You are incorrect about the American version of Donkey Kong being "out of order" for the levels. The USA version IS the original. The Japanese cabinet came out AFTER. The levels are supposed to go 1-4-1-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4...etc. The Japanese version is simplified. It takes legitimate skill to get to the Cement Factory in the American arcade.
Many arcade games come out in USA first and then Japan receives the updated or altered version. Sometimes (like Simpsons Arcade) the Japanese version is basically the *final* version, and us Americans essentially received the beta.
@@TRJ2241987 I'm not going to believe it just because you say so. You have any idea how many people incorrect me on here? I did research for this video. If there is proof and I am incorrect, I will gladly credit you for correcting my error.
Fun Fact: The NES versions of Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., and Popeye were the first 3 games released for the Japanese NES, the Famicom, on July 15th, 1983.
Something interesting to note is that a modified version of the NES Donkey Kong called “Donkey Kong Original Edition” was released for select Wii consoles and on 3ds as a Club Nintendo exclusive reward. It adds in the removed Cement Factory stage (with some changes to keep it on par with the NES levels). It’s pretty cool for what it is, although it’s currently impossible to legitimately obtain.
Mite be donkey kong Jr remix. It is a daughterboard that you can add to a DKjr PCB and play on an arcade cabinet. U simply take out the Z80 chip and plug the daughterboard into that socket. The daughterboard has a socket to plug your Z80 chip back into.
(Note: this is not my account) I'm only the measly age of 11 and I love the arcade classics. Space Invaders, Mario Bros., And even obscure titles like stepplechase and joust ring a bell for me.😀
Don’t feel bad. There’s an arcade in my city not too far from my school and I go there to hang out with my friends sometimes. (It’s closed Monday thru Thursday so don’t worry about me ditching ;) )
I found out that Stanley the bug man is Mario's cousin and it's no joke, I saw this information in super smash bros brawl when I got the Stanley trophy and thats how I found out more about him.
I like how you describe the comparisons between the Arcade vs the NES Port plus you showed Coleco Vision! I now really see a difference in changes between the ports! I do remember seeing Donkey Kong 3 in 88 @ Showpizza.
Yes the sound effects are different due to the fact that Dk, Dk Jr. and Mario Bros. used analog circuits to create the sounds and music. While the NES versions including DK3 Arcade used a Sound chip to produce sounds and music.
Back in the days, the arcade classics series were pretty much 19.99 to 29.99 at the most in The Wiz electronic store. I used to play Donkey Kong NES and Popeye after owning them on the Atari 5200. I would always play Popeye after the Morton Downey Jr show. My mom would let me play till 2 am because of having insomnia as an 11-year-old and didn't want to get me on sleeping pills. It always beat watching Laurence Welk reruns. Just to have all the boxes laid out together was amazing in its self, great times. LMAO at the Regan reference, great vid dude!
Morton Downey Jr, ha ha. I used to mix him up with Robert Downey Jr as a kid (the name only, obviously).That sucks that you had insomnia as a kid (except for staying up to play games). I get insomnia now and it blows! And I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the Reagan reference hilarious!
I was pissed off when Regan got shot, cause after school cartoons were put on hold because of the news coverage, I Sadly missed out on an episode of Battle of the Planets
Damn, you're older than I am. I was too young to remember it at the time. I'd say the first "disaster" that I do remember was the Challenger explosion.
Thanks, man! I actually feel that my content has sort of lacked in quality versus some of my older stuff the past few months after moving. I think I'm finally starting to get back into the swing of things.
@@NefariousWes I used to see a Donkey King 3 machine back when I was 5 or 6 in a Hill's department store. When my mom would give me quarters to play games as we were leaving the store, I always used them on Enduro Racer or Yie Ar Kung Fu and I never saw more than Donkey Kong 3's attract mode. I kinda wish I played it now lol.
What is ironic, is the Atari XE cartridge version by Sculptured Software was more like the arcade. It even had the enemy intros. Yeah, DK3 actually had two of the CPU/APU of the NES in the arcade hardware. It will explain why the audio between nothing are so similar
Nefarious Wes Yeah. There was a port of it for Atari 8-bit home computers when they released the XEGS. Sculptured Software did better than Nintendo for the NES.
I remember Donkey Kong 3 in the local arcade in the late 80's but that came down to the fact the owner of the local arcade owning multiple locations and never really getting rid of games , he also had a strange habit of importing unusual arcade cabinets , the result was the standard faire everyone else played but also some weirdness . Picture all the Nintendo cabinets ,Atari, Bally, Konami , Capcom , ect cabs and the usual standby's of the late 80's early 90s next to oddballs like Legion Spinner 87, Exerizer , Mutant Night , Atomic Robo Kid and later Splatterhouse.
Yeah UPL made some STRANGE games, and the arcade version is interesting in it's subtleties not mentioned ANYWHERE such as the "blank" power up icons when enough are collected allowing for an extra hit before you die. Of course being an arcade game compared to it's console conversions the difficulty usually ramped way up. Give it a go in MAME as the emulation there is perfect but expect to die a LOT.
this was the first video review in a long time where I heard someone finally praised Donkey Kong 3. I love Donkey Kong 3 to this day. Donkey Kong on the nes bored me pretty quickly, but i found myself playing DK3 more and more after I got it. Was just a nice change! It's unwarranted how much hate this game got over the years. The only thing I wish they didn't remove was Mario? The guy who had that idea, I hope he was fired! lol
Before ever playing Popeye on NES or even finally trying it at an arcade sometime in the 90's my earliest memory of that game was on the Commodore 64 computer.
Good, Good...(sinister laugh). Really cool man, it's neat being able to see the side by side comparison. Thank you for this awesome experience, this video straight rocked my socks!
