Awesome review, thank you! I have been a fan of Danish Hifi for a long time and finally bought a TDAI-1120🎉 greetings from Germany, subscribed to your channel👍
@@stjernholmreviews what do you recommend I use to stream Tidal to the Lyngdorf? I have a ROON trial but it’s expensive for what it is and I find it annoying to use my Mac
Wonderful review. Watched your software deep-dive as well - also excellent. This little amp feels like it was made just for me! My speakers are B&W CM5s2’s and 2x REL T5i subs. For 4-5 years I ran these through an Emotiva XDA-2 DAC/Preamp connected to a XPA-200 Amplifier. The REL subs connected via Speakon high level of course. It always sounded great to me, but I knew the Emotiva stack (which I’ve had for a decade or so) was restraining the speakers somewhat. To cut a long story short, I stumbled on this little 1120 quite by accident and after a few days of research and review watching I have pulled the trigger. I did read that one MUST NOT connect subs using the high level outputs, but I’m cool with using the low level outputs now - considering the software bass management will more than make up for that! Soooo excited!! Cheers
Thank you for watching from down under! Using the low level LFE input is preferred on your subs, given that there is no filtering built in on that input. If there for some reason is filtering, you should use the top low level input, with the crossover filter set to the highest possible frequency. If it is possible to place them in corners of the room, you will get even more juice from them :-). Let us know how it worked, and if you find that the 1120 was an upgrade to your previous system!
Great review! I currently own a pair of KEF LS50 Meta and Cambridge Audio CXA61 amp. I have a really small and difficult listening room. Looking to get 1120 and hopefully room correction with bit of room treatment will make it sound better.
Hi Dominik. Thanks for watching the channel. Yes, if you have a difficult room you might be right on with this! Let us know how it goes and remember to try before you buy!
@@stjernholmreviews Will do. I ended up buying the 1120 today. I was trying to decide between this and the NAIM Uniti Atom. Your video pushed me over the edge, lol!
What a great review! You can immediately tell that person has pro audio background based on the overall approach to sound, specific wording etc. I've been contemplating between the active setup, to mimic my studio monitor one (alas with wireless features and all that fluff). But the room correction, 8 band eq with curve control...that's DAW territory right there. So exciting. My only question: how's the built-in phono stage on Lyngdorf? Thanks
Let me congratulate for any review you made; you always give a clear and fair picture of the item with pros and cons; it really helpful. I’ve just moved; I’m looking to change my 10 y.o. all in one marantz melody M-CR 610 with a new streaming amplifier updated with the best in class digital source. The room is little difficult to manage(a 18 sq meters (3x6) in a L 30 sq meters sittingroom with 2 windows and a bookshelf at the opposite of the speakers (2 Elipson Planet L and a sub Focal Air). My pick would be in the range of Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 or Cambridge Audio Evo 150 or Nad C 700 or POWERMODE (2021). What do you suggest most? Thank you in advance. Keep on doing top notch reviews.
The Lyngdorf is the absolutely best if you want to combine one or two subs with the Planet L`s, due to the sophisticated setup possibilities. Check out the deep dive video for more on the awesome setup features. This is where the lyngdorf is miles ahead of everybody else. In terms of raw sound / musicality its a harder choice, but for the setup you are suggesting, I am confident that the 1120 will be the much better choice. (get a extra Focal air 🙂)
I reviewed the M10 here. Do you agree in the findings? (google translated). translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=www.recordere.dk/2020/04/test-nad-m10-streaming-hifi-forstaerker-til-den-moderne-indretning/
@@stjernholmreviews Nice review! What’s worst for me, is that after a few months of using the BluOS app you notice that it’s actually really buggy. The Spotify integration is very unreliable, volume reporting is sometimes incorrect (leading to big jumps when changing volume) and recently the Library connected to my NAS started mixing up files (says it plays song A but plays something completely different). BluOS support team responds to feedback but is unable to solve everything. There doesn’t seem to be much innovation going on anymore at Bluesound. That’s why I’m looking at alternatives.
@@44Bigs I agree. Especially on the NAS integration. It is slow, but in my experience rather good at identifying tracks. No one else has the support of services like bluSound has, but the innovation and development, fine tuning of the (lets be honest) sucky userinterface lets it down. In my opinon BluSound COULD be the preferred platform for all the little niche HIFI manufactures out there, if trey figured out af way to sell it. Instead, it seems more likely that their lack of attention will lead to a slow and painfull death for the platform, and that is a really a pity. I just put on a CD... what a simple joy 🤩
Great review. This box is on my shortlist as well as the Buchardt i150. Any chance of a review from that device? Would be very interested in differences and similarities.
Good review, subscribed! Besides brand matching, is there an added value to use Lyngdorfs speakers and sub(s) with the TDAI1120 - couldn't you just use any speaker and sub? And is it possible to run the Lyngdorfs subs wireless?
Yes you can use any speaker and sub, BUT... the advantage is that when using lyngdorf speakers they know the properties, and add extra "secret sauce" extracting every inch of performance from them. They dont do wireless, but I am sure you can get a sender/receiver system that would work for a sub. Only thing to keep in mind is any latency such system would introduce. (Can be compensated for at well in the amp, but you need to know how much). Let us know what you end up with! For more advanced setup, feel free to get a half hour remote consulting. These things I can pretty much work with remote, given the web interface over a service like teamviewer. Merry Christmas! Consider joining the facebook group and show off your stuff.
Hi and greetings from an english man in Germany! Just discovered your channel and I‘m loving it. Just a quick question, I will be buying this amp shortly, and I wondered if I should get the kef ls50 meta or the Dynaudio emit20. What do you think? Thanks again.
Chris, thank you for joining the channel! Much appreciated! Well.. that choice depends on what you like. Speakers are like a marriage. TRY them both with the music you love, and see where it takes you. (I know my preferences, that would be the dynaudio - but do you?) Take the journey, its always worth it. btw.. my preferences are always moving. I discovered, that what I think i like is not always what I really like... that the expensive part of the reviewer job ;-)
liked very much your review! I wonder if I can use Tidal, Deezer or Quboz without having a streamer. By the other hand, I read its an all digital amp, so that means it doesn't has a DAC cause it uses another technology to work. Would it be a good idea to use an external DAC to improve the sound? I will be using KEFLS50 mate speakers, and maybe adding a sub, I also wanted to make sure it has the power to manage the LS50. On the other hand I was thinking in maybe Naim Uniti Atom or a more analogue cofiguratio like Hegel or music fidelity, but just loved the TDAI...so wanted to be sure its a good match. Thank u a lot!!
Tidal and Qobuz can be played in full quality via ROON to the 1120. Otherwise you will stream via googlecast or airplay from their apps. You not get much from using a external DAC, as all signal processing in the 1120 is digital from signal enters to it leaves :-) The LS50 is not very efficient, nor is it a loud playing speaker, but you should be fine. With the 1120, you will be able to add up to two subwoofers at a later date, making a very powerfull system.
@@stjernholmreviews Thank you very much for your response! Im planning to start adding one REL sub to improve bass response. My other option was Musical Fidelity M5si because of its power and wide presentation. Hegel H120 seems to have a poor gain so maybe not the best option. I really like room correction and having an "all in one system", so maybe this is the one...if you have some other pairing suggestion d be thankful. Finally, great review I could get a lot of information from a different perspective in a very neat and coherent way. Congrats!!
@@alonsotoledo4304 If you plan to add a sub, I see no better option than the 1120 or its big brother, the 3400. You could consider adding two, smaller subwoofers instead of one big, and use the "Boundary subwoofer" concept, that will make your system very powerful, allow you to use much higher crossover frequencies, thus taking load of the amp. All this is perfectly possible with the 1120.
@@stjernholmreviews Thats a great tip!! I own a modest but good for its value Emotiva TA100, I wonder if it would be a good idea (in order to increase the power) to use the Lyngdorf as a preamp connected to it, it has 50w per Chanel a8 ohms and 90 at 4. With my actual speakers (90 db sensitivity) has a pretty good gain. Or would be a better idea to run Lyngdorf it by itself? Im afraid it can distort at high volumes.
