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Yeah. Tommy Lee was pretty damn good in that. The problem is he’s pretty much that guy in all his movies. No doubt Val deserved that Oscar, but it seems Hollywood didn’t look favorably on this movie.
I'd have given it to Pete Postelthwaite for his role as Giuseppe in In The Name Of The Father but that year had some superb performances in the category with Leo DiCaprio, John Malcovich and Ralph Fiennes along with Jones and Kilmer also nominated.
@@MovieJoob The three (wives) of the Earp brothers were actually prostitutes that they had shacked up with. They were called married because it was actually illegal to do that during that time period. Therefore they would call them common law married.
Val Kilmer really stole the show with this role. Doc Holiday was a real historical person and it is reported that his last words were like in the movie. He looked at his feet and said "This is funny" This is because he lived a very dangerous life and people like that usually died with their boots on. However he was able to beat the odds and died peacefully in his bed with his shoes off.
31:10 "Why do I want to cry?" Because you're human! Those few short lines touch everyone who watches this movie. "Wyatt Earp is my friend." "Hell, I got lots of friends." "I don't." It's an honest look into Doc's life, beautifully delivered by Val Kilmer. His lifestyle has left him with few people able to get close to him and see beyond his sarcastic and cynical attitudes. Wyatt was a rare one that Doc respected deeply and who showed Doc that same respect. We all feel for Doc, because at this moment he shows us how vulnerable, sad, and lonely he can be. So glad you watched this one, this is the best Western of all time!
When Doc described Ringo, it was from the fact that he was given TB by his mom when was young. So Doc hated that he was born. However, he actually was a dentist, hence the nickname Doc. Wyatt went to live in Los Angeles and was a consultant for many Western movies in the day. He made friends with an up and coming actor named Marion Morrison, best known as John Wayne or the Duke. Wayne patterned his cowboy characters after Wyatt Earp.
Doc - "Wyatt Earp is my friend." "Hell, I've got lots of friends." Doc - "I don't." Very simple lines, but so well-delivered that they're packed with meaning. Such a great movie!
YESS!! Sometimes big monologues aren't needed to express the character deeply. A simple impactful set of lines can utterly deepen a character perfectly!!
As you have probably gathered by now,, Wyatt Earp, Morgan Earp, Virgil Earp and their families, Doc Holliday, and Ike Clanton and the Cowboys gang were actual, real-life historical figures in the Wild West. The shootout near the OK corral in Tombstone actually took place largely as portrayed, with Wyatt being the only participant who was not killed or wounded in the gunfight. The incident in which Doc and the Earps were caught in the crossfire ambush at the river, during which Wyatt Earp waded out into the water amidst a hail of bullets to confront Curly Bill, also really happened. Doc Holliday’s illness made him reckless, careless with his life. His mindset was that it would be better to die in a quick, clean gunfight than to suffer a long lingering death due to tuberculosis. His performance as Doc Holliday is Val Kilmer’s best role and greatest performance. (Laudanum is a mixture of opium and alcohol, and Wyatt's common-law wife was addicted to it, which led to her death from an overdose.)
Yes I have since gathered and I feel bad that I had no idea about these people prior but now I'm so fascinated by them!! This film was utterly incredible and Val as Doc was just perfection I am so impressed!!
@@MovieJoob they were using medicines that actually worked. :) ... the downside is that you can't trust the public with medicines that work. They'll get addicted and society breaks down... so instead you give them medicines that kind of mask symptoms while also causing several side effects that require you to give them more medications of low efficacy that cause more side effects, etc, ad infinitum in a recursive loop of endless profit for the pharmaceutical industry,.
The film's portrayal of the shootout at the Okay Corral is pretty accurate... It's true that Wyatt (and Ike) were not killed or wounded... In the movie Doc was not wounded... In the actual events Doc was grazed by a bullet near his pistol pocket. Now in regards to the killing of Curly Bill... The movie's a little more distant from the truth... Wyatt and his group were *not* ambushed or surrounded... They stumbled on the cowboys (who were cooking a meal) neither the cowboys nor Wyatt's group, were expecting to run into the other group... In that shootout. Wyatt's coat was shot through on both sides... His saddle horn was shot *and* he was hit in the boot heel... But somehow; through all the years and all the gunfights... He never actually got shot... Pretty amazing really. From wikipedia: On March 24, 1882, the Earp party was expecting to meet Charlie Smith at Iron Springs (later Mescal Springs), in the Whetstone Mountains. Smith was bringing cash from Tombstone about 20 miles (32 km) to the east to help pay posse expenses. As they surmounted the edge of a wash near the springs, they stumbled upon Brocius, Pony Diehl, Johnny Barnes, Frank Patterson, Milt Hicks, Bill Hicks, Bill Johnson, Ed Lyle, and Johnny Lyle, cooking a meal alongside the spring. According to Wyatt Earp - and an anonymous report to The Tombstone Epitaph- he was in the lead of the posse when they suddenly came upon the Cowboys' camp at the springs from less than 30 feet (9m) behind an embankment. The Cowboys began firing just as Earp dismounted, and thought for a moment they had shot him, but had hit his saddle horn instead. Texas Jack Vermillion, whose horse was killed, remained cool under fire and stuck close to Wyatt during the fight. Doc, Johnson, and McMaster fired their weapons and sought cover. Warren Earp was away on an errand at the time. Eighteen months prior, Wyatt Earp had protected Brocius against a mob ready to lynch him for killing Town Marshal Fred White, and then provided testimony that helped spare him from a murder conviction. Now Brocius fired at Earp with his shotgun from about 50 feet (15 m), but missed. Earp returned fire over his horse using a 22-inch, 10-gauge shotgun. He killed Brocius with a load of buckshot to the stomach, nearly cutting him in half. Brocius fell into the water at the edge of the spring. The Cowboys fired a number of shots at the Earp party, but the lawmen's fire was so intense that those Cowboys who could, left. Earp's long coat was punctured by bullets on both sides. Another bullet struck his boot heel and his saddle horn was hit, as well, burning the saddle hide and narrowly missing Wyatt. Firing his pistol, Earp shot Johnny Barnes in the chest and Milt Hicks in the arm. Vermillion tried to retrieve his rifle wedged in the scabbard under his fallen horse, exposing himself to the Cowboys' gunfire. Doc Holliday helped him gain cover. Earp had trouble remounting his horse due to a cartridge belt that had slipped down his legs. He was finally able to get on his horse and retreat. McMaster was grazed by a bullet that cut through the straps of his field glasses. Earp biographer John Flood wrote that The Cowboys buried Brocius' body on the nearby ranch of Frank Patterson near the Babocomari River. This is close to the original McLaury ranch site about 5 miles (8 km) west of Fairbank (before the McLaurys moved to the Sulphur Springs Valley in late 1880). Brocius's grave site has never been identified.
drewf8619 How the hell does one miss with a shotgun from 50 feet away?! Brocius must have panicked and pulled the trigger before he’d raised his gun. It’s the only explanation.
Doc is so endearing because Val Kilmer made this film his magnum opus. Such an incredible performance by him! Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for another awesome reaction!
Think it's one of the greatest Oscar mistakes that Val Kilmer was never nominated, let alone won. It's one of the best and most memorable performances of all time
I am impressed. First reactor I’ve seen to pick up on almost all the nuances within this film. Special props for picking up on the meaning of Doc’s line “Revenge…for being born”. This is, aside from Lord of the Rings, my most favorite film of all time ☺️
I'm so bloody impressed with this film! And omg yes LoTR films are my favourite of all time! I'm so ashamed at how long i lived my life never seeing them but at least that meant I got to experience it on this channel with everyone!!
There is one VERY subtle nuance that few see... in the seen where 'Turkey Creek' Jack Johnson (Buck Taylor) is kneeling making coffee.... He looks at Doc and says 'I have lots of friends.' That could have been a blowoff line, but if you go back and look closely at the medallion he has around his neck... it is the Freemason Square and Compasses... so that was a slight nod to the Fraternity and those friendships... and Buck Taylor is in real life a mason as well...
Wyatt wasn’t married to Maddie. If you remember Doc asked Wyatt if he considered himself a married man and he said “pretty much”. They were just living together.
Still cheating, but given her drug addiction, Wyatt was right to be looking for the exit door. He should have just gone through it first before moving onto the next woman, but given that these were real human beings and not gods, they made real human mistakes.
@@Prodigal1 Once he stated she was his wife they were married in the eyes of the law (in most jurisdictions). Biblically "Shacking Up" isn't a sin, it's a marriage.
