Netflix is an American business and there are a lot of American shows that have worthwhile content through the entire 30 minutes, like Cops or Manswers.
lol that are banana trees,not real trees.A bat is way more harder to break,you need long time to condition the shin for that.But it is not healthy.........
***** True, but he is also a guy who many people think he is one of Thailands greatest without ever had a big stadium title. If there is a top 20 of Thailands best, Buakaw by far wouldn't be in it.
Did they seriously think an NFL punter and a soccer player could kick as hard as a Thai fighter? Muay Thai possesses the strongest kick in martial arts; meant to shatter bone.
@外人外人 yeah u said it by yourself. muay thai is more practical. Even if it`s true what you`re writing, that TKD can generate more force theoretically, what`s the use if you can`t use it?
@外人外人 Where have you heard that a taekwondo fighter's round kicks generate two times as much force as a Thai fighter? All the studies I have read, obviously excluding Sport Science due to their lack of any sensible controls have Muay Thai fighters regularly on top of the force output.
It's not just about how hard they kick. It's about how they kick. If an elite Taekwondo practitioner tried this with his instep he's gonna break his foot. Muay Thai fighters forearms and shins are like iron because of all the blocking they do among other things. Leg kicking with the instep isn't the best way to go.
+TheHypernaught I used to think the same until I started BJJ and now that's the best part for me. The slug fests are cool but it's a shame that some fighters aren't the same after taking a huge KO etc
I fucking hate this kind of shows, i mean it works on youtube where you can fast forward, but they drag out a 3 minute show to 20 minutes, so damn annoying!
MrKukenimunnen I'm not an American, MrDickinmymouth o.O What did you mean by that? Bobby Allen It really depends what show you're watching, a great example is mythbusters, they tell you the exact same fucking thing over and over again, it's horrible! Also I took commercials into consideration.
One of the first kicks I ever learned was the roundhouse. I learned butterfly kicks, hooks, heels, spinning kicks, side, front, back, and even jump spinning kicks and I still find that the most powerful kick is the roundhouse. Its not fancy or difficult. It's just a straight up powerful kick.
@@diskokulan4206 famous, thats true...but imagine how devasting middle kick will be if you look High kick. We must ask Magomedov's or Heath Hearing's liver
"I believe a powerful kick is more devastating than a powerful punch." *Facepalm* Obviously it is, legs are more powerful than your arms, they carry you everywhere.
Usually the punch is more powerfull, this is because your arm moves faster and strength is POWER x SPEED which means the arm results with less power but more speed then the leg which is more streght, but then again this guy has both power and speed in his legs
okii, thanks for sharing i actually thought an arm is stronger if faster, thanks dude, i am surprised how i found someone that corrects me without cussing xD
Michael Omelon I seriously doubt he said that. By definition, a good fighter would be fluid and able to use both arms and legs interchangeably without trouble (or at the most very little trouble)
Twang Twang Changpueks kicks weren't nearly as powerful as Apdej. He just used them against American Kickboxers who never take Thai kicks. And what about Yodsanklai Fairtex? The left kick?
i know bas can punch that hard. and all these muay thai guts talk trash about other styles in the internet when it stylistically generates way less force
Hip/shoulder separation. Let the lower half of the body work first while the upper body stays back and loaded. Doing this allows for the myofascial tissue on his left side to stretch, then snap back together creating foot and leg speed. If there are any baseball players or throwing athletes out there, research hip/shoulder separation, it will help you hit farther and throw harder.
There's an issue with the physics. The density of the item your striking matters. Notice from the football, to soccerball, to punching bag, then bat, than maple bat. The strike force goes up due to the density. The athlete is able to deliver more striking force the greater the resistance, due to the object not giving way at a lesser force "newtons of power generated". The truth is they did this for show for the "WOW" factor. The prior athletes probably had a MUCH higher striking force than 1/4 the striking power of the kick boxer but the object did not allow them to demonstrate. Not to say as prior younger athlete of both football, soccer, and combat sports, that the kick boxer didn't generate the kick of most force, or at minimum, would have had the least pain and practice kicking an object of higher density than our own shin bone. Just that regardless of the shin density, which can only be so much more dense, the leg speed and follow through can not be THAT much greater from professional to professional.
There's a couple videos of Buakaw kicking down a tree, however, the micro fractures don't come from kicking hard object, most of the conditioning comes from running and skipping (for most Thai fighters in Thailand, fighting is not a sport but is a job, so they train for 8 hours or more a day and fight every friday or so).
absolutely false. Conditioning comes from kicking the heavy bag, hard objects and bamboo tapping. Ive been pro for over 7 years. I trained at Tiger in Thailand. running helps but if running is all you need to do then basketball players could kick through a bat or marathon runners can kick through a bat and we all know that is not true.
@@skxlk2817 they start by kicking banana tree, because it soft, then gardually change to other hard object. They don’t have many tool remember this martial art come from thailand they not waste money on training equipment they just use natural thing..but the modern one whould use the equipment u said.
Everyone keeps mentioning taekwondo lls 1.Muay Thai has been labeled the most effective/dangerous form of stand-up for the past 15 years 2.Muay Thai is the science behind the art of 8 limbs, TKD is mainly flashy kicks, lack of science behind them 3.Put a real Muay Thai fighter agains a TKD fighter and its over, plain and simple, Thai guys are just tougher and have more efficent technique #KanpichitSuperRhinoGym
This is the most stupid comment in a while. I hate it when internet keyboard warriors assume if someone knows a martial art they will ONLY use that martial art. For reference nearly all the kicks in Muay Thai are in TKD so the fact that you slag of TKD and make Muay Thai look so great is hypocritical because guess what? They both share similar moves.