Hi!!! Whrn I was picking ampliffiers, I finally chose Musical Fidelity M6si and bluesound Node. Now that I have it , a Bluesound Node, dbx Driverack pa2, I decided to add the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 in my chain , and use it as a pre amp / Dac device to feed the Musical Fidelity M6si. That eay Bluesound and fbx Driverack pa2 can go away......what I wanted to know what do u think about soundstage and imagino, since i leka a medium siempre soundstage with a respetable depth an detail and separation of instruments (not too much like in an analytical way). I read some cons about people Who felt a shrinked soundstage, thats why my question. Regards
Hi alonso. Congratulations with your system. I find the 1120 to be very transparent when used as a pre-amp. I am not crazy about the power amps, in comparison with more expensive amplifiers. As a package though, I think it is amazing.
Hi Jason. It will give you much better subwoofer integration, and dependent on how good your room is potentially better corrected sound. It will also give the possibility to add a second KC62, making your system more powerful. Happy New Year!
Excellent review !, do you think it could drive KEF R700 speaker that actually measured 87db with impedance down to 3.2 ohm and magnitude remains between 4 and 6 ohms for almost all of the audioband (by stereophile) ?
@@stjernholmreviews Thanks for your kind reply, I have to special order this since they’re not available in my country and now I can make an informed decision. I really appreciate it
Thanks for this comprehensive review. I'm thinking of using the 1120 as a Preamp for active speakers, but as it only has one set of outputs how would you incorporate a subwoofer and manage the high and low pass settings? I presume that's not possible? The same question applies if the 1120 was feeding a power amp.
Hi Tony. You are absolutely right. Thats not possible, as we only have one (yet very flexible) set of line output. So in the case of active speakers, you would need a sub that either accepts speaker input (so you can use the speaker output for sub) OR has built in filtering. You would then need to set it up as precisely as you could by ear, and then run RP for the system as a whole. Good luck, let us know what you end up doing here in the comments.
@@stjernholmreviews Hi, and thanks for the advice. I might have imagined it, but I'm sure I read somewhere (perhaps in a manual) that Lyngdorf strongly advise against using the speaker output to drive a sub. I'll check on that as I can't remember the reason.
@@UKTonyMagill @Tony Magill That is true. Some subs are built to accept a speaker signal input, but it is definitely not a good way to do it. If there is no other option, it can be a way to accomodate what you want, if you dont want to buy a MP40, MP60 or the like in their lineup. They have also licensed the tech to Mcintosh, that has a room perfect processor in their lineup, but again properly at 10X the price of a 1120 (that is the main point in the review).
This can easily be done with the minidsp 2x4HD. Simply connect the minidsp to the preamp output of the Lyngdorf and you can add a stereo poweramp and two subwoofers. You can then change cross-over settings in the minidsp
This is great video. You just made me to subscribe. I see many videos I will watch … One question - Can I use the 1120 as streaming DAC and connect it to my current integrated amplifier (Naim Supernait 3)?
Hi Haim, thank you for watching! Yes you could. In fact, you could connect it to the "power amp in" on your Naim, and use the 1120 as a preamp streaming dac, "modernizing" your Naim supernait 3 (great amp BTW!) .
@@haimsheffer5066 Not sure what you mean here? If your current DAC has preamplifier functionality, you can do the same, thus bypassing the NAIM preamplifier in the Supernait. Try both, and see if you can tell the difference.
@@stjernholmreviews , I want the 1120 to be a streamer DAC, not a pre-amplifier. I want to connect it to my Naim pre-amplifier. I found how to do it - you need to shutdown speaker output and set the analog output as full range and set output level control as full range
@@haimsheffer5066 Yes. You set the output to "fixed " , and then connect to a normal line input on the naim. Just remember, that you loose all the roomcorrection and so on, when you switch to another source on the Naim 🙂
Great review and the one which makes me want to purchase more than any other :-) My set up is for my upcoming move and will be Sonus Faber Sonetto III's in a 50m2 room space. Are there any recommendations for a power amplifier to drive 4ohm speakers with the Lyngdorf as a pre-amp? I have a 300w Cambridge subwoofer at present which will have to go if I preamp. I guess I will set it up with the sub first and see how they do.
Yes, all inputs can act as home theater bypass. It is simply an option in the input setup. The input level can even be matched in 1 db steps.. Check the deep dive video for more perspective on this. (it is around the 14 min mark in the deep dive video)
@@remmad4628 No. Everything will work. The HT mode is just a simple way of bypassing the volume control, so you need to be observing the processing delay of the 1120, and compensate for it.
The TDAI-3400 has much more power, a more sophisticated volume control, more connectivity and modules. It also do Tidal Connect among other things. I am still to do a A/B test soundwise.
Thank you for awesome review. I have a question. I am just doubt it provides 60 w with 8Ohm, it seems it is not powerful to operate Mid level speakers well. Currently i use my Rega Elex-R. I am planning to upgrade it to Lyngdorf regarding Power of amplifier. Is it worth a try to go to Tdal 1120 from Elex R although Elex R shows 75w at 8Ohm? Thx alot in advance!
Hello Clanwhie. Thank you for watching the channel! Unfortunately, watts are not watts... It is measured in so many different ways that it is almost a joke. IF the two amps are measured in the same way, then you can kind of compare them. How a amp behaves with your speakers, can only your ears judge. The rega is a pretty warm sounding amp, and you might find absolute heaven using that as a power amp with the 1120 doing all its modern and convenient stuff, allowing you to also listen to the 1120 doing everything and see what you like best. Trust your ears, have fun playing with it! The 1120 CAN do wonders for a speaker/room combination and is great in daily use. PS: There is almost no difference between 60 and 75 watts (measured the same way). 120W will only give you 3 db more headroom. To get 6 dB you would need 240W and so on.. Most important thing is the efficiency of your speakers vs. the listening distance and room size. Did you know that if you sit one meter further away from the speakers in a typical room, you will need more than twice the power to reproduce the same level? Again, let your ears guide you! Good luck, let us know what you learned on your system.
Even at the high probability, that I am not the first one, BUT have you actually asked the Arnold for permission to use his accent? 😄 Jokes aside, just found you, great review, thanks a lot!
Just how good and responsive is the app? I’m a bit worried by the bad reviews in the app store that the app frequently disconnects, doesn’t respond and stuff like that. The iphone app for a system like this should work perfectly. Have you been able to test the app thoroughly? Thanks!
I find it to be rock solid. I see a little issues with updating parameters once in a while, but otherwise like a rock. Remember, you can also ask the app to keep the phone alive when the app is running in the foreground!
I was about to treat my room with +/ 1000,- EUR budget (some ceiling panels, bass trap, and absorbtion panels), when I came upon this little fella. Physically treating the room would be useful either way for sure, but is problematic due to the easthetics, and the wife (bummer, I know). Would this device room correction sw ability substitute for, or even outperform, some room treatment? The Lyngdorf would be obviously much less visible solution, just would need to save a bit more. Currently I use rega planar 2 + dali zensor 3 + rel t/5i + marantz pm6006 + spotify/radio from TV optical. Cheers. Joe
Hi Joe. Thank you for watching the channel and the good question! No room correction can outperform a great room to begin with. It it might be the next best thing. The worst things in a room is reflections that will "smear" the sound, and the physics of low frequencies that behave very different from room to room. Room correction is really good at helping to smooth out bass response, but can never remove early. annoying reflections. Try to fix the worst with wife friendly solutions like heavy curtains in front of windows and stuff like "fixing a wall" with a nice big picture (made from a acoustic material on a deeper frame 🙂. Ceelings can also be padded with (more or less) invisible acoustic materials like "echofon".. or how about "Honey! I just love this carpet". Without knowing your room, what you typically will be looking for is to get rid of any standing waves (being created in between hard walls opposite of each other) and the worst early reflections. With those thing under decent control, Room perfect can take you several steps further. For the purist, all room correction is extra stuff in the signal chain. You can say, the less the room correction need to do, the better! Good luck with the room! Flowers sometimes help 😜
Hmm yes the amp has a very good sound , I have the possibility of a Lyngdorf TDAI for 1300€ or a ARCAM SA 30 for around 1400€. Both have fantastic sound. But I won´t buy both to compare. What is the best buy ?
That totally depends on whats most important to you. If you want to add boundary woofers to your setup, its the Lyngdorf. If you want the most elegant user experience, it is the lyngdorf too. For pure stereo sound and not minding the more cumbersome user experience, I would pick the Arcam. I think it has a beefier tonality. Thank you for watching the channel!
What do you pay for in 1120 (2k€), sound quality, room perfect, streaming features or all of it? I am asking because I'm considering to switch from Cambridge AV receiver 551r to TDAI 1120, but I am afraid that the upgrade is not worth of money sound quality wise.
