You fail to mention Taiwan itself and not China's ROC government only. Before the coming of ROC refugees from China in 1949, Taiwan was already Japanized after 50 years being one country with Japan. After the end of world war II, Taiwan was freed and gained outright independence from Japan after the 1951 treaty. That was the basis of status quo.
@@whitequetzal1190 For some hypocritical reason you can't seem to see the glaring hypocrisy of your "assertions" : The people of Hawaii (all races) choose to be part of America with voting rights. The people of Taiwan choose NOT TO BE PART OF EVIL CHINA, and yet you chinese propagandists don't respect that. And if you claim that a land should be ruled by its natives, then Taiwan should be ruled by South East Asians, not any chinese...do you not see your own glaring hypocrisy ????
The video fails to address the real issue why US is so involved. 90% of the most advanced chips comes from Taiwan and that is an economic advantage that US will not like to fall exclusively into China's hands. All of Apple's Chips, NVIDIA, some Intel, etc. are manufactured in Taiwan, using western equipment (ASML). China spends more than 400billion annually, importing Chips, more than they spend importing oil. It's an economic battle, not pure political
@@iocokerThis shows that u don't really get it. u don't know the history. When the PRC was founded in 1949, China was already making plans to take back Taiwan, but back then, the US sent their Seventh Fleet into the Taiwan Strait. And at that time, there was no TSMC yet. It's been more than 70 years now, and a lot has happened in between.
They won't. In 1950's, US Airforce were very active in bombing mission in Mainland China's coastal cities & fortifications to assist Chiang Kai-shek to retake the Mainland from CCP. However, they did not allow any Chinese engineers to get close to any of their planes in their airbase in Taiwan. Because any Chinese, eventhough they live in Taiwan, are potentially communists & enemy.
They sure could tell just fine between the Koreans in the Korean War and the Vietnamese in the Vietnam War and the Afghans in the Afghan War. Maybe try educating yourself in military history instead of making such ignorant comments. Wars arent that simple
As a person of Chinese descent who would have preferred if the KMT won the war and not the CPC I will say this: This strictly a family issue between the Republic of China and The People's Republic of China. In none of their names is 'America' written so they should mind their own business and let the Chinese living on both sides of the straight sort this out themselves. Also good job on being as unbiased as possible in this video, many people conveniently leave out facts pertinent to this issue such as a very simple fact of the very name of Taiwan itself. It IS the Republic of China (officially, on passports etc etc) and any way you slice it is Chinese no matter what insane mental gymnastics some in the West apply when viewing this issue.
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I would also like to add one more point: Don’t think Taiwan is too innocent. When Taiwan was first separated from China in 1949, Taiwan had a seat in the United Nations and had better economic, military and Western support. They could have declared independence at that time, and China had no ability to stop it at that time. But why didn't this happen? The fact is that Taiwan identifies as one country with China, and its goal is to counterattack the mainland and regain control of China. When it was stronger, it kept sending military planes to threaten the mainland. But now, when it was weaker, it began to seek independence, shouting about so-called peace. In other words, Taiwan essentially identifies with the mainland as the same country. The Taiwan issue is actually China's internal affairs. The current situation is completely unilaterally shaped by the United States for its own benefit. As the Taiwanese government changes textbooks and demonizes China, a new generation of young people gradually loses their understanding of history and culture, making peaceful reunification increasingly difficult.
it's like in the old days when your great grandfather didn't apply for land title for the land that he cleared and closed it with fence for his next generation. At that time people were so nice and innocent thinking that nobody would try to grab his land and forgot to think that people change in time
Well, you put it in a way people can understand the relationship between the two much easier. I have lived in Taiwan for 20+years and I would say this, most tension and conflict created by the U.S.! U.S. keep using Taiwan to pressed China and as propaganda to marketing themselve around the world as the solution against the so-called evil communism, but the truth is U.S. need to create this idea, tension and fear in people's minds so they can sell weaponry to all the conflict zones around the world for their treasury, the same time intimidating other countries like Russia, China, Iran... all they consider the enemy, to uphold their position as the leader and the only powerhouse on earth, to gain alliance. United States as a country was made by different races and slavery from northern Africa and some worker from the East in the early 20th century, it all started by the English and Irish plundering the natives and killing to get the lands they have now. I laughed every time the white supremacist called themselves the true American and want to kick all others out. U.S. and the Brits have allyship, gain tremendous powers and influence on the international stage after WWll and every since then they have controlled most of the world's economy. When Russia declined and China raises in early 90s U.S. saw the potential threats from China and need someone or something to pressure China, keep China in its place, and saw Taiwan is the one can keeping an eye on China and also can be controlled by. Every now and then U.S. will play the Taiwan card, use it to demonize China to get others against it. Look, I'm not saying China is perfect, but how U.S. and U.K. put their hands in to chaos the world began to reaches people's awareness, people starting to see and believe what they have done and starting to resent them. It's clear the world will not have peace as long these two particularly keep brainwashed the world, people begin to realised all the lies and faults information they have presented. The biggest terrorist are the U.S. and the U.K., just watch how they loss all their credibility supporting Israel, that's not humanity rights, not peace maker but a war and massacre starter!!
@@HK-ce2lj not really. The real story is that a bad guy got into your home and you tried your best to get him out, but you ran out of energy just to get him out of the house. When you rested for a while and gained strength, hoping to drive away this bad guy, you found that he called a gangster on the street and occupied your yard together. The government that fled to Taiwan at that time clearly had better weapons and equipment provided by Western countries, and had more money and troops. Why did they fail? Because they are this bad guy, oppressing and exploiting the people, and eventually being driven away by the people.
Taiwan and China have never been the same country. You understand, it was the Republic of China that victoriously took over Taiwan in the war. What does splitting Taiwan mean? Are you confusing things?
But here's the crucial question: Why is the US entitled to interfere in China's domestic matter with regards to Taiwan? Who made the US the governor of the world?
@@AW-zk5qb Taiwan is a province of China, and claims sovereignty over the mainland. Taiwan is NOT an independent country, has never declared independence, and likely never will. If Taiwan ever declares independence (risking annexation by Japan or America), China will immediately resume the Chinese Civil War and force Taiwan to reunify. This is a "red line" that automatically triggers Chinese military force, and has been warned many, many times.
I studied in Taiwan during the 90's at the same university (National Chengchi) as the associate professor in the video. At that time, Taiwan had just held its first presidential election. My roommate talked about going to the top of a mountain so that they could see the missiles from the mainland falling into the ocean in the distance. The political landscape was more fractured with more parties to choose from and the locals would tell you which taxis to take, or avoid, according to your political affiliation. Going to the mainland was still a big deal and the stories of reunited families who had been separated for over 40 years since the revolution were still common in the media and amongst locals. Now Taiwanese live and work in the mainland regularly and many have even married and set up households on both sides. The politics is still fraught and yet, on the people side, they are closer than they were for a long time. Cross-straight relations are complicated, and anyone who tries to simplify the situation is either naive or pushing an agenda.
You focused too much on the details. The big picture is quite simple. As the power of China grows, it needs to push its influence circle beyond the first island chain. As the power of the US declines, it will no longer have the capability to maintain the first island chain. If both US and China can calmly recognize such a power shift, Taiwan will be re-unified peacefully. If US does not want to accept its decline, then Taiwan will be re-unified militarily. What the people actually prefer is irrelevant.
Is it possible that China and Taiwan will go to war? I have read that China has sent balloons to Taiwan and that they are pressuring the Taiwanese to become one country with China.
@@emmeadowmitbbs3537 What nonsense logic is this? By your dumb logic, the US should have expanded their territory all the way ever since WW2. Yet they did not. The US has remained the same territorial size since 1945. Meanwhile China and Russia had been busy trying to expand their territory. China took over Mongolia, Tibet, and also went to skirmishes with neighbouring Russia and India. Russia took over almost all of Eastern Europe, before ceding when their communist empire collapsed, then today Russia is again trying to invade Eastern Europe
I am tired of arguing with the other side, neither side can persuade the other through discussion anyway. As a "spectator" I just want to be done with this suspension and see the checkmate move made as soon as possible, wherever the chips may fall.@@emmeadowmitbbs3537
A simple analogy is if China started spending billions of dollars on arming Hawaii and funding Separatist elements to declare the island's independence from the US. How would America react to such actions?
Big difference is that Taiwan want to be independent and are, the other doesn’t. That analogy makes no sense. Your hate for America blinds you from logic
@@ulysseshenderson8717 You should know that the referendum in Hawaii was immoral because too many U.S. troops participated. Then wouldn’t it be enough to wait for more Chinese immigrants to go to Taiwan and then hold another referendum? Do you support China to arm Donbass freedom fighters? Do you support Russia to defend Donbass against Ukraine invasion? Do you support sanctions against the United States for violating the United Nations Charter on China's sovereignty?
It’ll be a waste of money of china to do that only to find out that almost every single person in Hawaii wants to be American 😂 Let’s hope china isn’t as dumb as you
The elephant in the room is: Taiwan is the name of an island. It is a geological term. It is not a nation. Its government is Republic of China, which has the constitution that claims the whole of China, including both Mainland China and Taiwan. It is currently under suspended civil war with Mainland China, whose government is People's Republic of China, which also claims the whole of China. That are legal facts. It is not about freedom or democracy or independence. You can go independent. You can go freedom. You can go democracy. But you need to go through the process of settling the civil war and reconcile the claims. It is like saying, "I am a nice guy. So I deserve to have this house where I live in." No you don't. That house has a claim on it. You also have a claim on it. There is no doubt about that. But your brother has a claim on it, EVEN IF HE NEVER SET FOOT ON THE HOUSE. He has a claim! You can not use other concepts like "I am nice." "I love freedom." "I am peaceful." "He is awful" as judgement for the claim. Only legal facts have meaningful result. Not feeling. So both sides need to resume the Civil War and settle. Or they can talk peacefully and settle. But both sides need to settle, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
You are exactly right. PRC always been patient and push for peaceful unification for the last decades. They gave all kinds of benefits on trade so the Taiwanese can make money off the hugh mainland market and waiting for one day the ROC will come back to the table and talk. But the ROC kept pushing PRC away especially when the DPP is in power.
@heinzlockigehaar Unfortunately, taiwan needs my tax money support dearly. In fact, I'm going to Taiwan next week WITHOUT a visa. Realistically, just like Europe, taiwan is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without our support, period!
So, all the responsibility lies with the United States. The U.S. government opposes full reunification of China while not supporting Taiwan's independence. It aims to make the Taiwan issue a major headache for China
It shouldn't be a headache at all for China. The status quo has worked for decades and has kept taiwan and china make economic deals that both benefit from. This is simply China's nationalistic chauvinism showing. The only way this could be an actual threat to China is if the US installs a military base there, which I doubt it will since they benefit immensely from Taiwan's semi-conductor industry.
Two Chinas: the Republic of China 🇹🇼 and the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳. The problem is the majority people in Taiwan believe they are "the Republic of China" instead of Taiwan. Funny !!
@@貔貅神獸 The people of taiwan the people who live there don't want reunification. They do not want independence either. Respect what the people want. Maintain the status quo that has been in place for decades, it is the most peaceful for all people.
it's really only about power, the us has been trying so hard to weaken china's economy and destroy the best tech companies there... china taking taiwan with the semiconductor infrastructure there would be a huge blow for the us@@EHed-kv2wb
One has to go check Taiwan's Constitution before making any comment...... Commenting before reading through Taiwan's Constitution is like a cow talking nonsense ..... Taiwan's Constitution states that Taiwan's territories include many China mainland provinces and even Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu ...... and the city where Xi Jing Pin is living now....
Actually ROC's constitution also asserts that the Outer Mongolia is also a part of China, because the map of ROC is based on the map of the Qing empire before the revolution in 1911. So the map of ROC is in fact much larger than the map of the PRC.
@@kianono3209 The ROC constitution was drafted in 1947. Taiwan already returned to China in October 1945. Imperial Japan's "law" of terrirtories outside of Japan, such as Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and so on, were not legal laws. Between 1850 to 1945, Japan just invaded everyone in Asia and annexed lands, those are illegal occupations and war crimes.
After 1945, China represented the Allied to take over Formosa, now Taiwan. in 1951 Japan announced to give up some of its territory, including Taiwan and Korea, in the meeting with the Allied in San Francisco. Both ROC and PRC were not allowed to the meeting to sign the peace treaty with Japan, for some Allied like the USSR, UK, and US didn't recognize their right.@@walking_luggage8105
the USA is like that one person in your friend group who no one likes, but who keeps trying to force themselves into every conversation and every event
People like you forget Russia was behaving the same as US during the Cold Way. The whole reason US was fighting communism was because Russia was actively spreading it around the world
@@SoYappyLol, you mean polls from EU countries or Japan? They are just well trained pet dogs that don't have and don’t need to have opinions. People kindly call them “US allies”
No one likes? Love the America bashing. Many of the things people all over the world enjoy are because of the US global order. When we intervene it's a problem, when we don't intervene....ITS ALSO A PROBLEM. People don't know what they want.
Balanced summary of the political background. But you have think deeper why on earth would US risk WW3 to defend Taiwan in the first place. It's no longer about communism, despite the propaganda. You didn't touch on the importance/benefit to US for Taiwan to remain outside China's control. We all know that China is a serious and possibly only rival to US's global economic power and overall hegemony. Taiwan's advanced semiconductor industry is one reason. Another is the geo-strategic position of Taiwan. The line of American military bases and allies stretching from South Korea to Japan to Taiwan to the Philippines forms a unbroken net that prevents China from projecting it's power into the Pacific Ocean. Think of the Pacific Ocean as chessboard and US has it's row of pawns right up there lined right across his opponent's front door preventing him from even stepping out of his own half. If Taiwan falls into China's hands, it's going to be a very big 'hole' in the net.
