Perhaps Dowland's greatest masterpiece! Amazing chromaticism, with dark, intense emotion sustained throughout. Seems to anticipate some of Bach's abstract compositions in the Well tempered clavier and The Art of the Fugue.
I agree with Carlo Stringhi, an outstanding performance: beautiful sound, clear and very sensitive played counterpoint, very natural and moving phrasing which goes deep into the feeling of the listener and a great recording by Uros: it's just a pleasure to listen to it, grazie anche da parte mia.
Teacher Bor, this Interpretation of Forlorn Hope goes in my perception beyond Early Music trends, and conveys crystal clear polyphonic textures. It opened to me a whole different window to John Dowland as well as Elizabethan repertoire. Last but not least, I found a Forlorn Hope. Immensely grateful!
@@borzuljan7713 ko sem hotel prijatelju poslati ta link, sem videl, da sem pritisnil obratno od Všeč mi je. To se mi še ni zgodilo, da bi kliknil obratno kot sem nameraval. Sem se čutil dolžnega ti pojasniti to nenamerno zagato. Sicer pa - way to go!
Very well played. The fact that you can hear trhe descending chromaatic line, which I think is one of the most terrifying sounding motifs in music, is somerhing very few players can bring out and you do it with such feeling and passion. Keep up the good work This shows why lute pieces should be played on the instrument for which they were conceived.
Lovely playing and it's good to see you're playing a decent-sized lute! Looks like a Venere C36, one of my favourite models. It shows how a string length of about 67cm is no problem to play (as many people fear) and gives great flexibility to the sound.
Thanks Martin! Yes, in fact it is a Venere 1582, one of my favorite models as well. It is not easy to play these pieces on it, but totally worth the effort. The sound possibilities are so much greater!
Beautiful performance. How do you rate the lute your using by Jiri Cepelak? I hear he makes great Lutes and one of the best luthiers in Europe, is this true?
Thank you! I love Cepelak's instruments and I have several, they are for sure among my favorites. They can easily compete with instruments that sometimes cost 3-4 times as much. And he's a very nice person as well. Highly recommended !!!
Excellent ! This piece is for " Masters of the lute " ... Your playing reminds me the great Julian Bream without whom I would never have played the Renaissance lute. All the best
Actually I like this performance a bit better than Bream's, because Bream just blows through the last four lines too fast. He doesn't flub any notes, but to me it seems Bream's rapid pace sacrifices clarity, and this performance gets it it a bit more right.
Thanks Andre, I appreciate your enthusiasm! But I understand also that not everybody likes it ... and not everybody is ready to accept more colors, phrasing and expressivity in connection to (Renaissance) lute and early music in general. Different interpretations for different people! ;)
@@borzuljan7713 I think that the title alone: Forlorne Hope Fancy, is indication enough in itself that this piece requires expressivity and colors: to me, they are the musical equivalent of all the tools that can be used in rhetorics in literature, and your use of them is quite extraordinary, and literally brings the piece to life.
Some people talked about pain in the right hand, I would say it could be much more a matter of muscles for the left hand due to the wide open positions... And I read like it is a lute with 66,7cm Vendelio Venere? It is also tuned in F isn't it? (absolute ears are actually a problem for this kind of early music with different instruments in differents sizes and pitches 😅) Thanks for this performance!! Where is this piece? In any manuscript somewhere?
I am completely in awe of your mastery!. I cannot express how you have thrust me into another realm. This is simply divine in every possible way. Your intensity, your focus and phrasing... my God. Can you please tell me who made your Lute? Respectfully Sir.
bravi! Excellent rendition of a forbiddingly difficult piece. In fact this may well be the best version I heard so far. Also very pleased to see a consequent correct position of the right hand, unfortunately quite rare still. A little too much reverb for such intimate music.
do you or did you ever experience pain from the positioning of the right hand? I wonder if this could be adapted to nailless classical guitar...? Beautiful work.
@@borzuljan7713 I've experimented with playing with my thumb under on classical guitar and I've found it... awkward, especially for some positions. Some picking patterns where the thumb has to rest stroke from the d string to the g while plucking the g with the forefinger, do seem to cause strain and I dont know if this is avoidable on guitar. ive also found the position to feel less dexterous than something closer to classical guitar right hand technique. Thanks for replying by the way.
@@sebastiansullivan4770 I have a student who can't have long enough nails to use them with classical guitar. She plays like this and it looks very comfortable. I also tried playing in this position; I think you have to hold the guitar at a different angle and when the body of the guitar is slightly higher than we are normally used to it automatically becomes the most comfortable position. Pain because of playing an instrument isn't good by the way, try to find someone who can help you find a healthy position.
