I like my Pagani watches. Alot of watch for the money. Stainless steel. Ceramic bezel insert. Saphire crystal. Seiko nh35 movement. Pagani has great , great watches. Just my opinion.
Mine has been faultless. The best value watch on the market. Seiko movement. Sapphire,ceramic. Soild bracelet with screws. I have been impressed with it for over a year now .Just my take on it .
I'm glad you're happy with it you are part of the 50% club because 50% of the people here in the comments have had the same exact experience with them that I have
@userxuserx dilligaf besides I don't know how you could see that I don't even see that in my analytics and I don't give a fuk how many people don't like it the facts are the facts and some people that are retarded and have convinced that they bought something of quality when it's in all actuality a giant piece of s***well they can keep on floating down the river of denial it doesn't make a difference to me I'm just here to tell the truth and especially in this day and time and especially in this damn time where people can't even admit there are only two genders bunch of snowflake ass mother f******get butthurt over watches and everything else LMAO 🤣🤣 have a good day
@userxuserx I just went into my analytics seems like you added a zero it's 326 likes to 145 dislikes so I have no idea where you're getting the thousand from and to be perfectly honest it took me a second to figure out how to pull it up in my analytics but that is as per TH-cam and I have no problem putting up a screenshot
@userxuserx well according to TH-cam analytics it is 325 likes to 145 dislikes and that's all info I can go off of I've never heard of whatever site you were claiming again I have to say I feel like I've been generous by saying is 50/50 according to the stats from TH-cam it's 69% agree while 31% disagree
Got 2 Pagani watches, Speedy black dial and Daytona white dial homages both with Seiko VK63 movements. Both run perfect but changed the straps, Milanese on Speedy and Brown leather on Daytona which improved the looks IMO. I cannot be happier with both purchases.
The manual says to put the time to 6:30 before you make any adjustments such as date exedra. The downfall is you risk damage to the internals if you do not adjust accordingly.
Nobody's upset about affordable watches that are good quality however Pagani design does not make good quality watches at least not in my opinion the mathematics here for my point I totally support anybody that would like to buy a Kronos a San Martin or a suggess if you bother to go and look at all the rest of my videos you will see that just about every video on my channel is of a brand that is not Rolex
I have the PD1701 V3 and I simultaneously Love and Hate the watch, if that's even possible. I love it as a weekend wear. It has the Speedmaster styling I like, it has twice the water resistance of a Speedy. It comes with a sapphire crystal, a ceramic bezel insert, decent case finishing and a Seiko Mecha Quartz movement. The bracelet, while having some sharp edges, is suprisingly solid and well finished. Over all, it's a great watch to wear in situations where I don't want to wear my actual Bulova Lunar Pilot (Sorry Omega, I'm not spending $6K on a Speedy, and the MoonSwatch is insulting when placed side by side with the Pagani) What is infuriating about the watch is it keeps better time than my Bulova Lunar Pilot which is operating at 8 times the oscillation of the Pagani. The Lunar Pilot is several times more expensive than the Pagani, and yet performs worse. And I can't blame Bulova, because the Lunar Pilot is in spec. It's just that that the Seiko movement that came in my Pagani is insane. When you see what Pagani is offering for less than a Benjamin, it's easy to get angry at the entire watch industry. When Seiko doesn't put a sapphire crystal on anything under $500.00, you have to ask why. When a swiss watch company expects you to pay over $250.00 on a plastic watch with a shoddy movement because Omega printed their name on it, you have to ask why. Pagani Design is not losing money. They are in fact rolling in it, while offering these watches at such low prices. This tells you simply just how much "traditional" watch makers are gouging you for. Even those who focus on "affordable" watches, like Seiko, Tissot, and Citizen, price their products way above what you get a Pagani design for. Say what you will about them. They specialize in the "homage" market. But behind the "homage" is typically a surprisingly good watch at a hard to beat price point.
Beautifully explained. A smartphone with the most insane engineering and technology costs around 1000 to 1500 usd. A wristwatch that comes with archaic tech and engineering compared to smartphones costs more than twice or thrice.This pricing is not at all realistic.
No but I can expect basic levels of quality from a basic ass watch just like this one to me functioning correctly is a basic quality so is not falling apart right out of the box within 48 hours and like I said the permanent links not simply screws backing out but the permanent links fell apart
Seen you coming lol 250 you get these watches for 150 max 120 is enough to pay for there automatic watches with Seiko's movent NH35 or A version lol or any Seiko movement for that matter 🤪 rest are shite maybe go modify a watch yourself can get the movement to fit the case get a good stainless steel case ceramic bezel for 50 euros or less get a nice movement to suit your case and face right tools or the right watch fixer can put it all together your style your tastes your movement of choice your uniqueness 150 to sky's the limits as long as you have the cash 100% suits ones personality the colours design movement is unlimited you can buy a swiss movement as well as low end movements or just by a reliable San Martin and cut the bullshite 🤭🤣😂 some bollocks for reading my posts 🤪🤣😂 but thanks 🤭 Christmas beers merry Christmas cxxts have an enjoyable holidays . But my rant is right 😉
I have a ton of their watches, and I have found some models are excellent, some are decent, and quite a few are cheap. I have had one DOA. I got all of my money back on the DOA. I got it fixed at a watch repair place for $35.00. They offer a huge range of models. I have had two DOA’s with SteelDive. One got the money back and replaced the NH35 movements. Never had any issues with Sugess, SM, Cronos, or any other brands.
@@MrAl67how did you complain about your watch, I am happy with the watch, bracelet but the clasp is useless falls open all the time doesn't latch at all.
I bought a Meibo cheap-as-shit submariner homage for $4.49 lol. From Temu. It works great! At quick glance, it looks like a Rolex. And I get just was much respect, and attention from the ladies as a real Rolex, which is zero! and I'm saving $30,000 ha!
I have over 15 Pagani Design watches all types from Divers like yours (I have three of them) Auto and Quartz - and never had a single issue with any of them so it does indeed look like its an Individual experience issue - might be where you get them from ?? maybe Amazon is getting them in cheap as they are Known items that are not passing the QC ?? - mine were purchased directly from China - arrive in a few weeks and are great...
Well flanker I'm glad that you have had excellent luck some of these were ordered off of AliExpress some off of Amazon but if you scroll down through the comments here on this video you'll see it is not just me like a lot of people have had issues but I'm glad that you have been very fortunate and are enjoying your watches
I have not had any issues with the two I own and will be purchasing another, because you get so much for your dollar and I own Invicta Automatic divers also and the Padani is my favorite of the two brands. 😊
I can't speak to the quality of their mechanical watches, but I have two of their quartz watches with Japanese movements and I am totally impressed by them. The quality of the finishing, alignments, printing etc., is excellent. No complaints here. In fact they exceed my expectations and I would buy more without hesitation.
I have heard the quartz stuff is better but they have blown it with me personally I am glad to hear you are happy with your purchases but if you think pagani's are good get a Sugess or San Martin night and day difference in quality
Sugess seaman with nh35a went on sale you can get for around $175 $180 so that's nowhere near three to five times the price that's double and you get double the quality San Martin sn0117 with nh35a $117 on sale again nowhere near three to five times that's even less than double so I don't know maybe you need to go back and work on your math and since Pagani design doesn't even offer a true 28,800 beats per hour movement they can't even compete on that level of the three to five times level because all the ones that cost three to five times have a pt5000 or SW 200 so let's compare apples to apples here
Okay nobody's saying 35a is better the point is anything with nh35a is comparable to what pagani sells so when comparing prices you need to compare watches with comparable movements the point you try to make was that San Martin's and suggess are three to five times the price and what I'm pointing out is that all the ones that are three to five times the price have a high beat movement so the bottom line is when you compare the Pagani watches to the better watches offered on aliexpress.com that come with an nh35a the very slight difference in price is well worth the extra quality you get
I absolutely love my Pagani (Air King homage). It is my daily farm watch. I beat the living hell out of it. I can't wear a real Rolex living in a third world country for theft concerns. I pitched the bracelet for a 5$ nato strap. LOVE IT
I'm glad that it is treating you well if you don't mind me asking which part of the world are you in exactly? what kind of farming do you do? It's the air king a automatic or quartz?
I got DD40 and DJ41 homages from Pagani and my main complains are badly aligned dials/date wheels/cyclops, and sharp bracelets. No mechanical issues to date, though, but they all have TMI NH35 or NH36 movements. The alignment issues I tried to fix by myself but found it beyond my expertise to do a proper job, so they're staying misaligned. The bracelets are just like every other Chinese bracelet I've got: they need elbow grease, so I bought a cheap Aliexpress nail polisher tool to grind, sand, and polish them. For the money I paid, I'm not complaining.
I got rid of all my Pagani watches. I didn’t really have any problems but while the quality is decent for the price, they just lack the final finishing like a SanMartin.
Reading over reviews online, it seems like they have an issue with automatics. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that some issue with the watches not working properly might be do to shipping. I've never transported watches to a jewelry store before, but I doubt they toss it in the back of an Amazon truck and hope for the best. This doesn't seem to be an issue with watches using Seiko internal parts. Which makes sense. The wrist strap, I'm not surprised. All the attention went to the actual time piece itself. I can get a new strap at the mall. Not a deal breaker. It seems to be hit or miss, with the biggest issue being the strap for the wrist, and the second most common issue being the automatic movement, which I think is a combination of quality and shipping. That being said. Automatics, whether Swiss made or Chinese made, need to be serviced eventually. And I believe you also want to set the date with the watch at a certain time to avoid damaging the movement.
@@mr.eswatchreviews everyone knows pagani has less than ideal QC so it's hit and miss, I guess even a trustworthy movement can be compromised by the person who installed it.
