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Great video as usual but The keyword in the video- flexibility. For the streaming lovers and speaker wire haters 😂 Unfortunately, I am a passive fan, I equate them to soundbars or primary lifestyle options as opposed to hi fi. HDMI is something they really need to work on, seen and heard many issues with connectivity and reliability in powered speakers. but for a pair of Fives in Australia which retail past $1100, you can buy a decent AVR and a pair of great passive speakers across the range that hit high volumes well. Also… have to say it: A pair of Sonos speakers. 😂
I've owned the Fives for over a year now, and my grills still look great. I do agree that you need to tone down the bass on the Fives for a more natural sound.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews After installing the app, the subwoofer output of the Fives seemed to be greatly increased, so I had to readjust all my bass settings again.
I’ve had mine for about a year also, and I also say the grills are fine. Maybe Andrew and Kristi had an early review unit that had the issue that was later resolved with mass shipments? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder the same thing. I’ve had mine for 16 months and they still look great. I use them in my office at work and they’re great for that, especially at the price I paid. I tend to prefer a more neutral sound so I might really like the new SVS speakers, but adjusted The Fives are pretty good. And their flexibility and value are fantastic.
I get the biggest kick out of the contrast between these two. Andrew choses his words so cautiously and speaks with a grace comparable to a fine ballet dancer. Krissy (SP) has all the grace of a long haul truck driver who won't waste anyones time with unnecessary words, or PC. Nice balance guys.
The fives , subwoofer out feature. Hdmi with cec and arc, and phono in. Great product for the money. Seems more flexible and better option than most soundbars. Thanks your channel.
I just bought the fives after a-b testing with similar options. As a matter of fact: just by today, I put their box in the cellar, because I finally made a choice. That said - I wouldn’t have chosen them, if it weren’t for the App. Bass was much to bloated and treble was off, as well. Other ones, I tested were much better with percussion and/or imaging and instrument separation. And with some more complex tracks, the Klipsch seem to brake down, a little - even at low-er volumes. But and that’s a big B: They just sound phenomenal with voices, are easy to live with (after adjustment), very flexible, and can play many genres of music in an equal fashion. And tuned in, they project a large stage with clear centered voice without any harshness. Therefore, they can do movies, podcasts, vinyl, Bluetooth in a pleasing way without any problems. Yes, they won’t detail much and on some tracks, I still miss some refinement. But that’s what I have my Headphones for. And though I do plan on getting a more refined setup, they would still fit well in the office/gaming room.
Recently got the SVS Prime Pros with a 300 Micro sub and the combo is stunning. That little sub is shockingly good, and when blended properly to where it seems like everything is coming from the speakers… my goodness, it is a wonderful sound reproduction. I was initially interested in the Klipsch’s because of the automatic high pass filter to the main speakers when a sub is connected, so they can open up the mids more without having to fight for the low end. SVS includes that feature as well, and their app for managing every aspect of the sub is extremely convenient, so they knocked it out of the park for what I wanted. Not to mention the HDMI eArc! Perfect for a soundbar use case. Also, the 6 preset buttons on the front and the remote are a hilariously innovative feature. You can match them to any Spotify playlist, or a podcast, etc.. just like an old school radio, how cool is that?! Agreed, wish they came in a wood finish, but I went with the white for now and am enjoying that look. And I also grabbed the wireless adapter they sell for the sub, that made placement a breeze like I’ve never experienced. Thanks for another fun video from you two! Keep it going.
Do these control easily with arc-cec and TV remote(power and volume)? Looking for a seamless soundbar replacement. Do voice and action sounds mix well.... Or do you constantly need to increase and decrease volume depending on scenes?
I think SVS has an important feature none of the others have: streaming with the big 3 - Chromecast, Spotify Connect and Airplay. No need to buy an expensive BluesoundNode which is overpriced and doesn't include Chromecast which is quite valuable to Android users.
Bluesound software sucks!!! Just terrible! Luckily I got my NAD Master 10 at a steal of $500. But I'll never pay full price for anything with Bluesound built in.
Glad the YU6 got an honourable mention ...as picked up a set two weeks ago.. Setting up a home office currently with a vinyl focussed bookshelf system. Sounds good .....but looking to add a sub for added punch
Cool roundup guys! Personally speaking, I’ve had The Fives for a year or so and my grills look the same way they did on day 1. As you say, maybe yours were an earlier design?
I own the Fives. Came tight and still look good. Finish is the last thing I care about. Also the sub out needs to be a consideration. Everyone will connect a 200 buck sub at least. At $450 currently?
Do these control easily with arc-cec and TV remote(power and volume)? Looking for a seamless soundbar replacement. Do voice and action sounds mix well.... Or do you constantly need to increase and decrease volume depending on scenes?
Are all the speakers with HDMI input arc(cec) compatible with volume and power control? I read that it's a pain to manually switch these on and off and can lead to longevity issues if not
Are you guys able to do a video similar to this one but for home theater bookshelf monitors? Over my soundbar and looking to get into the game but have no clue where to start. Thanks!!! Keep up the awesome videos!
Ah, I don't know, I like SVS's piano white finishes. I have SVS Ultra bookshelves speakers in my theater with the piano white finish and they look cool. My surrounds and atmos on ceiling speakers are the plain black ash finish and those are so generic. Now I wouldn't mind if they had satin white like Arendal's satin white. What worries me the most about the SVS prime wireless is the DTS Play-fi app. I wish it was better. On a different note, this has been one of my favorite youtube channels in the last couple of years. I've gotten a lot from it, from knowledge about products I want to know more about, good tips, and great opinions. But I gotta say, the best thing I got from this channel is Lady Blackbird. You guys mention them a lot in your reviews. So, last night, I fired up Qobuz, did a little search, and damn! Holy #$@&!!! I listened to Blackbird 5 straight times before I tried out other songs. Each one, I just kept saying "damn!". I was up late listening. I just gotta say, thaaaaank you!