@@thethingonlymalehave i have since changed my technique to standard classical style with nails. I may go back to experimentation in the future when I have a better foundation. I agree about pain. I think the issue was always more to do with not isolating passages and adressing tensions/technical deficiences. I would always just play the peice all the way through. I would feel tired and beat up after 15 minutes. Now I work on each passage in a methodical way, treating them all like individual exercises, using the metronome. Things are going extremely well now I feel. everytime i play i sound better! my hands are stronger and more relaxed. I can finally enjoy learning music :)
hello Bor, once again , thankyou for your mastery. I have sent two emails to Jiri regarding this instrument and have yet to hear from him. Can you tell me if he is away or if there is an issue with his contact information as I would very much like to have him make this Lute for me. I am in Canada, and there are very few makers that match the mastery of his instruments.. With Thanks in advance.
Jiři sometimes takes time with answering and I think he has quite a long waiting list now. Maybe write again if he still didn't answer. But there are also really amazing makers in Canada! (Tomlinson, Carey, Van Berkel...)
@@borzuljan7713 je suis guitariste depuis plus 30 ans, je joue et j'ai toujours beaucoup joué avec le temps je recherche des sons plus profond, bas et des cordes nylon. j'hésite entre le 10 chœurs, le 13 chœurs et maintenant le 8 plus gros que tu joues ici, pourrais tu me conseiller? Merci
@@borzuljan7713 I've been a guitarist for over 30 years, I play and I've always played a lot over time I'm looking for deeper, low sounds and nylon strings. I hesitate between the 10 choirs, the 13 choirs and now the biggest 8 that you play here
@@luciocosta34 les grands instruments ouvrent beaucoup les possibilités, couleurs, résonnances. Il faudrait surtout penser à la musique que tu veux jouer - entre le 8 et le 13 choeurs il y a beaucoup de différence (150 ans et un autre accord). Le 10 choeurs peut éventuellement laisser l'option de jouer la musique de la Renaissance mais ouvre les possibilités vers la musique du 17e aussi...
So badass, and you make being bald look good, too. God bless you sir.
¡¡¡Pero qué pedazo de obra!!! Dowland es de otro planeta....¡¡Hermosa interpretación!!
Wonderful performance, the melofic line so defined 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤
Sounds in some places like 21 century music 😮❤
Dowland was so far ahead of his time. This is extraordinary performance; superb tone, well turned phrases. Bravo.
Thank you! And yes, this music is amazing!
Genial obra!
Insuperable interpretación!
Congratulations!!
Beautiful! Lute music and esp. Dowlands music has healing virtues, as has the one who plays it.
Thank you! Glad you like it!
Dowland was ahead of his own time!
Amazing performance! Congratulations!
Gracias!
And beautiful camera work too!
Perhaps Dowland's greatest masterpiece! Amazing chromaticism, with dark, intense emotion sustained throughout. Seems to anticipate some of Bach's abstract compositions in the Well tempered clavier and The Art of the Fugue.
extraordinary playing!!!thank you for sharing you're unique talent on TH-cam!
Thank you!
I was just casually surfing around, but this grabbed me and absolutely stunned me... Thankyou for sharing
Thank you !
I would like to comment, but i can‘t find words for this 😊
You just found them! And if it smells of duende, then I'm really glad ... thank you ! ;)
I agree with Carlo Stringhi, an outstanding performance: beautiful sound, clear and very sensitive played counterpoint, very natural and moving phrasing which goes deep into the feeling of the listener and a great recording by Uros: it's just a pleasure to listen to it, grazie anche da parte mia.
Grazie!
Teacher Bor, this Interpretation of Forlorn Hope goes in my perception beyond Early Music trends, and conveys crystal clear polyphonic textures. It opened to me a whole different window to John Dowland as well as Elizabethan repertoire. Last but not least, I found a Forlorn Hope. Immensely grateful!
Thank you Luciano!
Esecuzione superlativa! Tra le migliori interpretazioni di questa straordinaria composizione che si siano mai sentite. Grazie davvero
Grazie a lei!
forlorn hope...... yes, but its flaming tune gives back all hope! Bravo Bor!
Thanks!
Fantastic. As usual...
Grazie!
sweet job
Nice playing
Thank you!
Excelente! Hermoso! Cantato ! Viruossisimo !
Gracias, contento que te guste, querido!
Beautiful performance!
thank you!
A Beautiful Performance. Wonderful Sound And Playing. Marvellous ! Many Thanks.
Thank you!
wow, this is deep ! thank you Bor Zuljan, great performance ! there is a spirit in that music !
Thanks!
Wonderful. Thank you.
Thank you!
Very pleasant to see such a emotional performance being done on an instrument by fabulous Jiří Čepelák! Thank you!
Thank you!
Wonderful performance and excellent clarity in the recording. 👌👌👌
Thank you!
VERY nice performance! Thank you.
thank you!
