Has the airflow case actually perfected? Fractal thinks so with the Fractal Torrent. Do we agree?
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00:00 - Start
00:18 - Thanks to our Sponsors
01:22 - Intro
02:24 - Fractal Torrent Overview
09:14 - Parts Overview
10:16 - Case Preparation
11:09 - The Build
12:56 - Final Touches & Montage
13:55 - Building Experience
16:20 - Thermals
18:52 - Performance
20:52 - Closing
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Airflow... Perfected! Oh, and it looks great! The Fractal Torrent Ultimate Case Review
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Best and most comprehensive review of this awesome case so far.
Thank you!
you did an amazing job reviewing this case. thank you for your
time
Planning my next build in this case. It’s slightly more than I’d normally spend on a case, but you save money by not needing to use Water cooling! You can make a really simple, no RGB build that stays cool.
Fractal Design has been consistently killing it in the case department since the Define R4 days. I'm glad they've also made great moves in the airflow offerings with the Meshify series and now the Torrent. I recently picked up a Torrent myself and boy is it nice for aircooling! Initially, I added a 140mm fan in the rear as well. I saw one argument that said that without that rear fan your top-mounted PSU would be ingesting too much hot air coming off your CPU cooler and GPU. I quickly realized that was total BS. The rear fan doesn't do anything for lower temps, it just adds more noise. The open grill design of the Torrent let's out all the air your front, bottom and CPU cooler fans are moving through the case efficiently. The only cons I found with this case is that for the price, the stock fans it comes with aren't that great for a quiet build. The 140mm fans make annoying motor noise at the lowest RPM and get way too loud at high RPM. I quickly got rid of them. The 180mm front fans I kept for now because they just move so much air due to their size even capped at 50% PWM input, at which point they have very acceptable noise levels. My final config for now is 3x NF-A14s in the bottom, NH-D15 for the CPU and the stock 180mm fans in the front. I might replace the front fans down the road, since the top one has a little bit of weird noises at low RPM.
Finally something different! It reminds me of the Silverstone RV02, I absolutely love it! Well done Fractal.
Yeah, totally agree!
Thank you for actually adding an exhaust fan for your thermal testing, unlike some other TH-camrs...
I just had to drop a note, I must thank you for setting the lighting up, I think most never do. And display the usual Rainbow throw up look, or worse yet, all the lights doing different things, the purple with black looks great, and I mostly not a fan of case lighting. Nice build, and nice that you set up the lights, very classy.
Using the version of this exact case that only has the dual 180's, and even with just those, my temperatures are always INSANELY good.
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 on a 5900X... literally idle at 28C, and around 65C under a full CPU stress test.
Gainward 3080 idles around the same, and has never seen over 70C with this case, even during Furmark GPU burn over 15 mins.
Ambient temperature here is always around 70F.
Just. Two. Fans.
Side panels on.
Almost 3 years in.
Zero exhaust.
Zero water.
Zero throttling
I love that case. And, if you check, it has almost the best thermals of any case you can purchase. Great job Fractal !!!!!!
I'm currently running a NH-D15 and a EVGA FTW3 3080 TI in a NZXT H510i where airflow is, well, limited, to put it mildly. Just ordered this amazing case so I can start moving everything over and I cannot wait.
This is a fantatsic review and probably the most comprehensive I've seen.
what is your review after 2 years? would like to hear.
@@sidd142 I can say wholeheartedly that, for me, the Fractal Torrent is the best case I have ever owned. It is an airflow king, and I adore the design. I am, however, moving to a Fractal Torrent Compact at some point.
@@Tazza19931 thank you so much for your feedback man! i will go for it.
@@sidd142 I don't think you'll be disappointed. Especially if you're someone like me who still opts for premium air cooling heatsinks rather than the liquid cooling and AIO equivalents.
Great video I might actually buy this case
Thank You, Robey. This just sold me on getting the Fractal Torrent case lol. Wonder how it'd look with a vertical GPU in the Torrent...
Hey! Just found your channel and I’m really enjoying your content. Is there any way you could put a note in the description or pinned comment in regards to the fan hub recall for this case? There is a risk of a manufacturing defect that can lead to an electrical short. Fractal recommends disconnecting the hub and are offering a replacement kit for those who already own the case. Just want to have that information available to as many folks as possible.