Its a tough one. With the 1120, you get all the tools needed to achieve a very "correct" sound that you from there can shape to your preferences using voicings. In my experience, if your room is bad or half bad, speaker placement not optimal and so on.. it can really make your sound. On the other hand. SOME people, might prefer (or short term, THINK they prefer) a more "bumpy ride" response-wise. e.g if being used to something different. Long term, I am not that crazy about the amps in the thing. But everything else, is just great. Quality software, rock solid performance, great app & web interface TONS of possibilities. In my review, I suggest trying using it as a pre-amp with another power amp of choice. It works great, and it can be fun to play and compare what you like. Let us know what you learn on the journey. Thanks for watching. Consider to subscribe!
Thank you for your answer. I listened to the TDAI at the dealer's shop, no corrections applied, though the listening room is acoustically treated. The first speakers pair were Q acoustics (not know which model exactly, but floor standers), socond B&Ws S603. B&Ws had more balanced highs and bass compared to Q's in which bass was a bit dominant. Both speakers had in common accurate presentation, I'd say a bit clinical. Input was TIDAL. I live in an apartment, living room 20m2+ with large windows on two walls (no drapes). Speakers DALI Oberon 5. So, I believe room correction could be a game changer in my case. I am also considering Evo 75/100 and Naim Atom, but haven't yet listened to them.
Great review, thanks! :) I'd like to ask a question: Is the drawback of the 1120s power amplifier still a case if listening to music on lower volume levels? I don't really like to turn up my amps that much, also because of my smaller room of 15-20 square meters. Thanks for the response in advance! :)
Its not a drawback if you dont need the power. Also, it is actually pretty powerful, as it delivers 120 watts per channel in 4 ohms. In my test, I used it to drive my large reference speakers that is not very efficient, and here I could use more power with dynamic material. In the review, I am comparing it with a 10 times more expensive system.
@@stjernholmreviews that's great to hear, I think I'm replacing my current Audiolab 6000A Play with this one. My last concern is that does it sound really good at all volume levels? For the Audiolab I'd need to crank up the amp to get to life. The 1120 sound life-like and "full" at its best even when outputing conversation-like volume?
@@gejdfr05 To be honest, that is probably more up to your speakers and room than the amp, BUT.. Roomperfect always ensures a very balanced presentation, and good, even bass response in the room. That can make a big difference at any listening level. Remember, your ears are less sensitive to bass and treble at low volume, so it sounds like it is "disappearing" at low volume. With the 1120, you could make a voicing that compensates all you need when playing at low volume, and simply select that satisfying voicing when playing at low levels, and have a another (or switch to neutral) at higher levels!
Hi, if I want to use it as a simple amplifier with vintage Monitor Audio floorstanders (no subs, preamp, or any additional stuff), will the 1120 do a good job? With Punchy and decent bass?
Hello Yaron! That is not something that is possible to determine like this. There is a very big possibility that Roomperfect will do a significant difference a room. The bass is always the biggest improvement. Thank you for watching the channel!
thanks for the incredibly detailed review. i have a TDAI-1120, and generally it is a complete amp. Yet, i would like to adjust the sound to a more of a "V sound signature." (I have old ears...)). However, it isn't clear to me how to do this using the 8 filters. Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can do this? Thanks.)))))
Daren, are you referring to a loudness curve, where you want to lift both bass and treble for lower level listening? You would simply goto the web UI, enter setup / voicing setup name a new voicing and click "add" and create it there. There is several ways to archive the result. One way, could be to set filter 1 to "parametric", select say, 1000 hz at the target frequency, and set a wide Q, try 0.5 and gain to -3. Then save the filter. You test it by loading the voicing like you normally would. If you want more, try with higher negative gain settings. You can also experiment with the center frequency (try 1500 hz) and the with by changing the Q value. The filter simply will dampen the mid frequencies in order to achieve what you are looking for. It can also be done by using low shelf and high shelf filters, but the way i just described is probably the easiest way. Let us know what you learned on your system. Thanks for watching the channel.
@@stjernholmreviews Can't wait for that! I'm compare NAD M10, Naim Uniti Atom and Evo. Then just notice about TDAI-1120. I think its features are impressive both for their app and also room perfect but it is not supported for Tidal Connect and I am not sure about Spotify connect ( I don't want to pay for Roon subscription)
@@stjernholmreviews It should support Tidal Connect. I am not sure about quality of chromcast vs tidal connect ( OK. without MQA in this consideration)
Hey, when I get a external phono amplifier that TDAI-1120 would be phantastic right ? I would use it with Dali opticon 2 mk 2 speakers and a Rega Planar 3. I want to listen to music via my turntable and Spotify
Maybe. It really depends on so many factors. Currently, I am actually testing two high-end turntables and different cartridges, - and it is crazy how different they sound. Sound is very subjective. It might be that the 1120 phono amp suits your style of music! So try it first, then try a external phono pre and see how you like it. If it does not give you a stronger emotional response to the music you love, you might be better off spending on a better cartridge or something else. Try it, and trust your experience! Let us know how it went here in the thread!
@@stjernholmreviews so I have to try. Do you think the Dali speakers will get along nicely with the device? Well Lyngdorf founded Dali so I Hope it works. The next hifi Shop with the Lyngdorf is quiet a bit of distance for my place: (
No, but I have played around with the CD2. Its a great player on is own, but feels like a bit wasteful with a digital amp to be honest. You will spend money on analog electronics rather than the transport.
If you have extremely sensitive speakers , is the amplifier still an issue? My speakers are 92 sensitive and I’ve used a 5 watt rube amp on them very enjoyably.
There is no issue as such with the rather powerful (120 watt into 4 ohms) amplifier. The sound COMPARISON with with my 10 times more expensive reference amplifier is what I am referring to in the review. As a package, the 1120 is a brilliant piece of kit, and will drive your speakers to the limit, without breaking a sweat :-)
Great review! Im looking for an amp for Dynaudio Evoke 20/Special 40 How this thing will compare with Denon 1600NE? I would rather get something with streaming capabilities.
You cant really compare them. I reviewed the denons big brother, and it sounds great. The lyngdorf offers something very different with the all digital approach, roomcorrection and amazing sophistication that will allow you to add subwoofers to your dynaudios to get a very powerfull system. So in terms of future proofing and versatility, I would go with the lyngdorf. If you want to go with something much more "classic" fat sounding and analog, the denon could be the perfect fit. TRY BOTH!
@@stjernholmreviews Thank you for your time sir! Lyngdorf indeed seems like a very interesting thing with a lot of tech built in. I think I will pull the trigger (Room correction is also highly praised). My only concern is the power of TDAI-1120, Denon seems to be a more powerful amp, although my room is small and listening distance is only 7 feet. Will try and see if I can get both of them.
@@RafaelGrigorian In practical use there will be extremely little difference in power. Remember, that you would need TWICE the power just to get 3db extra output. If you later on, decide to add one or two subwoofers later the lyngdorf will integrate them very well, and take the load of the dynaudios for the power hungry bass giving you way more output. Adding subs with this amp, is like growing your speakers :-)
@@stjernholmreviews Good to know thanks for the advice! I've read that both S40/Evoke 20 are power hungry (6ohm,86DB) speakers that need high current amp. Appreciate your help!
@@RafaelGrigorian Thats not to bad at all. Remember, the 1120 delivers 120 watts into 4 ohms. Let us know your expirienced with the amps here in the comments! I would love to know what YOU think.
Very helpful review. Enjoyed your sense of humor in it. Would really like your opinion on how this device compares to NAD c399, Naim Uniti Atom and Marantz 40n.
Thanks for watching. I have not compared them side by side, and If I did, I would only be able to judge the basic neutral sound. The 112o cant really be compared due to its very unique features and sophistication than no of the other amps you mention come even close to. If you want to say, add subwoofers to your setup or if your room needs a helping hand.. Then the 1120 has so much more to offer. If not, I suggest you "just listen". Good luck finding your "amp soulmate"!