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LMFAO! They get a world class Muay Thai champion and they say "If he kicks just 2 inches lower he may fracture is leg". Thai fighters of his level have at least 20 years of shin conditioning so their bone density is much higher than a person who doesn't train. If he kicked lower and it didn't break, he would throw another until is does. Thai's are tough but with his experience he doesn't feel 100% of the pain because the nerve endings are dull from so many years of conditioning and fighting. Thai's check kicks with their shins and they throw 50+ kicks at each other in a match and their shins don't break. Why don't these shows bring in experts to properly inform the people they are watching? 🤯🤯
This Thai guy has very good technique with conditioning. If you notice his set up leg he does a CROSS STEP giving him the set up to torque with his hips, mid section and transferring the power to his legs. This guy is really good he just demonstrated a very good technique to generate that much power with conditioning.
Isaac Yeon lightly tapping your shins with something that has a wide surfaces and sometimes a bit harder, also let them rest and heal enough aswell otherwise you will hurt yourself. The other guys tips will work aswell very well
Muay thai has been recorded as having the strongest kicks. The reason being that the leg is used as a bat. The leg doesn't bend during the kick and it takes the shortest, straightest route. That means it's easily readable. But that doesn't matter because the speed on the route is faster than most kicks. Tae Kwan Do uses the knee as a fulcrum. So the PSI on that would only be a force from the knee to the ankle. Muay thai kick's PSI would be from the hip to the shin. Longer lever, more force.
Fight Science once did an episode on power strikes. Muay Thai came in third place behind Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do. The Muay Thai practitioner did about 1400 pounds of force on impact. Capoeira did about 1800. TKD came in at 2300. End result: I would not want to be hit by any of the three.
he is using kard chuek (muay thai ropes), they are used in combats only won by knock out. Seasoned fighters only. So basically showing off his mastery xD
@John Doe I know myself one guy, who's family member got killed because he got kicked in the head by a baby horse (dont know what it is in english, but not a pony) And what kind of steel was it? Those martial artists always want to show how tough they are, so they could easily just fake it by kicking some low quality steel.
Very interesting, thank you. What happens when Muay Thai guys age? Does all that abnormal calcium in the shin cause arthritis? Or do the bones adjust and age normally?
if i remember the legendary Rob Kaman the man with the legs of steel can break easily 3 baseball bates impressive viking from holland the second country of thai boxing
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:21 ⚾ *Introduction: Breaking Baseball Bats with Kicks* - Explanation of how major league sluggers use wooden bats and the force required to break them. - Introduction of the question: Can a sport generate enough kicking power to break a baseball bat? - Three athletes, NFL punter Mike Ciphers, MLS star striker Edson Bottle, and Muay Thai champion Melchor Menor, are introduced for testing. 02:34 🦵 *Testing Kicking Force* - Testing the kicking force of the three athletes using sensors. - Mike Ciphers produces 200 pounds of force, Edson Bottle generates 250 pounds, and Muay Thai champion Mel Menor records a staggering 770 pounds. - Focus on Mel Menor's powerful kicks, setting the stage for attempting to break a baseball bat. 04:22 🤔 *Safety Concerns: Breaking the Bat* - Highlighting the potential danger of breaking a bat with a kick and the risk of injury, especially for Mel Menor. - Explanation of the target spot and the consequences of hitting outside the optimal zone. - Building anticipation for the actual attempt to break a bat with a kick. 05:40 🦴 *Breaking the Bat: Ash Wood* - Testing Mel Menor's kick against a major league baseball bat made of ash wood. - Mel Menor's kick generates over 790 pounds of force, successfully breaking the bat. - Discussion on how Muay Thai masters like Mel build up their shin bones through years of hard kicks, creating a surface as hard as stone. 07:13 🌳 *Breaking the Bat: Maple Wood Challenge* - Introducing the challenge of breaking a maple wood bat, known for being tougher than ash wood. - Mel Menor's kick generates 1000 pounds of force, successfully breaking the maple bat. - Highlighting the toughness of maple wood and the impact on Mel Menor, revealing blood after the kick. 08:20 🏋️♂️ *Conclusion: Muay Thai Master's Powerful Kicks* - Summary of the testing, showcasing Mel Menor's ability to break both ash and maple wood bats with powerful kicks. - Emphasis on Muay Thai masters' capability to build extremely hard shin bones through years of training. - Recognition of Mel Menor's prowess in kicking, making him capable of handling both ash and maple wood bats effectively. Made with HARPA AI
Would have been interesting to measure the lowkicks power from someone like Buakaw, who is _famous_ for his powerful lowkicks. (as proven by his many fights in which the opponent tko/ko, from them)
Here is the kyoshin karate butthurt! Like people always complain which martial art is best but you fools should know it's never the martial art it is always the user!
Kyoushin Karate butthurt!... You are an arrogant fool!... You didn't understand my words. You make a wrong comparison between my statement and that wrong idea in whch you claim, i was glorifying Kyokushin Karate. If you did not manage to get my words, what i was saying, is that this test have been done a thousand times, before they did it with this Muay Thai practicioner, it is nothing new at all. And if you felt respect, admiration for this guy doing it. Then why would't you do it for those thousand of other people, that have done it before. And not only Kokushin Karatekas but many other practicioners of martial arts have done this feat before.
I thought similar. For Muay Thai kicking I thought he was quite close to the foot. A couple inches further up the shin would've had a more solid impact.
Levon iTz clearly you've never kicked a thai bag with your foot... Kicking with your shin hurts you but it hurts the other guy much more. kicking with your foot hurts you 1000x more than it hurts them. also thai fighters stand on the balls of their feet.
you need to have the strongest base as possible while kicking, otherwise you will run out of balance if you miss or if someone kick your leg (the one on the ground) you're gone for good.
