This capture card does something NO OTHER capture card does! MAGIC?! - Elgato 4K60 Pro MK2 Review

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  • @EposVox
    @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    ALSO the 1650 will work. Mistake on my part.
    POINT OF CLARIFICATION: You're not limited to 2 outputs for the video feed. In this tweet I have a screenshot showing it in 3 different apps at once! twitter.com/EposVox/status/1164272177690157056
    I hope you found the ending amusing. It wasn't quite as amusing to finish my edit and then check Twitter and see that..
    🎤 SPONSOR: ModMic Wireless - antlionaudio.com/?TH-cam&Eposvox&ModMic 🎤
    TIMECODES:
    00:00 Intro
    01:30 History & Context
    03:28 Review Disclosures
    03:52 Hardware
    05:51 Secret Trick
    07:16 Capture Specs
    11:17 Setting It Up
    14:05 Software
    20:05 Why 4K?
    21:26 HDR?!
    23:28 Playing HDR
    24:23 Editing HDR
    25:38 Retro Setups
    26:05 Other Options
    27:28 Conclusion

    • @AlcorSalvador
      @AlcorSalvador 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      floatplane plug, noice

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlcorSalvador Of course!

    • @ViniV82
      @ViniV82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro i have an i7 4770, 16GB ram, 525gb SSD crucial and RX580 4GB, obviously i can not stream good quality with this setup, so i wanted to buy an RX 5700 XT, but also i want to consider the elgato HD60 PRO to stream and record. Will i benefite with this setup from the HD60 PRO or is just a waste of money for me????

    • @jonathanrivera-jw6qh
      @jonathanrivera-jw6qh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EposVox so this product is pointless if I’m using it with my one and only pc?

    • @WestOfAsh
      @WestOfAsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a 5820k and 1080 in my backup PC. I notice you said intel 6th gen. I wasn't sure if this had to do with the encoding or differences in drivers or more a performance cut off recommendation? Would my HEDT intel chip work?

  • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
    @BudgetBuildsOfficial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Very interesting to hear how it stacks up for some older consoles. Cheers for the testing on that.

  • @CraftComputing
    @CraftComputing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    HAHAHA that ending. It's so much fun, finishing an edit, being very happy with your well-rounded opinion and decision on whether to recommend a device... all to have something invalidate it riiiiight before you hit render.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankfully it was just for a very savage jab. No need to do more work for now twitter.com/AVerMedia/status/1164195578026188800?s=19

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EposVox That's a pretty epic troll. Well played Aver...

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    2020: "Why 4K? Who needs 4K?"
    2008: "Why 720p? Who would ever need that?"
    Things change, mah dudes. Be on top of things and your videos will age like fine wine instead of milk.

    • @kbrodeur
      @kbrodeur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah because there aren't limitations of video and perception. properly shot and or converted 720p is still perfectly fine for most video. we do not need talking head videos at 4k. never did.

    • @notnullnotvoid
      @notnullnotvoid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, not even close. In 2008, most people already had monitors with higher-than-720p resolution. In 2021, 1080p is the dominant monitor resolution, and lower-than-1080p is more common than higher-than-1080p. In the steam hardware survey, which skews above the average, only about 2.5% of computers have 4K screens.

    • @Skrenja
      @Skrenja 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4k _is_ the upper limit though. 8k and above is just stupid.

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    what happens if you plug the GFX card HDMI into the input of the capture card? does that work or does it blow up ?

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s how dual pc works lol

    • @AFGuidesHD
      @AFGuidesHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EposVox I mean on the same PC, not a second dedicated one ;)

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You get worse performance and 0 benefits to use it in a single pc

    • @1738Creations
      @1738Creations 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'll answer that like the only professional, as usual with these garbage clickbait channels, as it's something I do with the HD60 Pro. It only does 1080 so I'm looking to upgrade. Unfortunately I ended up here.
      If you plug the GPU HDMI out in to it you'll get an infinitely better capture quality than OBS. I've tried every combination in OBS and the quality is always garbage. I smashed the HD60 up to 60mbps (max) writing to an M3 and the quality was perfect. I even watched it back on my 4k and it was clearer than 75mbps 4k capture in OBS. The Elgato PCI line is worth every penny.
      In terms of performance, there's almost no loss. When capturing the Elgato app uses about 350mb RAM. It's nothing. Barely any CPU power. If you turn off live playback and disable preview it will use 1% to 3% GPU resources. Actual GPU, it will use no GPU RAM. That's me running on an old, near bottom end, GTX 1060. So I can play a game on the same machine I'm capturing on and have near 0% system resource impact, unlike with OBS which uses a ton of resouces and the video still comes out garbage...

