Alas , it is indirectly about the novel " Safe Houses " , not the physical location used in intelligence work . The novel is not discussed in depth , other than primarily set in 1979 , and has character(s) who were female CIA employees .
@@JCResDoc94 Not it isn't. The name of the book is _Safe Houses_ , and excellent title for a spy novel. The title of the video opens: "CIA Safe Houses...", an excellent title for the factual discussion of CIA safe houses.
I you had listened to the introduction, he wrote the book "Safe houses". The premise of his book was a woman who ran safe houses in 1970's Berlin. So the relevance is real woman in the CIA. Pay attention.
@@kdlofty I wasn't being a smart ass. I was pointing out that if you had read the intro and listened to the introduction you would know that the subject was a fictional novel titled "Safe Houses", about a woman in the CIA, so the idea was to talk with women who had actually been in the CIA. It should have taken about 1 minute to ascertain the point of the video. So when the question is asked "What the hell does this have to do with safe houses?", I have to assume that the questioner didn't read or listen to what was being presented. That is was I was pointing to in seriousness, not being a "smart ass"
@@ronobrien5726 Sure - but then again it's like calling it "Boeing 747", just to have a conversation on what it's like being a female pilot. I would consider the title "Safe Spouses" much more appropriate...
@@ronobrien5726 I guess the real issue is ISM's tendentious choice of the title. People are accustomed with this channel's tendency to have their titles honestly reflect the _likely_ topic in the discussion. "CIA Safe Houses..." is not only not the title of his book, it would be an impossible title for any fictional spy novel. It's a perfect opening phrase in the title for a talk about... CIA safe houses.
Chris Costa announced that this lecture is moderated by Dan Fesperman. Dan wrote a book titled "Safe Houses." The title of the TH-cam is Safe Houses. Nobody mentions Safe Houses in the lecture. However, it was not a waste of time to watch this. I've lived in Safe Houses. I find it humorous that Francine mentions keeping lipstick in her iodine pocket. In an emergency, do you want lipstick or iodine? You will look lovely, wearing your lipstick, but you will be dead. Francine also mentions the lack of female role models in C.I.A. Administration. The problem with employers, bosses, teachers, parents and husbands is that they tend to infantilize women. They may very well want to protect us from harm, but they can not always do that. That would be why you would take training from Jack. You have to be prepared to fight. Francine is not intelligent enough to understand Jack's comment, "Because I would not give my men a job I was not prepared to do myself." Jack meant he was training the women himself to show them that he did that work himself, and would not ask them to do something he had not done. When he said "my men", he meant the women trainees. I was assuming that only very practical women would sign up for C.I.A. spy-craft, because it is work usually assigned to men. It is dangerous, difficult, requires advanced physical training, and usually at least some math and physics skills. It's not work women usually do. Except that they do. We do it every day as wives and mothers. What do you think all that chatting at ladies tea parties is about? Running a house and caring for a family requires all these skills. What more important task could a woman do? Raising children is very dangerous. Children do dangerous things all the time. They have not learned good impulse control yet. They climb trees. They climb out windows. Try walking the floor with a screaming baby all night. You need great physical stamina to do that. Women do this kind of labor all the time. I think Francine has spy potential, but she seems obsessed with how she looks, so she should be working in retail. She also looks like she is trying to get everyone to look at her legs, which is distracting and very annoying. Perhaps prostitution is a good place for Francine. I did not see many women putting lipstick on in Safe Houses.
duh...whatever your opinion, Francine actually worked in CIA. Back in the day, I was OFTEN told I couldnt do things because "women dont do that." Grew up in a neighborhood with 15 boys and me the only girl for like 9 years. It made me tough. I knew my physical limitations and my capabilities and I learned to stand up and out perform my male peers. It is possible to overcome!
