Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s BS. These simple little pots repeated have a wonderful stillness and calm about them. Focus on the clarity, the colour, the shapes and shadows they cast and you get drawn in and comforted ina chaotic world. They’re somehow rooted. He acknowledges the privilege of being able to spend your days creating like this. A wonderful artist.
Wasting time and knowing it. It’s close to being brave enough to ‘use’ time. Hypnotic melancholic Proustian meandering. More valuable than watching the Sopranos.
I think I understand what he is meaning to do. But, there is a but: I have seen japanese master poters like Master Kumagae Yasuo- what a deep, profound difference. De Waal works with porcellan clay which is totally different from rough clay with fireclay like old japaenes pottery masters. It is a different spirit, I know. When you make irregulare forms with porcellane, which is- of course- possible, it requires a different way of breathing and holding your breath while you cut away something. Watch japanese masters- pottery, way of the brush, fans of bamboo and rice paper- name what ever you like- the approach is different from that you see observing de Waal. He did not grew in the spirit of clay. In an auction in Gotenburg in Sweden I watched a chinese bowl of porcellan, some 400 years old. In this moment it was the absolute most perfect tea bowl I have ever seen in my entire life. It was absolutely perfect, it was the most idea of a form holding 2 mouthful of tea, in silence. This chinese bowl was the most silent thing I have ever seen in my long life. Time held its brath.- I´m very sorry- de Waal who is a very fine man, is to me not a master. There is no silence in his work. Please look on minute 1:16 He makes a collection of some 2 x 49 drinking cups. The only tension comes from the tension between 2x49 different half made cups. When you take from that collection just 1 single cup- it is poor. No silence, no profound devotion. Sorry.
"the exhibition is full of vessels, it’s full of repeated vessels. that’s the expression of time, spending time with repeating." --- as he said in other place, everything is going to fragmentary. you wanna make something beautiful and excellent but you also wanna keep the "lost" parts. I love all his pots, they do look similar but he made a strong point. that's the hours, times that we all share that matters to nobody but everybody. it has nothing to do with this outside word but the inner part of all of us. "it’s about thinking through very very hard about what is the presence of objects? and why objects matter so much. and sometimes objects can be blurred and they can be more powerful because they are not absolutely in focus." "Every objects has been touched and actually full of touch. so you look at them and you see “touch”. it’s still there, it’s just different. "--apparently connects to his "Hare", the netsukes. can't agree more. strongly connects to my personal thinkings and feelings these days. It is sensual and touching.
i've never gotten de Waal's work - if you feel like you get it on that level, can you explain what it means to you (Jane Wu did a great job below) - because I'm interested
it's about basic aesthetics I believe, but its all about personal interpretation (What it means to you). As a ceramic artists myself I love making pottery, and I love the beautiful look when the light reflects away from the surface of a glazed cylinder, with de Waal's work it's so fluid and numerous (he has literally makes a lot of pots), lots and lots and lots and lots. And that's another aspect, it's the love of the medium he works with and its about the time one puts into it I believe.For me it looks amazing, it really brings forth the often unseen qualities of porcelain which is more explored in places like Korea and China. Porcelain melts a lot anyway so glaze tend to stick beautifully and even fuse with the ware. :-) I don't know if this was helpful or not, hehe, I guess it's more of what I see when I look at it. and I know a lot of good ceramics who think the opposite, I would go as far as to call this type of ceramics and porcelain a distinctive form of school within ceramics. :-)
i just keep imagining some lady in a small country somewhere making hundreds of beautiful well crafted pots every day for nickels ... still, better than koons
Does anyone think that a art and design gallery for homeless people could work people donate art for people all funds raised could pay for a house I've been volunteering for a homeless charity for the past three years this could do so much lots of people who I've met have jobs on low wages help this could work
Maybe rich middle class poseurs like de Waal could give some of their money to such a project rather than paying expensive private school fees or buying villas in Tuscany. ?