Yeah honestly I did not have anything against Pagani design until it dawned to me that mathematically speaking it was a 75% failure rate as far as what I had received then I kept hearing all these stories from other people so if you get a good one it's a great deal if not it is what it is lol buyer beware is my best advise
I returned the Batman they sent a second one I had to use both of them in order to make one good watch as for the Kermit once I got that and I had a problem with it I just didn't feel dealing with it at the time is early in my collection I felt like I could just live with it at the time as for the Pepsi that was given to me buy a viewer but basically when you have multiple watches that have all had a problem and they keep wanting to send you another watch instead of refund the money and be perfectly honest the damn watches are so cheap the shipping is more than the watch is worth especially when dealing with AliExpress however the three I ordered were all through Amazon and trying to get the first one exchanged with such huge pain in the ass when the second one had a problem I just didn't feel like going through the same shit
I read the reviews on Amazon and people love their Pagani watches. Rolex are great, but $20K for the watch, then $1200 to service them every 5 to 10 years. Plus, many Rolex watches are dropping over $5K in value right now.
@JohnBowl14690 yes but Rolex is still 20% over original MSRP on the most popular stuff solid gold and two tone can be gotten for less than MSRP on the gray market yeah Amazon deletes bad reviews lol so take that with a grain of salt and it's your money do what you want but Sugess San Martin Cronos steeldive all are way better options for just a little more money
To be honest, the new ones are a lot better. And remember to always buy the ones with he nh35 movements or the seiko quartz ones. But i prefer addiesdive/steeldives for the same money.
Yeah unfortunately all of these are like just at a year old or less and other than the gmts the others are supposed to have nh35 but as the Kermit behaves differently than the James Cameron I would say they have two different types of movements at any rate the numbers just don't support buying one when you get basically four out of five watches having some kind of major issue and I'm just one person the statistics suggest there are major flaws in the line it's either that or I'm just super unlucky lol
Yeah it's not like I just jumped to this conclusion it just dawned on me recently I mean you can go back and look at several of my other videos I'm not that critical on the pagani's but after thinking about it it done to me that the stats are not good lol
I have the same one the guy donated to you. The Pepsi looking one. It done the same thing, mine was branded Haqin. It would run when it wanted. It would randomly stop. I took the movement apart and cleaned it. It had hair and dirt, look like it was built in a dusty strip club. I cleaned it up and put a bit of lube on it. It will run now. But it’s still terrible at timekeeping. About 2 minutes fast a day. It has the DG5833GMT movement which is known to be terrible. I’m thinking of trying to put a NH34A movement in it. If I can source parts and can get all 4 hands to regulate. Or I might just throw it away 😅
I have the pagani 1664, it's a quartz movement and I got it on the rubber strap, it's been fantastic. From all the other reviews I watched it seems like majority of the issues are with the bracelet, or the non seiko movements.
So far I’ve got two Pegani’s, and I’ve had no issues at all. I plan to buy some more Pegani’s at a later stage. You do get a lot of watch for the money.
I own 3 a regular 200m diver and a Batman and a Pepsi but I’ve bought mine right from Pagani store I think the amazon ones may be returns ?? I don’t know if buying direct helps but I have owned mine for several yrs and never had an issue maybe I just got lucky or not but yeah I don’t have any idea. I do wish the bezel turned a bit harder as it does turn fairly easily but my regular diver does everything my steinhart does and I am not comparing Pagani to steinhart in anyway shape or form but buying from Pagani direct are better
Good for you now scroll down through these comments and see where at least half of the people have had s***results so consider yourself very lucky that you've gotten decent results
I look at judging a watch on the bracelet like judging an entire house on the carpet. It's just supposed to get you started but you're supposed to upgrade it later.
@@mr.eswatchreviews No doubt. My comment was more general towards bracelet issues than Pagani. I just got a 1692 and for $85 if it shits out then fuck it, I'll get a San Martin.
Well Terry I will say that it seems like you were one of the very fortunate ones as you can just scroll through the comments down below and see how many other people other than myself are having issues I do however hope that they continue to work well for you so you can keep enjoying have a good day buddy
You actually dont want to buy the GMT movements only. The other watches have the seiko NH35 movement but the GMT Paganis have their own in house quesrionable movements. The non gmt watches work just fine. I have one which is running for the last 4 years and going great
Lol😂 yes I owned 9 Paganis and sold all 8. I didn’t know the issues about them. I sold them and used the little money I received for a Hamilton Field Khaki. Only the Mission to Alaska chronograph I kept. 😂
I have the same watch my problem was with the bracelet. It was a headache two different jewelry stores for the bracelet. When it was fixed the bracelet was still a pain. Finally put it on a Black NATO strap now it’s a great gym watch.
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard I actually I've heard dumber instead I think I'll just buy the other brands on AliExpress that actually have good bezel action
For me, PD watches look good enough and perform well enough for the money, I don't expect them to be some over the top quality watch at this level of asking money. Maybe my expectations of this brand are just low and I accept them for what they are. They are not collector level watches, but they aren't Benyar or whatever level quality either. They are kinda utilitarian in my view and will be replaced eventually. If my band messes up, I'll replace it without a 2nd thought or I repair it with some thread locker, as for my experience of 5 or so in my own collection, they are holding up and working fine. The NH35a is not gonna be some high level smooth movement, if winding feels like crap in it, just replace the movement for dirt cheap yourself. If the watch gets replaced by Amazon and you got a replacement, then just be happy it got replaced and you didn't get stuck with a non-runner... but again, the movement is so cheap, one can just replace it and move on and not buy the brand again, keeping in mind with the higher end affordable brands, you'll still get (most likely) the same movement, but maybe they at least have a cleaner factory and less debris in the movements or something and finishing will probably more to ones expectations. Thanks for the video and your opinion. We all need both sides of the stories to be able to make educated purchases for ourselves.
I understand and what I'm saying is that the other affordable brands on AliExpress you get way more for your money steeldive Kronos San Martin and Sugess all offer way better quality watches for just a little bit more money the other companies also offer these with nh35a nh34A PT 5000 and sw200 movements and no I did not expect absolute perfection out of these watches when I first got them I thought they were pretty good however once I bought more and more watches from AliExpress to view on the channel it became blatantly obvious the deficiencies of Pagani design and if you look on my channel you will find the video where I modified the Pepsi and change the dial hands and movement unfortunately all those parts cost me as much as that watch brand new assembled but since you're going in there you might as well make it the way you want and for myself personally I will not be wasting any more time or money with Pagani design I already know for a fact I would much rather spend an extra 30 to $50 and get a watch that I don't have to do nothing to and will last even longer than the Pagani thank you for watching hopefully you subscribed I'm not here to bash anybody I'm just here to tell the truth and tell it like it is and just like I said in the video it just dawned on me one day that I had gotten four watches myself personally and the other one was from another viewer who bought it brand new and had issues immediately so for my personal experience 4 out of 5 watches being bad is not odds that I am willing to take I am glad that you have had good luck and I hope you continue to enjoy them
I have a Pagani PD-1728 white dial no issues , I hope you know some Pagani are automatic watches , but I just ordered a mini focus & the crown was broken so I feel your pain
Before buying please go check out my other videos I would strongly suggest if you're looking for a Submariner homage there are multiple other brands that are just slightly more expensive but the quality is leaps and bounds better and if you want to save yourself a whole lot of headache the ginault ocean Rover 2 is hands down the best Submariner homage on the market however it comes with like an 1800.00 price tag but if you're trying to stay on the more affordable end I would suggest steeldive Cronos Sugess or San Martin and I have review videos of all of them on my channel
You must have some pretty freaky bad luck, man. I've got nine PD watches and haven't even had one issue. And I've got watches from this sort of price all the way up to my 30th birthday Rolex. No complaints here. 👍
I'm happy for you sir if you read the comments here you will see it's about 55% of people are having issue 45% are not so a higher than average out come for some type of quality control problem I find steeldive is a better option
@@mr.eswatchreviews It perhaps depends on the source too - I buy direct from the PD website. Yes, I have a couple of Steeldives as well - solid watches. 👍
I have two ive got the gmt and the air king homage . Both i only bought because they were on sale ( £42 and £64 for gmt)and both had the NH 35/34 movements. I don't trust the chinese movements they have in some watches. Both have been very good. Only problem was bit of tight links on the airking but with some vigorous manipulation it's softened up and fine now.. And was a bit sharp so I used some wet and dry on the edges. The gmt has a jubilee style braclet that's been fine from the start. Both beautiful watches working correctly. I would buy another if on sale and with the Japanese NH35 movements. Good value for what you get.. but there is room for improvement with the finish. I have invictas I would say Pagani is slightly better quality overall.
My pagani watch (rolex explorer homage) stops every 2nd day. I wear it all day on hand and go out a lot, but the mechanism just doesn't hold. I need to re-wind it once in 2 days, like it's not an automatic but a manual. I opened the back case and everything look good from inside, everything moved. Seems that the mechanism just stops when it wants...
@@mr.eswatchreviewswas that gmt a NH34 or the pearl movement? I have a San martin world timer with a Seiko NH34 that stops too. Just wondering if there was a NH34 design problem - although unlikely since it's just a nh35 movement with one additional complication, but you never know.
I got my PAGANI Batman GMT today. I got it knowing what I’m getting into, no expectations. I own a few Heimdallr, SteelDive, Phoibos, and I love each and everyone. This watch looks good, and has good specs. The bracelet is definitely junk, I had to be very careful adjusting it because some of the screws would not budge. The bezel has very minimal back play and side to side play. Rotation is very loose, in comparison. Time keeping accuracy remains to be seen, but thus far it is on time. If it dies on me I’ll use it for parts and practice. But, in the end I would not recommend it. If you’re on a budget, get yourself a G-Shock, or maybe a SteelDive, or a Heimdallr. Sugess’ are on the pricier side of the spectrum but also a good choice.