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Despite how freakin' long it took to edit, and countless errors that I had spotted along the way, it was a lot of fun to make.
the Atari 400/800 had all 4 levels as well as the "How Hi Can You Get" cut screen as well as Kong climbing the girder lever, although it was only in display mode. Jr for the 400/800 was also just as good as the arcade with all 4 boards in US order Wimpy did appear in the 400/800 Luigi was in Jr...he has the correct colors in Donkey Kong Remix
In fact , Mario bros. was made arcade perfect in the 1993 rerelease of classic Mario bros for the nes , only in Europe , bringing back the teach segments and the cooler pests animation
There's a Europe exclusive port of Mario Bros. for the NES that closely resembles the arcade version. Graphics and intermission included. It's called "Mario Bros. Classic Serie". Worth checking out.
I don't know when it was created but they gave it away for free on the 3DS at one point a version of the NES game donkey Kong with The pie factory/cement factory stage inserted as if it had never been removed.
"At least he's a good Christian" ahah. Great video, had no idea about these differences. Love all these games. I remember someone telling me that Mario Bros. had 60 levels, but obviously... it was a lie.
I remember my mom woring at a bar in late 80s and early 90s. She took me there once during a short day shift to play the arcade and pinball games there. They had a small coffee table version of Popeye. I played the heck out of it. I was never keen on the original Mario Bros, but only played on NES after I had already played Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros 2. The first game was definitely just scratching surface pre side scroller. Donkey Kong is fun, Jr is better, and I remember renting 3, which wasn't horrible, but I remember wondering who the bugspray dude was.
The original Donkey Kong intended to be a Popeye game, but was later changed to a cast of original characters when the Popeye license fell thru. When Donkey Kong went on to enormous success, King Features Syndicate agreed to license the characters to Nintendo to create a Popeye arcade game in 1982.
actually the correct order of the stages is in the Japanese arcade version. the US arcade version actually gradually adds stages as it goes along: stage 1, then 4, then 1, then 2, then 4, then 1, then 3, then 4, before settling with the correct (jp/nes) order. the same goes with DKJR.
This video was recommended to me after I was watching a different one on DK Jr., and I'm glad it was so I could find your channel. This is a great video dude, really good stuff. I'm subscribing right now.
Some corrections: Luigi was always coined as Mario's twin brother in his first appearance in Mario Bros, and he still is. The difference is that now they are Fraternal Twins as opposed to identical twins. This is also shown in the Yoshi's Island game series. As for the OG Mario Bros video game, the NES had released a 1993 UK version that was closer to the Arcade game, including the look of the creatures and the cutscenes. I went online and even looked up the cartridge and also have it in an Emulator. It is so great too as Mario and Luigi can change direction while in the air in a jump. The 1993 UK NES version is my favorite as the homeport version in contrast to the regular NES console version.
Great video Wes. I always enjoy arcade to home comparison videos. Nintendo did a really good job porting their arcade titles for the NES. I spent many hours on these titles. Though I do not own a Switch, I am glad that the original arcade versions for some of these games are finally being released. I hope they all get home releases some day, of course Popeye would be a big obstacle. For a long time, I was not a fan of Donkey Kong 3. We had to play it for a competition earlier this year and I got the hang of it and now I'm a fan of it.
Thanks! It's cool that the original arcades are being released for the Switch, but $8 a pop is way too much. Doesn't matter for me, as I don't plan on getting a Switch. No way they'll be able to port Popeye though, which sucks, cuz the arcade version is a lot better than the NES one. And DK3 is a ton of fun! I liked it immediately!
$8 is a bit high for those titles. It is odd that Nintendo was the last holdout amongst the big name arcade developers to bring their titles to the home consoles.
NeoTurboManiac I can't stand the way Nintendo does business, which is why I'm pretty much done with 'em. Sucks, cuz I REALLY want that Punch-Out arcade.
+MIKE SHALLOW Thanks! More would be nice, but damn, this video took about 40 hours just to edit. I edited for 12 hours straight yesterday to make sure I could get it out today. Whew!
And in Donkey Kong 3 I feel the levels are also out of order I feel that the level where Donkey Kong falls from the vines to his death in the arcade version or has the beehive fall on his head in the NES version should come after the level with the orange bushes on the sides of the screen because that feels more like a final level rather than that being the second level
This video is amazing!!! I absolutely love it and have every game you talked about but now I have to get them out and replay them!! thank you Wes for reminding me how awesome these games are!!
Yeah... I'm digging your channel, big time. I'm going to binge watch your channel today for sure. One of my all time favorite games is Popeye too. I love your structure in reviewing games in your videos. Keep up the AMAZING work!!!
I remember I first played donkey Kong in 1982, early 83. These games represented technology as it was so much fun. But the fact you needed quarters made it special. ❤ Taking back bottles to play one of these babies made it priceless ❤
Cool video, glad to see someone else enjoy dk3. There is a game store near me that has one of those multicade cabinets and I play dk3 every time I go there as well as the local pizza place.
I agree...DK3 is fun as hell, but I think you definitely need to play it in a cabinet. I am actually picking up a DK Jr. cabinet this Tuesday (quarantine mask and all)...got for a price that is too sweet to pass up!
Nefarious Wes tell me! I got Donkey Kong Classics in 1988 and my brothers, who weren’t around pre Super Mario were like “why do you care so much about this!?”
Donkey Kong had incorrect scoring...the double barrel jump only awarded 200 points instead of 300. The Atari 400/800 was better for Donkey Kong as it had all 4 levels in proper US order, and the "How High Can You Get?" cut screen Luigi had the correct color overalls in Donkey Kong Jr REMIX there was a ROM that allowed Popeye to climb up and down the ladder in Level 1 Luigi was Mario's TWIN
Arcade Archives on Switch. Problem solved. Too bad Popeye is MIA, but great to see Punch Out! They got the NES ports too with Nintendo Online Sub. Love playing the arcade-perfect ports in Tate Mode!