Taiwan has its own system, laws and military. It has never belonged to the People's Republic of China, and the People's Republic of China has never owned Taiwan for a day!
This is a rather weak assessment of the subject. To fully understand it from all three sides - The PRC, The ROC, and the US - requires a deeper and more, way more, dive into the past history and how things have evolved to the present day. There are numerous books on the subject. One of many is "The Trouble with Taiwan", a very good and worthwhile read.
You replied to me, but it is not posted here. Your response was: "Seek TheTruth what do you mean by 'this'? the video is just a summary . you yourself said there are numerous books on the subject matter. how long did you spend reading ALL those books? five minutes? ten? you expect them to cover all that is written in those books in a few short minutes?" Let's look at what is actually presented in 'this' summary: - Concerning/pertaining to the Xi clip - Why not mention the fact that Xi has claimed to "not rule out reunification by force"? There are numerous existing 'clips' of him stating exactly that. Why wasn't one of those clips not shown instead? - The same applies to the Biden clip - There are also other existing Biden 'clips' that could have been used - most importantly - where after he states "That's the commitment we made" he adds - "by law". Which it is. The Taiwan Relations Act was passed by the 96th Congress and signed into law. Where the US does not oppose reunification - BUT - is against reunification "by means of force" (and as mentioned Xi doesn't rule out). - The 'summary' includes the UN Resolution - But no mention of The Taiwan Relations Act? - And the included mention of US arms sales to Taiwan - The Taiwan Relations Act also states that "the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan." Yet there is no mention of this when they flash the news headlines - how convenient. - And then there's the mention of the upcoming 2024 US election - The Taiwan Relations Act being US law, it doesn't matter who the President of the US is. He/she must uphold the law - yes? So this subtle jab and this so-called expert's take that the US attitude towards the Taiwan issue has some relevance as to who is or is not the POTUS can be considered somewhat bogus and quite a stretch - don't you think? How long would it add to this video by including these, IMO, rather very important, pertinent, and true facts (as more context/clarification to these already presented items) - I mean, every point I mention is already included 'this' summary - yes? So, one minute? a minute and a half? IMO, that's 'cherry-picking' and irresponsible reporting. Especially since it appears they wish to 'come-off' to the viewers as being unbiased and representing all sides of the issue. Btw, you mention some pertinent points and facts. But we both know that there is more - much, much more - to this. A substantial amount of which is readily available by reading "ALL those books".
This is a rather weak assessment of the subject. To fully understand it from all three sides - The PRC, The ROC, and the US - requires a deeper and more, way more, dive into the past history and how things have evolved to the present day. There are numerous books on the subject. One of many is "The Trouble with Taiwan", a very good and worthwhile read.
The only major issue was the timeline. Taiwan was a province of China for roughly 200 years. That doesn't mean that they were only a part of China for 200 years. In fact, the island of Taiwan was claimed by China's first emperor; so Taiwan island has been an official part of China for over 2,000 years. China had a 'light hand' for much of that time, choosing to only trade with the native Taiwanese, allow some Chinese to migrate there, and fighting off colonial aggressors such as the Spanish and the Dutch.
How come the Chinese mainlanders don't even know that they had lost their country? Don't they know that without the backups of the Long Dead Gone Soviet Sickle-Hammer flags, the 5 dirty stars flags are nothing? The middle class Chinese are selling their assets seeking asylum from the US right now. Up to date since 2022 55,000.
More than 2,000 years? Your history is a mess! Can you tell me which Chinese official has governed Taiwan in more than 2,000 years? I can tell that in history, only the Netherlands, the Qing Empire and Japan governed Taiwan.
Taiwan is Taiwan! China is China! Why is Taiwan an internal affair of China? Taiwan has its own military, its own people, and its own laws. Chinese cannot go to Taiwan without a visa. Taiwanese have never spoken to the Chinese government about taxes. Every Taiwanese knows that China is going to invade and occupy their homeland.
From what I just Googled, past Chinese dynasties tend to avoid intermarriage between the Han Chinese and the native Taiwanese inhabitants. As the means to protect their tribes and prevent loss of land. Until that current KMT lost Chinese civil war retreated from the mainland. This is in fact an ongoing Chinese civil war. I don’t intend to see more Chinese moving here into the UK, so having a war breaking out in Taiwan is the last thing I want for my country. I’ll share this news with my mates who don’t yet understand the history behind this standoff.
It started very badly if you don't introduce the history that ROC and PRC were in an eight-year Chinese civil war, ROC lost and fled to Taiwan province in 1949 stealing all reserves of gold, foreign exchange and silver that belong to all Chinese people. The US sent its aircraft carrier to the Taiwan Strait to stop PRC from taking Taiwan back, and has been in between ever since. In 1971, UN general assembly voted for PRC to replace ROC as the sole legal gov of China and took the seat for China at the security council. 183 out of 194 countries in the world recognize PRC as the legal government of China instead of ROC. In 1979, the US and China established diplomatic relations on condition that the US recognizes there is only one China and PRC is the sole legal government of China. But subsequently, US regime changed/brain washed Taiwanese and uses Taiwan as a proxy against PRC. If you don't want your country split by others, please refuse to support separatists--I am sure there will be people who take issues with "belonging to your country", which doesn't change the fact that Taiwan is part of China. It needs to be clarified that Taiwan is not a country, it is a province in China (either PRC or ROC governs China, Taiwan is part of China).
The problem is the US. If this was a US island , can China bring a ship closer to it ? The US confirmed Taiwan belongs to China but at same time encouraging taiwan to stay independent. America should know it fought hard to maintain its unity from the South. China also should not be taken for weak . US should know they supported south korea and south Vietnam, the end Americans know they all lost , will supporting Taiwan prove a different to the earlier defeats? This is not US land ,they better stay away .
The US is more noise than power in the China Seas. Land fire-power over-whelms sea (fleet) fire power especially in A2AD zone. China industrial capacity over whelms that of US. The US runs a superior media war giving the world the opposite impression but it's navy and its AD are almost powerless against Chinese top end missiles. China also has both high and low orbit sat surveillance providing 24/7 situation awareness, and intelligence on incoming fleet fire power.
Lots of people talking about Chinese navy not powerful enough yet but they forget that navy operates under the fire cover of a fort. China is a huge fort with the largest industrial capacity in the world and now with newly formed Russian ties, access to endless natural resources combined with a huge ever expanding navy that grows bigger everyday. The Navy is secondary when the mainland can literally produce millions of missiles during wartime.
@@DaddyFatSzack He said land-power, China has hundreds and hundreds of DF-17, DF-21 and DF-26, the South China Sea & Taiwan strait is their home turf, no U.S ship or aircraft carrier will be operational for more than a few hours. U.S would need to stay 2000 miles way, even leaving Guam behind.
@@DaddyFatSzack Apparently you need to brush up on A2AD concepts. The land-power's fire power is land launched and air launch guided missiles. Intermediate range missile have ranges to 2000km. No fleet is required on land power side for Area denial.
In fact, the split between mainland China and Taiwan originated from the civil war between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party in 1949. The two sides never declared an armistice or signed any peace agreement. In other words, legally speaking, the civil war has not stopped, and the two sides of the Taiwan Strait are still in a hostile state of war. This is the current situation in the Taiwan Strait. Any attack by the mainland on Taiwan cannot be considered as a one-sided change of the status quo, because the war has never really ended. .
You have some insight on this. Except you have to add something like this : There was a time that TAIWAN was helped by the US and they were much stronger than China mainland at both economic and military levels. Why they didn't try and take the mainland China back then but they waited ? They wanted to take back the control of China. And I don't think it was not on their mind to do so. However time's changed. Before they know it, it was too late as China has been growning faster then they could have probablely imagined. So they changed their strategy : they want independance. the problem is : it's now too complicated for that either. They have made decisions to sleep in the same bed with the US, so better to assume the consequences.
@@elleryprescott Also because self-determination of the people is an important principle of modern international law. Good that the US is on the right side for once!
Please be specific...ROC-PRC or China Mainland-Taiwan....Taiwan mean the island it self and ROC actually control Taiwan, Jin Men, Ma Zhu and Peng Hu, total 4 islands...
@@Liboch Techinically, Jin Men and Ma Zhu(Matsu) are under Fujian province, Peng Hu is under Taiwan province...tbh, actually Taiwan culture is mostly originated from Fujian also...my main point is not to confuse Taiwan island with ROC, the term "Taiwan" cant really represent ROC...
Daily reminder taiwan is a province of china it belongs to china this is china internal affair outsiders n busy bodies if you have nothing better to do go n fly kite mainland chinese n taiwan chinese are brothers n sisters from the same family n roots if there is any pronlem we can settle it ourselves the warmongering evil n cruel united snakes of america created the proxy war the conflict between russia n ukraine where thousands of soldiers on both sides died n now these evil n cruel americans who have no regards for human lives are coming over to the south china sea to stir up trouble between mainand china n taiwan n those countries in the region these evil n cruel americans their country is thousands of miles away please go back where you belong dont bring trouble to us leave us alone we asians love to live in peace n harmony everywhere these evil n cruel americans go they bring nothing good with them except trouble chaos n misery to the people in those countries how evil n cruel these americans can get really evil n cruel
Many people do not understand the root cause of the war. The Russia-Ukraine war was due to the eastward expansion of NATO. In addition, there is another important reason, which is confusion of identity and racial hatred. Taiwanese people also have similar problems. They no longer identify themselves as The Chinese, on the contrary, think of themselves as Japanese and think that they were defeated in World War II. It is all related to education, and the changes in the education system were brought about by the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP)
@@heinzlockigehaar They have always been anti-communist ideologically. The difference is that it was originally Blue China's hatred of Red China, but later it turned into hatred of China, and their identity was distorted.
@@哼哼哼啊啊啊啊Taiwanese simply don't want the Long Dead Gone Soviet Sickle-Hammer flags erecting on Taiwan soil like Chinese Mainlanders do. Taiwanese don't want to be like Chinese Mainlanders taking the humiliation their pride. Taiwanese don't run their national business Soviet Sickle-Hammer Style. Chinese had lost their own identity and the country. It's humiliation nothing to be proud of.
Taiwan is part of Fujian province of China. Fujian and Taiwan shared the same culture and traditions. Taiwan will one day be reunited with motherland China. 👍👍👍👍👍♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
I agree, one day they should. The mainland has to give Taiwan a reason to want to reunite. The threats of destruction and airspace incursions are clearly driving them away.
1:13 really? That's how you tell the history of Taiwan? Jesus Christ. For the longest period of time, Taiwan had been the home to its indigenous tribes, of which today there are over a dozen. >In the 17th century the Spanish attempted a bit of colonization in the north, while the Dutch at the South. >The Dutch kicked the Spanish out, but were then kicked out themselves by a half Japanese half Chinese Ming Dynasty loyalist Koxinga. He viewed Taiwan as a base to get settled and prep for the "retaking of the mainland", as he believed that the Ming Dynasty was and should be the rightful dynasty in what we call mainland 'China'. He never achieved this and died in Taiwan. His son took over, and then his son after that, who eventually surrendered to the Qing Dynasty in 1683 > I believe the Qing only cared to attack Taiwan and defeat Koxinga's "Kingdom of Tungning" because these Ming loyalists were there. They might have never done so if they weren't. Following this, the Qing slowly sent people to Taiwan, but at most held effective jurisdiction along the West coast of Taiwan, roughly 40% (?) of Taiwan. "Historians refer to this period as "Every three years an uprising, every five years a rebellion."(三年一反、五年一亂)." It was said that they didn't really care too much for Taiwan, that they viewed it as a distant land that was unimportant and too troublesome to care about (there was malaria in Taiwan). >It wasn't until 1887 that Taiwan was formally made into a province, although still only having had effective control of a fraction of Taiwan. >After a defeat by the Japanese, the Qing ceded Taiwan to Japan (a reminder that the indigenous tribes were never consulted, a sad trend in history). The Japanese colonized Taiwan for 50 years. >After the Japanese were defeated in WW2, Taiwan was effectively handed to the ROC (Republic of China). Some Taiwanese people today agree with this decision, and those who dislike the ROC/KMT disagree with decision. (some like to point out that a vote was never conducted to see what the inhabitants of Taiwan wanted at the time). I am personally curious to know what percentage of Taiwanese people in 1945 would've wanted the ROC to take over and how many didn't. It's important to note that they were the ones that enforced the Mandarin language onto Taiwan; prior to this they spoke Hokkien in Taiwan for centuries. They implemented their Chinese culture and education onto Taiwan, teaching the people to have a Chinese identity. There was friction between the Chinese who came to Taiwan after 1945, and the other Han Taiwanese people who were already there. >Some view that the ROC/KMT defended Taiwan and its islands from communist expansionism, while others viewed that they made Taiwan and the Taiwanese a target by coming and setting up shop in Taiwan. It is true that at the very beginning, the CPC/Mao said that they would treat Taiwan as independent after the Japanese left, just like how they viewed how Korea would be treated. So it is possible that if the ROC/KMT, never took Taiwan, that the PRC would have left Taiwan alone, but who really knows? > Like Koxinga, Chiang Kai Shek also viewed Taiwan as a base to get settled and prep for a "retaking of the mainland" as he obviously believed that the ROC was the rightful government of China. He never achieved this, and died in Taiwan, like Koxinga, and like Koxinga, his son took over as President. How Taiwan democratized is an interesting topic. The ROC was supposed to be a democratic China, but some argue because they were dealing with warlords in China, and then a Chinese Civil War, followed by a Cold War that they "had" to be stringent to ward off communist expansion. I think the Chiangs wanted the ROC to eventually be democratic, but wanted to wait until they felt it was "safe" to do so. So I think you could attribute the democratization of Taiwan to grassroots activism of Taiwanese people, the slow willingness of Chiang's son Chiang Ching Kuo to transition to democracy, and also pressure from the international community/the US. It's important to note that Taiwanese people amongst themselves disagree and argue about these things, the history, what should/shouldn't have been, identity, etc etc. The one commonality is that we don't want to be invaded and annexed by a foreigner power (in today's case the PRC). Lastly I'll just note that the PRC has never held Taiwan in any century, decade, year, month, week, or day in history, and more importantly do not have the consent of the people of Taiwan. They view Taiwan as territory/property, not the Taiwanese as family.