I ordered a Pagani on a whim from Ali, but hated the watch when I got it. The bracelet was too shiny, it looked really cheap, like a watch you win at a fair or in an arcade hall. Also I have no clue how to size the bracelet, the holes are incredibly small and I don't have the tools to set it right. So I decided to return it, but the shop where I bought it denied it was ordered at their shop and refused to let me send it back. That was bummer number one. On top of that I then saw I paid almost double the cheapest price for it, other shops had the same watch at a much cheaper price. So not only I paid way too much for a watch that looks like a piece of trash, I wasn't even able to return it. Or wear it (if I wanted to). Last time for me, I will just stick to San Martin watches.
I have 4 Paganis and have had no problems with any of them. My bezel action is decent on all of them. I don’t dive and strictly use my watch to tell time. If I need to time something I use my phone. If the bezel lines up and the action is crappy, I flat out don’t care! The only time I’ve ever rotated any of my bezels was when I first got the watch.
Well I'm glad that you're okay with mediocre quality control as long as you're happy with the watch man that's all that really matters I was just pointing out that statistically a 75% failure rate to one individual is not acceptable much less across the board
I love my pagani gmt batman, the only time its off my wrist is to change the date, I've had it five years and its always been a good timekeeper, it does gain a little bit over a month, but i can live with that considering what i paid for it
I have 11 of their watches and only have one problem with one which is like you said the crown comes out. It doesn’t pop. I just deal with it in a way that you would deal with $125 quality watch so my point is they’re nice watches for the price long as you take care of them.
@@chrissullivan268 and my point is for just a little bit more money you don't have to deal with none of this b*******you just get a good watch Sugess cronos San Martin Steeldive All kick the s*** out of Pagani in the quality department they are a little more expensive but they are worth it
Agree, Mr. E. I bought a PD-1758 GMT from AliExpress and the watch was dead right out of the box. Wouldn’t run after winding the piece of junk over 50x. Sent it right back. I think I’ll go for a Seiko GMT.
You have been extremely unlucky! I have 3 different models and all of them are absolutely amazing for the money. One came with slightly sharp edges on the bracelet that I had to fix with a little piece of sandpaper but other than that they are really nice. Submariner Hulk homage with nh35 for 70$ is stupid good and I love it as much as my 600$ seiko solar chrono diver... Maybe it's QC issue but I just got very lucky with all of mine.
I am very happy to hear that you've been blessed with properly working pagani's and after reading through all of the comments it seems like you got a 50-50 shot one way or the other lol 🤣🤣🤣
Well I'm happy that you've had a good experience but as I explained my position is not going to change as none of these were bought together they were all bought individually but if you really like these check out San Martin and cronos yes they cost a little bit more but you can get the same Seiko movements or even better ones like the PT 5000 or SW 200 in a little bit higher price tag a lot more quality on paper they look similar but if you have them both in your hands the other two brands blow Pagani away
I got a Pagani PD-1662 red and blue and it worked for a while and now the stem does not do anything-cannot set the time or even screw it back in. I got a Seiko NH34 watch movement to replace the junky movement that came with it. Looking for a video where someone does that!! I agree with you-they are just junk!!
You must have bad luck I have 4 soon to be 5 pagani’s and all are just about flawless only problem was my sub homage which ran a tad fast but regulated it and works perfectly fine. You got to get the nh34 movement gmt ones the pd movements are bad
I am now on my 10th Pagani. Never had a dud. All working within or better than specs. My Seamaster 300 homage runs at +1 s/d. Your mileage may vary and yes, Pagani wtches have issues, mostly the atrocious lume and sometimes the lack of AR coating, but you can't fault them for the money you have paid for. Frankly, I rather wear my PD-1701 Speedy homage than my original Speedy. The crystal is better, the bezel is better and the mechaquartz keeps time better than the Omega movement. Even the bracelet is acceptable and if you want a different one, at 20mm lug width the world is your oyster. My worst Pagani, the Explorer II homage still runs at 10 s/d. If only they would have better lume...
@@davidgrant3648 10 seconds per day, unfortunately, the Pearl movement in the Explorer II is a bit temperamental and fluctuates between -10 and +10 seconds per day.
I bought pagani BB panda for 26$ on sale as a gift to my second cousin he’s turning 20, please explain why I shouldn’t do it and what should I get instead for same budget?
For $26 I don't really have any suggestions I can make a lot of great suggestions for around $200 to $300 but basically you will find here in the comments you have the Pagani lovers and the haters like me it's genuinely about 50/50 on whether or not the watch will be any good or last any kind of time
I own about 20 PD’s……no issues except the last two recently bought on Amazon……two turds in a row…both returned and good ones sent out to replace. It is “ luck of the draw” with PD and Amazon.
You should have choosen the nh34 movement on that, those watches gmt has seiko nh34 movement options now, i love my paganis actually, all of them are seiko nh35
I have four of their watches, 3 automatics with nh35 and one quartz. They work perfectly fine but I found that it’s really a hit or miss with the bracelets, if you’re lucky it will be ok but most of the time it’s crap, some of the screws don’t even screw out and it’s very low quality. But for the price it’s worth it just don’t expect quality.
There's a newer model out that has been upgraded with the Seiko NH34 movement. I think these might be better. But they cost twice as much as the older model with the Chinese movement.
Not a fan of their Dive watches. However, I do like their Paul Newman Daytona Chronograph with the Seiko mecaquartz. I have one, and really enjoy it. It's not perfect, but should be reliable. I wouldn't swim with them either.
I own four Rolex's and a Pagani 1644 Daytona Hamoge. The Pagani works well no problem. The 1644 is my everyday watch. Not bad for $89.00. O! I aslso have eight Invictas in my collection also. I got mine the 1644 from Amazon. So!!
The Pagani Daytona homage is a quartz movement their issue is with the mechanical movements not sure what the point of you owning four rolexes is but congratulations I guess I like the Invicta pro diver I'm not much on any other watches
My pagani is very good no issues. But havingooked at many reviews I think there is a variable quality on some. My TAG aquaracer is great, so far, but it cannot watch the quality of my real tag thsts 40x more expensive
Sounds like you need a slightly longer stem on the Kermit subby, I had a problem with one of my watches and stem just a hair longer fixed the problem. Now having said that, the GMT I ordered from them came with no plastic on it missing the spring bar tool missing the polishing cloth and was covered with scratches and it was supposed to be new.
I have the original GMT And SUB from the other brand, but as walking the streets in France is becoming dangerous with expensive watches I bought 6 pagani on Ali express.. and maybe I got really lucky but beside going forward 2 minutes every 24h I have no issues so far. Yes I have had 2 links on 2 watches that needed some wd40
2 minutes per day is a terrible running watch and they shouldn't require lube so not sure I would consider that lucky go back to AliExpress get a Sugess, San Martin, or Cronos all three brands are way better by leaps and bounds
I have five pagani watches two gmt three sub, no issues at all. I always swap out the bracelets for 904L all brushed glide-lock clasp style. I did recently get burned on a Steeldive that arrived DOA, the crown would not unscrew and the movement was dead. I opened a complaint with PayPal and I don’t expect I will get a refund.
Well I'm glad you've been having luck with the paganis just so you know they just have 904 stickers on them I've bought those same bracelets they are definitely not-904 they are 316 I deal with a guy who gets the replicas from clean and vsf and even those are not 904 like they claim in the way I definitely know this is not 904 steel is three times the cost of 316 so there's no way you're getting a 904 bracelet for less than $100 it would be more like 2 to 300
Update on my DOA Steeldive. PayPal got the Steeldive store to agree to a full refund, but I have to mail the watch to a distribution center in Germany, I live in the USA. The watch I received from Steeldive came from a USA distribution center. So for me to ship the watch to Germany will cost too much. I figured that Steeldive would do this, it's a typical play when buying from Aliexpress, and has happened to my in the past. Aliexpress says they guarantee your purchase, but this is not true. I will just have to eat the cost and have a back-up Steeldive for parts ... case, bracelet, links, crystal, hands, dial. When dealing with Aliexpress it's a total crap shoot, sometimes you win, and sometime you crap out!
@@mr.eswatchreviews 904L vs 316L they are both $15, and actually 316L works better for me, I can easily use a scotch-brite to redo the brushing on the bracelet and clasp when they get scuffed.
@@johnnycarm9588 agreed 💯 the vast majority of my experiences have been positive even when I have had to do returns but I have had one or two instances where it did not work out correctly
I bought the pagani Daytona and it’s was very disappointing quality. Then I bought the pagani 1662 gmt master and it was really impressive. I’m leaving the verdict open for a while.
I've purchased 4 Paganis from Aliexpress 3 are now broken. There quality control and customer service is shocking. I am a obsessed collector and reviewer. Avoid and for a few more pounds purchase a San Martin or a steeldive.
There quality control is terrible. It's kind of a lottery really. If you get one that works as it should, you have a watch that would cost several hundred $$$/£££, if made by Seiko, Citizen, Tag Heuer etc. They have great quality control, but it's reflected in a much steeper the price of the watch.
I had the same problem with one of their bracelets. The day after I received it 2 of the screws fell out. Also had similar problems with the movement acting erratically. The brand is ok if you check over the watch with a screwdriver and tighten everything up. And only stick to their quartz range.
I unscrew all screws of any new bracelet and refit them with locktight. Started doing this after I bought a Miltat Rollball, which is a quality bracelet, that had three screws come loose. I did not expect that from a €100+ bracelet but it didn't do any damage and I did not lose the watch. It takes about ten to fifteen minutes but at least I know I'll not get any of those nasty surprises anymore.
San Martin are mid tier finishing and QC, way way above their price point. They'll give some lower end Swiss brands a good run. But they are still just clomages, fakes with different badges on.