That was a great vid! I never got to play much DK 3 but if I had every quarter I pumped into DK throughout the years, I could pay to have ads for my channel run on TH-cam lol
my top ten arcade games 1. pac man 2. Popeye 3. mappy 4. ms. pac man 5. burger time 6. dig dig 7. Street fighter 2 8. 1942 9. cruisin USA/the world 10. NBA jam
It's pretty well known that the game boy version of donkey Kong has all those extra levels and allows you to cheat the first arcade levels by doing a handstand jump but what's probably less well known is The game and watch games that have donkey Kong 1 2 3 on there and they're actually completely different games not just LCD versions of the arcades.
Cool idea for a vid, mario bros will always be my fav arcade game, but funny I don't like the NES port cause the sprites and animations look way worse imo, it's bugged me ever since I was a kid lol
I've actually had the idea to do a video covering these five games for well over a year now, but I scrapped it cuz DubiousGamingOnline started covering every NES game in order, and covered the Arcade Series. But I was like, "You know what? Fuck it, I'm doing it." and it actually turned into this. Ended up being a LOT more work that I had originally envisioned. But I'm pleased with how it turned out. And man, I wish we could play Mario Bros online. I've never been able to play with someone who knows what they're doing.
Nefarious Wes yeah almost any subject had been done already, but do it anyway cause you'll make it your own, and yeah we need to play Mario Bros and Dr Mario sometime lol
I would love Arcade1Up to team up with Nintendo to do a 12 in 1 with all of these games along with Punch Out and a few other games would be a day 1 purchase for me even at the price of 500.00
They won't. But even if the could. They couldn't bundle Popeye, mario bros and punchout with the donkey kongs. The kongs monitor is vertically oriented. Whereas the other 3 are horizontal.
The US version of DK in the arcade doesn’t have levels out of order. It’s more of a build-up system. Each level ends in the rivet stage. Look at the upper right corner to see what level you’re on.
I honestly prefer how the JPN version is layered to be honest. I mean I like how the US version builds up, but I want to play all the levels since the first level.
When I was a kid , my dad bought us donkey Kong jr,punchout ,ms Pac-Man and centipede arcade games.. to this day I never liked the nes ,Atari or coleco versions
I actually went to the Boardwalk USA on Havana in Aurora. Used to go there while I was in middle school and played through so many games. Captain Commando, the Sega Spider-Man arcade, T2, and god knows what else. If only there was a barcade that offered that same card system while drinking beer. I would get my mail there!
Right on, man! It's cool when you find a channel from areas that you recognize. I just found a channel called: Mile High Game Hunters, and they search for games in stores only miles from my house. That was pretty cool.
Also, that footage inside of 1up is from when a couple of friends went there a few years ago. The guy playing Punch-Out is Benevolent Dick. He's from New York and has a hilarious channel!
Nefarious Wes That's cool, I've seen Mile High game chasers, I'm checking out the other channels on your channel list! I used to go to the Mile High Flea Market and I've been to Docs and a couple other places, any recommendations on any spots that still have good deals to find old school games!?
Donkey, Kong and Pac-Man are the games that started it all. Donkey Kong was definitely the best Nintendo game ever put out and in my books. Definitely number one arcade game of all time!!
Great video. I remember playing DK3 in the arcade...it was weird but we filled it with quarters anyway...well until I taught the locals the "straw trick" (lol). Doesn't DKJ in the arcade have a level called Mario's Palace or something like that? Pretty sure they left that out of the NES port.
It was Mario’s Hideout in the arcade and that’s what the electrified stage with the sparks was called. The NES version and other home ports lack any between-level intermissions so the level had no real in-game designation or title in the home versions, it was just “a power plant” or “inside a giant computer” or something.
Just imagine if donkeykong 3 was released as donkeykong 1, sure it wouldn’t had be an success either because of people considered it again as another shooter.
i owned Donkey Kong / Donkey Kong JR / Popeye for the Atari 400/800 game system. these games played very close to the arcade at the time with all boards in US order although Popeye didn't have the bouncing skulls although it did have Wimpy on the see-saw.
If you want to play a more accurate version of Mario Bros for NES you should play the "Classic" Edition version. Also, if you want the cement factory level in Donkey Kong for NES, play "Original Edition" Also, little correction. Arcade Mario Bros isn't Luigi first appearance. It's the Game & Watch version.
I still prefer the Coleco versions of these games since that was my first exposure. Also Colecovision had some creepy ass sound effects in some games especially in Mouse Trap it still creep me out. Awesome idea for a video.
I didn't realized how badly the NES version of Mario Bros. Sucked until I saw this. The sprites are lame compared to the original especially mario and Luigi are borrowed sprites from Donkey Kong instead of the cool redesign.
"A blast... up the butt." LOL! I remember Dubs reviewing Popeye, but your review explained a lot more for me. Never been a big fan of arcade games, but I didn't go that much in the 80s. I'd totally be down to hit that 1up arcade with Bene and the MT guys though. Shigeryu was 29 when he made Donkey Kong. What have I been doing with my life this whole time?!
Dude, it would be so sweet to round up a MT posse and take over 1up! We'd probably get tossed! Popeye is a pretty fun game! Hell, they all are! And yeah, by 29 we should have all created groundbreaking media by now!
Yeah, too bad we're all scattered across the country. Hey, I'm glad your video got fixed for monetization. What a load of crap it's been for us to get appropriate ratings. I'd understand if they told us what they want and don't want to put in the videos. Instead of a big mystery to "avoid people gaming the system." whatever YT...
As a video game geek, I’ve always wondered how exactly they were able to display the Popeye arcade character sprites in a higher pixel resolution than the HUD and background sprites (meaning that the animated sprites appear to have a smaller pixel size than the background and HUD, allowing them to look more smooth and “cartoony”, especially on a CRT screen where the pixels appear more blurred together). I’ve noticed multiple games that are able to do that, Tapper, Timber, and Sky Skipper being a few other examples. Did the computer board have 2 separate microchips for HUD/background graphics and animated graphics or something?