@@stjernholmreviews actually the c399 has Hdmi Arc as week, full bluOS integration and built-in Dirac Live room correction. So not sure why you're saying the Ly gdoef offers much more capabilities. Now I haven't listened to either and am actually debating which one to buy lol
@@clemleg123 I know it sounds like it is the same, but it is not. Far from it. The C399 is a great unit, no doubt. Here is the things to consider: 1) Subwoofer integration. The Lyngdorf does boundary subwoofer setups using two subs IN STEREO, allowing you to use very high crossovers. It offers many filter types as well as dedicated speaker EQ for each speaker, INCLUDING the subs. You can adjust the timing of each speaker, and ROOMPERFECT is very different from dirac in the way it approaches room correction (everything is covered in the lyngdorf videos). On top of it all, you have the 8 band voicing DSP available and the slickest remote app ever. I like Blusound as well, its very flexible but can be a little "flakey". Last, the price.. You get the nice Hypex amps with the NAD. If you need the extra 6 dBs of headroom they offer? The dirac and blusound is an option module on top of the price of the c399, so it will end up being at least 25% more expensive than the 1120. Main takeaway should be, that the C399 is way less sophisticated in the DSP features and cant match the daily user experience. So you need to weigh the other things in order to know what is right for you. Do you need / Use subs? Do you need the extra power with your speakers? How do you listen to music? Is blusound the right for you? Do your room need a lot of correction? ... and so on. Good luck.
@@stjernholmreviews good points. On price NAD is actually launching the C3050LE soon which will be £1799, hence cheaper than the Lyngdorf and yet have HDMI, Dirac etc. But the amp modules will be UdC as opposed to Ncore. And of course the looks are great with the vintage look and vu meters 😍😍
I really appreciate the “mmmm mmm I just want to lick it!” On some strange level it appealed to both the black and British in me. Subscribed! I’m sold on this amp and the kef ls50. The challenge is what, if anything, else do I need? Other than a technique turntable for my records.
Hi, new subscriber to your channel. Would this be sufficient for my newly ordered(it will arrive in 3 days) Spatial Sapphire M4 open baffle speakers? Thanks.
There might be enough power, but I have no clue if the combo would be a good match in your room, with your listening preferences. That would require much more conversation and seeing your space.
Thank you, great review. I'm confused about one thing, excuse my ignorance -- if I use the TDAi-1120 as a pre-amp/streamer, and use my existing NAD as the power amp, do I still get all the benefits of the features? i.e. RoomPerfect, digital inputs, subwoofer connections, phono stage etc
Hello Leo. I did not make that clear in the video. Sorry. You loose the subwoofer functionality, as you use the intended outputs as pre-outs in that case. You still get all the other benefits.
@@stjernholmreviews Many thanks - apologies I just realised I'd asked the subwoofer question when I saw your other TDAi1120 vid. Great to have confirmation of Room Perfect and the other features, this merits serious consideration for me, cheers
If you upgrade the 1120's output caps with Jupitor .47uf wax/oil, bypass these with Dueland .01 silver, rewire the board to speaker terminals with gold/silver cable, doubled, apply lots of anti resonance stickers on the insides, some Mad scientist bits for RF, not forgetting the Mad Scientist graphene digital interconnect... you have a winner, at ANY price. I'm planning same for my 2 systems.. Siam and Vienna.. that over SE tubes and LKS DAC etc.
@@stjernholmreviews Wow so fast response, amazing!! I was watching one of your videos "feature deep dive" , and theres a part using it only as preamp. You used the full range Mode, but I Wonder if its also pissible to set all the crossover info, high an low pass filters etc...using it as I d like only as preamp. Thanks 😀
@@alonsotoledo4304 Yes you could. But why would you? It is just a matter of keeping the volume set to "variable" . You can do whatever filtering you want using voicings, or you can setup permanent "speaker eq" BEFORE the applying a specific voicing. Check out the TDAI-3400 review for some graphics on the signal flow.
Ok , I m almost to buy the Lyngdorf, would u say that using it as preamp for a Musical Fidelity M5si would be a good match? Or not good enough amp to use with the Lyngdorf?
@@alonsotoledo4304 😄. I think you will prefer the M5si to drive the speakers. Unfortunately, it does not have a poweramp input, so the 1120 will need to be connected as a source. Listen to both combinations, and just listen.
Low Noise, bit tinny sounding. Tested with a Ortofon Black that is also a bit tinny. Try it with a fatty sounding warm cartridge, and you will most likely have a very decent balance. Thank you for watching!
@@haimsheffer5066 I dont think you can compare them as such. Itss two different classes of products. From a daily use standpoint, the 1120 is simplicity. Are you using Room Perfect and/or voicings? Is the 1120 used as a preamp as well?
@@stjernholmreviews I use it as DAC and connect it to my Naim supernait 3 via RCA cables. I am Roon user. So all the fancy screens of Rose are less interesting to me. I ask about sound quality. Will it be an upgrade to move to HIFI ROSE RS150b?
You are spot on with your observation. Danes have adapted english technical words, where the sweden and norway invented their own technical words. The danes were lazy that way! 😁. Just look up the word for "computer" in all three languages. 🤪. When the scandinavians meet, we danes often switch to english (even though its embarrasing) if the conversation gets to technical. Norwegian television made a really funny sketch about the phenomenon in english: th-cam.com/video/s-mOy8VUEBk/w-d-xo.html. enjoy!
Totally depends on what is most important to you. The Lyngdorf is on another planet when looking at the possibilities for sound tailoring and subwoofer integration.
That is just keeping the app limited to what you need in daily life. If you want to dig in, you just open the webinterface and you can nerd away like no other. That you can also do just using the browser on your device.
Please expand on the statement to highten the IQ level of the conversation. Anything else out there, that can do what it does in a easy to use package, since you make that statement?
This is an exceptional video. I've seen most of the TDAI-1120 review, but this one is unique. You've done a fantastic job IMO. Thank you! 🙂
Thank you so much. I hope it was useful!
Your channel deserves plus 30dB subscribers! Thnx.
You are too kind. Thank you. Time is our friend :-)
Awesome review, thank you! I have been a fan of Danish Hifi for a long time and finally bought a TDAI-1120🎉 greetings from Germany, subscribed to your channel👍
Hi Tom. Thank you for watching the channel! Let us know how it goes here in the comments!
Just bought this today, together with a couple of Dali Opticon 6MK2. Can't wait!
Feel free to share your experience with it here!
Hey, how is it sounding? :)
Really liked this review. Covered so many things other reviewers did not, yet it never felt bloated or padded out
Thanks man! Much appriciated.
Definitely my new favourite reviewer. Well done! Just purchased an 1120 for myself
Thank you for the kind words, and happy listening with your new amp!
@@stjernholmreviews what do you recommend I use to stream Tidal to the Lyngdorf? I have a ROON trial but it’s expensive for what it is and I find it annoying to use my Mac
this is an incredible review, very clear and concise
You guys make me blush :-)
Wonderful review. Watched your software deep-dive as well - also excellent. This little amp feels like it was made just for me! My speakers are B&W CM5s2’s and 2x REL T5i subs. For 4-5 years I ran these through an Emotiva XDA-2 DAC/Preamp connected to a XPA-200 Amplifier. The REL subs connected via Speakon high level of course. It always sounded great to me, but I knew the Emotiva stack (which I’ve had for a decade or so) was restraining the speakers somewhat. To cut a long story short, I stumbled on this little 1120 quite by accident and after a few days of research and review watching I have pulled the trigger. I did read that one MUST NOT connect subs using the high level outputs, but I’m cool with using the low level outputs now - considering the software bass management will more than make up for that! Soooo excited!! Cheers
Thank you for watching from down under! Using the low level LFE input is preferred on your subs, given that there is no filtering built in on that input. If there for some reason is filtering, you should use the top low level input, with the crossover filter set to the highest possible frequency. If it is possible to place them in corners of the room, you will get even more juice from them :-). Let us know how it worked, and if you find that the 1120 was an upgrade to your previous system!
Great review! I currently own a pair of KEF LS50 Meta and Cambridge Audio CXA61 amp. I have a really small and difficult listening room. Looking to get 1120 and hopefully room correction with bit of room treatment will make it sound better.
Hi Dominik. Thanks for watching the channel. Yes, if you have a difficult room you might be right on with this! Let us know how it goes and remember to try before you buy!
How did it go? I have a pair of KEFs as well, so I'm interested!
I have the 1120, and i did the RoomPerfect. It made a slight improvement, but nothing dramatic. Good luck in your quest.
Awesome review! Very thoughtful and through.
Thank you so much for supporting the channel! Be sure to check out the deep dive video too!
@@stjernholmreviews Will do. I ended up buying the 1120 today. I was trying to decide between this and the NAIM Uniti Atom. Your video pushed me over the edge, lol!