Sweet video. For my particularly odd use case though I would like a little more info. I would like to have some speakers for my gaming computer(complete with flashing lights). It needs to be able also have a decent dac/amp for headphones too. Looks wise wood veneer doesn't really go. I thought of getting an amp like the emotiva with both and some passive speakers, but after seeing this I am now considering maybe going this route instead.
When we filmed this a few days ago, the press release for the new SVS was listed at MSRP is $799.99 so today at launch (bit.ly/3t1HxqB ) seeing the price increase was a shocker. They would have won the value category but that price change totally hit us by surprise and we made a last minute edit/deletion. These amzn.to/3WxzAr4 are the clear value leader at this point.
Really enjoy the passive XL8 amzn.to/2ZSnahy from Fluance - still a fantastic bargain but as for the powered version they released not too long ago, we did not feel the same. As for AE, it's been too long since I've heard anything from thing which is why they were not included.
Klipsch app still does not work on The Fives. Just got them yesterday, and I am a Senior IT Pro. I still can't get it working even after the update. That said, The Fives sound fantastic for their size. Just buy them when they are $500 (not worth $800)
I like you channel. However, this comparison was disappointing. Klipsch The Fives are discontinued and many more relevant models are missing, e.g. Audioengine HD4, Audio Pro A26/A28, Q Acoustics M20. I realize that you included only the ones that could have been sent to you, but in preparation for such a comparison perhaps more effort could have been done to obtain more complete and relevant list.
Active speaker....what would I want? Buchart A700 🤪 What would I probably get/ could afford? Tannoy Gold 8... Could you guys perhaps do a review on the Gold 8? 😊
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I have seen that one🙊 (from what I remember, you seemed to like it) The Gold 8 is significantly bigger, and in my head, it must be even better🙊 Thanks for the reply 😊
Hi Andrew I really enjoyed your TH-cam channel I'm an hi quality audio fan... And my klipsch Stadium just died recently..... And I was thinking on the five but I need to know if there are difference in quality on the McLaren edition.... Thank you very much if you have the answer ..please let me know. Thanks.and if you're able to test the speakers yourself please let me know I got a few friends of mine with regular Fives.... but non with the McLaren... Thanks for your channel it's very informative
It is, as the man said. That's why I question the idea of the Mission flexibility - it doesn't have wifi, and that's a big loss in digital file quality.
Lovely video! I would love to see a round two where you get into the next price tier with existing offerings from Kef, Q Acoustics, Bouchart, Dynaudio represented.
Fives are working great for my desktop setup. The app took ages to arive in a usable form. It was fun to install, something like from fantastic mister fox playing cricket complexity levels. When adjusted via app fives are actual pretty good.
I wonder why the edifier s3000 wasn't included in this price range. I get that there is only so many spots. But no doubt the s3000 should be considered in this group
Love, love, love my Fives. It's just fun to hear that much sound coming from such small cabinets / boxes. ;-) For a little powered speaker, they do everything I need for my office and turntable. I very rarely ever think, "man... I should hook up a sub to these". Just super happy with how they sound and all the options for connections they offer. I like the way that the Missions look and I'd love to give them a listen sometime, but overall, I'm extremely happy with The Fives. Always fun to hear your opinions on stuff like this. Thanks for all you both do!
I’m surprised that the Kanto YU6 was not in this lineup. I bought mine partly based on a recommendation from you and I absolutely love them. Excellent build quality, sound, and looks. The subwoofer is also great. Love them for movies as well as music
They were discussed and Kristi heavily vouched for them. Same as you I purchased them off Andrews previous review and I’m still loving them. The energy their sound brings is just so fun!
After doing some research I ended up with the Kanto YU-6's for our small living room. So far so good! Build quality and look is excellent (matte white), sound is good, features/connectivity is fantastic (can add a sub when the time is right), and my partner likes that we got rid of the giant receiver... All in all a good side-grade!!
Of all these speakers I’d pick the Missions. They’re very pretty (to my eyes anyway) and have all the connectivity I’d look for. I first got a pair of Quad 9Active speakers (second hand) a couple of years back, and very much enjoyed them as near-field desktop speakers on my computer. I’ve recently upgraded to Quad 9AS speakers, with far more input options, better amplification and DAC too, and this plays out in the sound which is substantially better than the 9Active pair. So, that pair of Missions would be a serious contender if I were to change them again. And to think that only a few years ago I was a thoroughly separates only kinda guy.
I really enjoyed the side by side comparisons today. For me, it’s the Missions. They ooze the cool factor. But I’ve already got my Q Acoustics M20 HD powered speakers. So I’m content.😮
Think it's a value question at this point. Which at fives are cheapest. However you can make your own stereo 2.0 system with KEF q150 and an Aiyama D03 for a similar cost
Great video as always. I own the Fives and read on the Klipsch owners forum that the speaker grill fabric is thermoplastic that shrinks when heated (you can make the fabric taut again by applying gentle heat with a blow dryer). I keep the grills off so hasn't been an issue for me.