@@gk5891 wrong! No such thing as Biblically shacking up! Common law marriage doesn’t happen because you call someone your wife, which BTW Wyatt didn’t. Doc asked him if he considered himself to be a married man forsaking all others? Wyatt replied “Ya, pretty much!” I know of no denomination accepting two people not legally married, without a marriage certificate and just verbally claiming to be, as. married.
@11:50... My grandfather is an old Western/ Gun guy. While watching this movie with him, he pointed out how Johnny Ringo moves his head and body in to the direction where he flips his gun. "Doc saw it too." If you look at Doc's eyes, you can see him studying Johnny's gun speed and body movement. When Johnny finished flipping his gun, that's when Doc mimicked him but in a slower silly pace.
I have been to the Bird Cage Theater in Tombstone. The ceiling has over 100 bullet holes. While the film makes it look like Virgil and Morgan were shot on the same evening. It was actually three months apart. Also, Doc actually died 6 years after Wyatt Earp and his immortals took their vengeance ride. The only thing in this film that is not real is, the killer of Johnny Ringo wasn't Doc. The killer was unknown.
@@MovieJoob Bullets, especially back then, don't really have the force to go up through the ceiling and then back down through the roof, unless it was fired 100% straight up and down (and even then, a good wind might alter its course, as would hitting the roof in the first place). That doesn't make them safe, but what most likely happened was bullets going through the ceiling then coming down to land on the roof. I don't know if the roof is flat or peaked, but if flat, they probably just stayed up there unless they were cleaned. Bullet trajectories and ballistics is a fascinating, complicated subject.
Cool reaction, the reason Doc said it was funny looking at his bare feet was that he always thought he'd "die with his boots on". In other words, gunfighting.
Loved the reaction idk if anyones said anything about it but the Landowner with the big mustache that takes in Doc when he's less sick than he seems is Charlton Heston Oscar Winning actor major star in the 50s/60s
This is why I find reaction videos compelling; Joob immediately noticed the pale horse and she who rode it, after playing "Lady Satan", and Hell certainly followed. I've been watching this film for decades and just thought it was a cool visual. WELL I'LL BE GAWD DAYMED
The old friendly Marshall is Harry Carrey Jr., who appeared in many classic westerns, many starring John Waynd and directed by John Ford. The Searchers especially, which ends with a tribute to his father, who also starred in may great westerns, including Red River. Keep up the western binge. I'm loving it.
I’m happy that you’re enjoying the westerns you’ve seen so far. What’s great about Tombstone is how historically accurate it is considering that it’s a Hollywood movie. In fact Wyatt was probably more of a badass in real life than even portrayed in the movie. Interesting fact: John Wayne actually knew Wyatt Earp. Earp acted as a consultant for early movie studios before his death when a very young Wayne worked there doing odd jobs. They would occasionally eat lunch together in the studio commissary. It is said that John Wayne used Earp as inspiration for his personality in many of his performances. Which leads me to my recommendation. John Wayne, of course. There are soooo many, but for your first I would recommend The Cowboys. I think you’ll love it.
Hey there! I love your channel! Since you seem to be on a bit of a western kick, I've got three recommendations for you. The first is an old classic and both my AND STEPHEN SPIELBERG'S favorite western: *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* which is a western but also so much more. The other two are modern remakes which are better than their originals: *True Grit* by the Coen Brothers and *3:10** To Yuma* by James Mangold. *True Grit* is an especially awesome film and in addition to great performances by Jeff Bridges and Matt Damon it is also Hailee Steinfeld's first film and she is terrific in it. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for these great suggestions! I am screenshotting this comment for ones to watch next as I am definitely on a Western kick and loving it!!
36:27 Maybe someone already explained this, but back then it was common to die with your boots on, maybe from getting killed by someone or something. Doc didn't expect he'd ever die in a bed, but rather outside, I guess. That's why he was surprised he was dying in bed, with his boots off.
There’s a 1980s movie called The Private Eyes starting my two favorite comedians Don Knotts and Tim Conway. It doesn’t get a ton of attention but it is by far one of my favorite comedies ever. If you are interested in reacting to it that’d be cool but if not that’s perfectly okay too. Thanks for the video! Tombstone is a fantastic movie
What soooooo many fail to notice is that the actor playing Ringo is the same man who played Reese in the first Terminator movie. Then there is the amazing narration by a Hollywood ICON Robert Mitchum, an actor mostly known for tough guy/bad guy characters (and funny enough close friends with Jimmy Stewart, notorious nice guy in film.) Also, thanks for leaving the line "I don't" in your reaction. As a man getting older, that is one of the lines in movies that tears e up every time.
I accidently found Wyatt and Josephine"s first owned house, in Vidal, California. A few months later, visited Doc Holliday's grave, in Glenwood Springs, Colorado. Were both a humbling experience.
Doc stole the show in every scene he was in. Really loved this film. Thanks for the reaction. BTW, many people in the west were common law spouses at that time.
This movie is considered a western but takes place in Australia "Quigley Down Under" worth a watch. A list of my Cint Eastwood westerns "Outlaw Josey Wales" "Pale Rider" "High Plains Drifter" to name a few. Holiday was a dentist, not a MD. God Bless You two times. The Chinese were working on the railroads. Great movie and Great Reaction.
@@MovieJoob You're welcome! The theatrical cut (181 minutes) is the director's cut. The Extended Cut was not officially sanctioned by director and star Kevin Costner, and it damages the film's pacing.
@@MovieJoob Absolutely agree. "Dances With Wolves" staring Kevin Costner, probably one of his best films, won multiple best picture awards. And an absolutely stunning movie. If you can find the theatrical version, it adds about 30 more minutes but is worth it imo. Graham Greene's best role as well. He's just amazing in it.
This is a true story. It has been the subject of number of movies and TV episodes. The shootout at the OK Corral is legendary. Another movie I recommend, which focuses on Wyatt Earp (played by Kevin Costner) is the very excellent cinematic work by the same name: Wyatt Earp (1994). You should react to it.
This film is more historically accurate than films about these kinds of events tend to be. They took some liberties here and there with the sequence of events, but for the most part, it's a pretty good representation of what happened. The portrayal of Doc was just a little inflation of the reality. He was educated, and known to be very smart. Thin and sickly, but very proficient at cards, and with a pistol.
At the time Wyatt Earp was arriving in Tombstone, Ned Kelly was doing his thing in Australia. Wyatt arrived in tombstone in 1879 Ned was hanged in 1880
@@MovieJoobYeah, Ned Kelly was quite the character himself. There is a movie that came out that was good called "Ned Kelly" it has Heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom in it
Jade, your comments on the cousin thing. I'll tell you what my grandmother told me when I was a child. Land was an extremely valuable commodity in the 1800's and in order to keep land from passing outside the family, marrying cousins was often encouraged to keep that from happening. It wasn't always practiced, but was certainly not frowned upon. Not at all acceptable today but not chastised back then.
Yeah I know it was a lot more common back then! I mean even till very recently (The British Royal Family) but I guess it's just wild from the perspective of the 21st century hahha!
But who am I to judge, I did my ancestry thing online and I'm like 94% Ashkenazi Jewish with a big ol circle around Poland and nearby countries like Hungary and such so my background screams inbred 😂😂
Owning land was, quite literally, something that made you almost as free as a king. It often was a signed decree from the king that granted you kand ownership. Even in the U.S., at the time, land ownership was sometimes that was personally signed off from the President himself. The document was called a Land Patent. There are still families today that have the orginal land patent signed from which ever President was in office, typically, over a 150 years ago. It's possible to get this document signed over to you if you actually negotiate with the current owners. It's far more valuable than just having a title or deed from a bank because those are little more than a receipt of the document (land patent), not the actual document. Supposedly, it waives any issues over property taxes since it's entirety yours. Funny how multigenerational families were reduced to the nuclear family and then broken down even further and now almost no one remembers this issue except the tiny but powerful 1% of multigenerational wealth.
I've probably watched this movie 200 or 300 times since I saw it in theaters, and I've never heard someone say Doc was similar to Captain Jack Sparrow. It's really accurate!
Yeah just his recklessness and confidence felt very Jack Sparrow but it makes way better sense for Doc's character as he was actively dying of TB so he had a valid reason to be so reckless with his life! I utterly loved Doc's character in this my gosh!!
Great reaction! I suggest True Grit, The Cowboys, Lonesome Dove miniseries, The Man From Snowy River (if you haven't seen yet it's does Australia proud!), 3:10 To Yuma, and Dances With Wolves.
24:03 - I wondered the same. I thought surely they didn't have glass top caskets, but I saw the real photo and they actually did. It looked just like the movie. Except one of the guy's heads looked misshaped, like ice cream that sat too long in the sun.