The perfect clear explanation
😁
Loving it
I was drawn to this video (and channel) purely to the static image of the case, it’s gorgeous, love that front and the purple lighting, I recently joined the pc world after being a diehard mac user, I considered building and that was with a fractal case, but got a good deal on a dell r10 Alienware so went the easier route, had this case been available I think I’d had definitely built
Oh gawd, oh no! Only heavens can save you now... Oh no, what kind of bug bit you to get a Dell. Oh my lord
@@8lec_R as a student the discount on top of the existing discount was too good to pass up and I managed to get a 3070 during this drought so it was the best option, I would have preferred building
@@andrewarmstrong5266 Linus' 2 secret shoppers. Gamers Nexus's secret shopper. GNs review on the Dell computer and the after sales service. All the video series above explain why Dell is so bad.
I, unironically, wish you the best of luck. Dell will try to f**k you over. Don't let them. Of something goes wrong push them and force them until they get you a replacement or get a person to come and fix it.
Damn, that looks good with the Purple glow
Anyone know what the RGB strip lights in the background are called? The ones that light up the walls pink/blue etc?
Great thorough review 💚
Would've been perfect if it wasn't made with so much plastic, if it was easier for mounting aio radiators, and if the cable space wasn't so dismal.
me who has a case from the early 2000s with less than a quarter inch of cable routing space:
IMHO, as an owner of this case who loves it, it isn't an optimal case for AIO. Sure, it can be used with one, but the whole point of this case is air cooling. And not just from a design perspective, but also from a price point. If you aren't going to use the included fans, you are losing out on a big portion of the case's value.
Awesome build and, more importantly, awesome case in many ways. I currently own a Meshify S2 but I much prefer the less boxy looks of the Torrent. My only issue with it is that there is no room for top fans. Therefore, I wouldn't be able to use my IceGiant ProSiphon Elite CPU cooler in it...
From what I understand, top fans can actually be detrimental to conventional aircooling as it starves the aircooler from some of the air that would have otherwise made it to the fins, although not as bad as side exhaust would on an air cooler. If the ProSiphon Elite was vertical instead of horizontal it would enjoy even better cooling more than being it's default horizontal with top fans I believe, because the airflow would be more direct and cool. Then it would be the PERFECT air cooling solution, but that is more of a consequence of the standards we use for how we set our components in the motherboard. It just seems like the pro Siphon Elite is ahead of it's time while still performing amazingly despite it's drawbacks. It's also so huge that to mount it vertical it would probably take a special case.
@@zereimu I'm not an engineer but hot air travels upwards. The Prosiphon Elite was designed to take advantage of this principle by installing their fins for top exhaust, assisting them with 4 x Arctic P12 fans in push-pull configuration. I agree that it can't be installed any other way. In my case, to assist it, I installed 3 x 140mm Noctua fans as top exhaust, 2 x 140mm Noctua fans as bottom intake, 3 x 140mm Noctua fans as front intake and 1 x 140mm Noctua fan as rear exhaust in a Fractal Design Meshify S2. It's a bit of an overkill but my components all run very cool, Noctua is very happy that I'm such a loyal customer and I am very satisfied with my setup, which will last me a very long time.
@@pasencoreunautre The only thing that is absolutely certain is that Noctua master race indeed!
honestly i’ve been saving for quite a while to get a build with some lighter components looking to go mostly air cooled with an aio selecting the o11d xl as the preferred case of choice but seeing this i’m leaning towards using this for air in the short term and then getting the o11d xl for water cooled long term
Both are currently en route to my house right now. I'm curious if I can get an aio and a hybrid 3080 into this. And return the Lian Li
@@mvzpodcast i’ve been wondering if i could vert mount a gpu in the o11 xl and get away with a 360 + fans on the bottom for god knows why in a water cooled setup but i’m sticking with the fractal for an air flow build
will get it later this week :D
Thank you for this video! I picked up the case today and was wondering who used this cooler. Def gonna pick it up and drop the AIO. Trying to go quiet as possible with this build.
Glad I could help!
@@RobeytechLive just got the case yesterday. My 9900k temps went up about 3-5C with a 5GHz OC on all cores with -1 AVX offset but my GPU temps on my Strix 3080ti went down about 10C! Went with the stock config. Only downside to the case is the placement of the grommet holes for the GPU and that fan hub placement.
@@Beezzzzy_ Hey thanks for letting me know this! What cooler did you use for your CPU?
@@RobeytechLive the same, Noctua DH15 Black. Had to raise the front fan because of my RAM size but it still fits in the case with zero issues.
In case you haven’t been notified yet, Fractal is recalling the fan hub inside the Torrent for potential shorting issues. They recommend you disconnect the fan hub and contact them for a replacement kit.
Looks amazing the rgb the design just great. If i can afford it one day to make my dreambuild this is the case I would choose the torrent rgb hands down. Nhd15 and the best cpu and gpu. Maybe in a few years ill make one sigh..
I have a P500A and I like it a bunch, but I think this Torrent will likely keep my GPU cooler, so I might get one. Thumbs up!