There is a major problem with your statement “the one commonality is we don’t want to be invaded and annexed by a foreign power (in today’s case the PRC)”. That is PRC is not classified as a ‘foreign power’. Mainland China and most countries do not see it as an invasion by a foreign country but reclaiming territory just like Macau & HK. At the UN, Taiwan is not classified as a sovereign independent country. Another problem with your history lesson is the same can be applied to Tibet, Xinjiang, Liaoning, Inner Mongolia, Yunnan etc. you can talk about ancient history but what matters is the settlement of borders at the UN conventions after WW2. That’s why Taiwan is a domestic issue and not international like Russia-Ukraine.
Pretty much everything you said here is a problem so I don't even know if I should respond lol. The PRC may have official diplomatic relations and recognition with most countries now, but you have to look at the specific agreement of each country, the US for example recognizes the PRC, but does not recognize their claim over Taiwan. So you are spreading misinformation by claiming most countries share the same claim they do over Taiwan. Official diplomatic recognition and relations are not solely based on reality, merits, or principles, they are heavily influenced, if not sometimes completely dictated by money, power, strategy, and leverage. Anyone who doesn't understand this or pretends not to completely loses credibility. The PRC was also not recognized in the UN from 1949 (when they declared independence from us, not the other way around) to 1971, does that mean they weren't a country during this period? If North Korea had the leverage to convince the UN, international organizations and most countries around the world that South Korea wasn't a country, would that mean that South Korea wasn't a country? Contrary to what you and others might have been led to believe, the UN has not taken a position on Taiwan. They have only taken a position on China, and certain actors would have everyone believe that that China includes Taiwan, but that is not true. Even if you want to say that it is a domestic issue, the Qing dynasty handed China over to the ROC with the edict of abdication, and the ROC have not done so to the PRC. Going by "it's just a domestic issue", then the PRC should surrender since it has not received the edict of abdication. If it really is to benefit the people, it is the ROC that should collapse the PRC and retake the mainland, given our higher quality of life and freedoms, freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly, internet, etc, but we are not even seeking to do that anymore. The lesser of the two wants to take over, but they do not deserve to, nor are they qualified. It was the PRC that declared independence from our government, not the other way around. At the end of the day, regardless of anyone's narratives, it's one independent entity, the PRC, that wants to invade/annex another independent entity, the ROC. A territory they have never governed or held in any century, decade, year, month, week, day, hour, minute, or second in history, more importantly, they do not have the consent of the people. They seek political rape and they need to learn that that is unethical and should cease their desires to conquer.
@@danzwku your inability to comprehend and to grasp reality are the problems. Most countries don’t view China as a foreign invader as stated by you. Thus the moment Taiwan declares independence, China will invade and the world will not treat it as an injustice like Russia invading Ukraine. You can whine all you want about the negatives of China’s Communist government or extol the virtues of ‘democratic Taiwan’ or cite history from eons ago but the reality is you cross the redline, you bear the consequences … alone.
The US has been pitting Taiwan against mainland China all the time. It is never about democracy or freefom. They tell you the CCP wants it unified. The fact is that most ordinary Chinese wants it unified. No political party can survive if it surrenders Taiwan. The separatists have reshaped the identity of Taiwan. The US says one China while sending endless weapons and military personnel to Taiwan. Ridiculous.
@user-oq1oc4qx4p I especially love your last paragraph. It sounds so persuasive. Can you please detach the Taiwanese from the Chinese? While doing this, please ensure that you are consistent with your version of democracy. I also love your story about Formosa.
@user-oq1oc4qx4p Well, you should have gone further into history. Let me give you more support. If we go back to history, there were hundreds of countries or kingdoms all across China. If we go back to history, North America had so many great countries and tribal nations. ...
@user-oq1oc4qx4p Good move. Do you know the Chinese legend about the origin of Japan? I am quite conscious of Taiwan's colonial mindset towards Japan and the United States.
@user-oq1oc4qx4p Sufficient or insufficient, I would never consider it reasonable to annex Japan into China. It is shocking to learn the Japanese are going to wage a war against China if China has a war to unify Taiwan once the Taiwan separatists declare their independence or similar situations emerge.
Message for the Taiwanese: The only reason why the US supports Taiwan's independence from the People's Republic of China is because it wants to maintain US imperialism forever. If the US really believed in a nation's right to self-determination, why doesn't the US support Puerto Rico's independence? On the contrary, the US militarily invaded Puerto Rico 125 years ago to make her its colony. The US has refused to comply with 42 United Nations resolutions asking it to immediately return Puerto Rico's sovereignty to the Puerto Ricans. It is important to mention that by doing so, the US is committing a crime against humanity. The US today is unconditionally supporting the artificial colonial settler state of Israel to commit genocide against the Palestinians in their own homeland of Palestine. Do real democracies commit genocide? The US committed genocide against the indigenous people of America in order to establish its own artificial colonial settler state in America. If the US were a democracy, would it have 38 million Americans living in poverty today, while 8 of the 10 richest men in the world are US citizens? China, on the other hand, has already eradicated her poverty, despite having 4 times the US' population! And if the US were a democracy, why are only 40% of its citizens satisfied with our government, while 90% of Chinese are satisfied with theirs? Don't vote to end up like Ukraine!
And all this means little to taiwan. The taiwanese people still dont want to be ruled by a authoritsrian china. And they will defend themself. The reason for america to help them doesnt matter for them
@@sH-ed5yfThat's because the medias in in Taiwan and the west keep telling the fake propaganda about PRC to the local people. You are also stupid and blind to fully accept the fake western propaganda. You call PRC "authoritarian" but you know nothing about how people living in PRC.
@@sH-ed5yf They are unwilling just because of the ROC authorities' continuous anti-communist propaganda and persecution against the left for more than 70 years. When we overthrow this reactionary authority and allow the people of Taiwan to be the masters of our own country like the people of the mainland, they will be willing.
Taiwan is an island province of China. Both the ROC and PRC constitutions recognize this fact. furthermore, the ROC actually claims greater territory than the PRC. The USA has no jurisdiction in Taiwan and has nothing to say about how the disputes are settled and reunification is accomplished. Edit: The one fact not mentioned is the ROC Constitution claims sovereignty for all of China and clearly states it can only be change by a constitutional amendment. Neither maker party has the congressional votes to change that.
China did not split in two. No no no. Taiwan remains a Prefecture of the PRC after 1949. A renegade KMT continued the civil war from the Prefecture of the PRC. Nothing has changed. Taiwan as a territory remains part of the PRC. Strategic ambiguity is America speaking with forked tongue.
Taiwan is a world flashpoint is just like Ukraine and Gaza, they are the making of the world superpower (singular). Taiwan had been, still is and will be forever an inalienable part of Greater China, who is to dispute that? Taiwan’s legitimacy doesn’t hinge on the US, not the Taiwan presldemtial election but the whole Chinese people, both domestic and foreign based. No doubt, China will defend Taiwan against foreign interference in the same way as they did during the Korean War. It’s ironic that, for 70 odd years cross straits have enjoyed relative peace until recently when the US wanted to arrest the rise of China as an economic power, accusing China of everything from Hong Kong, Xinjang, Covid origins to SC Sea. Why?
@@licliff4360 exactly, Taiwan doesn’t only belong to Taiwanese alone it belongs to the whole 1.4 billion plus Chinese peoples. Taiwan doesn’t have sovereignty by itself. Its legitimacy derives from the sovereignty of the Greater China.
Great summary of the situation ! I've been living in Taiwan for almost 15 years and have always been lamenting how poorly western medias misportrayed Taiwan's history situation. It's great to see an accurate one for a change.
2:10 framing that the ROC mostly got international recognition simply because of the US? The ROC was a founding member of the UN in 1945. Official diplomatic recognition and relations are not solely based on reality, merits, or principles, they are heavily influenced, if not sometimes completely dictated by money, power, strategy, and leverage. Anyone who doesn't understand this or pretends not to completely loses credibility. The PRC was also not recognized in the UN from 1949 (when they declared independence from us, not the other way around) to 1971, does that mean they weren't a country during this period? If North Korea had the leverage to convince the UN, international organizations and most countries around the world that South Korea wasn't a country, would that mean that South Korea wasn't a country?
China has territory disputes with Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, Philippines, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, Bhutan, Nepal, Tibet, Brunei. These are all the countries in which China claims territory, you don't need to be a genius to figure this one out.
The Taiwan issue is China's internal affairs, and the United States' interference in the politics of other countries is entirely out of their own strategic considerations and not really for so-called justice. They can even use a bag of laundry detergent as an excuse to start a war, as long as it helps them maintain global dominance. The Taiwan issue is just an excuse to contain China, even though China has made many efforts to regain Taiwan peacefully over the decades, such as ceding benefits to Taiwan through ECFA for decades. However, the United States continues to provoke disputes out of its own interests, trying to trigger a real war to weaken China.
I would also like to add one more point: Don’t think Taiwan is too innocent. When Taiwan was first separated from China in 1949, Taiwan had a seat in the United Nations and had better economic, military and Western support. They could have declared independence at that time, and China had no ability to stop it at that time. But why didn't this happen? The fact is that Taiwan identifies as one country with China, and its goal is to counterattack the mainland and regain control of China. When it was stronger, it kept sending military planes to threaten the mainland. But now, when it was weaker, it began to seek independence, shouting about so-called peace. In other words, Taiwan essentially identifies with the mainland as the same country. The Taiwan issue is actually China's internal affairs. The current situation is completely unilaterally shaped by the United States for its own benefit. As the Taiwanese government changes textbooks and demonizes China, a new generation of young people gradually loses their understanding of history and culture, making peaceful reunification increasingly difficult.
Taiwan is Taiwan! China is China! Why is Taiwan an internal affair of China? Taiwan has its own military, its own people, and its own laws. Chinese cannot go to Taiwan without a visa. Taiwanese have never spoken to the Chinese government about taxes. Every Taiwanese knows that China is going to invade and occupy their homeland.
What motivates the US to care about the Taiwanese people? Same old playbook that applied to all the wars that the US has created it in the last 40 years Divine and conquest While carrying out this task's more than 30 Years spending billions of dollars on taxpayer to establish a military base that surrounds China. The objective is to stop China's economic growth from growing exponentially. Being second to non-white races is a source of fear and panic. China is on course to regain its status as a stronger and powerful nation than it was 500 years ago, when Europeans first discovered China. "A nation that forgets its past has no future" " The more you know about the past, the better perpared you're for the future.
Im a Chinese student. I studied in Taiwan for the third year of my uni last year. I wanna talk about what I have experienced. Taiwan's cultural subjectivity has been severely destroyed. Most people think that Westernization is modernization，and taiwan can only enter modern society through Westernization. In many parades, the slogans will be "aligned with Western countries". young people tend to live in a way that advocates neoliberalism，it is indeed a pursuit themselves, but its a kind of pursuit themselves in a conformity way，China has never walked out of self-criticism and binary opposition too， I believe that every Chinese student who first time downloads vpn will be shocked, reflect and take on their own responsibilities. China has never walked out of the profound internalization of the imperial structure，and I will never laugh at it, nor will I betray it，it sounds conservative，but very citizen has the responsibility to obtain national subjectivity
That is a piece of misinformation right there. Taiwan is not caught in the middle of conflict between US and China . It is the US who is caught between the conflict of China and Taiwan. And US can opt to help or not to help Taiwan in an unlikely event. So NO, Taiwan is not in the middle of US-China conflict.
Taiwanese are forced to say "maintain status quote". China keeps saying Taiwan's independence means immediately wiping out all population on the island.
May I correct you that at 4:27,you said “USA acknowledged Taiwan is part of china “, that is not true. USA has never said that (i challenge you to prove me wrong). What USA has said was “one china policy “, which is the so called “strategic ambiguity “. To the PRC, it means ROC belongs to PRC. To the ROC, it means PRC belongs to ROC. As ridiculous as it sounds, it was the USA position.
corporatist oligarchy. U$A is not a democracy it's a corporate autocracy ruled by the big corporates. Global interests are not about good will between people rather about where profits are to be made.
@@WaveRider1989 That's fine if you are doing all that just for profit. But the problem is instead of telling those countries straight that "Hey, I here to make money, to suck you blood." They will say "I'm the savior. I'm here to save you, to help you. I'm here to bring you demo-crazy!" That's disgusting.
@@ZX235w3 You are exactly right, brother! KMT should claim mainland China (if they can) because it is in the ROC constitution. That's exactly the logic. They can do it either peacefully or continue with the civil war. Independence is not an option all along because it is not in their constitution. It is illegal to declare independence. It's like Biden can't just sign a law tomorrow to ban all the guns in US cause carrying guns is a giving right by the US constitution, correct? If he sign that law tomorrow, he'll be breaking the law, wouldn't he? Same logic here. So ROC can't declare independence. Their constitutional goal is to reunify with the mainland.