Krauty McLederhosen Actually you can only apply so much force on a smaller object because it does not "hit" back as hard. Try killing a mosquito by punching it out of the air. Not even Mike Tyson could do it. So, sorry, you fail physics 101. Even a child can kick with more than 200 lbs. of force if the target is heavy.
yotsub29 Yes, you are 100% correct. Either of those other two athletes could have easily broken that "anchored" bat as well, just as they could apply much more force to an anchored football or soccer ball. Glad to see someone here knows what they are talking about. This show is an insult to science.
+Krauty McLederhosen You still didn't address the main point to which we are responding. Namely that one can apply much more force to a heavy bag than to a soccer ball or football which moves away too fast for you to apply the required 700 lbs. of force. Why do you think they had two guys holding the bat still instead of just hanging the bat loosely from a rope? It's because it would move away at first contact making it nearly impossible for a human to break. They disqualified the other two athletes based on an unfair, unscientific comparison. Now wipe away your boyfriend's crusty splooge from your eyes and read what I have written, because it is all true.
+Krauty McLederhosen Dude, it's the comment from yotsub29 you responded to in this thread. He was referring to this portion of the video: 1:50 - 2:20. Peace.
Actually it doesn't matter what object they kick. The other objects have much more acceleration than the bag, so the bag has more mass but less acceleration. Either way it doesn't matter because he has a device that measures his kicking speed as well as his for weight. Multiply those two and you have your momentum.
Ippo2k16 Badr carries 40-50 more KG over buakaw, im pretty sure he'll have more force in his lowkicks despite the beast buakaw is Like 170cm vs 195cm, big difference
Ippo2k16 I dont, its logic, Both barely have any fat on their body in their prime. They both have the same kickin technique, using their full bodyweight n' hip movement.. Just check some of badr hari's compilation, you'll udnerstand the force he is capable off But yo, aint no saying for sure, but i;m pretty sure in my own way since BADR was trained at mike's gym, and they supply their fighters with the typical lowkick finishing move, after a combination
hardest kick I ever saw recorded was in the show fight science by a Australian tae kwon doe black belt [ I want ot say 5 degree] 2300 pounds of force traveling at 139 mph
People arguing punches are stronger than kicks... because X and Y heavy weight punched 2,000+ pounds... Well then a sumo fighter jumping from the second floor is stronger, he can generate lots more strength with his ass...
Eli instead of claiming one is stronger than the other, those idiots should be doing some research and judge athletes within the same weight classes and what not. ppl b comparing a featherweight to a heavyweight.
kaiser2324 that is true tho. If it's a person is not as big as another you shouldn't compare cuz I don't think a kick from a 145 or 155 pound person could be stronger than a punch from 185 - 200 pound person cuz a bigger person has more weight to channel into strikes. but if comparing people of same size and weight then kicks are more powerful than punches.
Looking back on the 770lbs recorded force. Mind you, it was done on a weighted bag which holds its own. So to compre his kick on different bats, but not the same weight as the bag is somewhat erroneous..the height of his kick should also be similar... he did a middle leg kick on the bag, but does low leg kicks on the bats. Huge respect for Mr Mel. Yes, he'll break them coz he probably has more than 800lbs kick in him. Very unsafe for the bat holders too! Production crew should've thought of some"thing" safer. 🥲
I think you'd have to be really good to recreate a Muay Thai kick on a whim, you have to be pumping with adrenaline and animalistic rage and fear to get a full force kick.
Why? Instep bones Can't be powerfully condition There's 100% chance that Bren foster's Kick (The Taekwondo Guy) will fail Miserably and brealing his Instep
I like how they have this high production set up to analyze the force of his kick and make cool edits, but the way they set up the bat is by having some random guy laying on the floor.
I’m just here to say that Mauj Thai is a superior fighting technique. Reason why most MMA fighters are learning it. It’s effectiveness and power is beyond being pretty like most styles.
Whata Loadashit He could kick with power too, just watch some of his videos (not movies) but actual demostrations where he literally sent men flying. He was deceptively strong.
since when is force measured in pounds? Not only is it not a metric unit, which is pretty dumb in itself, but it´s not even a unit of fore! Maybe I´m just easily irritated but this shit pisses me off...
just watched a video where they used the hanging bag with the sensors, and a Tae Kwon Do kick produced 2300lbs force!!! They should of used him on this show!
the lever effect amplifies force on the weakest point, that´s why you can sprain your back by lifting 10 kilograms with arms fully extended to the front while being able to lift 50 kg close to the body. Hitting the thickest part makes breaking the bat easier.
That's cool and really amazes me. I wish I'd taken up Muay Thai or really any martial art when I was a kid, but I never thought about it, and now I'm old. Very impressive. When I was young, I used to punch concrete pillars for no real reason. I wonder if doing that hardened up my knuckles, and if they went back to normal once I stopped doing it, or if it works that way.
My friend told me there are two perfect ages when you can start a martial art. 5 years and now. I'm 24 and I just started MMA. I don't know how old you are but we have new guys over 40 coming to train with us. You're never too old :)
10 seconds of content in 10 minutes... American tv is so frustrating!
It is quite annoying.
Netflix is an American business and there are a lot of American shows that have worthwhile content through the entire 30 minutes, like Cops or Manswers.
TheSwampHumanoid To be fair this isn't "John Wick" you can't have action all the way through without some filler.
TheSwampHumanoid "he can kick some serious ASH" I wanted to kill someone when he said that. those puns are so infuriating.
TheSwampHumanoid so true they are just repeating the same thing
Buakaw should be in this
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+Ninja Of The Darkness Or Saenchai
pfft a bat, he kicked a fucking tree down.
lol that are banana trees,not real trees.A bat is way more harder to break,you need long time to condition the shin for that.But it is not healthy.........
***** True, but he is also a guy who many people think he is one of Thailands greatest without ever had a big stadium title. If there is a top 20 of Thailands best, Buakaw by far wouldn't be in it.
