LED chips on a flatter chassis, more closely positioning them where a filament would be in an incandescent bulb. Unless you have tested THESE bulbs, your argument is without basis. I have personally tested these bulbs, shown in video for proof. I also focused the LED headlight bulbs in the first video in great detail, showing the projected light image getting smaller and larger as I turn the focus adjustment, finally stopping when the light pattern was focused. I did all that on video. Yet, you just stand their with your arms folded saying "nope". Clearly, if you cannot be convinced by video evidence, then there is no way I can convince you. Keep in mind, I don't care if you believe me or not, but I do care when you come into the comments on my video with your crossed arms and refusal to even consider video evidence. I don't visit the web forums anymore because I got tried of people giving incorrect or outdated information, and then when asking for proof, only supplying a response similar to "because I said so" as their proof. I am offering video evidence of my findings, you are offering "because another forum guy said so" as yours. Checkmate.
Paul I found your content illuminating you do a brilliant job.
Paul made a dull morning a bit brighter .
I'm glad everyone is reflecting on these lights
I'm going to spotlight this comment by pinning it. Hopefully, the comments will remain focused and on subject.
As a woman, I understand nothing about cars..That being said, my husband and I find this channel so terribly, terribly interesting. Really well done!
As a man, I understand nothing about women... I was married to the same one 62 years. R.I.P. Dollie.
Just when I thought I had her figured out, she'd change.
I still find women and Model A's terribly interesting.
Well done Paul. I definately like the last bulbs best. They have that '30's look'.
My Model A has sealed beams with chrome trim rings. I'd have to buy reflectors, lenses, and trim rings. For now, I'm leaving them alone. At least that's my plan for now!
I need a woman's opinion.
Thank you very much! I am honored that you are here.
Those type of people are in every car group around. Great video!
I really like the incandescent look, it just seems to look right.
Yes!
Hallo Paul,
I enjoy watching your Videos very much.
I‘ve had my Model A for over 55 years now.
Greetings from Germany
Greetings and thank you, Rolf!
These seem like the perfect blend of modern practicality and classic looks. I love how people are still out there putting the time and effort into making the Model A a driveable vehicle, even in the modern world! It's impressive just how well a vehicle designed nearly 100 years ago can be adapted to modern tech and in a practical way.
I totally agree.
Another fine video! Have a blessed Easter. He is risen!
He is risen! Thank you, Bill.
As a Zoomer I enjoy these so much. Keep doing what you're doing.
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for another enlightening video (sorry I couldn't help myself). Good point on the forum culture. While I haven't been on any model A forums the same thing happens on pinball forums too 😎
Good pun! Hahaa!
I’m going to order a set for my 1934 Ford Tudor.
I can’t wait for you to upload a new video. I just love them!
Thank you, Ryne!! Tina found the rest of the macadamia chocolate things in the fridge the other day. She had put them in a ziplock bag and tossed them way in the back, recently rediscovered and we thought of you all over again.
A 3000k or “warm” light will always throw light out further than any LED/HID bulb. I’ve had all 3, and halogen or a warm LED will always win. The 6000k LED/HID lights soak into the dark blacktop and fail to THROW light out in front of you. They just illuminate the immediate area in front of the car. And if it rains, forget it. Wet blacktop will soak up LED/HID light and you won’t be able to see anything. Thanks Paul for filling us in on these! I do like them much better!
Thank you Jordan!
On the forums and Face Book groups we call those arrogant, pompous people " Model A Holes". Nice video. I wonder if they will fit in a '33 Model B headlight.
Good question. If you have a Model A bulb, try installing it in the '33. If it fits, then these probably will. If it doesn't then they won't. Check with the Early Ford V8 suppliers. There may be some LED bulbs available that will fit those original '33 sockets. As a last resort, you can buy from Joe's Antique Auto Parts some Vintique sockets that will fit a Model A bulb (B-13075-2) but you would have to modify your reflectors to install them. If you have original reflectors, you would not want to do that but you could obtain and modify aftermarket reflectors, which would save your originals and give you good reflection.