Not now, Taiwanese simply don't want to be associated with the Long Dead Gone Soviet had left a Sickle-Hammer Party CCP in China. Chinese take the humiliation their pride, since they don't know that they had lost their own country. 5 dirty stars flag is nothing without Sickle-Hammer flags backing. The middle class people of the 5 dirty stars flag are selling their assets for seeking asylums in the US. Up to date since 2022 55,000. Still going.
The US does not acknowledge that Taiwan is part of China. It merely acknowledges that Beijing considers Taiwan a part of China. This does not mean they accept or agree with Beijing's position.
So why doesn’t the United States have an embassy in Taiwan? 95% of the UN member states only recognize the PRC, The United States can continue to play this kind of word game, but don’t forget the reality. When the CCP only recognized North Korea and North Vietnam, the CCP captured Seoul, and the Viet Cong captured Saigon. Even if the United States recognized South Korea and South Vietnam, the United States would force the CCP to use force. If China is reunified, the United States will not get a pro-American China.
@@heinzlockigehaar First, apply for a travel permit to and from Taiwan from the local police station, and then take this permit to the Taiwan Ministry of the Interior to apply for a endorsement to enter Taiwan. NOT VISA, Visa is issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
I think you miss talking about the micro chip perspective in this topic. Taiwan is and is going to stay the biggest manufacturing country of the sophisticated micro chips for the time being making it a very important geo political topic.
If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialism, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow it.” ~ Deng Xiaoping speech at the United Nations, April 10, 1974
The United States' sales of weapons to Taiwan are actually interference in China's internal affairs and cause obstacles and damage to China's peaceful reunification. China's tolerance has limits.~, Deng Xiaoping 1981
The US do not agree that Taiwan is part of China. They acknowledge that the PRC thinks this is the case, but withhold agreement. The US (and most other countries) have a policy (not a principle) that seeks to prevent a CCP tantrum, but not more than this.
China doesn't need the rogue US regime approval on anything about its province of Taiwan.Taiwan has for time immemorial been China's province and territory,both history,UN and municipal law proves this without any fuss!
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To be more specific, it is Republic of China in Taiwan. 🇹🇼 Accoding to The Constitution of The Republic of China (1947): Article 4. The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly. In 1947, the terriory of ROC included Mainland China and Taiwan, rathan than PRC because PRC was establised in 1949. However, the National Assembly in Taiwan was disbaned in 2005. Therefore, there is no way to alter the territory in Article 4. Unless they alter the Constitution Article 4. and that is almost imposible to alter the Constitution. This is the story about terriory between Taiwan and Mainland China.
Both sides agreed to separate. Just like Ukraine and Russia agreed in 1991 to go their separate ways. If Taiwan wants to become a sovereign country they have to negotiate with mainland China to end the Chinese Civil War and both sides agree to go their separate ways.
The voice of unite in Taiwan island has been covered...those people recognized themself as Chinese because they recognise Republic of China as thier nationality.
@@Sp3ll633 there is no country called Taiwan, their official name is Republic of China...ROC controlled Taiwan, Ma Zhu, Jin Men and Peng Hu, total 4 islands.
@@dhruv7523-o1e don't you know PRC warplanes and battleships already went to Taiwan island so many times? even now PRC warplanes patrol on Taiwan island few times a week, so what you going to do? I dont think there is any problem on patroling on own territory.
Hahaha, that's a good one. They just need to find an excuse instead of facing facts. The fact is China is technically still in a Civil War from 1945 till now, PRC in mainland vs ROC in Taiwan, which might the easiest way to explain the situation --- Still in Civil War technically, truce but not end because no peace agreement has ever been signed.
blame the dog.... wtf ever... Putin sucks and American foreign policy suck... this is a imperialist struggle that the working class will pay for... We are getting called out by all other capitalist nations....they want a piece too... the yankee needs to change course or lose it all....this would require skill which ameri-cia has lacked for quite sometime.
China 🇨🇳 needs to play by the rules and respect human rights. Xi Jinping will be held accountable for any Chinese interference into Taiwan's elections.
Japan surrendered sovereignty over Taiwan in the Treaty of San Francisco (1952). Neither ROC nor PRC were a part of the treaty. The official stance of those who are a part of the treaty (US, Japan, UK, etc.) is that the sovereignty status of Taiwan is not yet determined. In Chiang Kai-shek's own diary he admitted that ROC does not have sovereignty over Taiwan. ROC Minister of Foreign Affairs George Kung-ch'ao Yeh also said the same after signing the Taipei Treaty with Japan. Taiwan is an unclaimed island under custody by the combined Allied Force, and ROC is a government in exile currently residing on it.
When they surrendered, shouldn't the island just be returned to the previous rightful owner by default, just like all other territories in Mainland China that Japan occupied? Even if (and I mean even if) it was "unclaimed" as you said, it was claimed by Republic of China when KMT fled the mainland and set it's capital in Taipei. The unclaimed theory just doesn't hold and fall apart.
@@rog4464 The Manchurian Qing Dynasty ended. The idea of a Chinese nation state was invented by Liang Qichao in 1900 for the purpose of revolting against the Manchurian empire. They are not the same, so China is not the "previous owner" of Taiwan. Funny thing, the Manchurians thought Taiwan belonged to Japan since ancient times. If China want to claim Qing Dynasty assets they should firstly pay the Qing Dynasty debts owed, including the $1.6 trillion Qing Dynasty bonds plus interests.
@@caenix I think you are trying to rewrite history and live in your own reality. If you think the Qing Manchurian thought that Taiwan belonged to Japan, just google “qing map” and educate yourself. And you are like saying that France is not France after the revolution, and it doesn’t own what France owned. The reasoning of the separatists is absurd. Just keep coming up with strange and jaw-dropping excuses.
Fake news! Taiwan Is Not self governed, it's governed by ROC. Since 1949, the ROC has continued to exercise effective jurisdiction over the main island of Taiwan and a number of outlying islands, leaving Taiwan and China each under the rule of a different government.
Not true on what she said. Japan never returned Taiwan to China. Japan renounced its claim of Taiwan per the 1951 Treaty of Peace with Japan. Japan gave USA the administrative authority to the islands that it renounced. If a country has some legitimate claim to Taiwan, it would be USA.
Well done. Great stuff. With PRC mainland ecomony issues, tensions could increase in this decade. The PRC seems to have more internal reasons for raising the stakes over the issue than the ROC has. Both sides lose in a conflict and the Sino-US regional superpower war looms BIG! Many thanx. Milan
china hopes taiwan stays status quo. The danger is some US and Taiwan politicians tend to provoke to get more votes, while Chinese politicians don’t need that in the first place due to different political system.
It's none of that. Very simple: Chinese cannot rise up in the world with internal political divide such as Taiwan-Mainland conflict, and white men are trying to stop Chinese from rise up. So, who have most determinations?
Good video, but it missed the point of “why” the west is strategically interested in Taiwan. The answer is TSMC. Almost all global small scale semiconductor manufacturing is in Taiwan. We had a small taste of semiconductor supply chain issues during COVID related to availability of new cars. With recent advances in AI this becomes even more critical to ensure Taiwan is stable in the short term and small scale semiconductor manufacturing gets diversified into the west - the CHIPS act.
This is just propaganda from the United States, TSMC is not important to both China and the United States. The purpose of the United States doing this is to provoke a war between China and Taiwan, and then use this reason to make Western countries support Taiwan. This is exactly the same as what the United States did in Ukraine
PRC has had war, direct or indirect, with the us in Korea and Vietnam. US was telling to the world that it didn’t lose while the wars ended with the fact that it didn’t win either. Can’t imagine another war between them, with the strength of China today.
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@@whitequetzal1190 What does this isolated piece of history has to do with the price of eggs?
In case you’re wondering, the actual name for Taiwan is the republic of CHINA. It is another China that nobody recognises.
You fail to mention Taiwan itself and not China's ROC government only. Before the coming of ROC refugees from China in 1949, Taiwan was already Japanized after 50 years being one country with Japan. After the end of world war II, Taiwan was freed and gained outright independence from Japan after the 1951 treaty. That was the basis of status quo.
@@ThorNado24 Very true.
@@whitequetzal1190 For some hypocritical reason you can't seem to see the glaring hypocrisy of your "assertions" : The people of Hawaii (all races) choose to be part of America with voting rights. The people of Taiwan choose NOT TO BE PART OF EVIL CHINA, and yet you chinese propagandists don't respect that. And if you claim that a land should be ruled by its natives, then Taiwan should be ruled by South East Asians, not any chinese...do you not see your own glaring hypocrisy ????
As a American Navy veteran I completely reject defending Taiwan under any circumstance and I actively vote against anyone advocating we do.
Thank you!
But cxngre$$ ask 3 headmaster to resign , for they don't punish those student demand to stop of Gxzx event
As Americans we differ on that
@@dominicjohnson307 so.i guess it's acceptable to put your family life in danger also
The US don't want any competition in the world power so they keeping China on low 🤔
Good job al jazeera. Balanced, informative, and not full of propoganda. Most issues are not black and white like how western media likes to potray it.
True.
When one knows nothing, everything unfortunately seems balanced.
The video fails to address the real issue why US is so involved.
90% of the most advanced chips comes from Taiwan and that is an economic advantage that US will not like to fall exclusively into China's hands.
All of Apple's Chips, NVIDIA, some Intel, etc. are manufactured in Taiwan, using western equipment (ASML).
China spends more than 400billion annually, importing Chips, more than they spend importing oil. It's an economic battle, not pure political
@@iocoker also America has a policy of containment against communism
@@iocokerThis shows that u don't really get it. u don't know the history. When the PRC was founded in 1949, China was already making plans to take back Taiwan, but back then, the US sent their Seventh Fleet into the Taiwan Strait. And at that time, there was no TSMC yet. It's been more than 70 years now, and a lot has happened in between.
As someone joked "If the Chinese land in Taiwan, would the USA be able to tell the difference between the 2 sides?
well just hit the winning side
They won't.
In 1950's, US Airforce were very active in bombing mission in Mainland China's coastal cities & fortifications to assist Chiang Kai-shek to retake the Mainland from CCP. However, they did not allow any Chinese engineers to get close to any of their planes in their airbase in Taiwan. Because any Chinese, eventhough they live in Taiwan, are potentially communists & enemy.
😂 thats hilarious.
They sure could tell just fine between the Koreans in the Korean War and the Vietnamese in the Vietnam War and the Afghans in the Afghan War. Maybe try educating yourself in military history instead of making such ignorant comments. Wars arent that simple
Funny & true question.😆
As a person of Chinese descent who would have preferred if the KMT won the war and not the CPC I will say this: This strictly a family issue between the Republic of China and The People's Republic of China. In none of their names is 'America' written so they should mind their own business and let the Chinese living on both sides of the straight sort this out themselves. Also good job on being as unbiased as possible in this video, many people conveniently leave out facts pertinent to this issue such as a very simple fact of the very name of Taiwan itself. It IS the Republic of China (officially, on passports etc etc) and any way you slice it is Chinese no matter what insane mental gymnastics some in the West apply when viewing this issue.
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@jesussonofgod6284 you do realise CCP bans Christians from worshipping Jesus right?
Family don't threaten its own.
@@nelsonchang4881 how about American Civil War？
I would also like to add one more point: Don’t think Taiwan is too innocent. When Taiwan was first separated from China in 1949, Taiwan had a seat in the United Nations and had better economic, military and Western support. They could have declared independence at that time, and China had no ability to stop it at that time. But why didn't this happen? The fact is that Taiwan identifies as one country with China, and its goal is to counterattack the mainland and regain control of China. When it was stronger, it kept sending military planes to threaten the mainland. But now, when it was weaker, it began to seek independence, shouting about so-called peace. In other words, Taiwan essentially identifies with the mainland as the same country. The Taiwan issue is actually China's internal affairs. The current situation is completely unilaterally shaped by the United States for its own benefit. As the Taiwanese government changes textbooks and demonizes China, a new generation of young people gradually loses their understanding of history and culture, making peaceful reunification increasingly difficult.
Bravo 👏🏻
it's like in the old days when your great grandfather didn't apply for land title for the land that he cleared and closed it with fence for his next generation. At that time people were so nice and innocent thinking that nobody would try to grab his land and forgot to think that people change in time
Well, you put it in a way people can understand the relationship between the two much easier.
I have lived in Taiwan for 20+years and I would say this, most tension and conflict created by the U.S.!
U.S. keep using Taiwan to pressed China and as propaganda to marketing themselve around the world as the solution against the so-called evil communism, but the truth is U.S. need to create this idea, tension and fear in people's minds so they can sell weaponry to all the conflict zones around the world for their treasury, the same time intimidating other countries like Russia, China, Iran... all they consider the enemy, to uphold their position as the leader and the only powerhouse on earth, to gain alliance.
United States as a country was made by different races and slavery from northern Africa and some worker from the East in the early 20th century, it all started by the English and Irish plundering the natives and killing to get the lands they have now.
I laughed every time the white supremacist called themselves the true American and want to kick all others out.
U.S. and the Brits have allyship, gain tremendous powers and influence on the international stage after WWll and every since then they have controlled most of the world's economy.
When Russia declined and China raises in early 90s U.S. saw the potential threats from China and need someone or something to pressure China, keep China in its place, and saw Taiwan is the one can keeping an eye on China and also can be controlled by. Every now and then U.S. will play the Taiwan card, use it to demonize China to get others against it.
Look, I'm not saying China is perfect, but how U.S. and U.K. put their hands in to chaos the world began to reaches people's awareness, people starting to see and believe what they have done and starting to resent them.