I'm really digging it! I think I had a misconception in my mind that Westerns were sometimes mean spirited or too rugged for me but I am dead wrong because I'm loving it so much more than I expected!
@@MovieJoob It's a romanticized version of the wild west but a lot of those things did happen. You didn't have gunfights every day but it certainly was more wild than the lands east of the Mississippi River. Being Arizonan myself I've visited Tombstone and it looks very similar to how it's shown in these movies, only the roads are paved now and a lot of buildings are more modern. As for westerns I'd highly recommend checking out Sergio Leone's westerns like The Good The Bad and The Ugly and my personal favorite For A Few Dollars More. They're known as Spaghetti Westerns due to them being directed by mostly Italians with an Italian cast. Spaghetti Westerns are darker and the line between good and evil is very blurry in a lot of the better ones. American westerns are pretty cliche especially the older ones with John Wayne. They're good movies but there certainly is a sense that the good guys are flawless and the bad guys are irredeemable which is why Sergio Leone's movies are so loved because the good guys aren't some inherently good person you can't relate to. They're just the least bad of the bunch and you can sympathize with the bad guys a lot more in those films.
Some fun things about this film: Val Kilmer learned to play the piano for this role. Wyatt Earp III was in the film. He was the guy who argues with movie Wyatt, gets hit in the head with the butt of the gun, and falls off the wooden sidewalk. Wyatt Earp III was a consultant to the film and had a great time. There have been arguments over the years about whether Doc Holliday said, "I'm your huckleberry," or "I'm your huckle bearer." Val Kilmer confirmed that the word is "huckleberry," and he said it twice in the film. The reason Doc Holiday looks at his bare feet and says, "I'll be damned," is because he assumed he'd die wearing his boots. Basically, he lived a reckless life after being diagnosed with tuberculosis, and he assumed he'd die in a gunfight.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO Edit: cant believe nobody else has mentioned it but the scene between Doc and Ringo after the play is amazing. Doc baits Ringo into showing him how fast he can draw his weapon. Then, while drunk, he copies his performance perfectly after seeing it once. Curly Bill was laughing, Ringo was not. Also, the actor who played Ringo also played a character in The Mandolorian who has a quick draw with The Mandolorian with almost the exact same line. "Fights not with you Holiday" and "I got no quarrel with you Mandolorian"
I put Tombstone #1. #2 is Young Guns, also based off a real life person Billy The Kid. I knew Doc would be your favorite here, and I know already who'd be your favorite in Young Guns
@@MovieJoob If you should watch Young Guns, enjoy it for what it is, but know that it's very much a fantasy version of the (very interesting) real people and events, like Braveheart was for William Wallace. That said, Young Guns is immensely entertaining and understands that Western is the USA's equivalent to Europe's medieval fantasy. And of course a great reaction as always! Don't worry about getting emotional - genuine emotion's why we like your reactions.
I've always thought it revealed a lot about Ringo's character when the only shot he fired in that gunfight against the Mexicans at the beginning was to kill the unarmed priest who was getting on his nerves.
My favorite scene is when Doc says "I have 2 guns, one for each of you" and he spins each gun in opposite directions. Some interesting facts about Tuberculosis. In the 1800's nearly 40% of all deaths in the US were from TB. In the last 2000 years, it's estimated to have caused 1 billion deaths. And although there are treatments for it now and few people die in countries with high quality health care, it still kills more than a million people each year in places that lack health care. And lastly some facts about Tombstone. It's a little over an hour drive from Tucson, AZ. The town's main business was Silver mining at the time. But now it's mostly tourism. One section of town is still made up like an old west town. They put on shows, like a reenactment of the shoutout, blacksmiths making stuff, etc. And they have tours of the mines.
Everything you saw except some specific speaking actually took place. The fight between Wyatt and Curly Bill in the middle of the creek was the way it happened. Doc Holliday was... a monster!! LOL As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.
No. 1) Fred white was killed before the bird cage theatre was open. 2) curly bill was not the leader of the cowboys, fineas clanton was. 3) there were more earps in town than in the movie. James earp was there. 4) wyatt and doc were not the gentlemen they are portrayed as here. See Kevin Costners whatr earp for a far more accurate portrayal. 5) virgil already left town when morgan was killed. 6) johnny Ringo killed himself. I can go on. -A modern resident of tombstone.
I believe I said not specific. Seems like you only want to see what you want see or hear. Found this without hardly any effort: -- Tombstone is based on a true story that centers around the Earp brothers, Doc Holliday, and the cowboys of Cochise County, including Ike Clanton, Curly Bill Brocius, Johnny Ringo and others (see the Tombstone cast for more). Although it takes some creative liberties as all films do, Tombstone largely follows the events before, during and after the gunfight at the O.K. Corral with some degree of historical accuracy.
Yeah we can get some nasty heat here in Australia too but relative to most places our winters are quite mild but I’ve only ever lived in Sydney winter so I complain as if it’s as cold as most places winters hahahaha 😂😝
Definitely one of my favorite westerns. I would also suggest if you want more Wyatt and Doc are the movies "Wyatt Earp" and "Gunfight at the OK Corral".
So happy you enjoyed this movie! It’s regarded as one of the greats which is a rare occurrence for newer westerns. And Docs charisma really steals the show and it’s no wonder you were pulled into his character Val Kilmer did an amazing job. Most westerns aren’t to everyone’s taste however a very few like this one can be enjoyed by many.
When Val Kilmer says the line "I've got two guns one for each of you", you'll see he flips one gun backwards and the other forwards. That in itself is very impressive 👍🏼🔥
Charlton Heston played Henry Hooker, he was one of the biggest names in Hollywood with many amazing movies to his credit. Billy Bob Thornton played the gambler Wyatt threw out of the saloon. Another amazing actor.
Great fun reaction beautiful. Living in the Southern US I've been to Tombstone a few times. For the most part it's a bit touristy but still maintains a bit of the old west including a reenactment of the gunfight. 😊😊 And God Bless You ❤
Curly Bill didn’t mean to shoot Marshall White on purpose. In real life they were friends. You can see it in his reaction when he realized what he did.
Actually IRL Wyatt Earp had been a pimp before living Tombstone. And in some circles gambling was considered on par and as bad as prostitution. That is why Ike calls the Earps pimps
Helluva story, phenomenal cast. Everyone needs to experience this film. Hon, you've seen "UNFORGIVEN", and you've seen "TOMBSTONE". Next on the Top 3 list is "OPEN RANGE". It's not a film to miss. Great reaction, today. :)
I'm your huckleberry...... 😎 Awesome, classic movie. Thanks for sharing it with us! 😊 Edited to add... That gunfight (though slightly "Hollywood-ed) was based on the real life incident....including Doc's famous "you're a daisy if you do..." quote.
@@MovieJoob as I've gotten older, the quote that resonates the most for me is when he's talking about Wyatt... "Because he's my friend!" "I got lotsa friends.....' "I don't....." The older you get, the more you realize "true friends" are a rarity....
@@stevenmartin3848 Oh absolutely, I never had many friends growing up so even when I was young I was always someone who would go very far for those that gave me the time of day!!
12:09 - "He's kinda got Captain Jack Sparrow engergy." Dang, I never thought of that. You're right. Lol 12:43 - Woah.. I never thought of that either. Lol
What's wild is that there are news reports from witnesses of the shootout at the OK corral. As I see it, the person you were looking at drew first. It was incredibly quick. It seems in modern context, a horrible case of escalation. However, no modern police officer would have the restraint to wait as long as the Earp's and Holliday did to wait in opening fire.
Such an amazing story. I live 20 minutes from the town where Virgil became the one-armed sheriff after the events of this film. The town is called Colton, located in Southern California. There's a small museum here that recount the events of what happened in Tombstone. Both Morgan and Virgil are buried here.
They really did Big Nose Kate's character wrong in this movie. In real life she was doing what Doc wanted, he knew he was going to die and he just wanted to die doing what he loved. She also was the one taking care of him at the sanitorium.
I saw her in the movie representation as putting on a brave face (you see how heartbroken she is outside as Doc and the doctor are talking). She hears every word but pretends to believe Doc when he said it was nothing. She knows Doc is dying but is letting him live his life to the fullest.
@@adamskeans2515 It never crossed my mind once that she has anything but love for him. It was crystal clear. From words to actions. She was constantly taking care of him XD
Hi, Jade. Excellent reaction. You’re very sharp. As always .Thanks for sharing. No idea if it will actually interest you, but Josephine Marcus was from a Jewish family. She & Wyatt are buried together in a Jewish cemetery just outside of San Francisco. And the actor, Charlton Heston, that played the ranch owner Henry Hooker in this, was a major star in the Golden Age of Hollywood & played Moses in the truly epic The Ten Commandments (1956).