@@peakdj Thanks for the info. I haven't got a Model A or a '33 yet. Plan on picking up a '33 pickup a week from today
Thank You. I am going to call him to make sure I get these exact ones. You really did all Model A owners a huge service with your complete series on LED headlights.
Thank you Ben! It also generated a lot of hateful emails...
I'm new to model A Ford. I just bought a 1930 model A 3 or 4 weeks ago I have been watching your video on TH-cam and have learned A lot about the model A. I'm so glad that I got to watch your video. I watched other video on TH-cam but seam to come back to your video they are down to earth and more my speed..
Thank you Charles! And congratulations. Do you have any pictures or video of your new Model A posted where you can share with all of us?
@@ModelA not at this time will be soon...
My staf son pitting up for me...
@@ModelA can people turn back the odometer on a 1930 Model A the car that I bought only has 28050 miles on it just curious.
@@charlesanderson473 Yes. Just turn it backwards. Or disassemble and set to whatever you want.
Excellent video Paul, thanks for sharing the news about the LED bulbs and all their advantages. About a month ago I was talking with Newton about a moto-meter and he mentioned that he had the 6000 and 3000 K LED bulbs available. I ordered a pair of each and am completely thrilled. Newton's a great guy and it's been a lot of help to me. You are also absolutely right about the small number of jerks on the model A sites. 9 5% of people are great others are not. Thanks again for all the information and keep doing what you're doing
Great follow up video to the others on replacing the headlights with LED. Thanks again!
I just got a set for the'29. They are great. Getting a second set for the '24. Thanks for the advice and thanks to Newton for the product.
Sold! I've been looking for some good warm white bulbs for a while. I ordered new cowl and tail light bulbs from Newton as well. I can't wait to get my dad's Fordor switched back to 6V+ and back on the road again. You videos have been a huge help. Thanks!
Thank you Patrick!
This is great, Paul! Thanks for the info! I appreciate your videos!
All I can say is keep standing up straight!! Love it. 👍👍
Every day that I'm vertical is a good day. Thanks, Robert!
Yes Paul.. there is another side to this question. For many years I drove a Semi across Australia and although I had powerful big Bull Lights I seldom turned them on, mainly because if there were any animals in front, the bright lights would spot them and hold them (confused) and not knowing how to get out of the way. I used to drive with my weaker yellowish headlights and had no such problems... it's also easier on the eyes when driving long hours. Cheers mate. 🍻
Thank you for the info, Yhen!
Hi Paul, I recently found your channel and just love it! I have been driving Model As for the past 40 years. You are a valuable resource! Thank you!
Thank you, Timothy!
Another well-done and informative video!
Thanks Rick
I hate the new bright white headlights - these are a much more comfortable color with less distracting glare. The only thing stopping me from ordering a set right now is that then I'd have to try explaining to my wife why I suddenly really, really, seriously, dear, really need to buy a Model A. You'd be able to see THAT eye roll from low earth orbit.
Just by good luck I saw this video, as I am in the middle of redoing my headlights now. I ordered a bunch of stuff last Thursday, but held back on the bulbs, just because I did not like the bright blue glare. Today I ordered a pair! On another note, I would like to confess a mishap I had with my lens. I was so careful removing it and then cleaned it with Windex, but decided to rise it off in the sink with hot water, as soon as the hot water hit it, it cracked! Tough lesson to learn.
OUCH!! How cold was it outside? The hot water must have been one heck of a shock.
Remember when I asked you a few weeks ago what you thought of the difference between the warm and the cool bulbs? At that time I ordered the warm set. Glad I was right and you finally caught up. cheers!
Thanks!
It's so refreshing to listen to a video from someone that doesn't bull💩 to make money. As always THANKS Paul. 🚗🚗🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks, Richard
Looks like I'll be converting to these in the near future! Thanks Paul, great stuff!
Thanks, Paul.
Awesome bulbs! I just ordered a set, this is the exact build I was looking for. I totally agree with you, this color build just looks right in the Model A.
Thanks, John!
Great info on a subject most Model A’ers will be interested in viewing. I need to check these out but I’ve been running brighter lights for years and wouldn’t go back to the standard bulbs.