And how would you classify Pagani design other than a clomage company except for they make s***** ones and a lot of quartz crap I mean we get it dude you are on Pagani designs nuts it's okay it's fine lol we all get it. This like your fourth comment trying to defend them so sorry the truth hurts 🤕 but why waste or even take a chance with 80 to $100 that you can put towards the suggess seaman the NH 35a driven San Martin sn0117 look you are entitled to your opinions just like we are entitled to ours
I got 4 pagani and they all 4 are working well 2 of them were bought in 2019 and they are still running pretty well. Even more acurate than my Skeiko alpinist... Maybe you didn't biught them at the right place..
I'm glad that you had a good luck these were purchased off of Amazon at least the ones I bought the one from Philo I don't know where he got it from but it was bad or the box
Just got mine yesterday. 80 bucks on alix... super disappointed. I sized it, wound it, set it, and put it on. 2 hours later, it's 10 minutes slow. I set it again, wound it 50 times, and put it on before bed.... this morning when I woke up, at 6 am, the watch said 1145pm and the date wheel was mid change. It's already on a return box.
I completely agree - but I do like the look of the watch for the price. If you can talk them into sending you a new movement and you can put it in. You can wind up with a nice watch. I've ordered two day/dates and one just stopped for no reason at all. Dead. The other one works great. I asked to return the watch but they said I had to take it to a local repair shop. Would not refund me and would not let me return. I was past my return window so I just hounded Pagani on messages until the said they would just mail me a new movement. I have all the gear to swap it so I said that would work. They use a ETA 2834-2 movement if anyone wants to buy one to repair a day/date.
Many Pagani Design reviews and some people find them to be really good and some find these watches to be excellent or just ok. I am glad to watch this review- presentation because as you are highlighting there are not just QC problems in fact it is clear that is a serous QC f….. up problem these Pagani Design shit brand.. Let’s allow the many who loves them buy them all. !!
Well you are totally entitled to your opinion but math says they are not 4 out of 5 watches with major quality control issues for those who are lucky enough to get one that's decent enough to actually work great for them however when purchasing you have about a 50-50 chance of getting something decent or shit
Unless your budget is really really bone dry, I wouldn't get a pagani design. Speaking from experience, I have a pagani design, cronos, and a sugess. Both are more than twice the price as pagani but well worth it
I love them because I buy them for cheap and many of them have little problems, which are solvable or you can live with them. And after I receive them I get a partial refund (50%). So I basically get the watches for 20-40€
@@Kristian89 I mean that hasn't been my experience whatsoever and even if somebody did do that that just means they're a huge douchebag and by the way yes I do own a real Rolex but beyond all this Pagani does make shity watches it is their quality control more than anything but there's at least half a dozen companies that make washers that look very similar to Rolex and in most cases they're watches are equally as good in what area is the lack a little bit the amount of money you save you can buy 30 of them for the price of one Rolex
I sold all my authentic luxury watches spanning from Rolex to Grand Seikos for homages. 😂 I made money from them already not that it was goal in the first place. I just like watches in general from cheap Casios to very expensive timepieces. Once people get taste of luxury, you eventually get sick of them. Also I can wear these homages anytime and if I get robbed, I’d be happy to give my $100 Pagani Design watch than my $10,000 Rolex watch. Although I only kept one of my luxury watches, my Tag Heuer F1 in quartz. Gotta have a quartz in the collection and it has sentimental value because it was my very first entry level “luxury” timepiece. I couldn’t be happier now that I got rid of my luxury timepieces plus I bought insurance for them just in case they get stolen or some other mishap. I sleep better at night now. 😂
Yeah there seems to be a running thing here that the courts ones mechanically speaking you seem to perform better it's just in my experience with all the different brands of watches that I have bought I have had the most issues out of Pagani and considering they're one of the watches that I bought the least amount of to have the most issues out of them is kind of a major statistical issue
I own a Pagani quartz 1701 and a Seiko automatic 1706. Both work fabulously. Maybe its the model or just plain bad luck but I personally am very happy with the brand.
You just started off wrong by saying "You don't want to buy a Pagani. That's the facts, that's the way it is." The fact, the way it is, is I DO want to buy a Pagani. A couple, actually.
I mean if you like throwing your money away then go for it I would recommend you get a slightly better brand like sugess or San Martin but you do what you like I'm just letting you know they wasted my money and at this point in time I don't own any of these watches anymore I've given them all away
@@mr.eswatchreviews Even if I don't like throwing my money away (which I don't). I've had a Pagani for a couple of years and it's been great. Many watch reviewers here recommend Paganis in general. But thanks for the recommendation.
@@luisalejandroacuna9879 and a lot of the watch reviewers are also being paid to which I am not I'm just here to put out the honest facts and if you read through the comments you'll see it's about roughly 50/50 maybe 60/40 on people's results with these watches is there quality control is just garbage sometimes you get good ones and sometimes you don't and unfortunately in this situation for me mathematically 4 out of 5 watches being broken or having something substantial wrong with them I mean that is just complete s*** odds I mean maybe I'm just that unlucky but I would have to say no
Go ahead and get the watch you wanna get dont listen to people telling you what what and what happened cause their experience wont be like yours. These watches come with a warranty that you can use once you have issues if any.
I mean it is what it is man if people want to buy them it's not like I'm going to be mad at them for it I'm just letting everybody know what my experience was and as far as the warranty they'll want you to pay for the shipping back if you're getting it through AliExpress and unfortunately the shipping cost as much as the watch did
I like my Pagani watches. Alot of watch for the money. Stainless steel. Ceramic bezel insert. Saphire crystal. Seiko nh35 movement. Pagani has great , great watches. Just my opinion.
Agreed 100% the quality for the price is unmatched!
agreed, just got the Pagani Hulk I love it
I own a pd 1751 , which is a Tudor ranger homage. Happy about it
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@@Elskarhenke people we are, not bots
Mine has been faultless. The best value watch on the market. Seiko movement. Sapphire,ceramic. Soild bracelet with screws. I have been impressed with it for over a year now .Just my take on it .
I'm glad you're happy with it you are part of the 50% club because 50% of the people here in the comments have had the same exact experience with them that I have
@userxuserx dilligaf besides I don't know how you could see that I don't even see that in my analytics and I don't give a fuk how many people don't like it the facts are the facts and some people that are retarded and have convinced that they bought something of quality when it's in all actuality a giant piece of s***well they can keep on floating down the river of denial it doesn't make a difference to me I'm just here to tell the truth and especially in this day and time and especially in this damn time where people can't even admit there are only two genders bunch of snowflake ass mother f******get butthurt over watches and everything else LMAO 🤣🤣 have a good day
@userxuserx I just went into my analytics seems like you added a zero it's 326 likes to 145 dislikes so I have no idea where you're getting the thousand from and to be perfectly honest it took me a second to figure out how to pull it up in my analytics but that is as per TH-cam and I have no problem putting up a screenshot
@userxuserx well according to TH-cam analytics it is 325 likes to 145 dislikes and that's all info I can go off of I've never heard of whatever site you were claiming again I have to say I feel like I've been generous by saying is 50/50 according to the stats from TH-cam it's 69% agree while 31% disagree
@userxuserx you too
Got 2 Pagani watches, Speedy black dial and Daytona white dial homages both with Seiko VK63 movements. Both run perfect but changed the straps, Milanese on Speedy and Brown leather on Daytona which improved the looks IMO. I cannot be happier with both purchases.
The manual says to put the time to 6:30 before you make any adjustments such as date exedra. The downfall is you risk damage to the internals if you do not adjust accordingly.
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People just upset poor people can have good watch with friction of most luxurious watch price
Nobody's upset about affordable watches that are good quality however Pagani design does not make good quality watches at least not in my opinion the mathematics here for my point I totally support anybody that would like to buy a Kronos a San Martin or a suggess if you bother to go and look at all the rest of my videos you will see that just about every video on my channel is of a brand that is not Rolex
Then buy a Rolex…
I already have one
@@mr.eswatchreviews 😄👍
@@mr.eswatchreviews and a Pagani… 😉
I have the PD1701 V3 and I simultaneously Love and Hate the watch, if that's even possible.
I love it as a weekend wear. It has the Speedmaster styling I like, it has twice the water resistance of a Speedy. It comes with a sapphire crystal, a ceramic bezel insert, decent case finishing and a Seiko Mecha Quartz movement. The bracelet, while having some sharp edges, is suprisingly solid and well finished.
Over all, it's a great watch to wear in situations where I don't want to wear my actual Bulova Lunar Pilot (Sorry Omega, I'm not spending $6K on a Speedy, and the MoonSwatch is insulting when placed side by side with the Pagani)
What is infuriating about the watch is it keeps better time than my Bulova Lunar Pilot which is operating at 8 times the oscillation of the Pagani. The Lunar Pilot is several times more expensive than the Pagani, and yet performs worse. And I can't blame Bulova, because the Lunar Pilot is in spec. It's just that that the Seiko movement that came in my Pagani is insane.
When you see what Pagani is offering for less than a Benjamin, it's easy to get angry at the entire watch industry. When Seiko doesn't put a sapphire crystal on anything under $500.00, you have to ask why. When a swiss watch company expects you to pay over $250.00 on a plastic watch with a shoddy movement because Omega printed their name on it, you have to ask why.
Pagani Design is not losing money. They are in fact rolling in it, while offering these watches at such low prices. This tells you simply just how much "traditional" watch makers are gouging you for. Even those who focus on "affordable" watches, like Seiko, Tissot, and Citizen, price their products way above what you get a Pagani design for.
Say what you will about them. They specialize in the "homage" market. But behind the "homage" is typically a surprisingly good watch at a hard to beat price point.