Idk that gpu temp was pretty high. I don’t recal being higher than 75 degrees in the P500A. Might be the gpu brand too. Using a strix currently
RobeyTech Can I fit the Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 360mm Intel/AMD CPU Liquid Cooler at the bottom, Replacing the bottom fans. This PC Cooler is normally fitted at the top.
I wish I could afford and experience this dream build
This is my favorite case for air-cooled builds.
Do you think the cooling is better if we replace the fans by noctua fans?
Bought this for my first build. Can't wait for it to arrive.
I'm about to buy this case to put my 12900k (when it comes out ofc) and my 3090. Question is, would it actually be better to have a 420AIO for the CPU or just go for an air cooler, since the case looks like it's made for that ?
Wondering the same
@@lauastyle Went for a u12a, this thing is nuts
this would be super sick in a smaller form factor like m-atx
What is better in your opinion? Corsair 5000D Airflow or this Fractal case?
Fractal easy
Hi, an excellent video, very informative. I'm building a high end, low power system in this case. A AMD Ryzen 9 7900 CPU and an Radeon RX 7900XT should be easly air cooled in this case.
Are those temperatures with Precision Boost Overdrive Off or On ?
It is set to Auto
I wonder what temperatures those HDDs will get during system load, and how long they will live.
The ones in the back or on the Mobo?
@@RobeytechLive Those 2 places on the back. I think there will be pretty hot for HDDs.
so funny. awesome case and I have always said it is better to have the psu at the top, psu's can handle heat and they also produce heat so it is best at the top, plus it gives your free exhaust fan. and cables are easier to manage when they are going with gravity from the psu down. If they just made the tower 2 inches taller there would be more options for power supplies and at the front they could have put a laptop sized optical drive slot for either optical drive or removable ssd .. option two.. they could have a removable thin bay on the face vertically along the side. of the grill, it would be invisible..
If they do a torrent 2 they need give the second chamber more space to put wires, and hard drives. I don't think we need to be messing around with optical drives though. I'd rather they have a block to connect io, usb, all the fans including CPU, much less flimsy plastic, and cut the price in HAF.
Should i upgrade from meshify c?
no
Was gonna get this case for my old parts 5950x ftw3 3080ti but i think I’m gonna put them in a phanteks evolve x and buy this case for my new parts 7950x gaming oc 4090. Been looking at cases for the last couple days and i have about 3 in my list but i think im going with this one. I usually spend 200-300 on a case and gonna run a 360 or 420mm aio. Been wanting to try a gpu vertically but my 4090 just too thick for most cases and if it does fit it’s getting chocked out being too close to the glass. My two most recent cases are a h500M and a evolve x both great cases but the h500M has the best airflow if you use the mesh front. And its crazy some companies wanting 200+ for a case and including 0 to 1 fan glad this comes with 5. I’ve been wanting to try the arctic freezer 2 420mm aio they seem to work good with ryzen had a kracken x72 on the 5950x and it did ok but i had to run pump and fans almost maxed if i ran pbo.
lol 300 dollars, no airflow, or drive space, but all of the RGB and marketing bullshit that leaves out things like oh, I don't know, clear detailed instructions on how to fucking build a PC in their box. My pet peaves is: why can't motherboard makers have the wires wired onto the fucking motherboard, and then a box to connect all that stuff. I meen we can have a penis measuring contest about RGB? So why not get their heads out of their ass to make building for anyone, a little less of a fucking headache.
when is this going to be available for sale? I just ordered a 5000D Airflow but might cancel and go with this instead!
I wish I knew! I am guessing very soon
@@RobeytechLive me too! just canceled my 5000D order; excited for something new
@@RobeytechLive just went live on newegg!
@@JackTotGaming link?
@@RobeytechLive www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-torrent-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352146?Description=fractal%20torrent&cm_re=fractal_torrent-_-11-352-146-_-Product&quicklink=true for the RGB version
I can’t find any videos showing people that successfully put the 420mm in there it def doesn’t fit in that pocket so I assume it’s gotta stick out the top
Was this the RGB version of the Torrent?
Robeytech 😍
I want it 👀
Yeah, a lot of people will!
Just picked one up…amazing case
Can anyone post @ me a build with the 420 AIO in the front? It’s 420 + the bar where the pump sticks out or 420.. it’s it was just 420 you would think it should fit in the front bracket pocket since the 3 140mm fans fit there .. 140 x 3 = 420 so something is off .. anyone have a tutorial, good explanation, link to specific info on that.. like I saw a video where a guy literally cut the metal slide on the bottom and welded it back so it was smaller just to get it in there .. they say the 420MM fits but they need to address this - everyone is talking about this 1 issue online
Love this case design, was going to ask if the Noctua NH-D15 would fit then you did it :) best of all it comes with a non RGB solid side panel model.