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What kind of hard drive would you use with this? If the file sizes are huge wouldn't this kill a dedicated SSD in a pretty short amount of time for an active youtuber ?

    • @marlonlyn2719
      @marlonlyn2719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, something that “May” work in your situation. AMD has an application called AMD Radeon RAMdisk. It can reserve a maximum of 64GB of memory. Unless you’re recording insane amounts video, you maybe be able to use that as scratch content.
      I use it all the time when I’m spinning up a temporary VM and don’t feel like on my SSD’s

    • @davidmalkowski7850
      @davidmalkowski7850 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can record 4K to an HDD as long as that HDD is purely for storage and isn't your OS drive. If anything, recording to RAID 0 HDDs is also a good idea for speed increases.

  • @Mart-E12
    @Mart-E12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't think I've seen a gameplay in such quality on youtube, damn

  • @jamespaull5888
    @jamespaull5888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wanted to say I'm using this capture card in a dual PC streaming setup and the specs listed are definitely NOT a hard requirement. My gaming PC has a GTX 2080ti, 32GB 3200mhz ram, and an i7 8700k CPU. My streaming PC however only has an i7 3770k, 16GB 2600mhz ram, and a GTX 1050ti graphics card. I'm able to Play games at 1080p, 240hz on my Alienware monitor with the amazing 240hz passthrough capability on this card, and I can stream and record easily at 1080p60hz with NVENC without it even causing a hiccup. I just want people to know that you DO NOT need a current gen system, or even the listed specs to actually use this card with great results. Elgato support told me directly that my system would not work, so I bought the card and tried it anyway and I'm very pleased I did.

    • @SirCrest
      @SirCrest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Requirements always have essentially some amount of headroom built in to them, and are meant to cover all different uses like capturing 4K 60fps directly in the 4K Capture Utility software, streaming different resolutions, and other activities on the computer.
      So yes some can use this card with a slightly older system, but I still would ask people not to pick one up unless they meet the listed requirements.
      Sometimes specs are not simply performance related but newer platforms have advantages, and not everyone has their system optimized for capturing or has a dedicated system. If they are capturing a console, they may have only one PC which is running other software they need at the time. Many more factors at play.

    • @jamespaull5888
      @jamespaull5888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SirCrest I understand your point. I just recall Elgato support stating that my system would be guaranteed insufficient for the specific use case I gave them and they were definitely wrong about that. I'm sure if I were streaming in 4k, or only had a single PC, my story would be different. I have tried streaming directly on my gaming PC and even that did not provide the Experience I was looking for.

  • @KeiraKATANA
    @KeiraKATANA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I did some testing with one of these cards on a single pc setup just out of interest. FYI @epxvox there is some benefit in a single pc. That is that when you use Game capture and tab out of a full screen game, the viewers see (depending on the game) either the game dropping down to low fps and looking terrible or some games when tabbing out show a frozen screen and viewers ask if the stream is frozen. Capture card shows same as Display capture, but Display capture can fail to work on some games, eg Division 2 where for some reason display capture gives me 40fps and game capture over 100fps in game. Anyway, here's my test results on a single pc, for curiosity...
    Stream testing results
    Game PUBG
    Resolution 1440p
    monitor Hz 165
    Gsync enabled
    1080p streaming - single pc
    ===================
    145 fps Game capture
    95-160 fps Display capture
    140-145 fps Elgato 4k capture card
    1440p streaming - single pc
    ===================
    145 fps Game capture
    60-70 fps Display capture
    130 fps Elgato 4k capture card

  • @ShahmeerAbbasOfficial
    @ShahmeerAbbasOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi can you help ? I have a Gaming PC and specs are :
    Core i9 9900k, GTX 2080 ti EXTREME, 32 GB RAM but still it's not enough to record 4k 60 fps gaming on OBS Classic, it takes too much space and it lags so if i use this capture card will it help ?

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Capture card will not help. Your system is powerful enough, you just need to optimize your settings

    • @ShahmeerAbbasOfficial
      @ShahmeerAbbasOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@EposVox Thanks for quick reply
      Can you tell me the settings of obs ? i've tried all settings from TH-cam tutorials, Some setting takes too much space like 20 minutes of 4k gameplay will take 100GB plus and when i use settings from different TH-cam video, the recorded gameplay video from obs drops the frame and it lags
      I want more than average 4k video quality that takes less space, takes more power of gpu instead of cpu ( less cpu intensive ), smooth gameplay with zero framedrops
      ( I'm using Logitech 4k webcam, BlueYeti Pro mic and recording gameplays with maxed out graphics with all these devices on OBS classic software )
      Just need to know what will be best from my pc.....