The arcade version of Popeye looks drastically better than the NES version because Popeye was one of the few "medium resolution" arcade games from that era. It was 512 x 448 while the NES was 256 x 240, which is "standard resolution" like most arcade games were (arcade Donkey Kong was 256 x 224 for example). Of course, even the standard resolution arcade games looked better than the NES because they had much more powerful hardware, but Popeye had much more powerful hardware _plus_ much higher resolution.
@@NefariousWes Bally Midway's Tapper (1983) is another medium resolution arcade game (512 x 480) from that era, which looks as good as Nintendo's Popeye; better actually, because in addition to great looking sprites, the background is more detailed, while Popeye has great looking sprites but rather crude looking background graphics (just solid blocks of color for the steps and platforms for example).
The game is based on the 60s straight-to-tv cartoons which were still widely syndicated in the early 80s. (I grew up watching them!) They used "Brutus" because they mistakenly thought they didn't have the rights to Bluto, so they created a knock-off substitute. Funnily enough, the newspaper comic strip (which does still exist) has both characters as brothers now.
Huh huh Titular. Unfortunately not even the nodded pie foundry cart even compares to the first Donkey Kong arcade, though it's not bad, a lot of home ports of Nintendo arcades are decent to good but just not the same. Great video my friend.
When I was growing up you could tell a quality arcade because they had these thing called milk crates for you to stand on...... plus when my grandparents got me my first Nintendo in 1986 show you how much they are out of the loop I thought they had wrapped up double a batteries they were actually a role of quarters cuz my grandparents thought you had to put money in it to save in the kids piggy bank
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You are incorrect about the American version of Donkey Kong being "out of order" for the levels. The USA version IS the original. The Japanese cabinet came out AFTER. The levels are supposed to go 1-4-1-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4...etc. The Japanese version is simplified. It takes legitimate skill to get to the Cement Factory in the American arcade.
Can you provide a source please?
a source for what? I'm just pulling this out of my brain
Donkey Kong 64 contains the Japanese ROM. I agree chronologically the JPN version makes more sense. But the USA version is the original.
Many arcade games come out in USA first and then Japan receives the updated or altered version. Sometimes (like Simpsons Arcade) the Japanese version is basically the *final* version, and us Americans essentially received the beta.
@@TRJ2241987 I'm not going to believe it just because you say so. You have any idea how many people incorrect me on here? I did research for this video. If there is proof and I am incorrect, I will gladly credit you for correcting my error.
Donkey Kong might just be the greatest game ever made..
It's what turned me into a gamer.
@@NefariousWes That's pretty cool..
Billy Madison agrees!!
I disagree. It's a very good game...but I think Mortal Kombat for the Sega Genesis is the best game ever.
Yes
Fun Fact: The NES versions of Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., and Popeye were the first 3 games released for the Japanese NES, the Famicom, on July 15th, 1983.
TheOnionKingdom my 2nd birthday, boom!
Something interesting to note is that a modified version of the NES Donkey Kong called “Donkey Kong Original Edition” was released for select Wii consoles and on 3ds as a Club Nintendo exclusive reward. It adds in the removed Cement Factory stage (with some changes to keep it on par with the NES levels). It’s pretty cool for what it is, although it’s currently impossible to legitimately obtain.
I once saw a TH-cam video of a version of Donkey Kong Jr. where there is like this kitchen level that I don’t believe is even in the arcade version
Mite be donkey kong Jr remix. It is a daughterboard that you can add to a DKjr PCB and play on an arcade cabinet. U simply take out the Z80 chip and plug the daughterboard into that socket. The daughterboard has a socket to plug your Z80 chip back into.
When I think about how many never experienced the early 80s arcades firsthand, it really makes me feel terrible for them.
+Will Mistretta Tell me about it. Poor bastards.
Will Mistretta They will never know the Golden Age of arcade gaming....
(Note: this is not my account) I'm only the measly age of 11 and I love the arcade classics. Space Invaders, Mario Bros., And even obscure titles like stepplechase and joust ring a bell for me.😀
Don’t feel bad. There’s an arcade in my city not too far from my school and I go there to hang out with my friends sometimes. (It’s closed Monday thru Thursday so don’t worry about me ditching ;) )
When I was your age was when I first started getting into retro video games. I’m almost 18 now.
WINNERS DONT PLAY FORTNITE
I found out that Stanley the bug man is Mario's cousin and it's no joke, I saw this information in super smash bros brawl when I got the Stanley trophy and thats how I found out more about him.
I like how you describe the comparisons between the Arcade vs the NES Port plus you showed Coleco Vision! I now really see a difference in changes between the ports! I do remember seeing Donkey Kong 3 in 88 @ Showpizza.
Thanks! Showbiz Pizza? With the mechanical gorilla?
I believe so.Showbiz Pizza has been Chucky Cheese 27 years.I just love how you narrated your video with such enthusiasm!!!!!
@@christianroth812 Thanks! I remember having a lot of fun making this one.
@@christianroth812 Showbiz Pizza Place is awesome :D I love the Rock afire Explosion(The Animatronic band)!
@@NefariousWes Yep. The mechanical gorilla's name is Fatz Geronimo :)
Yes the sound effects are different due to the fact that Dk, Dk Jr. and Mario Bros. used analog circuits to create the sounds and music. While the NES versions including DK3 Arcade used a Sound chip to produce sounds and music.
Back in the days, the arcade classics series were pretty much 19.99 to 29.99 at the most in The Wiz electronic store. I used to play Donkey Kong NES and Popeye after owning them on the Atari 5200. I would always play Popeye after the Morton Downey Jr show. My mom would let me play till 2 am because of having insomnia as an 11-year-old and didn't want to get me on sleeping pills. It always beat watching Laurence Welk reruns. Just to have all the boxes laid out together was amazing in its self, great times. LMAO at the Regan reference, great vid dude!