Fantastic review!
Glad you liked it!
What a great review! You can immediately tell that person has pro audio background based on the overall approach to sound, specific wording etc. I've been contemplating between the active setup, to mimic my studio monitor one (alas with wireless features and all that fluff). But the room correction, 8 band eq with curve control...that's DAW territory right there. So exciting. My only question: how's the built-in phono stage on Lyngdorf? Thanks
Thank you for the kind words. I found the phono pre to sound bit “tinny”.
Let me congratulate for any review you made; you always give a clear and fair picture of the item with pros and cons; it really helpful.
I’ve just moved; I’m looking to change my 10 y.o. all in one marantz melody M-CR 610 with a new streaming amplifier updated with the best in class digital source. The room is little difficult to manage(a 18 sq meters (3x6) in a L 30 sq meters sittingroom with 2 windows and a bookshelf at the opposite of the speakers (2 Elipson Planet L and a sub Focal Air).
My pick would be in the range of Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 or Cambridge Audio Evo 150 or Nad C 700 or POWERMODE (2021). What do you suggest most? Thank you in advance. Keep on doing top notch reviews.
The Lyngdorf is the absolutely best if you want to combine one or two subs with the Planet L`s, due to the sophisticated setup possibilities. Check out the deep dive video for more on the awesome setup features. This is where the lyngdorf is miles ahead of everybody else. In terms of raw sound / musicality its a harder choice, but for the setup you are suggesting, I am confident that the 1120 will be the much better choice. (get a extra Focal air 🙂)
@@stjernholmreviews thank you very much; I fully agree with you!
Really good review, thanks 👍
Thanks for watching!
Superb and very compressive review!! 🌟
Great review! This amplifier is what I wanted my NAD + BluOS to be.
I reviewed the M10 here. Do you agree in the findings? (google translated). translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=www.recordere.dk/2020/04/test-nad-m10-streaming-hifi-forstaerker-til-den-moderne-indretning/
@@stjernholmreviews Nice review! What’s worst for me, is that after a few months of using the BluOS app you notice that it’s actually really buggy. The Spotify integration is very unreliable, volume reporting is sometimes incorrect (leading to big jumps when changing volume) and recently the Library connected to my NAS started mixing up files (says it plays song A but plays something completely different). BluOS support team responds to feedback but is unable to solve everything. There doesn’t seem to be much innovation going on anymore at Bluesound. That’s why I’m looking at alternatives.
@@44Bigs I agree. Especially on the NAS integration. It is slow, but in my experience rather good at identifying tracks. No one else has the support of services like bluSound has, but the innovation and development, fine tuning of the (lets be honest) sucky userinterface lets it down. In my opinon BluSound COULD be the preferred platform for all the little niche HIFI manufactures out there, if trey figured out af way to sell it. Instead, it seems more likely that their lack of attention will lead to a slow and painfull death for the platform, and that is a really a pity. I just put on a CD... what a simple joy 🤩
Just discovered your channel. Fine review. I plan on using the 1120 as a preamp feeding a set of Orchard Audio's GanFet Starkrimson Monoblocks 🙂
You can do that and just listen.
😂😂😂
Great review. This box is on my shortlist as well as the Buchardt i150. Any chance of a review from that device? Would be very interested in differences and similarities.
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Terrific review. Just subscribed🙂
Thank you for the kind words, sir!
Great review for a great amp.
Good review, subscribed! Besides brand matching, is there an added value to use Lyngdorfs speakers and sub(s) with the TDAI1120 - couldn't you just use any speaker and sub? And is it possible to run the Lyngdorfs subs wireless?
Yes you can use any speaker and sub, BUT... the advantage is that when using lyngdorf speakers they know the properties, and add extra "secret sauce" extracting every inch of performance from them. They dont do wireless, but I am sure you can get a sender/receiver system that would work for a sub. Only thing to keep in mind is any latency such system would introduce. (Can be compensated for at well in the amp, but you need to know how much). Let us know what you end up with! For more advanced setup, feel free to get a half hour remote consulting. These things I can pretty much work with remote, given the web interface over a service like teamviewer. Merry Christmas! Consider joining the facebook group and show off your stuff.
Love this, thanks!
Thank you for watching the channel! I am glad you find it useful.
Hi and greetings from an english man in Germany! Just discovered your channel and I‘m loving it. Just a quick question, I will be buying this amp shortly, and I wondered if I should get the kef ls50 meta or the Dynaudio emit20. What do you think? Thanks again.
Chris, thank you for joining the channel! Much appreciated! Well.. that choice depends on what you like. Speakers are like a marriage. TRY them both with the music you love, and see where it takes you. (I know my preferences, that would be the dynaudio - but do you?) Take the journey, its always worth it. btw.. my preferences are always moving. I discovered, that what I think i like is not always what I really like... that the expensive part of the reviewer job ;-)
liked very much your review! I wonder if I can use Tidal, Deezer or Quboz without having a streamer. By the other hand, I read its an all digital amp, so that means it doesn't has a DAC cause it uses another technology to work. Would it be a good idea to use an external DAC to improve the sound? I will be using KEFLS50 mate speakers, and maybe adding a sub, I also wanted to make sure it has the power to manage the LS50. On the other hand I was thinking in maybe Naim Uniti Atom or a more analogue cofiguratio like Hegel or music fidelity, but just loved the TDAI...so wanted to be sure its a good match. Thank u a lot!!
Tidal and Qobuz can be played in full quality via ROON to the 1120. Otherwise you will stream via googlecast or airplay from their apps. You not get much from using a external DAC, as all signal processing in the 1120 is digital from signal enters to it leaves :-) The LS50 is not very efficient, nor is it a loud playing speaker, but you should be fine. With the 1120, you will be able to add up to two subwoofers at a later date, making a very powerfull system.
@@stjernholmreviews Thank you very much for your response! Im planning to start adding one REL sub to improve bass response. My other option was Musical Fidelity M5si because of its power and wide presentation. Hegel H120 seems to have a poor gain so maybe not the best option. I really like room correction and having an "all in one system", so maybe this is the one...if you have some other pairing suggestion d be thankful. Finally, great review I could get a lot of information from a different perspective in a very neat and coherent way. Congrats!!
@@alonsotoledo4304 If you plan to add a sub, I see no better option than the 1120 or its big brother, the 3400. You could consider adding two, smaller subwoofers instead of one big, and use the "Boundary subwoofer" concept, that will make your system very powerful, allow you to use much higher crossover frequencies, thus taking load of the amp. All this is perfectly possible with the 1120.
@@stjernholmreviews Thats a great tip!! I own a modest but good for its value Emotiva TA100, I wonder if it would be a good idea (in order to increase the power) to use the Lyngdorf as a preamp connected to it, it has 50w per Chanel a8 ohms and 90 at 4. With my actual speakers (90 db sensitivity) has a pretty good gain. Or would be a better idea to run Lyngdorf it by itself? Im afraid it can distort at high volumes.
@@alonsotoledo4304 The speakers are very sensitive, but as always. Try it and trust your ears. What you hear is always right.
Hi!!! Whrn I was picking ampliffiers, I finally chose Musical Fidelity M6si and bluesound Node. Now that I have it , a Bluesound Node, dbx Driverack pa2, I decided to add the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 in my chain , and use it as a pre amp / Dac device to feed the Musical Fidelity M6si. That eay Bluesound and fbx Driverack pa2 can go away......what I wanted to know what do u think about soundstage and imagino, since i leka a medium siempre soundstage with a respetable depth an detail and separation of instruments (not too much like in an analytical way). I read some cons about people Who felt a shrinked soundstage, thats why my question. Regards
Hi alonso. Congratulations with your system. I find the 1120 to be very transparent when used as a pre-amp. I am not crazy about the power amps, in comparison with more expensive amplifiers. As a package though, I think it is amazing.
Great review ! I have the Bluesound Powernode, LS50 Metas and a KC62. Would the TDAI-1100 be a noticeable upgrade to the Powernode ?
Hi Jason. It will give you much better subwoofer integration, and dependent on how good your room is potentially better corrected sound. It will also give the possibility to add a second KC62, making your system more powerful. Happy New Year!
Excellent review !, do you think it could drive KEF R700 speaker that actually measured 87db with impedance down to 3.2 ohm and magnitude remains between 4 and 6 ohms for almost all of the audioband (by stereophile) ?