    • @GameChanger77
      @GameChanger77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShahmeerAbbasOfficial It will always take a ton of storage space because the higher resolution requires more space to store the data in.

    • @VoiVoiGaming
      @VoiVoiGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Goblin Slayer I have amd rx 6900 xt, and Ryzen 9 5950x and it sucks for recording. It's good if you record 5-6 minute video, after that the stutter is coming...

  • @FlockofAngels
    @FlockofAngels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Massive amount of great info here! Thanks for making this thorough review! 😊

  • @eliotrulez
    @eliotrulez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So, useless for Linux again.... How is the " Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro 4K" for Linux?

  • @tyisafk
    @tyisafk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh wow, the "secret trick" is actually pretty appealing! Currently I use OBS recording at a 1440p canvas and downscale to 720p to a much lower bitrate using the old NVENC encoder. It's surprisingly not bad, but unfortunately I'll have to pass due to no component 240p support, which I'm not gonna get my hopes up of Elgato ever adding this due to it being analog.

  • @DMNKLR_official
    @DMNKLR_official 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After seeing your section on requirements, I had to do some research, to which I found that this card does in fact work with AMD GPUs. It needs an RX Vega or better, and this info can not only be found on several etailer sites, but also on the Elgato FAQ section. This is good news for me, as my RX 5700 8GB will handle the workload flawlessly, alongside the rest of my PC's hardware. Btw, have you tested this card out, to see how well it works for capturing 4K video footage from a camera? That's the primary reason I want it, so that I can get the best quality video recording in OBS or other software, and won't be bothering with an X1 or PS4 as that part doesn't interest me.

    • @Wingnut353
      @Wingnut353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you tried it with an AMD card? The problem with AMD cards (being an AMD fan myself) is that the encoders are buggy and not very good quality. From what I remember the H265 encoder is pretty good... but useless for live streaming.

  • @Dr_Evil_Genius
    @Dr_Evil_Genius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone sees this, GeForce GTX 10XX is **NOT** the bottom requirement. I’ve seen it run on a GTX 970ti and I am currently running it flawlessly with a GTX 980ti.

  • @knottyworld7227
    @knottyworld7227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a single pc set up for me personally it’s actually worth it because it is the only way I can stream HDR in Streamlabs OBS with tone mapping not a fan of “Lut” or Shadowplay so the easiest way around it for me was the 4k60 Pro MK.2

    • @QuickandDirty
      @QuickandDirty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea, that was a big WTF when he said that. Of course it benefits a single PC setup, it takes all of the stream encoding off of the video card. LOL

  • @SeanNoonan
    @SeanNoonan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grabbed one of these recently. It runs just fine on an i7-4770k and a GTX 1080. I'm able to use passthrough with OBS but the Elgato 4K Capture Utility has a noticeable lag.
    Disclaimer: I bought this for future proofing. I've not bothered with 4K so far - I imagine my weak processor may struggle with 4K.

  • @Portal64
    @Portal64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got to the point where I'm capable of doing a dual pc set up for streaming but didn't want to sacrifice my high refresh rate for gaming, glad I found your video with the solutions!

  • @Mommyss
    @Mommyss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU FOR THE SECRET TRICK. Literally the deciding factor for myself since I can stream and record at the same time in 2 different qualities. Something I hadn't even known was possible ! Thank you

    • @Mommyss
      @Mommyss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I BOUGHT THE CARD : I bought and have been using the card for a little less than a week and actually works on my i5-7600k and 970 LOL (below required specs). I wouldn't have tried unless a Corsair rep responded saying it was possible on an Amazon review question. Sadly won't be able to utilize all of its features BUT was good to know as far as future proofing myself for when I do upgrade it. Thank you again for the help!

  • @jeremiahcollins_
    @jeremiahcollins_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a Ryzen 5 3600 with a 1660 super and I just want to capture the ps5 gameplay at 1080p60 once that comes out. I don’t want to deal with any delays like I had to endure with the first hd60. I really don’t see myself gaming even in 1440p within the next year or so. I’m pretty casual. So idk what to do lol

    • @kevOzilla
      @kevOzilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here best bet is to get hd60 s+ for console 4k is almost still useless esp for games like cod.