Lecil
Thank you, Lecil
Love your videos. Really helpful. Looking to get my first A here soon.
Thank you Paul. Another informative video. I just got a set of Logos so I may wait a while to try the Newton’s.
I really like the LogoLites ones also. You almost cannot go wrong there!
That's been my biggest complaints after I changed bulbs out in the Camry. That kinda bluish white light just doesn't do it for me. Everything you said about the slight yellow tinge makes all the difference.
Thanks! I just ordered two!
Please be sure to report back and let us all know what you think of them (good or bad).
The contrast between the beautiful sunset and the scary name of your County 😅... Also, the new lights look so much better! Who cares what the forum experts say? 😅
Excellent point
Great video, Paul. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
you brightened my day (night) great job.....
Paul excellent video !!
Love the bulb update
Glad you enjoyed it, Eugene!
Paul, my car is not that old but it also benefited from me installing HID headlight modules. They do have a life span and the next set are going to be LED's. The HIDs were 6000K. I might think about reducing the color to 3000K after seeing this video. Thanks Dale
The color (wavelength) made a big difference in what I could see at night. Not necessarily how far, but mainly how much.
I watched your daily driving a model A and I the immediately after, look to buy one.
Excellent! Go for it, John!
Great video as usual. Now how about the bulb that lights up the instrument panel and the dome light? Happy Easter Paul and Tina. Oh, tail and brake and turn signals too :-) I hope the 29 Fordor gets them too, my favorite car of yours. Have you ever considered a 32 Fordor V8? :-)
I would love to have a 32 with V8. But I am not a wealthy man, and I do not borrow money.
I'm the idiot. I missed this video! Thanks Paul.
Warm white led make me happy
This is very interesting. I wonder if you can see more with these new bulbs because our eyes are accustomed to seeing in sunlight, which is yellow-ish and not blue white. Does the same hold true with household light bulbs? I wonder. 😊👍
I think you're right, Pauline. The yellower light just seems to bounce off things and back to my eyes much better.
Just what I needed 1000 thanks ordering LED for my truck 👍👏🛻
Wow, these are amazing!
You love the bulbs, but I love that you're NOT an "original" fan. LEDs, Overdrive, full set of gauges, new paint, better safer fan, oil coolers....YEA!! I live in Northern California, June - September 100 to 115 degrees nearly every day....Model A may need some cooling assistance. Hey we already have manual choke and spark advance, wonder if we can adjust the carburetor jet from the driver seat someday too, for us mountain folks.
Greetings from Calaveras County!
Paul, I don't even have a Model A and I want those headlights. Maybe I should get a Model A to go with them?
Hahaa!!
Love your videos
Thank you, Kenneth!
Learning so much!!!!
Excellent. The harsh white of the other LED bulbs is not something I was looking forward too. It disrupts the natural look of the car at night, and completely washes out everything they shined on.
The new pair are much better, both aesthetically and in practical use.
Thanks for the video Paul! I’m not quite to the electrical components in my restoration yet, but this will be one less decision I need to make! I’ll order some of these bulbs now!
Looking forward to hearing options for turn signals. Considering an idea a few suggested in having my cowl lights as my front turn signals or do I put those small turn signals in between the bumpers (which seem cool and well hidden). I still need to add a second tail light, so considering rear tail light turn signals. So many options!! Have you done any videos about this by chance? Thank you!!
I recently bought a 1931 A. The cowl lites work only as turn signals and the two tail lites have double filement bulbs. No ugly overpriced added bumper truck side marker lites.
Truck stops used to sell those mini-marker lites for a few dollars each.
@@modeladenny1218 Thanks for the input. Sounds like I can get away with the cowl lights as my front blinkers and tail lights for my rear blinkers. Thanks
@@kenrhoda2573 That's how my tudor is set up. For some reason, people don't recognize the cowl lights as blinkers. I went with the ugly add-on yellow lights on the front bumper for turn signals on my coupe, and people do recognize those as turn signals. I really hated to do that (I agree with you on their ugliness), but I was going for safety over looks on that car.