Tombstone, Arizona, USA. A real place, a real story (basically). Wyatt Earp was a notoriously ruthless cop from Dodge City, Kansas. Criminals across the country knew of Wyatt Earp and fear him. The saying "Get the hell out of Dodge!" came from criminals telling other criminals about Wyatt, and to stay away from Dodge City. True story.
There’s quite a few well known cowboys/ western genre actors in this. Sam Elliott lots, the Hacketts, the quick and the dead, the shadow riders, you know my name. the ranger, the cook and the whole in the sky. (Which is a precursor to the movie, a river runs through it). Consgher, 1883, the big Lebowski. Charlton Heston: will penny, the savages, the big country. Buck Taylor.. he played turkey creek jack johnson in tombstone. He was a long time fixture of tv’s Gun Smoke, also in the Hacketts, and in the movie, He’ll or High Water. Fred White was played by Harry Carey jr. He was in, last stand at saber river, and nine other westerns alongside John Wayne. (Also he’s in the movie, they still call me trinity). Funny westerns: they call me trinity, and trinity is still my name, with Terrance Howard. Nothing to do either tombstone. Harry Carey jr’s father was Harry Carey sr. Who first appeared as an actor, in a western in 1908. Western genre royalty. Nothing related to tombstone either. I understand this is a long post but, the more you know, the less you don’t.
An insight into this rendition of the the Earps and Holliday... holiday had codependency disorder. His life didn't matter, but protecting Wyatt was far above his own preservation.
If you haven’t already seen it, I would recommend “Quigley Down Under,” starring Alan Rickman and Tom Selleck. It is set in Australia, of course, during the wild-west days of your country, so I think you would really appreciate it.
@@MovieJoob You’re very welcome! I agree that Rickman is a superb actor, Jade. He plays villainous characters so convincingly - he’s the bad guy everyone loves to hate! (As you know, it isn’t really Christmas until Hans Gruber falls from Nakatoomi Tower!)
@@MovieJoob I know a lot of gunslingers and outlaws ran off to Australia when the west became more tame. There is a romantic conception of the west at that time a lot of people had trouble moving past and the criminals were often the last to accept it and moved on to avoid it altogether.
Another excellent reaction. I love the emotion, it's real. Just so you know though, Doc's actions would have been the same if he was healthy. It wasn't because he figured he was dying anyway. It's because that's the kind of man he was. Tombstone is real and this is "based" on a true story. Tombstone still exists as a tourist attraction and small town. I've been there several times in the last few years. It's awesome.
In the "very cosmopolitan" scene, the shooting WAS legal and "law and order". Allow me to educate. "Turkey Creek" Jack Johnson who shot the other man, didn't shoot him because "he crawfished a bet and called him a liar". That's only his explanation of how it started. He shot the other man because he warned him "don't raise that arm, I don't wanna shoot you" and he did anyway. Clear cut self defense. Law and order.
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I'm your huckleberry ❤.. classic movie
Virgil lived another 24 years, dying in 1905 at age 62. For the time, and especially for a gunfighter who had been severely wounded, that’s not bad.
@@daerdevvyl4314 That’s really lovely to hear!! 🙌 thank you for telling me!
2 more must see Westerns
Magnificent 7
And
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Now you have to see Lonesome Dove ultimate Western it's magnificent has everything you want in a Western and more
Val Kilmer was robbed of an Academy Award for his role as Doc Holiday. Outstanding film!
I am honestly really upset he didn't win for that performance. That performance was 10/10 I was blown away!!
What is even more disappointing is he wasn't even nominated....Tommy Lee Jones(The Fugitive) winning was not a bad choice though
Yeah. Tommy Lee was pretty damn good in that. The problem is he’s pretty much that guy in all his movies. No doubt Val deserved that Oscar, but it seems Hollywood didn’t look favorably on this movie.
I'd have given it to Pete Postelthwaite for his role as Giuseppe in In The Name Of The Father but that year had some superb performances in the category with Leo DiCaprio, John Malcovich and Ralph Fiennes along with Jones and Kilmer also nominated.
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The three (wives) of the Earp brothers were actually prostitutes that they had shacked up with. They were called married because it was actually illegal to do that during that time period. Therefore they would call them common law married.
Val Kilmer really stole the show with this role. Doc Holiday was a real historical person and it is reported that his last words were like in the movie. He looked at his feet and said "This is funny" This is because he lived a very dangerous life and people like that usually died with their boots on. However he was able to beat the odds and died peacefully in his bed with his shoes off.
31:10
"Why do I want to cry?"
Because you're human! Those few short lines touch everyone who watches this movie. "Wyatt Earp is my friend." "Hell, I got lots of friends." "I don't." It's an honest look into Doc's life, beautifully delivered by Val Kilmer. His lifestyle has left him with few people able to get close to him and see beyond his sarcastic and cynical attitudes. Wyatt was a rare one that Doc respected deeply and who showed Doc that same respect. We all feel for Doc, because at this moment he shows us how vulnerable, sad, and lonely he can be.
So glad you watched this one, this is the best Western of all time!
When Doc described Ringo, it was from the fact that he was given TB by his mom when was young. So Doc hated that he was born. However, he actually was a dentist, hence the nickname Doc. Wyatt went to live in Los Angeles and was a consultant for many Western movies in the day. He made friends with an up and coming actor named Marion Morrison, best known as John Wayne or the Duke. Wayne patterned his cowboy characters after Wyatt Earp.
I've said it before but I really appreciate her honesty. "I'm a woman. I like men." No games, no fuss.
Yeah she was awesome and badass and free spirited!
🍺 👁
They didn't graffiti the tombstone, that's the actual epitaph and that grave is still there in the city of Tombstone.
Ohh interesting!! It looked a bit messy but I guess they had limited tools there!
@@MovieJoob
"Here Lies Lester Moore
Four Slugs From A .44
No Less
No More"
@@MovieJoobAnd as someone just posted above, the actual epitaph is a clever little pun.
@@phila3884 Moore or Les. 😂😂
@@MovieJoob I've been thru Tombstone and saw that, if you ever get the chance, it's worth it.
Doc - "Wyatt Earp is my friend."
"Hell, I've got lots of friends."
Doc - "I don't."
Very simple lines, but so well-delivered that they're packed with meaning. Such a great movie!
YESS!! Sometimes big monologues aren't needed to express the character deeply. A simple impactful set of lines can utterly deepen a character perfectly!!
It's so meaningful.. So moving and well delivered
As you have probably gathered by now,, Wyatt Earp, Morgan Earp, Virgil Earp and their families, Doc Holliday, and Ike Clanton and the Cowboys gang were actual, real-life historical figures in the Wild West. The shootout near the OK corral in Tombstone actually took place largely as portrayed, with Wyatt being the only participant who was not killed or wounded in the gunfight. The incident in which Doc and the Earps were caught in the crossfire ambush at the river, during which Wyatt Earp waded out into the water amidst a hail of bullets to confront Curly Bill, also really happened. Doc Holliday’s illness made him reckless, careless with his life. His mindset was that it would be better to die in a quick, clean gunfight than to suffer a long lingering death due to tuberculosis. His performance as Doc Holliday is Val Kilmer’s best role and greatest performance. (Laudanum is a mixture of opium and alcohol, and Wyatt's common-law wife was addicted to it, which led to her death from an overdose.)
Yes I have since gathered and I feel bad that I had no idea about these people prior but now I'm so fascinated by them!! This film was utterly incredible and Val as Doc was just perfection I am so impressed!!
Yeah old-timey 'medicine' was wild. I've seen pictures online of old timey for 'cough syrup' with c0caine in it lmao what were these folks doing 😂😂
@@MovieJoob they were using medicines that actually worked. :)
... the downside is that you can't trust the public with medicines that work. They'll get addicted and society breaks down... so instead you give them medicines that kind of mask symptoms while also causing several side effects that require you to give them more medications of low efficacy that cause more side effects, etc, ad infinitum in a recursive loop of endless profit for the pharmaceutical industry,.
The film's portrayal of the shootout at the Okay Corral is pretty accurate... It's true that Wyatt (and Ike) were not killed or wounded... In the movie Doc was not wounded... In the actual events Doc was grazed by a bullet near his pistol pocket.
Now in regards to the killing of Curly Bill... The movie's a little more distant from the truth... Wyatt and his group were *not* ambushed or surrounded... They stumbled on the cowboys (who were cooking a meal) neither the cowboys nor Wyatt's group, were expecting to run into the other group... In that shootout. Wyatt's coat was shot through on both sides... His saddle horn was shot *and* he was hit in the boot heel... But somehow; through all the years and all the gunfights... He never actually got shot...