Word 👌🏽💪🏼
Beautifully explained. A smartphone with the most insane engineering and technology costs around 1000 to 1500 usd. A wristwatch that comes with archaic tech and engineering compared to smartphones costs more than twice or thrice.This pricing is not at all realistic.
If your UHF quartz Bulova is keeping worse time than a pagani, there is something wrong with it. My lunar pilot loses about 10 secs every 5 months.
@@CT99234 And that is what the Pagani is doing. The lunar pilot is completely in spec. The pagani is simply over achieving.
You can’t expect $25,000 watch quality from a $250 watch
No but I can expect basic levels of quality from a basic ass watch just like this one to me functioning correctly is a basic quality so is not falling apart right out of the box within 48 hours and like I said the permanent links not simply screws backing out but the permanent links fell apart
Seen you coming lol 250 you get these watches for 150 max 120 is enough to pay for there automatic watches with Seiko's movent NH35 or A version lol or any Seiko movement for that matter 🤪 rest are shite maybe go modify a watch yourself can get the movement to fit the case get a good stainless steel case ceramic bezel for 50 euros or less get a nice movement to suit your case and face right tools or the right watch fixer can put it all together your style your tastes your movement of choice your uniqueness 150 to sky's the limits as long as you have the cash 100% suits ones personality the colours design movement is unlimited you can buy a swiss movement as well as low end movements or just by a reliable San Martin and cut the bullshite 🤭🤣😂 some bollocks for reading my posts 🤪🤣😂 but thanks 🤭 Christmas beers merry Christmas cxxts have an enjoyable holidays . But my rant is right 😉
I expect £85,000 quality from a £85 watch, and so far I am not disappointed. Occasionally get £100,000 quality out of it.
These watches sell on special for US$50 LOL
Expectations - Lamborghini
Reality - Toyota
@@JasonX2hahah what watches do you own and what brands do you mean , build a watch sounds interesting but also like a bit lf work
I have a ton of their watches, and I have found some models are excellent, some are decent, and quite a few are cheap. I have had one DOA. I got all of my money back on the DOA. I got it fixed at a watch repair place for $35.00. They offer a huge range of models. I have had two DOA’s with SteelDive. One got the money back and replaced the NH35 movements. Never had any issues with Sugess, SM, Cronos, or any other brands.
Well Mr Al I appreciate all the input and yes I agree the sugess Kronos and San Martin are the safest bets
Did you know the movement NH35 is sold online for $35. Probably your watch repairer just replaced the whole movement. 🙋♂
@@52dislikes actually that one was a very simple fix. I watched him fix it. For other watches I have had the movement swapped as it was cheaper.
@@MrAl67how did you complain about your watch, I am happy with the watch, bracelet but the clasp is useless falls open all the time doesn't latch at all.
@@davidgarland2533 I bought from AliExpress, so I opened up a dispute. I had to shoot a video of the problem and provide the details.
I bought a Meibo cheap-as-shit submariner homage for $4.49 lol. From Temu. It works great! At quick glance, it looks like a Rolex. And I get just was much respect, and attention from the ladies as a real Rolex, which is zero! and I'm saving $30,000 ha!
Very nice!
I have over 15 Pagani Design watches all types from Divers like yours (I have three of them) Auto and Quartz - and never had a single issue with any of them so it does indeed look like its an Individual experience issue - might be where you get them from ?? maybe Amazon is getting them in cheap as they are Known items that are not passing the QC ?? - mine were purchased directly from China - arrive in a few weeks and are great...
Well flanker I'm glad that you have had excellent luck some of these were ordered off of AliExpress some off of Amazon but if you scroll down through the comments here on this video you'll see it is not just me like a lot of people have had issues but I'm glad that you have been very fortunate and are enjoying your watches
I have not had any issues with the two I own and will be purchasing another, because you get so much for your dollar and I own Invicta Automatic divers also and the Padani is my favorite of the two brands. 😊
I can't speak to the quality of their mechanical watches, but I have two of their quartz watches with Japanese movements and I am totally impressed by them. The quality of the finishing, alignments, printing etc., is excellent. No complaints here. In fact they exceed my expectations and I would buy more without hesitation.
I have heard the quartz stuff is better but they have blown it with me personally I am glad to hear you are happy with your purchases but if you think pagani's are good get a Sugess or San Martin night and day difference in quality
@@mr.eswatchreviews I hope so, 3-5 times the price.
In other news a Patek is better quality than an Omega.
Sugess seaman with nh35a went on sale you can get for around $175 $180 so that's nowhere near three to five times the price that's double and you get double the quality San Martin sn0117 with nh35a $117 on sale again nowhere near three to five times that's even less than double so I don't know maybe you need to go back and work on your math and since Pagani design doesn't even offer a true 28,800 beats per hour movement they can't even compete on that level of the three to five times level because all the ones that cost three to five times have a pt5000 or SW 200 so let's compare apples to apples here
@@mr.eswatchreviews you can't moan about the lack of 28,800 bph movement then talk about watches with an nh35a being better.
Okay nobody's saying 35a is better the point is anything with nh35a is comparable to what pagani sells so when comparing prices you need to compare watches with comparable movements the point you try to make was that San Martin's and suggess are three to five times the price and what I'm pointing out is that all the ones that are three to five times the price have a high beat movement so the bottom line is when you compare the Pagani watches to the better watches offered on aliexpress.com that come with an nh35a the very slight difference in price is well worth the extra quality you get
I absolutely love my Pagani (Air King homage). It is my daily farm watch. I beat the living hell out of it. I can't wear a real Rolex living in a third world country for theft concerns. I pitched the bracelet for a 5$ nato strap. LOVE IT
I'm glad that it is treating you well if you don't mind me asking which part of the world are you in exactly? what kind of farming do you do? It's the air king a automatic or quartz?
@@mr.eswatchreviews Costa Rica, we raise Saanen Goats, Heritage Turkeys and Brahma chickens =) The air king is based on the Seiko NH35A
Never knew london was a 3rd world country 😉😂🤣😁 joking as it's the world's capital of watch theft 🫢😉
I got DD40 and DJ41 homages from Pagani and my main complains are badly aligned dials/date wheels/cyclops, and sharp bracelets. No mechanical issues to date, though, but they all have TMI NH35 or NH36 movements. The alignment issues I tried to fix by myself but found it beyond my expertise to do a proper job, so they're staying misaligned. The bracelets are just like every other Chinese bracelet I've got: they need elbow grease, so I bought a cheap Aliexpress nail polisher tool to grind, sand, and polish them. For the money I paid, I'm not complaining.
I got rid of all my Pagani watches. I didn’t really have any problems but while the quality is decent for the price, they just lack the final finishing like a SanMartin.
@@goldfools5445 agreed 💯
Reading over reviews online, it seems like they have an issue with automatics. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that some issue with the watches not working properly might be do to shipping. I've never transported watches to a jewelry store before, but I doubt they toss it in the back of an Amazon truck and hope for the best.
This doesn't seem to be an issue with watches using Seiko internal parts. Which makes sense.
The wrist strap, I'm not surprised. All the attention went to the actual time piece itself. I can get a new strap at the mall. Not a deal breaker.
It seems to be hit or miss, with the biggest issue being the strap for the wrist, and the second most common issue being the automatic movement, which I think is a combination of quality and shipping.
That being said. Automatics, whether Swiss made or Chinese made, need to be serviced eventually. And I believe you also want to set the date with the watch at a certain time to avoid damaging the movement.
If you want an automatic only buy the pagani models with the nh35a movement, super solid and reliable
Yes unfortunately one of the ones in the video is one that has a nh35a
@@mr.eswatchreviews everyone knows pagani has less than ideal QC so it's hit and miss, I guess even a trustworthy movement can be compromised by the person who installed it.
Yeah honestly I did not have anything against Pagani design until it dawned to me that mathematically speaking it was a 75% failure rate as far as what I had received then I kept hearing all these stories from other people so if you get a good one it's a great deal if not it is what it is lol buyer beware is my best advise
Doesn't make sense. Why didn't you get a refund. Did you screw up the watches yourself? I have 3 pagani's and they all work. Great value.
I returned the Batman they sent a second one I had to use both of them in order to make one good watch as for the Kermit once I got that and I had a problem with it I just didn't feel dealing with it at the time is early in my collection I felt like I could just live with it at the time as for the Pepsi that was given to me buy a viewer but basically when you have multiple watches that have all had a problem and they keep wanting to send you another watch instead of refund the money and be perfectly honest the damn watches are so cheap the shipping is more than the watch is worth especially when dealing with AliExpress however the three I ordered were all through Amazon and trying to get the first one exchanged with such huge pain in the ass when the second one had a problem I just didn't feel like going through the same shit
I read the reviews on Amazon and people love their Pagani watches. Rolex are great, but $20K for the watch, then $1200 to service them every 5 to 10 years. Plus, many Rolex watches are dropping over $5K in value right now.
@JohnBowl14690 yes but Rolex is still 20% over original MSRP on the most popular stuff solid gold and two tone can be gotten for less than MSRP on the gray market yeah Amazon deletes bad reviews lol so take that with a grain of salt and it's your money do what you want but Sugess San Martin Cronos steeldive all are way better options for just a little more money
I own 7 Paganini watches. They've been perfect. 10/10 recommend
@@irewlwatts5443 glad you had good luck but I would also be willing to bet they are mostly quartz
To be honest, the new ones are a lot better. And remember to always buy the ones with he nh35 movements or the seiko quartz ones. But i prefer addiesdive/steeldives for the same money.
Yeah unfortunately all of these are like just at a year old or less and other than the gmts the others are supposed to have nh35 but as the Kermit behaves differently than the James Cameron I would say they have two different types of movements at any rate the numbers just don't support buying one when you get basically four out of five watches having some kind of major issue and I'm just one person the statistics suggest there are major flaws in the line it's either that or I'm just super unlucky lol
@@mr.eswatchreviews I think that you got really unlucky 🤣. I would be pissed off. I have used 7 pagani watches to mod them, and they all work fine.