Enjoyed the video but I think if I was in the market for basically a near field speaker/monitor I would probably look at some Pro Audio gear...Kali Audio, Dynaudio, Adams, even the JBL. You can get powered monitors from all those brands that measure well, don't look too bad, some have DSP and are pretty cheap. Just my opinion anyway.
had the opportuntiy to listen to the fives and personally i was surprised by the output and bass for their size. would love to see you guys review the 7's and the new 9's
I have had my eye on the Fives for about two years now. I wanted to move beyond the soundbar/subwoofer setup that I had but didn't have the $$ to invest in a Marantz or Onkyo surround system. So I was like, ok, what is the best 2.1 I can get that won't break my wallet, and all my "research' kept leading me back to the Fives. But at just under $1K, it was a bit pricey, still just a want, not a need, and Klipsch seemed to put everything on sale but the speakers I wanted. Until about 10 days ago, when they listed the Fives at about 54% off Black Friday and I impulsively jumped on it. I was curious to see if they lived up to the hype, and I am happy to say they do. They are a bass lovers dream out of the box, you cannot believe the bass that comes out of these little things and the DSP balances voice with ambient noise very well IMO. I snagged these for just under 5 bills, and for that price, they crush the competition.
Though I haven't compared directly I'd guess the Kali LP6 would likely outperform all of these for less than any of them at $400/pair. The Kali IN5/8 would likely destroy them at $700-800. Would be great if you @andrewrobinson could review either or both though. Either way keep up the phenomenal work/videos!👏
I was thinking about buying the Klipsch five for my TV (instead of a soundbar). I have a stereo set to listen music, so the fives would be just for TV. But, I have read/red a lot of comments in the internet about some heavy issues regarding mentioned Klipsch fives (e.g. app is not stable, updates don't work fine, the fives turn off from time to time, etc.). To many such comments from clients to think the Problem does not exist.
Nice comps. I have a set up of powered Mackie MR624 connected with Bluesound Node. Great powerful sound for medium and large size rooms (in plain black only), and can add subs for upgrade. This was by far better then the Fives in the medium/large room.
I have the Mackie MR824's for my desk and they sound incredible off of the Shiit Audio DAC and Loki, I have The Fives on a TV and they sound great as well.
Been testing the SVS speakers and am amazed by the sound: transparent, dynamic, balanced and detailed. You can feel the hits on the snare, the fingers on the frets, detailed bass, and they have a real punch when the music wants to punch. I keep turning them up waiting for them to break up and distort, but nyet -comrade, nyet. So impressed. In person they are a gravitationally dense box with a tidy bevelled front, and a flawless finish. At worst they are inoffensive. Not sure on the strong reaction, but I hope it doesn't dissuade people from trying them out - beauty is as beauty does.
I would like to mention, does anyone notice how speaker brands can add hdmi to powered speakers but integrated amplifiers from reputable brands don’t? 😢
great review and recommendations... wish you would have had a chance to check the Q acoustics M20 ...and wonder how well they would have done....especially 'sound quality'...
Fabulously cut vid, Andrew. Yours and Kristi's commitment to refinement is paying off, it's noticed, it's impressive. Super taught and well executed vid.
I am over 70 years old and would like to be able to listen to my CD collection. If I were to get the Klipsch Fives, with their more numerous connectivity options then the other powered speakers, what kind of a CD player could I get to connect to the Klipsch Fives?
I must commend you on reading and responding to the comments each week. The amount of repeat comments and questions, mostly regarding things that were covered in the video must be incredibly frustrating. I could not do it.
Nice job! I really enjoyed watching this one. I did not know that the Klipsch app was finally working. I bought a pair of the Fives after your original review. I have done 3 things to them which, for me, vastly improved them IMO. First I added a decent Klipsch sub. I don’t remember the model number but I got it on sale for $5-600. Then I put foam plugs in the ports. I did this because I wanted more flexibility in the positioning. I personally think they sound better regardless but maybe I have just gotten used to the sound. The 3rd thing is that I used a heat gun or hair dryer on the grilles about a year or so ago. They have stayed tight. Having covered a fabric airplane earlier in my life the normal procedure there is to apply the fabric and then use heat to shrink it. I also worked in a cotton mill when I was a student. I ran a giant oven that took huge rolls of dyed cloth and ran it through a water/chemical bath and then through a 400 degree oven for about 125 feet. This is how they make “preshrunk” fabric. I misted the grille cloth lightly with water and then used either my heat gun or a hair dryer (I don’t remember which) on them until they were tight and dry. This took less than 5 minutes in total. I used a spray bottle with super fine mist. I doubt the water is even necessary. Anyway for me the Fives have been great. I saw them a couple of days ago at Costco for $449 in black. I almost bought them for my son.
i may have simply skipped over it but my only feedback would be that it would have been nice to know a bit more about that display on the SVSs. i can just open a new tab and go to the manufacturer's website, but still, it looked like a distinguishing feature worth mentioning.
Its an oled display that can be always on, dimmed or off. I have this pair and keep mine off. It will turn on when displaying any changes which is what I prefer.
Thanks for the video, i appreciated the heads up competition as a "new video style". I really liked the look of the fives until i saw them in person at costco and saw that the fit and finish looks cheap. The missions are the ones in the review that im the most intrigued by, especially at the reduced price. Ive never liked the sound signature of SVS speakers (i do like their subs). I think at the full price of the missions i would do a pair of Dynaudio LYD paired with something like a bluesound node or an AudioEngine B-fi. The LYDs are spectacular but have really limited connectivity options. With a B-fi they are around 1700$ which makes them far more $$ than anything in this competition. I think it would be cool to see you do a near field studio monitor comparison, i bet alot of your viewers use that type of speaker for listing to a desktop pc, which makes HDMI, Bluetooth, etc moot in many cases. Dynaudio, M-Audio, AudioEngine, yamaha, all make intriguing choices in that type of product and it would be cool to see how you think they compare to your YU6 that youve lived with for so long.
Can you check out the new Triangle borea Bluetooth speakers? Would be good to see how they compare to these ones. Their passive ones got really good reviews.