Pretty amazing really.
From wikipedia: On March 24, 1882, the Earp party was expecting to meet Charlie Smith at Iron Springs (later Mescal Springs), in the Whetstone Mountains. Smith was bringing cash from Tombstone about 20 miles (32 km) to the east to help pay posse expenses. As they surmounted the edge of a wash near the springs, they stumbled upon Brocius, Pony Diehl, Johnny Barnes, Frank Patterson, Milt Hicks, Bill Hicks, Bill Johnson, Ed Lyle, and Johnny Lyle, cooking a meal alongside the spring.
According to Wyatt Earp - and an anonymous report to The Tombstone Epitaph- he was in the lead of the posse when they suddenly came upon the Cowboys' camp at the springs from less than 30 feet (9m) behind an embankment. The Cowboys began firing just as Earp dismounted, and thought for a moment they had shot him, but had hit his saddle horn instead. Texas Jack Vermillion, whose horse was killed, remained cool under fire and stuck close to Wyatt during the fight. Doc, Johnson, and McMaster fired their weapons and sought cover. Warren Earp was away on an errand at the time.
Eighteen months prior, Wyatt Earp had protected Brocius against a mob ready to lynch him for killing Town Marshal Fred White, and then provided testimony that helped spare him from a murder conviction. Now Brocius fired at Earp with his shotgun from about 50 feet (15 m), but missed. Earp returned fire over his horse using a 22-inch, 10-gauge shotgun. He killed Brocius with a load of buckshot to the stomach, nearly cutting him in half. Brocius fell into the water at the edge of the spring.
The Cowboys fired a number of shots at the Earp party, but the lawmen's fire was so intense that those Cowboys who could, left. Earp's long coat was punctured by bullets on both sides. Another bullet struck his boot heel and his saddle horn was hit, as well, burning the saddle hide and narrowly missing Wyatt. Firing his pistol, Earp shot Johnny Barnes in the chest and Milt Hicks in the arm. Vermillion tried to retrieve his rifle wedged in the scabbard under his fallen horse, exposing himself to the Cowboys' gunfire. Doc Holliday helped him gain cover. Earp had trouble remounting his horse due to a cartridge belt that had slipped down his legs. He was finally able to get on his horse and retreat. McMaster was grazed by a bullet that cut through the straps of his field glasses.
Earp biographer John Flood wrote that The Cowboys buried Brocius' body on the nearby ranch of Frank Patterson near the Babocomari River. This is close to the original McLaury ranch site about 5 miles (8 km) west of Fairbank (before the McLaurys moved to the Sulphur Springs Valley in late 1880). Brocius's grave site has never been identified.
drewf8619 How the hell does one miss with a shotgun from 50 feet away?! Brocius must have panicked and pulled the trigger before he’d raised his gun. It’s the only explanation.
Doc is so endearing because Val Kilmer made this film his magnum opus. Such an incredible performance by him! Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for another awesome reaction!
I have no words for how impressed I was by his performance!!
All the Zillenial in me can say is. ATE. LEFT NO CRUMBS. DEVOURED. 😂😝
@@MovieJoob Ha ha! Touché!
Think it's one of the greatest Oscar mistakes that Val Kilmer was never nominated, let alone won.
It's one of the best and most memorable performances of all time
Yeah I'm genuinely upset that they didn't award him for this performance! What a mistake by the Academy in my opinion!!
The producers wanted Willem Dafoe to play Holiday. Can you even imagine that!?
@floppyblanket2587 that's about as strange as hearing that they wanted Christopher Walken to play Han Solo.
People keep saying this but the movie was not out in time for the Oscar nominations
@@laurelg9586 Then he should have been nominated for the following Oscar season.
I am impressed. First reactor I’ve seen to pick up on almost all the nuances within this film. Special props for picking up on the meaning of Doc’s line “Revenge…for being born”. This is, aside from Lord of the Rings, my most favorite film of all time ☺️
Thank you so incredibly much!! I came into this film knowing nothing but came away absolutely loving it!!
I'm so bloody impressed with this film! And omg yes LoTR films are my favourite of all time! I'm so ashamed at how long i lived my life never seeing them but at least that meant I got to experience it on this channel with everyone!!
There is one VERY subtle nuance that few see... in the seen where 'Turkey Creek' Jack Johnson (Buck Taylor) is kneeling making coffee.... He looks at Doc and says 'I have lots of friends.' That could have been a blowoff line, but if you go back and look closely at the medallion he has around his neck... it is the Freemason Square and Compasses... so that was a slight nod to the Fraternity and those friendships... and Buck Taylor is in real life a mason as well...
"For God's sake, kill Ike" lolol
Every person who has ever watched this movie.
Ma'am, you always seem so kind-hearted. There's never a reason to apologize for being you.
That is so sweet thank you so much!! But I say sorry like an alcoholic drinks so I can't fathom being unapologetic bahahahaha
Wyatt wasn’t married to Maddie. If you remember Doc asked Wyatt if he considered himself a married man and he said “pretty much”. They were just living together.
Yup...they were just "common law" husband and wife in real life
Still cheating, but given her drug addiction, Wyatt was right to be looking for the exit door. He should have just gone through it first before moving onto the next woman, but given that these were real human beings and not gods, they made real human mistakes.
@@johnjones_1501 actually if you’re shacking up you’re sinning and should have no expectation of fidelity!
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Once he stated she was his wife they were married in the eyes of the law (in most jurisdictions).
Biblically "Shacking Up" isn't a sin, it's a marriage.
@@gk5891 wrong! No such thing as Biblically shacking up! Common law marriage doesn’t happen because you call someone your wife, which BTW Wyatt didn’t. Doc asked him if he considered himself to be a married man forsaking all others? Wyatt replied “Ya, pretty much!” I know of no denomination accepting two people not legally married, without a marriage certificate and just verbally claiming to be, as. married.
One of ther very first Western movies i saw on VHS back in the 90's.
Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for his role as Doc Holliday.
I'm shocked and upset that he didn't honestly his performance was enthralling!!
I was magnetised to him the entire time!!
can you imagine this movie without Val Kilmer?
@@Jim1791yeah, it's a flatter more boring version. Kevin Costner made that one.
@@crankfastle8138 yes he did. Watched it once. But I’ve seen Tombstone more times than I can count. lol
@11:50... My grandfather is an old Western/ Gun guy. While watching this movie with him, he pointed out how Johnny Ringo moves his head and body in to the direction where he flips his gun. "Doc saw it too." If you look at Doc's eyes, you can see him studying Johnny's gun speed and body movement. When Johnny finished flipping his gun, that's when Doc mimicked him but in a slower silly pace.
I have been to the Bird Cage Theater in Tombstone. The ceiling has over 100 bullet holes.
While the film makes it look like Virgil and Morgan were shot on the same evening. It was actually three months apart. Also, Doc actually died 6 years after Wyatt Earp and his immortals took their vengeance ride. The only thing in this film that is not real is, the killer of Johnny Ringo wasn't Doc. The killer was unknown.
Many people think that Ringo did it himself. I don't know enough of the full story to have an opinion.
I think Ringo killed himself. He was suicidal for most of his life.
Omg that's wild! Do the bullets not rain back down on them? 😭 I'd LOVE to see some old western theatres like that in person!!
And oh wow that is so interesting!! Thank you for the info!
@@MovieJoob Bullets, especially back then, don't really have the force to go up through the ceiling and then back down through the roof, unless it was fired 100% straight up and down (and even then, a good wind might alter its course, as would hitting the roof in the first place). That doesn't make them safe, but what most likely happened was bullets going through the ceiling then coming down to land on the roof. I don't know if the roof is flat or peaked, but if flat, they probably just stayed up there unless they were cleaned.
Bullet trajectories and ballistics is a fascinating, complicated subject.
Cool reaction, the reason Doc said it was funny looking at his bare feet was that he always thought he'd "die with his boots on". In other words, gunfighting.
Loved the reaction idk if anyones said anything about it but the Landowner with the big mustache that takes in Doc when he's less sick than he seems is Charlton Heston Oscar Winning actor major star in the 50s/60s
Cool film. Shoutout from the mountains of Gatlinburg, Tennessee. U.S.A. Peace.
Such an awesome film! I'm so glad I watched it!!
And yeah the USA has some stunning landscapes!!
This is why I find reaction videos compelling; Joob immediately noticed the pale horse and she who rode it, after playing "Lady Satan", and Hell certainly followed.
I've been watching this film for decades and just thought it was a cool visual.
WELL I'LL BE GAWD DAYMED
Aww thank you so very much!! I'm so glad you enjoyed!!
This film blew me away I didn't expect to love it as much as I do!!