Morton Downey Jr, ha ha. I used to mix him up with Robert Downey Jr as a kid (the name only, obviously).That sucks that you had insomnia as a kid (except for staying up to play games). I get insomnia now and it blows! And I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the Reagan reference hilarious!
I was pissed off when Regan got shot, cause after school cartoons were put on hold because of the news coverage, I Sadly missed out on an episode of Battle of the Planets
Damn, you're older than I am. I was too young to remember it at the time. I'd say the first "disaster" that I do remember was the Challenger explosion.
Well done Wes! You're content keeps getting better and better man. I too love old school (arcade) Nintendo. DK, Dk jr., and Popeye being my favorites.
Thanks, man! I actually feel that my content has sort of lacked in quality versus some of my older stuff the past few months after moving. I think I'm finally starting to get back into the swing of things.
I saw Donkey Kong 3 machines several times back in the day, and they even have one at Yestercades of Red Bank, NJ.
infinitygenealpa I actually just played one last weekend.
@@NefariousWes I used to see a Donkey King 3 machine back when I was 5 or 6 in a Hill's department store. When my mom would give me quarters to play games as we were leaving the store, I always used them on Enduro Racer or Yie Ar Kung Fu and I never saw more than Donkey Kong 3's attract mode. I kinda wish I played it now lol.
What is ironic, is the Atari XE cartridge version by Sculptured Software was more like the arcade. It even had the enemy intros.
Yeah, DK3 actually had two of the CPU/APU of the NES in the arcade hardware. It will explain why the audio between nothing are so similar
For which game? Mario Bros?
Nefarious Wes Yeah. There was a port of it for Atari 8-bit home computers when they released the XEGS. Sculptured Software did better than Nintendo for the NES.
I remember Donkey Kong 3 in the local arcade in the late 80's but that came down to the fact the owner of the local arcade owning multiple locations and never really getting rid of games , he also had a strange habit of importing unusual arcade cabinets , the result was the standard faire everyone else played but also some weirdness .
Picture all the Nintendo cabinets ,Atari, Bally, Konami , Capcom , ect cabs and the usual standby's of the late 80's early 90s next to oddballs like Legion Spinner 87, Exerizer , Mutant Night , Atomic Robo Kid and later Splatterhouse.
Atomic Robo Kid was an arcade game? Did not know that.
Yeah UPL made some STRANGE games, and the arcade version is interesting in it's subtleties not mentioned ANYWHERE such as the "blank" power up icons when enough are collected allowing for an extra hit before you die. Of course being an arcade game compared to it's console conversions the difficulty usually ramped way up.
Give it a go in MAME as the emulation there is perfect but expect to die a LOT.
this was the first video review in a long time where I heard someone finally praised Donkey Kong 3. I love Donkey Kong 3 to this day. Donkey Kong on the nes bored me pretty quickly, but i found myself playing DK3 more and more after I got it. Was just a nice change! It's unwarranted how much hate this game got over the years. The only thing I wish they didn't remove was Mario? The guy who had that idea, I hope he was fired! lol
Well actually Luigi made his first appearance in the G&W Mario Bros released a few months before
I had Donkey Kong 3 for NES. The game is a Galaga/Space Invaders knock off set in a greenhouse.
Before ever playing Popeye on NES or even finally trying it at an arcade sometime in the 90's my earliest memory of that game was on the Commodore 64 computer.
Priceless memories.
Solid work bruh.. I'd love to see you cover more arcade content. It's one genre of gaming I return to religiously!
Ken Ess Thanks, man! Yeah, I'm down to cover more arcade stuff.
His name is Bluto.
It's Brutus in the Popeye arcade.
#umactually
@@NefariousWes And the reason for that is... well... more complicated than it is interesting!
There is actually both in the cartoon lol bluto was before Brutus..
Beautiful era, it was so magical
Good, Good...(sinister laugh). Really cool man, it's neat being able to see the side by side comparison. Thank you for this awesome experience, this video straight rocked my socks!
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Despite how freakin' long it took to edit, and countless errors that I had spotted along the way, it was a lot of fun to make.
the Atari 400/800 had all 4 levels as well as the "How Hi Can You Get" cut screen as well as Kong climbing the girder lever, although it was only in display mode.
Jr for the 400/800 was also just as good as the arcade with all 4 boards in US order
Wimpy did appear in the 400/800
Luigi was in Jr...he has the correct colors in Donkey Kong Remix
In fact , Mario bros. was made arcade perfect in the 1993 rerelease of classic Mario bros for the nes , only in Europe , bringing back the teach segments and the cooler pests animation
Not arcade perfect. Jumping controls are different, making it much easier.
Andrew yeah but it’s very very close
There's a Europe exclusive port of Mario Bros. for the NES that closely resembles the arcade version. Graphics and intermission included. It's called "Mario Bros. Classic Serie". Worth checking out.
Yeah, I read about that while doing research for this video.
I don't know when it was created but they gave it away for free on the 3DS at one point a version of the NES game donkey Kong with The pie factory/cement factory stage inserted as if it had never been removed.
"At least he's a good Christian" ahah. Great video, had no idea about these differences. Love all these games. I remember someone telling me that Mario Bros. had 60 levels, but obviously... it was a lie.
Thanks. Yeah, there are definitely more than 60 stages in Mario Bros. After 99 it goes to 00 and then the numbers start over.
I remember my mom woring at a bar in late 80s and early 90s. She took me there once during a short day shift to play the arcade and pinball games there. They had a small coffee table version of Popeye. I played the heck out of it. I was never keen on the original Mario Bros, but only played on NES after I had already played Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros 2. The first game was definitely just scratching surface pre side scroller. Donkey Kong is fun, Jr is better, and I remember renting 3, which wasn't horrible, but I remember wondering who the bugspray dude was.
The bugspray dude in Donkey Kong 3 is Stanley.