I use Emotiva Stealth 6s (active powered) for our living room system (along with dual 10" sealed box subs). In my office I've got Emotiva Airmotiv 5s. Love both systems.
Hello you two! Thank you for your good work! Where would you place the Tannoy Gold 5 in this ranking? Are they still your desktop favourites? I'm thinking about buying them for that very purpose. Thanks for your help!
We still think they are really good but they are dumb powered speakers (less versatile) and practically impossible to find anymore which makes it difficult to continue to take them seriously.
I think your Elac of enthusiasm is going to cheese off some Andrew Jones fanboys. I also am miffed why SVS doesn't offer a wireless option of their Ultra series. Maybe they're afraid Kristi will gloss shame their flagship?
I've had the Fives as my home office speakers for about 6 months and I LOVE them. I road-tested a few others (none of the others in your review though) and the Fives came out winners by a mile.
@6:45 you say the only thing I don't want to hear about The Fives - The grill fabric started to loosen and sag after a year. I live in Thailand which has a humid tropical climate, so is this going to be a problem and, if so, is there any possibility to buy new replacement grills? Yeah I guess it's wait and see, and/or get the fabric itself replaced if it's sagging. They're expensive speakers over here, as in around $850 but I - just - want - them - ! Ha Ha
I’ve had my fives for awhile now and I’ve really loved them for my office/spare room. Paired with my LG C1 in there and a sub it was life changing at the time lol (was my first oled). Idk if the grills on the black ones (which I got for like 475🎉) are different but they’ve been fine so far for me over about a year or so. And now that the app is here for them it’s been like hearing them for the first time again!
We do. To be honest, I forgot all about them. I still think they are really good but they are dumb powered speakers and practically impossible to find anymore which makes it difficult to continue to take them seriously.
I also tried the KEF LSX2 in my 15' x 12' office space and decided they weren't for me for the same reasons you mentioned. Having previously used Kanto YU4 in a desktop setup I decided to try the Kanto TUK. Mine are connected to a Kanto SUB8 and I enjoy them very much. For context, the source is a MacBook via an iFi Audio Zen DAC. For me it's an excellent combination. Another significant factor is that in my opinion both Kanto and iFi Audio deliver exceptionally good customer support and service.
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Great video as usual but The keyword in the video- flexibility. For the streaming lovers and speaker wire haters 😂
Unfortunately, I am a passive fan, I equate them to soundbars or primary lifestyle options as opposed to hi fi.
HDMI is something they really need to work on, seen and heard many issues with connectivity and reliability in powered speakers. but for a pair of Fives in Australia which retail past $1100, you can buy a decent AVR and a pair of great passive speakers across the range that hit high volumes well.
Also… have to say it:
A pair of Sonos speakers.
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I've owned the Fives for over a year now, and my grills still look great. I do agree that you need to tone down the bass on the Fives for a more natural sound.
But the App now working (it didn't at the time of our initial review) makes the Fives SOOOO much easier to live with!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews After installing the app, the subwoofer output of the Fives seemed to be greatly increased, so I had to readjust all my bass settings again.
I have had mine for 6 months with no issues from the grilles either.
I’ve had mine for about a year also, and I also say the grills are fine. Maybe Andrew and Kristi had an early review unit that had the issue that was later resolved with mass shipments? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder the same thing. I’ve had mine for 16 months and they still look great. I use them in my office at work and they’re great for that, especially at the price I paid. I tend to prefer a more neutral sound so I might really like the new SVS speakers, but adjusted The Fives are pretty good. And their flexibility and value are fantastic.
I get the biggest kick out of the contrast between these two. Andrew choses his words so cautiously and speaks with a grace comparable to a fine ballet dancer.
Krissy (SP) has all the grace of a long haul truck driver who won't waste anyones time with unnecessary words, or PC.
Nice balance guys.
The fives , subwoofer out feature.
Hdmi with cec and arc, and phono in.
Great product for the money.
Seems more flexible and better option than most soundbars.
Thanks your channel.
I just bought the fives after a-b testing with similar options. As a matter of fact: just by today, I put their box in the cellar, because I finally made a choice.
That said - I wouldn’t have chosen them, if it weren’t for the App. Bass was much to bloated and treble was off, as well.
Other ones, I tested were much better with percussion and/or imaging and instrument separation. And with some more complex tracks, the Klipsch seem to brake down, a little - even at low-er volumes.
But and that’s a big B:
They just sound phenomenal with voices, are easy to live with (after adjustment), very flexible, and can play many genres of music in an equal fashion. And tuned in, they project a large stage with clear centered voice without any harshness.
Therefore, they can do movies, podcasts, vinyl, Bluetooth in a pleasing way without any problems.
Yes, they won’t detail much and on some tracks, I still miss some refinement. But that’s what I have my Headphones for. And though I do plan on getting a more refined setup, they would still fit well in the office/gaming room.
Very happy to see this review 👍🏼 only wish Swan was included. Thx guys ✊🏽
The Audioengine A5s are excellent, quite a bit of detail. They are $400.
Recently got the SVS Prime Pros with a 300 Micro sub and the combo is stunning. That little sub is shockingly good, and when blended properly to where it seems like everything is coming from the speakers… my goodness, it is a wonderful sound reproduction.
I was initially interested in the Klipsch’s because of the automatic high pass filter to the main speakers when a sub is connected, so they can open up the mids more without having to fight for the low end. SVS includes that feature as well, and their app for managing every aspect of the sub is extremely convenient, so they knocked it out of the park for what I wanted. Not to mention the HDMI eArc! Perfect for a soundbar use case.