Outstanding power and beauty in this performance. Thank you.
A pleasure!
Thank you very much!
Perfect, a joy for the ears!!
thanks!
Brilliant!
Thanks!
Brilliant playing!!!
Thank you!
Dear Bor, real ear candy music... Ear Candy means a pleasure for the ears. Thank you.... Brian
thank you!
Very very nice playing. Congrats. You and the lute are a perfect match.
Thank you!
absolutely outstanding.
thanks!!!
Superb performance!
thanks!
Beautifully played!
Thank you!
Excellent , quelle musique!!!!
merci!
Beautiful piece of music!! Amazing and inspired performance!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!
wow! really lovely!!!
Thanks!
I've been playing it since 2015, but seing you play without looking at the tablature......my respects! Congratulations!
thanks!
Wonderful. Superb playing and a lovely recording.
thanks!
Magnifique !
merci!
Bravo, Bor! You are a truly master and a source of inspiration for me. Your performance is superb.
Thank you!
Very nice playing, Thanks !
Thank you!
Fantastic playing and sound!! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Splendid!
Thank you !
Bravo!
Thanks!
@@borzuljan7713 ko sem hotel prijatelju poslati ta link, sem videl, da sem pritisnil obratno od Všeč mi je. To se mi še ni zgodilo, da bi kliknil obratno kot sem nameraval. Sem se čutil dolžnega ti pojasniti to nenamerno zagato. Sicer pa - way to go!
@@sebastian.sem.9 hvala, ni problema! ;)
With Dowland, always pay attention to what's happening behind the soundboard.
...behind the soundboard? :)
Beautiful
thank you!
Excellent performance and very beautiful sound! Bravo! :)
Thanks!
fantastic playing!
Thank you!
I found an interesting explanation of the expression "forlorn hope" here www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/forlorn-hope.html
Mesmerizing!!
thanks!!!
Sei un grande!!!
Grazie!! ;)
excellent
Thanks!
Super!
thanks!
Perfetto
grazie!
bravo!!
Merci!
Very well played. The fact that you can hear trhe descending chromaatic line, which I think is one of the most terrifying sounding motifs in music, is somerhing very few players can bring out and you do it with such feeling and passion. Keep up the good work This shows why lute pieces should be played on the instrument for which they were conceived.
thank you for your kind words!
What a fantastic performance! You've just got yourself an new subscriber. :)
Cheers,
Wilson
thanks!
Lovely playing and it's good to see you're playing a decent-sized lute! Looks like a Venere C36, one of my favourite models. It shows how a string length of about 67cm is no problem to play (as many people fear) and gives great flexibility to the sound.
Thanks Martin! Yes, in fact it is a Venere 1582, one of my favorite models as well. It is not easy to play these pieces on it, but totally worth the effort. The sound possibilities are so much greater!
just out of curiosity, what is the string length on this particular instrument? is it 67cm as Martin suggests?
Hi, It's 66,5cm... a big instrument, but totally worth the extra effort ;)
Bor Zuljan i can see some reach-y bits - definitely a work-out! :-D sounds amazing! thanks for sharing!!!
Beautiful performance.
How do you rate the lute your using by Jiri Cepelak? I hear he makes great Lutes and one of the best luthiers in Europe, is this true?
Thank you! I love Cepelak's instruments and I have several, they are for sure among my favorites. They can easily compete with instruments that sometimes cost 3-4 times as much. And he's a very nice person as well. Highly recommended !!!
WOW! :-)
:)
Excellent ! This piece is for " Masters of the lute " ... Your playing reminds me the great Julian Bream without whom I would never have played the Renaissance lute.
All the best
Actually I like this performance a bit better than Bream's, because Bream just blows through the last four lines too fast. He doesn't flub any notes, but to me it seems Bream's rapid pace sacrifices clarity, and this performance gets it it a bit more right.
Though Bream is a wonderful player, I like your performance much more because of the profound depths of emotion you express.
6 idiots gave this a thumb down. If this isn't superb playing at the very highest level, I don't know what is.
Thanks Andre, I appreciate your enthusiasm! But I understand also that not everybody likes it ... and not everybody is ready to accept more colors, phrasing and expressivity in connection to (Renaissance) lute and early music in general. Different interpretations for different people! ;)
@@borzuljan7713 I think that the title alone: Forlorne Hope Fancy, is indication enough in itself that this piece requires expressivity and colors: to me, they are the musical equivalent of all the tools that can be used in rhetorics in literature, and your use of them is quite extraordinary, and literally brings the piece to life.
Some people talked about pain in the right hand, I would say it could be much more a matter of muscles for the left hand due to the wide open positions... And I read like it is a lute with 66,7cm Vendelio Venere? It is also tuned in F isn't it? (absolute ears are actually a problem for this kind of early music with different instruments in differents sizes and pitches 😅) Thanks for this performance!! Where is this piece? In any manuscript somewhere?
