The oak beam end challenge
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- This is the oak beam challenge where I teach my apprentice Ed to form an ovolo beam end in a large section of green oak beam, I use methods that I was taught at college in the nineteen eighties !!
This is a super satisfying job to do using basic hand tools and patience, please have a go of this and send me your pictures
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Loved this. The process isn’t rocket science but you really remove the mystery from it. It’s all about having a process and setting yourself up from start to finish to not fail, building on top of the last step. Maybe it took you an hour, it’d take me three but it’s a tiny investment for the satisfaction of looking at it for decades afterwards and knowing it was done right!!!
as a joiner myself i love working on site, all the time my cup of tea goes freezing because i loose track of time and recently when i went away for a few days for the Jubilee weekend i was looking at all the architecture like roofs and all sorts of building work in the town i stayed in
You cracked me up when you said oh I can’t say that, you just about caught yourself 🤣🤣🤣
Little tip for you Robin ,, get a dust sheet folded up on a bench or floor and place all the Sharp tools on it then they can't fall on the floor 👍
I was cringing watching that block plane rock about on the other beam and that was after the impact driver and chisel fell off ,, great channel by the way 😉
Fantastic watching you handcraft it. Yes, routers & other equipment are useful for efficiency, but if one wants to really soak in the pleasure, this is it. Thanks Robin. 👏👏👍
This is top draw stuff, Ed your a very lucky man getting this knowledge and given the time to do it on the job. Brilliant and brilliant again
I am very lucky and definitely know it! Hoping to keep the skill alive for another generation
I could not agree more. There must be 1000's of Carpenter/Builders that would do anything to get the chance to work with Robin Clevett, the master craftsman he is. Lucky lucky man 👍👌
A true craftsman doing things the way it was done before power tools became the quick and easy fix. Ed is lucky to have someone like you Robin who takes the time to show him 'the way' and then you give him a chance to put it into practice. I am looking forward to seeing him apply the craft.
I feel its my duty to share my knowledge to all and especially Ed, he has been with me for only 1 year and his skills are super impressive, watching him progress brings me lots of happiness and I know that he will go on to pass this knowledge on when the time is right!!
Excellent Robin. You genuinely love carpentry and your enthusiasm makes for great vlogs 👏👏👏
That’s a hard act to follow!
Fantastic to watch you work doing something that clearly gives you so much pleasure.
Great stuff Robin.
Lovely work Robin. Great to see. I've just spent the day flattening 3 boards around 2.8M long, maybe 30cm wide. All by hand. It's a great workout and something I enjoy. It's for a table for the in-laws, so something I can take a bit of time on. My father in-law found the timber in his shed, so it's a little bit worse for wear! A couple of bowties added for cracks and some entire sections replaced because of rot (scarfing in the new bits), but otherwise it's in okay nick. It's a great way to pass a few hours with some sharp tools!
Great to see you at it again Robin, I know what your saying about being in the zone.. Its a great feeling doing woodwork I can just switch off very teriputic in a way one carpenter to another...
On you go Ed, give it a lash! 👍👍
Hi Robin can I see what an absolute pleasure it is to see a fellow carpenter taking pride in the work
Great video, looking forward to Ed having a go at his beam. Any you apprentice should learn good hand tool work, it gives a great feel for what your doing. Great teaching video Robin clevett 👌👏
Watching you work your magic is also a mindful and very enjoyable experience, cheers lads, great work 👏😀👍
What a lucky young bloke to be taught by you Robin. I wish I had someone like you to teach and mentor me during my Apprenticeship. Look forward to seeing how young Ed goes on his Carpentry Apprenticeship.
What a absolute fantastic video robin..you definitely can't teach passion 👌 you've got it in spades 👍👍
Awesome I like the mix of stuff you put out robin it doesn’t all have to be about maximum efficiency production. Being comfortable with hand tools will transfer through to the finished quality of the job 👍🏻
You’re an absolute pleasure to watch Robin , young Ed , doesn’t realise how lucky he is to have you as his mentor, keep the great work up 👍👍
What a lovely job mate. Stunning result!
very satisfying Robin , good job
I cried when I saw your other chisel hit the deck!
I know!! When there is a camera pointing towards me I tend to miss things that I would see automatically normally!!
Great video as usual. With the timber shortage (hard to believe we import 80%), I think a small number of builders should be looking at milling some of their own timber with something like a portable Lucas Mill. Rather than having to take it to be cut elsewhere you do it on the spot. I was in Norfolk recently and after a big storm could see at least 50 trees down on the estate where my mate lives. Some of the smaller (up to 18" diameter) stuff will be cut for firewood but most of the larger stuff is left to rot. That's great for biodiversity, but a lot of it could be milled and used productively.
