My honeymoon was the worst experience I ever had!

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  • Martha Rena was a revend's wife. About eight years into their marriage, she decided to call it quits. Just what led her to make such a decision? Here is her story

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  • @davidmacharia6141
    @davidmacharia6141 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have listened this story before but my million dollar question is why not expose this cult by name we expose them

  • @blessedson2125
    @blessedson2125 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'm sorry for what Martha has gone through! From her story please believers and Christians it's worth noting the following:
    1. Never doubt your conscience, I wish she didn't do it,she could be better!
    2. Our parents are our second God,please listen and obey to them. Anybody who tries to push you away from your family ,count them as your worst enemy.
    3. God only asks for love offering and tithe which is 10%. Anything beyond that,it's a scam.
    4. It's good to read and understand the Bible.
    You can add more to this list!
    Redeem your time,for this days are evil!

    • @kap849
      @kap849 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on the money!!!
      To add to this, a wise man once said, "If you want to hear God speak, read the Bible. If you want to hear God speak audibly, read your Bible out loud "

  • @PaulNdungu-vn9rx
    @PaulNdungu-vn9rx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ngai karikii guthiaga Ngai ndahana unguo Jehovah atuteithie God is not oppressor please God show me the way

  • @tyramartins9435
    @tyramartins9435 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is an eye opener. Thanks so much for changing lives through your channel❤

  • @user-gx9pz1sf6l
    @user-gx9pz1sf6l ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Haiya I never thought Martha speaks Kikuyu so fluently. She's a beautiful soul. God restores

  • @annendungu8598
    @annendungu8598 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I honestly think solution ya Hawa false pastors n prophets ni kuwataja majina.
    We are tayad

    • @kevinkinyuru1696
      @kevinkinyuru1696 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will have a long list, its simple religion is brainwash. Hakuna heaven or hell people should be told the truth! You just stop existing, otherwise where do rdead animals go i 'everything he creater was good and perfect'..anamals dont know right or wrong! Religion is a social tool to enhance right or wrong like law..otherwise humans would live like anamals, every man for him or herself-rule of the jungle. Stop profefession to somethong you dont know if its true or jus a theory

    • @catherinekihia8844
      @catherinekihia8844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree 💯 wicked prophetess. Mugikuyu shame on her.

    • @wanjiruciru6237
      @wanjiruciru6237 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed,I'm sure right now she milking other people

    • @CupidsOfLina
      @CupidsOfLina 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Theyy definitely should be put in the open, though the followers have been robbed their sane minds , they will not listen

  • @tyramartins9435
    @tyramartins9435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an eye opener. Thanks so much for changing lives through your channel

  • @ziporahwidmaier7152
    @ziporahwidmaier7152 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Monika Sisi ni catholic WE are strong in faith pamoja na wewe

  • @sabsab9696
    @sabsab9696 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She's beautiful inside and outside
    May God lift her and ashame the devil. Thank you for eye opener

  • @NGINDA99
    @NGINDA99 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THE STORY OF MARTHA IS A VERY EDUCATIVE EXPERIENCE OF MANY PREACHERS WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF INNOCENT CHRISTIANS WHO LISTEN AND OBEY THEIR LEADERS WITHOUT FIRST CHECKING IF SUCH LEADERS ARE TRUE AND GENUINE LEADERS, THE BIBLE SAYS TEST EVERY SPIRIT TO SEE IF IS A GENUINE SPIRIT.

  • @miriamgacheru5544
    @miriamgacheru5544 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:03:33 1:03:44 @that why siwezi enda kanisa za kisasa Wacha niombe home nikikunywa johnwalker😂

  • @danielkimathi2551
    @danielkimathi2551 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Monicah for encouraging young couples whose loose hope on their in the name of church and marriage.

  • @Dear0705
    @Dear0705 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They need to expose the prophetess. Vile kuna wengi kenya. Ni biashara tu na modelling😅😅

  • @bernadettekiragu6167
    @bernadettekiragu6167 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    How I wish she can expose this prophetess in South Africa so that many won't fall into such traps.

  • @teresiahmumbi8559
    @teresiahmumbi8559 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Kagoni,thanks for your good work. watching from Atlanta...