It's clear the world will not have peace as long these two particularly keep brainwashed the world, people begin to realised all the lies and faults information they have presented.
The biggest terrorist are the U.S. and the U.K., just watch how they loss all their credibility supporting Israel, that's not humanity rights, not peace maker but a war and massacre starter!!
@@HK-ce2lj not really. The real story is that a bad guy got into your home and you tried your best to get him out, but you ran out of energy just to get him out of the house. When you rested for a while and gained strength, hoping to drive away this bad guy, you found that he called a gangster on the street and occupied your yard together. The government that fled to Taiwan at that time clearly had better weapons and equipment provided by Western countries, and had more money and troops. Why did they fail? Because they are this bad guy, oppressing and exploiting the people, and eventually being driven away by the people.
Taiwan and China have never been the same country. You understand, it was the Republic of China that victoriously took over Taiwan in the war. What does splitting Taiwan mean? Are you confusing things?
But here's the crucial question: Why is the US entitled to interfere in China's domestic matter with regards to Taiwan? Who made the US the governor of the world?
EXACTLY. The U.S. "assumes" it's the world's super power but it is a joke!
The USA thinks they’re the governor, nobody else except USA bootlickers thinks that.
they have the power to do so, so it is in their right to choose, if you had the power to do so, then it is in your right to choose as well.
It's not a domestic matter as Taiwan is an independent country. And the US is the governor of the world because the US is the World Hegemon
@@AW-zk5qb Taiwan is a province of China, and claims sovereignty over the mainland. Taiwan is NOT an independent country, has never declared independence, and likely never will. If Taiwan ever declares independence (risking annexation by Japan or America), China will immediately resume the Chinese Civil War and force Taiwan to reunify. This is a "red line" that automatically triggers Chinese military force, and has been warned many, many times.
I studied in Taiwan during the 90's at the same university (National Chengchi) as the associate professor in the video. At that time, Taiwan had just held its first presidential election. My roommate talked about going to the top of a mountain so that they could see the missiles from the mainland falling into the ocean in the distance. The political landscape was more fractured with more parties to choose from and the locals would tell you which taxis to take, or avoid, according to your political affiliation. Going to the mainland was still a big deal and the stories of reunited families who had been separated for over 40 years since the revolution were still common in the media and amongst locals. Now Taiwanese live and work in the mainland regularly and many have even married and set up households on both sides. The politics is still fraught and yet, on the people side, they are closer than they were for a long time. Cross-straight relations are complicated, and anyone who tries to simplify the situation is either naive or pushing an agenda.
You focused too much on the details. The big picture is quite simple. As the power of China grows, it needs to push its influence circle beyond the first island chain. As the power of the US declines, it will no longer have the capability to maintain the first island chain. If both US and China can calmly recognize such a power shift, Taiwan will be re-unified peacefully. If US does not want to accept its decline, then Taiwan will be re-unified militarily. What the people actually prefer is irrelevant.
Is it possible that China and Taiwan will go to war? I have read that China has sent balloons to Taiwan and that they are pressuring the Taiwanese to become one country with China.
@@emmeadowmitbbs3537 What nonsense logic is this? By your dumb logic, the US should have expanded their territory all the way ever since WW2. Yet they did not. The US has remained the same territorial size since 1945. Meanwhile China and Russia had been busy trying to expand their territory. China took over Mongolia, Tibet, and also went to skirmishes with neighbouring Russia and India. Russia took over almost all of Eastern Europe, before ceding when their communist empire collapsed, then today Russia is again trying to invade Eastern Europe
@@ZX235w3 Go get a proper education in real Chinese history, or shut up about it, China isn't a topic for uneducated dimwits to talk about.
I am tired of arguing with the other side, neither side can persuade the other through discussion anyway. As a "spectator" I just want to be done with this suspension and see the checkmate move made as soon as possible, wherever the chips may fall.@@emmeadowmitbbs3537
A simple analogy is if China started spending billions of dollars on arming Hawaii and funding Separatist elements to declare the island's independence from the US. How would America react to such actions?
Big difference is that Taiwan want to be independent and are, the other doesn’t. That analogy makes no sense. Your hate for America blinds you from logic
the consitution of tw, still define tw is a province of china, please study first!@@ulysseshenderson8717
@@ulysseshenderson8717 Nah, keep the whites out of Hawaii. Asians are welcome.
@@ulysseshenderson8717 You should know that the referendum in Hawaii was immoral because too many U.S. troops participated. Then wouldn’t it be enough to wait for more Chinese immigrants to go to Taiwan and then hold another referendum?
Do you support China to arm Donbass freedom fighters? Do you support Russia to defend Donbass against Ukraine invasion? Do you support sanctions against the United States for violating the United Nations Charter on China's sovereignty?
It’ll be a waste of money of china to do that only to find out that almost every single person in Hawaii wants to be American 😂
Let’s hope china isn’t as dumb as you
The elephant in the room is: Taiwan is the name of an island. It is a geological term. It is not a nation. Its government is Republic of China, which has the constitution that claims the whole of China, including both Mainland China and Taiwan. It is currently under suspended civil war with Mainland China, whose government is People's Republic of China, which also claims the whole of China.
That are legal facts. It is not about freedom or democracy or independence. You can go independent. You can go freedom. You can go democracy. But you need to go through the process of settling the civil war and reconcile the claims. It is like saying, "I am a nice guy. So I deserve to have this house where I live in." No you don't. That house has a claim on it. You also have a claim on it. There is no doubt about that. But your brother has a claim on it, EVEN IF HE NEVER SET FOOT ON THE HOUSE. He has a claim! You can not use other concepts like "I am nice." "I love freedom." "I am peaceful." "He is awful" as judgement for the claim. Only legal facts have meaningful result. Not feeling.
So both sides need to resume the Civil War and settle. Or they can talk peacefully and settle. But both sides need to settle, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
Totally right.
You are exactly right. PRC always been patient and push for peaceful unification for the last decades. They gave all kinds of benefits on trade so the Taiwanese can make money off the hugh mainland market and waiting for one day the ROC will come back to the table and talk. But the ROC kept pushing PRC away especially when the DPP is in power.
你说的太好，可惜有人眼是明瞎，所以看不到
Never heard of a city State?
Why should Taiwan have to give up their island?@@dice138
Taiwan's own constitution says that both taiwan area and mainland area belong to China.
Not to the PRC!
@thematthew761
PRC or ROC is a governing body, Taiwan is a province, China is a nation state (country). Understand now?
Still, Beijing has never controlled Taiwan@@waynegore5291
@@waynegore5291keep dreaming, and make sure you applied Taiwan visa before you visit Taiwan.
@heinzlockigehaar
Unfortunately, taiwan needs my tax money support dearly. In fact, I'm going to Taiwan next week WITHOUT a visa.
Realistically, just like Europe, taiwan is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without our support, period!
So, all the responsibility lies with the United States. The U.S. government opposes full reunification of China while not supporting Taiwan's independence. It aims to make the Taiwan issue a major headache for China
It shouldn't be a headache at all for China. The status quo has worked for decades and has kept taiwan and china make economic deals that both benefit from. This is simply China's nationalistic chauvinism showing. The only way this could be an actual threat to China is if the US installs a military base there, which I doubt it will since they benefit immensely from Taiwan's semi-conductor industry.
Two Chinas: the Republic of China 🇹🇼 and the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳.
The problem is the majority people in Taiwan believe they are "the Republic of China" instead of Taiwan. Funny !!
@@EHed-kv2wbThis is a legal issue. Taiwan is legally China’s territory.
@@貔貅神獸 The people of taiwan the people who live there don't want reunification. They do not want independence either. Respect what the people want. Maintain the status quo that has been in place for decades, it is the most peaceful for all people.
it's really only about power, the us has been trying so hard to weaken china's economy and destroy the best tech companies there... china taking taiwan with the semiconductor infrastructure there would be a huge blow for the us@@EHed-kv2wb
One has to go check Taiwan's Constitution before making any comment...... Commenting before reading through Taiwan's Constitution is like a cow talking nonsense .....
Taiwan's Constitution states that Taiwan's territories include many China mainland provinces and even Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu ...... and the city where Xi Jing Pin is living now....
Actually ROC's constitution also asserts that the Outer Mongolia is also a part of China, because the map of ROC is based on the map of the Qing empire before the revolution in 1911. So the map of ROC is in fact much larger than the map of the PRC.
Yep! Therefore if it wants to declare its independence, it must also have the votes from people within Mainland…
The ROC's constitution was served in 1946, by the time Taiwan still belonged to Japan in law. The ROC's constitution has nothing to do with Taiwan.
@@kianono3209 The ROC constitution was drafted in 1947. Taiwan already returned to China in October 1945. Imperial Japan's "law" of terrirtories outside of Japan, such as Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and so on, were not legal laws. Between 1850 to 1945, Japan just invaded everyone in Asia and annexed lands, those are illegal occupations and war crimes.
After 1945, China represented the Allied to take over Formosa, now Taiwan.
in 1951 Japan announced to give up some of its territory, including Taiwan and Korea, in the meeting with the Allied in San Francisco.
Both ROC and PRC were not allowed to the meeting to sign the peace treaty with Japan, for some Allied like the USSR, UK, and US didn't recognize their right.@@walking_luggage8105
the USA is like that one person in your friend group who no one likes, but who keeps trying to force themselves into every conversation and every event
That’s probably so your opinion. The opinion polls showed differently.
People like you forget Russia was behaving the same as US during the Cold Way. The whole reason US was fighting communism was because Russia was actively spreading it around the world
@@SoYappyLol, you mean polls from EU countries or Japan? They are just well trained pet dogs that don't have and don’t need to have opinions. People kindly call them “US allies”
No one likes? Love the America bashing. Many of the things people all over the world enjoy are because of the US global order. When we intervene it's a problem, when we don't intervene....ITS ALSO A PROBLEM. People don't know what they want.
Also the one who keeps peace in the group, nobody in the group goes to war with someone in the group. Just be in the group.
Balanced summary of the political background. But you have think deeper why on earth would US risk WW3 to defend Taiwan in the first place. It's no longer about communism, despite the propaganda. You didn't touch on the importance/benefit to US for Taiwan to remain outside China's control. We all know that China is a serious and possibly only rival to US's global economic power and overall hegemony. Taiwan's advanced semiconductor industry is one reason. Another is the geo-strategic position of Taiwan. The line of American military bases and allies stretching from South Korea to Japan to Taiwan to the Philippines forms a unbroken net that prevents China from projecting it's power into the Pacific Ocean. Think of the Pacific Ocean as chessboard and US has it's row of pawns right up there lined right across his opponent's front door preventing him from even stepping out of his own half. If Taiwan falls into China's hands, it's going to be a very big 'hole' in the net.
Right on the money. Politics and rhetorics are just cover arts for what this truly is about for the US.
Taiwan has its own system, laws and military. It has never belonged to the People's Republic of China, and the People's Republic of China has never owned Taiwan for a day!
A very good and unbias analysis, Kudo
This is a rather weak assessment of the subject. To fully understand it from all three sides - The PRC, The ROC, and the US - requires a deeper and more, way more, dive into the past history and how things have evolved to the present day. There are numerous books on the subject. One of many is "The Trouble with Taiwan", a very good and worthwhile read.
You replied to me, but it is not posted here. Your response was:
"Seek TheTruth what do you mean by 'this'? the video is just a summary . you yourself said there are numerous books on the subject matter. how long did you spend reading ALL those books? five minutes? ten? you expect them to cover all that is written in those books in a few short minutes?"
Let's look at what is actually presented in 'this' summary:
- Concerning/pertaining to the Xi clip - Why not mention the fact that Xi has claimed to "not rule out reunification by force"? There are numerous existing 'clips' of him stating exactly that. Why wasn't one of those clips not shown instead?
- The same applies to the Biden clip - There are also other existing Biden 'clips' that could have been used - most importantly - where after he states "That's the commitment we made" he adds - "by law". Which it is. The Taiwan Relations Act was passed by the 96th Congress and signed into law. Where the US does not oppose reunification - BUT - is against reunification "by means of force" (and as mentioned Xi doesn't rule out).
- The 'summary' includes the UN Resolution - But no mention of The Taiwan Relations Act?
- And the included mention of US arms sales to Taiwan - The Taiwan Relations Act also states that "the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan." Yet there is no mention of this when they flash the news headlines - how convenient.
- And then there's the mention of the upcoming 2024 US election - The Taiwan Relations Act being US law, it doesn't matter who the President of the US is. He/she must uphold the law - yes? So this subtle jab and this so-called expert's take that the US attitude towards the Taiwan issue has some relevance as to who is or is not the POTUS can be considered somewhat bogus and quite a stretch - don't you think?
How long would it add to this video by including these, IMO, rather very important, pertinent, and true facts (as more context/clarification to these already presented items) - I mean, every point I mention is already included 'this' summary - yes?
So, one minute? a minute and a half?
IMO, that's 'cherry-picking' and irresponsible reporting. Especially since it appears they wish to 'come-off' to the viewers as being unbiased and representing all sides of the issue.
Btw, you mention some pertinent points and facts. But we both know that there is more - much, much more - to this. A substantial amount of which is readily available by reading "ALL those books".
Read more books..
Officially , Taiwan and mainland still lock in civil war.
This is a rather weak assessment of the subject. To fully understand it from all three sides - The PRC, The ROC, and the US - requires a deeper and more, way more, dive into the past history and how things have evolved to the present day. There are numerous books on the subject. One of many is "The Trouble with Taiwan", a very good and worthwhile read.