  • @mattyclad9185
    @mattyclad9185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    So three things would have to happen before I would consider this card or anything similar.
    1. Becoming a better content creator
    2. A beefier computer
    3. My isp raising my upload speed past 10 mbps.
    Once all three of those magically come together, then I will consider this card or similar product.
    Until such time, I am bound to 5 year old or so tech. 😜😂😝

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a journey!

  • @johnhern1948
    @johnhern1948 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this detail. I just bought a PS5 slim and also want to upgrade my Elgato HD60P card. Great timing for both products.

  • @FerretBomb
    @FerretBomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just as a mention, Magewell capture cards have been doing multi-application access for some time.
    I'd spoken with Elgato a while back, asked if the feature was possible, and argued the case for its inclusion in a more consumer price-point product. Really awesome that they got it in and working though; as mentioned in the video, it's excellent for recording 'clean' gameplay-only footage for later editing.
    As I don't have a 4K60 v2 to test, are you able to access the device at different resolutions+framerates simultaneously, as with Magewell cards?

  • @Debate_everything
    @Debate_everything 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I unfortunately won’t be buying another cap card until they support 4K 120 FPS or DP

    • @Steppinonshii
      @Steppinonshii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Saw this comment yesterday when I started looking for cards now I feel it 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @M3Croft
    @M3Croft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was looking for the correct answer why when Capturing HDR was so slow exactly how you shown on this video. Now I finally got it, I only use the capture card to record from my PS4 Pro, my computer is not that powerful, just a Ryzen 5 2400G with a Nvidia Geforce GTX1060 Super 6GB. Records fine in 4K but when tried HDR I thought would be my processor or graphic. You are awesome :D

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      :D

    • @M3Croft
      @M3Croft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EposVox you really are awesome man I mean it 😃. Your videos are so well made, top quality, top knowledge, so organised by sections, nice to listen. You should have much more than the triple of the subscribers. Happy New Year mate, all the best 😃

    • @ScreeToll
      @ScreeToll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey i have a question to you... I have a ryzen 5 2600 and a RX 580. So when (later) i record or stream my ps5 in 1080p60... is that possible? I want to game at 1080p120 with the passthrough output but i only want to record/stream 1080p60... so is my computer good enough, or do I need realy the specs that elgato given us, so minimum a Ryzen 7?! I hope u respond :D Thanks

  • @GEOSandro
    @GEOSandro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just bought 4k60 pro for $200 at Micro center. I told them Amazon had a 50% discount and they did a price swipe or something like that.

    • @DaK1ller
      @DaK1ller 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      GEO_Sandro like without showing proof?

    • @GEOSandro
      @GEOSandro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KingsmanXV you need to show them proof which I showed them the price on Amazon

  • @UTECHPIA
    @UTECHPIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely LOVE this video, it is one of the reason why I ended up buying the 4K60 Pro Mark II! Thanks EposVox
    !

  • @Checkmarkz
    @Checkmarkz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I saw your battle network magnet man figure and was like " I KNOW THAT GUY, I HAVE HIM TOO!" glad to see another fan!

  • @blackcatsnight1
    @blackcatsnight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My brother just bought me this omg he's so sweet I'ma cry now

  • @ultrasive
    @ultrasive 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly outputting to two different programs is such an amazing feature, I was about to consider buying a second LGHD 2, but I think taking to jump to 144hz capture is gonna be a nice upgrade as well. Now I just have to fork up the money.

  • @johnbuscher
    @johnbuscher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Eyyy, you did the timer bar thing that GN does on their news videos. Sick!

  • @DaveGamesVT
    @DaveGamesVT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Watching this 4k60 capture card review at 360p.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      :/ It's been HOURS

    • @DaveGamesVT
      @DaveGamesVT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol yeah, TH-cam is odd sometimes. I know that feel.

    • @Dirtyboxer1
      @Dirtyboxer1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least the content is good.

  • @MrAllinwonder
    @MrAllinwonder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanx for great review - lots of features and tech detail, clearly presented.

  • @MunchulaxProductions
    @MunchulaxProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Around 8:40 you mention the lower 4:2:0 color resolution of the 4K60 Pro in comparison the to AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K, do you know if the firmware and driver update Elgato released since then actually enables 4:4:4 video output or is it still emulated? This is important to me since I capture mainly PC GUI interfaces and not games, so visual fringing would be very noticeable to me and would be a reason I would choose the Live Gamer 4K over the 4K60 Pro.
    You also touched on how the Elgato stretched a 4:3 1024x768 resolution image to widescreen. I'm often capturing retro PC's at resolutions of 640x480, 720x400 (MS-DOS), 800x600, and 1024x768. Do you have any experience with either the Live Gamer 4K or 4K60 Pro at these lower resolutions, and would you recommend one over the other for someone capturing mostly PC output?

