I called a Toyota dealership almost 2years ago. I said I wanted to order a new Prius, or a new Corolla. I wasn’t interested in a plug in model. I said my average driving for now, should be about 3,000 miles per year with the car, and 3,000 miles per year with my pick up truck. They said they would not recommend me to buy a hybrid, because I wouldn’t be driving it enough to keep the battery charged. I took their advice, and bought a non-hybrid Corolla.with about 3,700 miles on it, it is going fine.
Another video I’ve seen from an experienced Toyota mechanic stressed that if you don’t drive at least 5,000 miles per year, then buying a hybrid would a detriment because of this very reason.
I have a 2014 Camry Hybrid XLE, bought new in Dec. 2013. No problem at all in 10+ years ownership. Only changed tires and brake pads once, and finally one fog light bulb went bad this month. Battery is till performing well as 10 years ago: 6.0L/100km in the summer, 6.5L/100km in winter, tracked and recorded in the past 14 months. I drove mostly in GTA.
Availability is no problem here in Houston, Texas. I walked in a Toyota dealership a year ago and drove out with a new Toyota RAV4. Price: is the main factor against hybrids.
I'll be honest, I only watched the first couple of minutes, if the top two advantages are wait times and non-hybrid parts I'm not convinced there are any advantages at all. The time of year when you purchase is significant as well, my wife and only waiting 3 months for our 2024 Hybrid XLE purchased in November, delivered in February.
I drive an average of 12 miles per day with a few 150 mile trips a year. I traded my hybrid prius fwd in for a gas Honda HR V awd . Now I get , on average, 3% better mpg with the HR V regardless of the season.....I was very surprised at this !! So, I would advise anyone who makes only short trips to be cautious when believing that they would save money with a hybrid that initially will cost more to purchase and may not be more efficient than a vehicle with a combustion engine. Be careful!
Toyota's are Great Cars. I'm still driving my 2004, Lexus 320 SUV, just do regular maintenance on it, and I just bought a 2020 Toyota Highlander/ Gas only/Luxury Model and I Love it!❤
There is a good reason why Toyota gives you 10 years warranty for the hybrid battery and not 20. My neighbor had Camry hybrid that was 12 years old when the battery died. He called Toyota and they told him that his warranty is up, so he needs to buy a new battery for 5 000 dollars parts and labor.
Thanks for the video Marcello. We have a Lexus hybrid in the family and I really enjoy the hybrid behaviour especially the AC working when the engine is off in hot summer.
I just bought a 24' RAV4 XLE Gas and love it. I just watched a video where it took 7 years with the hybrid, to make up the difference in price, through gas savings. I wanted a light weight, reliable SUV, at the best possible price. (my 3erd RAV4, 20,21,24).
I drive < 6k miles per year and don’t need AWD . My FWD XLE premium is all I need. It would take several years for me to recoup the extra cost of the hybrid. How the vehicle is used makes a significant difference.
I feel like we are safer with getting base model gas or hybrid toyotas that have the traditional key start. This is not the smart key. I feel like this would be one more deterrent to car theft in addition to the steering wheel club. I have the Hybrid LE - I am still open to hearing other thoughts but that's what I'm thinking.
What honestly makes you think that would stop a car theft from stealing the car. They are only looking for a car that has the most luxury and the most value and the most common stolen car and toyota is not the most stolen car. For me, I'm gonna go for the fully loaded RAV4 limited.
Simple fact is that the gas-only RAV4's traditional transmission has a better track record than any CVT design has, including Toyota's. That's another benefit, if you ask me. No annoying drone sound is a plus too. I want to sound like I'm driving a car, not a boat.
True. Buying the hybrid, taking into consideration 60 months of payments, yearly mileage, 55/45 city/highway and estimating gas mileage from $1.65/litre to $2.10/litre, means, for us, it would take from 5.5 to 7.5 years to recoup the extra hybrid cost. We keep our vehicles a minimum of 10 years. Our current one is actually a 2010 Tucson with 310,000 km. We would have to hope the battery would not have to be replaced after 10 years to make the hybrid cost effective.
I drive a lot in city amd in rush hour Toronto traffic. The new hybrids have an insane amount of wait times and the used ones do not justify the price tag. Guess, will need to go with a gas version
I will probably purchase a non-turbo Hybrid for my next car but one benefit I don't think you mentioned is that non-Hybrids usually get a real transmission with regular gears vs. a CVT with a launch gear. I believe that Toyota probably has the best CVT because of their unique 1st/launch gear before transitioning to the rubber band. :-)
Hybrid models use what’s called an eCVT, it’s a lot less complex transmission and very reliable even more so than a traditional automatic (27 years in service). The CVT with first gear is only available on non hybrid Corolla and Corolla Cross models it’s completely different setup compared to a hybrids eCVT and more complex like traditional automatics.
you missed out an actual spare tire available on non-hybrids because of the battery. i know someone actually went out and got a spare to leave in the trunk for their hybrid so that anxiety is real.