Lots of artists are self absorbed. Artists are just human. I don't think his work is revolutionary. At the same time, he is not stealing from me. I forgive his or any artist's self absorption because there are people far worse than a harmless self absorbed artist. Its OK. *Peace*
What does industrial production have to do with self-absorption? And how is this artist's production different than any of the other artist's who are featured in this BBC series? You could say Picasso was definitely self-absorbed, but who cares when he contributed so much to art history? Being absorbed within the self is an essential part of the artistic process.
Sometimes repetition creates a meditative state, which can be a beautiful place. From an artistic perspective, repeated forms can create an intriguing image when put all together.
Well, he gets to make his art all day, every day and museums show his work. To me, that's a great accomplishment that not many creative people can boast.
Ron Willcox now now don’t denigrate things you clearly don’t understand. I suggest you get out there , go to galleries , read about him and other artists- open your eyes , or just don’t watch this if it’s not for you .
👍 ....at last ! Someone who sees through the whole hypocritical charade of the privileged middle class " Artist "........just wait for the usual. ". Yes......but you don't understand it " brigade to respond. I see a couple already...
Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s BS. These simple little pots repeated have a wonderful stillness and calm about them. Focus on the clarity, the colour, the shapes and shadows they cast and you get drawn in and comforted ina chaotic world. They’re somehow rooted. He acknowledges the privilege of being able to spend your days creating like this. A wonderful artist.
Beautiful, inspiring film about an artist who creates zen-like installations by grouping hundreds of his hand-thrown pots.
Wasting time and knowing it. It’s close to being brave enough to ‘use’ time. Hypnotic melancholic Proustian meandering. More valuable than watching the Sopranos.
Watching this guy works reminds me of the remark about jazz, "if you make a mistake, just repeat it."
I think I understand what he is meaning to do. But, there is a but: I have seen japanese master poters like Master Kumagae Yasuo- what a deep, profound difference. De Waal works with porcellan clay which is totally different from rough clay with fireclay like old japaenes pottery masters. It is a different spirit, I know. When you make irregulare forms with porcellane, which is- of course- possible, it requires a different way of breathing and holding your breath while you cut away something. Watch japanese masters- pottery, way of the brush, fans of bamboo and rice paper- name what ever you like- the approach is different from that you see observing de Waal. He did not grew in the spirit of clay. In an auction in Gotenburg in Sweden I watched a chinese bowl of porcellan, some 400 years old. In this moment it was the absolute most perfect tea bowl I have ever seen in my entire life. It was absolutely perfect, it was the most idea of a form holding 2 mouthful of tea, in silence. This chinese bowl was the most silent thing I have ever seen in my long life. Time held its brath.- I´m very sorry- de Waal who is a very fine man, is to me not a master. There is no silence in his work. Please look on minute 1:16 He makes a collection of some 2 x 49 drinking cups. The only tension comes from the tension between 2x49 different half made cups. When you take from that collection just 1 single cup- it is poor. No silence, no profound devotion. Sorry.
How much more zen/austere can his studio get? I love this mellow dude! He just needs to make things.......
what is the chinese poem he speaks of 6:00 ?
Does anyone know what music is used t 1:18?
You wouldn't want to interrupt him mid-sentence, would you?
"the exhibition is full of vessels, it’s full of repeated vessels. that’s the expression of time, spending time with repeating." --- as he said in other place, everything is going to fragmentary. you wanna make something beautiful and excellent but you also wanna keep the "lost" parts. I love all his pots, they do look similar but he made a strong point. that's the hours, times that we all share that matters to nobody but everybody. it has nothing to do with this outside word but the inner part of all of us.
"it’s about thinking through very very hard about what is the presence of objects? and why objects matter so much. and sometimes objects can be blurred and they can be more powerful because they are not absolutely in focus."
"Every objects has been touched and actually full of touch. so you look at them and you see “touch”. it’s still there, it’s just different. "--apparently connects to his "Hare", the netsukes.
can't agree more. strongly connects to my personal thinkings and feelings these days. It is sensual and touching.