@@kenrhoda2573 There are fairly cheap cone shaped lites that used to come in red, amber, and white lenses. To me they make a more antque looking blinker than those modern LED rectangular ones.
As Paul wrote, something at the front of the car will attract more attention.
Hello Paul,
Unfortunately I am not a Model A owner but I found your headlight videos fascinating. I am currently working on a project to replace the sealed beam incandescent headlights in a replica speedster with1936 Ford Model A convex glass lenses, headlight ring, and a reflector with LED bulb. The Model A reflectors at 8 inch diameter is too wide, but I see the 1937-1939 reflector is about 7 inches and should work. Would the Newton Wells LED light work with this 7 inch reflector? Also, what type of socket is
Also, what type of socket is used for the LED bulb, and can I use an adapter to plug that socket into the standard sealed beam three prong socket?
Again, great video and very informative!
Hi! and thank you! The stock bulbs and the Newton Wells bulbs have the same 2-terminals on the bottom and the bayonet nibs on the lower outside edge for the stock sockets. You need to switch everything to stock before using his LED bulbs.
Paul, Is this car 6 or 12v? Guess I should know. Thanks for the great content.
6 volt, positive ground. Thanks!
I think the yellowish leds are far superior than the white variant! They don't seem nearly as blinding as the white lights
Agreed
Thanks for finding a normal looking alternative!
You bet!
I have to say, the only inarguable criteria of a restoration of any car should be those aspects that relate to safety.
Who cares if an antique car has (bluish) LED lights, if it makes driving safer? Or installing modern lap and torso seatbelts? Or has _Aeroquip_ brake lines, or even has seats with lumbar and headrest support?
No one seems to mind utilizing modern synthetic lubricants in them, or installing an overdrive so that it may be driven at highway speeds...
I realize that this issue is mainly driven by a perception of retained value and/or “purity“ of preservation, but really, people... _safety!_
The durability and ubiquity of the _Model A_ attests to the presumption that “ordinary“ people have them _and_ (daily!) drive them. My above thesis is therefore especially pertinent to this very car.
Where bought those modern light, l would light have those for my model A thank you for your information Mr Paul shim
The link is in the description. Thanks!
Thanks again
Thank you, I have a T, I've tried to focus them with the lens on. I'm stupid never though to take the lens off to focus. I would be one to say you can't focus the headlights. Thanks again.
So, let us know how you do focusing your Model T headlights using my method, please.
Great video, I am sold on the new LEDs. Can you straighten a slightly bent model A crankshaft?
I cannot. I'm not sure if a machine shop could either.
Paul - found this very interesting.... have you seen the other Logo Lights style? It's also 6000k but a different style entirely - "Bright White Focused Beam LED Headlight Bulbs for Antique Cars and Trucks". Wondering your thoughts if you have seen/tested them.
Do you know where to find, WARM white LED tail / park / cowl / dash / dome light bulb and/or Brake light bulb for Model A with 12V- system? In the process of converting to 12V- with alternator...
Thanks
These lights will work with 6 or 12 volts. No worries!
Yes, I have seen the new focused LEDs. Haven't played with them yet. Soon, I hope.
I know the lights you reviewed are 6/12/+/-... my question was about the other, typically 3cp, single contact bulbs (e.g. cowl, tail, dash lights) and the 2 filament brake light being available as LED 12V- (see them places as 6V+)
Paul, nicely done. Just put two sets in some of our cars, so won't be buying these right now. Forget the forums you have been using. Try Vintage Ford Forum instead. Mostly people who moved there from the forum with the grumpy (jerks) when they got tired of the fighting and bullying.
Thanks Kevin. I have popped in on the VFF a time or two. I responded with additional explanation to some criticism of methods used in a video there and it just kinda went nowhere.
Paul do you have a video or know of someone who has a video of modifying the sockets from shorting out? Thanks in advance and great content!
Hi Spenser. I just put some heat shrink tubing around the ends before slipping into the holders and sockets. Then hit them with heat again and they form in place. Best of luck!
@@ModelA thank you Paul!