What would be the resale value be between the two if you sold them at 150k statue miles. I think the hybrid would be some what less. How much would a battery be if you had to replace it at the dealer?
Let me help you. Cablegate might be worth researching for those interested in buying a hybrid. Do your homework before making any purchase. A hybrid might not be right for you if you live in a region where salt or other corrosive snow melt products are used. Loving our 2024 XLE non hybrid purchase!
I just got the option to test drive a hybrid NX. And after driving it I can honestly say I'm much happier driving my NX350 gas version (I have a 2025 Lexus NX 350 Luxury). First I notice the hybrid felt under power, and then I realize that my gas version has a stronger engine with the turbo. Second the sound that the hybrid makes like a droning noise, did not like that. The driving experience on my gas feels great compare to the hybrid version. So that is a pass for me in the hybrid with the NX. Now I did not did a road test with the plug in, but from everything you have said that is the one to get. At this moment don't have a house, so gas is the best option for me. But after we buy our house then i feel like the plug in is the way to go, especially with the bigger horse power. And yes I understand the save in gas of a hybrid but I'm spending big money on NX and I want to enjoy the drive. If i want to save money then I will go for Toyota and save a lot more on gas. So that for me is not a factor, for me is the drive and the comfortable of a luxury product. And yes I get it Lexus luxury ain't what it used to be many years ago, but in 2024 it's better then a Toyota luxury. Example RAV 4 vs NX, I prefer to spend more money on the NX for the luxury level in todays market of 2024. So Luxury with a good driving experience are it for me...and of course the reliability of Toyota/Lexus makes it all the better then any other brand for me.
You should NOT buy a hybrid if you font drive much , as the battery will fail and would cost you $$ for a new one , they are meant to be driven sll the time , if you dont drive much , regular gas is the better option
Once the battery needs to be replaced, it’s practically junk. I had a hybrid and at 105k miles, the battery costs were double the value of the vehicle.
If you needed to buy a 2024 now/end of year, what's the best deal you could get on a gas vs. hybrid option? I've heard of someone getting an XLE Premium Gas model for $30k (3k off MSRP), but not sure if hybrids can hit that price as well (i.e. hybrid XLE non-premium is 33k MSRP). I think most of these lithium batteries will last 10-12yrs outside of extreme conditions.
At a $3500 difference list gas vs hybrid, not counting tax it will take you ballpark 21000+ miles to break even. You left out the higher cost of insurance for hybrid because of battery replacement in an accident. Not as small differences in cost as you present.
Another Very Important Advantages of buying the None Hybrid one. That is insurance. After a lot of research, I found out and saw that getting a Hybrid Vehicle, Insurance will be higher then the none Hybrid. I don't want to see anyone saying it's not true because I already spoke to few insurance companies, and I personally had a quote as well, and Hybrid was more cost effective than the none hybrids.
Correct & if you live in California registration. fees are ridiculously high...I bought the 2025 Camry hybrid 3 months ago. And I have buyer's remorse😦..can't wait to ger rid of this car & buy a gas car!
The Toyota cars that last 250,000 miles with out major repairs are the ICE coupled with the Aisin automatic transmission. These run for 20 years. Just my experience. The battery, the CVT and the electric motors will not last in the long term. Offer The customer what the customer wants, not what you want to sell.
First of all, the hybrid versions have been proven to be more reliable in general than the ICE versions. But even if you don't believe that, if the hybrids don't sell compared to the ICE since you said consumers don't want them, how come you have to wait longer for a hybrid
you tube is full of hybrid problems but try to find problems with the gas only models. I cancelled my order for the hybrid and ordered the xle gas 2025.
April 8 got CCH AWD SE exactly what I wanted ZERO wait. Had to take SR pack to get paddles I wanted, SR didn't. Don't use peddles, use SR all the time in warm months. I might have ideal location and commute. Warm months peg MPG 99.9+ in, near 70 back, @20% less cold. Overall 75% EV, coast neutral much. I had hoped for maybe 55mpg. Just checked my own tracking, 70 MPG since new. I know I'll be @85 now after learning how to hyper mile. BTW cuts maintenance cost 75% after warranty period as I'll use ice run %. I virtually never use friction brakes above stopping -10mph. Except difference just in gas within 3 yrs. 5th Gen, expect 200k air filter, 1 transmission change 60k only. No belts, pulleys, clutch. 10 year. Daily run Max battery life except 12v, @5 yr. Hope this is epic. I'll grit my teeth for annual oil change as it will be only for time not mileage. Can't do anything about tires 😢. There's NO COMPARISON IN PERFORMANCE! 50% Longer 0-60 for gas!