  • @wangeciosteen8006
    @wangeciosteen8006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Waaah…just like a movie!,…in all I thank God together with her 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @davidthuks2128
    @davidthuks2128 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nuu ungiremwo kurunda mbogo thaka ta ino 😅😅 give me a chance I will do better ❤

  • @MarthaRena
    @MarthaRena ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Thank you so much Monica, I pray that everyone that hears the story will never fall into such a trap.

    • @wairegijulius9587
      @wairegijulius9587 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tuambieni jina ya huyu prophetes

    • @MarthaRena
      @MarthaRena ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wairegijulius9587 Kenya Data protection Act

    • @margaretwanjiru5285
      @margaretwanjiru5285 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your story is worth listening to.

    • @john-kieru
      @john-kieru ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pole sana my sister

    • @pfulu
      @pfulu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you also speak English or translate

  • @mamabianca4443
    @mamabianca4443 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wehhh what a touching story we should learn from her advice

  • @sarahngugi2779
    @sarahngugi2779 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wale wote wamgojae bwana watafanywa upya nguvu zao maishani i love your song it's so nice 👍👌

  • @moseskamau3120
    @moseskamau3120 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waao,so authentic and touching story.

  • @tabithanjeri8850
    @tabithanjeri8850 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks martha your story will enligten many God bless you

  • @kenkairu2100
    @kenkairu2100 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Aria Turoraga Kîrînyaga tûgathathai Ngai mwene nyaga tuuge Thaai Thathaiya Ngai witû Thaai

  • @catherinewambui4595
    @catherinewambui4595 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't know that Martha is a Kikuyu.
    I have heard her story in different platforms . May God bless her 🙏

  • @margaretwanjiru5285
    @margaretwanjiru5285 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I've listened to Martha's story in different platforms and i just can't get enough of her.She's such a good storyteller and her story is worth listening to..May God lift her to great heights.

    • @MarthaRena
      @MarthaRena ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen. Thank you

    • @khathywambui5776
      @khathywambui5776 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I pray it gets to the bigger audience..people need redeeming from these fake men and women of GOD

    • @rosekamau6724
      @rosekamau6724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Martha,a blessed person is always blessed, I'll be blessed again

    • @naominjururu4974
      @naominjururu4974 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haki may God lift her again.

  • @danielchege3986
    @danielchege3986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so blessed by this story. Blessings galore to Martha for sharing. Shalom. Shalom. Shalom.

  • @bettynjoki3115
    @bettynjoki3115 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love to listen to Martha's story, its an eye opener in so many ways

  • @janenjenga366
    @janenjenga366 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very educative life experience.Martha may Gid restore and heal you fully.Kindly note the adverts are too much .......

  • @FransiscahMuindi
    @FransiscahMuindi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Martha you a so beautiful mum I just love watching your story any time I come across it be blessed

  • @Patoville
    @Patoville ปีที่แล้ว +8

    She was too kind to be taken advantage of. Never be a yes kind of person to anyone. All in all she has a lovely personality.

    • @ericnjeru8906
      @ericnjeru8906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Let us know this Ex....so that he can't repeat this to another person.
      It seems the man has something UNSAID.

  • @arthurchege5245
    @arthurchege5245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Monicah, a good story well done. God Bless You
    Martha, shout out your story, no one should be punished in the name of God. You learnt a lot in life at a tender age, make it known to all

  • @francisbaariu942
    @francisbaariu942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing this story.kindly I wish people would know the South African prophetess...so that others can keep her off completely...I wish we can know her ex husband also so that other partner's can keep him off..God heal this lovely lady and protect her...

  • @josephinenjerikahura2845
    @josephinenjerikahura2845 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My people suffer for lack of knowledge. Good people let's read the Word for ourselves and pray for the spirit of discernment.

    • @esthernjuguna2690
      @esthernjuguna2690 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be careful Josephine when commenting on people platform,you are not an angel ati we niwe umenyaga who are spiritual,in the eyes of God you are a sinner, don't be a judge,ukiriria giti kia murungu

  • @gracenjoki7994
    @gracenjoki7994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi what a story but the good thing is you overcame the devil. God's grace will always be with you. Oh my God. Reveal yourself to your people. God bless you abundantly

  • @virjiniamuthoni
    @virjiniamuthoni ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One day I was living with a neighbor prophetess. Our houses were iron sheets wall. I would hear her praying for a woman to die because of stealing somebody's husband. I rebuked her like hell and everyone was shoked. She had spiritual seeing she could tell you how your home looks like back in the village.