No, thank YOU 🙏
The old friendly Marshall is Harry Carrey Jr., who appeared in many classic westerns, many starring John Waynd and directed by John Ford. The Searchers especially, which ends with a tribute to his father, who also starred in may great westerns, including Red River. Keep up the western binge. I'm loving it.
Thank you so very much!! I'm loving the Western binge too I'm absolutely hooked!!
Funny enough, John Wayne based his whole cowboy persona on Wyatt Earp himself who he met in California later in Wyatt's life
I’m happy that you’re enjoying the westerns you’ve seen so far. What’s great about Tombstone is how historically accurate it is considering that it’s a Hollywood movie. In fact Wyatt was probably more of a badass in real life than even portrayed in the movie.
Interesting fact: John Wayne actually knew Wyatt Earp. Earp acted as a consultant for early movie studios before his death when a very young Wayne worked there doing odd jobs. They would occasionally eat lunch together in the studio commissary. It is said that John Wayne used Earp as inspiration for his personality in many of his performances.
Which leads me to my recommendation. John Wayne, of course. There are soooo many, but for your first I would recommend The Cowboys. I think you’ll love it.
12:27 The editing is perfect, but probably unintentional. "Who is that other idiot?" "That's Wyatt Earp. Made a name for himself as a peace officer."
Hey there! I love your channel! Since you seem to be on a bit of a western kick, I've got three recommendations for you. The first is an old classic and both my AND STEPHEN SPIELBERG'S favorite western: *The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance* which is a western but also so much more. The other two are modern remakes which are better than their originals: *True Grit* by the Coen Brothers and *3:10** To Yuma* by James Mangold. *True Grit* is an especially awesome film and in addition to great performances by Jeff Bridges and Matt Damon it is also Hailee Steinfeld's first film and she is terrific in it. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for these great suggestions! I am screenshotting this comment for ones to watch next as I am definitely on a Western kick and loving it!!
Yay!
One of the best comments I've heard anywhere.
"I'm unapologetically me. I'm sorry."
Keep up the great work.
I think Doc was so charming because you've seen what so many others believe is Val Kilmer's best and most iconic performance, which is saying a lot.
Doc: “Indeed sir. The last charge of Wyatt Earp and his immortals.”
One of the most powerful lines in movie history.
36:27 Maybe someone already explained this, but back then it was common to die with your boots on, maybe from getting killed by someone or something. Doc didn't expect he'd ever die in a bed, but rather outside, I guess. That's why he was surprised he was dying in bed, with his boots off.
There’s a 1980s movie called The Private Eyes starting my two favorite comedians Don Knotts and Tim Conway. It doesn’t get a ton of attention but it is by far one of my favorite comedies ever. If you are interested in reacting to it that’d be cool but if not that’s perfectly okay too. Thanks for the video! Tombstone is a fantastic movie
Oh interesting, thank you so much for the suggestion! I hadn't heard of it!
And honestly my pleasure I loved Tombstone more than I expected!!
What soooooo many fail to notice is that the actor playing Ringo is the same man who played Reese in the first Terminator movie. Then there is the amazing narration by a Hollywood ICON Robert Mitchum, an actor mostly known for tough guy/bad guy characters (and funny enough close friends with Jimmy Stewart, notorious nice guy in film.) Also, thanks for leaving the line "I don't" in your reaction. As a man getting older, that is one of the lines in movies that tears e up every time.
Michael Biehn
I accidently found Wyatt and Josephine"s first owned house, in Vidal, California. A few months later, visited Doc Holliday's grave, in Glenwood Springs, Colorado. Were both a humbling experience.
Recommendation for your next western. Assuming you liked this one the Coen brother's 2010 remake of TRUE GRIT should be you huckleberry, too
Probably one of the better reactions to this film that I've watched. Keep up the great work! :)
Aww thank you so very much!! 😊🙌
Doc stole the show in every scene he was in. Really loved this film. Thanks for the reaction. BTW, many people in the west were common law spouses at that time.
This movie is considered a western but takes place in Australia "Quigley Down Under" worth a watch. A list of my Cint Eastwood westerns "Outlaw Josey Wales" "Pale Rider" "High Plains Drifter" to name a few. Holiday was a dentist, not a MD. God Bless You two times. The Chinese were working on the railroads. Great movie and Great Reaction.
Thank you so much for the suggestions!! I really appreciate it!
I'd never heard of the Australian one either surprisingly but I am a newbie to Western genre films!!
All 4 of these are fantastic suggestions!
Jade, you REALLY need to see the Academy Award winning theatrical cut of "Dances With Wolves." It is an epic western.
Thank you so much for the suggestion!!
@@MovieJoob You're welcome! The theatrical cut (181 minutes) is the director's cut. The Extended Cut was not officially sanctioned by director and star Kevin Costner, and it damages the film's pacing.
@@MovieJoob Absolutely agree. "Dances With Wolves" staring Kevin Costner, probably one of his best films, won multiple best picture awards. And an absolutely stunning movie. If you can find the theatrical version, it adds about 30 more minutes but is worth it imo. Graham Greene's best role as well. He's just amazing in it.
Love your movie reactions!
Aww thank you so incredibly much!!
Aww thank you so incredibly much!! I came into this knowing nothing about the film but I came away utterly loving it!
This is a true story. It has been the subject of number of movies and TV episodes. The shootout at the OK Corral is legendary. Another movie I recommend, which focuses on Wyatt Earp (played by Kevin Costner) is the very excellent cinematic work by the same name: Wyatt Earp (1994). You should react to it.
This is a fictionalized portrayal of real events. Lmao.
There are sooo many amazing and quotable lines in this movie! Awesome job reviewing as always!
This film is more historically accurate than films about these kinds of events tend to be. They took some liberties here and there with the sequence of events, but for the most part, it's a pretty good representation of what happened. The portrayal of Doc was just a little inflation of the reality. He was educated, and known to be very smart. Thin and sickly, but very proficient at cards, and with a pistol.
Doc Holliday graduated from the Pennsylvania College of Dental Surgery and had tuberculosis hence the term lunger.
I remember watching this in theaters as a teen and getting chills during the retribution ride. One of the greatest Westerns ever created.
At the time Wyatt Earp was arriving in Tombstone, Ned Kelly was doing his thing in Australia. Wyatt arrived in tombstone in 1879 Ned was hanged in 1880
Ahh that is so interested for the context time-wise! Thank you so much!!
@@MovieJoobYeah, Ned Kelly was quite the character himself. There is a movie that came out that was good called "Ned Kelly" it has Heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom in it
Jade, your comments on the cousin thing. I'll tell you what my grandmother told me when I was a child. Land was an extremely valuable commodity in the 1800's and in order to keep land from passing outside the family, marrying cousins was often encouraged to keep that from happening. It wasn't always practiced, but was certainly not frowned upon. Not at all acceptable today but not chastised back then.
Yeah I know it was a lot more common back then! I mean even till very recently (The British Royal Family) but I guess it's just wild from the perspective of the 21st century hahha!
But who am I to judge, I did my ancestry thing online and I'm like 94% Ashkenazi Jewish with a big ol circle around Poland and nearby countries like Hungary and such so my background screams inbred 😂😂
Owning land was, quite literally, something that made you almost as free as a king. It often was a signed decree from the king that granted you kand ownership. Even in the U.S., at the time, land ownership was sometimes that was personally signed off from the President himself. The document was called a Land Patent. There are still families today that have the orginal land patent signed from which ever President was in office, typically, over a 150 years ago. It's possible to get this document signed over to you if you actually negotiate with the current owners. It's far more valuable than just having a title or deed from a bank because those are little more than a receipt of the document (land patent), not the actual document. Supposedly, it waives any issues over property taxes since it's entirety yours. Funny how multigenerational families were reduced to the nuclear family and then broken down even further and now almost no one remembers this issue except the tiny but powerful 1% of multigenerational wealth.
"Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was Death... and Hell followed with him".
"You tell 'em I'm coming, and Hell's coming with me!"
I've probably watched this movie 200 or 300 times since I saw it in theaters, and I've never heard someone say Doc was similar to Captain Jack Sparrow. It's really accurate!
Yeah just his recklessness and confidence felt very Jack Sparrow but it makes way better sense for Doc's character as he was actively dying of TB so he had a valid reason to be so reckless with his life! I utterly loved Doc's character in this my gosh!!
Great reaction! I suggest True Grit, The Cowboys, Lonesome Dove miniseries, The Man From Snowy River (if you haven't seen yet it's does Australia proud!), 3:10 To Yuma, and Dances With Wolves.