Did they seriously think an NFL punter and a soccer player could kick as hard as a Thai fighter? Muay Thai possesses the strongest kick in martial arts; meant to shatter bone.
Taek won do has most powerful kicks
@@virendrabisht6595 nopeee tkd uses feet muay thai hits with the shin
@外人外人 yeah u said it by yourself. muay thai is more practical. Even if it`s true what you`re writing, that TKD can generate more force theoretically, what`s the use if you can`t use it?
@外人外人 Where have you heard that a taekwondo fighter's round kicks generate two times as much force as a Thai fighter? All the studies I have read, obviously excluding Sport Science due to their lack of any sensible controls have Muay Thai fighters regularly on top of the force output.
It's not just about how hard they kick. It's about how they kick. If an elite Taekwondo practitioner tried this with his instep he's gonna break his foot. Muay Thai fighters forearms and shins are like iron because of all the blocking they do among other things. Leg kicking with the instep isn't the best way to go.
Makes me proud to practice Muay Thai :). Mind you, every art of fighting are great in their own right.
+Prakash Rathod Muay Thai is better to watch than MMA. I hate that grappling on the floor.
+TheHypernaught Subjective view
+TheHypernaught I used to think the same until I started BJJ and now that's the best part for me. The slug fests are cool but it's a shame that some fighters aren't the same after taking a huge KO etc
+Prakash Rathod bj is the best
+Broski MaKorski..... That's your opinion. But I think MMA is the best.
I fucking hate this kind of shows, i mean it works on youtube where you can fast forward, but they drag out a 3 minute show to 20 minutes, so damn annoying!
Exactly and i was also thinking it would be great if there was a sport science channel on youtube
Americans...
its 10 minutes dumb ass
I think he is taking the commercials into account but 10 min show plus commercials which they cut out.
MrKukenimunnen I'm not an American, MrDickinmymouth o.O What did you mean by that?
Bobby Allen It really depends what show you're watching, a great example is mythbusters, they tell you the exact same fucking thing over and over again, it's horrible! Also I took commercials into consideration.
"I honestly felt nothing really"
Damn the Muay Thai guys really do prepare for wars in the cage.
If you look at the history it was developed for if the soldiers lost their weapons they could still fight
@@derpderp4591 yea i wonder why it is effective it my fav martial art
Muay Thai is in a ring
@@Ivan-pv4cu it was originally meant for war so the techniques are meant to kill and maim you
@@Ivan-pv4cu Muay boran check it up
Three strongest legs on the planet? Get Buakaw and then you probably have the strongest leg on the planet.
Exactly :)
Really? Just a fkin banana tree that's relatively weak.
You haven't seen him fight? You haven't have you... lmao.
Buakaw is a fucking machine. Its unreal. If you want to see one of the best, if not the best FIGHTERS on the planet period, go watch that man fight.
Sean
That kick would break my leg before it lands 😂😂😂
@Joe Doe that made me laugh😂
One of the first kicks I ever learned was the roundhouse.
I learned butterfly kicks, hooks, heels, spinning kicks, side, front, back, and even jump spinning kicks and I still find that the most powerful kick is the roundhouse.
Its not fancy or difficult.
It's just a straight up powerful kick.
More powerful if you finish it in tornado kick. With the extra spin, you give more power to the kick.
Why there is no Cro Cop? xD
Сашко Сашкович yes finally someone say it
That's bloody OVERKILL!!
Cro Cop is famous for his headkicks, And headkicks are not the kick that will be the most powerful.
Imagine. That’s like 7000000 lbs of force
@@diskokulan4206 famous, thats true...but imagine how devasting middle kick will be if you look High kick. We must ask Magomedov's or Heath Hearing's liver
If that was Mirko Cro Cop there would be no hesitation in kicking the bat.
Mirko Cro Cop would ask them to turn the baseball around because that's some sissy shit
Thai kick is harder
@@magoomjey2287 cro cop is almost twice the size as the average muay thai fighter
Never just connect, always go through the target.
"I believe a powerful kick is more devastating than a powerful punch." *Facepalm*
Obviously it is, legs are more powerful than your arms, they carry you everywhere.
Haha I know, right! xD
Usually the punch is more powerfull, this is because your arm moves faster and strength is POWER x SPEED which means the arm results with less power but more speed then the leg which is more streght, but then again this guy has both power and speed in his legs
okii, thanks for sharing i actually thought an arm is stronger if faster, thanks dude, i am surprised how i found someone that corrects me without cussing xD
Andrei Giugiuc
perfect example of power. George Foreman hit with much more power then mayweather. Yet mayweather punch is way faster.
Michael Omelon I seriously doubt he said that. By definition, a good fighter would be fluid and able to use both arms and legs interchangeably without trouble (or at the most very little trouble)
let buakaw do the test he brake the fucking testing machines :P
lool
Dieselnoi and Samart too, all three of them would destroy the equipment :D
U r right man lol
1st hardest kick is Samkor Kiatmonthep.
2nd is Changpuek Kiatsongrit.
3rd is Apidej Sithiraan
4st is Nokweed Davy
5st is Yoddecha Sityodthong
Twang Twang
Changpueks kicks weren't nearly as powerful as Apdej. He just used them against American Kickboxers who never take Thai kicks. And what about Yodsanklai Fairtex? The left kick?
"A powerful kick is more devastating than a powerful punch." I learned something today.
Now let's test it out with a metal bat.
+biobiobio7777 Does a mercury filled bat bottle count?
Tony Ferguson is that type of guy...
@@lukasmerkel9644 That chokes kids out for breathing conditioning.