Also, the 6 preset buttons on the front and the remote are a hilariously innovative feature. You can match them to any Spotify playlist, or a podcast, etc.. just like an old school radio, how cool is that?!
Agreed, wish they came in a wood finish, but I went with the white for now and am enjoying that look. And I also grabbed the wireless adapter they sell for the sub, that made placement a breeze like I’ve never experienced. Thanks for another fun video from you two! Keep it going.
Do these control easily with arc-cec and TV remote(power and volume)? Looking for a seamless soundbar replacement. Do voice and action sounds mix well.... Or do you constantly need to increase and decrease volume depending on scenes?
I think SVS has an important feature none of the others have: streaming with the big 3 - Chromecast, Spotify Connect and Airplay. No need to buy an expensive BluesoundNode which is overpriced and doesn't include Chromecast which is quite valuable to Android users.
I'd go with a Bluesound NODE & a pair of ADAM Audio T8V 8-inch Active Spkrs for ~ $1,200. !!!
Bluesound software sucks!!! Just terrible! Luckily I got my NAD Master 10 at a steal of $500. But I'll never pay full price for anything with Bluesound built in.
Just stopped by to drop a liked. I'm good with my JBL Professional 305P MkII's. Price to performance is unmatched. BYOD and that's fine with me
I've been wanting a list like this for a long time but there's never ever any good videos on them
Why Kef LS50 Wireless 2 were not included in the comparison?
$$$
Glad the YU6 got an honourable mention ...as picked up a set two weeks ago.. Setting up a home office currently with a vinyl focussed bookshelf system. Sounds good .....but looking to add a sub for added punch
Cool roundup guys! Personally speaking, I’ve had The Fives for a year or so and my grills look the same way they did on day 1.
As you say, maybe yours were an earlier design?
Heyyyy! Close to 300k subs! Well done you two! What a great community you’ve created! Congrats!!!
Thanks so much!!
I own the Fives. Came tight and still look good. Finish is the last thing I care about. Also the sub out needs to be a consideration. Everyone will connect a 200 buck sub at least. At $450 currently?
$460 here amzn.to/3WxzAr4
Do these control easily with arc-cec and TV remote(power and volume)? Looking for a seamless soundbar replacement. Do voice and action sounds mix well.... Or do you constantly need to increase and decrease volume depending on scenes?
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Are all the speakers with HDMI input arc(cec) compatible with volume and power control? I read that it's a pain to manually switch these on and off and can lead to longevity issues if not
Are you guys able to do a video similar to this one but for home theater bookshelf monitors? Over my soundbar and looking to get into the game but have no clue where to start. Thanks!!! Keep up the awesome videos!
Ah, I don't know, I like SVS's piano white finishes. I have SVS Ultra bookshelves speakers in my theater with the piano white finish and they look cool. My surrounds and atmos on ceiling speakers are the plain black ash finish and those are so generic. Now I wouldn't mind if they had satin white like Arendal's satin white.
What worries me the most about the SVS prime wireless is the DTS Play-fi app. I wish it was better.
On a different note, this has been one of my favorite youtube channels in the last couple of years. I've gotten a lot from it, from knowledge about products I want to know more about, good tips, and great opinions. But I gotta say, the best thing I got from this channel is Lady Blackbird. You guys mention them a lot in your reviews. So, last night, I fired up Qobuz, did a little search, and damn! Holy #$@&!!! I listened to Blackbird 5 straight times before I tried out other songs. Each one, I just kept saying "damn!". I was up late listening. I just gotta say, thaaaaank you!
Excellent video as always thank you
When indicating the sound pressure of a speaker, it would be appreciated if you could indicate the distance at which you are listening to the speaker.
Hi Andrew !! What about the PSB AM5 ?
Love this video! I have The Fives and the SVS Micro 3000 for my turntable and love that combo. But those Missions are tempting me something fierce!
Same combo here. Tight & punchy.
Sweet video. For my particularly odd use case though I would like a little more info. I would like to have some speakers for my gaming computer(complete with flashing lights). It needs to be able also have a decent dac/amp for headphones too. Looks wise wood veneer doesn't really go. I thought of getting an amp like the emotiva with both and some passive speakers, but after seeing this I am now considering maybe going this route instead.
Agree with Kristi, the SVS look so bad lol, I think the Klipsch look the best especially without the grills
Let's face it, we all want to see that horn.
When we filmed this a few days ago, the press release for the new SVS was listed at MSRP is $799.99 so today at launch (bit.ly/3t1HxqB ) seeing the price increase was a shocker. They would have won the value category but that price change totally hit us by surprise and we made a last minute edit/deletion. These amzn.to/3WxzAr4 are the clear value leader at this point.
I was wondering how these compare to Vanatoo Transparent ONE Encore
Your thoughts on Fluance or Audioengine?
Really enjoy the passive XL8 amzn.to/2ZSnahy from Fluance - still a fantastic bargain but as for the powered version they released not too long ago, we did not feel the same. As for AE, it's been too long since I've heard anything from thing which is why they were not included.
Darn, I was hoping to see your opinion of the Paradigm Founder 120H speakers.
I've had the fives since they came out. I love them but I'm eye balling the new SVS pros. Is there a huge difference in the sound as far as bass goes?
Th 5s have boosted bass & th svs is more linear ( Andrew said ). So, th 5s would have more bass
03:09 covered here
Is Klipsh the 5 better than r51pm??
I used to have the r51pm and YES they are far better especially with a subwoofer
Klipsch app still does not work on The Fives. Just got them yesterday, and I am a Senior IT Pro. I still can't get it working even after the update. That said, The Fives sound fantastic for their size. Just buy them when they are $500 (not worth $800)
Just bought The Fives refurbished from klipsch with a holiday coupon for $387 I'm very happy with the price I got them for.