Let us know how that works out for you when you're on the side of the road having ruined your vehicle by changing the oil only once a year and redlining it off every traffic light just to prove the car is faster.
The best benefit right now is if you can wait another 6 months from now MSRP is going to go down, thanks to Marcelo for all the information though. Also remember delivery of vehicle is $2000 on top of msrp
Hybrid has nonsense CVT transmission which does not give a good drive feel...no.actual gears...CVT is not very long lasting....hybrid system will only save you gas in city driving.not on highways
At the moment (march 2024) things could unexpectedly change therefore new or 2nd hand hybrid a plug in gives u choice if fuel problems then u know u have electric range at least 15 MLS there & back car security can updated at cost dead locks+ immobilizer etc in emergency u won't be stranded but will have back up it may even save a life always be prepared if possible this is just my conclusion.
I am not impressed by hybrids whatsoever. The price difference does not make sense for me personally. It's different for everyone but other than gas milage being better on a hybrid, what's wrong with the gas Toyota? Especially if you keep your car for only 5-6 years, like I do. I've been driving gas Toyota's for a very long time with no major complaints. If the price was the same for a gas and a hybrid, I might consider checking out what everyone is so excited about when it comes to driving a hybrid. I purchased a gas 24' RAV4 LE with a $6000 discount from sticker price with no complaints.
It's my 3rd Toyota from the same dealership and the same sales manager. Sticker was $32,800. After negotiating for a while, the last price thrown out that I eagerly accepted was $26,900 from the sales manager. Autonation Toyota, Spokane Valley Washington.@@maricelasoria1140
Toyota the best cars my family and relatives own. They don’t need any maintenance. Just like my mother’s Camry, bought it in 2017 for $27,000. Did oil change once at 15,000Kms (3rd year). She traded it in last year with 70,000kms and the dealer gave her $21,000. Shes on her 2023 Camry now. Best cars to own and best trade in values. The dealer always pays us top dollar. excellent cars. Drive it and forget it. Trade it in 5 years before the repair bills and get a new one.
There really isn’t that much of a significant benefit. With Hybrids; you get the best of both worlds, better gas mileage, more drive power, and better resale value. With non-Hybrids; you don’t have to wait, and you save merely a grand or 2 🤷🏻♂️
Biggest difference. Good discounts buying a gas model. I saved about $ 5500 between the discount and lower MSRP. Highlander limited. No junk add -ons either. Lot of gas savings to make that up,
@@paulstein9258 To each their own. I was going to buy Gas only too but a Hybrid of higher trim presented itself for the same price, just more mileage but owned as a corporate vehicle.
I disabled the start stop on my gas RAV4. The AWD works better on the gas model. The mpg on the highway is nearly identical. The hybrid model drives better and will cost less to run as well as better resale value early in the life of the car. The hybrid model wasn’t available when I bought my RAV4 in December of 2018.
@@paulstein9258 You gotta push it every time. That’s worthless. I will forget everytime and put myself in danger. It’s pretty rare for a running engine to stall, but batteries do fail leaving you a sitting duck on a highway.
All right let's put some truth in here I'm glad you were talking about this no it's very very easy decision to make the hybrid one leave it there it's bad for your health bad for the environment it's overpriced it has a battery inside there which eventually will need to be replaced there's not a battery in this planet that will last a long long time and we know with time batteries lose their charge they don't hold their range anymore after charging them for a few hundred times and first of all you are a Salesman it's not rocket science here you never trust a Salesman and I mean never second of all this is not a secret the last 20 years Toyotas quality has went down the drain every vehicle that hits the market get a recall Toyota just cannot make anything right anymore I'm not sure if it's because they're doing it on purpose origin just doing it because of different ownership who knows but one thing we do know the quality is not as good as it used to be so when you put this all together again not rocket science the gas model is the best way to go oh yeah and by the way the only good Toyota on the lot is the RAV4 all the other ones leave them there they're all junk and keep in mind I have no reason to lie I am not a Salesman I just tell it the way it is!!!