    • @faithmwangi7486
      @faithmwangi7486 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She was a diviner. It's called spiritual witchcraft i.e. wishing your enemies evil yet the word of God tells us to love our enemies and do then good.

    • @pastorannneema
      @pastorannneema 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She wasn't a prophetess of God. She was a diviner and a spiritual witch. They are killers.

  • @anniethira8751
    @anniethira8751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Martha, thanks to God you saw the light dear one

  • @juciyorange5135
    @juciyorange5135 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ladies or man you better listen to this lady!

  • @peterkiruki9314
    @peterkiruki9314 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the best.keep your faith intact

  • @wanjiruwagocho9712
    @wanjiruwagocho9712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a huge eye-opener to me.

  • @perymaish1854
    @perymaish1854 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaai ...how I wish it is allowed to expose those cons😳

  • @judywambui6705
    @judywambui6705 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Welcome to metha ya kagoni na tupige likes kama kawaida ❤

  • @mjellykelly7356
    @mjellykelly7356 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The title of the story should have been,""be ware of rogue pastors'

  • @zachariamwangi8906
    @zachariamwangi8906 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a very interesting topic for Christians of today

  • @duncanmwangi4350
    @duncanmwangi4350 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Kagoni tiga kumaka ahunjia matwonirie nyoni ikirite gumboot

  • @user-ii8mf3eg3f
    @user-ii8mf3eg3f 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wah this is bad 😢😢 ....may the lord give us discernment 😊

  • @shiku-t256
    @shiku-t256 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Who else is reading comments while watching 😊

  • @angelwanjiku4063
    @angelwanjiku4063 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, what a dad Martha. Thank God for him. This is all blindfolding, divination and witchcraft. Wueh may God help us

  • @apostlesamuelkiariemuthoni7754
    @apostlesamuelkiariemuthoni7754 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waàah it's unfortunate, daughter of Zion but I love your spirit. May God open the eyes of many who are under the spell of the false prophets and charlatans.

  • @khathywambui5776
    @khathywambui5776 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hii ufala ata jcc parklands iko..ati instructiin from GOD..then in dollars...a prophet is flown from Ghana...ile pesa ataitisha..woe unto you if you cant raise the amount he asks...thus nonsense is every where

  • @marthambogo6758
    @marthambogo6758 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it start with baby steps

  • @josephkanyuira1172
    @josephkanyuira1172 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    She's very pretty ❤

  • @peterndirangu47441
    @peterndirangu47441 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wah!!unbelievable but God is faithful Martha Rena

  • @liliankaminto3243
    @liliankaminto3243 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an eye opener.a honeymoon destination should be selected by the couple.they fixed the atmosphere so that nothing happens.i wish they had become smart and changed the hotel .

  • @lucieallan9472
    @lucieallan9472 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Am an addict to kagonis channel

    • @margaretwangare10
      @margaretwangare10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤❤❤titaguku kumaguo

    • @hannahrhodah2018
      @hannahrhodah2018 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too. Halafu she is very professional and asking the relevant questions

    • @nelaswanjiru1209
      @nelaswanjiru1209 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Lucieallan.
      Me too.

  • @missparker2645
    @missparker2645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wakenya mko South Africa. SI MCHEZE KAMA NYINYI , MWANIKENI.

    • @mercy8026
      @mercy8026 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ama wenye walikuwa wedding watuambie best maid

  • @rosekinuthia4153
    @rosekinuthia4153 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very educative story alot of Christian are been financially abused.