Try a 4GB USB drive, I couldn’t get my Fives to find the file on anything larger. It’s working fine for me now. Hopefully this helps.
@@bryancastle5773 16gb work to on my fives
I like you channel. However, this comparison was disappointing. Klipsch The Fives are discontinued and many more relevant models are missing, e.g. Audioengine HD4, Audio Pro A26/A28, Q Acoustics M20. I realize that you included only the ones that could have been sent to you, but in preparation for such a comparison perhaps more effort could have been done to obtain more complete and relevant list.
The Mission’s are also not available on the Amazon link posted with this video. VERY unfortunate.
You can still buy the fives on Amazon...
@@scottmackey4182 yes they are. Literally just checked. Same with the other link for Crutchfield...
@@chrisy4011 you can stil buy them in many store even here in Holland
Thanks!
Thank you for watching and for your support!
Active speaker....what would I want? Buchart A700 🤪
What would I probably get/ could afford? Tannoy Gold 8...
Could you guys perhaps do a review on the Gold 8?
😊
If you do a quick search, you'll find our Tannoy Gold 5 review.
No plans for the 8.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews
I have seen that one🙊 (from what I remember, you seemed to like it) The Gold 8 is significantly bigger, and in my head, it must be even better🙊
Thanks for the reply 😊
The Nines or KEF LS50 Wireless II?
Hi Andrew I really enjoyed your TH-cam channel I'm an hi quality audio fan... And my klipsch Stadium just died recently..... And I was thinking on the five but I need to know if there are difference in quality on the McLaren edition.... Thank you very much if you have the answer ..please let me know. Thanks.and if you're able to test the speakers yourself please let me know I got a few friends of mine with regular Fives.... but non with the McLaren... Thanks for your channel it's very informative
At 06:19 he does mention that it's just cosmetic. No audible difference.
I'm surprised to see the Kanto TUK didn't make the list, I guess Andrew really hates amt tweeters.
Please watch the entire review, we discuss Kanto, though I prefer the YU line to the TUK.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I did watch the entire review.
@@TheLWebb100 , Re-watch from 16:00 and you’ll get your answer👍
What about Q Acoustics M20?
klipsch the fives or a cheaper version that I have are the klipsch rp51 and a fosi bt30d bluetooth amp.
Not sure why you lead with connectivity, is that really the most important consideration for speakers?
When the speakers are powered internally, it's pretty darn important.
Whether he led or ended with connectivity, it’s still a good thing to know, isn’t it?
It is, as the man said. That's why I question the idea of the Mission flexibility - it doesn't have wifi, and that's a big loss in digital file quality.
What do you think of edifer S3000 pro active speakers?
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Lovely video! I would love to see a round two where you get into the next price tier with existing offerings from Kef, Q Acoustics, Bouchart, Dynaudio represented.
Hi Guys. Great review. Wondering how would the Q Acoustics M20 compare against this lineup?
We have not heard the M20s.
Fives are working great for my desktop setup. The app took ages to arive in a usable form. It was fun to install, something like from fantastic mister fox playing cricket complexity levels. When adjusted via app fives are actual pretty good.
Updating the speakers to use the new App was admittedly stupid, yes. But I agree, now that they have an App that works, they may be even better!
What bout Q Acoustics M20?
Have you ever done Edifier S3000 pro? I have a pair of those and I feel like I somehow cheated at life.
I wonder why the edifier s3000 wasn't included in this price range. I get that there is only so many spots. But no doubt the s3000 should be considered in this group
What about the Edifier S3000pro?
Love, love, love my Fives. It's just fun to hear that much sound coming from such small cabinets / boxes. ;-) For a little powered speaker, they do everything I need for my office and turntable. I very rarely ever think, "man... I should hook up a sub to these". Just super happy with how they sound and all the options for connections they offer. I like the way that the Missions look and I'd love to give them a listen sometime, but overall, I'm extremely happy with The Fives. Always fun to hear your opinions on stuff like this. Thanks for all you both do!
hey Andrew, the Kanto TUKs are currently $600. Do you have any other recommendation for a powered speaker at that price point?
Any way we can get a review of the Edifier S3000 Pro or comparison to this group?
I’m surprised that the Kanto YU6 was not in this lineup. I bought mine partly based on a recommendation from you and I absolutely love them. Excellent build quality, sound, and looks. The subwoofer is also great. Love them for movies as well as music
They were discussed and Kristi heavily vouched for them. Same as you I purchased them off Andrews previous review and I’m still loving them. The energy their sound brings is just so fun!
After doing some research I ended up with the Kanto YU-6's for our small living room. So far so good! Build quality and look is excellent (matte white), sound is good, features/connectivity is fantastic (can add a sub when the time is right), and my partner likes that we got rid of the giant receiver... All in all a good side-grade!!
Of all these speakers I’d pick the Missions. They’re very pretty (to my eyes anyway) and have all the connectivity I’d look for. I first got a pair of Quad 9Active speakers (second hand) a couple of years back, and very much enjoyed them as near-field desktop speakers on my computer. I’ve recently upgraded to Quad 9AS speakers, with far more input options, better amplification and DAC too, and this plays out in the sound which is substantially better than the 9Active pair. So, that pair of Missions would be a serious contender if I were to change them again.
And to think that only a few years ago I was a thoroughly separates only kinda guy.
I really enjoyed the side by side comparisons today. For me, it’s the Missions. They ooze the cool factor. But I’ve already got my Q Acoustics M20 HD powered speakers. So I’m content.😮
Thanks.. but since there is no overall winner..I'm still confused as to which one to get!