This is how the video should of gone lmao!!! The #1 Reason why you should buy the Toyota Grand Highlander Gas Version is Because: Paying $5,000 for a Hybrid battery is absolutely ridiculous, because eventually you will have to replace it! I would rather spend $130 to $140 for a battery at Costco with a warranty included! End of Discussion
Hybrids are better they are faster than ice cars and they save you money ever week.!! I have a Toyota Venza 2022 and I spend 20 dollars a week and I use it every day to go to work Monday to Friday and I also use it on weekends. My father’s Toyota Corolla with the same miles driven he spends 35 dollars a week.
I have a hybrid too but your logic is somewhat floored. If you consider how much MORE you spent on the hybrid versus the ICE then you have to save the amount in fuel prices before you break even which will be YEARS.
Saves $780 per year in gas. Cost difference I’m currently calculating is about $4500 extra for hybrid so that’s just under 6 years payback time. I guess if you save the $780 yearly gas cost, over the 6 years you may be able to pay for a new hybrid battery, IF it’s required. It does have a 10 year guarantee though.
@@heathermartell8109 your average is wrong !!! You save 1,800 a year in a hybrid compared to gas power that cost you about 60 dollars a week that’s 3,120 a year compared to 20 dollars a week in a hybrid that’s 1,040 a year !!! Also Hybrids cost only 2,000 dollars more than a ICE vehicle right now. Hybrids battery last for over 20 years.!
Buy a Mazda or a Subaru instead. Toyota cars are boring, it drives like a Kia. The design looks 10 years old. The only good thing about Toyotas is the reliability but recent recalls suggests that reliability may not be as good as it was in the past.
If you want to promote hybrid, that is fine. At least know the biggest advantage of hybrid that you are not aware of. And you work for a Toyota business SMH.
I called a Toyota dealership almost 2years ago. I said I wanted to order a new Prius, or a new Corolla. I wasn’t interested in a plug in model. I said my average driving for now, should be about 3,000 miles per year with the car, and 3,000 miles per year with my pick up truck. They said they would not recommend me to buy a hybrid, because I wouldn’t be driving it enough to keep the battery charged. I took their advice, and bought a non-hybrid Corolla.with about 3,700 miles on it, it is going fine.
Another video I’ve seen from an experienced Toyota mechanic stressed that if you don’t drive at least 5,000 miles per year, then buying a hybrid would a detriment because of this very reason.
I have a 2014 Camry Hybrid XLE, bought new in Dec. 2013. No problem at all in 10+ years ownership. Only changed tires and brake pads once, and finally one fog light bulb went bad this month. Battery is till performing well as 10 years ago: 6.0L/100km in the summer, 6.5L/100km in winter, tracked and recorded in the past 14 months. I drove mostly in GTA.
Availability is no problem here in Houston, Texas. I walked in a Toyota dealership a year ago and drove out with a new Toyota RAV4. Price: is the main factor against hybrids.
same.... almost 10 grand more for a hybrid...
I'll be honest, I only watched the first couple of minutes, if the top two advantages are wait times and non-hybrid parts I'm not convinced there are any advantages at all. The time of year when you purchase is significant as well, my wife and only waiting 3 months for our 2024 Hybrid XLE purchased in November, delivered in February.
I drive an average of 12 miles per day with a few 150 mile trips a year. I traded my hybrid prius fwd in for a gas Honda HR V awd . Now I get , on average, 3% better mpg with the HR V regardless of the season.....I was very surprised at this !!
So, I would advise anyone who makes only short trips to be cautious when believing that they would save money with a hybrid that initially will cost more to purchase and may not be more efficient than a vehicle with a combustion engine.
Be careful!
Toyota's are Great Cars. I'm still driving my 2004, Lexus 320 SUV, just do regular maintenance on it, and I just bought a 2020 Toyota Highlander/ Gas only/Luxury Model and I Love it!❤
There is a good reason why Toyota gives you 10 years warranty for the hybrid battery and not 20. My neighbor had Camry hybrid that was 12 years old when the battery died. He called Toyota and they told him that his warranty is up, so he needs to buy a new battery for 5 000 dollars parts and labor.
That is reasonable in 2024
There’s brand new third party options with lifetime warranties that are half the cost of that, he should’ve shopped around.
Thank you for this comment. This is the type of real world info we need to share with each other
You're comparing Toyota batteries from at least 12 years ago to batteries today. They are not the same.
They can get a generic battery that is super good quality for 2800 to 3300
Thanks for the video Marcello. We have a Lexus hybrid in the family and I really enjoy the hybrid behaviour especially the AC working when the engine is off in hot summer.
I just bought a 24' RAV4 XLE Gas and love it. I just watched a video where it took 7 years with the hybrid, to make up the difference in price, through gas savings. I wanted a light weight, reliable SUV, at the best possible price. (my 3erd RAV4, 20,21,24).