There's a video of this Chinese guy kicking metal objects
Some guys can make it: th-cam.com/video/IUGg7KGUUHU/w-d-xo.html
Should have brought in Shane Fazen from Fighttips
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i think you meant Buakaw (pro Mauy Thai fighter)
yea this guy was less than half the force of bren foster
i know bas can punch that hard. and all these muay thai guts talk trash about other styles in the internet when it stylistically generates way less force
Kai B. He did break a bat but he needed to push it a little bit after the hit because it didn't quite go through.
Hip/shoulder separation. Let the lower half of the body work first while the upper body stays back and loaded. Doing this allows for the myofascial tissue on his left side to stretch, then snap back together creating foot and leg speed. If there are any baseball players or throwing athletes out there, research hip/shoulder separation, it will help you hit farther and throw harder.
THIS IS WHY I LOVE MUAY THAI
So it is just like getting striked with a bat of stone at 800lbs of force. HOLY FUCK
Trymchannel THEY ARE TRYING TO END HIS CAREER SMH
Imagine he kicking your shin
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There's an issue with the physics. The density of the item your striking matters. Notice from the football, to soccerball, to punching bag, then bat, than maple bat. The strike force goes up due to the density. The athlete is able to deliver more striking force the greater the resistance, due to the object not giving way at a lesser force "newtons of power generated". The truth is they did this for show for the "WOW" factor. The prior athletes probably had a MUCH higher striking force than 1/4 the striking power of the kick boxer but the object did not allow them to demonstrate. Not to say as prior younger athlete of both football, soccer, and combat sports, that the kick boxer didn't generate the kick of most force, or at minimum, would have had the least pain and practice kicking an object of higher density than our own shin bone. Just that regardless of the shin density, which can only be so much more dense, the leg speed and follow through can not be THAT much greater from professional to professional.
He reached 1,000lbs of force with the maple bat
There's a couple videos of Buakaw kicking down a tree, however, the micro fractures don't come from kicking hard object, most of the conditioning comes from running and skipping (for most Thai fighters in Thailand, fighting is not a sport but is a job, so they train for 8 hours or more a day and fight every friday or so).
They live a life that's almost unbelievable. They'd kill a normal person with 1 kick
Not true bud. You can run and skip all day you are never gonna break a bat. Training and sparring is what makes your leg strong enough to do that
They use wooden dowels and roll them up and down their shins as well. At least what I’ve heard. I’m not Thai
absolutely false. Conditioning comes from kicking the heavy bag, hard objects and bamboo tapping. Ive been pro for over 7 years. I trained at Tiger in Thailand. running helps but if running is all you need to do then basketball players could kick through a bat or marathon runners can kick through a bat and we all know that is not true.
@@skxlk2817 they start by kicking banana tree, because it soft, then gardually change to other hard object. They don’t have many tool remember this martial art come from thailand they not waste money on training equipment they just use natural thing..but the modern one whould use the equipment u said.
how much amount of force can breaks Anderson Silva's Leg?
As much force as he could throw versus a knee, that does not go well for the shinbone...
hahahaha
his leg is allrdy broken in the final againt the american guy ;)
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Briguy702 bare in mind he hit the knee bone. Even a baseball bat hitting a knee bone can break.
Everyone keeps mentioning taekwondo lls
1.Muay Thai has been labeled the most effective/dangerous form of stand-up for the past 15 years
2.Muay Thai is the science behind the art of 8 limbs, TKD is mainly flashy kicks, lack of science behind them
3.Put a real Muay Thai fighter agains a TKD fighter and its over, plain and simple, Thai guys are just tougher and have more efficent technique
#KanpichitSuperRhinoGym
Bullshit, the muay Thai guy got bashed in that Bloodsport movie.
LMG LMG Guess what. It's a movie.
This is the most stupid comment in a while. I hate it when internet keyboard warriors assume if someone knows a martial art they will ONLY use that martial art. For reference nearly all the kicks in Muay Thai are in TKD so the fact that you slag of TKD and make Muay Thai look so great is hypocritical because guess what? They both share similar moves.
Put a (good) Kung Fu practitioner in a fight with any of them, they will honestly get ruined. By good though, I mean Red Sash level or higher.
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i wish we could see sakmongol, payakaroon, buakaw and yodsanklai do the same
LMFAO! They get a world class Muay Thai champion and they say "If he kicks just 2 inches lower he may fracture is leg". Thai fighters of his level have at least 20 years of shin conditioning so their bone density is much higher than a person who doesn't train. If he kicked lower and it didn't break, he would throw another until is does. Thai's are tough but with his experience he doesn't feel 100% of the pain because the nerve endings are dull from so many years of conditioning and fighting. Thai's check kicks with their shins and they throw 50+ kicks at each other in a match and their shins don't break. Why don't these shows bring in experts to properly inform the people they are watching? 🤯🤯
This Thai guy has very good technique with conditioning. If you notice his set up leg he does a CROSS STEP giving him the set up to torque with his hips, mid section and transferring the power to his legs. This guy is really good he just demonstrated a very good technique to generate that much power with conditioning.
Force = mass x acceleration.
E=mc^2
Force = Mass × Acceleration SQUARED.
Daniel Bray what
Force doesn't break bats anyway. Pressure does.
Daniel Bray do you mean kinetic energy? 1/2 mass x velocity^2?
of course a kick is a lot stronger than a punch. wtf
did you even watch the video?
nop not because the leg is big and strong it more stronger it about the surface area the point of impacte like a bullet small but fast
micalex23 cuz it's force=mass x acceleration.
micalex23 But what is more useful, a kick or punch. Boxing is my hobby and I'm watching kickboxing and it looks more useful.
Tell that to boxers.
"if he misses and kicks 2 inches lower, he might kick and break his own shin"
(kicks 3.5" too low, breaks bat anyway)
Well then
Im Mauy Thai Im the Best In My Class At It And We Use Our Shins
Chicken Bro it sounds brutal, I do TKD and I try to condition my shins. Any tips?