I am completely in awe of your mastery!. I cannot express how you have thrust me into another realm. This is simply divine in every possible way. Your intensity, your focus and phrasing... my God. Can you please tell me who made your Lute? Respectfully Sir.
Thank you!! I am glad it touches you so deeply! The lute was made by Jiri Cepelak in Prague.
@@borzuljan7713 Thankyou, can you send me the website information to order one of his instruments. I would love to have an 8 course Lute from him.
@@borzuljan7713 Thankyou Bor, can you tell me which model this is? It's so incredible. Thankyou.
It's his Venere 1582 model, 66,5cm, tuned to F.
@@borzuljan7713 Thankyou. I have contacted him and hope to hear back about ordering that Lute.
bravi! Excellent rendition of a forbiddingly difficult piece. In fact this may well be the best version I heard so far. Also very pleased to see a consequent correct position of the right hand, unfortunately quite rare still. A little too much reverb for such intimate music.
Thanks! Maybe you'll like my CD "Dowland - A Fancy" (with much reverb as well...sorry ;)
do you or did you ever experience pain from the positioning of the right hand? I wonder if this could be adapted to nailless classical guitar...?
Beautiful work.
No, no pain... why?
@@borzuljan7713 I've experimented with playing with my thumb under on classical guitar and I've found it... awkward, especially for some positions. Some picking patterns where the thumb has to rest stroke from the d string to the g while plucking the g with the forefinger, do seem to cause strain and I dont know if this is avoidable on guitar. ive also found the position to feel less dexterous than something closer to classical guitar right hand technique.
Thanks for replying by the way.
@@sebastiansullivan4770 I have a student who can't have long enough nails to use them with classical guitar. She plays like this and it looks very comfortable.
I also tried playing in this position; I think you have to hold the guitar at a different angle and when the body of the guitar is slightly higher than we are normally used to it automatically becomes the most comfortable position.
Pain because of playing an instrument isn't good by the way, try to find someone who can help you find a healthy position.
@@thethingonlymalehave i have since changed my technique to standard classical style with nails. I may go back to experimentation in the future when I have a better foundation.
I agree about pain. I think the issue was always more to do with not isolating passages and adressing tensions/technical deficiences. I would always just play the peice all the way through. I would feel tired and beat up after 15 minutes.
Now I work on each passage in a methodical way, treating them all like individual exercises, using the metronome.
Things are going extremely well now I feel. everytime i play i sound better! my hands are stronger and more relaxed. I can finally enjoy learning music :)
What is the mensur and model and woods of this lute? I like the big sound!
This lute is AMAZING, it's a Venere 1582, 66,5cm, by Jiři Čepelák. The ribs are from shaded plumwood.
hello Bor, once again , thankyou for your mastery. I have sent two emails to Jiri regarding this instrument and have yet to hear from him. Can you tell me if he is away or if there is an issue with his contact information as I would very much like to have him make this Lute for me. I am in Canada, and there are very few makers that match the mastery of his instruments.. With Thanks in advance.
Jiři sometimes takes time with answering and I think he has quite a long waiting list now. Maybe write again if he still didn't answer. But there are also really amazing makers in Canada! (Tomlinson, Carey, Van Berkel...)
Hello, please Say me who many "chœurs" /cours have your luth? Thanks, i would like one like this. Thanks
It's a 8-course lute, but quite a big one (67cm string length)
Merci beaucoup, thanks a lot. Musicalement
@@borzuljan7713 je suis guitariste depuis plus 30 ans, je joue et j'ai toujours beaucoup joué avec le temps je recherche des sons plus profond, bas et des cordes nylon. j'hésite entre le 10 chœurs, le 13 chœurs et maintenant le 8 plus gros que tu joues ici, pourrais tu me conseiller? Merci
@@borzuljan7713
I've been a guitarist for over 30 years, I play and I've always played a lot over time I'm looking for deeper, low sounds and nylon strings. I hesitate between the 10 choirs, the 13 choirs and now the biggest 8 that you play here
@@luciocosta34 les grands instruments ouvrent beaucoup les possibilités, couleurs, résonnances. Il faudrait surtout penser à la musique que tu veux jouer - entre le 8 et le 13 choeurs il y a beaucoup de différence (150 ans et un autre accord). Le 10 choeurs peut éventuellement laisser l'option de jouer la musique de la Renaissance mais ouvre les possibilités vers la musique du 17e aussi...
can anyone tell me how many lute-nists are in the world today????
Wonderfull..but..am i in a 'Fraiser joke'..!
Thanks...but...?
Dowland? On the first notes, i would say Bach! Impress
jazz in 17 century ?
Beautiful
Thank you