❤Thank you. I'm getting minds Monday. I was not sure if I should wait for 2025. Researching they may not have gas only for 2025 sooo 2024 will due
@@princessjada3808 The 2025 RAV4 is virtually the same as the 2024 minus a couple of trims, which are no longer offered - no point in waiting.
I drive < 6k miles per year and don’t need AWD . My FWD XLE premium is all I need. It would take several years for me to recoup the extra cost of the hybrid. How the vehicle is used makes a significant difference.
Low mileage, better go for gas. Less parts as well means less parts to break.
Batteries when damaged in accidents will be a headache.
@@rexonpadre4653 New hybrid fear unlocked
I feel like we are safer with getting base model gas or hybrid toyotas that have the traditional key start. This is not the smart key. I feel like this would be one more deterrent to car theft in addition to the steering wheel club. I have the Hybrid LE - I am still open to hearing other thoughts but that's what I'm thinking.
What honestly makes you think that would stop a car theft from stealing the car. They are only looking for a car that has the most luxury and the most value and the most common stolen car and toyota is not the most stolen car. For me, I'm gonna go for the fully loaded RAV4 limited.
@@bradhaughton6698 The limited also doesn't have that stupid auto stop/start crap, period.
Nothing a faraday pouch won't solve with the smart key.
We just purchased a new non-hybrid 2024 RAV4 Limited. I'm not saying we won't get a hybrid but I've seen quite a of bit issues on them.
Simple fact is that the gas-only RAV4's traditional transmission has a better track record than any CVT design has, including Toyota's. That's another benefit, if you ask me. No annoying drone sound is a plus too. I want to sound like I'm driving a car, not a boat.
Wait time is 4 months on hybrid highlander. We ordered a new one on December 15. We were just informed it will be here in mid to late April.
One thing that is a key fact between the Hybrid & Gas. would be how many miles or kilometers you drive annually.
Absolutely right.
True. Buying the hybrid, taking into consideration 60 months of payments, yearly mileage, 55/45 city/highway and estimating gas mileage from $1.65/litre to $2.10/litre, means, for us, it would take from 5.5 to 7.5 years to recoup the extra hybrid cost.
We keep our vehicles a minimum of 10 years. Our current one is actually a 2010 Tucson with 310,000 km.
We would have to hope the battery would not have to be replaced after 10 years to make the hybrid cost effective.
Non hybrid means no hybrid cable gate issue.
I drive a lot in city amd in rush hour Toronto traffic. The new hybrids have an insane amount of wait times and the used ones do not justify the price tag. Guess, will need to go with a gas version
Where's the link in description as you said for cost of hybrid battery replacement???? Whats the cost of highlander hybrid battery??? 8000cad??????
It should be there. Double check. Thanks for watching
I will probably purchase a non-turbo Hybrid for my next car but one benefit I don't think you mentioned is that non-Hybrids usually get a real transmission with regular gears vs. a CVT with a launch gear. I believe that Toyota probably has the best CVT because of their unique 1st/launch gear before transitioning to the rubber band. :-)
Hybrid models use what’s called an eCVT, it’s a lot less complex transmission and very reliable even more so than a traditional automatic (27 years in service). The CVT with first gear is only available on non hybrid Corolla and Corolla Cross models it’s completely different setup compared to a hybrids eCVT and more complex like traditional automatics.
The excellent planetary geared “E” CVT, is a very good reason why you should buy a hybrid Toyota.
My Toyota Crown Platinum is not a CVT, which was one of the main reasons I bought it!
Good to know! I do like the Crown SUV, which looks more like a station wagon. 🙂 Thanks for the info!@@adamm9734
Thanks!@@aussiedeplorable8670
You are right - other than a little less body roll on the non-hybrid, the hybrid is a better car all around.
you missed out an actual spare tire available on non-hybrids because of the battery. i know someone actually went out and got a spare to leave in the trunk for their hybrid so that anxiety is real.
Depends on the model the rav4 hybrid has a spare tire
What would be the resale value be between the two if you sold them at 150k statue miles. I think the hybrid would be some what less. How much would a battery be if you had to replace it at the dealer?
Let me help you. Cablegate might be worth researching for those interested in buying a hybrid. Do your homework before making any purchase. A hybrid might not be right for you if you live in a region where salt or other corrosive snow melt products are used. Loving our 2024 XLE non hybrid purchase!