The only major issue was the timeline. Taiwan was a province of China for roughly 200 years. That doesn't mean that they were only a part of China for 200 years. In fact, the island of Taiwan was claimed by China's first emperor; so Taiwan island has been an official part of China for over 2,000 years. China had a 'light hand' for much of that time, choosing to only trade with the native Taiwanese, allow some Chinese to migrate there, and fighting off colonial aggressors such as the Spanish and the Dutch.
How come the Chinese mainlanders don't even know that they had lost their country? Don't they know that without the backups of the Long Dead Gone Soviet Sickle-Hammer flags, the 5 dirty stars flags are nothing? The middle class Chinese are selling their assets seeking asylum from the US right now. Up to date since 2022 55,000.
More than 2,000 years?
Your history is a mess!
Can you tell me which Chinese official has governed Taiwan in more than 2,000 years?
I can tell that in history,
only the Netherlands, the Qing Empire and Japan governed Taiwan.
Your timeline and information is not exactly correct either. May want to think before you post next time.
Taiwan is Taiwan! China is China! Why is Taiwan an internal affair of China? Taiwan has its own military, its own people, and its own laws. Chinese cannot go to Taiwan without a visa. Taiwanese have never spoken to the Chinese government about taxes. Every Taiwanese knows that China is going to invade and occupy their homeland.
From what I just Googled, past Chinese dynasties tend to avoid intermarriage between the Han Chinese and the native Taiwanese inhabitants. As the means to protect their tribes and prevent loss of land. Until that current KMT lost Chinese civil war retreated from the mainland. This is in fact an ongoing Chinese civil war. I don’t intend to see more Chinese moving here into the UK, so having a war breaking out in Taiwan is the last thing I want for my country. I’ll share this news with my mates who don’t yet understand the history behind this standoff.
It started very badly if you don't introduce the history that ROC and PRC were in an eight-year Chinese civil war, ROC lost and fled to Taiwan province in 1949 stealing all reserves of gold, foreign exchange and silver that belong to all Chinese people. The US sent its aircraft carrier to the Taiwan Strait to stop PRC from taking Taiwan back, and has been in between ever since.
In 1971, UN general assembly voted for PRC to replace ROC as the sole legal gov of China and took the seat for China at the security council. 183 out of 194 countries in the world recognize PRC as the legal government of China instead of ROC.
In 1979, the US and China established diplomatic relations on condition that the US recognizes there is only one China and PRC is the sole legal government of China.
But subsequently, US regime changed/brain washed Taiwanese and uses Taiwan as a proxy against PRC. If you don't want your country split by others, please refuse to support separatists--I am sure there will be people who take issues with "belonging to your country", which doesn't change the fact that Taiwan is part of China.
It needs to be clarified that Taiwan is not a country, it is a province in China (either PRC or ROC governs China, Taiwan is part of China).
Why is the answer to every conflict or stand off "thus, we have to buy more US made weapons"😭
well you know too much
Because of a pesky thing called hegemony
Because they rather align with the US than, let's say, with the PRC.
Test.
Because they rather align with the US than, let's say, with the PRC.
Because they prefer to be friends with the United States.
The problem is the US. If this was a US island , can China bring a ship closer to it ? The US confirmed Taiwan belongs to China but at same time encouraging taiwan to stay independent. America should know it fought hard to maintain its unity from the South. China also should not be taken for weak . US should know they supported south korea and south Vietnam, the end Americans know they all lost , will supporting Taiwan prove a different to the earlier defeats? This is not US land ,they better stay away .
The US is more noise than power in the China Seas. Land fire-power over-whelms sea (fleet) fire power especially in A2AD zone. China industrial capacity over whelms that of US. The US runs a superior media war giving the world the opposite impression but it's navy and its AD are almost powerless against Chinese top end missiles. China also has both high and low orbit sat surveillance providing 24/7 situation awareness, and intelligence on incoming fleet fire power.
Incoming fleet? When will China be able to build super carriers to match the U.S.? 2070?
Lots of people talking about Chinese navy not powerful enough yet but they forget that navy operates under the fire cover of a fort. China is a huge fort with the largest industrial capacity in the world and now with newly formed Russian ties, access to endless natural resources combined with a huge ever expanding navy that grows bigger everyday. The Navy is secondary when the mainland can literally produce millions of missiles during wartime.
@@DaddyFatSzack He said land-power, China has hundreds and hundreds of DF-17, DF-21 and DF-26, the South China Sea & Taiwan strait is their home turf, no U.S ship or aircraft carrier will be operational for more than a few hours. U.S would need to stay 2000 miles way, even leaving Guam behind.
Nothing wrong with having pride in your Country and all but don't kid yourself. War would be devastating for both countries.
@@DaddyFatSzack Apparently you need to brush up on A2AD concepts. The land-power's fire power is land launched and air launch guided missiles. Intermediate range missile have ranges to 2000km. No fleet is required on land power side for Area denial.
Pushing US propaganda and calling it an "explanation". Shameless.
this is how they controlling people mindset...
Shameless.
In fact, the split between mainland China and Taiwan originated from the civil war between the Kuomintang and the Communist Party in 1949. The two sides never declared an armistice or signed any peace agreement. In other words, legally speaking, the civil war has not stopped, and the two sides of the Taiwan Strait are still in a hostile state of war. This is the current situation in the Taiwan Strait. Any attack by the mainland on Taiwan cannot be considered as a one-sided change of the status quo, because the war has never really ended. .
You have some insight on this. Except you have to add something like this : There was a time that TAIWAN was helped by the US and they were much stronger than China mainland at both economic and military levels. Why they didn't try and take the mainland China back then but they waited ? They wanted to take back the control of China. And I don't think it was not on their mind to do so. However time's changed. Before they know it, it was too late as China has been growning faster then they could have probablely imagined. So they changed their strategy : they want independance. the problem is : it's now too complicated for that either. They have made decisions to sleep in the same bed with the US, so better to assume the consequences.
The world is surrounded by US military 😢
Russians beg to differ
better than the Russians and Chinese lmao
Cry about it. 😊
@@slanphere not at all lmao
If I understand correctly, this is the fair between PRC and ROC. Why would US interfere their affairs and increase tension?
Because by doing it US control both!
US knew that if Taiwan returned to China, no other tools or exercise to slow down the development of China anymore
Because the US has made a formal commitment to Taiwan to protect its democracy. It’s also geopolitically advantageous …
@@elleryprescott Also because self-determination of the people is an important principle of modern international law.
Good that the US is on the right side for once!
@@martinfiedler4317if it is so what happens with Puerto Rico and USA?
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Please be specific...ROC-PRC or China Mainland-Taiwan....Taiwan mean the island it self and ROC actually control Taiwan, Jin Men, Ma Zhu and Peng Hu, total 4 islands...
Taipei or Taiwan it’s China 🇨🇳 already
I heard some of the smaller islands are under the province of Fujian, not under the province of Taiwan, but ruled by ROC (Taiwan).
@@Liboch roc or prc Taipei or Taiwan 🇹🇼 it’s China 🇨🇳 Hong Kong 🇭🇰 or Macao 🇲🇴 it’s China 🇨🇳 👍👍
@@Liboch Techinically, Jin Men and Ma Zhu(Matsu) are under Fujian province, Peng Hu is under Taiwan province...tbh, actually Taiwan culture is mostly originated from Fujian also...my main point is not to confuse Taiwan island with ROC, the term "Taiwan" cant really represent ROC...
@@leelin9783 ok
Long live the free and democratic country of Taiwan ❤ 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
An objective facts-telling story, thanks!
Daily reminder taiwan is a province of china it belongs to china this is china internal affair outsiders n busy bodies if you have nothing better to do go n fly kite mainland chinese n taiwan chinese are brothers n sisters from the same family n roots if there is any pronlem we can settle it ourselves the warmongering evil n cruel united snakes of america created the proxy war the conflict between russia n ukraine where thousands of soldiers on both sides died n now these evil n cruel americans who have no regards for human lives are coming over to the south china sea to stir up trouble between mainand china n taiwan n those countries in the region these evil n cruel americans their country is thousands of miles away please go back where you belong dont bring trouble to us leave us alone we asians love to live in peace n harmony everywhere these evil n cruel americans go they bring nothing good with them except trouble chaos n misery to the people in those countries how evil n cruel these americans can get really evil n cruel
Many people do not understand the root cause of the war. The Russia-Ukraine war was due to the eastward expansion of NATO. In addition, there is another important reason, which is confusion of identity and racial hatred. Taiwanese people also have similar problems. They no longer identify themselves as The Chinese, on the contrary, think of themselves as Japanese and think that they were defeated in World War II. It is all related to education, and the changes in the education system were brought about by the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP)
If you don’t understand, just zip your mouth up
How could you expect Taiwanese seeing themselves Chinese after Chinese knee down to the Long Dead Gone Soviet Sickle-Hammer flags?
@@heinzlockigehaar They have always been anti-communist ideologically. The difference is that it was originally Blue China's hatred of Red China, but later it turned into hatred of China, and their identity was distorted.
Russia wanted land and power
@@哼哼哼啊啊啊啊Taiwanese simply don't want the Long Dead Gone Soviet Sickle-Hammer flags erecting on Taiwan soil like Chinese Mainlanders do. Taiwanese don't want to be like Chinese Mainlanders taking the humiliation their pride. Taiwanese don't run their national business Soviet Sickle-Hammer Style. Chinese had lost their own identity and the country. It's humiliation nothing to be proud of.
Taiwan is part of Fujian province of China. Fujian and Taiwan shared the same culture and traditions.
Taiwan will one day be reunited with motherland China. 👍👍👍👍👍♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
japan used to rule Taiwan. Taiwan have japanese's culture .If the same culture should be reunited . Why not be reunited with japan
@@sbc5858你省人祖上都是福建移民。难道你母是日本老师？
I agree, one day they should. The mainland has to give Taiwan a reason to want to reunite. The threats of destruction and airspace incursions are clearly driving them away.
Nope!
@@sbc5858 What culture are the same? Why don’t Taiwanese speak Japanese? Why not worship the emperor and Japanese gods?
1:13 really? That's how you tell the history of Taiwan? Jesus Christ.
For the longest period of time, Taiwan had been the home to its indigenous tribes, of which today there are over a dozen.
>In the 17th century the Spanish attempted a bit of colonization in the north, while the Dutch at the South.
>The Dutch kicked the Spanish out, but were then kicked out themselves by a half Japanese half Chinese Ming Dynasty loyalist Koxinga. He viewed Taiwan as a base to get settled and prep for the "retaking of the mainland", as he believed that the Ming Dynasty was and should be the rightful dynasty in what we call mainland 'China'. He never achieved this and died in Taiwan. His son took over, and then his son after that, who eventually surrendered to the Qing Dynasty in 1683
> I believe the Qing only cared to attack Taiwan and defeat Koxinga's "Kingdom of Tungning" because these Ming loyalists were there. They might have never done so if they weren't. Following this, the Qing slowly sent people to Taiwan, but at most held effective jurisdiction along the West coast of Taiwan, roughly 40% (?) of Taiwan. "Historians refer to this period as "Every three years an uprising, every five years a rebellion."(三年一反、五年一亂)."
It was said that they didn't really care too much for Taiwan, that they viewed it as a distant land that was unimportant and too troublesome to care about (there was malaria in Taiwan).
>It wasn't until 1887 that Taiwan was formally made into a province, although still only having had effective control of a fraction of Taiwan.
>After a defeat by the Japanese, the Qing ceded Taiwan to Japan (a reminder that the indigenous tribes were never consulted, a sad trend in history). The Japanese colonized Taiwan for 50 years.
>After the Japanese were defeated in WW2, Taiwan was effectively handed to the ROC (Republic of China). Some Taiwanese people today agree with this decision, and those who dislike the ROC/KMT disagree with decision. (some like to point out that a vote was never conducted to see what the inhabitants of Taiwan wanted at the time). I am personally curious to know what percentage of Taiwanese people in 1945 would've wanted the ROC to take over and how many didn't.
It's important to note that they were the ones that enforced the Mandarin language onto Taiwan; prior to this they spoke Hokkien in Taiwan for centuries. They implemented their Chinese culture and education onto Taiwan, teaching the people to have a Chinese identity. There was friction between the Chinese who came to Taiwan after 1945, and the other Han Taiwanese people who were already there.
>Some view that the ROC/KMT defended Taiwan and its islands from communist expansionism, while others viewed that they made Taiwan and the Taiwanese a target by coming and setting up shop in Taiwan. It is true that at the very beginning, the CPC/Mao said that they would treat Taiwan as independent after the Japanese left, just like how they viewed how Korea would be treated. So it is possible that if the ROC/KMT, never took Taiwan, that the PRC would have left Taiwan alone, but who really knows?
> Like Koxinga, Chiang Kai Shek also viewed Taiwan as a base to get settled and prep for a "retaking of the mainland" as he obviously believed that the ROC was the rightful government of China. He never achieved this, and died in Taiwan, like Koxinga, and like Koxinga, his son took over as President.
How Taiwan democratized is an interesting topic. The ROC was supposed to be a democratic China, but some argue because they were dealing with warlords in China, and then a Chinese Civil War, followed by a Cold War that they "had" to be stringent to ward off communist expansion. I think the Chiangs wanted the ROC to eventually be democratic, but wanted to wait until they felt it was "safe" to do so. So I think you could attribute the democratization of Taiwan to grassroots activism of Taiwanese people, the slow willingness of Chiang's son Chiang Ching Kuo to transition to democracy, and also pressure from the international community/the US.
It's important to note that Taiwanese people amongst themselves disagree and argue about these things, the history, what should/shouldn't have been, identity, etc etc. The one commonality is that we don't want to be invaded and annexed by a foreigner power (in today's case the PRC).