Think it's a value question at this point. Which at fives are cheapest. However you can make your own stereo 2.0 system with KEF q150 and an Aiyama D03 for a similar cost
the mission for kristi and secretly the svs for andy
Hmm. Surprised that Acoustic Energy AE1 was not among those under test.
In terms of sound, it’s better than all these speakers!
Why wasn’t included? Cause the list would be a mile long and the video would never get done
What about Q Acoustics M20?
I'd like to see a video on Genelec and Neumann studio monitors. Yes, they are marketed for studios, but they can equally be used for HIFI.
Great video as always. I own the Fives and read on the Klipsch owners forum that the speaker grill fabric is thermoplastic that shrinks when heated (you can make the fabric taut again by applying gentle heat with a blow dryer). I keep the grills off so hasn't been an issue for me.
In Thailand
Klipsch distrubutor add profit cost up to 40-50%
The Fives price up to $800-1000
so sad
Enjoyed the video but I think if I was in the market for basically a near field speaker/monitor I would probably look at some Pro Audio gear...Kali Audio, Dynaudio, Adams, even the JBL. You can get powered monitors from all those brands that measure well, don't look too bad, some have DSP and are pretty cheap. Just my opinion anyway.
I will say it’s nice to see hdmi becoming the norm in the powered speaker market
These speakers are still no match to the Airpulse A100
I bet my money on the Acoustic Energy AE1's Active for ultimate sound quality. However, they will cost more than any of these but worth every penny!
had the opportuntiy to listen to the fives and personally i was surprised by the output and bass for their size. would love to see you guys review the 7's and the new 9's
The Fives app doesn't save EQ adjustments once I switch the speakers off. So that's a major annoyance for an otherwise amazing pair of bookshelves.
Surprised you didn’t try some AudioEngine .
I have had my eye on the Fives for about two years now. I wanted to move beyond the soundbar/subwoofer setup that I had but didn't have the $$ to invest in a Marantz or Onkyo surround system. So I was like, ok, what is the best 2.1 I can get that won't break my wallet, and all my "research' kept leading me back to the Fives. But at just under $1K, it was a bit pricey, still just a want, not a need, and Klipsch seemed to put everything on sale but the speakers I wanted. Until about 10 days ago, when they listed the Fives at about 54% off Black Friday and I impulsively jumped on it. I was curious to see if they lived up to the hype, and I am happy to say they do. They are a bass lovers dream out of the box, you cannot believe the bass that comes out of these little things and the DSP balances voice with ambient noise very well IMO. I snagged these for just under 5 bills, and for that price, they crush the competition.
Do you think a sub will add a lot to these?
Though I haven't compared directly I'd guess the Kali LP6 would likely outperform all of these for less than any of them at $400/pair. The Kali IN5/8 would likely destroy them at $700-800. Would be great if you @andrewrobinson could review either or both though. Either way keep up the phenomenal work/videos!👏
I was thinking about buying the Klipsch five for my TV (instead of a soundbar). I have a stereo set to listen music, so the fives would be just for TV. But, I have read/red a lot of comments in the internet about some heavy issues regarding mentioned Klipsch fives (e.g. app is not stable, updates don't work fine, the fives turn off from time to time, etc.). To many such comments from clients to think the Problem does not exist.
Nice comps. I have a set up of powered Mackie MR624 connected with Bluesound Node. Great powerful sound for medium and large size rooms (in plain black only), and can add subs for upgrade. This was by far better then the Fives in the medium/large room.
I have the Mackie MR824's for my desk and they sound incredible off of the Shiit Audio DAC and Loki, I have The Fives on a TV and they sound great as well.
Been testing the SVS speakers and am amazed by the sound: transparent, dynamic, balanced and detailed. You can feel the hits on the snare, the fingers on the frets, detailed bass, and they have a real punch when the music wants to punch. I keep turning them up waiting for them to break up and distort, but nyet -comrade, nyet. So impressed.
In person they are a gravitationally dense box with a tidy bevelled front, and a flawless finish. At worst they are inoffensive. Not sure on the strong reaction, but I hope it doesn't dissuade people from trying them out - beauty is as beauty does.
I would like to mention, does anyone notice how speaker brands can add hdmi to powered speakers but integrated amplifiers from reputable brands don’t? 😢
I have to say I’m surprised the Kanto YU6 or TUK’s didn’t show up in this comparison.
I think maybe you didn't watch the WHOLE video 🤔
@@andrewrobinsonreviews He definitely did not...tsk tsk tsk. 😅
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Yeah, just got to that part 😬
I should have known better by now.
great review and recommendations... wish you would have had a chance to check the Q acoustics M20 ...and wonder how well they would have done....especially 'sound quality'...
I like this format and would like a kef vs q acoustic powered shoot out.
Try an Edifier S3000 Pro for the next round! These are truly incredible speakers!!!
Fabulously cut vid, Andrew. Yours and Kristi's commitment to refinement is paying off, it's noticed, it's impressive. Super taught and well executed vid.
Thanks so much!
I am over 70 years old and would like to be able to listen to my CD collection. If I were to get the Klipsch Fives, with their more numerous connectivity options then the other powered speakers, what kind of a CD player could I get to connect to the Klipsch Fives?
Adcom GCD-575 with a couple of tweaks and Wow!
I must commend you on reading and responding to the comments each week. The amount of repeat comments and questions, mostly regarding things that were covered in the video must be incredibly frustrating. I could not do it.