Yeah it's not like I just jumped to this conclusion it just dawned on me recently I mean you can go back and look at several of my other videos I'm not that critical on the pagani's but after thinking about it it done to me that the stats are not good lol
@@mr.eswatchreviews I understand your point. I would be saying the same if that was my case 😂
I have the same one the guy donated to you. The Pepsi looking one. It done the same thing, mine was branded Haqin. It would run when it wanted. It would randomly stop. I took the movement apart and cleaned it. It had hair and dirt, look like it was built in a dusty strip club. I cleaned it up and put a bit of lube on it. It will run now. But it’s still terrible at timekeeping. About 2 minutes fast a day. It has the DG5833GMT movement which is known to be terrible. I’m thinking of trying to put a NH34A movement in it. If I can source parts and can get all 4 hands to regulate. Or I might just throw it away 😅
Yeah if you look on the channel I actually do a mod on this one I put an nh34a in a new dial in hands came out pretty good
I have the pagani 1664, it's a quartz movement and I got it on the rubber strap, it's been fantastic. From all the other reviews I watched it seems like majority of the issues are with the bracelet, or the non seiko movements.
So far I’ve got two Pegani’s, and I’ve had no issues at all. I plan to buy some more Pegani’s at a later stage.
You do get a lot of watch for the money.
I own 3 a regular 200m diver and a Batman and a Pepsi but I’ve bought mine right from Pagani store I think the amazon ones may be returns ??
I don’t know if buying direct helps but I have owned mine for several yrs and never had an issue maybe I just got lucky or not but yeah I don’t have any idea.
I do wish the bezel turned a bit harder as it does turn fairly easily but my regular diver does everything my steinhart does and I am not comparing Pagani to steinhart in anyway shape or form but buying from Pagani direct are better
I have several Pagani's and they all work fine.
Good for you now scroll down through these comments and see where at least half of the people have had s***results so consider yourself very lucky that you've gotten decent results
I look at judging a watch on the bracelet like judging an entire house on the carpet. It's just supposed to get you started but you're supposed to upgrade it later.
I mean that's fine but 2 these watches have issues with the movements and bezel play only one had issues with the bracelet
@@mr.eswatchreviews No doubt. My comment was more general towards bracelet issues than Pagani. I just got a 1692 and for $85 if it shits out then fuck it, I'll get a San Martin.
@@JustinGoldsmith exactly 💯
I don’t agree. I’ve never had a problem with any of my Pagani watches. All keep good time and the bracelets are solid.
Well Terry I will say that it seems like you were one of the very fortunate ones as you can just scroll through the comments down below and see how many other people other than myself are having issues I do however hope that they continue to work well for you so you can keep enjoying have a good day buddy
You actually dont want to buy the GMT movements only. The other watches have the seiko NH35 movement but the GMT Paganis have their own in house quesrionable movements.
The non gmt watches work just fine. I have one which is running for the last 4 years and going great
Lol😂 yes I owned 9 Paganis and sold all 8. I didn’t know the issues about them. I sold them and used the little money I received for a Hamilton Field Khaki. Only the Mission to Alaska chronograph I kept. 😂
lol
I have the same watch my problem was with the bracelet. It was a headache two different jewelry stores for the bracelet. When it was fixed the bracelet was still a pain. Finally put it on a Black NATO strap now it’s a great gym watch.
@@ernestclayboniii656 nice yeah their bracelets are pretty shity
@@mr.eswatchreviews No doubt!
Pagani watches are awesome I have several and not one has let me down, you must have all the bad luck sir.
I own one pagani design PD1661 and I find the bracelet on the edge of the clasp is quite sharp! I kinda get cut by the bracelet. Not so good.
@@JesusMySaviour1717 believe me I understand try a Sugess you'll be a lot happier and they're not that much more expensive
if bezel keeps moving, superglue it in place. Prevents yourself playing with it and it wont annoy others
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard I actually I've heard dumber instead I think I'll just buy the other brands on AliExpress that actually have good bezel action
For me, PD watches look good enough and perform well enough for the money, I don't expect them to be some over the top quality watch at this level of asking money. Maybe my expectations of this brand are just low and I accept them for what they are. They are not collector level watches, but they aren't Benyar or whatever level quality either. They are kinda utilitarian in my view and will be replaced eventually. If my band messes up, I'll replace it without a 2nd thought or I repair it with some thread locker, as for my experience of 5 or so in my own collection, they are holding up and working fine. The NH35a is not gonna be some high level smooth movement, if winding feels like crap in it, just replace the movement for dirt cheap yourself. If the watch gets replaced by Amazon and you got a replacement, then just be happy it got replaced and you didn't get stuck with a non-runner... but again, the movement is so cheap, one can just replace it and move on and not buy the brand again, keeping in mind with the higher end affordable brands, you'll still get (most likely) the same movement, but maybe they at least have a cleaner factory and less debris in the movements or something and finishing will probably more to ones expectations. Thanks for the video and your opinion. We all need both sides of the stories to be able to make educated purchases for ourselves.
I understand and what I'm saying is that the other affordable brands on AliExpress you get way more for your money steeldive Kronos San Martin and Sugess all offer way better quality watches for just a little bit more money the other companies also offer these with nh35a nh34A PT 5000 and sw200 movements and no I did not expect absolute perfection out of these watches when I first got them I thought they were pretty good however once I bought more and more watches from AliExpress to view on the channel it became blatantly obvious the deficiencies of Pagani design and if you look on my channel you will find the video where I modified the Pepsi and change the dial hands and movement unfortunately all those parts cost me as much as that watch brand new assembled but since you're going in there you might as well make it the way you want and for myself personally I will not be wasting any more time or money with Pagani design I already know for a fact I would much rather spend an extra 30 to $50 and get a watch that I don't have to do nothing to and will last even longer than the Pagani thank you for watching hopefully you subscribed I'm not here to bash anybody I'm just here to tell the truth and tell it like it is and just like I said in the video it just dawned on me one day that I had gotten four watches myself personally and the other one was from another viewer who bought it brand new and had issues immediately so for my personal experience 4 out of 5 watches being bad is not odds that I am willing to take I am glad that you have had good luck and I hope you continue to enjoy them
I have a Pagani PD-1728 white dial no issues , I hope you know some Pagani are automatic watches , but I just ordered a mini focus & the crown was broken so I feel your pain
I've only just heard of this brand of watches.
I'm willing to take the risk.
Before buying please go check out my other videos I would strongly suggest if you're looking for a Submariner homage there are multiple other brands that are just slightly more expensive but the quality is leaps and bounds better and if you want to save yourself a whole lot of headache the ginault ocean Rover 2 is hands down the best Submariner homage on the market however it comes with like an 1800.00 price tag but if you're trying to stay on the more affordable end I would suggest steeldive Cronos Sugess or San Martin and I have review videos of all of them on my channel
You must have some pretty freaky bad luck, man.
I've got nine PD watches and haven't even had one issue. And I've got watches from this sort of price all the way up to my 30th birthday Rolex.
No complaints here. 👍
I'm happy for you sir if you read the comments here you will see it's about 55% of people are having issue 45% are not so a higher than average out come for some type of quality control problem I find steeldive is a better option
@@mr.eswatchreviews It perhaps depends on the source too - I buy direct from the PD website.
Yes, I have a couple of Steeldives as well - solid watches. 👍
@mmd3610 it very well may be all of mine came through Amazon but they were all drop shipped by AliExpress
the automatic ones are a little questionable, but i have been very happy with their quartz models
Speaking from experience, have had 2 mecca quartz pieces and both have been fine
I have two ive got the gmt and the air king homage . Both i only bought because they were on sale ( £42 and £64 for gmt)and both had the NH 35/34 movements. I don't trust the chinese movements they have in some watches. Both have been very good. Only problem was bit of tight links on the airking but with some vigorous manipulation it's softened up and fine now.. And was a bit sharp so I used some wet and dry on the edges. The gmt has a jubilee style braclet that's been fine from the start. Both beautiful watches working correctly. I would buy another if on sale and with the Japanese NH35 movements. Good value for what you get.. but there is room for improvement with the finish. I have invictas I would say Pagani is slightly better quality overall.
My pagani watch (rolex explorer homage) stops every 2nd day. I wear it all day on hand and go out a lot, but the mechanism just doesn't hold. I need to re-wind it once in 2 days, like it's not an automatic but a manual. I opened the back case and everything look good from inside, everything moved. Seems that the mechanism just stops when it wants...
Yep that's exactly what the Pepsi GMT is doing it will just stopped randomly whenever
@@mr.eswatchreviewswas that gmt a NH34 or the pearl movement? I have a San martin world timer with a Seiko NH34 that stops too. Just wondering if there was a NH34 design problem - although unlikely since it's just a nh35 movement with one additional complication, but you never know.
@@MrScrunchee the one I removed was a cheap Chinese movement I think it was a dangdong movement i put in the nh34a
I got my PAGANI Batman GMT today. I got it knowing what I’m getting into, no expectations. I own a few Heimdallr, SteelDive, Phoibos, and I love each and everyone. This watch looks good, and has good specs. The bracelet is definitely junk, I had to be very careful adjusting it because some of the screws would not budge. The bezel has very minimal back play and side to side play. Rotation is very loose, in comparison. Time keeping accuracy remains to be seen, but thus far it is on time. If it dies on me I’ll use it for parts and practice. But, in the end I would not recommend it. If you’re on a budget, get yourself a G-Shock, or maybe a SteelDive, or a Heimdallr. Sugess’ are on the pricier side of the spectrum but also a good choice.