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the update enables full 444 and 422 now.
      Both cards are likely to stretch those resolutions, only option that won’t is Magewell - but you can apply the aspect ratio correction filter in OBS to put it back

    • @MunchulaxProductions
      @MunchulaxProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah okay, and thanks for the quick response. Besides those two, are there any other capture devices that support 4:4:4 color resolution that you know of, or any other devices you'd recommend for capturing PC output, even if they don't support 4:4:4?

  • @CrespoFTW
    @CrespoFTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got the 4K60 Pro Mk.2 and was wondering on the Xbox do you change the colour depth/space? if so what are the settings you are using?
    I been posting comparison between mk1 and mk2 on elgato reddit. But for some reason my captures became darker but with slightly better colours.

  • @boomgarden8826
    @boomgarden8826 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elgato Game Capture 4K60 Pro MK.2 supports RGB 4:4:4 Video Output
    :: The 4K60 Pro MK.2 received a firmware update which enabled the capability of outputting RGB 4:4:4 video in the RGB format to compatible programs. Driver: Version 1.1.0.190 or newer. Firmware: Version 19.08.08 (MCU: 19.10.07 / FPGA: 19.09.27) or newer

  • @Sebanisu
    @Sebanisu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't realize youtube was playing at 480p till i had trouble reading the text on the screen lol.

  • @TetraEzio
    @TetraEzio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i cant wait to have this capture card

  • @beachyblondieboo
    @beachyblondieboo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which should I buy the Elgato 4k60 Pro Mk.2 or Avermedia Live Gamer 4K?

  • @ppBizU
    @ppBizU 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! I've never found such a good UX of YT video! Super pro!

  • @epicnerdhype
    @epicnerdhype ปีที่แล้ว

    7:50 yoooo! this man just said MIXER! XD

  • @lukebrindle507
    @lukebrindle507 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, why wouldn’t the 1650 work with this? The 1650 has the Volta NVENC encoding chip on it, which I thought was better than the Pascal one? Great video btw, very informative. I was looking at the Avermedia 4K so that I can use my 144hz monitor with no issues but this has definitely made my life harder by giving me an option 😂

  • @rockks176
    @rockks176 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait. Still saving for this.

  • @thetremba
    @thetremba ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there! I just got this card, but for some reason gameplay recorded in 4K Capture Utility is shorter than it's recorded in OBS. Separate game and voice audio tracks are fine and can be synced to my stream/facecam recordings from OBS, but the video gets more out of sync the longer gameplay is. Tried it without the obs - the problem stays the same. After 1:19:27 of playing game I get the same length for separate audio files and 1:19:14 for the video file. And if you sync it in the beginning - it gets desynced randomly throughout the footage

  • @pvbuerkner
    @pvbuerkner 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magewell and YUAN can output to multiple programs aswell

  • @laloajuria4678
    @laloajuria4678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i watched this whole thing....with no plans to use any of this!

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me with most videos I watch

  • @xXDarkzuluXx
    @xXDarkzuluXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So i think the best way for pc gamers without older konsoles is the expensive way.So the magewell is the high end with the higest resolution and refreshrates. Thank you for the video ! 😁👌

  • @Bifuteki
    @Bifuteki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But the Magewell Pro Capture line allows you to use the card in a bunch of programs, not just 2.

  • @mjmbk
    @mjmbk 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Epos, well done 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @XadaX
    @XadaX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the review! Looks like I am going to record some Beat Saber gameplay with this one soon. :)

  • @fictionalgaming912
    @fictionalgaming912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooooo if you just pass through the a 3440x1440 video from gaming PC and stream it at downscale of 1920x1080 - having a 9 series GPU should work just fine. System requirements comes off as a more of a console streaming not dual PC setup where you are not using their personal software. Pass through of video means you are just moving the video to OBS or streaming software, your GPU should not be taking any sort of input with it. I think that needs to be clearer in the video, if you are using the NVEC or GPU encoders then of course get the system requirements because if the CPU is the only thing doing any encoding of video then the GPU is simply there to give you a monitor to look at - not encode - and send video upward.
    If this is wrong let me know because I do not use the OUT on my elgato right now. My GPU is simply hooked up to a monitor so I can configure OBS and stream it and there are zero issues with that and having a 4k60pro where i am only sending a 1440p @ 100hz signal and downscaling to 1080 @ 60hz signal (60 FPS with vsync) should not change the hardware requirements.
    Again chime in if you believe me to be wrong, but explanation of how to use a capture card is something that is extremely hard to find clear and concise. Someone looks at system requirements with a 12core CPU & 980 ti and go..."Shit i need to upgrade in order to use this capture card, that does not make sense. I am not using my GPU with this thing the GPU is giving monitor display functionality."