Paul, I have a wonderful 30 Tudor. However, the previous owner converted the headlights to the seal beam bulbs. I want to change everything back to stock, then use LED bulbs. I just can't seem to find a list of what I need. Single bulb, two bulb?? The mechanics handbook doesn't really say. I think two bulb, but I don't know. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.Internet hasn't helped much. Thank you for the videos! Love them!
If you have the wires in your harness for the parking lights (that extra bulb that hangs from the top in headlight buckets) then get headlights with the parking bulb. If not, then just get regular headlights. You can buy the headlights as a complete assembly from most of the Model A parts suppliers. Then, after you install them, just unplug the glass bulbs and plug in some LEDs if you want them. Save the glass bulbs as a backup. Thank you!
@@ModelA The wire harness was changed to the SEAL connection, so I don't know what was original. A new set of headlights is about $340. Trying to put the pieces together I'm at about$160. I 'm not trying to be cheap, but why waste the headlight buckets I have? I saw in a forum that its two bulbs if you don't have cowl lights? I guess the big part is that I thought with a 91 year old car, I couldn't possibly be the first guy trying to rebuild old headlights that were converted and butchered.
No, you're not the first guy. There are diagrams of all the parts and where they go in a couple of the catalogs. I think the Bert's catalog is one of them. That will guide you what you need and where it goes. I can't describe it in a comment. If you have never done it before, you need the picture.
@@ModelA Thanks Paul! Love your videos! You really do a great job. Can you do a video about shocks?
Just saw your cartoon on buying another ham radio.I hurt myself laughing. Yes I will let you know when I get my standard fordor. I bet the Mrs. colaberated on that.
She didn't have anything to do with the cartoon. She thinks all the radio stuff is dumb. I love it.
@@ModelA I also collect old radios. I have a console radio from the late 30's and several of the record players made in the fiftys to the mid 70's. The sound of records on them is unmatched. I have a vast selection of 30's to 40's big band stuff.
@@bryanswenson1452 Excellent!! Big Band is my favorite music also.
@@ModelA I used to play along with big band CD's at weddings and catered partys,when it was fashonable in the early ninetys. I played clarinet and did many Benny Goodman and Artie Shaw selections. Pretty difficult stuff. I used the redigitized CD's because I can tune to them at A442. You can't play with records because they play flat and the record speed is not consistent. The CD's are perfect and sound as if it was live back in the day. Amazing
Great video on LED head lights.
I noticed while driving at night that the cars head lights behind me are reflecting off the inside of the A’s flat windshield. Making it look confusing.
Is there anything I can do about this?
Hoping I made this clear.
Robert in Mi.
Yes. Just prop the windshield out like you do in the summer.
The yellow spectrum lights up better than the blue spectrum
Yes!
I know this has nothing to do with this video but I’m having a little trouble with some thing so I know you’re a model A ford guy And so am I but. I also have another car which is a 1930 Dodge and I cannot find any place or catalogs for parts. so i was wondering if you knew any catalogs for vintage Dodge cars?
Sorry, Graham, I don't know of any. I'm sure some of the more knowledgeable guys here will chime in and offer help.
I really like the looks of the new bulb in your video.... But.... 42 bucks each! Ouch! Oh well, stimulus money, I guess!
Can't take it with you, Kevin!
@@ModelA haha! I went ahead and bit the bullet and ordered 2 from eBay. Good thing, I think I got the last 2 he had on the site (for now)! Get them next week and can't wait! Thanks for sharing! I'll let you know how it goes.
@@kdog622 Please report back here and let us all know.
Got my new bulbs today. Not even night yet and I'm liking them....a lot! Can't wait for an evening drive tonight!
@@kdog622 Awesome!!! Curious how your drive goes tonight.
Mr. Paul lm having problem with my light switch, l got a new one, so l can't make the switch buttom work when l try to on the light is hard to turn and later burn my fuse, please a need you help
Sounds like you got one of the poorly made repro switch bodies. Call up Steve over at Bert's and tell him I sent you and that you need one of the originals or one of the properly made repro ones.
The new LED's have a better color rendition in my opinion, the green grass looks the right color.
Yes!