Agreed 💯💯💯
So on the Pepsi GMT that you saw in the video there that Philo sent me I ordered a nh34a movement new dial in hands they should be here any day now
I bought an Invicta divers and it's perfect apart from the sharpness on the bezel edge. The issue with this watch is the poor-quality assembly.
@@glennt1962 agreed
They are great watches and perfect value for the money. Love my pagani seamaster homage. Yes the straps are crap but you can just buy a replacement.
OMG I was gonna sell my Seiko SNK809 next week to buy one of these Pagani Design Watches. ( Model PD- 1736) Now decided to keep the Seiko ! Thanks
Good choice
I ordered a Pagani on a whim from Ali, but hated the watch when I got it. The bracelet was too shiny, it looked really cheap, like a watch you win at a fair or in an arcade hall. Also I have no clue how to size the bracelet, the holes are incredibly small and I don't have the tools to set it right. So I decided to return it, but the shop where I bought it denied it was ordered at their shop and refused to let me send it back. That was bummer number one. On top of that I then saw I paid almost double the cheapest price for it, other shops had the same watch at a much cheaper price. So not only I paid way too much for a watch that looks like a piece of trash, I wasn't even able to return it. Or wear it (if I wanted to). Last time for me, I will just stick to San Martin watches.
Good choice
I have 4 Paganis and have had no problems with any of them. My bezel action is decent on all of them. I don’t dive and strictly use my watch to tell time. If I need to time something I use my phone. If the bezel lines up and the action is crappy, I flat out don’t care! The only time I’ve ever rotated any of my bezels was when I first got the watch.
Well I'm glad that you're okay with mediocre quality control as long as you're happy with the watch man that's all that really matters I was just pointing out that statistically a 75% failure rate to one individual is not acceptable much less across the board
I love my pagani gmt batman, the only time its off my wrist is to change the date, I've had it five years and its always been a good timekeeper, it does gain a little bit over a month, but i can live with that considering what i paid for it
Out of the four on the table that one was my favorite and I never had a problem with that one running it had bracelet issues
I have 11 of their watches and only have one problem with one which is like you said the crown comes out. It doesn’t pop. I just deal with it in a way that you would deal with $125 quality watch so my point is they’re nice watches for the price long as you take care of them.
@@chrissullivan268 and my point is for just a little bit more money you don't have to deal with none of this b*******you just get a good watch Sugess cronos San Martin Steeldive All kick the s*** out of Pagani in the quality department they are a little more expensive but they are worth it
Agree, Mr. E. I bought a PD-1758 GMT from AliExpress and the watch was dead right out of the box. Wouldn’t run after winding the piece of junk over 50x. Sent it right back. I think I’ll go for a Seiko GMT.
Look at San Martin and cronos Sugess is also a great option
You have been extremely unlucky! I have 3 different models and all of them are absolutely amazing for the money. One came with slightly sharp edges on the bracelet that I had to fix with a little piece of sandpaper but other than that they are really nice. Submariner Hulk homage with nh35 for 70$ is stupid good and I love it as much as my 600$ seiko solar chrono diver... Maybe it's QC issue but I just got very lucky with all of mine.
I am very happy to hear that you've been blessed with properly working pagani's and after reading through all of the comments it seems like you got a 50-50 shot one way or the other lol 🤣🤣🤣
The guy at the time might be right but I have 3 and for the money excellent. Looks good everything lines up and a good Seiko movement.
Well I'm happy that you've had a good experience but as I explained my position is not going to change as none of these were bought together they were all bought individually but if you really like these check out San Martin and cronos yes they cost a little bit more but you can get the same Seiko movements or even better ones like the PT 5000 or SW 200 in a little bit higher price tag a lot more quality on paper they look similar but if you have them both in your hands the other two brands blow Pagani away
the watch case is stainless steel?
Yes
Mine is a 38 mm day date homage and it has lasted me 3 years so far looks brand new
I would expect the CCP to say good things lmao about crap made in China
@@mr.eswatchreviews read my name a little closer bud
I got a Pagani PD-1662 red and blue and it worked for a while and now the stem does not do anything-cannot set the time or even screw it back in. I got a Seiko NH34 watch movement to replace the junky movement that came with it. Looking for a video where someone does that!! I agree with you-they are just junk!!
I'm not saying it's the best video but I actually have a video on my channel where I swapping nh34a in the Pepsi pagani
You must have bad luck I have 4 soon to be 5 pagani’s and all are just about flawless only problem was my sub homage which ran a tad fast but regulated it and works perfectly fine. You got to get the nh34 movement gmt ones the pd movements are bad
I am now on my 10th Pagani. Never had a dud. All working within or better than specs. My Seamaster 300 homage runs at +1 s/d. Your mileage may vary and yes, Pagani wtches have issues, mostly the atrocious lume and sometimes the lack of AR coating, but you can't fault them for the money you have paid for. Frankly, I rather wear my PD-1701 Speedy homage than my original Speedy. The crystal is better, the bezel is better and the mechaquartz keeps time better than the Omega movement. Even the bracelet is acceptable and if you want a different one, at 20mm lug width the world is your oyster. My worst Pagani, the Explorer II homage still runs at 10 s/d.
If only they would have better lume...
Whats 10sd mean
@@davidgrant3648 10 seconds per day, unfortunately, the Pearl movement in the Explorer II is a bit temperamental and fluctuates between -10 and +10 seconds per day.
@@davidgrant3648 10 seconds per day
I bought pagani BB panda for 26$ on sale as a gift to my second cousin he’s turning 20, please explain why I shouldn’t do it and what should I get instead for same budget?
For $26 I don't really have any suggestions I can make a lot of great suggestions for around $200 to $300 but basically you will find here in the comments you have the Pagani lovers and the haters like me it's genuinely about 50/50 on whether or not the watch will be any good or last any kind of time
I own about 20 PD’s……no issues except the last two recently bought on Amazon……two turds in a row…both returned and good ones sent out to replace.
It is “ luck of the draw” with PD and Amazon.
Agreed 💯
I think PD is worth the price, especially if you got them from aliexpress, each piece cost about $50-$70.
this leans me more towards seestern, thanks for the upload. i had heard they have QC issues with finishing, not so much the movements, too.
Glad I could help!
You should have choosen the nh34 movement on that, those watches gmt has seiko nh34 movement options now, i love my paganis actually, all of them are seiko nh35
@@oliviersebastian1516 at the time of purchase the NH 34A did not exist and all the rest of them did have an nh35a
I have four of their watches, 3 automatics with nh35 and one quartz. They work perfectly fine but I found that it’s really a hit or miss with the bracelets, if you’re lucky it will be ok but most of the time it’s crap, some of the screws don’t even screw out and it’s very low quality. But for the price it’s worth it just don’t expect quality.
There's a newer model out that has been upgraded with the Seiko NH34 movement. I think these might be better. But they cost twice as much as the older model with the Chinese movement.
I think you are right about that I personally will not risk it any more there are other brands that do a much better job
Not a fan of their Dive watches. However, I do like their Paul Newman Daytona Chronograph with the Seiko mecaquartz. I have one, and really enjoy it. It's not perfect, but should be reliable. I wouldn't swim with them either.
Nice and I agree 💯
My Pagani came out perfect to a T for under $50! almost feel like a $300+ watch along with my Seikos and Citizens.
Glad you are happy with it
I own four Rolex's and a Pagani 1644 Daytona Hamoge. The Pagani works well no problem. The 1644 is my everyday watch. Not bad for $89.00. O! I aslso have eight Invictas in my collection also. I got mine the 1644 from Amazon. So!!
The Pagani Daytona homage is a quartz movement their issue is with the mechanical movements not sure what the point of you owning four rolexes is but congratulations I guess I like the Invicta pro diver I'm not much on any other watches
i haven't own a pagani yet but i will someday, i recommend model PD1707 and PD1761 a homage model of an audemars and a tissot PRX
My pagani is very good no issues. But havingooked at many reviews I think there is a variable quality on some. My TAG aquaracer is great, so far, but it cannot watch the quality of my real tag thsts 40x more expensive
I have a Pagani ($89) just like the 5th watch in your video... runs great. My bezel doesn't move as much either. Sorry yours were a bad experience.
Thanks for watching Maurice
Sounds like you need a slightly longer stem on the Kermit subby, I had a problem with one of my watches and stem just a hair longer fixed the problem. Now having said that, the GMT I ordered from them came with no plastic on it missing the spring bar tool missing the polishing cloth and was covered with scratches and it was supposed to be new.
I have the original GMT And SUB from the other brand, but as walking the streets in France is becoming dangerous with expensive watches I bought 6 pagani on Ali express.. and maybe I got really lucky but beside going forward 2 minutes every 24h I have no issues so far.
Yes I have had 2 links on 2 watches that needed some wd40
2 minutes per day is a terrible running watch and they shouldn't require lube so not sure I would consider that lucky go back to AliExpress get a Sugess, San Martin, or Cronos all three brands are way better by leaps and bounds
I have five pagani watches two gmt three sub, no issues at all. I always swap out the bracelets for 904L all brushed glide-lock clasp style. I did recently get burned on a Steeldive that arrived DOA, the crown would not unscrew and the movement was dead. I opened a complaint with PayPal and I don’t expect I will get a refund.