Yes it is a very meditative & grounding process. If all of us in the world followed a practice like this, the world would be a better place.
Alternatively : H C Anderson's The Emperor's New Clothes explains it more clearly .
i've never gotten de Waal's work - if you feel like you get it on that level, can you explain what it means to you (Jane Wu did a great job below) - because I'm interested
it's about basic aesthetics I believe, but its all about personal interpretation (What it means to you). As a ceramic artists myself I love making pottery, and I love the beautiful look when the light reflects away from the surface of a glazed cylinder, with de Waal's work it's so fluid and numerous (he has literally makes a lot of pots), lots and lots and lots and lots. And that's another aspect, it's the love of the medium he works with and its about the time one puts into it I believe.For me it looks amazing, it really brings forth the often unseen qualities of porcelain which is more explored in places like Korea and China. Porcelain melts a lot anyway so glaze tend to stick beautifully and even fuse with the ware. :-)
I don't know if this was helpful or not, hehe, I guess it's more of what I see when I look at it. and I know a lot of good ceramics who think the opposite, I would go as far as to call this type of ceramics and porcelain a distinctive form of school within ceramics. :-)
whats the name of that machine for to make that ?
A wheel. Or a potter's wheel.
I can draw. I can paint. But I CANNOT throw!
I have a wonderful book Called THE HARE WITH AMBER EYES.
Tedious navel gazing drivel .
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i just keep imagining some lady in a small country somewhere making hundreds of beautiful well crafted pots every day for nickels ... still, better than koons
Terry Del Percio Jeff is an artist look him up
I like this guy.
I cannot throw 😭
This is a bit meh
Does anyone think that a art and design gallery for homeless people could work people donate art for people all funds raised could pay for a house I've been volunteering for a homeless charity for the past three years this could do so much lots of people who I've met have jobs on low wages help this could work
Maybe rich middle class poseurs like de Waal could give some of their money to such a project rather than paying expensive private school fees or buying villas in Tuscany. ?
Such a rude thumbnail.
it's actually worse than industrial
just total self absorbtion
Lots of artists are self absorbed. Artists are just human. I don't think his work is revolutionary. At the same time, he is not stealing from me. I forgive his or any artist's self absorption because there are people far worse than a harmless self absorbed artist. Its OK. *Peace*
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What does industrial production have to do with self-absorption? And how is this artist's production different than any of the other artist's who are featured in this BBC series? You could say Picasso was definitely self-absorbed, but who cares when he contributed so much to art history? Being absorbed within the self is an essential part of the artistic process.
this guy is trippin on LSD
BUT HIS POTA ALL LOOK THE SAME-=-BORING!
Sometimes repetition creates a meditative state, which can be a beautiful place. From an artistic perspective, repeated forms can create an intriguing image when put all together.
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this men wants 500 000 pounds for each tube, only because he sells to Roschildes !!! No talent there!!!
He churns out pots and calls it Art, is that it?
Open mindedness is a virtue
MultiSculpt yes it is
His " novels " are actually worse ...!
zzzzzz..
More BS
Well, he gets to make his art all day, every day and museums show his work. To me, that's a great accomplishment that not many creative people can boast.
lmaoooooooooooo
He said "its about spending time" …………………...more like wasting time for 1000 hours...…………...………….totally pretentios arty farty bollocks
Hi Ron- for a tiny bit of insight- read the introduction to his book The Hare With Amber Eyes. Or In Praise of Shadows by Tanizaki.
Ron Willcox now now don’t denigrate things you clearly don’t understand. I suggest you get out there , go to galleries , read about him and other artists- open your eyes , or just don’t watch this if it’s not for you .
👍 ....at last ! Someone who sees through the whole hypocritical charade of the privileged middle class " Artist "........just wait for the usual. ". Yes......but you don't understand it " brigade to respond.
I see a couple already...