I just got the option to test drive a hybrid NX. And after driving it I can honestly say I'm much happier driving my NX350 gas version (I have a 2025 Lexus NX 350 Luxury). First I notice the hybrid felt under power, and then I realize that my gas version has a stronger engine with the turbo. Second the sound that the hybrid makes like a droning noise, did not like that. The driving experience on my gas feels great compare to the hybrid version. So that is a pass for me in the hybrid with the NX. Now I did not did a road test with the plug in, but from everything you have said that is the one to get. At this moment don't have a house, so gas is the best option for me. But after we buy our house then i feel like the plug in is the way to go, especially with the bigger horse power. And yes I understand the save in gas of a hybrid but I'm spending big money on NX and I want to enjoy the drive. If i want to save money then I will go for Toyota and save a lot more on gas. So that for me is not a factor, for me is the drive and the comfortable of a luxury product. And yes I get it Lexus luxury ain't what it used to be many years ago, but in 2024 it's better then a Toyota luxury. Example RAV 4 vs NX, I prefer to spend more money on the NX for the luxury level in todays market of 2024. So Luxury with a good driving experience are it for me...and of course the reliability of Toyota/Lexus makes it all the better then any other brand for me.
Is this a bait and switch. I bought a 2024 platinum with carmel glaze leather.
You should NOT buy a hybrid if you font drive much , as the battery will fail and would cost you $$ for a new one , they are meant to be driven sll the time , if you dont drive much , regular gas is the better option
Once the battery needs to be replaced, it’s practically junk. I had a hybrid and at 105k miles, the battery costs were double the value of the vehicle.
is hybrid good for short distances? I only do few KMs per day. I heard battery will not have enough time to recharge.
Hybrid is better for short distance driving
The computer detects a low battery and fires up the ICE to recharge it and once the battery is full it shuts down. This is fully automatic.
At a few km per day you won’t recoup the extra cost of the hybrid.
If you needed to buy a 2024 now/end of year, what's the best deal you could get on a gas vs. hybrid option? I've heard of someone getting an XLE Premium Gas model for $30k (3k off MSRP), but not sure if hybrids can hit that price as well (i.e. hybrid XLE non-premium is 33k MSRP). I think most of these lithium batteries will last 10-12yrs outside of extreme conditions.
At a $3500 difference list gas vs hybrid, not counting tax it will take you ballpark 21000+ miles to break even. You left out the higher cost of insurance for hybrid because of battery replacement in an accident. Not as small differences in cost as you present.
We were quoted $50 per year more for hybrid over gas.
@@heathermartell8109 You have a good ins co.
How much to replace the Hybrid Max system? how much more expensive for Hybrid Max batteries compared to a regular hybrid batteries ?
USA 🇺🇸 RAV4 hybrid are all over no problem getting them
I understand why brakes last longer in a hybrid. But why do tires also last longer?
Marcello,
Are the hybrids being sold at MSRP or over MSRP?
Another Very Important Advantages of buying the None Hybrid one. That is insurance. After a lot of research, I found out and saw that getting a Hybrid Vehicle, Insurance will be higher then the none Hybrid. I don't want to see anyone saying it's not true because I already spoke to few insurance companies, and I personally had a quote as well, and Hybrid was more cost effective than the none hybrids.
Oh my god did you even proofread your post?
Correct & if you live in California registration. fees are ridiculously high...I bought the 2025 Camry hybrid 3 months ago. And I have buyer's remorse😦..can't wait to ger rid of this car & buy a gas car!
The Toyota cars that last 250,000 miles with out major repairs are the ICE coupled with the Aisin automatic transmission. These run for 20 years. Just my experience. The battery, the CVT and the electric motors will not last in the long term. Offer The customer what the customer wants, not what you want to sell.
Expect 100 percent hybrid in a few years
You need some educating, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
First of all, the hybrid versions have been proven to be more reliable in general than the ICE versions. But even if you don't believe that, if the hybrids don't sell compared to the ICE since you said consumers don't want them, how come you have to wait longer for a hybrid
Hybrids have lasted as long as gas cars now and are even more reliable.
@jiayaw that's a good point everyone's booking a hybrid now since gas prices have increased.
you tube is full of hybrid problems but try to find problems with the gas only models. I cancelled my order for the hybrid and ordered the xle gas 2025.
April 8 got CCH AWD SE exactly what I wanted ZERO wait. Had to take SR pack to get paddles I wanted, SR didn't. Don't use peddles, use SR all the time in warm months. I might have ideal location and commute. Warm months peg MPG 99.9+ in, near 70 back, @20% less cold. Overall 75% EV, coast neutral much. I had hoped for maybe 55mpg. Just checked my own tracking, 70 MPG since new. I know I'll be @85 now after learning how to hyper mile. BTW cuts maintenance cost 75% after warranty period as I'll use ice run %. I virtually never use friction brakes above stopping -10mph. Except difference just in gas within 3 yrs. 5th Gen, expect 200k air filter, 1 transmission change 60k only. No belts, pulleys, clutch. 10 year. Daily run Max battery life except 12v, @5 yr. Hope this is epic. I'll grit my teeth for annual oil change as it will be only for time not mileage. Can't do anything about tires 😢. There's NO COMPARISON IN PERFORMANCE! 50% Longer 0-60 for gas!