I might be a bit thick, but if someone looks like a woman (nice legs!), dresses like woman, behaves like woman, has husbands and kids, uses lipstick and worries about her hairdo during camp trainings... it must be a woman then.. Someone took you for a secretary? Good! Deception is your asset, miss CIA, be happy you got one extra Could it be a bit more about the subject next time, please 😑
I always think that the best woman spy is often the one who is frequently overlooked and seemingly unimportant, blending well into background and drawing no attention to herself. Spy hunters notice men more than women.
This presentation was not good. I didn't learn anything about safe houses. I'm not buying any of your books. Meandering on like this is already a fail.
Plus was in Maine Atlanta Brunswick they have orange hair now blonde since July and colored people attacked me with computer they are using my body help me. I am no life Dea but this Tom and netherland
I was waiting for safe houses story and instead got whiny ungrateful women “ is see no one like me” ie female as a mentor or previous, to paraphrase. I wouldn’t buy their books. A bunch of whiners
Every time my kids have a hard time falling asleep, I play Chris’s 2 minutes intro .
It always does the job ! 💤
I was hoping to hear something about managing safe houses, but the video is mainly about these two women's experiences at the CIA.
Im not sure how the title of this video correlates in any wsy to the subjects discussed.
it is the name of the book
Alas , it is indirectly about the novel " Safe Houses " , not the physical location used in intelligence work .
The novel is not discussed in depth , other than primarily set in 1979 , and has character(s) who were female CIA employees .
@@JCResDoc94
Not it isn't. The name of the book is _Safe Houses_ , and excellent title for a spy novel.
The title of the video opens: "CIA Safe Houses...", an excellent title for the factual discussion of CIA safe houses.
WHAT HAPPENED TO SAFE HOUSES? THIS TITLE IS MISLEADING.
It's the only video that I've found on the search engine, and it still not talking about the real safe house... strange.
The only safe thing about this safe house video is that it’s not about safe houses. 😑
What the hell has this got to do with Safe houses?
I you had listened to the introduction, he wrote the book "Safe houses". The premise of his book was a woman who ran safe houses in 1970's Berlin. So the relevance is real woman in the CIA. Pay attention.
@@ronobrien5726 Read the rest of the comments smart arse. Clearly this had nothing to do with safe houses.
@@kdlofty I wasn't being a smart ass. I was pointing out that if you had read the intro and listened to the introduction you would know that the subject was a fictional novel titled "Safe Houses", about a woman in the CIA, so the idea was to talk with women who had actually been in the CIA. It should have taken about 1 minute to ascertain the point of the video. So when the question is asked "What the hell does this have to do with safe houses?", I have to assume that the questioner didn't read or listen to what was being presented. That is was I was pointing to in seriousness, not being a "smart ass"
@@ronobrien5726 Sure - but then again it's like calling it "Boeing 747", just to have a conversation on what it's like being a female pilot.
I would consider the title "Safe Spouses" much more appropriate...
@@ronobrien5726
I guess the real issue is ISM's tendentious choice of the title. People are accustomed with this channel's tendency to have their titles honestly reflect the _likely_ topic in the discussion.
"CIA Safe Houses..." is not only not the title of his book, it would be an impossible title for any fictional spy novel. It's a perfect opening phrase in the title for a talk about... CIA safe houses.
Very disappointed, I clicked on the link expecting to learn about the use of and details of safe houses. Not on the plight of women in the cia.
I too thought that this was going to be about safe houses-how to- BUT I watched the whole thing and found to discussion on writing to be of use......
Got to the 20min. mark and read the comments,nothing about 'safe houses' not what it says on the 'box'
Now, do the CIA safe houses of 1963. I'll wait.