Yes it can, but it will not be able to make the most of the available headroom in the R700. I would strongly suggest to look at the 3400 instead.
@@stjernholmreviews Thanks for your kind reply, I have to special order this since they’re not available in my country and now I can make an informed decision. I really appreciate it
Thanks for this comprehensive review. I'm thinking of using the 1120 as a Preamp for active speakers, but as it only has one set of outputs how would you incorporate a subwoofer and manage the high and low pass settings? I presume that's not possible? The same question applies if the 1120 was feeding a power amp.
Hi Tony. You are absolutely right. Thats not possible, as we only have one (yet very flexible) set of line output. So in the case of active speakers, you would need a sub that either accepts speaker input (so you can use the speaker output for sub) OR has built in filtering. You would then need to set it up as precisely as you could by ear, and then run RP for the system as a whole. Good luck, let us know what you end up doing here in the comments.
@@stjernholmreviews Hi, and thanks for the advice. I might have imagined it, but I'm sure I read somewhere (perhaps in a manual) that Lyngdorf strongly advise against using the speaker output to drive a sub. I'll check on that as I can't remember the reason.
@@UKTonyMagill @Tony Magill That is true. Some subs are built to accept a speaker signal input, but it is definitely not a good way to do it. If there is no other option, it can be a way to accomodate what you want, if you dont want to buy a MP40, MP60 or the like in their lineup. They have also licensed the tech to Mcintosh, that has a room perfect processor in their lineup, but again properly at 10X the price of a 1120 (that is the main point in the review).
This can easily be done with the minidsp 2x4HD. Simply connect the minidsp to the preamp output of the Lyngdorf and you can add a stereo poweramp and two subwoofers. You can then change cross-over settings in the minidsp
Tony can I connect a amplifier to this 1120 . I know it’s a Integrated unit
This is great video. You just made me to subscribe. I see many videos I will watch …
One question -
Can I use the 1120 as streaming DAC and connect it to my current integrated amplifier (Naim Supernait 3)?
Hi Haim, thank you for watching! Yes you could. In fact, you could connect it to the "power amp in" on your Naim, and use the 1120 as a preamp streaming dac, "modernizing" your Naim supernait 3 (great amp BTW!) .
@@stjernholmreviews
Should I define the NAIM as power amplifier only if I can leave as regular amplifier (same as with my current DAC)?
@@haimsheffer5066 Not sure what you mean here? If your current DAC has preamplifier functionality, you can do the same, thus bypassing the NAIM preamplifier in the Supernait. Try both, and see if you can tell the difference.
@@stjernholmreviews , I want the 1120 to be a streamer DAC, not a pre-amplifier.
I want to connect it to my Naim pre-amplifier. I found how to do it - you need to shutdown speaker output and set the analog output as full range and set output level control as full range
@@haimsheffer5066 Yes. You set the output to "fixed " , and then connect to a normal line input on the naim. Just remember, that you loose all the roomcorrection and so on, when you switch to another source on the Naim 🙂
Great review and the one which makes me want to purchase more than any other :-)
My set up is for my upcoming move and will be Sonus Faber Sonetto III's in a 50m2 room space. Are there any recommendations for a power amplifier to drive 4ohm speakers with the Lyngdorf as a pre-amp? I have a 300w Cambridge subwoofer at present which will have to go if I preamp. I guess I will set it up with the sub first and see how they do.
... OR.. you can take a look at a TDAI-3400 or used 2170 and still use your sub.
@@stjernholmreviews I decided to sell the speakers and go for the new LS 60's. Can't wait to hear them or watch your review if you are making one 🙂
Great review. Is there a HT bypass feature on this 1120?
Yes, all inputs can act as home theater bypass. It is simply an option in the input setup. The input level can even be matched in 1 db steps.. Check the deep dive video for more perspective on this. (it is around the 14 min mark in the deep dive video)
@@stjernholmreviews Great. Thank you.
@@stjernholmreviews I guess if I set it up as HT bypass, all the filters and audio processing will not work, correct?
@@remmad4628 No. Everything will work. The HT mode is just a simple way of bypassing the volume control, so you need to be observing the processing delay of the 1120, and compensate for it.
@@stjernholmreviews New question: How do you set the analog out as a line level fixed out? Will that disable the RoomPerfect?
Great work man! Thanks:) do You know how this compares to the lyngdorf tdai 3400? What are the differences with audio and functionallity?? :)
The TDAI-3400 has much more power, a more sophisticated volume control, more connectivity and modules. It also do Tidal Connect among other things. I am still to do a A/B test soundwise.
Sound wise, Lyngdorf state that they sound identical.
@@AnalogueInTheUK I doubt it to be true, as the engineering is different. I look forward to verify once a unit can be made avaliable.
Thank you for awesome review. I have a question. I am just doubt it provides 60 w with 8Ohm, it seems it is not powerful to operate Mid level speakers well. Currently i use my Rega Elex-R. I am planning to upgrade it to Lyngdorf regarding Power of amplifier. Is it worth a try to go to Tdal 1120 from Elex R although Elex R shows 75w at 8Ohm? Thx alot in advance!
Hello Clanwhie. Thank you for watching the channel! Unfortunately, watts are not watts... It is measured in so many different ways that it is almost a joke. IF the two amps are measured in the same way, then you can kind of compare them. How a amp behaves with your speakers, can only your ears judge. The rega is a pretty warm sounding amp, and you might find absolute heaven using that as a power amp with the 1120 doing all its modern and convenient stuff, allowing you to also listen to the 1120 doing everything and see what you like best. Trust your ears, have fun playing with it! The 1120 CAN do wonders for a speaker/room combination and is great in daily use. PS: There is almost no difference between 60 and 75 watts (measured the same way). 120W will only give you 3 db more headroom. To get 6 dB you would need 240W and so on.. Most important thing is the efficiency of your speakers vs. the listening distance and room size. Did you know that if you sit one meter further away from the speakers in a typical room, you will need more than twice the power to reproduce the same level? Again, let your ears guide you! Good luck, let us know what you learned on your system.
Even at the high probability, that I am not the first one, BUT have you actually asked the Arnold for permission to use his accent? 😄 Jokes aside, just found you, great review, thanks a lot!
hahahahaha... Good one 😁 Welcome to the channel! I hope you will have much fun & inspiration here.
Just how good and responsive is the app? I’m a bit worried by the bad reviews in the app store that the app frequently disconnects, doesn’t respond and stuff like that. The iphone app for a system like this should work perfectly. Have you been able to test the app thoroughly? Thanks!
I find it to be rock solid. I see a little issues with updating parameters once in a while, but otherwise like a rock. Remember, you can also ask the app to keep the phone alive when the app is running in the foreground!
Do you have any experience regarding whether there is a sound difference between tdai 3400 and a combination of the tdai 1120 and the sda 2400?
Hi andreas. I have not had the chance to compare them directly, - but I will, if Lyngdorf is willing :-). (I have asked for it)
You won't be able to add any subs if you go that route Andreas. Probably done deliberately to push you to the 3400.
I was about to treat my room with +/ 1000,- EUR budget (some ceiling panels, bass trap, and absorbtion panels), when I came upon this little fella. Physically treating the room would be useful either way for sure, but is problematic due to the easthetics, and the wife (bummer, I know). Would this device room correction sw ability substitute for, or even outperform, some room treatment? The Lyngdorf would be obviously much less visible solution, just would need to save a bit more. Currently I use rega planar 2 + dali zensor 3 + rel t/5i + marantz pm6006 + spotify/radio from TV optical. Cheers. Joe
Hi Joe. Thank you for watching the channel and the good question! No room correction can outperform a great room to begin with. It it might be the next best thing. The worst things in a room is reflections that will "smear" the sound, and the physics of low frequencies that behave very different from room to room. Room correction is really good at helping to smooth out bass response, but can never remove early. annoying reflections.
Try to fix the worst with wife friendly solutions like heavy curtains in front of windows and stuff like "fixing a wall" with a nice big picture (made from a acoustic material on a deeper frame 🙂. Ceelings can also be padded with (more or less) invisible acoustic materials like "echofon".. or how about "Honey! I just love this carpet". Without knowing your room, what you typically will be looking for is to get rid of any standing waves (being created in between hard walls opposite of each other) and the worst early reflections. With those thing under decent control, Room perfect can take you several steps further. For the purist, all room correction is extra stuff in the signal chain. You can say, the less the room correction need to do, the better! Good luck with the room! Flowers sometimes help 😜
Hmm yes the amp has a very good sound , I have the possibility of a Lyngdorf TDAI for 1300€ or a ARCAM SA 30 for around 1400€. Both have fantastic sound. But I won´t buy both to compare. What is the best buy ?