Let us know how that works out for you when you're on the side of the road having ruined your vehicle by changing the oil only once a year and redlining it off every traffic light just to prove the car is faster.
@Sui778 since I always hyper mile only had it over @3.5k rpm once just to prove the acceleration 🤪
@@nosretep1960 Fine. But PLEASE change your oil every 6 months. Your vehicle will thank you for it.
The best benefit right now is if you can wait another 6 months from now MSRP is going to go down, thanks to Marcelo for all the information though. Also remember delivery of vehicle is $2000 on top of msrp
It’s 6 months later and prices haven’t gone down! Thanks for the tip, bricktop!
Hybrid has nonsense CVT transmission which does not give a good drive feel...no.actual gears...CVT is not very long lasting....hybrid system will only save you gas in city driving.not on highways
I have a Rav4 hybrid 2024 and the power response is scary.
For some models you Get a spare tire with non-hybrid NOT with hybrid.
At the moment (march 2024) things could unexpectedly change therefore new or 2nd hand hybrid a plug in gives u choice if fuel problems then u know u have electric range at least 15 MLS there & back car security can updated at cost dead locks+ immobilizer etc in emergency u won't be stranded but will have back up it may even save a life always be prepared if possible this is just my conclusion.
I am not impressed by hybrids whatsoever. The price difference does not make sense for me personally. It's different for everyone but other than gas milage being better on a hybrid, what's wrong with the gas Toyota? Especially if you keep your car for only 5-6 years, like I do. I've been driving gas Toyota's for a very long time with no major complaints. If the price was the same for a gas and a hybrid, I might consider checking out what everyone is so excited about when it comes to driving a hybrid. I purchased a gas 24' RAV4 LE with a $6000 discount from sticker price with no complaints.
How did you get $6000 off the stick price? Where did you pruchase you 2024 Rav4 LE?
It's my 3rd Toyota from the same dealership and the same sales manager. Sticker was $32,800. After negotiating for a while, the last price thrown out that I eagerly accepted was $26,900 from the sales manager. Autonation Toyota, Spokane Valley Washington.@@maricelasoria1140
There are definitely no $6000 discounts in Ontario.
Toyota the best cars my family and relatives own. They don’t need any maintenance. Just like my mother’s Camry, bought it in 2017 for $27,000. Did oil change once at 15,000Kms (3rd year). She traded it in last year with 70,000kms and the dealer gave her $21,000. Shes on her 2023 Camry now. Best cars to own and best trade in values. The dealer always pays us top dollar. excellent cars. Drive it and forget it. Trade it in 5 years before the repair bills and get a new one.
You didn't factor the cost of overall maintenance cost
ya 6 to 7 thousand for cablegate.
Battery. Toyota last. 8. Years. Cost. $3000. On. R4
If you drive everyday more than 100kms per day then a Hybrid makes more sense. Hybrid batteries don’t like to sit unused for long periods of time.
There really isn’t that much of a significant benefit. With Hybrids; you get the best of both worlds, better gas mileage, more drive power, and better resale value.
With non-Hybrids; you don’t have to wait, and you save merely a grand or 2 🤷🏻♂️
Biggest difference. Good discounts buying a gas model. I saved about $ 5500 between the discount and lower MSRP. Highlander limited. No junk add -ons either. Lot of gas savings to make that up,
@@paulstein9258 To each their own. I was going to buy Gas only too but a Hybrid of higher trim presented itself for the same price, just more mileage but owned as a corporate vehicle.
Hybrid cost more to purchase and insure.
DIY is easier on non hybrid than the hybrid.
The man works for Toyota. He does not work for objectivity.
Many toyota dealers charge a fortune in extras even on non hybrid models..so that makes the whole purpose worthless and mive away from toyota..
Best part about hybrid is….no stop start technology and linear power instant from the electric motors.
I disabled the start stop on my gas RAV4. The AWD works better on the gas model. The mpg on the highway is nearly identical. The hybrid model drives better and will cost less to run as well as better resale value early in the life of the car. The hybrid model wasn’t available when I bought my RAV4 in December of 2018.
Agree with Ryan but Toyota makes it easy to disable the stop start. The button is next to the steering wheel. No effect on gas mileage.