109⁰ here today in Arizona, thank god it's a dry heat😂😂😂
Oh deary me that's 42 degrees sheesh!! Stay cool and be careful!! 😵
only 109? don't you know us Arizonans only start complaining when it hits 115? 🤣
Wyatt and Mattie weren't married. Just living together.
Yeah that makes sense! And especially in those times living together would've been seen as defacto married even if they weren't married!!
@@MovieJoob Yes basically what we call Common Law now.
24:03 - I wondered the same. I thought surely they didn't have glass top caskets, but I saw the real photo and they actually did.
It looked just like the movie. Except one of the guy's heads looked misshaped, like ice cream that sat too long in the sun.
you should definitely continue with the western vibe, check out The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and western comedy Blazing Saddles.
I'm really digging it! I think I had a misconception in my mind that Westerns were sometimes mean spirited or too rugged for me but I am dead wrong because I'm loving it so much more than I expected!
This one especially blew me away! And thank you so much for the suggestions!!
@@MovieJoob It's a romanticized version of the wild west but a lot of those things did happen. You didn't have gunfights every day but it certainly was more wild than the lands east of the Mississippi River. Being Arizonan myself I've visited Tombstone and it looks very similar to how it's shown in these movies, only the roads are paved now and a lot of buildings are more modern.
As for westerns I'd highly recommend checking out Sergio Leone's westerns like The Good The Bad and The Ugly and my personal favorite For A Few Dollars More. They're known as Spaghetti Westerns due to them being directed by mostly Italians with an Italian cast. Spaghetti Westerns are darker and the line between good and evil is very blurry in a lot of the better ones. American westerns are pretty cliche especially the older ones with John Wayne. They're good movies but there certainly is a sense that the good guys are flawless and the bad guys are irredeemable which is why Sergio Leone's movies are so loved because the good guys aren't some inherently good person you can't relate to. They're just the least bad of the bunch and you can sympathize with the bad guys a lot more in those films.
Some fun things about this film:
Val Kilmer learned to play the piano for this role.
Wyatt Earp III was in the film. He was the guy who argues with movie Wyatt, gets hit in the head with the butt of the gun, and falls off the wooden sidewalk. Wyatt Earp III was a consultant to the film and had a great time.
There have been arguments over the years about whether Doc Holliday said, "I'm your huckleberry," or "I'm your huckle bearer." Val Kilmer confirmed that the word is "huckleberry," and he said it twice in the film.
The reason Doc Holiday looks at his bare feet and says, "I'll be damned," is because he assumed he'd die wearing his boots. Basically, he lived a reckless life after being diagnosed with tuberculosis, and he assumed he'd die in a gunfight.
Yeah, the huckle bearer thing is just internet nonsense that gets repeated.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Edit: cant believe nobody else has mentioned it but the scene between Doc and Ringo after the play is amazing. Doc baits Ringo into showing him how fast he can draw his weapon. Then, while drunk, he copies his performance perfectly after seeing it once. Curly Bill was laughing, Ringo was not.
Also, the actor who played Ringo also played a character in The Mandolorian who has a quick draw with The Mandolorian with almost the exact same line. "Fights not with you Holiday" and "I got no quarrel with you Mandolorian"
Great pic! Top 5 movie for me
I absolutely loved it, way more than I anticipated to!!
What a brilliant movie!!
Love this movie despite the the inaccuracies. The biggest being they didnt kill that many people during the vendetta ride.
Doc Holliday is one of my favorite historical figures
I never knew of the actual person in history but this portrayal of him makes me very endeared to the badass figure he seems to have been!!
@MovieJoob I guess with you being Australian you woukd have never knew this was a "true story"
Another interesting tidbit was that McMasters was never killed. He actually survived all the events riding with Wyatt
Awesome movie!! Loved every second of the reaction!!👋👋👏👏💖💖🙌🙌
Thank you so very much!! I'm so glad!!
I absolutely loved this movie!! ❤️🙌😊
I put Tombstone #1. #2 is Young Guns, also based off a real life person Billy The Kid. I knew Doc would be your favorite here, and I know already who'd be your favorite in Young Guns
This film blew me away I didn't expect to love it as fiercely as I do!! Doc absolutely stole the show for me! 🤩
And thank you so much for the suggestion!! I don't know hardly anything about the actual Billy The Kid but I know he is famous from those times!!
@@MovieJoob If you should watch Young Guns, enjoy it for what it is, but know that it's very much a fantasy version of the (very interesting) real people and events, like Braveheart was for William Wallace. That said, Young Guns is immensely entertaining and understands that Western is the USA's equivalent to Europe's medieval fantasy.
And of course a great reaction as always! Don't worry about getting emotional - genuine emotion's why we like your reactions.
@@tomfuchary I couldn't see the chicken, I was in the spirit world a**hole 😁
@@tomfucharyyes that scene is hilarious
I've always thought it revealed a lot about Ringo's character when the only shot he fired in that gunfight against the Mexicans at the beginning was to kill the unarmed priest who was getting on his nerves.
My favorite scene is when Doc says "I have 2 guns, one for each of you" and he spins each gun in opposite directions.
Some interesting facts about Tuberculosis. In the 1800's nearly 40% of all deaths in the US were from TB. In the last 2000 years, it's estimated to have caused 1 billion deaths. And although there are treatments for it now and few people die in countries with high quality health care, it still kills more than a million people each year in places that lack health care.
And lastly some facts about Tombstone. It's a little over an hour drive from Tucson, AZ. The town's main business was Silver mining at the time. But now it's mostly tourism. One section of town is still made up like an old west town. They put on shows, like a reenactment of the shoutout, blacksmiths making stuff, etc. And they have tours of the mines.
Miss Joob,One of the Greatest Westerns of all time is called "High Noon" starring Gary Cooper, you may want to check it out. a film classic..!!
Ooh I haven't heard of it! Thank you so much for the suggestion!!
Much to Ringo's horror, Doc mimicked his gun twirling routine perfectly while completely drunk. This showed Ringo how outmatched he truly was.
Everything you saw except some specific speaking actually took place. The fight between Wyatt and Curly Bill in the middle of the creek was the way it happened. Doc Holliday was... a monster!! LOL
As we say in Texas; y'all be safe.
No. 1) Fred white was killed before the bird cage theatre was open. 2) curly bill was not the leader of the cowboys, fineas clanton was. 3) there were more earps in town than in the movie. James earp was there. 4) wyatt and doc were not the gentlemen they are portrayed as here. See Kevin Costners whatr earp for a far more accurate portrayal. 5) virgil already left town when morgan was killed. 6) johnny Ringo killed himself. I can go on. -A modern resident of tombstone.
How does anything I said have anything to do with what you've said here.
@Gort-Marvin0Martian "everything you saw except some specific speaking actually took place." No it didn't
I believe I said not specific. Seems like you only want to see what you want see or hear.
Found this without hardly any effort:
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Tombstone is based on a true story that centers around the Earp brothers, Doc Holliday, and the cowboys of Cochise County, including Ike Clanton, Curly Bill Brocius, Johnny Ringo and others (see the Tombstone cast for more).
Although it takes some creative liberties as all films do, Tombstone largely follows the events before, during and after the gunfight at the O.K. Corral with some degree of historical accuracy.
You're lucky it's cool there. Here in Texas it's hot enough to cook bacon on a rock in the sun
Yeah we can get some nasty heat here in Australia too but relative to most places our winters are quite mild but I’ve only ever lived in Sydney winter so I complain as if it’s as cold as most places winters hahahaha 😂😝
Imo the best western of all time
So far, my favourite Western too! I love that way more than I expected to!!
An incredible film I'm so glad I watched it!
This movie was a love letter to the genre that largely died out before it was made.
@@MovieJoobtry "high plain drifter" and "few dollars more"
Definitely one of my favorite westerns. I would also suggest if you want more Wyatt and Doc are the movies "Wyatt Earp" and "Gunfight at the OK Corral".
So happy you enjoyed this movie! It’s regarded as one of the greats which is a rare occurrence for newer westerns. And Docs charisma really steals the show and it’s no wonder you were pulled into his character Val Kilmer did an amazing job. Most westerns aren’t to everyone’s taste however a very few like this one can be enjoyed by many.
I absolutely loved it! Way more than I anticipated to!! Val utterly nailed it he was magnetising!!
When Val Kilmer says the line "I've got two guns one for each of you", you'll see he flips one gun backwards and the other forwards. That in itself is very impressive 👍🏼🔥
It's actually one of the simplest gun tricks. Just gotta get the timing.
The butterfly twirls Ringo does are far more difficult to execute
Charlton Heston played Henry Hooker, he was one of the biggest names in Hollywood with many amazing movies to his credit.
Billy Bob Thornton played the gambler Wyatt threw out of the saloon. Another amazing actor.