That totally depends on whats most important to you. If you want to add boundary woofers to your setup, its the Lyngdorf. If you want the most elegant user experience, it is the lyngdorf too. For pure stereo sound and not minding the more cumbersome user experience, I would pick the Arcam. I think it has a beefier tonality. Thank you for watching the channel!
What do you pay for in 1120 (2k€), sound quality, room perfect, streaming features or all of it? I am asking because I'm considering to switch from Cambridge AV receiver 551r to TDAI 1120, but I am afraid that the upgrade is not worth of money sound quality wise.
Its a tough one. With the 1120, you get all the tools needed to achieve a very "correct" sound that you from there can shape to your preferences using voicings. In my experience, if your room is bad or half bad, speaker placement not optimal and so on.. it can really make your sound.
On the other hand. SOME people, might prefer (or short term, THINK they prefer) a more "bumpy ride" response-wise. e.g if being used to something different.
Long term, I am not that crazy about the amps in the thing. But everything else, is just great. Quality software, rock solid performance, great app & web interface TONS of possibilities.
In my review, I suggest trying using it as a pre-amp with another power amp of choice. It works great, and it can be fun to play and compare what you like. Let us know what you learn on the journey. Thanks for watching. Consider to subscribe!
Thank you for your answer. I listened to the TDAI at the dealer's shop, no corrections applied, though the listening room is acoustically treated. The first speakers pair were Q acoustics (not know which model exactly, but floor standers), socond B&Ws S603. B&Ws had more balanced highs and bass compared to Q's in which bass was a bit dominant. Both speakers had in common accurate presentation, I'd say a bit clinical. Input was TIDAL.
I live in an apartment, living room 20m2+ with large windows on two walls (no drapes). Speakers DALI Oberon 5. So, I believe room correction could be a game changer in my case.
I am also considering Evo 75/100 and Naim Atom, but haven't yet listened to them.
Oh, it has competition from Cambridge now! :D
yes, the evo series will be interesting to review! I am planning a edge/evo review run!
Does the Cambridge have Room correction?
Can't wait for you to compare it to CA Evo 75 and 150 all in one's. I like the Evo series better but still inclined toward Room Perfect.
@@AakashNarang I am waiting for it.
Great review, thanks! :)
I'd like to ask a question: Is the drawback of the 1120s power amplifier still a case if listening to music on lower volume levels? I don't really like to turn up my amps that much, also because of my smaller room of 15-20 square meters. Thanks for the response in advance! :)
Its not a drawback if you dont need the power. Also, it is actually pretty powerful, as it delivers 120 watts per channel in 4 ohms. In my test, I used it to drive my large reference speakers that is not very efficient, and here I could use more power with dynamic material. In the review, I am comparing it with a 10 times more expensive system.
@@stjernholmreviews that's great to hear, I think I'm replacing my current Audiolab 6000A Play with this one. My last concern is that does it sound really good at all volume levels? For the Audiolab I'd need to crank up the amp to get to life. The 1120 sound life-like and "full" at its best even when outputing conversation-like volume?
@@gejdfr05 To be honest, that is probably more up to your speakers and room than the amp, BUT.. Roomperfect always ensures a very balanced presentation, and good, even bass response in the room. That can make a big difference at any listening level. Remember, your ears are less sensitive to bass and treble at low volume, so it sounds like it is "disappearing" at low volume. With the 1120, you could make a voicing that compensates all you need when playing at low volume, and simply select that satisfying voicing when playing at low levels, and have a another (or switch to neutral) at higher levels!
@@stjernholmreviews and how could you do this, create a v-shaped signature, in Room Perfect or the other software?
Hi, if I want to use it as a simple amplifier with vintage Monitor Audio floorstanders (no subs, preamp, or any additional stuff), will the 1120 do a good job? With Punchy and decent bass?
Hello Yaron! That is not something that is possible to determine like this. There is a very big possibility that Roomperfect will do a significant difference a room. The bass is always the biggest improvement. Thank you for watching the channel!
thanks for the incredibly detailed review. i have a TDAI-1120, and generally it is a complete amp. Yet, i would like to adjust the sound to a more of a "V sound signature." (I have old ears...)). However, it isn't clear to me how to do this using the 8 filters. Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can do this? Thanks.)))))
Daren, are you referring to a loudness curve, where you want to lift both bass and treble for lower level listening? You would simply goto the web UI, enter setup / voicing setup name a new voicing and click "add" and create it there. There is several ways to archive the result. One way, could be to set filter 1 to "parametric", select say, 1000 hz at the target frequency, and set a wide Q, try 0.5 and gain to -3. Then save the filter. You test it by loading the voicing like you normally would. If you want more, try with higher negative gain settings. You can also experiment with the center frequency (try 1500 hz) and the with by changing the Q value. The filter simply will dampen the mid frequencies in order to achieve what you are looking for. It can also be done by using low shelf and high shelf filters, but the way i just described is probably the easiest way. Let us know what you learned on your system. Thanks for watching the channel.
Great reviews. Could you comment or compare Cambridge Audio Evo 75 and 150 with this ?
Yes. Its in the making, just waiting for the review sample!
@@stjernholmreviews Can't wait for that! I'm compare NAD M10, Naim Uniti Atom and Evo. Then just notice about TDAI-1120. I think its features are impressive both for their app and also room perfect but it is not supported for Tidal Connect and I am not sure about Spotify connect ( I don't want to pay for Roon subscription)
@@Voravitl For the 1120 you got spotify connect and Tidal via chromecast.
@@stjernholmreviews It should support Tidal Connect. I am not sure about quality of chromcast vs tidal connect ( OK. without MQA in this consideration)
Hey, when I get a external phono amplifier that TDAI-1120 would be phantastic right ? I would use it with Dali opticon 2 mk 2 speakers and a Rega Planar 3. I want to listen to music via my turntable and Spotify
Maybe. It really depends on so many factors. Currently, I am actually testing two high-end turntables and different cartridges, - and it is crazy how different they sound. Sound is very subjective. It might be that the 1120 phono amp suits your style of music! So try it first, then try a external phono pre and see how you like it. If it does not give you a stronger emotional response to the music you love, you might be better off spending on a better cartridge or something else. Try it, and trust your experience! Let us know how it went here in the thread!
@@stjernholmreviews so I have to try. Do you think the Dali speakers will get along nicely with the device? Well Lyngdorf founded Dali so I Hope it works. The next hifi Shop with the Lyngdorf is quiet a bit of distance for my place: (
Hi,
Have you been able to test the Lyngdorf CD-2 with the 1120?
No, but I have played around with the CD2. Its a great player on is own, but feels like a bit wasteful with a digital amp to be honest. You will spend money on analog electronics rather than the transport.
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Thank you
If you have extremely sensitive speakers , is the amplifier still an issue? My speakers are 92 sensitive and I’ve used a 5 watt rube amp on them very enjoyably.
I have Zu Audio speakers.....
There is no issue as such with the rather powerful (120 watt into 4 ohms) amplifier. The sound COMPARISON with with my 10 times more expensive reference amplifier is what I am referring to in the review. As a package, the 1120 is a brilliant piece of kit, and will drive your speakers to the limit, without breaking a sweat :-)
Thank you. I watch all the reviewers and honestly I get more helpful and want I believe to be accurate information from you than I do any others.
Great review! Im looking for an amp for Dynaudio Evoke 20/Special 40
How this thing will compare with Denon 1600NE? I would rather get something with streaming capabilities.
You cant really compare them. I reviewed the denons big brother, and it sounds great. The lyngdorf offers something very different with the all digital approach, roomcorrection and amazing sophistication that will allow you to add subwoofers to your dynaudios to get a very powerfull system. So in terms of future proofing and versatility, I would go with the lyngdorf. If you want to go with something much more "classic" fat sounding and analog, the denon could be the perfect fit. TRY BOTH!
@@stjernholmreviews Thank you for your time sir! Lyngdorf indeed seems like a very interesting thing with a lot of tech built in. I think I will pull the trigger (Room correction is also highly praised).
My only concern is the power of TDAI-1120, Denon seems to be a more powerful amp, although my room is small and listening distance is only 7 feet.