@@isaacyeon6334 Kick the bag and do running. There is no secret to it.
@@isaacyeon6334 100% just all in the heavy bag + running + skipping. Start with 100 per leg per day.
Isaac Yeon lightly tapping your shins with something that has a wide surfaces and sometimes a bit harder, also let them rest and heal enough aswell otherwise you will hurt yourself. The other guys tips will work aswell very well
The first time I heard of Mel was on Stan Lee’s Superhumans and what he did was pretty awesome.
Imagine the bat being your leg...
Muay thai has been recorded as having the strongest kicks. The reason being that the leg is used as a bat. The leg doesn't bend during the kick and it takes the shortest, straightest route. That means it's easily readable. But that doesn't matter because the speed on the route is faster than most kicks. Tae Kwan Do uses the knee as a fulcrum. So the PSI on that would only be a force from the knee to the ankle. Muay thai kick's PSI would be from the hip to the shin. Longer lever, more force.
Fight Science once did an episode on power strikes. Muay Thai came in third place behind Capoeira and Tae Kwon Do. The Muay Thai practitioner did about 1400 pounds of force on impact. Capoeira did about 1800. TKD came in at 2300.
End result: I would not want to be hit by any of the three.
is it really necessary to have his hands wrapped to kick a bag?
u get bruises if u dont
+DaddyTV bruises on what exactly? he's not punching anything.
+Mr. Boarbaby my bad i didnt see the kick the bag part
he is using kard chuek (muay thai ropes), they are used in combats only won by knock out. Seasoned fighters only. So basically showing off his mastery xD
It's super necessary
bring in Mirko Cro Cop!
Meetyouinhell1 Yeah :D
Glad he wrapped his hands
"He can really kick some serious ash" xD I love it
I couldn't even imagine a leg kick from this guy.
They should've took buakaw
This kick is lethal!Great vid!
As a fellow martial artist, i looked at the guy and just knew it was easy mode for him.
Would you agree that the conditioning is likely to leave him paralysed later on in life?
@@sugs1191 No
This man can easily break through the furniture corners without even breaking his little toe.
how powerful is horse kick 🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥
More powerful than any human.
@John Doe I know myself one guy, who's family member got killed because he got kicked in the head by a baby horse (dont know what it is in english, but not a pony) And what kind of steel was it? Those martial artists always want to show how tough they are, so they could easily just fake it by kicking some low quality steel.
Idk but i think he was talking about the kick “horse kick” and not a kick from a horse
Melchor Menor's a beast in his Muay Tha style, and Thai fighters are not one to mess with as they trained in the style since childhood.
"And he can really kick some serious ash!"....
Jauz I was reading that as soon as the narrator said that.
Try that with a Cold Steel Polypropylene bat.
You try do that with a wood bat, Or even a broom stick at that
Very interesting, thank you. What happens when Muay Thai guys age? Does all that abnormal calcium in the shin cause arthritis? Or do the bones adjust and age normally?
Ah yes a video i saw 8 years ago. thanks for suggeting it again youtube
I'm going to test my forehead against an aluminum bat now
if i remember the legendary Rob Kaman the man with the legs of steel can break easily 3 baseball bates impressive viking from holland the second country of thai boxing
“Kick some serious ash” 💀💀💀
The "kick some serious Ash" pun at the end...
thouth he said buthole in 1:24
cinstin n "add some butthole"
Where's roberto Carlos
He doesn't do Muay Thai.
@@wrestler-kickboxer2524 he does football aka soccer
@@ezeola6348 if he was a muay thai fighter better believe he would have one of the strongest kicks
Nick Rodriguez probably not
Puncing bag force meter : 1 year warranty with terms and conditions apply.
Terms and conditions : no Roberto Carlos.
He is also on Stan Lee's Super Humans and they measured his kicking force at 1000lbs. Also, he's gotten a lot bigger since this show
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:21 ⚾ *Introduction: Breaking Baseball Bats with Kicks*
- Explanation of how major league sluggers use wooden bats and the force required to break them.
- Introduction of the question: Can a sport generate enough kicking power to break a baseball bat?
- Three athletes, NFL punter Mike Ciphers, MLS star striker Edson Bottle, and Muay Thai champion Melchor Menor, are introduced for testing.
02:34 🦵 *Testing Kicking Force*
- Testing the kicking force of the three athletes using sensors.
- Mike Ciphers produces 200 pounds of force, Edson Bottle generates 250 pounds, and Muay Thai champion Mel Menor records a staggering 770 pounds.
- Focus on Mel Menor's powerful kicks, setting the stage for attempting to break a baseball bat.
04:22 🤔 *Safety Concerns: Breaking the Bat*
- Highlighting the potential danger of breaking a bat with a kick and the risk of injury, especially for Mel Menor.
- Explanation of the target spot and the consequences of hitting outside the optimal zone.
- Building anticipation for the actual attempt to break a bat with a kick.
05:40 🦴 *Breaking the Bat: Ash Wood*
- Testing Mel Menor's kick against a major league baseball bat made of ash wood.
- Mel Menor's kick generates over 790 pounds of force, successfully breaking the bat.
- Discussion on how Muay Thai masters like Mel build up their shin bones through years of hard kicks, creating a surface as hard as stone.
07:13 🌳 *Breaking the Bat: Maple Wood Challenge*
- Introducing the challenge of breaking a maple wood bat, known for being tougher than ash wood.
- Mel Menor's kick generates 1000 pounds of force, successfully breaking the maple bat.
- Highlighting the toughness of maple wood and the impact on Mel Menor, revealing blood after the kick.
08:20 🏋️♂️ *Conclusion: Muay Thai Master's Powerful Kicks*
- Summary of the testing, showcasing Mel Menor's ability to break both ash and maple wood bats with powerful kicks.