There's two kinds of Westerns: Serious, and Just Fun. This is right in the middle.
Great fun reaction beautiful. Living in the Southern US I've been to Tombstone a few times. For the most part it's a bit touristy but still maintains a bit of the old west including a reenactment of the gunfight. 😊😊 And God Bless You ❤
Curly Bill didn’t mean to shoot Marshall White on purpose. In real life they were friends. You can see it in his reaction when he realized what he did.
is it cold their. it was in the low 90s here and in tombstone today because it is monsoon season hear in southeast Arizona.
Actually IRL Wyatt Earp had been a pimp before living Tombstone. And in some circles gambling was considered on par and as bad as prostitution. That is why Ike calls the Earps pimps
Helluva story, phenomenal cast. Everyone needs to experience this film. Hon, you've seen "UNFORGIVEN", and you've seen "TOMBSTONE". Next on the Top 3 list is "OPEN RANGE". It's not a film to miss. Great reaction, today. :)
Thank you so much for the suggestion Grandpa! I have now adopted you as my grandpa! ❤
@@MovieJoob 😀Welcome to the family! The family reunion is in September, this year. (I'm bringing the baked beans.)
Fabulous I love beans! See ya soon Pa!!
@@MovieJoob See ya there! (I'll save you a seat by me so we can catch up on things.) ;)
I'm your huckleberry...... 😎
Awesome, classic movie. Thanks for sharing it with us! 😊
Edited to add... That gunfight (though slightly "Hollywood-ed) was based on the real life incident....including Doc's famous "you're a daisy if you do..." quote.
I loved Doc's quotes here!! I'm your Huckleberry and You're a daisy if you do were definitely my favourites!!
@@MovieJoob as I've gotten older, the quote that resonates the most for me is when he's talking about Wyatt...
"Because he's my friend!"
"I got lotsa friends.....'
"I don't....."
The older you get, the more you realize "true friends" are a rarity....
@@stevenmartin3848 Oh absolutely, I never had many friends growing up so even when I was young I was always someone who would go very far for those that gave me the time of day!!
12:09 - "He's kinda got Captain Jack Sparrow engergy."
Dang, I never thought of that. You're right. Lol
12:43 - Woah.. I never thought of that either. Lol
Hahaha sometimes a fresh set of eye make you look at things differently!!
Love the reactions jade. Tombsis probably one of the best westerns ever made. Another good one is Open Range, Kevin Costner and Robert Duval
I second that recommendation, excellent film!!!!
It was so sweet you telling Curly Bill "no, no" when he was hopped up on Opium :)
This film has greatest collection of awesome mustaches in cinematic history.
Val Kilmer was SPECTACULAR as Doc Holiday. Yep. You had it right. "Ride or Die." So badass!!
If you like westerns, I recommend “Appaloosa” with Ed Harris and Aragorn and “3:10 to Yuma” with Russell Crowe and Batman
What's wild is that there are news reports from witnesses of the shootout at the OK corral. As I see it, the person you were looking at drew first. It was incredibly quick. It seems in modern context, a horrible case of escalation. However, no modern police officer would have the restraint to wait as long as the Earp's and Holliday did to wait in opening fire.
Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Utterly brilliant. No notes. 5 stars. Ate. I was blown away!!
While not as popular as this movie I liked Kevin Costner’s version, just called Wyatt Earp. Dennis Quaid played Doc Holliday.
Such an amazing story. I live 20 minutes from the town where Virgil became the one-armed sheriff after the events of this film. The town is called Colton, located in Southern California. There's a small museum here that recount the events of what happened in Tombstone. Both Morgan and Virgil are buried here.
They really did Big Nose Kate's character wrong in this movie. In real life she was doing what Doc wanted, he knew he was going to die and he just wanted to die doing what he loved. She also was the one taking care of him at the sanitorium.
Ohh that is so fascinating!! Thank you so much for the true context and information!!
@@MovieJoob though, over-dramatized, much of what happened in this movie actually happened.
I saw her in the movie representation as putting on a brave face (you see how heartbroken she is outside as Doc and the doctor are talking). She hears every word but pretends to believe Doc when he said it was nothing. She knows Doc is dying but is letting him live his life to the fullest.
@@thomaspappalardo7589 most people who watch this movie don't get that, thank you.
@@adamskeans2515 It never crossed my mind once that she has anything but love for him.
It was crystal clear.
From words to actions.
She was constantly taking care of him XD
Hi, Jade. Excellent reaction. You’re very sharp. As always .Thanks for sharing.
No idea if it will actually interest you, but Josephine Marcus was from a Jewish family. She & Wyatt are buried together in a Jewish cemetery just outside of San Francisco.
And the actor, Charlton Heston, that played the ranch owner Henry Hooker in this, was a major star in the Golden Age of Hollywood & played Moses in the truly epic The Ten Commandments (1956).
1:35 this must have been the inspiration for Tarantinos Kill Bill wedding
Tombstone, Arizona, USA. A real place, a real story (basically). Wyatt Earp was a notoriously ruthless cop from Dodge City, Kansas. Criminals across the country knew of Wyatt Earp and fear him. The saying "Get the hell out of Dodge!" came from criminals telling other criminals about Wyatt, and to stay away from Dodge City. True story.
There’s quite a few well known cowboys/ western genre actors in this. Sam Elliott lots, the Hacketts, the quick and the dead, the shadow riders, you know my name. the ranger, the cook and the whole in the sky. (Which is a precursor to the movie, a river runs through it). Consgher, 1883, the big Lebowski. Charlton Heston: will penny, the savages, the big country. Buck Taylor.. he played turkey creek jack johnson in tombstone. He was a long time fixture of tv’s Gun Smoke, also in the Hacketts, and in the movie, He’ll or High Water. Fred White was played by Harry Carey jr. He was in, last stand at saber river, and nine other westerns alongside John Wayne. (Also he’s in the movie, they still call me trinity). Funny westerns: they call me trinity, and trinity is still my name, with Terrance Howard. Nothing to do either tombstone. Harry Carey jr’s father was Harry Carey sr. Who first appeared as an actor, in a western in 1908. Western genre royalty. Nothing related to tombstone either. I understand this is a long post but, the more you know, the less you don’t.
An insight into this rendition of the the Earps and Holliday... holiday had codependency disorder. His life didn't matter, but protecting Wyatt was far above his own preservation.
If you haven’t already seen it, I would recommend “Quigley Down Under,” starring Alan Rickman and Tom Selleck. It is set in Australia, of course, during the wild-west days of your country, so I think you would really appreciate it.
Oooh I'm definitely partial to some Rickman and It'd be awesome to see an Aussie western! Thank you for the suggestion!!
@@MovieJoob You’re very welcome! I agree that Rickman is a superb actor, Jade. He plays villainous characters so convincingly - he’s the bad guy everyone loves to hate! (As you know, it isn’t really Christmas until Hans Gruber falls from Nakatoomi Tower!)
@@MovieJoob I know a lot of gunslingers and outlaws ran off to Australia when the west became more tame. There is a romantic conception of the west at that time a lot of people had trouble moving past and the criminals were often the last to accept it and moved on to avoid it altogether.
@MovieJoob for Aussie Westerns there's also Ned Kelly with a young Heath Ledger and Orlando Bloom
Love it; you have great range in your taste and as your nearly 70 thousand subscribers are finding out...Jade is your huckleberry.
Awww thank you so very much that is so kind!! Yes I love a variety of styles of storytelling including with my games on my gaming channel! 😊
Another excellent reaction. I love the emotion, it's real. Just so you know though, Doc's actions would have been the same if he was healthy. It wasn't because he figured he was dying anyway. It's because that's the kind of man he was.
Tombstone is real and this is "based" on a true story. Tombstone still exists as a tourist attraction and small town. I've been there several times in the last few years. It's awesome.
There are two movies I saw every weekend during its theatrical run.
This and The Crow. Amazing films!
In the "very cosmopolitan" scene, the shooting WAS legal and "law and order". Allow me to educate. "Turkey Creek" Jack Johnson who shot the other man, didn't shoot him because "he crawfished a bet and called him a liar". That's only his explanation of how it started. He shot the other man because he warned him "don't raise that arm, I don't wanna shoot you" and he did anyway. Clear cut self defense. Law and order.
I love the movie and I've been to the town of tombstone 2 times. I got to see the reenactment of the shootout one of the times.
Oh that's awesome!! Is it a populated town? Or mostly people who visit it?
@@MovieJoob it's a ghost town except for just a very few people and mostly the people who work the little shops.
Great reaction as usual. Keep in mind this was based on actual events. The gunfight at the OK Corral is re-enacted in Tombstone to this day.