Lastly I'll just note that the PRC has never held Taiwan in any century, decade, year, month, week, or day in history, and more importantly do not have the consent of the people of Taiwan. They view Taiwan as territory/property, not the Taiwanese as family.
There is a major problem with your statement “the one commonality is we don’t want to be invaded and annexed by a foreign power (in today’s case the PRC)”. That is PRC is not classified as a ‘foreign power’. Mainland China and most countries do not see it as an invasion by a foreign country but reclaiming territory just like Macau & HK. At the UN, Taiwan is not classified as a sovereign independent country.
Another problem with your history lesson is the same can be applied to Tibet, Xinjiang, Liaoning, Inner Mongolia, Yunnan etc. you can talk about ancient history but what matters is the settlement of borders at the UN conventions after WW2. That’s why Taiwan is a domestic issue and not international like Russia-Ukraine.
Pretty much everything you said here is a problem so I don't even know if I should respond lol. The PRC may have official diplomatic relations and recognition with most countries now, but you have to look at the specific agreement of each country, the US for example recognizes the PRC, but does not recognize their claim over Taiwan. So you are spreading misinformation by claiming most countries share the same claim they do over Taiwan.
Official diplomatic recognition and relations are not solely based on reality, merits, or principles, they are heavily influenced, if not sometimes completely dictated by money, power, strategy, and leverage. Anyone who doesn't understand this or pretends not to completely loses credibility.
The PRC was also not recognized in the UN from 1949 (when they declared independence from us, not the other way around) to 1971, does that mean they weren't a country during this period?
If North Korea had the leverage to convince the UN, international organizations and most countries around the world that South Korea wasn't a country, would that mean that South Korea wasn't a country?
Contrary to what you and others might have been led to believe, the UN has not taken a position on Taiwan. They have only taken a position on China, and certain actors would have everyone believe that that China includes Taiwan, but that is not true.
Even if you want to say that it is a domestic issue, the Qing dynasty handed China over to the ROC with the edict of abdication, and the ROC have not done so to the PRC. Going by "it's just a domestic issue", then the PRC should surrender since it has not received the edict of abdication.
If it really is to benefit the people, it is the ROC that should collapse the PRC and retake the mainland, given our higher quality of life and freedoms, freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly, internet, etc, but we are not even seeking to do that anymore. The lesser of the two wants to take over, but they do not deserve to, nor are they qualified.
It was the PRC that declared independence from our government, not the other way around. At the end of the day, regardless of anyone's narratives, it's one independent entity, the PRC, that wants to invade/annex another independent entity, the ROC. A territory they have never governed or held in any century, decade, year, month, week, day, hour, minute, or second in history, more importantly, they do not have the consent of the people. They seek political rape and they need to learn that that is unethical and should cease their desires to conquer.
And Qing wasn't even Chinese. They were Manchurians
@@seoul_9584 Yup.
@@danzwku your inability to comprehend and to grasp reality are the problems. Most countries don’t view China as a foreign invader as stated by you. Thus the moment Taiwan declares independence, China will invade and the world will not treat it as an injustice like Russia invading Ukraine. You can whine all you want about the negatives of China’s Communist government or extol the virtues of ‘democratic Taiwan’ or cite history from eons ago but the reality is you cross the redline, you bear the consequences … alone.
The US has been pitting Taiwan against mainland China all the time. It is never about democracy or freefom.
They tell you the CCP wants it unified. The fact is that most ordinary Chinese wants it unified. No political party can survive if it surrenders Taiwan.
The separatists have reshaped the identity of Taiwan.
The US says one China while sending endless weapons and military personnel to Taiwan. Ridiculous.
It is about democracy or freefom！Taiwan is a democratic country, so Taiwanese people do not want to be ruled by China.
@user-oq1oc4qx4p I especially love your last paragraph. It sounds so persuasive. Can you please detach the Taiwanese from the Chinese? While doing this, please ensure that you are consistent with your version of democracy.
I also love your story about Formosa.
@user-oq1oc4qx4p Well, you should have gone further into history.
Let me give you more support. If we go back to history, there were hundreds of countries or kingdoms all across China.
If we go back to history, North America had so many great countries and tribal nations.
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@user-oq1oc4qx4p Good move. Do you know the Chinese legend about the origin of Japan?
I am quite conscious of Taiwan's colonial mindset towards Japan and the United States.
@user-oq1oc4qx4p Sufficient or insufficient, I would never consider it reasonable to annex Japan into China.
It is shocking to learn the Japanese are going to wage a war against China if China has a war to unify Taiwan once the Taiwan separatists declare their independence or similar situations emerge.
Message for the Taiwanese: The only reason why the US supports Taiwan's independence from the People's Republic of China is because it wants to maintain US imperialism forever. If the US really believed in a nation's right to self-determination, why doesn't the US support Puerto Rico's independence? On the contrary, the US militarily invaded Puerto Rico 125 years ago to make her its colony. The US has refused to comply with 42 United Nations resolutions asking it to immediately return Puerto Rico's sovereignty to the Puerto Ricans. It is important to mention that by doing so, the US is committing a crime against humanity. The US today is unconditionally supporting the artificial colonial settler state of Israel to commit genocide against the Palestinians in their own homeland of Palestine. Do real democracies commit genocide? The US committed genocide against the indigenous people of America in order to establish its own artificial colonial settler state in America. If the US were a democracy, would it have 38 million Americans living in poverty today, while 8 of the 10 richest men in the world are US citizens? China, on the other hand, has already eradicated her poverty, despite having 4 times the US' population! And if the US were a democracy, why are only 40% of its citizens satisfied with our government, while 90% of Chinese are satisfied with theirs? Don't vote to end up like Ukraine!
And all this means little to taiwan. The taiwanese people still dont want to be ruled by a authoritsrian china. And they will defend themself.
The reason for america to help them doesnt matter for them
@@sH-ed5yfThat's because the medias in in Taiwan and the west keep telling the fake propaganda about PRC to the local people. You are also stupid and blind to fully accept the fake western propaganda. You call PRC "authoritarian" but you know nothing about how people living in PRC.
@@sH-ed5yf They are unwilling just because of the ROC authorities' continuous anti-communist propaganda and persecution against the left for more than 70 years. When we overthrow this reactionary authority and allow the people of Taiwan to be the masters of our own country like the people of the mainland, they will be willing.
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Incorrect statement on the first sentence,
Thank you for this unbiased presentation.
Taiwan 🇹🇼 is a country as far as I am concerned
Taiwan China 🇨🇳 already 😅
@@tomsunuwar6940 nope Taiwan has nothing to do with China period.
@@erikyoung3196 who told you your father idiot lol 😏🤨😂😤
Ya people calling Taiwan The Republic of China must be Russian disinformation
LoL and your definition of a nation is?? California can governs itself too, is cali a nation?
Taiwan is an island province of China. Both the ROC and PRC constitutions recognize this fact. furthermore, the ROC actually claims greater territory than the PRC. The USA has no jurisdiction in Taiwan and has nothing to say about how the disputes are settled and reunification is accomplished. Edit: The one fact not mentioned is the ROC Constitution claims sovereignty for all of China and clearly states it can only be change by a constitutional amendment. Neither maker party has the congressional votes to change that.
China did not split in two. No no no. Taiwan remains a Prefecture of the PRC after 1949. A renegade KMT continued the civil war from the Prefecture of the PRC. Nothing has changed. Taiwan as a territory remains part of the PRC. Strategic ambiguity is America speaking with forked tongue.
Now tell me when the PRC ever had control over Taiwan? Stupid
Taiwan is an independent country that does not belong to China
Just the former dynasty, kid😂
The PRC's constitution did not include Taiwan until 1978. Because the PRC was founded in 1949, by the time Taiwan still belonged to Japan in law.
Yup, they are just rebels occupying the province of taiwan.
Taiwan is a world flashpoint is just like Ukraine and Gaza, they are the making of the world superpower (singular). Taiwan had been, still is and will be forever an inalienable part of Greater China, who is to dispute that? Taiwan’s legitimacy doesn’t hinge on the US, not the Taiwan presldemtial election but the whole Chinese people, both domestic and foreign based.
No doubt, China will defend Taiwan against foreign interference in the same way as they did during the Korean War. It’s ironic that, for 70 odd years cross straits have enjoyed relative peace until recently when the US wanted to arrest the rise of China as an economic power, accusing China of everything from Hong Kong, Xinjang, Covid origins to SC Sea. Why?
China will defend .....eh Taiwan doesnt want to be defended by China, u can not force ur help upon somebody.
make clear that China will defend the island ,not the people in the island.
@@licliff4360 exactly, Taiwan doesn’t only belong to Taiwanese alone it belongs to the whole 1.4 billion plus Chinese peoples. Taiwan doesn’t have sovereignty by itself. Its legitimacy derives from the sovereignty of the Greater China.
Why we can't stay calm and quiet without living war!
中華民國，一個是中國也不是，是台灣也不是的國家
Great summary of the situation ! I've been living in Taiwan for almost 15 years and have always been lamenting how poorly western medias misportrayed Taiwan's history situation. It's great to see an accurate one for a change.
2:10 framing that the ROC mostly got international recognition simply because of the US? The ROC was a founding member of the UN in 1945.
Official diplomatic recognition and relations are not solely based on reality, merits, or principles, they are heavily influenced, if not sometimes completely dictated by money, power, strategy, and leverage. Anyone who doesn't understand this or pretends not to completely loses credibility.
The PRC was also not recognized in the UN from 1949 (when they declared independence from us, not the other way around) to 1971, does that mean they weren't a country during this period?
If North Korea had the leverage to convince the UN, international organizations and most countries around the world that South Korea wasn't a country, would that mean that South Korea wasn't a country?
China has territory disputes with Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, Philippines, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, Bhutan, Nepal, Tibet, Brunei. These are all the countries in which China claims territory, you don't need to be a genius to figure this one out.
For the first time all countries should establish dominance in their own country
The Taiwan issue is China's internal affairs, and the United States' interference in the politics of other countries is entirely out of their own strategic considerations and not really for so-called justice. They can even use a bag of laundry detergent as an excuse to start a war, as long as it helps them maintain global dominance. The Taiwan issue is just an excuse to contain China, even though China has made many efforts to regain Taiwan peacefully over the decades, such as ceding benefits to Taiwan through ECFA for decades. However, the United States continues to provoke disputes out of its own interests, trying to trigger a real war to weaken China.
I would also like to add one more point: Don’t think Taiwan is too innocent. When Taiwan was first separated from China in 1949, Taiwan had a seat in the United Nations and had better economic, military and Western support. They could have declared independence at that time, and China had no ability to stop it at that time. But why didn't this happen? The fact is that Taiwan identifies as one country with China, and its goal is to counterattack the mainland and regain control of China. When it was stronger, it kept sending military planes to threaten the mainland. But now, when it was weaker, it began to seek independence, shouting about so-called peace. In other words, Taiwan essentially identifies with the mainland as the same country. The Taiwan issue is actually China's internal affairs. The current situation is completely unilaterally shaped by the United States for its own benefit. As the Taiwanese government changes textbooks and demonizes China, a new generation of young people gradually loses their understanding of history and culture, making peaceful reunification increasingly difficult.
China cannot be trusted.
They promised basic freedome and civil rights in Hong Kong only to seize them shortly after
Taiwan is Taiwan! China is China! Why is Taiwan an internal affair of China? Taiwan has its own military, its own people, and its own laws. Chinese cannot go to Taiwan without a visa. Taiwanese have never spoken to the Chinese government about taxes. Every Taiwanese knows that China is going to invade and occupy their homeland.
What motivates the US to care about the Taiwanese people? Same old playbook that applied to all the wars that the US has created it in the last 40 years Divine and conquest
While carrying out this task's more than 30 Years spending billions of dollars on taxpayer to establish a military base that surrounds China. The objective is to stop China's economic growth from growing exponentially. Being second to non-white races is a source of fear and panic. China is on course to regain its status as a stronger and powerful nation than it was 500 years ago, when Europeans first discovered China.
"A nation that forgets its past has no future" " The more you know about the past, the better perpared you're for the future.
You have such a perfect voice
You people should understand that we can’t live without our USA 🇺🇸
Im a Chinese student. I studied in Taiwan for the third year of my uni last year. I wanna talk about what I have experienced. Taiwan's cultural subjectivity has been severely destroyed. Most people think that Westernization is modernization，and taiwan can only enter modern society through Westernization. In many parades, the slogans will be "aligned with Western countries". young people tend to live in a way that advocates neoliberalism，it is indeed a pursuit themselves, but its a kind of pursuit themselves in a conformity way，China has never walked out of self-criticism and binary opposition too， I believe that every Chinese student who first time downloads vpn will be shocked, reflect and take on their own responsibilities. China has never walked out of the profound internalization of the imperial structure，and I will never laugh at it, nor will I betray it，it sounds conservative，but very citizen has the responsibility to obtain national subjectivity
That is a piece of misinformation right there.
Taiwan is not caught in the middle of conflict between US and China .
It is the US who is caught between the conflict of China and Taiwan. And US can opt to help or not to help Taiwan in an unlikely event. So NO, Taiwan is not in the middle of US-China conflict.
When is this program aired on aljazeera
Taiwanese are forced to say "maintain status quote". China keeps saying Taiwan's independence means immediately wiping out all population on the island.
in the past taiwannese said attack china mainland and ccp said defend
May I correct you that at 4:27,you said “USA acknowledged Taiwan is part of china “, that is not true. USA has never said that (i challenge you to prove me wrong). What USA has said was “one china policy “, which is the so called “strategic ambiguity “. To the PRC, it means ROC belongs to PRC. To the ROC, it means PRC belongs to ROC. As ridiculous as it sounds, it was the USA position.
corporatist oligarchy.