@@paulstein9258 You gotta push it every time. That’s worthless. I will forget everytime and put myself in danger. It’s pretty rare for a running engine to stall, but batteries do fail leaving you a sitting duck on a highway.
@@user-tb7rn1il3qif you bought a car that needs to push the bottom every time then you bought the wrong car. Not Toyota’s fault.
All right let's put some truth in here I'm glad you were talking about this no it's very very easy decision to make the hybrid one leave it there it's bad for your health bad for the environment it's overpriced it has a battery inside there which eventually will need to be replaced there's not a battery in this planet that will last a long long time and we know with time batteries lose their charge they don't hold their range anymore after charging them for a few hundred times and first of all you are a Salesman it's not rocket science here you never trust a Salesman and I mean never second of all this is not a secret the last 20 years Toyotas quality has went down the drain every vehicle that hits the market get a recall Toyota just cannot make anything right anymore I'm not sure if it's because they're doing it on purpose origin just doing it because of different ownership who knows but one thing we do know the quality is not as good as it used to be so when you put this all together again not rocket science the gas model is the best way to go oh yeah and by the way the only good Toyota on the lot is the RAV4 all the other ones leave them there they're all junk and keep in mind I have no reason to lie I am not a Salesman I just tell it the way it is!!!
This is how the video should of gone lmao!!!
The #1 Reason why you should buy the Toyota Grand Highlander Gas Version is Because: Paying $5,000 for a Hybrid battery is absolutely ridiculous, because eventually you will have to replace it!
I would rather spend $130 to $140 for a battery at Costco with a warranty included!
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You need consider accident. When hybrid parts get broken/damaged in accident，parts cost higher, and labor also.
The ONLY benefit is getting one faster... End of Video!
Hybrids are better they are faster than ice cars and they save you money ever week.!! I have a Toyota Venza 2022 and I spend 20 dollars a week and I use it every day to go to work Monday to Friday and I also use it on weekends. My father’s Toyota Corolla with the same miles driven he spends 35 dollars a week.
I have a hybrid too but your logic is somewhat floored. If you consider how much MORE you spent on the hybrid versus the ICE then you have to save the amount in fuel prices before you break even which will be YEARS.
Saves $780 per year in gas. Cost difference I’m currently calculating is about $4500 extra for hybrid so that’s just under 6 years payback time. I guess if you save the $780 yearly gas cost, over the 6 years you may be able to pay for a new hybrid battery, IF it’s required. It does have a 10 year guarantee though.
@@heathermartell8109 your average is wrong !!! You save 1,800 a year in a hybrid compared to gas power that cost you about 60 dollars a week that’s 3,120 a year compared to 20 dollars a week in a hybrid that’s 1,040 a year !!! Also Hybrids cost only 2,000 dollars more than a ICE vehicle right now. Hybrids battery last for over 20 years.!
Buy a Mazda or a Subaru instead. Toyota cars are boring, it drives like a Kia. The design looks 10 years old. The only good thing about Toyotas is the reliability but recent recalls suggests that reliability may not be as good as it was in the past.
Are Subaros and Mazda reliable?
@@BotchedInvestigation yes, both brands are recommended by several experts, including Consumers Report.
@@FFM115
Thank you I have a Rav 4 been thinking of Mazda and Subaru. How about Honda CRV Sport Model?
@@BotchedInvestigation not a fan but the new CRV is probably the best CRV Honda ever made.
Is the Rav 4 more reliable than a CRV?@@FFM115
I don’t want a ev t. I want an8 speed
You. Can. Get one. In. Chicago. Mar 2024.
Reasons why I WON'T buy a hybrid vehicle:
1. Cost to buy.
2. Cost to repair.
3. "Cable-Gate".
4. Never trust a "salesperson".
You are dead right. Cable-Gate was a consideration when I traded my Venza hybrid for a 2.4 T Highlander.
The. Insurance 😮😢. On. Hunday. Kia😢😢😢😢😢😢
If you want to promote hybrid, that is fine. At least know the biggest advantage of hybrid that you are not aware of. And you work for a Toyota business SMH.
Yea so basically there is no benefit of getting a non-hybrid.
you say they never have to replace hybred battery but my research says toyota battery is good for 4 years check it out yourself
Toyota has a normal battery in the rear. That’s the one that may fail at 4 years.
You missed the biggest benefit of hybrid and that's the environment.
If u care about environment u shouldn't drive car period; either walk or ride horse
Nobody really cares about that anymore. Besides, how do you think Hybrid/EV Batteries are made? Lol
Really. Fewer emissions but much worse for the environment. Do your research.
Bicycle?@@AbdiGelle
@@namvet1968i am not environment guy so I forgot bicycle my bad