- Emphasis on Muay Thai masters' capability to build extremely hard shin bones through years of training.
- Recognition of Mel Menor's prowess in kicking, making him capable of handling both ash and maple wood bats effectively.
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Would have been interesting to measure the lowkicks power from someone like Buakaw, who is _famous_ for his powerful lowkicks. (as proven by his many fights in which the opponent tko/ko, from them)
Kyokushin Karatekas do this all the time in there tameshiwari. Look for it, there are lots of videos of it here in TH-cam even women doing it.
Here is the kyoshin karate butthurt! Like people always complain which martial art is best but you fools should know it's never the martial art it is always the user!
Kyoushin Karate butthurt!... You are an arrogant fool!... You didn't understand my words. You make a wrong comparison between my statement and that wrong idea in whch you claim, i was glorifying Kyokushin Karate. If you did not manage to get my words, what i was saying, is that this test have been done a thousand times, before they did it with this Muay Thai practicioner, it is nothing new at all. And if you felt respect, admiration for this guy doing it. Then why would't you do it for those thousand of other people, that have done it before. And not only Kokushin Karatekas but many other practicioners of martial arts have done this feat before.
Karate is watered down kung fu!!!
but they dont kick this hard
Julián Ow Young MT fighters do this all the time as well.
Then there's Buakaw.
"yup, thats my blood," so calm
arent muay thai fighters supposed to be standing on toes when kicking? and kick with shin not feet
I thought similar. For Muay Thai kicking I thought he was quite close to the foot. A couple inches further up the shin would've had a more solid impact.
Levon iTz clearly you've never kicked a thai bag with your foot...
Kicking with your shin hurts you but it hurts the other guy much more. kicking with your foot hurts you 1000x more than it hurts them. also thai fighters stand on the balls of their feet.
you need to have the strongest base as possible while kicking, otherwise you will run out of balance if you miss or if someone kick your leg (the one on the ground) you're gone for good.
Balls of your feet not your toes what do you think they are ballerinas?
Rfa khmer
of course a muay thai kick on a heavy bag will have more force than a footballer kicking a smaller target SMH
Krauty McLederhosen Actually you can only apply so much force on a smaller object because it does not "hit" back as hard. Try killing a mosquito by punching it out of the air. Not even Mike Tyson could do it. So, sorry, you fail physics 101. Even a child can kick with more than 200 lbs. of force if the target is heavy.
yotsub29 Yes, you are 100% correct. Either of those other two athletes could have easily broken that "anchored" bat as well, just as they could apply much more force to an anchored football or soccer ball. Glad to see someone here knows what they are talking about. This show is an insult to science.
+Krauty McLederhosen You still didn't address the main point to which we are responding. Namely that one can apply much more force to a heavy bag than to a soccer ball or football which moves away too fast for you to apply the required 700 lbs. of force. Why do you think they had two guys holding the bat still instead of just hanging the bat loosely from a rope? It's because it would move away at first contact making it nearly impossible for a human to break. They disqualified the other two athletes based on an unfair, unscientific comparison. Now wipe away your boyfriend's crusty splooge from your eyes and read what I have written, because it is all true.
+Krauty McLederhosen Dude, it's the comment from yotsub29 you responded to in this thread. He was referring to this portion of the video: 1:50 - 2:20. Peace.
Actually it doesn't matter what object they kick. The other objects have much more acceleration than the bag, so the bag has more mass but less acceleration. Either way it doesn't matter because he has a device that measures his kicking speed as well as his for weight. Multiply those two and you have your momentum.
Now lets see badr hari's lowkicks in his todays form..... but fucking strong for a guy his size
he would lose to buakaw.
Melchor Menor also lost the battle of low kicking versus Masato and Masato is also scared of Buakaw's low kicks.
Ippo2k16 Badr carries 40-50 more KG over buakaw, im pretty sure he'll have more force in his lowkicks despite the beast buakaw is
Like 170cm vs 195cm, big difference
HellaFlush070 and how do you exactly know the power of buakaw's kicks?
Ippo2k16 I dont, its logic, Both barely have any fat on their body in their prime. They both have the same kickin technique, using their full bodyweight n' hip movement.. Just check some of badr hari's compilation, you'll udnerstand the force he is capable off
But yo, aint no saying for sure, but i;m pretty sure in my own way since BADR was trained at mike's gym, and they supply their fighters with the typical lowkick finishing move, after a combination
The balls of the guy holding the bat at the bottom are legendary.
2:45
Mel: I believe a powerful kick is more devastating than a powerful punch.
No shit, Mel.
hardest kick I ever saw recorded was in the show fight science by a Australian tae kwon doe black belt [ I want ot say 5 degree] 2300 pounds of force traveling at 139 mph
What! I thought Bane was the man who broke the bat?
Haha. I almost threw up I laughed so hard. Well done. Very clever.
Thanks dude! Boredom makes me do things
WolfyAxe well done sir!
Instantly saved the comments section lmao! Well done
Be very curious to see the power behind Ernesto Hoost's lowkicks...
they should invite Roberto Carlos, Mirco CroCop and Alistair Overeem
Also Diego Maradona. 😂
@@alexdriftersupraman dead
@@chavalomiguel5587 May God rest his soul in peace. 😔
I have broken 3 of them together before . What is that 2100 lbs. of force then?
Post a video of it to prove it!
Loren, you just want to watch it don't you?
Jeffrey Lippold ofc he wants to watch it? you are writing it like it's a problem lol rofl
Jeffrey Lippold Sooo.... did you end up making a video, or no...?
For what reason?
2:43 "I'm going to hit you there!"
hahaha wow, cannot believe you spotted that
Underrated comment xD
Why yes, I definitely can-not do this. I would move the bat, then cry from pain. This gives me greater respect for trained fighters
People arguing punches are stronger than kicks... because X and Y heavy weight punched 2,000+ pounds... Well then a sumo fighter jumping from the second floor is stronger, he can generate lots more strength with his ass...