I agree 100% with your take on DK Jr..... they managed to subtly improve the game and make a very comfy home version of the classic......
The original Donkey Kong intended to be a Popeye game, but was later changed to a cast of original characters when the Popeye license fell thru. When Donkey Kong went on to enormous success, King Features Syndicate agreed to license the characters to Nintendo to create a Popeye arcade game in 1982.
actually the correct order of the stages is in the Japanese arcade version. the US arcade version actually gradually adds stages as it goes along: stage 1, then 4, then 1, then 2, then 4, then 1, then 3, then 4, before settling with the correct (jp/nes) order. the same goes with DKJR.
I'd like to think of Mario's 'doppelgänger' as Luigi wearing his spare clothes.
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My favorite Mario game ever. :3
This video was recommended to me after I was watching a different one on DK Jr., and I'm glad it was so I could find your channel. This is a great video dude, really good stuff. I'm subscribing right now.
Thanks!
I suppose the tutorials and the intros were an unnecessary in the nes versions, they came with a manual
13:30 i feel this man’s every pain
Some corrections: Luigi was always coined as Mario's twin brother in his first appearance in Mario Bros, and he still is. The difference is that now they are Fraternal Twins as opposed to identical twins. This is also shown in the Yoshi's Island game series.
As for the OG Mario Bros video game, the NES had released a 1993 UK version that was closer to the Arcade game, including the look of the creatures and the cutscenes. I went online and even looked up the cartridge and also have it in an Emulator. It is so great too as Mario and Luigi can change direction while in the air in a jump. The 1993 UK NES version is my favorite as the homeport version in contrast to the regular NES console version.
I think it was the non-UK PAL region, particularly Germany, that received Mario Bros. Classic Serie?
Great video Wes. I always enjoy arcade to home comparison videos. Nintendo did a really good job porting their arcade titles for the NES. I spent many hours on these titles. Though I do not own a Switch, I am glad that the original arcade versions for some of these games are finally being released. I hope they all get home releases some day, of course Popeye would be a big obstacle. For a long time, I was not a fan of Donkey Kong 3. We had to play it for a competition earlier this year and I got the hang of it and now I'm a fan of it.
Thanks! It's cool that the original arcades are being released for the Switch, but $8 a pop is way too much. Doesn't matter for me, as I don't plan on getting a Switch. No way they'll be able to port Popeye though, which sucks, cuz the arcade version is a lot better than the NES one. And DK3 is a ton of fun! I liked it immediately!
$8 is a bit high for those titles. It is odd that Nintendo was the last holdout amongst the big name arcade developers to bring their titles to the home consoles.
NeoTurboManiac I can't stand the way Nintendo does business, which is why I'm pretty much done with 'em. Sucks, cuz I REALLY want that Punch-Out arcade.
4:22 one of those two Marios is actually Luigi wearing red (just a fan theory but still, it just makes lots of sense)
More, more, More! Dude can't get enough of your vids. Thank you!
+MIKE SHALLOW Thanks! More would be nice, but damn, this video took about 40 hours just to edit. I edited for 12 hours straight yesterday to make sure I could get it out today. Whew!
Nefarious Wes It's a thankless job I know. You've got a gift my friend. Thank you again for all your hard work!
MIKE SHALLOW It's worth it. Thanks for watching!
And in Donkey Kong 3 I feel the levels are also out of order I feel that the level where Donkey Kong falls from the vines to his death in the arcade version or has the beehive fall on his head in the NES version should come after the level with the orange bushes on the sides of the screen because that feels more like a final level rather than that being the second level
I was born in 1995 and this is one of my favorite games
I was at Dave And Busters once and they had an old arcade machine of DK3
This video is amazing!!! I absolutely love it and have every game you talked about but now I have to get them out and replay them!! thank you Wes for reminding me how awesome these games are!!
Glad you enjoyed it! It was fun to put together.
Yeah... I'm digging your channel, big time. I'm going to binge watch your channel today for sure. One of my all time favorite games is Popeye too. I love your structure in reviewing games in your videos. Keep up the AMAZING work!!!
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that. I definitely had fun with this one.
I remember I first played donkey Kong in 1982, early 83. These games represented technology as it was so much fun. But the fact you needed quarters made it special. ❤ Taking back bottles to play one of these babies made it priceless ❤
Cool video, glad to see someone else enjoy dk3. There is a game store near me that has one of those multicade cabinets and I play dk3 every time I go there as well as the local pizza place.
Thanks! Yeah, DK3 definitely doesn't get the love that it deserves.
if u want the arcade in ur house , then theres arcade archives on nintendo switch so u can play the arcade version at ur house and on the go
I agree...DK3 is fun as hell, but I think you definitely need to play it in a cabinet. I am actually picking up a DK Jr. cabinet this Tuesday (quarantine mask and all)...got for a price that is too sweet to pass up!
Nice! There's a barcade near me that has a DK3 cabinet. I hope they'll be able to reopen after all of this.
Awesome! The arcade series was the best one. Yea I was an old timer even back then
Gajillionaire Thanks! I feel that these games aren't appreciated much by younger gamers.
Nefarious Wes tell me! I got Donkey Kong Classics in 1988 and my brothers, who weren’t around pre Super Mario were like “why do you care so much about this!?”
Gajillionaire * Sigh *, kids.
@@GTV-Japan unfortunately the younger generation has an "I don't care about older stuff" attitude.
Kory Andrews that’s every generation until they get old
A real "stIffy" for Popeye 😆 totally wearing my "Cornholio" shirt at the moment btw.
Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong 2, and Popeye were the Famicom launch titles in 1983, with Mario Bros getting released a few months later.
The Japanese version of Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. have stages in correct order...
Great video! I still need to try Donkey Kong 3. It's the only arcade series game I haven't played on the NES.
+Captain Algebra Thanks, man! DK3 is a lot of fun and may be the cheapest of the five. I got mine ten years ago for $0.75.