Is it possible to have the cowel lights illuminate with the headlights
You can wire them to come on with headlights
Paul or anyone, do you have a part number for 3000k LED bulbs?
Click the link in the description.
Paul, any info on LED tail/stop lights? Thx's
Same guy sells tail/brake LED plug-in replacements.
I ordered mine it said in the warm white there are 2 and 6 on the bright white.
I wonder why they're so much more expensive than the Logolites??
I don't know. Perhaps Newton will comment?
@@ModelA Talked to him; didn't mention why but he said the warm LEDs cost $10 more to manufacture than the cool ones. He's going to discontinue those since Logolites are still selling for $29.99.
@@ModelARickLasCruces Thank you, Rick! Great info.
The. newer LED bulbs are better, and provide a more authentic-looking light for the model A car.
Yes!
I guess the Newton’s LEDs don’t drain the battery like the original 6v bulbs
Nope. They draw very little
What’s the amp draw compared to stock bulbs?
I show it at the end
Did you notice the right side headlight appeared to be flickering until you removed the left side bulb. I have heard of LED headlights flickering before. I wonder why this is?
I really like the new LED bulbs.
Right now I have Ron Francis Super Bright 125/75 cp bulbs that are pretty bright. When these burn out I plan on investing in some of these new LEDs.
I'm always curious, what is on the other side of the end of the cul-de-sac?
Thanks Dennis. They weren't flickering in real life, they just looked that way on camera. Other side of that canyon is another small hill where some goats live.
@@ModelA I find it odd that it was flickering in your video until you unplugged the other bulb??
Every time you pull up to the end of the road I wonder what would happen if you didn't stop?
@@Dennis-lx9mo I think the flickering has to do with the iphone camera trying to find the right light balance or something. When I unplugged the other bulb, there was less light and the camera found its balance perhaps? If I kept going at the end of the road, it would be a wild ride to a huge puddle at the bottom!
Flickering is caused when light matches the video intake frequency. In the old black and white TV days it was really bad for the video taken. It looked like waves of lines.
$45 EACH! he is making good profit...LEDs are cheaper...and since no LEDs are made in America, he is probably getting them for $5 ea.
They are all probably in a container on the EverGiven or one of 100's other container ships running behind.
Yes but he also had to find the company in China. Design the LED for the company in China. And negotiate a price and pay for shipping... Making a good profit! Ahhh the American way! Go USA! :-)
I like the new one's alot better
6 volt
Sorry Paul, I am one that your referring to at the end of your video and my constituents on the VFF & Ford barn, we have spent countless hours testing these bulbs... Spin it any way you want,, You cannot focus them and you did not or aim them at all. I will put my 6 volt against these any time,. They are NOT right for the model a ford. OH and all the pages and pages on the VFF, Ford barn and facebook sold the bulbs out....sorry to inform you. You have shown no factual information to prove they can be focused properly or aimed the ford way...Good Luck Paul...
Mark, You are repeating info from a web forum posted by a man who tested LED headlight bulbs a few years ago. Those LED bulbs would produce the results I read in his lengthy report. These LED headlights are shorter than the ones he tested and use different LED chips on a flatter chassis, more closely positioning them where a filament would be in an incandescent bulb. Unless you have tested THESE bulbs, your argument is without basis. I have personally tested these bulbs, shown in video for proof. I also focused the LED headlight bulbs in the first video in great detail, showing the projected light image getting smaller and larger as I turn the focus adjustment, finally stopping when the light pattern was focused. I did all that on video. Yet, you just stand their with your arms folded saying "nope". Clearly, if you cannot be convinced by video evidence, then there is no way I can convince you. Keep in mind, I don't care if you believe me or not, but I do care when you come into the comments on my video with your crossed arms and refusal to even consider video evidence.
I don't visit the web forums anymore because I got tried of people giving incorrect or outdated information, and then when asking for proof, only supplying a response similar to "because I said so" as their proof. I am offering video evidence of my findings, you are offering "because another forum guy said so" as yours. Checkmate.
6000k light makes me angry
Don't pay attention to the "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity."
Ha ha! Thanks, Eric.