  • @kuikui4866
    @kuikui4866 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You should mention this prophetess

  • @FransiscahMuindi
    @FransiscahMuindi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am proud to be Catholic where you can't get this sarakazi of panda mbegu sijui do this or this to be blessed

  • @margaretgichohi1642
    @margaretgichohi1642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hehehe Monicah ati ukire na giti

  • @reubenmwangi6772
    @reubenmwangi6772 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried to join to be come one of your channel member but i didn't find the join button

  • @elizabethnyaguthii6161
    @elizabethnyaguthii6161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NIE ma kanitha,alot of Wisdom is really needed religion and some churches aki

  • @Lulu-po3kn
    @Lulu-po3kn ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People MUST, MUST read the bible for instruction and not follow the so many fake pastors that a ruling in Kenya. It is so sad.

  • @EstherMso-bg1hf
    @EstherMso-bg1hf ปีที่แล้ว

    Metha ya kagoni .niijakaga muno n kuninira stress😢maangahota guthiyi na mbere n muturire

  • @FransiscahMuindi
    @FransiscahMuindi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mk you have asked a good question where will you find that God to give him the cash 😂😂😂

  • @user-zj5hl8ud4m
    @user-zj5hl8ud4m ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thax kagoni wacthing uk

  • @marykay2829
    @marykay2829 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wonders shall never end..I ever watched this lady somewhere else

  • @ziporahwidmaier7152
    @ziporahwidmaier7152 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ilia dikwa Manabii wa uongo
    Ni kizazi hii
    Jamani avoid pasters usije ukaingia nwenye najaribu

  • @consolatamuthonikamau6571
    @consolatamuthonikamau6571 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤best inspiration

  • @Lucywanjohi.
    @Lucywanjohi. ปีที่แล้ว +85

    This story will have a 100% meaning the moment she will expose this "prophetess " because I don't see any reason she keeps on narrating the story without making any change! How many people are still being manipulated by so called "woman of God" ? If you are not ready to mention their names for the sake of innocent souls, then, your story is just an entertainment!

    • @MarthaRena
      @MarthaRena ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kenya Data protection Act

    • @immaculatemuthoni616
      @immaculatemuthoni616 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it was me ningetoa siri as long as there is transaction under her account and name she can be jailed

    • @rose_wangari
      @rose_wangari ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kagoni don’t pass this. I second

    • @Kakwasi
      @Kakwasi ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MarthaRenawhat if you have evidence?

    • @esskey4915
      @esskey4915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MarthaRena what is she (the prophetess) being protected from?

  • @marywangui4682
    @marywangui4682 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Every time I hear this story I can’t help but think about partner A it’s so sad
    Wish we could hear from her 😢

    • @mamamalaika4413
      @mamamalaika4413 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I wonder where where this partner A is😮

    • @bjournkamau3441
      @bjournkamau3441 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's a good man I can testify.... it's unfair how Martha is trying to build her social media views by character assassination him!!!

    • @stellamacharia8802
      @stellamacharia8802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bjournkamau3441 please elaborate. You mean she is lying?

    • @katengina1585
      @katengina1585 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bjournkamau3441he has a right of reply.why are you speaking for him

    • @Enjeri
      @Enjeri 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bjournkamau3441you sound like the partner🚮

  • @moniwawarikuo2253
    @moniwawarikuo2253 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She's a good narrator, she's lovely
    Thanks be to God, she's delivered
    Ooh Lord deliver us from evil and all anxiety

  • @johngitau2032
    @johngitau2032 ปีที่แล้ว

    And the she is beautiful she deserves somebody like mi

  • @faithnjoki1471
    @faithnjoki1471 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ooh I remember her story. Me aki wacha tu

  • @margaretnjeri4064
    @margaretnjeri4064 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We want more about her 😢I guess she has untold stories, from here people should wake up n open their eyes n mind😮😮weeeh ku brain washiwa ukijiskiaga😊😊woi

  • @margretmurigi9798
    @margretmurigi9798 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wah!! prophetess my foot😞😞 kiu ni gitoi ta Mackenzie brainwash tupu aty nimpe percentage yake kwa harusi yangu 👺 siezi

  • @estherchege9074
    @estherchege9074 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have listened to this story quite in a number of days I had to pause and chew what Martha is telling us..I had come to conclusion and got the meaning of the story of ten virgin girls in the bible _ the fact that they were all virgins 5were fools and 5were wise.. something else when people ge saved and stay in salvation and maintain themselves so well what does salvation teach what difference can we have from a person of the world and a person of Christ surely I will urge everyone please lets read the bible whether saved or not and get real teaching from the word of God it will never mislead anyone IT'S VERY TRUE THAT PEOPLE PERISH DUE TO LACK Of KNOWLEDGE..