Not anymore. The game is a rarer game for the NES, and now regularly goes for $15.
Donkey Kong had incorrect scoring...the double barrel jump only awarded 200 points instead of 300. The Atari 400/800 was better for Donkey Kong as it had all 4 levels in proper US order, and the "How High Can You Get?" cut screen
Luigi had the correct color overalls in Donkey Kong Jr REMIX
there was a ROM that allowed Popeye to climb up and down the ladder in Level 1
Luigi was Mario's TWIN
Hey I dig your channel a lot, man! Your video style is what I look for, keep up the good work.
Thanks! Glad there are more like-minded fools like me out there, ha ha!
Arcade Archives on Switch. Problem solved. Too bad Popeye is MIA, but great to see Punch Out! They got the NES ports too with Nintendo Online Sub. Love playing the arcade-perfect ports in Tate Mode!
Agreed.
Lol its so cool see how different the nes and arcade versions of donkey kong jr and 3 and mario bros are not so much the same as different
amazing review
Thanks!
That was a great vid! I never got to play much DK 3 but if I had every quarter I pumped into DK throughout the years, I could pay to have ads for my channel run on TH-cam lol
+Back in the Day Gamer Thanks, man! It's funny, when I go to the barcade I spend more on ONE beer than I spend on a whole night of games.
1:54 mario looks like a super hero 😂
my top ten arcade games
1. pac man
2. Popeye
3. mappy
4. ms. pac man
5. burger time
6. dig dig
7. Street fighter 2
8. 1942
9. cruisin USA/the world
10. NBA jam
+Carl Bochanski Love BurgerTime! I actually did a video about it two years ago covering the entire series.
Nefarious Wes there's a series of burger time games? I will have to try and find them.
+Carl Bochanski Yeah, but sadly the latest one was digital only and is no longer available.
Nefarious Wes I had burger time deluxe on my old flip phone 10 years ago.
Carl Bochanski Such a good game.
this is a great serie keep up the good work !
Thanks!
Donkey Kong 3 is my favorite game
It's pretty well known that the game boy version of donkey Kong has all those extra levels and allows you to cheat the first arcade levels by doing a handstand jump but what's probably less well known is The game and watch games that have donkey Kong 1 2 3 on there and they're actually completely different games not just LCD versions of the arcades.
Donkey Kong has facial expressions in the NES version of DK3
The GBA version of Mario Bros. was also in the game Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga
Cool idea for a vid, mario bros will always be my fav arcade game, but funny I don't like the NES port cause the sprites and animations look way worse imo, it's bugged me ever since I was a kid lol
I've actually had the idea to do a video covering these five games for well over a year now, but I scrapped it cuz DubiousGamingOnline started covering every NES game in order, and covered the Arcade Series. But I was like, "You know what? Fuck it, I'm doing it." and it actually turned into this. Ended up being a LOT more work that I had originally envisioned. But I'm pleased with how it turned out. And man, I wish we could play Mario Bros online. I've never been able to play with someone who knows what they're doing.
Nefarious Wes yeah almost any subject had been done already, but do it anyway cause you'll make it your own, and yeah we need to play Mario Bros and Dr Mario sometime lol
I would love Arcade1Up to team up with Nintendo to do a 12 in 1 with all of these games along with Punch Out and a few other games would be a day 1 purchase for me even at the price of 500.00
That would be awesome. But you know, Nintendo....
They won't. But even if the could. They couldn't bundle Popeye, mario bros and punchout with the donkey kongs. The kongs monitor is vertically oriented. Whereas the other 3 are horizontal.
loved all of these. played them all in arcades (yup even DK3.) Always wished Nintendo had made a sequel to Popeye.
The US version of DK in the arcade doesn’t have levels out of order. It’s more of a build-up system. Each level ends in the rivet stage. Look at the upper right corner to see what level you’re on.
I honestly prefer how the JPN version is layered to be honest. I mean I like how the US version builds up, but I want to play all the levels since the first level.
I guess Popeye is super light if air can send him flying
When I was a kid , my dad bought us donkey Kong jr,punchout ,ms Pac-Man and centipede arcade games.. to this day I never liked the nes ,Atari or coleco versions
Love these old arcades, do you remember going to Boardwalk USA on Colfax and Kendall, I used to go there and play Everything in sight!
I actually went to the Boardwalk USA on Havana in Aurora. Used to go there while I was in middle school and played through so many games. Captain Commando, the Sega Spider-Man arcade, T2, and god knows what else. If only there was a barcade that offered that same card system while drinking beer. I would get my mail there!
Nefarious Wes Cool, I just found this channel! I recognized Denver, I'm from the same Era and love the same games! Great videos!
Right on, man! It's cool when you find a channel from areas that you recognize. I just found a channel called: Mile High Game Hunters, and they search for games in stores only miles from my house. That was pretty cool.
Also, that footage inside of 1up is from when a couple of friends went there a few years ago. The guy playing Punch-Out is Benevolent Dick. He's from New York and has a hilarious channel!
Nefarious Wes That's cool, I've seen Mile High game chasers, I'm checking out the other channels on your channel list! I used to go to the Mile High Flea Market and I've been to Docs and a couple other places, any recommendations on any spots that still have good deals to find old school games!?
Donkey, Kong and Pac-Man are the games that started it all. Donkey Kong was definitely the best Nintendo game ever put out and in my books. Definitely number one arcade game of all time!!
Found a new video I haven’t watched yet. Actually there are a bunch. I’m going to have to have another “Nef Wes Night” soon my man!
This was a fun one.
Great video. I remember playing DK3 in the arcade...it was weird but we filled it with quarters anyway...well until I taught the locals the "straw trick" (lol). Doesn't DKJ in the arcade have a level called Mario's Palace or something like that? Pretty sure they left that out of the NES port.
Thanks! DK3 is great! Don't know anything about Mario's Palace.