Chris Costa announced that this lecture is moderated by Dan Fesperman. Dan wrote a book titled "Safe Houses." The title of the TH-cam is Safe Houses. Nobody mentions Safe Houses in the lecture. However, it was not a waste of time to watch this. I've lived in Safe Houses. I find it humorous that Francine mentions keeping lipstick in her iodine pocket. In an emergency, do you want lipstick or iodine? You will look lovely, wearing your lipstick, but you will be dead. Francine also mentions the lack of female role models in C.I.A. Administration. The problem with employers, bosses, teachers, parents and husbands is that they tend to infantilize women. They may very well want to protect us from harm, but they can not always do that. That would be why you would take training from Jack. You have to be prepared to fight. Francine is not intelligent enough to understand Jack's comment, "Because I would not give my men a job I was not prepared to do myself." Jack meant he was training the women himself to show them that he did that work himself, and would not ask them to do something he had not done. When he said "my men", he meant the women trainees. I was assuming that only very practical women would sign up for C.I.A. spy-craft, because it is work usually assigned to men. It is dangerous, difficult, requires advanced physical training, and usually at least some math and physics skills. It's not work women usually do. Except that they do. We do it every day as wives and mothers. What do you think all that chatting at ladies tea parties is about? Running a house and caring for a family requires all these skills. What more important task could a woman do? Raising children is very dangerous. Children do dangerous things all the time. They have not learned good impulse control yet. They climb trees. They climb out windows. Try walking the floor with a screaming baby all night. You need great physical stamina to do that. Women do this kind of labor all the time. I think Francine has spy potential, but she seems obsessed with how she looks, so she should be working in retail. She also looks like she is trying to get everyone to look at her legs, which is distracting and very annoying. Perhaps prostitution is a good place for Francine. I did not see many women putting lipstick on in Safe Houses.
I am looking Francine's nails that look like high maintenance. I doubt she could type fast with long nails.
duh...whatever your opinion, Francine actually worked in CIA. Back in the day, I was OFTEN told I couldnt do things because "women dont do that." Grew up in a neighborhood with 15 boys and me the only girl for like 9 years. It made me tough. I knew my physical limitations and my capabilities and I learned to stand up and out perform my male peers. It is possible to overcome!
I thought this was about safe houses. Waste of my time.
For real... and the lady in the dress is whispering... the heck?
Nothing to do with safe houses, unfortunately...
I might be a bit thick, but if someone looks like a woman (nice legs!), dresses like woman, behaves like woman, has husbands and kids, uses lipstick and worries about her hairdo during camp trainings... it must be a woman then..
Someone took you for a secretary? Good! Deception is your asset, miss CIA, be happy you got one extra
Could it be a bit more about the subject next time, please 😑
I always think that the best woman spy is often the one who is frequently overlooked and seemingly unimportant, blending well into background and drawing no attention to herself. Spy hunters notice men more than women.
Wtf? Degrees from Georgetown and stanford but shes a victim good lord
Safe houses? Oh I get it it’s a metaphor lol
I incorrectly thought this talk was about safe houses...what a disappointment...Boring
Don't waste your time. 20TH episode about gender equality in the CIA. Worthy subject but we have heard the same story plenty of times now.
Click bait. Nothing about Safe Houses
Notice the male host, disparaging himself, pathetic
Ok, safe houses. Got it. Only comment is that her dress is too short.
What about the hosts clothes ? Any comments?
Agree, And her hair is too long for her age, seriously 🤣
This presentation was not good. I didn't learn anything about safe houses. I'm not buying any of your books. Meandering on like this is already a fail.
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Great Video
Over half the talk was about women's rights in the work place not safe houses. Please stick to the title
Title has NOTHING to do with the actual content.
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So the woman were the only "safe houses" at the agency? everyone else was dangerous... lol ... ?
Insightful
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Came for Safe Houses - got female gender politics. Nice deception work!
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Plus was in Maine Atlanta Brunswick they have orange hair now blonde since July and colored people attacked me with computer they are using my body help me. I am no life Dea but this Tom and netherland
I was waiting for safe houses story and instead got whiny ungrateful women “ is see no one like me” ie female as a mentor or previous, to paraphrase. I wouldn’t buy their books. A bunch of whiners
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