Amazing how similar the process is to carving stone....which is more my go to material!
Yes. It is.
Truly delightful video and the time just FLEW by ..... Your passion shines thru and you have a huge gift of making things special and unique. Hope you are having a perfect week so far
Thank you Thor!!! my week is great hope yours is too
Can't think of a better way to start Sunday morning....Thanks R
Great to see hand tool techniques being used, and you being in the zone. Have you seen the TH-cam video kiguminoie about the building of a Japanese house for a family in 2018\19? A beautiful film and some great carpentry and the biggest mallets I’ve ever seen. Given what you said about you and your wife on holiday, I think she would have to drag you away.
I will check that out!!
Another cracking vid Rob! Just three things to say mate.
Firstly, ref throw away saws, I remember when they came in, around mid to late seventies. Prior to that , most chippys would have at least three saws on site. Panel saw, cross cut and a tenon saw. All of which would frequently require sharpening with the old saw clamp, (made by themself ) saw set and triangular file! The old blokes used to say they`d never use that cheap throwaway rubbish but guess what, within three years they when they realised how many hours they spent sharpening saws they were all using them ! Also, many used to leave the front tooth on their old saws longer so they could use it to pick up small pieces of timber, did you do that?
Secondly, you`re spot on about oak. It`s like concrete and continues to age harden. I once worked around Stratford on Avon and Henley in Arden ( Shakespear`s country ) and there`s many old properties from the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries still in use today. Cutting pipe chases in the old joists was a right job, it took hours and drilling pilot holes for fixings was a nightmare, the drills kept snapping!
And thirdly, never say "whack it off" it has quite a different meaning to all the Americans watching ;)
Crack on mate, you`re doing the lord`s work !
Love this comment!! Thank you!
@@ukconstruction Never stop saying "whack it off" :) they'll figure it out. Besides I miss the British colloquial vernacular.
@@ukconstruction Cheers mate, maybe comment on the other version of the ovalo, concave instead of convex?
And did you leave your front tooth long? You never said !
Excellent handwork 👍 like that process 👏
Love it when you get all in deep and romantic about your trade! Exactly why this type of video is my favourite. Really satisfying to watch and that passion just flows through the video 👍🏻
Thank you Chris, I do appreciate your comment, it's only carpentry but... these moments are time to reflect and appreciate what we have and how lucky we are to be able to have a job that we enjoy and the physical ability to do it.
@@ukconstruction spot on mate ❤️
Thanks for another awesome tip Robin
Love the work but I’d be tempted to use a belt sander instead but keep the templates on as a guide and check it every so often with a sliding square for flatness. Just how I’ve always done bull noses
Ps I’m not taking anything away from robin or saying he’s doing it wrong
You spoke of your teachers as your lecturers, and they’re doing their carpentry upstairs. Let’s hope they have watched some of your vids on how to do lovely staircases. If u have have ever watched P&P, u will remember “there r many staircases at Rosings Park.” Incidentally, a couple of evenings with the Mrs. and some hot chocolate watching Pride and Prejudice will probably totally redeem u. I have really loved my half hour with my fave lecturer, and some coffee. And am very glad u r still with us in the flesh. “The Big Build” has been inspiring, and I really enjoy the time with my chippy mate. How is the pool doing? Any chance we may get a tour of the pool and the equipment? Although I am very content with the time u give us and not complaining. Thank u!!
I was taught to use the side of a hammer if you don`t have a mallet at hand, less chance of hitting the back side of your thumb, 53 years old, started out when i was 13
Super job. 👌
Looks the part and no doubt perfect. I still reckon the easiest way to work Oak is a chainsaw. With a pencil guide line I could free hand that in minutes. Clean up with a belt sander done. Tenons, Mortices, Sweeps all pretty easy with a chainsaw. But then I was matching Century old barns usually not a modern take on an old building. Very versatile tool. In my area we have a lot of wood cutting shows. The lumberjacks showing off their skills. From forestry tests to carving. Amazing to watch. As you walk past the carvers you see all different animals appearing from a stump. Indian Chiefs with all the headress. Somebody's dog from a photo. Wedgetailed eagle with out spread wings. How about a big hawks head on each side or a couple of bears. Now that would look different.
I met all your lecturers during my pre-apprenticeship. We had to learn a few trades in the first eight weeks. Useful, I learned to solder pipes etc.
The carpentry lecturers were a nice bunch.
I wish I had done carpentry instead of messing around with those bloody clay things! Oh well, I do get to do a bit of carpentry these days.
That was a lovely video Robin, all the mouldings go so far back in history. The Greeks taught us so much about proportions.