  • @Broth3rz
    @Broth3rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No matter what settings or bitrate I try to use on YT or Twitch, my stream looks like trash. I thought this might help but your saying it won't. I don't know what to do as I can't stream because of this. Note I guess wanna stream my desktop with my MIC. That's all.

  • @3therspark63
    @3therspark63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was wondering about streaming 21:9 3440x1440p at 75hz, if this card could support all of it. Somebody send this man a Ultrawide! hahha.

  • @Wavys
    @Wavys 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm getting screen tearing in Streamlabs OBS, 4K Capture Utility, etc.. on my streaming PC. Whether I'm recording or streaming, it is VERY noticable. The Elgato is cloned with my 1080p 144Hz monitor on my gaming PC, everything looks good on that front. The Elgato is also set to 1080p 144Hz, and the source input in 4K Capture Utility registers as 1080p 144Hz properly. Only thing wrong is my recordings, or my live gameplay, has bad screen tearing. Any ideas?
    Streaming PC Specs:
    - i7 7700k
    - EVGA GeForce GTX 1050ti
    - 16 GB RAM
    - EVGA 650W PSU
    - MSI Z270 Plus mobo

    • @AleexTg
      @AleexTg 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know this is a long shot but did you ever fix this?

    • @Wavys
      @Wavys 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AleexTg I had to compromise with enabling "fast" VSYNC in Nvidia Control Panel. That got rid of it. At the cost of, ya know, VSYNC.

  • @HRBSFrank
    @HRBSFrank 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epos, Why would you select "Color Range": Partial opposed to Full? Just Curious and thanks in advance :)

  • @GunzyHD
    @GunzyHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you eliminate audio lag when using this? I have my Series X plugged into this, yet no matter what I find, the only "low lag" option is listening through obs monitoring. The audio extractors ive found wont allow 1080p120fps pass through either. HELP!

  • @AnimosityX
    @AnimosityX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got my answer. Good video bud. Saved me some money.. Jesus, a company really needs to figure this out for a single pc unit so we do not need to worry about all this dual pc crap anymore..I must say the 12900K and having 3080TI is close to being able to forget about all this already anyway. Just feels like things are so close to getting out of the era of working about capture cards at all.UGH someone needs to figure this out already.

  • @BenjiDWJ
    @BenjiDWJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    An awesome video & review!
    Cheers, Adam! 😁 🍻

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you :)

  • @prich0382
    @prich0382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've read forum posts that it works with Maxwell too, like 750 Ti and 900 Series GPUs

  • @CrespoFTW
    @CrespoFTW 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epos did you change anything in the xbox colour depth? I got mine but the capture seem darker different compared to the original 4K60 Pro on a non HDR monitor

  • @KmanSweden
    @KmanSweden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovet the video. Thanks.
    About the CRT.. It looks to me like the CRT might need a capkit. The image isn't cropped it's rolling over itself. I've seen this a lot on old Arcade monitors (I have a few arcade cabinets) and TV's. You might wanna check that.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ? It works fine as long as the signal isn't running through this card

  • @marlonlyn2719
    @marlonlyn2719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, I have this card in an egpu setup. It seems to work ok.
    Dell Precision 7720 w/ Thunderbolt 3
    Aorus Gaming Box GTX1080 Shell w/ Card inside.
    My plan is to move this card and the GTX into a separate and portable streaming Box due to needing my thunderbolt 3 for my eGPU

  • @bluesmachine1006
    @bluesmachine1006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay, knew this was coming :D - woah this is a massive update for the card. The FPS upgrade is a huge deal for those with higher refresh monitors, plus you’ll now be able to edit vids to a slow motion style!

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Later than expected

    • @bluesmachine1006
      @bluesmachine1006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      EposVox cool vid, odd that they’ve gone with hdmi though.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Console support is kinda required for it to be viable on the market - especially since the new HDR selling point is mainly a console feature - and most monitors these days support HDMI 2.0. DisplayPort is expensive to manufacture and limits who can use it.

    • @bluesmachine1006
      @bluesmachine1006 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      EposVox well, I’d got used to DP for everything :p

  • @forest_gamingredux8156
    @forest_gamingredux8156 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no issue playing my games through the preview screen. I do not play online games and mostly play JRPG's so the lag is non existent for me.