U$A is not a democracy it's a corporate autocracy ruled by the big corporates.
Global interests are not about good will between people rather about where profits are to be made.
Profits feed the world 😊 I like profits too for my business, who doesn't.
@@WaveRider1989 But U$A say :
" I come to HELP you" 😆
Horror movie title
@@WaveRider1989 That's fine if you are doing all that just for profit. But the problem is instead of telling those countries straight that "Hey, I here to make money, to suck you blood." They will say "I'm the savior. I'm here to save you, to help you. I'm here to bring you demo-crazy!" That's disgusting.
No One Can stop Unification Of Taiwan With China ..
China got Taiwan back in 1945 after its victory on Japan. China was reunified then.
Except the KMT was in power then. By your logic, shouldnt the KMT claim mainland China?
Yes it should, and it still does. That claim is in the ROC constitution
@@ZX235w3 You are exactly right, brother! KMT should claim mainland China (if they can) because it is in the ROC constitution. That's exactly the logic. They can do it either peacefully or continue with the civil war. Independence is not an option all along because it is not in their constitution. It is illegal to declare independence. It's like Biden can't just sign a law tomorrow to ban all the guns in US cause carrying guns is a giving right by the US constitution, correct? If he sign that law tomorrow, he'll be breaking the law, wouldn't he? Same logic here. So ROC can't declare independence. Their constitutional goal is to reunify with the mainland.
government is not reunified
Not now, Taiwanese simply don't want to be associated with the Long Dead Gone Soviet had left a Sickle-Hammer Party CCP in China. Chinese take the humiliation their pride, since they don't know that they had lost their own country. 5 dirty stars flag is nothing without Sickle-Hammer flags backing. The middle class people of the 5 dirty stars flag are selling their assets for seeking asylums in the US. Up to date since 2022 55,000. Still going.
Happy to see the iconic walk-to-the-chair intro again. It's been a while.
The US does not acknowledge that Taiwan is part of China. It merely acknowledges that Beijing considers Taiwan a part of China. This does not mean they accept or agree with Beijing's position.
Taipei or Taiwan it’s China 🇨🇳 already
Read US’ “One China Policy” please…
So why doesn’t the United States have an embassy in Taiwan? 95% of the UN member states only recognize the PRC, The United States can continue to play this kind of word game, but don’t forget the reality. When the CCP only recognized North Korea and North Vietnam, the CCP captured Seoul, and the Viet Cong captured Saigon. Even if the United States recognized South Korea and South Vietnam, the United States would force the CCP to use force. If China is reunified, the United States will not get a pro-American China.
@@tomsunuwar6940mainlanders have to apply for visa when visiting Taiwan.
@@heinzlockigehaar First, apply for a travel permit to and from Taiwan from the local police station, and then take this permit to the Taiwan Ministry of the Interior to apply for a endorsement to enter Taiwan. NOT VISA, Visa is issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
America needs to just stay out of this
I think you miss talking about the micro chip perspective in this topic. Taiwan is and is going to stay the biggest manufacturing country of the sophisticated micro chips for the time being making it a very important geo political topic.
Yes😢
What is the name of the hostess? It never turns up.
Taiwan is desperate to be the new Ukraine
Let them have it
Start Here ❣️❣️❣️
If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialism, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow it.” ~ Deng Xiaoping speech at the United Nations, April 10, 1974
The United States' sales of weapons to Taiwan are actually interference in China's internal affairs and cause obstacles and damage to China's peaceful reunification. China's tolerance has limits.~, Deng Xiaoping 1981
Funny Deng Xiaoping said that when he was the one that ordered the Tiananmen Square massacre
That is the real question. Why does the US feel it is entitled to have its opinion on every fking dispute in the world??
The US do not agree that Taiwan is part of China. They acknowledge that the PRC thinks this is the case, but withhold agreement. The US (and most other countries) have a policy (not a principle) that seeks to prevent a CCP tantrum, but not more than this.
BS
@@waynelil I’m sorry your feelings are hurt by reality
China doesn't need the rogue US regime approval on anything about its province of Taiwan.Taiwan has for time immemorial been China's province and territory,both history,UN and municipal law proves this without any fuss!
I am a young person in Taiwan. We clearly know that we are Taiwanese, not Taiwanese. Therefore, in various world competitions, even if we are officially prohibited from raising the Taiwan flag, we will still shout loudly: Taiwan, come on ! 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
To be more specific, it is Republic of China in Taiwan. 🇹🇼
Accoding to The Constitution of The Republic of China (1947):
Article 4.
The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing
national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the
National Assembly.
In 1947, the terriory of ROC included Mainland China and Taiwan, rathan than PRC because PRC was establised in 1949.
However, the National Assembly in Taiwan was disbaned in 2005. Therefore, there is no way to alter the territory in Article 4. Unless they alter the Constitution Article 4. and that is almost imposible to alter the Constitution.
This is the story about terriory between Taiwan and Mainland China.
concise and factual on history. nice video
ALLAHU AKBAR Taiwan is better to be with ur love one, peaceful election and avoids war, don't allow the warmonger to push u too war
This is not Taiwan-China dispute, this is West-China dispute over Taiwan.
It is a dispute over self-rule. Taiwanese people don't want to be ruled by China, simple as that.
Saying that Taiwan is part of China is like saying North America is part of the UK.
Both sides agreed to separate. Just like Ukraine and Russia agreed in 1991 to go their separate ways. If Taiwan wants to become a sovereign country they have to negotiate with mainland China to end the Chinese Civil War and both sides agree to go their separate ways.
I'm curious about the role of South Korea and Japan in the China-Taiwan conflict. They are at least stronger than Taiwan, but much weaker than China.
China will let North Korea to deter South Korea and let Russia to deter Japan. They will not have time to take care of Taiwan.
We Chinese don’t care what unfriendly small countries like Japan and South Korea think. This is an internal matter for us Han people.
These two countries have little stance, stand on the side of the strong (USA), and are ready to switch sides at any time
This drama is like when a bully(U$A) hasn’t got the balls to pick on you(China) so he goes after to exploit your(Taiwan) little sister instead.
This is called complicated geopolitics.
Taiwan independent
Its already part of china.
@@ImtiazAkand-zm7jq It will never be part of China😂😂😂
@@dhruv7523-o1e pardon? as from now, Taiwan island still part of China...
@@leelin9783 Nope. Keep saying what you want, it doesn't matter. Gonna Cry😂😂😂
@@dhruv7523-o1e keep saying what you want, it doesn't matter Taiwan island is always part of China.
This is a great way to balance my media from the US. I definitely get more nuanced details here and from another's perspective.
The voice of unite in Taiwan island has been covered...those people recognized themself as Chinese because they recognise Republic of China as thier nationality.
Nah I identify Taiwanese as nationality.
Chinese is more like the ethnicity.
Different things
@@Sp3ll633 there is no country called Taiwan, their official name is Republic of China...ROC controlled Taiwan, Ma Zhu, Jin Men and Peng Hu, total 4 islands.
@@leelin9783 Taiwan is independent mate. Try invade it with your conscripts 😂😂😂
@@dhruv7523-o1e don't you know PRC warplanes and battleships already went to Taiwan island so many times? even now PRC warplanes patrol on Taiwan island few times a week, so what you going to do? I dont think there is any problem on patroling on own territory.
@@dhruv7523-o1e So Indian military is going to do called “defend” ROC?
What democracy at all costs! Not imperialism, not communism. Peace is possible.
Putin must be held accountable for orchestrating this horrific dispute
hhhhhhhhh blaming others a usual
If that's a joke, it surely lightened my day.
Hahaha, that's a good one. They just need to find an excuse instead of facing facts. The fact is China is technically still in a Civil War from 1945 till now, PRC in mainland vs ROC in Taiwan, which might the easiest way to explain the situation --- Still in Civil War technically, truce but not end because no peace agreement has ever been signed.
blame the dog.... wtf ever... Putin sucks and American foreign policy suck... this is a imperialist struggle that the working class will pay for... We are getting called out by all other capitalist nations....they want a piece too... the yankee needs to change course or lose it all....this would require skill which ameri-cia has lacked for quite sometime.
Ayy, Lev Nachman, he’s my professor for political science at NCCU. The world needs more professors like him!
It doesn't matter how many times the Chinese regime repeats the *lies,*
or how *angry* it pretends to be,
- Taiwan 🇹🇼 is still an independent country.
Taiwan never ever been independent whole world 🌍 knows that’s Taiwan China 🇨🇳 not country,who told u this nonsense ridiculous your father ,joker lol 😆
Do you have a seat in UN ?
@@papachen5828Mainlanders Chinese have to apply for visa before visiting Taiwan.
@@heinzlockigehaar we need sort of this paper before visiting HONG KONG & MACAO too .
Status quo can neither be permanent or it is a solution.
It is the U$A changing it
Mainland China is react to the change
China 🇨🇳 needs to play by the rules and respect human rights.
Xi Jinping will be held accountable for any Chinese interference into Taiwan's elections.
You ridiculous idiot lol 😆
Posted on 10th January 2023.
Why you don't tell the truth , that every Taiwanese knew?
It is the U$A sold Taiwan KMT for mainland money in 1979.
Japan surrendered sovereignty over Taiwan in the Treaty of San Francisco (1952). Neither ROC nor PRC were a part of the treaty. The official stance of those who are a part of the treaty (US, Japan, UK, etc.) is that the sovereignty status of Taiwan is not yet determined.
In Chiang Kai-shek's own diary he admitted that ROC does not have sovereignty over Taiwan. ROC Minister of Foreign Affairs George Kung-ch'ao Yeh also said the same after signing the Taipei Treaty with Japan.
Taiwan is an unclaimed island under custody by the combined Allied Force, and ROC is a government in exile currently residing on it.
When they surrendered, shouldn't the island just be returned to the previous rightful owner by default, just like all other territories in Mainland China that Japan occupied?
Even if (and I mean even if) it was "unclaimed" as you said, it was claimed by Republic of China when KMT fled the mainland and set it's capital in Taipei.
The unclaimed theory just doesn't hold and fall apart.
@@rog4464 The Manchurian Qing Dynasty ended. The idea of a Chinese nation state was invented by Liang Qichao in 1900 for the purpose of revolting against the Manchurian empire. They are not the same, so China is not the "previous owner" of Taiwan. Funny thing, the Manchurians thought Taiwan belonged to Japan since ancient times.
If China want to claim Qing Dynasty assets they should firstly pay the Qing Dynasty debts owed, including the $1.6 trillion Qing Dynasty bonds plus interests.
@@caenix I think you are trying to rewrite history and live in your own reality.
If you think the Qing Manchurian thought that Taiwan belonged to Japan, just google “qing map” and educate yourself.
And you are like saying that France is not France after the revolution, and it doesn’t own what France owned.
The reasoning of the separatists is absurd. Just keep coming up with strange and jaw-dropping excuses.
@@rog4464 Rewriting history is CCP's forte. Nothing ever happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989 right?
@@caenix Even tank man crushed was fake.
Finally somebody explain clearly is Taiwan 🇹🇼 a country or is not 🙏.
Fake news! Taiwan Is Not self governed, it's governed by ROC. Since 1949, the ROC has continued to exercise effective jurisdiction over the main island of Taiwan and a number of outlying islands, leaving Taiwan and China each under the rule of a different government.
Not true on what she said. Japan never returned Taiwan to China. Japan renounced its claim of Taiwan per the 1951 Treaty of Peace with Japan. Japan gave USA the administrative authority to the islands that it renounced. If a country has some legitimate claim to Taiwan, it would be USA.
😂😂mad man, is the US in Asia? Or you are one of the IMPERIALISTS still worshipping the decomposition of the US homosexual regime!😂😂😂
I’m a Taiwanese, Taiwan is part of China for sure!👍🏻
Technically Taiwan is part of China, it's the same people who live there.
Well done. Great stuff. With PRC mainland ecomony issues, tensions could increase in this decade. The PRC seems to have more internal reasons for raising the stakes over the issue than the ROC has. Both sides lose in a conflict and the Sino-US regional superpower war looms BIG! Many thanx. Milan
The chair is back---good stuff
Superb
I like your presentation
china hopes taiwan stays status quo. The danger is some US and Taiwan politicians tend to provoke to get more votes, while Chinese politicians don’t need that in the first place due to different political system.
It's none of that. Very simple: Chinese cannot rise up in the world with internal political divide such as Taiwan-Mainland conflict, and white men are trying to stop Chinese from rise up. So, who have most determinations?
Good video, but it missed the point of “why” the west is strategically interested in Taiwan. The answer is TSMC. Almost all global small scale semiconductor manufacturing is in Taiwan. We had a small taste of semiconductor supply chain issues during COVID related to availability of new cars. With recent advances in AI this becomes even more critical to ensure Taiwan is stable in the short term and small scale semiconductor manufacturing gets diversified into the west - the CHIPS act.
TSMC is never the answer. It's just the excuse of the western politicians. The real answer is always to suppress the rise of China.
This is just propaganda from the United States, TSMC is not important to both China and the United States. The purpose of the United States doing this is to provoke a war between China and Taiwan, and then use this reason to make Western countries support Taiwan. This is exactly the same as what the United States did in Ukraine
PRC has had war, direct or indirect, with the us in Korea and Vietnam. US was telling to the world that it didn’t lose while the wars ended with the fact that it didn’t win either. Can’t imagine another war between them, with the strength of China today.
Dude you have no clue 🤡 you can’t compare United state with China….. the different is clear get that into your brain 🤡