It was Mario’s Hideout in the arcade and that’s what the electrified stage with the sparks was called. The NES version and other home ports lack any between-level intermissions so the level had no real in-game designation or title in the home versions, it was just “a power plant” or “inside a giant computer” or something.
Ah, that's the name...thank you. The first time I saw it in the arcade as a very young kid I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. :)
@@leroyvisiongames2294 Makes me wonder why Mario's secret hide0out is an electrical stage of all things.
1:52 That box art. lol edit Crap, I already mentioned that about a year ago!
Ha ha, that's how awesome it is!
Speaking of Galaga, that was another arcade that was well done on the NES, though maybe it wasn't in the "arcade classics" series.
Great history lesson...🤘🏼💯✔️
Just imagine if donkeykong 3 was released as donkeykong 1, sure it wouldn’t had be an success either because of people considered it again as another shooter.
i owned Donkey Kong / Donkey Kong JR / Popeye for the Atari 400/800 game system. these games played very close to the arcade at the time with all boards in US order although Popeye didn't have the bouncing skulls although it did have Wimpy on the see-saw.
If you want to play a more accurate version of Mario Bros for NES you should play the "Classic" Edition version.
Also, if you want the cement factory level in Donkey Kong for NES, play "Original Edition"
Also, little correction. Arcade Mario Bros isn't Luigi first appearance. It's the Game & Watch version.
I still prefer the Coleco versions of these games since that was my first exposure. Also Colecovision had some creepy ass sound effects in some games especially in Mouse Trap it still creep me out. Awesome idea for a video.
Thanks, man! Yeah, the Colecovison rocks! I still have Mouse Trap. Played it a few months ago and boy are those controls stiff!
oh, man! I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembered Mouse Trap from back in the day!
Please do more of these!
I didn't realized how badly the NES version of Mario Bros. Sucked until I saw this. The sprites are lame compared to the original especially mario and Luigi are borrowed sprites from Donkey Kong instead of the cool redesign.
"A blast... up the butt." LOL! I remember Dubs reviewing Popeye, but your review explained a lot more for me. Never been a big fan of arcade games, but I didn't go that much in the 80s. I'd totally be down to hit that 1up arcade with Bene and the MT guys though. Shigeryu was 29 when he made Donkey Kong. What have I been doing with my life this whole time?!
Dude, it would be so sweet to round up a MT posse and take over 1up! We'd probably get tossed! Popeye is a pretty fun game! Hell, they all are! And yeah, by 29 we should have all created groundbreaking media by now!
Yeah, too bad we're all scattered across the country. Hey, I'm glad your video got fixed for monetization. What a load of crap it's been for us to get appropriate ratings. I'd understand if they told us what they want and don't want to put in the videos. Instead of a big mystery to "avoid people gaming the system." whatever YT...
I know. I wanna "game the system" so it works properly for fuck's sake!
As a video game geek, I’ve always wondered how exactly they were able to display the Popeye arcade character sprites in a higher pixel resolution than the HUD and background sprites (meaning that the animated sprites appear to have a smaller pixel size than the background and HUD, allowing them to look more smooth and “cartoony”, especially on a CRT screen where the pixels appear more blurred together). I’ve noticed multiple games that are able to do that, Tapper, Timber, and Sky Skipper being a few other examples. Did the computer board have 2 separate microchips for HUD/background graphics and animated graphics or something?
It could be black magic for all I know.
Thanks👍 great video
Thanks for watching!
12:23 The reason why Mario has blue hair and mustache is because most NES sprites only need 3 colors
18:45 Just like how E.T. dies on Atari 2600
I have all these games for the NES along with a game called Donkey Kong Jr. Math
The arcade version of Popeye looks drastically better than the NES version because Popeye was one of the few "medium resolution" arcade games from that era. It was 512 x 448 while the NES was 256 x 240, which is "standard resolution" like most arcade games were (arcade Donkey Kong was 256 x 224 for example). Of course, even the standard resolution arcade games looked better than the NES because they had much more powerful hardware, but Popeye had much more powerful hardware _plus_ much higher resolution.
It looks amazing for a 1982 game.
@@NefariousWes Bally Midway's Tapper (1983) is another medium resolution arcade game (512 x 480) from that era, which looks as good as Nintendo's Popeye; better actually, because in addition to great looking sprites, the background is more detailed, while Popeye has great looking sprites but rather crude looking background graphics (just solid blocks of color for the steps and platforms for example).
BLUTO, not Brutus. Great video, though!
I agree. But the control panel overlay actually says "Brutus." A friend of mine has a popeye cabinet. Says sumthin like knock the tub on brutus' head
The game is based on the 60s straight-to-tv cartoons which were still widely syndicated in the early 80s. (I grew up watching them!) They used "Brutus" because they mistakenly thought they didn't have the rights to Bluto, so they created a knock-off substitute. Funnily enough, the newspaper comic strip (which does still exist) has both characters as brothers now.
6:16 this has led to confusion and everyone thinking Jumpman is Mario's dad
I personally don't believe that
Huh huh Titular. Unfortunately not even the nodded pie foundry cart even compares to the first Donkey Kong arcade, though it's not bad, a lot of home ports of Nintendo arcades are decent to good but just not the same. Great video my friend.
+Retro Cynical Thanks, man. I've actually been thinking about doing a video where I cover home ports that are better than the arcade versions.
4 out of the 5 can be played on NSO on the Switch. They probably can't use Popeye due to copyright laws.
6:37 Or maybe it is Luigi. Just wearing the same clothing.
My fav was mario bros. 1983 cuz I love the walking foot steps.
When I was growing up you could tell a quality arcade because they had these thing called milk crates for you to stand on...... plus when my grandparents got me my first Nintendo in 1986 show you how much they are out of the loop I thought they had wrapped up double a batteries they were actually a role of quarters cuz my grandparents thought you had to put money in it to save in the kids piggy bank
"Uncompromised mantra", what? LOL.