Nice job! I really enjoyed watching this one. I did not know that the Klipsch app was finally working. I bought a pair of the Fives after your original review. I have done 3 things to them which, for me, vastly improved them IMO. First I added a decent Klipsch sub. I don’t remember the model number but I got it on sale for $5-600. Then I put foam plugs in the ports. I did this because I wanted more flexibility in the positioning. I personally think they sound better regardless but maybe I have just gotten used to the sound. The 3rd thing is that I used a heat gun or hair dryer on the grilles about a year or so ago. They have stayed tight. Having covered a fabric airplane earlier in my life the normal procedure there is to apply the fabric and then use heat to shrink it. I also worked in a cotton mill when I was a student. I ran a giant oven that took huge rolls of dyed cloth and ran it through a water/chemical bath and then through a 400 degree oven for about 125 feet. This is how they make “preshrunk” fabric. I misted the grille cloth lightly with water and then used either my heat gun or a hair dryer (I don’t remember which) on them until they were tight and dry. This took less than 5 minutes in total. I used a spray bottle with super fine mist. I doubt the water is even necessary. Anyway for me the Fives have been great. I saw them a couple of days ago at Costco for $449 in black. I almost bought them for my son.
i may have simply skipped over it but my only feedback would be that it would have been nice to know a bit more about that display on the SVSs. i can just open a new tab and go to the manufacturer's website, but still, it looked like a distinguishing feature worth mentioning.
Its an oled display that can be always on, dimmed or off. I have this pair and keep mine off. It will turn on when displaying any changes which is what I prefer.
@@MrBananers thank you!
Thanks for the video, i appreciated the heads up competition as a "new video style". I really liked the look of the fives until i saw them in person at costco and saw that the fit and finish looks cheap. The missions are the ones in the review that im the most intrigued by, especially at the reduced price. Ive never liked the sound signature of SVS speakers (i do like their subs). I think at the full price of the missions i would do a pair of Dynaudio LYD paired with something like a bluesound node or an AudioEngine B-fi. The LYDs are spectacular but have really limited connectivity options. With a B-fi they are around 1700$ which makes them far more $$ than anything in this competition.
I think it would be cool to see you do a near field studio monitor comparison, i bet alot of your viewers use that type of speaker for listing to a desktop pc, which makes HDMI, Bluetooth, etc moot in many cases. Dynaudio, M-Audio, AudioEngine, yamaha, all make intriguing choices in that type of product and it would be cool to see how you think they compare to your YU6 that youve lived with for so long.
Hi Andrew, in your opinion, how do these compare with a pair of Tannoy Gold 7? Are you still using those (the Gold 5s) as your desktop speakers?
Can you check out the new Triangle borea Bluetooth speakers? Would be good to see how they compare to these ones. Their passive ones got really good reviews.
I use Emotiva Stealth 6s (active powered) for our living room system (along with dual 10" sealed box subs). In my office I've got Emotiva Airmotiv 5s. Love both systems.
Hello you two! Thank you for your good work! Where would you place the Tannoy Gold 5 in this ranking? Are they still your desktop favourites? I'm thinking about buying them for that very purpose. Thanks for your help!
We still think they are really good but they are dumb powered speakers (less versatile) and practically impossible to find anymore which makes it difficult to continue to take them seriously.
They're readily available at Sweetwater
@Andrew Robinson which would you pick? The Elac Debut ConneX or Kanto Yu4? Or if anyone else is reading this, what would be your pick and why?
I think your Elac of enthusiasm is going to cheese off some Andrew Jones fanboys.
I also am miffed why SVS doesn't offer a wireless option of their Ultra series. Maybe they're afraid Kristi will gloss shame their flagship?
No Q Acoustics M20 in this comparation? :(
I miss some names like the Kanto TUK, Tannoy's, Edifier... but afterall great vid. Thanks for giving some love to the powered sector of this hobby.
I liked my Kanto YU6's so much I bought the TUK's. I'd like to hear his comparison/thoughts to the TUK's
Hey guys, the Devialet Mania, the first portable speaker from Devialet, has been launched. Can you get your hands on it by any chance?
I've had the Fives as my home office speakers for about 6 months and I LOVE them. I road-tested a few others (none of the others in your review though) and the Fives came out winners by a mile.
Probably Klipsch Sevens with a Sub
@6:45 you say the only thing I don't want to hear about The Fives - The grill fabric started to loosen and sag after a year. I live in Thailand which has a humid tropical climate, so is this going to be a problem and, if so, is there any possibility to buy new replacement grills? Yeah I guess it's wait and see, and/or get the fabric itself replaced if it's sagging. They're expensive speakers over here, as in around $850 but I - just - want - them - ! Ha Ha
apparently they tighten up with heat, so you're in luck, and in the right place
Hey Andrew! Love your videos, do you have any experience with the Q Acoustics M20?
I’ve had my fives for awhile now and I’ve really loved them for my office/spare room. Paired with my LG C1 in there and a sub it was life changing at the time lol (was my first oled). Idk if the grills on the black ones (which I got for like 475🎉) are different but they’ve been fine so far for me over about a year or so. And now that the app is here for them it’s been like hearing them for the first time again!
Do you guys still have the Tannoy Gold? And how do they compare? (I know connectivity is limited but so is U-Turn's)
We do. To be honest, I forgot all about them. I still think they are really good but they are dumb powered speakers and practically impossible to find anymore which makes it difficult to continue to take them seriously.
I also tried the KEF LSX2 in my 15' x 12' office space and decided they weren't for me for the same reasons you mentioned. Having previously used Kanto YU4 in a desktop setup I decided to try the Kanto TUK. Mine are connected to a Kanto SUB8 and I enjoy them very much. For context, the source is a MacBook via an iFi Audio Zen DAC. For me it's an excellent combination. Another significant factor is that in my opinion both Kanto and iFi Audio deliver exceptionally good customer support and service.