Kebren why people arguing that? kicks are more powerful than punches since legs are our largest and heaviest limbs. punches tend to be faster tho.
Eli instead of claiming one is stronger than the other, those idiots should be doing some research and judge athletes within the same weight classes and what not. ppl b comparing a featherweight to a heavyweight.
kaiser2324 that is true tho. If it's a person is not as big as another you shouldn't compare cuz I don't think a kick from a 145 or 155 pound person could be stronger than a punch from 185 - 200 pound person cuz a bigger person has more weight to channel into strikes. but if comparing people of same size and weight then kicks are more powerful than punches.
Mastered Ultra Instinct Eli it’s the size of the muscles. Your thigh is like 20 times the size of your bicep.
Looking back on the 770lbs recorded force. Mind you, it was done on a weighted bag which holds its own. So to compre his kick on different bats, but not the same weight as the bag is somewhat erroneous..the height of his kick should also be similar... he did a middle leg kick on the bag, but does low leg kicks on the bats.
Huge respect for Mr Mel. Yes, he'll break them coz he probably has more than 800lbs kick in him.
Very unsafe for the bat holders too! Production crew should've thought of some"thing" safer. 🥲
I think you'd have to be really good to recreate a Muay Thai kick on a whim, you have to be pumping with adrenaline and animalistic rage and fear to get a full force kick.
Oh my god, if that man kicked a common man he would die 😱
godddamnnn you wouldn't see me fuck around with this dude!!
Didn't Taekwondo guy hit the bag with more than 2000 lb of force in comparison between TKW, Karate, Muay Thai, and Capoira?
Yes, but its a stupid test because of different weight of participants
Yes
Why? Instep bones Can't be powerfully condition There's 100% chance that Bren foster's Kick (The Taekwondo Guy) will fail Miserably and brealing his Instep
Hahaha the teakwondo guy in a nother episode kickt 1049kg (2 312.64913 pounds) This was nothng to him ;)
my dad can do this, its not anything special for a good martial artist.
I like how they have this high production set up to analyze the force of his kick and make cool edits, but the way they set up the bat is by having some random guy laying on the floor.
I’m just here to say that Mauj Thai is a superior fighting technique. Reason why most MMA fighters are learning it. It’s effectiveness and power is beyond being pretty like most styles.
Super Sayian;Asian you got that right brother 💪
Brother Guru seriously bro and student of the art will tell you so
Super Sayian;Asian you don’t have to tell me twice my friend
ha-ha-ha Mirko Cro-Cop had a kick of 700 KG
Yeah and he is like twice his weight? My friend force is mass x acceleration, ofcourse it would be harder from a heavyweight.
Boads don't hit back
-Bruce Lee
No they don't, your point? He was breaking bats too btw.
I'm not going to respond to this
You literally just did.
what part of sarcasm don't you understand?
Boards
Man the kicks some of these guys can throw with kickboxing backgrounds even amateurs I’m convinced could break some ribs for sure...
bruce lee was a spped directional kicker not a power kicker , im a mma trainer and kicking is a fucking art a art my son not a quick developed tech
Whata Loadashit He could kick with power too, just watch some of his videos (not movies) but actual demostrations where he literally sent men flying. He was deceptively strong.
Whata Loadashit damn, u know alot about bruce lee..
thats why im starting muay thai
Your username fits your comment, I feel bad for the students who trains under you mcdojo bull💩
My girlfriend farts can break bats.
no booty play for you then LOL
Crusader _113 he'd be shot out like a cannon
Moneygetjealous that’s just nice *sarcasum*
Pfft... my girlfriend can break bats with sheer odour
:-) you made my day
Bit this is old..
Silat has alreaddy done it..
a guy kicked a person in the nuts with 1100 pounds of force....
what a severe loss
What u on bout
Liam Farese what theeee hell
+El Nor (elusive budgie) scrambled eggs
Hahaha
since when is force measured in pounds? Not only is it not a metric unit, which is pretty dumb in itself, but it´s not even a unit of fore! Maybe I´m just easily irritated but this shit pisses me off...
They mean pounds of force.
just watched a video where they used the hanging bag with the sensors, and a Tae Kwon Do kick produced 2300lbs force!!! They should of used him on this show!
5:13.
nice work mel
This is why you don't mess with Muy Thai fighters on the streets.
Lol, kyokushin students break bats on a daily lol
But he is kicking the thinner part of the maple bat. I want him to kick the thickest part just like they showed with the baseball example.
+Daniel Dunn The bats usually break at the weakest point which is closer to the hands even if the force his applied to the barrel area ;)
+Daniel Dunn ...
Yes?
it will still crack at the weakest part. unless you want to make the entire bat with thickness of the thickest part.
the lever effect amplifies force on the weakest point, that´s why you can sprain your back by lifting 10 kilograms with arms fully extended to the front while being able to lift 50 kg close to the body.
Hitting the thickest part makes breaking the bat easier.
That's cool and really amazes me. I wish I'd taken up Muay Thai or really any martial art when I was a kid, but I never thought about it, and now I'm old. Very impressive. When I was young, I used to punch concrete pillars for no real reason. I wonder if doing that hardened up my knuckles, and if they went back to normal once I stopped doing it, or if it works that way.
My friend told me there are two perfect ages when you can start a martial art. 5 years and now. I'm 24 and I just started MMA. I don't know how old you are but we have new guys over 40 coming to train with us. You're never too old :)
Kicks >>>>>>>~punches
Thats why this is the first striking offense not a self defense anymore and the first martial arts i learn
1000 pounds of force thats insane jarvis
Actually, Muay Thai was used to kill people in war until it developed into a sport.