  • @RenegadeLK
    @RenegadeLK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got mine a week ago and having a few of problems like popping sounds when gameplay gets too loud, "no signal" showing up randomly after I stop recording making me unplug and re-plug to get it fix, and recordings sometimes show nothing. Sigh may just have to return this and try the avermedia 4k instead if I can't find a solution :(

  • @captainobvious8665
    @captainobvious8665 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't seem to find any real answers on this including from elgato tech support, let's see what you guys are made of 😀 Can this card pass 1080p hdr10 in any framerate above 60hz? All of the documentation I can find and Elgato tech support says hdr is only tested at 60 fps. If not, are you aware of any devices that can?

  • @xiFlynn
    @xiFlynn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought the 4K60 Pro please elgato y u do dis

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RIP

  • @Martin__
    @Martin__ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MPC-BE + MadVR is my goto for HDR -> SDR

  • @unwaryrince
    @unwaryrince 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done video! I have a question though: How does the cpu usage of Elgato's software compare to that of Avermedia's while capturing and recording 4k?

  • @SageNoodleVT
    @SageNoodleVT ปีที่แล้ว

    You fixed my problem! Couldn't get it to pass through at 1440p - 120hz. Thanks for your help :D

  • @Moeppel112
    @Moeppel112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:52
    I swear, I was able to put the Resolution to 1920x1080p when my input was a 4K Signal.
    I reinstalled my driver trying to fix an issue I had... the recordings would lose fps, but the game runs butter smooth.
    Well, by uninstalling the driver and reinstalling it by simply rebooting my computer, somehow this does not work for me in OBS anymore.
    Setting another resolution than what actually comes in results for me into a Green Output.
    I cannot find anything regarding this issue... and am just lost at what to do.
    Maybe you have an idea?... Help? Please?

    • @Moeppel112
      @Moeppel112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also tried reinstalling 4K Game Capture Utility and OBS Studio itself completely by also deleting every config possible.

  • @leroycasterline1122
    @leroycasterline1122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This board does exactly what I want, and so much I don't need (or want to pay for). Also, I'm down to 1 PCIE slot that I'd prefer to save. All I need to do is accurately capture the 4K output from my Panasonic FZ300 at 30Hz. Can you suggest a good quality USB 3.0 capture device that will appear as a video source in OBS on my well-powered Win10 PC?

  • @RicoJake
    @RicoJake 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review!

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Strikadelic1
    @Strikadelic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very informative video thank you

  • @TheDrummingPC
    @TheDrummingPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos! Didn't catch any comment on the preview latency. Have you had a chance to test that?
    Curious if we're in the sub 40ms latency space with cards now

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was in the video :) Capture specs section. On mobile so i can't link

    • @TheDrummingPC
      @TheDrummingPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EposVox found it, 10:18
      🤦‍♂️ sorry I totally missed that section, thank you for being so thorough!

  • @odd115
    @odd115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you could pick one avermedia live gamer 4k or elgato 4k60 pro which would it be

  • @ampliciT
    @ampliciT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so can i recording in 1080p but play in 4k with no additional parts with this?

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @ampliciT
      @ampliciT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EposVox ty my good sir

  • @don2k896
    @don2k896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait how does the secret trick actually work? is there a timestamp? I watched the entire video almost twice to see if I missed it :(
    OBS still does not show my capture device when I have the 4K Capture Utility software running, but once i close 4K Cap Utility then my OBS finally shows the Capture Device

  • @Wingnut353
    @Wingnut353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elgato currently lists the 4K60 Pro as compatible with Vega or higher...