  • @perisnjeri7658
    @perisnjeri7658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very sad. I know you as humble girl since primary school. There's God of another chance.

  • @DomitillaNthiori-lt7jf
    @DomitillaNthiori-lt7jf ปีที่แล้ว

    Akhi monicah Leo si umenichekesha🤣🤣ur reaction ah 😅

  • @vosty6033
    @vosty6033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel her ' hindi iyo munogire munogire hî '😭

  • @user-vk6tv7hh8o
    @user-vk6tv7hh8o 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Majangiri wanatumia jina la yesu

  • @estherkiarie7489
    @estherkiarie7489 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But how does someone get to this level of brainwash ...unbelievable

  • @waridim9249
    @waridim9249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nî ndathikîrîirie Martha na gîthûngû no ndaigua ta itarî ndaigua rûgano rûu rîngî. Mwathani arothiî na mbere na gûkûmenyerera na kaana gaku. Asante Monica.

  • @juliuskamau9179
    @juliuskamau9179 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Anakaa Bishop Margaret Wanjiru... is she her daughter???😮

    • @bigg1091
      @bigg1091 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @Kakwasi
      @Kakwasi ปีที่แล้ว

      No akona boys

  • @carolkinyanjui2269
    @carolkinyanjui2269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Our God hates foolish people,lets always pray for wisdom and guidance from the Holy Spirit,

  • @hellensilas8411
    @hellensilas8411 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1 Timothy 6:10 Love of money is the root of all evil.

  • @Kenyasihami-s8h
    @Kenyasihami-s8h ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mm aki huwezi niambia leta pesa 😂😂.
    That's where I draw lines😂😂

  • @seanlovi8798
    @seanlovi8798 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everytime i hear the word "Prophetess" on someone's title. I simply see red flags and just walk away.

  • @johngoko3600
    @johngoko3600 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have heard the same story in another platform but t why are they afraid of exposing the prophetess

  • @user-ic3ko2cb6o
    @user-ic3ko2cb6o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waa story ya kushangaa sana miss kagoni

  • @shikuliz4134
    @shikuliz4134 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How do people get brainwashed ? Tondu nie ma im a overthinker nikio itari ndahika tondu goragwo na alot of soul searching

  • @kiambu_Finnest
    @kiambu_Finnest ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Weeeuh this is an eye opener to those who call these pastors sijui "my spiritual dad &mom"😂😂😂😂

  • @kittenworld2161
    @kittenworld2161 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My people perish for lack of knowledge

  • @trizahmacharia2939
    @trizahmacharia2939 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kagoni plss tutafutie mastery mpya,hizi za of late tumeziskia plss

  • @miriammugo5459
    @miriammugo5459 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nikio nyendete kuihoera ndi nyike

  • @judywanjiku7844
    @judywanjiku7844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pole sana Martha you are very beautiful

  • @monicahlishiar6631
    @monicahlishiar6631 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Congratulations.. since there is no expert in marriage I will learn from others 💓💝💝💖💖💖💖💖💝💝

  • @juliusmwangi8251
    @juliusmwangi8251 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May God help us to learn to listen to the voice of God 🙏

  • @talesfromkenya1761
    @talesfromkenya1761 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wah! Quite a story.The problem, however, is that on marriages gone wrong, we only get to hear the women's side. Is it that men do not want to speak up or they are never invited for these interviews? A single story is very dangerous. It can either be true or colossal lies and fabrications. But she is very consistent with her account.

    • @user-gq6om4pz9s
      @user-gq6om4pz9s 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a fake prophetess,may God punish her.

    • @estherenk
      @estherenk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you here to judge or learn

  • @ESTHERG5749
    @ESTHERG5749 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God have mercy rescue your children from Shephards who are wolves in sheep's clothes 🙏 pole girl God spared you you could have lost an organ in the operation 🙏🙏 listen to parents even if they are wrong. Thayu muingi rugendoini ruru

  • @estherirungu4632
    @estherirungu4632 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was not the proper way of sowing the but wickedness. But thanks be to God you came out of it.