Well I'm glad you've been having luck with the paganis just so you know they just have 904 stickers on them I've bought those same bracelets they are definitely not-904 they are 316 I deal with a guy who gets the replicas from clean and vsf and even those are not 904 like they claim in the way I definitely know this is not 904 steel is three times the cost of 316 so there's no way you're getting a 904 bracelet for less than $100 it would be more like 2 to 300
Update on my DOA Steeldive. PayPal got the Steeldive store to agree to a full refund, but I have to mail the watch to a distribution center in Germany, I live in the USA. The watch I received from Steeldive came from a USA distribution center. So for me to ship the watch to Germany will cost too much. I figured that Steeldive would do this, it's a typical play when buying from Aliexpress, and has happened to my in the past. Aliexpress says they guarantee your purchase, but this is not true. I will just have to eat the cost and have a back-up Steeldive for parts ... case, bracelet, links, crystal, hands, dial. When dealing with Aliexpress it's a total crap shoot, sometimes you win, and sometime you crap out!
@@mr.eswatchreviews 904L vs 316L they are both $15, and actually 316L works better for me, I can easily use a scotch-brite to redo the brushing on the bracelet and clasp when they get scuffed.
@@johnnycarm9588 agreed 💯 the vast majority of my experiences have been positive even when I have had to do returns but I have had one or two instances where it did not work out correctly
I bought the pagani Daytona and it’s was very disappointing quality. Then I bought the pagani 1662 gmt master and it was really impressive. I’m leaving the verdict open for a while.
My experience with Pagani is good for the moment, but good.
I have a pagani pd 163, best watch Iv'e ver bought?, maybe you just have bad luck
maybe but I am not alone in my misfortune
I've purchased 4 Paganis from Aliexpress 3 are now broken. There quality control and customer service is shocking. I am a obsessed collector and reviewer. Avoid and for a few more pounds purchase a San Martin or a steeldive.
Agreed 💯
There quality control is terrible. It's kind of a lottery really. If you get one that works as it should, you have a watch that would cost several hundred $$$/£££, if made by Seiko, Citizen, Tag Heuer etc. They have great quality control, but it's reflected in a much steeper the price of the watch.
I had the same problem with one of their bracelets. The day after I received it 2 of the screws fell out.
Also had similar problems with the movement acting erratically.
The brand is ok if you check over the watch with a screwdriver and tighten everything up. And only stick to their quartz range.
Yeah I've heard that the quartz watches are better from Pagani
I unscrew all screws of any new bracelet and refit them with locktight. Started doing this after I bought a Miltat Rollball, which is a quality bracelet, that had three screws come loose. I did not expect that from a €100+ bracelet but it didn't do any damage and I did not lose the watch.
It takes about ten to fifteen minutes but at least I know I'll not get any of those nasty surprises anymore.
I was weighing up between pagani or san martin. Decided to go with san martin and am quite impressed with the quality
Smart move definitely worth the extra money 💰
San Martin are mid tier finishing and QC, way way above their price point. They'll give some lower end Swiss brands a good run. But they are still just clomages, fakes with different badges on.
And how would you classify Pagani design other than a clomage company except for they make s***** ones and a lot of quartz crap I mean we get it dude you are on Pagani designs nuts it's okay it's fine lol we all get it. This like your fourth comment trying to defend them so sorry the truth hurts 🤕 but why waste or even take a chance with 80 to $100 that you can put towards the suggess seaman the NH 35a driven San Martin sn0117 look you are entitled to your opinions just like we are entitled to ours
I got 4 pagani and they all 4 are working well 2 of them were bought in 2019 and they are still running pretty well. Even more acurate than my Skeiko alpinist...
Maybe you didn't biught them at the right place..
I'm glad that you had a good luck these were purchased off of Amazon at least the ones I bought the one from Philo I don't know where he got it from but it was bad or the box
I love all of my Pagani watches. I work on all my watches so minor issues with and watches I have I fix myself
That's great however not everyone can or is mechanically inclined enough to do so
Pagani Design is my favorite watch brand, although I'm mostly into their mechaquartz chronographs. Sorry you had a bad experience with them.
It is what it is but I honestly check out steeldive chronos in San Martin they are all much better watches
Is the watch company the same as the car company (pagani)? I am a bit confused on that end
No had nothing to do with the car company
@@mr.eswatchreviews I see
I've got two quartz ones which are ok and two mechanical ones, both with faulty crowns.
I am starting to see a trend here
I have a watch by them and so far I haven’t had any problems with it so far
Just got mine yesterday. 80 bucks on alix... super disappointed. I sized it, wound it, set it, and put it on. 2 hours later, it's 10 minutes slow. I set it again, wound it 50 times, and put it on before bed.... this morning when I woke up, at 6 am, the watch said 1145pm and the date wheel was mid change. It's already on a return box.
Yeah unfortunately that's par for the course sorry to hear that happened that is why I put this video out 😔
I've 3 of them and I cannot fault them
Oh good for you I'm sincerely happy for you
This guy must be smoking the good stuff.
I've got the best
I completely agree - but I do like the look of the watch for the price. If you can talk them into sending you a new movement and you can put it in. You can wind up with a nice watch. I've ordered two day/dates and one just stopped for no reason at all. Dead. The other one works great. I asked to return the watch but they said I had to take it to a local repair shop. Would not refund me and would not let me return. I was past my return window so I just hounded Pagani on messages until the said they would just mail me a new movement. I have all the gear to swap it so I said that would work. They use a ETA 2834-2 movement if anyone wants to buy one to repair a day/date.
That's awesome information Philip thank you
@@mr.eswatchreviews/
Finally someone that’s honest about the brand and says the facts as they are
I try my best
Many Pagani Design reviews and some people find them to be really good and some find these watches to be excellent or just ok. I am glad to watch this review- presentation because as you are highlighting there are not just QC problems in fact it is clear that is a serous QC f….. up problem these Pagani Design shit brand..
Let’s allow the many who loves them buy them all. !!
Agreed 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🤣
They are indeed very good watches.
Well you are totally entitled to your opinion but math says they are not 4 out of 5 watches with major quality control issues for those who are lucky enough to get one that's decent enough to actually work great for them however when purchasing you have about a 50-50 chance of getting something decent or shit
Unless your budget is really really bone dry, I wouldn't get a pagani design. Speaking from experience, I have a pagani design, cronos, and a sugess. Both are more than twice the price as pagani but well worth it
Agreed 💯💯💯💯💯
I love them because I buy them for cheap and many of them have little problems, which are solvable or you can live with them. And after I receive them I get a partial refund (50%). So I basically get the watches for 20-40€
yakın zamanda sipariş vereceğim. %50 geri ödemeyi nasıl alıyorsunuz ?
Imagine you meet a Person with a real Rolex, he laughs at you 😂
@@Kristian89 I mean that hasn't been my experience whatsoever and even if somebody did do that that just means they're a huge douchebag and by the way yes I do own a real Rolex but beyond all this Pagani does make shity watches it is their quality control more than anything but there's at least half a dozen companies that make washers that look very similar to Rolex and in most cases they're watches are equally as good in what area is the lack a little bit the amount of money you save you can buy 30 of them for the price of one Rolex
If the guy laughs at you for wanting to wear a watch you can't afford.
Then that guy is a total tool and not worth your time.
@@mrpollopizza facts
I sold all my authentic luxury watches spanning from Rolex to Grand Seikos for homages. 😂 I made money from them already not that it was goal in the first place. I just like watches in general from cheap Casios to very expensive timepieces. Once people get taste of luxury, you eventually get sick of them. Also I can wear these homages anytime and if I get robbed, I’d be happy to give my $100 Pagani Design watch than my $10,000 Rolex watch. Although I only kept one of my luxury watches, my Tag Heuer F1 in quartz. Gotta have a quartz in the collection and it has sentimental value because it was my very first entry level “luxury” timepiece. I couldn’t be happier now that I got rid of my luxury timepieces plus I bought insurance for them just in case they get stolen or some other mishap. I sleep better at night now. 😂
Awesome I definitely understand and agree with pretty much all your points
Me and my son have Pagani Design quartz beaters (1718 and 1701). Both have had issues with their bracelets but otherwise they are super.
Yeah there seems to be a running thing here that the courts ones mechanically speaking you seem to perform better it's just in my experience with all the different brands of watches that I have bought I have had the most issues out of Pagani and considering they're one of the watches that I bought the least amount of to have the most issues out of them is kind of a major statistical issue
I own a Pagani quartz 1701 and a Seiko automatic 1706. Both work fabulously. Maybe its the model or just plain bad luck but I personally am very happy with the brand.
I'm very happy that you're satisfied I personally however will not be spending any more money with Pagani
You just started off wrong by saying "You don't want to buy a Pagani. That's the facts, that's the way it is."
The fact, the way it is, is I DO want to buy a Pagani. A couple, actually.
I mean if you like throwing your money away then go for it I would recommend you get a slightly better brand like sugess or San Martin but you do what you like I'm just letting you know they wasted my money and at this point in time I don't own any of these watches anymore I've given them all away
@@mr.eswatchreviews Even if I don't like throwing my money away (which I don't). I've had a Pagani for a couple of years and it's been great. Many watch reviewers here recommend Paganis in general.
But thanks for the recommendation.
@@luisalejandroacuna9879 and a lot of the watch reviewers are also being paid to which I am not I'm just here to put out the honest facts and if you read through the comments you'll see it's about roughly 50/50 maybe 60/40 on people's results with these watches is there quality control is just garbage sometimes you get good ones and sometimes you don't and unfortunately in this situation for me mathematically 4 out of 5 watches being broken or having something substantial wrong with them I mean that is just complete s*** odds I mean maybe I'm just that unlucky but I would have to say no
“It runs when it wants to” I know the feeling
Go ahead and get the watch you wanna get dont listen to people telling you what what and what happened cause their experience wont be like yours. These watches come with a warranty that you can use once you have issues if any.
I mean it is what it is man if people want to buy them it's not like I'm going to be mad at them for it I'm just letting everybody know what my experience was and as far as the warranty they'll want you to pay for the shipping back if you're getting it through AliExpress and unfortunately the shipping cost as much as the watch did
Good advice. Kind of surprising to hear .
Glad it was helpful!