Talking of which, the top squared part seems to be about twice as thick as the bottom, is there a rule regarding that?
Hi Harvey, it's always good to hear from you mate, especially as we where at the same college!! The margins of the ovolo are up to the carpenter, our last rafter sits right on the end of the beam so I like to make sure that the birdsmouth sits neatly and fully over that point, glad to know that you a doing some carpentry!! Let me know if you have any roof construction coming up I will jump on it with you!!
Have a good day mate
@@ukconstruction I am not far from you, near Gatwick so you never know!
I notice you have a lovely round maul with your tools in the video, I use one and just love it. I did however listen to Paul Sellers and buy a Thor soft and hard face mallet. Thor 712R. Treat yourself, I can't put the bloody thing down, Mr. Sellers uses his for his chisels which I do sometimes but I use it for 101 things.
Those saw horses would drive me mad the way they move …. Great work though
Nice work!
And when you finished all that get the grinding wheel out a put a new edge on the chisel that fell onto the block paving 😂😂 nice work
I would have used a router with a flush trim bit on both sides, then finish with a chisel.
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Absolutely love your videos Robin! I've been working in retail for 16 years but i''d love to start a career in carpentry/construction. Any advice on how I could make the move?
Great video Robin. what are your thoughts of using a Surform blade to help smooth the timber considering how hard Oak can be. keep the videos coming.
Them stalls even broke my heart Robin, but you got there 👌
They where rocking and rolling like crazy!!! I wedged one of my timber ones next to it to stabilise!!!!
@@ukconstruction remember shaking Stevens, well that shaking shavings 😂.
Gotta say - there's nothing like grassroots carpentry.. Something primeval about it 😍, you just don't get that with today's "systems" & shit.
Magnificent
Hi Robin, the standard of craftsmanship is top notch, as always. Will you arras the edges before you put the beam up? Cheers Vandy.
Hi Vandy, we will ease the edges and also add some stopped chamfers on the main seen edges, I will show what it looks like when it's finished soon
@@ukconstruction Thanks for the reply, Robin. I should have known that there was more detail to come. I'll look forward to seeing it as I love the craftsman/post and beam construction style and look forward to seeing Ed have a crack, I'm sure he will do a grand job. 👍
How old do you think the tree was , ? Brilliant to know it will be used for the next two hundred years or so , love your videos , from plumber Steve
Hi mate cracking vid as always 😃 update on the framing square and latch jig?
i once watched a documentry on marco pierre white at oxford uni... and he described raymond blanc greatest palate of all... i think your in the same bracket robin as the great raymond blanc..
Thanks Derren!!!
19:20 :( Great video!
I miss the ring of the 25oz estwing.
Excuse the ignorance but is it worth waxing or oiling the oak before it’s is put into situ or best to let it ‘age’ ?.
Great to see, but could you have used a 3 inch long router bit from both sides ??
I have done this in an earlier video that I reference in the video
@@ukconstruction thanks, missed that bit.
Lovely work Robin, are you going to put a finish on it?
No leave it natural to silver down, very rarely do we coat the green oak
cut it square neatly and spend a few minutes putting a nice chamfer on it is about as fancy as my carpentry gets
Just out of curiosity, would a paring chisel have helped you in any way?
Yours
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Hi Ross, I only have my regular site chisels and i try to keep them nice and sharp, I have a nice set of Japanese chisels that where gifted to me but these are set aside for gentle work!! Maybe I should try some paring chisels!!
Little n large.
What was the cost of the green oak as a matter of interest?
The pile that you saw shown briefly late in the video, about 7 peices was about £500
Ed, get a flappy wheel, you will do it in half of the time.
Are you 3 feet tall ?
This was either filmed a coupla' three months ago.....................or you've got a lot of dead trees!
Yes mate!!
I was going to ask the same thing, not that it matters
Typical swing they make that noise
Whose poverty spec Citroen is that? Hope the Merc and fancy number plate haven't gone.
That belongs to my mate!!! My Merc is parked nearby!!!
If rob is 6ft tall then I’m a male model 😅
Don't get this at Persimmon .
Well hopefully the carpenters that do the work for Persimmon can do it if asked!!
Experts in pvc only !
is that your son?
No, I have a daughter!!
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Awful lot of work, there. I think I'd follow the template with a router to cut it an inch or so deep on each side, rough out the wood between the router cuts with a chisel, and finish it up with a power plane.
I have previously done this exact job at The Big Build with a router... video on channel and the whole purpose of this video was to show how we where taught to do it by hand as explained in the video
Can I get a reply please 🖤
Hello!!
@@ukconstruction you’re such an inspiration, would love to be like you one day 🖤
@@ukconstruction thanks for the reply 🖤