I know it's 4.5 months later but I am going to let you know what I think. My son and I built me a computer with this case and it went pretty well considering we are fairly new to this hobby. I used the Noctura D-15 as well. The 5900X and a EVGA RTX 3070, the ASUS ProArt Creator MoBo with 64 MB of ram and 2 1TB M.2's. I am using a Seasonic 850 Watt Power Supply. The system works very well so far. I did add a 140 fan in the back because I had a gift card to use up. Here's the thing that makes me a fanboy of this case even more evident. I doubled down on the whole Torrent thing and ordered another one. This time with the RGB fans. Here's my plan: The boys (two guys in their 20s) both have older computers with "hot box" type cases and will be upgrading at some point. I am going to take the RGB fans out of the new one and swap them out of my case (Note the RGB cases were out of stock when we built my computer). Then I am going to sit on that case until they decide to build and just donate it to the first kid that requires it. Once I tell them I have a free case like this to build in then it might get things going faster. It may not be fair to the other one so I might just buy a third one when the time comes. The other reason I went this direction is because if I just ordered RGB fans then I would end up with extra fans to store or sell. Obviously if I didn't have someone to give the other case to then I wouldn't have done it this way. In fact I would probably just accept it as it is. But those lit up fans look pretty cool on these TH-cam videos and I just want to make it a feature of my desk/office/studio decor. I am concerned about getting them all daisy chained together though. I am sure I will learn something from trying to get the RGB fans set up. I have looked for extension cables but not sure what to look for. I barely made the back fan cable reach that fan multi plug unit. I don't have the defective one BTW. Thanks!
I'm just about to make a build almost exactly the same spec as you (even down to the extra fan on the back), went with the 3070ti and more storage and the RGB case. I think it represents a good choice for a capable system without going nuts on the spending. The 3080Ti was £500 more here in the UK, more than I wanted to spend and the extra for the 5950X not worth the slim gains I'd see for my uses - photoshop and Davinci Resolve mainly. Looking forward to getting the build done and ripping through my editing!
Hope you enjoy the cooling lighting. I saw a vid where the guy set his lights to a gold colour and had black and gold coloured extension cables, it did look really good. This one th-cam.com/video/vAIzTq9t_a8/w-d-xo.html he has links to the cable extenders he bought and they might have the ones you are looking for, I think they do a complete kit for about $50
Nice build bro but please can you compare it with thermals of AIO cooler and Air cooler
agreed im not dropping my nzxt z73 kraken lol that was $280
We are building an AiO version now. But TBH it's not going to be better it will be slightly worse I would expect unless you just used REALLY nice fans. Then you could get it on par.
@@RobeytechLive thanks for consideration brother 👍👍
@@RobeytechLive oh no!! My first AIO build and it's gonna be worse...
So, this is the none RGB version?
How about no case 😄jk u r awesome as usual
Daaaaaaamnnnn
It's an amazing case!
Shame about the PSU placement, I use a top mounted AIO/exhaust, and much as I like this case's design, that's a deal breaker for me.
I would build with this case utilizing an AIO with an LCD and a hybrid GPU that has an AIO radiator mounted to the bottom. I would have the GPU exhaust out the bottom and the CPU exhaust out of the top.
78 degrees on the GPU? Are you serious? My 3080 TUF had 62 degrees in Furmark!
I ordered one 😧 bored with my Corsair 4000x no rgb.
Yay!
I have this case and I love it… air cooling on my 5950x is just perfect!!!
"In fact AMD said you shouldn't air cool the 5950X" lmao what a joke go tell them that the NH-D15 trashed every cringe high-end "RGB" water cooler on the market.
No it didnt. The nh-d15 is great, but a good aio is better. I personally tested it when overclocking my 10900k. I had to get rid of the nh-d15. For non-overclocking though.. its a great option if you dont want to deal with a pump potentially dying
imagine if they did a smart move on this case, having a 240 or even 280 aio support in the back, with them massive front fans infront. To me it not only sounds smart but logical.
that to. How about: the pultry space for putting cables in, not having single block for front io. better quality parts. more space for hard drives, those things that are still king for price and space. fixing the anemic space for a PSU. But sure also use the second chamber for AIO.
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P300A is better and cheaper.
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Shame about the PSU placement, I use a top mounted AIO/exhaust, and much as I like this case's design, that's a deal breaker for me.
Shame about the PSU placement, I use a top mounted AIO/exhaust, and much as I like this case's design, that's a deal breaker for me.
Shame about the PSU placement, I use a top mounted AIO/exhaust, and much as I like this case's design, that's a deal breaker for me.