  • @Pabula
    @Pabula 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video adam, thanks for continuing to test hardware for us. Any chance you could talk to Corsair and pass them the following,
    Please consider than even if HDMI is the standard for capture cards, given that cameras, consoles and even most PC can do fine with Cloning a DP signal to a HDMI, there is still a need for DP card, there are cases that HDMI simply isnt viable, given that its a still a very small market, i feel that PC and GPU makers have pushed Displayport as the standard, reflected in most high end GPUs come with 3x DP + 1 HDMI. For me specially would be very useful, as running a triple monitor setup (2560x1440@144hz) on an Nvidia Surround supporting Gsync, for me to for it comply all has to be done via DP, i cant clone the center display to use the HDMI because once nvidia surround is setup cloning the center monitor is not possible under windows, here a card like 4k60 ProMKII but on displayport would be ideal, as i could send it to the capture card and then to the monitor, but for now im binded to NDI. I know the market is small, most do fine with HDMI but there is one, and for now only Datapath has it, i would gladly pay double of the 4k60 pro mkII if they make it, i bet there are others that would like one specially thinking that most of the the PC video cards have 3x DP and only 1 HDMI, if they were to want to use their HDMI to a TV they are left without any options, while there are more dp connectors available. I honestly think HDMI is the correct format and i understand why, but honestly i think there is a market to develop a Displayport capture card and i bet it will sell fine, probably not as good as HDMI, but they can charge more for it since it will sell less.
    If elgato dont want to make it, maybe magewell? i would pay the $900 if they can make one, i just think the datapth is way to expensive and no passthrough. Either way, this could be fixed easily if somone could make a displayport high end splitter or signal copy, there are good ones on HDMI, but Displayport.... no, i really dont understand why the PC market pushed a standard that work really well but others dont want to support it, i would prefer to unite on HDMI and have only one standard for everything, but GPU makers dont want to.... its a situation that really dont help users.

  • @GraveyardGrog
    @GraveyardGrog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So technically, you can stream obs with ndi using this capture card without utilizing the 2 pc system?

    • @rightz06
      @rightz06 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you explain what you said pls? does it mean i can put this inside my gaming pc? without buying another another pc?

  • @bellaandelf
    @bellaandelf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would this be a good choice to make a backup copy of a blu-ray movie? I know Makemkv is also an option.

  • @IrishWolf
    @IrishWolf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty solid explanation video as usual dude. Glad the price dropped too.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :)

  • @ningashizda
    @ningashizda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm definitely getting one

  • @michaelleshick
    @michaelleshick 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    howdy! very helpful!!! thank you

  • @Turgineer
    @Turgineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job Elgato!

  • @Lfc322
    @Lfc322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now the only thing is how do you set up sound for consoles if I want to use headphones

  • @batzytoys
    @batzytoys 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant get the HDR to work on my series x or ps5 with this capture card. anyone have any luck?

  • @bubbleguts32
    @bubbleguts32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work as always!!!!

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @bubbleguts32
      @bubbleguts32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      EposVox I respect your opinions and trust your content! That can’t be said enough these days. I always appreciate you responding on twitter to all my questions and that 1 time you edited a montage for me! Thanks for everything always.

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bubbleguts32 Haha, Glad to help. I really appreciate it :)

  • @abc7297
    @abc7297 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching a video about a 4k capture card in 360p.
    TH-cam joined the chat ;)

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally 4k!

  • @plasma06
    @plasma06 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you made a video explaining what bitrates should be set at what resolutions?

  • @luckduck5031
    @luckduck5031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It doesn't even work when I have my graphics card in my pc won't boot

  • @kanbiytpubg2707
    @kanbiytpubg2707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am very frustrated with the new elgato hd60x. I get pixelated recordings and preview with iphone 14pro max. Im playing pubg. I tested passthrough and thats fine but obs and recording in 4k utility looks like 360p. Contacted elgato and tried a few settings over the phone but no luck yet. Been weeks aand still going back and forth. Could nvidia settings be the issue? Please help if you can. ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @attackLive
    @attackLive 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    biggest issue was dual pc sound passtrough

    • @DarkP1
      @DarkP1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elgato has a sound manager utility that solves that ez

  • @liquidstudios-gamer
    @liquidstudios-gamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In all honesty the worst purchase I made in a long time. Runs hot + the software is buggy as hell even with latest firmware plus you need a high end PC/GPU to literally be able to capture from console or otherwise, an additional high cost lol. Returned it to Vendor after two days of use. And support is one big joke. Great Channel and Video by the way.

  • @xsplafstudio7866
    @xsplafstudio7866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get why 1 pc can't work? I really need help please save md

  • @anagraphical_angel
    @anagraphical_angel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ~ Magic ~

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aw yis

  • @brianmcintosh2223
    @brianmcintosh2223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mention this card couldn't handle the 5x mode on OSSC. The Retrotink 5x wasn't out when this was reviewed. Have you gone back and tested this card at all with that scaler? Or would it be better to go with the newer HD60X as someone that streams from both old and new?

  • @NamFlow
    @NamFlow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *360p*
    _Ah shit, here we go agaiiiiiiiin.._

    • @EposVox
      @EposVox  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #360pSQUAD

  • @Bingbangbo3246
    @Bingbangbo3246 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also I’m looking for a video from you or anyone telling people with modest pcs for streaming NOT gaming just obs and recording. Any idea where I can find one.