Will try and see if I can get both of them.
@@RafaelGrigorian In practical use there will be extremely little difference in power. Remember, that you would need TWICE the power just to get 3db extra output. If you later on, decide to add one or two subwoofers later the lyngdorf will integrate them very well, and take the load of the dynaudios for the power hungry bass giving you way more output. Adding subs with this amp, is like growing your speakers :-)
@@stjernholmreviews Good to know thanks for the advice! I've read that both S40/Evoke 20 are power hungry (6ohm,86DB) speakers that need high current amp.
Appreciate your help!
@@RafaelGrigorian Thats not to bad at all. Remember, the 1120 delivers 120 watts into 4 ohms. Let us know your expirienced with the amps here in the comments! I would love to know what YOU think.
Very helpful review. Enjoyed your sense of humor in it. Would really like your opinion on how this device compares to NAD c399, Naim Uniti Atom and Marantz 40n.
Thanks for watching. I have not compared them side by side, and If I did, I would only be able to judge the basic neutral sound. The 112o cant really be compared due to its very unique features and sophistication than no of the other amps you mention come even close to. If you want to say, add subwoofers to your setup or if your room needs a helping hand.. Then the 1120 has so much more to offer. If not, I suggest you "just listen". Good luck finding your "amp soulmate"!
@@stjernholmreviews actually the c399 has Hdmi Arc as week, full bluOS integration and built-in Dirac Live room correction. So not sure why you're saying the Ly gdoef offers much more capabilities. Now I haven't listened to either and am actually debating which one to buy lol
@@clemleg123 I know it sounds like it is the same, but it is not. Far from it. The C399 is a great unit, no doubt. Here is the things to consider: 1) Subwoofer integration. The Lyngdorf does boundary subwoofer setups using two subs IN STEREO, allowing you to use very high crossovers. It offers many filter types as well as dedicated speaker EQ for each speaker, INCLUDING the subs. You can adjust the timing of each speaker, and ROOMPERFECT is very different from dirac in the way it approaches room correction (everything is covered in the lyngdorf videos). On top of it all, you have the 8 band voicing DSP available and the slickest remote app ever. I like Blusound as well, its very flexible but can be a little "flakey". Last, the price.. You get the nice Hypex amps with the NAD. If you need the extra 6 dBs of headroom they offer? The dirac and blusound is an option module on top of the price of the c399, so it will end up being at least 25% more expensive than the 1120. Main takeaway should be, that the C399 is way less sophisticated in the DSP features and cant match the daily user experience. So you need to weigh the other things in order to know what is right for you. Do you need / Use subs? Do you need the extra power with your speakers? How do you listen to music? Is blusound the right for you? Do your room need a lot of correction? ... and so on. Good luck.
@@stjernholmreviews good points. On price NAD is actually launching the C3050LE soon which will be £1799, hence cheaper than the Lyngdorf and yet have HDMI, Dirac etc. But the amp modules will be UdC as opposed to Ncore. And of course the looks are great with the vintage look and vu meters 😍😍
I really appreciate the “mmmm mmm I just want to lick it!” On some strange level it appealed to both the black and British in me. Subscribed! I’m sold on this amp and the kef ls50. The challenge is what, if anything, else do I need? Other than a technique turntable for my records.
Highly appreciated, DMD. Let us know how it went!
Hi, new subscriber to your channel. Would this be sufficient for my newly ordered(it will arrive in 3 days) Spatial Sapphire M4 open baffle speakers? Thanks.
There might be enough power, but I have no clue if the combo would be a good match in your room, with your listening preferences. That would require much more conversation and seeing your space.
Thank you, great review. I'm confused about one thing, excuse my ignorance -- if I use the TDAi-1120 as a pre-amp/streamer, and use my existing NAD as the power amp, do I still get all the benefits of the features? i.e. RoomPerfect, digital inputs, subwoofer connections, phono stage etc
Hello Leo. I did not make that clear in the video. Sorry. You loose the subwoofer functionality, as you use the intended outputs as pre-outs in that case. You still get all the other benefits.
@@stjernholmreviews Many thanks - apologies I just realised I'd asked the subwoofer question when I saw your other TDAi1120 vid. Great to have confirmation of Room Perfect and the other features, this merits serious consideration for me, cheers
@@leogooner7671 Feel free to share your experience here!
"...I just want to lick it..." lol, subbed just for the comedy, but good review as well.
If you upgrade the 1120's output caps with Jupitor .47uf wax/oil, bypass these with Dueland .01 silver, rewire the board to speaker terminals with gold/silver cable, doubled, apply lots of anti resonance stickers on the insides, some Mad scientist bits for RF, not forgetting the Mad Scientist graphene digital interconnect... you have a winner, at ANY price. I'm planning same for my 2 systems.. Siam and Vienna.. that over SE tubes and LKS DAC etc.
Can I connect a amplifier to this 1120 I know it’s an Integrated app
Check the review video! yes you can, indeed! I would use it like that, with a more interesting sounding power amp!
Oh and is it possible to use Room perfect even using it as only preamp?
Yes, indeed!
@@stjernholmreviews Wow so fast response, amazing!! I was watching one of your videos "feature deep dive" , and theres a part using it only as preamp. You used the full range Mode, but I Wonder if its also pissible to set all the crossover info, high an low pass filters etc...using it as I d like only as preamp.
Thanks 😀
@@alonsotoledo4304 Yes you could. But why would you? It is just a matter of keeping the volume set to "variable" . You can do whatever filtering you want using voicings, or you can setup permanent "speaker eq" BEFORE the applying a specific voicing. Check out the TDAI-3400 review for some graphics on the signal flow.
Ok , I m almost to buy the Lyngdorf, would u say that using it as preamp for a Musical Fidelity M5si would be a good match? Or not good enough amp to use with the Lyngdorf?
@@alonsotoledo4304 😄. I think you will prefer the M5si to drive the speakers. Unfortunately, it does not have a poweramp input, so the 1120 will need to be connected as a source. Listen to both combinations, and just listen.
Hej. Hvordan er RIAA delen i den?
Low Noise, bit tinny sounding. Tested with a Ortofon Black that is also a bit tinny. Try it with a fatty sounding warm cartridge, and you will most likely have a very decent balance. Thank you for watching!
Findes alle disse muligheder også på 2170 eren ??
Ja, næsten. Men der er intet webinterface og ingen custom voicings eller custom speaker EQ.
ja. Men ingen streaming og intet web GUI
Hi @@stjernholmreviews
I use Tdai-1120 as a streaming DAC.
How would you compare it to Hifi Rose Rs150 or Rs250.
I am Roon subscriber
@@haimsheffer5066 I dont think you can compare them as such. Itss two different classes of products. From a daily use standpoint, the 1120 is simplicity. Are you using Room Perfect and/or voicings? Is the 1120 used as a preamp as well?
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I use it as DAC and connect it to my Naim supernait 3 via RCA cables. I am Roon user. So all the fancy screens of Rose are less interesting to me.
I ask about sound quality. Will it be an upgrade to move to HIFI ROSE RS150b?
I cant realy put my finger on it, but when danes speek english, at times I cant tell if its danish or english
You are spot on with your observation. Danes have adapted english technical words, where the sweden and norway invented their own technical words. The danes were lazy that way! 😁. Just look up the word for "computer" in all three languages. 🤪. When the scandinavians meet, we danes often switch to english (even though its embarrasing) if the conversation gets to technical. Norwegian television made a really funny sketch about the phenomenon in english: th-cam.com/video/s-mOy8VUEBk/w-d-xo.html. enjoy!
@@stjernholmreviews defently, but the youth have adopted alot more english into their, normal everyday language, Great review non the less ;)
This or the naim atom?
Totally depends on what is most important to you. The Lyngdorf is on another planet when looking at the possibilities for sound tailoring and subwoofer integration.
If tone control and EQ can’t be controlled on the app then it’s of no use to me.
That is just keeping the app limited to what you need in daily life. If you want to dig in, you just open the webinterface and you can nerd away like no other. That you can also do just using the browser on your device.
@@stjernholmreviews Yes I learned from a Lyngdorf video that you don’t need to use a computer you can simply open the browser site on your iPad.
Wordy and unclear analysis. Review Contains some good points, but they are sporadic. Hard to get a good picture of reviewed gear.
den er overpriced
Please expand on the statement to highten the IQ level of the conversation. Anything else out there, that can do what it does in a easy to use package, since you make that statement?